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July 30, 2018 - David Icke
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David icke Talk On Irish Radio - Full Must Listen Interview
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Hello and welcome $200 conspiracy guys
This time, as you can see, we have sports star and television personality, late minor laughing stock and later major alternative media personality and powerhouse.
Writer of over 30 bucks, sold out Wembley arenas, and like 10 hour Wembley arena shows, and the original conspiracy guy, the turquoise truth teller himself, David Icke, David, thanks so much for joining me.
This is a privilege, and I don't want to go fangirling.
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Yeah, it's a pleasure, mate. Yeah, it's nice that you can use the power of the internet just to reach out and You know, talk to someone that 20 years ago, I would have been like, you're man off the telly!
It's pretty cool, you know?
Yeah, well, you know, the internet is a two-edged sword, really.
I mean, it's been fantastic up to this point, because without it, people like me would have been completely shut out.
But apart from the books and, you know, the public talks, the daily communication would have been shut out.
And so it's been great, but it's also been a fishing rod going out, and now we're seeing the fishing line, if you like, being pulled back in, as, of course, your Facebooks and your Googles and these other internet giants are working to suppress and shadow ban and all these terms, this information. So it's good that we can keep going for now.
Yeah, there's stuff like Article 13, which is the European restrictions on copyright.
So they're using these loopholes to try and corral people's thoughts by going, no, that's unacceptable speak.
We don't like you talking about that.
Are you finding you're getting any kind of lashback against promoting your...
Your live shows or your books or your talks or anything like that.
Are you being shadow banned?
Oh, big time, yeah. Big time.
But three or four years ago, there's about 780,000 followers, if you like, not a word I like, on my Facebook page.
And my interest in my work has exploded over the last three or four years.
And there's now about 750,000.
And it's the same with the YouTube channel.
It's the same with even Twitter.
And when you look at it and you break it down, if you know anything about the alternative independent media and how it works, you can see how systematic it is.
I talked in the new book, which came out a few months ago, about YouTube demonetizing content that was not basically telling the official narrative and was outright challenging it.
Because, of course, great parts of the so-called independent media around the world has managed to work and scrape a living full-time and research full-time because of the monetization of their videos on YouTube.
So the first stage of this process, and it is a process, was to demonetize.
So you take the income away.
As I said in the book, that's the first stage.
The next stage will be outright banning channels, and they've been doing that since the book came out, wholesale around the world.
Then you had, of course, immediately Trump came in.
You had the fake news hoax, which is what it is, because, of course, we've been given fake news all our lives.
Do you know, mate, I've just come back from the United States, where I've been filming, and...
I have to turn on CNN. I know you're going to the States soon, right?
Yes. See how long that you can take watching CNN US style.
Because people see CNN in Europe and they see a certain kind of...
You watch CNN in America.
And basically, whatever you say about Trump, it is Trump anti-Trump rhetoric from literally from morning till night.
The only thing changes is the nature of the presenter.
And they have whole people on, like groups of people, three or four people, you know, like a chat about a Trump decision.
And all three will be anti-Trump.
There won't be anyone putting the other side.
So this fake news has been going on and become more and more fakery, of course, but the hoax is you paint that which is exposing what's going on as fake news and you use that justification to ban it, censor it and shadow ban it, which of course is allowing it to be posted but then stopping it going anywhere.
And your new book then, Everything You Need to Know But Have Never Been Told, released in November, you're bringing that on tour now, so that's kind of what the new gig, the new tour, the new appearances are about, is this new media, the silencing of current opinion, Everything You Need to Know.
Well, as always with me, it's a dot-connecting exercise, because if you see the world...
As a series of people, events, organisations in and of themselves, they look a certain way.
But you connect them together and suddenly the pixels become a picture.
Whoa! So that's what's going on.
And what has happened is for decades now, I've been going around doing 10-hour talks all day.
What I've done now is change it to evening for about four hours.
The one in Dublin on the 24th of August starts at 6.30pm.
Because people will come along, we're really interested, and they'll think, 10 hours, yeah, I want to know what's going on.
But what's happening with evening talks, which I've been doing around the world, is that people are coming who are curious, who will give it an evening, but they won't give it a day.
And the impact of the information, once people see it, is...
It's tangible and, you know, talking to people afterwards.
But what this talk is about is presenting in a very clear and concise, simple way how the world works.
And this is vitally important because what it's doing is those people who have not researched this, and this is what you, me, everyone is trying to put this information in.
No, it's not. No, it's not, but it's possible.
If you concentrate on the structure, how do a few control the world?
Why do you think the way you think?
And why have you thought like that all your life?
Because when people say, you know, I've got this opinion...
And then you present the sequence through their lives of how that opinion came about and why everyone has got basically the same opinion.
Then people go, whoa, I can see how it's done now.
So basically, it's to show how the world works, how our perceptions are manipulated.
And how vast amounts of information to give us a totally different fix on the world, I mean big time totally, is kept from us.
And it's to allow people to go away who are new to it or just curious and say, okay, Now I can see the world for what it is.
I can see why I'm being told this by a politician, why I'm being told this by a corporate CEO, why I'm being told this by a scientist or a journalist.
It's opening the world up to the way it really works, as opposed to the smokescreen that we see all the time and is reported by CNN. There's a lot of people, though, that, like, and especially our audience, because we put out six, sometimes seven-hour episodes, and people are just like, they eat that stuff up real quick.
Yeah. You know, listen to it in a day and work, and six or seven hours is no problem.
I also want to create this show so that it's like building blocks of knowledge, so the older episodes are given a base, and then the more recent episodes dive down into something a little bit more specific.
So I've watched loads of your lectures, ten hours at Wembley, and a lot of stuff is on YouTube, you know?
Yeah. Are you getting people that are like...
Let's say level one, where they absolutely have no knowledge and then they're coming into your concerts or they're reading your books for the first, like one read of your book and you're like, hmm, I'm in.
Okay, I don't know anything about this.
Let's go and hear them talk. You tend to start with the simple stuff and then build it out into a 10-hour, you know, a full tapestry of the information.
Yeah. That is absolutely true.
And these evening events I've been doing for the last year, I'm going to go on through this year and next year, have shown that.
How quickly the pennies can drop once people see the structure.
There's a thing I use in the talk.
Know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
It's very, very fundamental and a very, very simple and powerful way of getting across what I'm saying.
And what I mean by that is this.
If you don't know the outcome, then all the events happening around you are random to you.
They're random. Confusing.
Scary. What's going on?
Why are they doing it like this?
Why are they doing it like that?
But if you know the outcome that they're heading towards, then these random events become very clear stepping stones towards that outcome.
So this is the nature of the talk.
It's this one.
It's to give over these simple tools, if you like, To see the world and how it works.
And it's very, very effective.
And you know, even people who are all new to this, they still have this What's actually going on?
This confusion, this bewilderment.
They know there's something not right.
They see things in the world.
And like I say, they say, well, why are they doing it like that?
Why are they doing that? Well, it's obviously better to do it that way.
And then suddenly, whoa, that's why they're doing it like that.
That's why they're doing it like that.
And that's the outcome that it's all about.
So, yeah, it's been very, very encouraging, the response to it.
So when you're going into a four-hour talk, are you getting people who are well clued in and you're going a little bit deeper than you would?
You're going into some hard-hitting stuff, so they're coming away like, I know exactly what's going on.
That's the thing. What I've been trying to do all the time I've been doing this, and it's a very basically thin line to walk, is...
First of all, I've never gone on a speaking tour or written a book unless I've had something new to say.
No, the same point. So the books come out about every two years because the whole thing's moved on and there's so much more to say, so much more to know.
And then the talks move on.
In fact, the talks move on all the time.
By the time I get to Christmas going around Europe, this talk will have moved on.
Why? Because the world will have moved on.
And so it's this fine line of the big block on communication that so many people forget, don't assume knowledge.
Because if you assume knowledge, then people go, sorry mate, I don't understand that.
And once they say that, you lost them.
So it's this fine line of keeping it simple, but also bringing in new depths of Of the story, the research, for those that do know something about it.
Well, for a lot of people, when they finally cling on to something and they finally have synthesized that information, they know what it means.
More often than not, especially in the kind of alternative media conspiracy world, those things then change.
The parameters of that truth that they've spent so long trying to acquire have changed.
They'll go, I know, fuck it.
I'm just going to stick with the thing that I know and I'll just believe that forever.
And they dig themselves down into this trench.
Like we see inside...
The conspiracy community, like people with flat earth views versus people who are like, that's a load of bullshit, or people who believe that the earth is a hologram, and people who are like, well, I think government corruption is a thing, but they're not like aliens or whatever.
There is some kind of a disjoint between people who understand And they can't get past that then.
How do you evolve your thoughts?
What's your motivation? And do you read every day?
Are you getting more people's books like Joseph Campbell and Eric Von Daniken?
Are you looking back through history and trying to inform yourself all the time?
Or how does that work? Well, I've been doing that all along, looking back about where we came from, and you've just introduced something where I could probably talk about this for two or three hours and not come up for breath.
It's a very, very important point.
I see people in cul-de-sacs all over the place, and the Independent media, much of which perceives itself to be open-minded, if you use the term open-minded as a Finnish product, I'm open-minded, then there's very little open-mindedness in the alternative media compared with those that are involved in it.
There are a lot of people who are more open-minded than the mainstream, which is a very different thing.
I used this analogy a long time ago.
Of people coming out of the womb and they start walking down the road and they've got a backpack on.
And most people up to this point, it is changing, but most people still come out onto that road and they get the tent out of the backpack and they park their tent.
These are the people that believe basically everything the mainstream tells them, whatever form of the mainstream everything it is.
Then you've got people who walk a bit further, and they'll be the environmentalists, or people like that, and maybe people a bit more of the socialist view maybe, and they'll park their tent.
And the people who have parked their tent earlier will look on the people who've done it later as crazy extreme, right?
And then other people keep going and they might look into the conspiracy a bit, but only on the five cents level, only within the realm of the scene and mainstream society.
And then they'll park their tent.
And now the people, the environmentalists and the people who might be of a socialist persuasion, they will look upon them as extreme.
Then you go through that and keep going to people like me who are looking at...
I have a simple question.
What the hell's going on? And I have no...
No answer that I'm trying to sell.
I want to know what the answer is and therefore the information will take me where I'm going to go, not preconceived idea and not a belief system that is not for moving.
So I don't have a backpack.
I don't have a tent because I hope I'm not arrogant enough to believe that Even if I live a long time more than my current 66 years, that I'm going to know everything.
It's like Socrates is supposed to have said in ancient Greece, wisdom is knowing how little we know.
And when you then look at all these different people symbolically who've pitched their tent...
Even in the alternative media, you think they're way open-minded.
They still look at people like me as crazy.
In other words, this is the irony.
They look at people who won't pitch their tent or have pitched it further down the road in the same way of people that pitch it further back in the road see them.
It's an extraordinary psychological thing that is there to observe.
Intellectual tribalism, as it were.
Yes, that's a good term.
What I would say to them is this, if we really get deeper into reality, according to mainstream science, The electromagnetic field is 0.005% of what is this in the universe.
It's probably a lot less than that if the truth be told.
And visible light, which is the only frequency band that we can actually see and decode into the reality we call the world, is a tiny sliver of the 0.005%.
According to mainstream science, the size of the planet Earth, when compared with the projected size of the universe, is equivalent of a billionth of a pinhead.
And to think that anyone could pitch their tent at all in this reality, with all the limitations of perception created by the human body, that there is a place for the tent to be pitched is extraordinary to me.
We have to be...
Humble enough to know that whatever we know or think we know, there's always vastly more to know.
And that keeps driving you on.
It certainly drives me on, so that you are understanding more and more and more and more.
And what I've found, I don't know about you, is the more you kind of understand, the simpler it gets, the simpler it can be presented.
So when you're leveling up your audience, like you're only...
You're a few years ahead of somebody who's listening to you and reading all the stuff that you recommend and reading all your books.
You're only a few years ahead of them and coming back and going, well, I found this.
So they're leveling up every time they read a book of yours.
It's funny. When I was a journalist, because I left school at 15, I didn't take a major exam.
Thank you, God, by the way.
I didn't get the programming.
I was a bit of a rebel at school as I've been ever since.
But what I found when I was a journalist is that I would talk to academics or I'd talk to scientists or I'd talk to lots of people in the system.
And they'd give me the jargon, right?
Like a school teacher or an academic in a university.
They'd give me the jargon in response to a question.
And I used to say to them, look, mate, maybe you might think I'm a bit thick, but can you put it in words that I can understand?
And you know they couldn't.
And if you can't put what you say...
In simple language and simple analogy that anyone can understand, you don't understand your subject.
And I see so many of these people repeating the jargon, repeating the jargon, which shows that it's got lots of syllables in.
I must be clever. Rhetory.
Yeah. And you say, hold on a minute.
Other people's words. Exactly that.
Repeaters. What do you...
What do you mean about that?
You know that scene in the film Notting Hill where the guy's pointing out to the girl where he lives and she says, give it me in yards.
You remember? And that's what I mean.
Give it me in yards.
Because if you can, you understand the subject.
And that's me.
That's been a very great thing about my life.
And that is that I didn't have this great formal education.
And therefore, I want things in simple terms.
So if I see something complex, I have to break it down into something that could be understood.
And what am I doing in that?
I'm just doing what the ancient shamans did.
You know, when the shamans went into other levels of reality with their consciousness, they had to come back and explain to people who hadn't been there What they saw.
And to do that, what did they have to do?
They had to use analogies that the people could understand who haven't been there, analogies that related to the lives of those people.
And it sounds so primitive to us because you see the movies and the Native American Indian guy is like
A big silver bird flew with the sky And they wouldn't understand what a plane is
No, exactly. So you have these anthropologists and people who go out and they take what he said literally instead of taking it symbolically.
And if you take it symbolically, and I've talked to loads of these shamans carrying this knowledge from the ancient world, because you mentioned and went into it a bit earlier, my contention from the start has been If this is happening now, then there must be records of it, legends of it, accounts of it, going back.
Because it ain't just started, right?
And so one of the things that I did, particularly, I still do it, but particularly a few years ago, back into the 90s and stuff, is I was looking at what I was being told about how the world was controlled and who by, and to what end.
I was looking through the ancient accounts to see if there was...
There was, speaking of it, and I found it all over the world.
And, you know, my life since my head blew off in 1990, 91, has been an amazing synchronistic journey of amazing coincidences, which have, you know, continued to the present day, which have put this information in front of me.
And, you know, this is not something that's just started.
This is something that's been going on But you see, what you've got in the alternative independent media, you've got a lot of people who are mainstream light.
And what I mean by that is they'll look at the stories that appear in the mainstream media and they'll put a different spin on them.
But they won't go beyond the mainstream.
They may be, for instance...
But it's monetization, David.
They don't want to alienate a paying audience.
And I think there's a lot of people in this game, in the conspiracy game, that are underestimating the intelligence of the people that are looking this stuff up.
Well, you're absolutely correct on that count and on the second one, because what I've been finding is that the biggest interest when I put things out has been in the far out stuff.
Yeah, absolutely. If you go on my YouTube page and you look at the videos that have crossed a million or more, they're all the far out stuff.
Well, overwhelmingly, not entirely, but overwhelmingly.
Because I've seen this since I was, well, I've seen it, you know, Picking up over the years, but particularly since I've been on this world speaking tour, the old days becoming the evenings now, since the summer of 2016, I've seen this incredible opening of people's minds who are now able to look at things dispassionately that they would have waved away as crazy not so long ago.
Something big time is happening.
And because the mainstream, for obvious reasons, dominates the microphones, the airwaves, the communication, and to a very large extent the independent media is dominated by mainstream light that will go here but no further, this awakening has been lost.
To people. Not lost.
It's getting bigger all the time.
I mean, lost to people.
In the sense, they don't realize what's happening.
To the majority, you mean?
Yeah, the majority.
And in the independent media, you're absolutely right.
They're still going around in the eddy to a very large extent.
And, you know, it's...
Well, I'm testament to that.
Because I get as much abuse and criticism from large chunks of the independent media as I get from the mainstream.
Because I'm challenging and questioning...
Every aspect of what we have been told to believe in.
And I'm holding it up and I'm saying, if it stands up to scrutiny, okay, I'll have it.
But if it doesn't, I won't have it.
And the thing is, when you hold up these, well, everyone knows that, mate, apparent truths to scrutiny, you find that they're actually houses of cards.
Yeah, they build castles on sand and then as soon as that thing is then debunked at some point in the future, everything that that person ever says then becomes moot.
What kind of a relationship do you have then with other highly popular conspiracy theorist proponents like Alex Jones or Joe Rogan or any of these guys that are top producers?
You don't play the game as such.
You're not doing your Instagrams and your Snapchats and you're not doing three YouTube channel uploads a week and all this kind of stuff.
You just plug away, you get your shit done and you do these big massive venues.
What do you think about Alex Jones and his daily perpetuation of his agenda and his narrative along with the rest of Infowars or Joe Rogan taking in all of these experts and gleaning them for their information?
Well, what I've said all along is that I applaud anyone who in any way puts out information that gets people to question the norm, the reality they've always been grown up with, what I call the postage stamp consensus, which is downloaded to us from Cradle to Grave.
Obviously, I go much further than both of them.
But they have a, you know, I'm glad they're there rather than not there, put it that way.
But again, they do it their way, I do it my way.
And my way, because of the person I am, has no limits.
There's no parameters on where I will go.
This is why, you know, so many people in the independent media think, oh, that's crazy.
I mean, I'll tell you a story. I was invited to speak years ago to be interviewed on a film called Thrive.
I was speaking up in America and they turned up and they interviewed me and I forgot all about it.
I didn't think about it again.
And then it must have been two years, maybe even three years later, this movie came out, Thrive.
And it was about metaphysics.
It was about looking at the world in a different way.
And when I heard it was come out, I thought, well, I hope they're not using me in this.
And I'm much further down the road than when they interviewed me three years ago.
But they were talking to me about finance, which unfortunately never changes.
Anyway, what happened is people like Deepak Chopra were in there and environmentalists and, you know, astronauts.
And they then write this open letter to the producers, put it on the Internet, detaching themselves from the film because I was in it.
Because they claim that because I was in it, they were being discredited by association because they were in the same movie as me.
And those people will believe that they're free-thinking, open-minded people.
But again, they'd pitch their tent wherever it is, here and no further.
So that's as far as they're going.
Now the Eddie's started.
And my view is, like I said earlier...
Wisdom is knowing how little you know.
Therefore, you're always looking for new knowledge.
And again, the idea that even the Deepak Chopras and these other people, the idea that they can know all there is to know and therefore wave the hand away from anyone who's putting something else out is really self-indulgent, in my view. But that's what you get.
That's what you get when you've got a here but no further limit to what you'll explore.
Yeah, it seems that you've been steeled in the fires of, what would you say, not ridiculed, but like people are putting you on the very, very fringes of this community.
And it hasn't been any different.
The first time you ever came out, we talked about it on our episode about you, We talked a little bit about your personal life, about your history, where you came from, and then we moved on to more of your theories and about your books and how they were all written.
It was the Terry Wogan interview.
I've seen dozens of these things, so we won't labour on it too long, but you basically went to Peru, you had a moment, the spiderweb on your face, and you had the information download, and you came back and tried to tell everybody about it, and people were like, Blasphemer!
Ike's a blasphemer!
And it ended up getting ridiculous.
You were a laughingstock, but you said that it cured you of that feeling of...
Yeah, best thing ever happened to me.
And you mentioned religion there.
And people think when they perceive religion of people in frocks and hats on and gowns and ritual.
And that is, of course, what my father used to call bricks and mortar religion.
But if you look at the...
dictionary definition of religion it actually applies to the mainstream
everything under that definition mainstream science is a religion it's an
orthodoxy and the orthodoxy books of science are their religious holy
texts and they...
Newton as a Jesus Christ figure Yeah, they must not be deviated from.
And again, what does that do?
Excuse me, Mr.
Professor Richard Dawkins and all you like, who have the letters after your name and strut around like intellectual giants.
You're telling me you know all there is to know?
Because if you do, you're just telling me you are in a very extreme state of self-delusion.
I mean, let's take that analogy from earlier.
You're within the...
This is the religion thing.
You're within that sliver of frequency called visible light within this electromagnetic 0.005% of the universe.
Yet all you need to know is within the covers of one book within the sliver of 0.005%.
And when you put it like that, it's crazy.
But what is it?
This is the point. It's a gatekeeping of knowledge.
Exactly. When we look at how the world is controlled, they don't want an informed, free-thinking, open-minded, open-to-any-possibility population.
They want a closed-minded, programmed perception population.
Religion has played a massively important part in that.
Incredibly, absolutely central, not least in Ireland.
But... We must also see, I think, that religion doesn't always have to be under a spire in front of an altar.
It can be anything, any perceptual state that refuses to move.
And you get punished for it if you don't move from it, which is what's happening now in the alternative media.
There's a big move away from the traditional bricks and mortar church, as you call it, and the Catholic Church in Ireland.
There's still laws in our constitution where you can't talk about it on national media for fear of blasphemy and fines and shit like that.
So after this marriage equality referendum and the abortion referendum, it's shown that the people of Ireland are going, well, I'm rejecting that dogmatic religious structure.
I'm willing to commune with my God on my own terms.
And even people like my parents who were in their late 60s, I pray at home and I only go to church because everyone else goes there, but I'm not into it.
Like these structures of belief so long ago, like you were going on TV in 1991 saying like, hey, religion, like I'm a son of the Godhead.
I feel like God exists in me and I exist in him.
And everyone just went, oh, fucking stadium, man.
Like later on, there'll be like, you know, You know, cults are, not cults, but, like, sects of religion and groups of people coming together, worshipping one guy in these, like, Indian communes and stuff, where they'll take a personality and turn him into a religion.
Like, even Scientology is a set of rules, and you go by the writings of one person.
Like, back then, it wasn't so.
And you came out with this new thinking.
As you went along, it seems that you've been a couple of steps ahead of everybody.
But when you did...
I guess, acquire this information in Peru.
Can you just describe what happened?
Was it like a download?
Did it feel like a nervous breakdown?
Did it feel like you were on an acid trip?
I understand you don't take acid, you don't take any hallucinogenics.
No, no. I took ayahuasca once in the Brazilian rainforest in 2003, but that's the one and only occasion.
But yeah, what it was like, it was like you're living in a bubble Which is detaching you from what's beyond the bubble.
And then someone comes along on a hill in Peru and bursts the bubble.
And what happened is that all this information, these concepts, these insights were hitting me like a tidal wave.
From another place?
Basically, well look, We, the five senses perceive, or the visual senses anyway, perceive this sliver of 0.005% of the universe.
What exists beyond it is infinity.
I mean, what do people think exists beyond that sliver of frequency?
You know, a vacuum?
Of course not. It's an infinity of reality.
We only perceive a tiny fraction of that reality because that's What this human biological computer, as I call it, is capable of decoding.
Just like a radio station or a television station will show you a channel.
It won't show you beyond that channel on the screen.
And now kids are being put in through school and even being dumbed down even further and their antennas are being dulled.
Exactly. And it's systematic.
So what happened, mate? And this is what awakening is.
What is awakening? People say, I'm seeking enlightenment.
Well, don't seek enlightenment.
Realize you are enlightened.
Just realize that's what's stopping you.
Being aware of that enlightenment is all the perceptual programs that are creating this bubble.
So the bubble burst and in come all these concepts.
It's just basically like opening the sluice gates.
And what happens? You open the sluice gates.
When you open a sluice gate, you don't have to go through the sluice gate and start shouting the water and saying, the sluice gate's open, you can come now.
It's pushing against it, right?
Well, this infinite consciousness that we all are an expression of, A point of attention within is pushing against the sluice gate symbolically.
So once you let the perceptual programs drop and say, well, okay, I'm going to look at this again with a truly open mind, boom, in it comes.
But it happened to be in an amazing way on that hill in Peru.
And what happened then for three months, I'm trying to process this information.
And just like I've got a computer here, and if I press too many keys on the computer...
Oh, I have.
I'm off, mate. You pressed too many.
The camera went off. Well, that is very symbolic because I'm coming back now.
Because that's very symbolic, fairly enough, because that's what happened to me.
You lost your vision. You couldn't see yourself.
I pressed too many keys on the computer.
In other words, I'm trying to process this information.
It's just too much because it's come out of nowhere.
And the computer froze.
Just then, it froze.
And it was about three months.
And in a part of that three months, I was on the Wogan show.
So that's what that was all about.
But then, after about three months, it was like the computer unfroze.
And suddenly, I was the person I was before.
People were saying to me who met me, I thought you'd gone mad, Dave.
You're the same person I used to know.
But I only was to look at.
I wasn't in the way I saw the world, because now I saw the world in a completely different way.
I was starting to see the way things connected rather than seeing them only years apart.
And then the journey went on from there into where it is today, the point being, what people remember, because that's what happened in the massive publicity.
They remember the three months.
So they still think, much less famously...
They still think the me today is the me of the three months because they're not told any different.
And it's interesting now.
The media used to ridicule me.
Now they basically, almost entirely, ignore me.
Especially in this country and places like America.
Because I've been into Europe on this...
Into places like Serbia and countries of the Balkans, etc., and Eastern Europe.
And I've been on their mainstream breakfast show for half an hour talking about this stuff.
It's a different world.
I saw you being interviewed by Philip Schofield a couple of times and he seemed really cynical and he was very shitty and short and trite about it.
You were talking about giving up worldly possessions and he's like, yeah, but you have to pay 65 pounds to get into your gig.
And I'm like, yeah, dude, but that shit doesn't make itself.
It just seems that they're...
You want to see how much it takes to put Wembley on?
That's what I mean, like he's trying to pick that stuff apart.
Well, I did say to him, I'll swap what I earn with what you earn, and he didn't do the deal.
But this is what they're like.
See, what you're looking at is someone with Philip Schofield and his like,
is someone who's completely mesmerized by the program and can't see beyond it.
The material stuff is still gone.
They literally cannot compute where you're coming from.
And it's the same with scientists.
You know, if you program a computer, then it will read what it's programmed to read.
It won't have the capacity to process the information it's not programmed to read.
This is how China can wall off so much of the internet for Chinese people.
So you can be stopped in the street.
It's happened many, many times.
You can be stopped in the street as I am all over the world now.
This is how far it's got out.
And you can have a really in-depth conversation with someone who would be seen by the system as uneducated, as I would have been seen from my education history.
But they get it.
Yeah. Because to such a vast extent, it's the download of perceptual programming called education that stops people getting it.
And who gets it? So what do you think is the difference then between your material, which seems to be esoteric, based more on like a concept, like in history, and it is factual according to like ancient texts and the books that you've gleaned this information from, So it is there.
It is, you know, supported by evidence.
But your stuff seems to be a little bit more esoteric, a little bit more, as we call in Ireland, highfalutin and kind of out there.
And why then is someone like Alex Jones and his information, which seems to be tangible, it's based on websites, it's based on facts and pictures and images.
Like, why is Alex Jones so super hyper-famous and you're almost being...
Well, two things about that.
Alex has a Christian belief, I understand.
And he also has an audience, a lot of it with a Christian belief.
And he's coming from a certain perceptual direction in terms of America and being American.
Second Amendment, First Amendment, all of these things.
That will influence his perception of the world.
My way of looking at it is quite simply, I want to know what's going on.
And this is the point.
The reason so many people in the independent media are getting more and more and more frustrated What's going on in the world is they can't see an answer to it.
And you'll never find an answer to what is happening in the realm of the five senses.
You won't.
Where the answers lie are in the realms of consciousness.
Understanding that we are not our body, we're not our name, we're not our labels, we're not our sex, we're not our colour or race or any of these things.
These are labels. These are experiences.
They're not who we are. What we are is a point of attention within infinite awareness.
In other words, we're all points of attention with the same state of awareness, some being more aware than others.
You know, Boris Johnson, I rest my case.
But the...
The answer is becoming conscious beyond mind, beyond the five senses, because that's where you start to see the five sense realm of the experienced visual world in a completely different way, because you're no longer in it and of it.
If you're in it and of it in your perceptions, Then where do you get your information from that gives you a fix on the world and a fix on your self-identity?
From within the realm of which you are in and of.
And in order to question that, then your reality falls apart around you.
Because the system is telling you what to believe.
Because it suits the system.
If about yourself, you're just little me, you have no power and all that stuff.
So if you stay in that realm, And much of the independent media, not all of it, by any means all of it, but a great chunk of it, operates within that realm.
And therefore, it's not going to be able to see any answers.
So if you can't see that the answer is people becoming conscious beyond mind, beyond conscious mind, In a way that can start to get insights, understandings, intuitive knowings from beyond this program, which then opens the world up to you.
Oh, I see it now.
That's the nightmare that this system has.
This is why religion has tried to shut people down.
You're a blasphemer or you're burned at the stake if you go into those realms and report what the insights you get.
Look at the Giordano Brunos and all these people and what happened to them.
Official bricks and mortar religion.
Then science came in.
Mainstream science. What is that doing?
Exactly the same job.
Holding people in this perceptual state of the five senses.
And that's globally about how the world works around you.
As well, social media are changing how people perceive themselves and the other people around them on a micro level.
And science is doing it on a macro level.
Exactly. And so what you have is this...
Desperate effort.
This is why they're so terrified of, quote, visionaries.
Look throughout history.
Who have been the people, the system and authority of the day, have most been frightened of?
People who were saying to people, which is what I'm saying, hey...
I'm not telling you what to think, but there's other ways of looking at this.
There's other ways of looking at life.
There's other ways of looking at who you actually are and what that awareness that you are actually is and what it's really part of.
That's the big danger because once that happens, it starts to go.
And it's like a domino.
I have this phrase, defending the first domino.
The system defends the first domino at every point because when the first domino falls, others start to fall.
So don't let people start to awaken because you'll never stop it.
If you take acupuncture seriously as a method of healing, that's the first domino falling.
The next domino says, well, how does it work?
And now suddenly you've got a whole new explanation of the nature of the body and the nature of in the end of life itself and all the dominoes are falling.
That's why they're defending the first domino in all these subject areas.
So I look at people like Alex and I respect what he's done and other people and I respect what contribution they're making in their way.
But you'll never find answers within the five cents realm because that's where the program lies.
That's the program stadium.
It's playing at home there.
You'll find it when you allow your mind to break through these programs of perception
and let it go where it wants to go and it will take you where it wants to go.
There's a lot more of that talk in both of your books, Children of the Matrix and
the Perception Deception.
Yeah, I do a hell of a lot of this in the talk as well in Dublin on the 24th, a hell
of a lot of it because as well as knowing how the system works, the big breakthrough,
the big key that opens the gateway to freedom, perceptual freedom, is knowing the nature
of who we are and how we impact upon reality and how we allow reality to impact on us.
That's the gateway.
That's the way out of here.
You can get tickets for that at davidike.com.
Davidike.com, yeah. This area of the alternative media that we're talking about doesn't go into those areas and it basically stays with the problem and the solutions can't be seen.
The other thing which is very relevant to present day, if you can't see answers to what has happened because it's real simple.
The answers are to remove the problem that's holding us in servitude.
And the answers are to look at what the system wants to suppress, where it's always targeting its suppression.
Because where it's targeting its suppression is crucial to its survival.
And that is on holding people in these perceptual prisons.
So the answer lies in breaking them up.
But if you don't see that, then when you're looking for solutions...
The only solutions you can see are within the five senses world that you are perceiving.
And that's why suddenly, again, having said for years and years and years, it's no good voting, the political parties are just masked on the same face, which I say and I've been saying for 30 years and I'm still saying.
You go, no, Trump's different.
Trump's different. He wants to make America great again.
And Again, you're looking for answers, and this man comes up and says a lot of what you want to hear.
Not that he really means it, but what you want to hear.
And so you get caught in the Trump euphoria.
This man's going to do it. We must support Trump.
We must vote for Trump. Well, it's something to change.
It's a difference. People want something different from this Obama-slash-Clinton campaign.
I think it's an oligarchy that people have perceived the government in America or the control structure in America to be.
And as soon as Trump is coming in, then we see stuff like Pizzagate and we see, you know, the Hollywood sex predators being taken out.
All through the start of 2017, there was thousands of pedophiles all over America, all arrested and these rings broken up.
To somebody who wants to support that, there is evidence to support it.
I find that I get a lot of shit because I'm criticizing the media, and I find things that they say wrong, but the media is unilaterally criticizing Trump, so if I criticize the media, it seems like I'm supporting Trump or defending him somehow.
How do you see those new physical evidences of this I see it in a rather different way.
What we're dealing with in the shadows is a force, a network that fundamentally understands human psychology.
Because this is a psychological game.
And now they are doing it through computer systems.
You see, all this stuff that is constantly recorded, the fine detail of people's lives through Facebook and all these other internet giants...
They are diverting people's attention away by, oh, it's all about money, it's all about advertising.
No, it's not. Yes, they'll do that because they're crazy about money.
It's about gathering fine detail information on people's lives and what is that?
People's perceptions.
They are constantly monitoring perception.
So you have a situation where Trump came out of nowhere, and not really, but appeared to.
The whole of the Republican Party was supposed to be against him.
There were 16 other Republican candidates, and he beat the lot.
He had enormous funding from very powerful people.
And he was appealing in his rhetoric, and I think some of it was genuine, I don't think anything like all of it is, to this mentality that was rejecting the system.
As the mentality rejects the system, you can either try to resist it, that's obvious, or you can catch it, move with it, and mold it.
And therefore, a lot of the alternative media that were saying don't vote for anybody because it's all a scam were caught in that.
Alex Jones was massively caught in that.
And I look at what Trump has done in terms of draining the swamp, and he's not done it.
You see, you look at the Harvey Weinstein situation.
He could have been outed a long time ago.
He was outed then. But what it's done is focus the whole thing on women.
Me too. Which is basically celebrities saying we're victims.
When you look at all the female real victims of mind control programs and sexual trafficking going on all over the place.
And what that has done is turn it away from the real thing that's going on in Hollywood, where I've just come back from actually.
Not Hollywood itself, but Los Angeles.
And that's the deepest level of paedophilia and Of Satanism.
And I look at the people he's appointed around him.
They're all swamp people.
And if you look at the people around Trump...
They are all, not all, but the key players are all ultra-Zionists, whose main focus of attention is not the United States and it's not the world, it's Israel.
And so what you've seen as a result with his son-in-law, Javid Kushner, Who has known Benjamin Netanyahu through most of his life since he was a kid, because Netanyahu was a friend of his father, who went to jail for fraud.
And you look at the two people that used to work for the Trump Organization, Jason Greenblatt and David Friedman, Greenblatt is now his chief international negotiator, Friedman, who is an ultra-Zionist, so extreme he meets himself coming back, who is now ambassador for Israel.
The embassy in Tel Aviv has been moved to Jerusalem.
They are building on occupied Palestinian land at a rate never seen before, all because they know they're going to get no resistance from the United States.
Now, that is not draining the swamp.
Putting another ultra-Zionist, Steve Mnuchin, in power as your Treasury Secretary, who was formerly the head of your fundraising campaign for your election, is not draining the swamp.
These are not swamp drainers.
You predicted this potential control mechanism in Robots Rebellion.
You've just got to watch the psychological game because they're moving and monitoring opinion all the time and they're molding it as best they can to put it in another cul-de-sac.
And Trump is another cul-de-sac.
But I would say this, and this is what I see all the time.
Mature people...
We don't have a position in terms of everything that you perceive comes from that position.
Therefore, mature people will look at someone like Trump and they'll say, okay, When he says something on this, don't agree with that.
Don't agree with that.
Says something on that, yeah, I agree with that.
That's what maturity does.
It says, I'm going to listen to what the person says, and then I'm going to make a judgment, my personal judgment, on what he said.
And no one is always right.
No one is always wrong.
Therefore, in everybody, you're going to hear things said that you agree with and that.
The scale in terms of your perception of the person is the ratio of what you agree with against what you don't.
But what we're seeing is this incredible polarization where anything Trump says...
How do you feel about that? The Antifa having pitched battles in the street with Trump supporters.
It seems that America is tearing itself apart and Trump is the enemy for half of America and the hero for the other
half.
Like how has it got that far?
We've swapped globalism and this new world order now for a neo-Nazi cold war.
It seems like all the greatest hits of human tragedy are coming back now so we've like a cold war buzz.
We have a Germany-Nazi buzz.
We have Israel taking over again.
How do you feel about this polarization of society?
Well, if people read my latest book, you mentioned Everything You Need to Know But Never Been Told.
I'm talking there of why I felt Trump was brought in.
And one of them is he is an incredible...
I mean, look around. He's an incredibly divisive character.
That's just what they want.
What is the bottom line of the few controlling the many in any situation?
It's dividing and ruling the many.
And I said in that book that what they're looking for, some form, however extreme it may get or not get, is a form of civil war between what are now called progressives, who ludicrously call themselves liberals.
They're not the liberals that I identify with.
And the perceived right or far right.
And so you've got a polarization.
Now, if you don't want people looking at what you're doing, when the conjuring trick is happening with the right hand, you want people looking at the left hand.
So what they're doing is focusing people so entirely on Trump And I love Trump.
I hate Trump. That everything beyond that is being lost.
And I've just come back from the place through which the world is increasingly controlled.
I say through, not from, because it's just a front for a much deeper power.
And that's Silicon Valley in California.
From there now, we have internet giants that are doing everything this control system wants.
They're gathering enormous amounts of fine detail information on people's lives for all the reasons and more that I've talked about.
They are able, because of the communication of information is massively through those channels now, they can dictate through algorithms, not even human intervention, what people see and don't see.
And they are at the cutting edge of the real Endgame goal of all this, which is to attach the human brain mind to artificial intelligence.
So artificial intelligence becomes the human mind.
It becomes human thinking. And they've got so confidence, some of them in Silicon Valley, like Ray Kurzweil, an executive of Google, is actually openly talking about it because he says it's going to make us superhuman.
It won't. It will make us subhuman.
It will make us computer terminals on an AI internet.
But... Then look at where the focus of most people is politically.
It's not on that.
It's on I love Trump, I hate Trump and all that.
And, you know, people talk about the rise of these so-called populist parties and all this illiberal Antifa.
Antifa is a liberal organization.
I... I identify, for want of a description, with the dictionary definition of being a liberal.
You're a Green Party politician?
Well, no, no, I would say they are progressives increasingly, not liberal, because that's
the progressive, illiberal, fascistic mentality that is driving political correctness, which
is simply a mechanism of getting the target population to silence itself.
I'm coming from the point of view, if you look at the dictionary definition of liberal,
of being in favour of maximum freedom, maximum freedom of expression, maximum freedom of
opinion, maximum freedom of lifestyle, so long as you don't impose it on anyone else,
which is the thing that most people forget when they talk about freedom of lifestyle.
But that is not where the progressive mentality is coming from, which came out of California originally.
That is saying, as I say in the new book, the maxim of the progressive fascistic illiberals is, I am right.
That's all that matters. This is the process where it goes.
I am right.
The only right is, I am right.
Now, because I am right...
Anyone that says anything that is different to what I say must by definition be wrong and because they're wrong, their freedom of speech doesn't matter.
Only mine does because I am right.
This is the mentality and it's the mentality that's driving political correctness.
So... Do you think that the artificial intelligence and transhumanist movement, coupled with this rabid liberalism that I've talked about often on the show and we have an episode on cultural Marxism now, like...
Cultural Marxism as a term, you're not allowed to say it because it comes from an anti-Semitic origin and cultural Bolshevism and this kind of thing.
So do you think that, like, I read recently that now people are bringing up babies with no gender until the age of four or five.
They call them babies and they're allowing them to choose their own identity.
This dissolution of personal responsibility as well as this artificial intelligence and...
A personality or an identity that lives outside of yourself on the internet.
Is this the end game where they're pushing you into not even being sure of the things that you're thinking yourself?
Double second guessing everything you're ever going to say ever, especially on the internet where people increasingly live.
This is just now an internal talk police method of control.
What's the end game?
I would say in reply to what you've just said, all of the above is true.
But again, if we're going to understand the step we're looking at, we have to understand the journey those steps are meant to take.
So don't see everything in and of itself In the moment you're looking at.
Look at how it fits.
Know the outcome.
See the journey. I quoted a guy in books some time ago, and certainly again in the new book, called Dr.
Richard Day. Dr.
Richard Day was a big-time Rockefeller insider.
And for whatever reason, I'm glad he did it.
No one seems to know.
He stood up in 1969 at a conference of pediatricians in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and he asked them to turn off their recording equipment and not take notes, because he was going to tell them how the world was going to change, because that which he was part of was going to change it.
And what he described that day, in the book before the new one called Phantom Self, I quote this guy at length, it is stunning!
You can see, as I've said before many times over the years, where people like Aldous Huxley and, you know, Orwell, Eric Blair's real name, George Orwell, where they got their insight from.
It wasn't all from their imagination because there are two worlds.
There's the one we live in and there's the one from which the world we live in is manipulated.
And if you go into that other world, you know what's coming long before it appears to those that are actually experiencing it.
And this guy, Dr.
Richard Day, was so accurate in detail on what is happening now and where it's going.
And one of the things he said in 1969, we're going to make boys and girls the same.
And that is what is happening.
Now, there's another big thing to remember.
If you want to see...
Things that are absolutely certainly the agenda.
Look at what you're not allowed to talk about and you're not allowed to have an opinion on.
You cannot have an opinion against the idea that's put about by transgender activists that you just choose your gender and biology has nothing to do with it.
I don't know about you, but I haven't got any breasts.
I've just got little ones.
I have dangly bits where females have something different.
Of course, what is that?
It's biology.
Now, I'm not saying for a second that the situation doesn't exist where people can feel they're in the wrong body.
And they're the people we should be focusing on and helping.
Because they're the people who genuinely deserve support, require support.
Discrimination against anyone is childlike.
But that's not what's happening.
What's happening is not...
They get their foot in the door with, we've got to stop discrimination against transgender people.
That's the foot in the door.
And, you know, they're pushing against an open door with me on that.
Yes, we should. But this is not about that.
This is about confusing children and other people about their gender who weren't confused before.
This is why we're having this explosion.
Why? Among other things, they're also taking over using those mechanics to silence other
types of criticism about their politics and their particular agenda.
Go on, like, you can't think about this.
Take it and demonetize or even deleting anything that was about gun control.
About David Hogg and the shooting in Parkland School.
Yeah, everything off YouTube was was taken off because of that.
And they used that.
They used David Hogg as a spokesperson because he's a child.
And then they said, if you criticize him, that's harassment because he's a child.
And holding that up as a shield and a sword.
You see it everywhere. You see it everywhere.
If you're not allowed to have an opinion about it, it's the agenda because they don't want a free debate about pillars of the agenda because the pillars of the agenda in free debate would fall over.
A, they'd be exposed and B, they'd be shown to be nonsense and have no valid ground that
they're standing on.
But what if, and I say this is the case, the plan is to create a new human, a kind of synthetic
human, they're already doing it, my goodness, they're already doing it, which has no gender,
which has no ability to procreate and has no gender at all.
We're all this Huxley Brave New World at that point.
We're creating the deltas, the alphas and the gammas, you know?
Exactly. And as I've said in the books over many, many years, Orwell and Huxley were not coming purely from their imagination.
They had access to the agenda and they were using that knowledge in their books.
That's why they've been proved to be so unbelievably accurate.
And of course, Brave New World, which was published in 1932, is becoming more and more valid, coming up in terms of validity with modern events now with 1984 as we enter these realms of genetic manipulation and synthetic humans.
And you see, if...
If you're going to do something physically, if you're going to change something physically, not that physical exists, but that's a little story, but what we perceive as physical.
If you're going to change something physically, first you've got to change it psychologically.
And what's happening with this transgender explosion and this pushing of it and denying any other opinion, it is a psychological programming to accept this No gender world.
And at the same time, this is happening, of course.
Sperm counts are falling, often rapidly.
Tetosterone rates are falling, not just in men, but women as well, because women have tetosterone, but not obviously to the same extent.
And you know, when I was a kid, born in the 50s, grew up in the 60s, you never heard anything about fertility clinics.
You never heard about them.
Now, they're everywhere.
Because more and more people are finding it difficult to have children.
What is going on? Do you think that the psychological conditioning reaches as far as entertainment media?
We have now stuff like The Handmaid's Tale, and we have Altered Carbon, Beyond Human.
There's all of this... Science fiction and TV fiction that's all based around these methods of control that you talk about as an insidious force, and we're watching them on Netflix as entertainment.
It's more like an instruction manual.
It's an instruction manual, but I would put it like this.
There is this phrase, preemptive programming.
Okay, what is that about?
The world they're taking us into, particularly people like me born in the 1950s, Because I was born 66 years ago, I have a radar.
I have a point of perception that saw the world before it was anything like it is now.
So what happens is you can see the scale of the change.
If you're born into this now, this is your normal.
This is why older people who have this radar...
That have seen what was and now what is and the scale of change.
They are so important.
Being written off, oh you're old.
They're so important because young people, unless they open their mind to consciousness and that's different, but those who don't have no radar.
This is their normal.
This is how the world's like, mate.
Well it wasn't when I was a kid and I'm not that bloody old.
So That's very, very important.
But we are being taken into a world that is so staggeringly vastly different from what we've experienced.
Even young people today, vastly different from what even they're experiencing now.
That there is an obvious problem with people going, what the heck's going on?
What's happening? This is crazy.
What's going on? So what you're doing...
Is you're feeding the world you're taking people into.
Into the subconscious.
It may come in through the conscious mind.
Never underestimate what's going on subliminally.
But it may come into the conscious mind.
But then it goes into the subconscious mind.
It comes into the conscious mind as a movie.
It's a story. It's a bit of entertainment.
But what's going in the subconscious mind is the killer word familiarity.
You're making people familiar with it.
So when it literally starts to come in...
This familiarity reduces and dilutes the impact of what the hell is going on compared with what it would be without that familiarity programming.
And that's a very important thing.
Absolutely. The word familiar is one of the great ways that people are programmed.
Once something is familiar, it's a gimme.
It's not questioned anymore.
Everyone knows that.
This is how it is.
Taking young people, kids, toddlers, three or four years from coming into the world and putting them into a classroom to start the programming, Because that's familiar, people don't question it.
But it's crazy. It's insane.
It's insane. But it's familiar.
Oh yeah, yeah, they're born and then about four they go to school, then they have their injections.
Yeah, it's the familiarity.
It's not question. And when you go, actually, I am going to question it.
And you say, oh my goodness me, what's really going on?
Have I done that again? Have I done it again?
Yeah, you've gone off again.
Have I gone off again? I'm always doing that.
I don't understand technology.
Actually, when I see what technology is doing, I'm not against technology, but when I see what it's doing to human minds, particularly the young, I'm glad I don't understand it.
Yeah, dopamine.
I don't carry a mobile phone.
Yeah, all the Twitter and Facebook stuff that the brain goes.
Yeah. It's ruined in the young people, David.
It's ruined in them. So before we go, I just want you to tell everybody about a new documentary that I'm dying to see.
It's in the can, and you have an Indiegogo up now to get it over the line, and it's called Renegade.
Renegade, yeah. In the US. I was approached by a company in America who wanted to do this movie about my life and work, which is being contracted now out to Sony, to go out on things like Netflix and other...
It's the same producers who did an episode on the Disclosure Project and Dr.
Stephen Greer. These are the same people that made Unacknowledged.
It's a great guy called Stephen.
He operates his company out of Norfolk, Virginia, where I was a couple of weeks ago.
We have filmed a lot already, but obviously filming is enormously expensive.
There was a certain amount of budget And to finish the film, we've got to get to the end of the line on the budget.
But they're actually coming to Dublin, funnily enough.
Oh, savage. Yeah, they're coming to Dublin.
They're going to film around that event and going to do some other things there.
And then we're going to go to Rome, I hope.
That's the plan. And we're going to do that whole Babylon to Rome thing.
To present day passage of bloodline and secret societies.
We filmed in Washington, D.C. two weeks ago, which was, I mean, like I said to you before we came on air, it's just Rome.
That's Rome relocated.
Just look at the buildings. Transplanted empire, yeah.
And then we went to California and I did Silicon Valley and also met An extraordinary human being, actually extraordinary spirit, more accurate, called Alice Walker.
Of course, a very famous civil rights activist and author, author of that Pulitzer Prize winning book, The Color Purple, which became a movie and is now a Broadway show.
And we had the most incredible three hours together in Northern California because she's been reading my books for years.
She's been an open supporter of me for years and got a lot of abuse from the progressives as a result of it.
But she's a woman who cares about the truth, not about her reputation.
And she was the one that stunned.
This is where I came across her.
Not came across her, but came across the fact that she was looking into my work.
She was on Desert Island Discs on the BBC, you know, this radio show started out by Roy Plumley, goodness knows how long ago.
I think it's the longest running radio show in the world, where they go on the show and they're asked to...
To talk about the eight, I think it's eight, records they would take to a desert island and then talk about their life in between.
And at the end, there's the question, and you've got one book, one book you can take to this desert island.
What would it be? And she said, Human Race Get Off Your Knees by David Icke.
Well, I mean, apparently you could cut the silence with a knife.
Yeah, you've got history with the BBC, right?
Yeah, well, yeah, but I mean, you know, David Icke, this is a civil rights icon.
It was born in the days of segregation in Georgia.
And she wants David Hanks' book.
What's going on? So that was just...
I'll never forget it.
It was one of the greatest days of my life, meeting that lady and having a long chat and seeing how incredibly at one we are in the way we see the world, even in the more far-out ways.
It was amazing. And the most amazing thing, talking about synchronicity, is...
The car I've got, I don't think I've ever seen one in America.
They must exist, but I've never seen one.
It's just a saloon that you regularly found around Britain.
But I've never seen one in America.
And I turn up at her house, and that's her car.
Exactly the same car, and it's exactly the same colour.
Wow. All those thousands of miles apart, first time I ever met her.
Familiarity, David. Yeah, it's simplicity.
There's another world beyond the one we think we're living in.
Absolutely. Well, I can't wait to see that.
Like I said, it's made by the guys who made Unacknowledged and we watched that for our Disclosure Project episode and it's brilliant.
So keep an eye out for that.
that the link for that Indiegogo and the trailer and everything is going to be in the description
below on YouTube or on the podcast notes.
And your new book, well November it was released, but your new book, Everything You Need to
Know But Have Never Been Told, is out now to buy and you are in Dublin on the 24th of
August as well as many other places.
If you want to get the ticket at like.com.
All over the UK, all over Europe.
But particularly for all the Irish people, you can head out to that.
I'm also doing a live show.
I mean, it's not as big as yours, David, but I'm still doing one in the Sugar Club for the podcast festival on the 9th of October.
And there'll be a link for tickets down there.
And hopefully, fingers crossed, I'll be able to see you in August.
That'll be great. Shake hands and meet you finally.
And thanks so much for joining us on this.
It's been... A real pleasure.
A real pleasure, but I've been palpitating for about 45 minutes.
I only calmed down about 15 minutes ago.
But thanks so much for joining me, and thanks to Jamie as well for sorting all this stuff out.
Yeah, he's a great organizer.
I've loved it, mate, and I look forward to seeing you in August.
So I'll put all the links for David if you want to contact him in the description below, and if you want to get back to me about anything or ask me any questions, info at thoseconspiracyguys.com, and we're on all of the social media.
And thanks to all the Patreon people keeping this thing going.
Patreon.com slash ThoseConspiracyGuys.
Once again, thanks to David Icke for joining us.
And that's it for this time on ThoseConspiracyGuys.
I've been Gordo. He's been David.
Oh, I'm sorry. I miss BQ. He's been David.
And yeah, that's it.
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