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May 17, 2019 - David Icke
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David Icke Interviewed At The New York Premiere Of Renegade
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So, let's get started.
pleased to have a very special guest today, David Icke.
Wonderful to have you.
Yeah, nice beer. So you've just had the premiere of your film.
Was it the New York premiere, not exactly the world premiere?
No, the New York premiere. It was the third group of people that have seen it.
It should have been the fourth, but of course we had some interesting experiences in Los Angeles when they banned the premiere at two hours notice.
And it's a movie called Renegade, which is about my life, but it's not just about my life.
I really wouldn't have been that bothered if it was just about my life.
It's also about the information I'm putting out.
So the idea is that people who might not read a book initially or come to a four-hour talk initially might watch a movie for an hour and 40 minutes.
The idea is to introduce new people to the information.
Because my experience is, when people see this other explanation of world events, it makes more sense to them than the official narrative, shall we say, that are awash with extraordinary levels of mendacity.
Yeah, and I thought it was an excellent introduction to you, to your work, and some of the bigger concepts that you talk about.
I mean, obviously, you've been doing this for decades.
You started out on the BBC, well, initially as a professional footballer, right?
Yeah, I was born on what we call in Britain a council estate, which basically you rented your house from the council, the local authority.
I always wanted to be a footballer.
Well, not always, but from a very early age I wanted to be a footballer.
And I never contemplated anything else.
And people were saying, well, very few people become footballers.
What are you going to do if you don't become a footballer?
And I said, I'm going to be a footballer.
And an extraordinary series of, quote, coincidences led me along this process of experience and bits of luck that led me to be a footballer.
Then my career ended with rheumatoid arthritis at 21, and I went into journalism, and I worked on newspapers, I worked on radio, I became a national television presenter with the BBC. For a time I was a national spokesman for the British Green Party until I realised that It may have a different name, but it's the same political program.
And then my life went through an extraordinary, esoteric explosion.
And I started on this path, and I've been doing it ever since.
And the film goes into good detail as to how that mind explosion, as you called it, Occurred so it's interesting to hear this background because you really do you've been an insider in news in government and this is really something that I know you're not a fan of President Trump not going to get into a conversation about that but his presidency has more than any other exposed this nexus of media government corporations how they all come together to basically fool everyone hasn't it a little bit well it has but you know this This cabal that I say are behind world events and behind the here-today-gone-tomorrow politicians One of their enormous skills, in fact their foundation skill, is the understanding of human psychology.
So they can manipulate a situation whereby the public appear to see one thing when something else is going on.
You know, yes, Trump talks about fake news and all that, but he's also introduced into his administration Absolute decade-after-decade psychopaths like John Bolton, his National Security Advisor.
Absolute swamp monster.
Oh, God, yes.
And, you know, I'm not sure that Steve Mnuchin from Goldman Sachs is draining the swamp when you make him Treasury Secretary.
And absolutely not Elliot Abrahams, who has a horrific record in Central America Under Reagan, under Boy Bush, and you appoint him to oversee the democratization of Venezuela.
Utter chaos. Utter chaos, because it's a coup.
I don't speak as a supporter of the current regime in Venezuela, but it's an obvious coup, and obviously it's been going on lately.
Year after year after year as they target regimes in the Middle East and what have you.
I believe CNN even reported yesterday that it was some sort of coup that failed and it was sort of misreporting or something.
Oh yeah, and CNN and misreporting in the same sentence, I can't believe that that would ever be possible.
You know, I remember, you know, Ryan, when I first came to America, a long time ago now, as a, you know, I'd been a journalist in Britain and, you know, television, radio, newspapers, and I turned on Fox News, and I thought it was a joke.
I thought it was a parody.
Wow. It was so biased!
And now, I come to America and if I want a dose of bias, I turn on CNN and MSNBC. Almost entirety of the American media has become an opinion-based Agenda-based operation, that has nothing to do with journalism, where you slant what you bravely call news to fit the particular political stance of the station.
And it's just extraordinary.
I think, you know, a lot of people might disagree with this, but I do think one of the last Lights of anything like credible journalism actually comes through Tucker Carlson on Fox News.
He's a guy who will ask questions.
He will question, why do we need to regime change in this country and that country?
And he asks some very, very pertinent questions about the Political correctness takeover of human society.
So what I tend to do in the morning, I get up quite early, is I'll look at the Carlson show on YouTube when I get up in the morning and there's some very good items he has on there.
I don't agree with everything he says, but what I like is he's asking questions that others won't ask.
But isn't he also indirectly controlled?
I mean, he's obviously paid millions of dollars to appear on the news.
When he did reporting on the Las Vegas shooting, Fox News told him, knock it off, and all they have to do is cut off those checks.
Yeah, because you'll remember, because of course, I've gathered you've got an interest in this Las Vegas shooting, that Tucker Carlson was the only person really that I saw on American television who actually took the narrative on and said, well, hold on a minute. In fact, I remember he went out to Las Vegas and they did shows from there.
And, you know, it's interesting when I watch Carlson is because I see More and more, because when you watch him, you get to know the nuances.
He knows he's pushing it right, and he's just trying to stay this side of it.
But you know what's going on in his head is further across that line than he's actually going.
Well, he was there in Vegas reporting on a helicopter landing in a parking lot.
They had obtained some security footage and it was like he touched the third rail.
They shut down that reporting.
The city of Las Vegas denied him access to reporting on anything and that was the end of it.
We never heard any more of it.
Yeah, that's the way it works.
And so, you know, it's kind of funny when, you know, you're talking about Conspiracy.
And what I've been warning about for 30 years is that the end of free speech is coming unless people stand up and defend it.
And journalists have said to me over the years, well, no one ever tells me what to write.
And you think, well, of course they don't.
Because you never write anything outside the narrative.
So no one's going to say you can't write that, because they want you to write what you're writing.
And I said to some of these people, you try writing outside the narrative.
You try reporting outside the narrative of whatever event it is, and then you see if someone will have a word with you.
And of course... Real journalists who have pushed back, I've met over the years, from time to time, who have pushed back on the narrative, well, you know, they find themselves out of a job pretty quickly.
There's a lot of ways that they can silence people.
You've been doing this longer than almost anyone else.
You've experienced ridicule.
And now, with the advent of the Internet, social engineering seems to be a big part of what goes on.
So they can target journalists, particularly independent journalists, We've got demonetization, we've got all the insults, and every single way a person can be stopped.
Well, what's happening, and I do have to smile myself from time to time, is that people tell you that what you're saying is not true, and often the people that tell you it's not true then prove you're right.
So, oh, we're not having conspiracy theories.
Oh, really? Well, you mean the one that you're now confirming is true?
And what I mean by that is, you know, one of the things I've said over the years is that if you go deeper into the structure, the rabbit hole of Facebook and Google and Google and YouTube through its alphabet company, and you go deeper into Twitter and Amazon...
Jeff Bezos. One of the things I've been pointing out is that the big names like the t-shirt kid who talks about values when he doesn't have any, Zuckerberg, They're not the ones running those companies.
They're the ones fronting those companies.
And ultimately, the same hidden hand is controlling all of them.
And this has been the process, and we're now seeing it so clearly.
First of all, the internet was created or made possible by military technology through an organization called DARPA, Technological Development Arm of the Pentagon, which seed funds many things that are Kind of general technology, or they're just new inventions, yeah, but the reason they're seed-funded by this military operation is because they have military surveillance control applications.
Same with IQT and QTEL, the seed-funding technology arm of the CIA. So DARPA, that gives us things like death rays and And technology that can target specific genotypes.
I mean, they are lovely people, DARPA. They really are.
And they openly boast that they created the Internet.
They made the Internet possible. So, obviously, the Internet is not what it...
It's been sold as, saying there's not good things about the internet, but the ulterior reason for it is not good for humanity.
And the idea was to create a situation where the internet eventually became the central pillar of human society, and to a point where it was irreversible.
And at the same time, they are backing these companies early on, And if you look at the history of companies like Amazon and many of these others, year after year after year after year, they lost vast amounts of money.
But somehow, someone's shelling out the necessary.
And when you are developing a presence on the net or in terms of Amazon completely dominating book circulation, And you have an unlimited budget, what chance has anyone got to compete with you when they don't have a limitless budget?
So this is all being done systematically to the point where, A, the internet becomes the irreversibly dominant pillar of human society, which it has now.
And two, these companies, seed funded, become the near monopolies in their area of operation.
Social media, search engines, retail and books in terms of Amazon.
And once that point of monopoly has been reached, once that point of internet Domination of human society has been reached, then what has gone before, which is the free flow of information, which had to happen or people wouldn't have got into the internet and people wouldn't have got involved in these companies, once that point has been passed, and of course it's been passed now, then they start creating the internet that was planned to be all along.
Because if you can transfer the circulation of information from traditional media, Even television, newspapers, to a digital environment through the internet, then through the digital technology, you can then start using AI algorithms to dictate what people can and cannot see.
And in America, you have this First Amendment.
To protect freedom of speech, but only from the government, not from private corporations.
So they've circumvented the First Amendment by putting the control of communication of information into the hands of private corporations, which in the end are controlled by the same people.
And now we're seeing, I mean, only yesterday as we speak, that we've had this outrageous next step In terms of Alex Jones and Louis Farrakhan and others, who have not only been banned from Facebook, but people are banned from posting anything positive about them.
They can post negative things about them, but they can't post positive things and they can't post links to things that they've done.
This is George Orwell's 1984.
This is creating non-people.
It's really unprecedented.
Unprecedented. We've got deplatforming, depersoning.
I mean... What can these people do?
Is there any hope for humanity that this is...
Well, what we need is pushback.
You know, the mainstream media...
Because when you look at what's happened to Johnson...
You know, this is not about Alex Johnson.
I agree with much that Alex Johnson has said over the years.
I disagree with much Alex Johnson has said over the years.
But... It's not about Alex Jones.
It's not about Julian Assange.
It's about the principle of freedom and the principle of freedom of expression.
Because if anybody does not have the right to free speech, then no one has it, because there is no free speech.
All that's left is conforming within the parameters of Dictated acceptability, which is masqueraded as freedom of speech.
It's not freedom of speech at all.
Freedom of speech is to open your mouth and say what you think.
And so we have this situation now, which is not only unprecedented in terms of the scale of an obvious blatancy of outrageous fascistic censorship, But you have also the ability to observe the mainstream media's response to it and it's basically been cheering them on.
Yeah, well it's a major part of it of course.
Assange has just had a hearing in London and basically his lawyers are fighting back against what appears to be a move to have him extradited to the United States.
What do you think about this phenomenon with WikiLeaks and how Julian Assange has been imprisoned?
Well, you can't divorce any of it from everything else.
What we have is a global war, particularly in the West, although I said particularly in the West, you look at China and other places, it's happening in there big time as well, of course it is.
But I mean, from our perspective, in the West you've had this war on freedom of speech, and it's for a simple reason.
The goal of this whole cabal, again as I've been saying for decades, is to create a situation where they so control information that only what they want people to see and hear does anyone see and hear.
This is what this progression is moving towards.
And so, when you think that human perception, and from perception comes action and reaction, human perception comes from information received.
So this is the process, you control information received, you're dictating perception because they've not heard anything else.
And then you have a situation where from perception comes behaviour and comes reaction.
So you control the whole sequence of human perception and human behaviour by controlling information.
It's essentially mind control.
It's total mind control.
What is perception manipulation except perception programming?
That's what it is. And so you look at these kids now, Just take the global warming situation, which I say is a hoax, and I've been saying it for a long time, and I said this is what they're going to suggest as the solution to the manufactured problem, and that's exactly what they're suggesting now, transforming global society into a centralized dictatorship to save the world.
But you look at these kids now.
They've been through school and they get completely programmed that the world's in danger of ending through climate change caused by human activity and the demonization of a gas, carbon dioxide, without which we'd all be dead.
I mean, it's just almost pathetic to behold.
But it's all those kids have ever heard.
And the demonization and suppression of alternatives to the narrative mean that they will never have heard of them.
And if they do hear a little bit, well, the people's talking are demonized, so you don't listen to them.
Climate deniers. All that stuff, yes.
What's happened is we've got whole generations of kids who have been programmed to believe in something that's not actually happening.
That's a classic example of perceptional programming.
You've now had the streets of London shut down in the last few weeks by this group called Extinction Rebellion and it's all based on believing the climate change hoax narrative and demanding that governments do what I said that they would demand that they did ages ago, and that is to centralize power to save the world.
It's all a hoax, but it's a classic example of perceptual programming.
So what we're seeing with the deletion Or freedom of expression is the focusing of information to program the perceptions of the population.
Eliminations of alternate perspectives, alternate explanations.
Yeah, because it's had such an effect up to this point in getting people to see the world in a different way.
And just last week, NBC News was caught using a stock photo image of a baby that they added with Photoshop measles to the baby as part of this international push to convince people that measles is back, it's a huge problem, it's the fault of this anti-vax community.
That's another thing I perceive that they want to do through the news, through the government, through the World Health Organization to create this binary argument where you're either Pro-vaccine or you're crazy.
Don't ask what's in the vaccines.
Don't ask about this particular vaccine.
We can't have any scientific evaluation of these things.
This is a major problem, isn't it?
Yeah, and the Photoshop of the baby with the measles wasn't even well done, was it?
I mean, you know. Oh, they'll believe anything.
Just put another dot there. There you go.
But people don't know for the most part.
You've been the tip of the spear on this.
The biggest resistance to seeing the conspiracy is people's inability to perceive that anyone would actually do that.
And I said, don't judge what this cabal will do by what you will do, because you're not coming from the same space.
Now, we talked about the fascistic nature of information and free speech suppression, but what more What definition of fascism can you have than the state telling you what you will put in your own body and what will be put in your children's body?
And of course, this whole vaccination phenomenon means that Horrendous shite can be put into children on an increasingly vast scale, more and more added all the time.
And increasingly mandatory.
Mandatory, yeah. Basically, this is how it works.
If you do what the state says, you have choice.
You have choice.
You have choice on vaccines.
Oh, we wouldn't impose vaccines, no, you have choice.
But you're doing what we want anyway, so yeah, you have choice.
Now if people start saying, actually...
You know, this alternative media and this stuff.
Well, we've actually looked at this vaccine stuff and maybe it's not so good.
Ah, you're now not taking the choice to do what we want you to do.
Therefore, we bring in the mandatory.
This is what they plan for microchips.
Microchips? Well, if people want to be microchips, they're going to be microchips.
It's just a choice. And then you make it more and more difficult, like with credit cards, To operate without them, and then you make a mandatory.
That's the process. They're so predictable, these people, if you actually study them and how they work.
So the very fact...
That they want to push mandatory vaccinations and they are demonizing those that are pushing back against vaccinations means that there's something very, very important about vaccinations that they want to impose.
And one of those things is the effect on DNA. I mean, you can manipulate DNA, you can mutate DNA, you can change the nature of the human form by the stuff they're putting into the body, and you can basically devastate at a very, very early age in a child while the immune system is still developing, you can devastate the immune system for life.
One of the good things about me being just turned 67, born in 1952, is that people of that age have a radar.
They have a radar of Experiencing what it was like before this really...
I mean, there was madness then, but I mean really extreme madness and in positions that we've got now.
And when I grew up in the 50s, measles was just part of childhood.
Yeah, it's like the flu.
It wasn't like, oh, it's got measles!
It was like, oh, he's got measles.
That was it. You get over it.
And what these childhood diseases did was kick in the immune system And the immune system read the code of the disease and you had immunity for life.
Whereas vaccines don't give you that, absolutely.
What do you need a booster for if they give you immunity for?
I mean, come on, I mean, it's in your face.
And so they've now turned this, what in my childhood was, ah, got measles, ah, got chicken butts.
To us kids, it was quite good because you got off school if you got the measles.
You'll have to go to school today.
Oh, good. How long is it going to last?
A week? Oh, even better.
And now it's, you're all going to die!
And this is all calculated to demonize people.
I love this thing.
My big boy over there, strapping Jamie and his brother, Gareth, were not vaccinated.
They never had chocolate diseases, whereas...
The kids who were vaccinated or went to school with, they got them.
Right. And this is a question.
Vaccines work.
Okay, so why is it that people who are vaccinated do get these diseases and people who are not vaccinated don't get them?
Oh, well that's herd immunity.
That's another scam.
Because they were faced with a rather blatant contradiction That people who were vaccinated were getting the disease they were vaccinated for.
And people not vaccinated weren't getting them.
So they had to explain that because it's such an obvious contradiction.
And they came up with herd immunity.
Right. And that means, well, virtually everybody has to be vaccinated or it doesn't work.
So you're telling me it doesn't work then?
I mean, if you're vaccinated, then you're dealing with a relationship between your immune system And the disease.
It doesn't go via other people, herd immunity.
You've got a relationship between your immune system and the disease.
So if you're getting it when you've been vaccinated, well, the vaccines don't work, do they?
But this is the kind of This is the kind of exchange and discourse that they don't want people to hear, because people go, that's right, isn't it?
So you have to silence it.
This is the point, and it's so easy to see.
People say to you, so what is the agenda?
What are the points of this agenda you're talking about?
Answer, so simple.
Look at everything you cannot have an alternative opinion about.
Either because you are directly censored or the tidal wave of abuse that follows.
If you can't have a different opinion about it, it's the agenda.
Very simple. Very simple to see.
And this is why. If debating what the agenda wants Would demolish what the agenda wants.
Then you're not going to have a debate, are you?
This is why they want to delete freedom of speech.
So where they can't win the debate, they shut down the debate.
So there is no debate and only one side is ever heard.
Look at it. Transgenderism and this explosion.
I've got nothing against people who are transgender.
Good luck to them. You know, none of my business.
But I'd push it on everyone else and push it on kids.
So there are thousands of percent increases in England and Wales alone of kids who are saying, well, I think I'm another gender.
Well, where did that come from? It's come from programming.
It's come from all the explosion of stuff.
And you want to push back on that?
If you're a parent who wants to push back on that, social services turn up.
Take your child away.
You look at human-caused global warming.
You can't have an open debate about that.
And all these other aspects of society that are increasingly shut down in terms of debate.
Why do you shut down a debate?
Because you can't win it, so you don't have it.
That's why it's happening.
One of the major points of Renegade, the David Icke life story that you just premiered in New York, was that over time, your reception by the general public has really warmed quite a bit compared to the ridicule, the open ridicule.
What do you attribute that to?
Do you think people's minds are opening to this stuff now?
Well, two things. Yes, that's true.
More and more people are opening their minds, but you know, I said years ago, You know, in the days when, you know, it's a load of rubbish.
I said, the time's gonna come when what I'm revealing, which is happening under the radar with an ulterior motive of where he wants to go, there's gonna come a time When that has to break the surface.
Because you can't manipulate under the radar forever if you want to transform human society.
There has to come a point where human society starts to transform in the world of the scene.
And of course, what's happening is that that is happening.
And people are observing this.
These changes, the kind of things that are going on with free speech, for instance, and mandatory vaccinations and all this stuff, and they're going, well, hold on a minute, what's happening?
And that very question opens people up to alternative explanations for what's happening, because there doesn't seem any rhyme or reason to it.
Under the official narratives of why it's happening.
So this combination is awakening people in very large numbers now to the point at least where they're saying, What's going on?
I don't feel good about this.
What's happening? So they become open to alternative explanations for what's happening, and if those explanations have validity and credibility and make sense, then people start saying, as they are in increasingly large numbers, hold on a minute, this is making sense of the world to me.
And that's why another reason we've had this incredible increase in suppression of information, because they've seen the effect The information has had on people's perceptions of the world and they are desperate to shut it down.
Yeah, and just after you and I initially met at Anarcopulco in Mexico, you were entirely banned from entering the country of Australia, simply for sharing these ideas.
Days later. Shooting up mosques in New Zealand, they're from Australia, they're not banned.
You're banned for sharing these ideas.
Well, yeah, and you know, it's obviously becoming more and more challenging to find ways to communicate this information.
Which is, in one way, it's showing that your information has validity.
I mean, why would they shut it down otherwise?
Yeah, I was given a visa to go and speak in Australia on a speaking tour, literally days after Acapulco.
And we were in a hotel in Los Angeles at the airport, LAX, four hours from the plane leaving.
We're sitting in a bar just waiting to get on the bus to the airport.
And Jamie got an email from the Australian Immigration Minister, called David Coleman, saying that the visa's been revoked.
Now, his department gave me that visa in September, then there was no problem.
And in this... In this declaration of why he was revoking the visa, he went through a long list, ironically, of why I should have the visa.
Like, I've been there 10 times since 1997, and in this thing, he says, there's never been a problem, and, you know, no reason, all that stuff.
And then there's a little bit at the end where he goes, but you're not coming anyway, basically.
And again, you're proved right because you're talking about Australia not being an open and free society.
You're talking about a tiny few people running and making the decisions over 25 million Australians.
People say, oh no, that's not true.
And then they prove you're right because in effect, when you break it down, I won't go into detail now, but when you break it down, one person has decided that I can't speak in Australia and decided what 25 million Australians can and cannot cannot hear and choose to hear and again ironically this week Me and Jamie were sitting in the same or staying in the same hotel at Los Angeles Airport and we got in the car with the producer of Renegade and headed to a theatre called the Aero Theatre in Santa Monica for a meet at four o'clock with the people that ran it to go through the technical Check of the showing the premiere in Los Angeles of Renegade.
This is two hours now before people start turning up and because you know the vastness of LA and it's horrendous traffic people will already have left many of them and we got a call we just got a call in the back of the car five minutes from the venue five to four ish and It's hard to imagine a more clear demonstration of this hidden hand actually pushing buttons.
Now, David, I know your schedule is very tight, so we've got to wrap it up.
But I just want to say one thing about the show.
Don't start me, I never stop talking.
I have to be stopped.
That's what they're trying to do.
The sinister thing about this interaction, most sinister thing, was the producer was asked if the film, the premiere, was about me.
And he said, well, yeah. And this is the question.
Does it put him in a good light?
That was the question.
And the producer said, well, yeah, it comes across fine.
It comes across good. And he said, well, we're not having it.
Now, if that film was demonizing me, that premiere would have gone ahead.
And we've reached this point.
Let's just kind of just analyze this very sobering point.
In the global center of movies, which I know you've had a great deal of experience with, Los Angeles, a movie is banned by a theater group because of who it's about.
And you look at all the movies that have gone out about horrendous things and often horrendous people, and it's not a problem.
But this is the scale, this is the level that we have now reached of censorship.
And because I operate on the coalface of it, by pushing against the narratives, I can see how far it's gone when people that basically live their lives within the narrative will not see, because they don't get the pushback, whereas people challenging the narrative do.
So you see how far it's actually gone.
And if you analyse that Does it put David Icke in a good light question?
And then you transfer that to what's just happened to Alex Jones and Farrakhan and others.
It's basically that you cannot now post anything positive about these people.
But if you want to post something negative to demonize them, then that's fine.
Push that to the front. So we are way into 1984 now.
And I would say this, to finish this point, How this works is this.
Imagine a path to an end goal and there's a series of gates on that path.
These are things they have to break through to get to that goal.
So they push the first gate and it will be maybe a kind of a milder level of censorship for instance.
And they're waiting to see the resistance.
And if they don't get pushed back, they walk through that gate and then they're on to the next gate and they push that.
And so what we're seeing is that each quote symbolic gate, the censorship or the imposition like mandatory vaccinations gets more and more extreme.
And so we need desperately public pushback.
For instance, expressed outrage about what's happened, what Facebook have done.
And let's let Facebook have some consequences, because while there are no consequences, they'll go on making the censorship more and more extreme.
Well, it's really like a child testing its boundaries or any animal.
Exactly. Talking of a child, of course, it's run by Zuckerberg.
Well, officially. And what they've done, you see, they've put this, hey, man, t-shirt, hey, I'm one of you, man.
I'm a multi-billionaire, but I'm a t-shirt.
I'm one of you, right? And so they put this guy up front to front it up.
Right. Because it's cool, man.
T-shirt, look. When real psychopaths are actually running these companies.
Yeah. I think Jamie's about to tackle me.
So just in closing, I wanted to say...
I wanted to say, you know, you brought up a point in Mexico that just hit me like a sledgehammer.
You were talking about how dogs and certain animals don't perceive color in the way that humans do and how the visible spectrum of light is such a small sliver of the electromagnetic spectrum and that if there were a rainbow and a dog were looking at it, he wouldn't see it. Does that mean it's not there?
And the analogy of how we as humans have such a narrow spectrum of perception, there are so many things in our world that are here, but we just lack the senses to perceive.
It's real simple.
What we perceive as reality is what we decode as reality.
And what frequencies we operate on, because everything's operating on frequencies, dictates what we decode and what we don't decode.
So just because, you know, we're looking out into this room, if I said to most people, when you look out into this room, can you see everything in the space you're looking at?
They'd say, well, yeah, of course you can.
You're seeing this tiny band of frequency, almost like, you could symbolize it as a TV channel.
When you're watching NBC, you're watching a channel, a band, a frequency, if you like.
And all the other channels exist in the same environment, but you're not tuned to them, so you only see one.
And then you tune to another channel, you see another one, and NBC's now disappeared, but only to your vision.
It still exists and can be seen by other people.
So this This understanding that what we perceive as reality is the tiny band of frequency and when you think you look at the night sky and you see that explosion of lights and when you look at that night sky you're talking about a tiny fraction of one galaxy within what is now projected to be a universe of trillions of galaxies.
So That is just on that level you see the vastness of possibility and other life and what have you.
But then imagine that that vastness is only what you can see within this tiny band of frequency.
What about the rest of infinity beyond that band that we are decoding called the five sense world?
Visual reality.
And so the idea for instance that humanity It's the only form of life as we perceive it.
It's beyond the border of insanity, really.
It's just crazy. It's certainly beyond the realm of mathematical probability.
Yeah, and if you want to isolate people, And to draw their focus in so they perceive a tiny, tiny range of possibility, which I call the postage stamp, then you don't want people perceiving the vastness of everything.
Because that opens your mind.
That process of seeing the vastness opens your mind with the perception of the vastness.
They want people here.
And when you're here, you can laugh in the face of people who say there is infinite life elsewhere.
And that brings us back to the power of perceptional programming which is basically the power of the conspiracy because that's what it's absolutely founded on.
We need to take our minds back.
We need to take our perceptions back and start coming to our own conclusions and not taking off the peg, off the shelf, the conclusions of the state and the authorities.
Because if we do, We are going to continue to be led down this very dark and very dangerous road to a state of control that would even make Orwell wince.
Absolutely. And with that, David, I want to thank you for joining me today.
It's been a pleasure speaking with you.
People should know that your book, Everything You Need to Know, is available now in bookstores.
Everything you need to know, but I've never been told.
And starting in June, people will be able to download the new movie, Renegade, the life story of David Icke.
Where can they find the movie?
They'll find it on the details on DavidIcke.com.
It's out on June the 4th.
Not only will we get the movie, they'll get about two hours of extras that didn't get in the movie.
And it's not just about my life.
It's about my life and work.
It's the work part.
And by the way, I've just finished another book, which will be out in September.
And there'll be pre-orders in early August.
And the pre-orders are very, very important.
I'll tell people that.
Because this book is going to be so controversial.
I mean, the cabal will have to take to their beds to...
Come to terms with the fact that someone's actually written and published it.
And so what happens when it becomes known what's in it, I don't know.
So people pre-ordering is very important so they'll get it before that point that the system knows what's in it.
But it's a very, very controversial book that just blows the thing apart and names the names who are doing it.
Excellent. I think people can look forward to that.
Thank you again, David. It's called The Trigger.
The Trigger? The Trigger.
Perhaps we'll have an opportunity to speak again once the book is aired.
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