April 12, 2019 - David Icke
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| 🎵 People say I talk about some weird stuff, some far out | |
| stuff. | |
| But how about that chair that you're sitting in isn't solid? | |
| How weird is that? | |
| This reality is nothing like we think it is. | |
| When I saw what Ike is doing, I was a bit jealous of him. | |
| I was like, wow, look at what this guy is doing. | |
| I don't know if anybody else could do it but him, actually. | |
| We are in a period now where speaking your truth is not just important, it's utterly crucial to where humanity goes from here. | |
| The world needs renegades, and it needs them now. | |
| So what is your take on the latest developments surrounding Julian Assange and his arrest? | |
| Well, it was the most predictable thing you can imagine. | |
| It's just been a matter of time and wearing away the new president of Ecuador until he agreed. | |
| Basically, this was a done deal from the time that Moreno, the present president, replaced Rafael Correa, who, of course, gave asylum to Julian Assange. | |
| And it's just been a process of wearing away and wearing away. | |
| And clearly, from what we saw and what came to light last November, when a federal prosecutor by accident in another case revealed the fact that there was an indictment, a sealed indictment, prepared and waiting for Assange. | |
| And what we've seen, as we see all the time, is the coordination Between apparently independent countries, what a joke that is, in this case the United States and Britain, to bring about a long planned end. | |
| And it's an extraordinarily symbolic moment because it is the confirmation that we live in a tyranny. | |
| You know when you live in tyrannies when those that do the crimes get off scot-free and those that reveal the crimes get prosecuted. | |
| And we're seeing this again and again and again, and this is a very, very, of course, globally high-profile case, which is confirming that. | |
| And they want to make an example of him because they want to say to anyone else, thinking of exposing the way that WikiLeaks has, this is what happens to you if you take us on. | |
| So it's not just about Assange, it's about a warning to anyone who would take on the | |
| establishment, which of course is what we must do if we want freedom to survive. | |
| Right. | |
| Well, actually, there were numerous other media statements, media outlets that published | |
| some of the leaked correspondence that Wikileaks also published. | |
| Why do you think it is that Former, for instance, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was so against and so vengeful toward Assange. | |
| Some of the things that were published by WikiLeaks were not only published on WikiLeaks. | |
| No. Before I come to Hillary Clinton, and I could talk for hours about her, I've been exposing the Clintons in my book since the mid-1990s. | |
| You know, the phrase, you couldn't make it up, really does apply to them. | |
| But I was reading an article today in the New York Times by a lady called Michelle Goldberg. | |
| The headline is, is Assange's arrest a threat to the free press? | |
| Well, clearly, we don't have a free press. | |
| The press is a propaganda arm of the establishment, overwhelmingly. | |
| But what she's saying is, it's basically okay, and he deserves his fate. | |
| So long as he's only prosecuted for hacking offenses and not for publishing the information. | |
| Because, of course, if they go down that road eventually, and they're trying to avoid it in the public arena at the moment, that, as you rightly point out, opens up the wider press that also publish the same things. | |
| And, you know, the reaction of the media in America, particularly, has been utterly disgusting to this arrest. | |
| I mean, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas. | |
| They are supporting something and saying, you know, it's okay as long as it don't affect us. | |
| Well, actually, this is the step-by-step, tick, tick, tick, what I call the totalitarian tiptoe to the erosion of all media freedom, including theirs. | |
| In terms of Hillary Clinton, well, of course, she's extraordinarily miffed because some of the things that WikiLeaks revealed during the election campaign against Trump... | |
| Very, very much affected, I'm sure, a lot of people voting for her. | |
| This is, again, we come back to the same subject, the same theme. | |
| When you do something, if not illegal, then despicable, and that's what WikiLeaks' revelations made clear. | |
| That you manipulate your fellow Democratic presidential candidate, in this case Bernie Sanders, to make sure that they can't win. | |
| You manipulate through the party engine that he can't win. | |
| Well, that is your choice to do that. | |
| But instead of taking responsibility for doing that, when it's revealed, the villain becomes not the person who's done it, but that which has revealed you doing it. | |
| And so she is obviously miffed. | |
| Massively, because she had the feeling, she felt she had a right to be President of the United States. | |
| And anyone who got in the way, in this case, Assange and WikiLeaks, in any way, shape or form, obviously is going to be a target of a wrath. | |
| And she's looking for, and has been since the election, for any excuse for why she didn't win. | |
| The reason she didn't win is great chunks and streams of the American public can't stand her. | |
| Right. | |
| So now... The UK has officially arrested Julian Assange because of him skipping bail. | |
| What is your thought on the real reason or is that the real reason for him being arrested? | |
| Shortly afterward of course we did find out that there was also a move perhaps by the Swedish government and the plaintiffs in that case that was brought against him for sexual misconduct to renew that case and of course we found out that there is a An extradition order from the US. So what are your thoughts on how this all happened? | |
| I've been writing books for nearly 30 years about the fact that the people that appear to be running the world are not really running it. | |
| And actually there's a web that operates through All countries, basically, basically all countries, which are pulling the strings of the world. | |
| And particularly, you can identify this in the West. | |
| So to understand a situation like this is to understand that in the shadows, the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Sweden, At that deep government level, actually dictated to and controlled by the same basic web. | |
| And this is why they move as one unit. | |
| So obviously someone's pushed a number of buttons here, whereby you have the arrest by the British government. | |
| You have the extradition demand by the United States government. | |
| Suddenly, the Swedish authorities are coming in through their legal system saying, well, maybe we want to get involved in this as well. | |
| So, for instance, if the United Kingdom, under pressure from some political sides anyway and personalities, would not be able to extradite him, then maybe they can do it via Sweden. | |
| And then you've got Australia, who of course have reacted in a very nonchalant, couldn't care less basically kind of way. | |
| And this is how it works. | |
| They're all moving as one unit. | |
| And the reason is they are totally unforgiving of anyone or any organization that reveals the truth about them. | |
| Because of what they're doing is so disgustingly unspeakable, then they have to have secrecy to survive. | |
| So anyone that threatens that secrecy and threatens to reveal what's really going on, which of course WikiLeaks did via not least the videos involving the invasion of Iraq and what happened in Afghanistan, they have to be punished because they can't be allowed to A, do it themselves, or B, give confidence to anyone else to start doing it. | |
| So this is what it's about. It's about destroying him. | |
| You know, I've been tracking these people in the shadows for 30 years. | |
| They have no forgiveness. | |
| They are ruthless people, and they're now being ruthless about him. | |
| I mean, I've just been banned, by the way, from speaking in Australia four hours before my plane left. | |
| So I know that Australia is absolutely not a free society, and they're going to do him no favors whatsoever. | |
| But the one good thing today has been that Jeremy Corbyn, the opposition Labour leader in Britain, has come out and said he must not be extradited to the United States. | |
| and you know it this does have the potential the situation with the | |
| solid uh... negative is it is in so many ways | |
| to actually be a focus over tension for people to | |
| actually see uh... the fact that this world's uh... freedom and freedom | |
| of expression freedom of communication freedom of opinion | |
| he's being systematically deleted | |
| and so they could be some good things come out of this from that point of view | |
| as well as i actually ask you about what what your thoughts were about corbin | |
| statement prior to that though there is a very quick reaction by one | |
| of the mp's uh... unfortunately i do not remember her name | |
| uh... but she uh... got up and spoke about to the fact that uh... julia san | |
| should not be in on any circumstances extradited | |
| And I must say that she had reckoned with a very quick denouncement from the Speaker of the House. | |
| I just saw a bit of this on BBC yesterday, but just saying pretty much that she has no business even meddling in this. | |
| And I'm just wondering, do you think that we're going to see more support for not extraditing Assange on the request of the United States? | |
| Yes, I think so. | |
| I think we will. | |
| And especially when it starts to dawn on people, what a massive symbol of freedom deletion that this is. | |
| John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, is a classic member of the political class. | |
| And I think you might have been talking about an MP called Diana Abbott. | |
| I saw that she was coming out against it. | |
| Today. But what you've had, you see, if you recall from yesterday, is that when Assange was taken from the Ecuadorian embassy, was immediately taken to court to be basically charged with and dealt with at the first stage of the legal process by a judge over skipping bail. | |
| Now, that judge should just have administrated the case, and then everyone goes away and comes back on another day. | |
| Instead of that, this judge made a personal attack on Julian Assange. | |
| At the start of a legal process, it was breathtaking. | |
| And what it does, of course, is show you the bias that he's going to face now in the legal system and in the legal process. | |
| And what it requires is a very large number of voices coming out in defense of freedom. | |
| You know, whether it's Julian Assange or anyone else is not really the point of The situation is the point. | |
| The deletion of freedom is the point. | |
| And therefore, it's not about defending even Julian Assange, who is the personality in this case. | |
| It's defending basic freedom and human rights. | |
| Well, as you mentioned briefly, Australia acted very indifferently to his arrest. | |
| Actually, this was no surprise because they haven't really gotten involved in his situation over these past seven years. | |
| So... I would expect pretty much from Australia going forward. | |
| But what do you think is going to happen to Assange now? | |
| What are the possible scenarios for the further development of his situation? | |
| If we start off from what they want to happen, and what they want to happen is extradition to the United States, where the United States probably has other charges to add to the ones that it's currently claiming. | |
| Failing that, they might try to get into Sweden, because Sweden will just probably do the same. | |
| The chances here now, because it's all out in the public arena, for those in politics who still, and it's very few, Have any idea that freedom is disappearing and that we should defend it. | |
| And for the public in general to give the government a problem because if the government thinks it's going to get away with this without any consequences at the ballot box or in public opinion, it will do it because it's desperate to do it because in the end, if you look at this network that I'm talking about of this web where they all work as one unit, On one level, the real power in that web is, at a deeper level, it's somewhere else. | |
| But at the level we're talking about, it's in the United States. | |
| And what they say goes. | |
| And if it doesn't go, then there's going to be a problem for whoever's denying it. | |
| So the British government will push this. | |
| But it's whether they can get away with it because, you know, they only have the power that we give them. | |
| And if we give them hard enough time, especially on the basis of your abuse of basic freedoms, then maybe this can be headed off. | |
| But what do they want? | |
| They want in America for a long time. | |
| You know, this is not really about what he knows. | |
| This is about the precedent set. | |
| of revealing enormous numbers of documents that were devastating for the credibility of the United States government and the United States military. | |
| And this is worth pointing out, actually. | |
| And it again shows you what a An excuse for journalism that we have in places like the United States and further afield, that despite what WikiLeaks revealed, despite those videos of civilians being shot from helicopter gunships just for no other reason than let's do it, who has faced consequences for that? | |
| Nobody faced consequences for that at all. | |
| The person who reveals it, or the organization that revealed it, led by Assange, he's now getting the consequences. | |
| In fact, it's seven years of consequences. | |
| He's basically imprisoned for seven years in the Ecuadorian embassy. | |
| And this is the topsy-turvy inverted world that we live in. | |
| And people better get their heads around this because if they don't and we don't stand up to it, then it's not going to stop here. | |
| This is only where we are now in the deletion of freedom. | |
| Where they want to go would make your hair curl. | |
| Okay. Thank you so much for joining me. | |
| I've been talking to David Icke, a political commentator and media personality. | |
| Unfortunately, we're out of time. | |
| Have to go to news now. The world needs renegades. |
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