Dinesh D'Souza critiques the "vice as ignorance" narrative, arguing Democrats knowingly destroy institutions like Oakland and New York to maintain power. He promotes Block Trust IRA and Animus AI as shields against globalist fiat control before interviewing Eva Vlardingerbrook on mass immigration eroding European identity. Balazs Orban joins to discuss Hungary's resistance to liberal universalism, contrasting American pioneer spirit with European decline while uniting radical Islam and the progressive left as enemies of the nation-state. The episode concludes by framing October 7th attacks through "The Dragon's Prophecy," suggesting a biblical red dragon assault on Israel. [Automatically generated summary]
I'm not a regular, but I happened to be watching, and they were talking about how Mamdani is ruining New York.
A predictable story.
But then one of the hosts said something interesting.
She said, doesn't he understand that what he's doing is not good for the city?
Doesn't he understand that it's going to make people want to leave?
Doesn't he understand?
I call this the they just don't get it approach.
It's the standard approach that we Republicans, we on the right, use with the left and the Democrats.
I hear it all the time on social media, on podcasts, on right-wing talk radio.
Don't the Democrats realize that voter ID is essential to election integrity?
Doesn't the left understand that illegals take away jobs from American citizens?
We heard the same refrain through the Biden years.
Doesn't Joe Biden know, or maybe I should say, doesn't the Autopen know, that they're letting in criminals and terrorists through their poorest border policies?
I even heard the same rhetoric from conservatives during the Obama years.
Obama doesn't understand that giving Iran pallets of money and a green light on nuclear weapons is dangerous for our security.
Obama doesn't realize that Obamacare will make our healthcare system more expensive and more bureaucratic.
Obama doesn't seem to get it that he is making race relations worse, not better.
They just don't get it.
That's our underlying framework.
Let's spell it out some more.
Our basic assumption is that the left and the Democrats do bad things, not because they are bad people or because they are after self-serving and destructive ends.
No, they do bad things because they don't know better.
They are ignorant and it's our job to educate them.
Hey, Obama, let me explain to you how there are bad actors in the world and the mullahs are in that group.
Hey, Biden gang, we need to educate you about why you shouldn't use the weaponry of the government to go after your political opponents.
Hey, Democrats, let us help you figure out that the SAVE Act, mandatory voter ID, is good for democracy and good for our country.
Now, I want to argue that this is a completely wrong-headed way to think about Democrats and the left.
But before I do, let's trace the history of this you just don't get it philosophy.
It actually goes back to the ancient Greeks.
The ancient Greeks believed, Socrates is a typical example, that vice is folly.
Vice is the result of ignorance and virtue arises out of knowledge.
People do wrong things because they don't know better.
If they knew better, they wouldn't do these things.
Our job and the job of philosophy is to educate them.
But contrast the Socratic approach with the Apostle Paul.
Now, Paul writes, the good that I would, I do not.
The evil that I would not, that I do.
Paul is saying that even though I know better, I do bad and evil things.
For Paul, the problem is not ignorance.
The problem is with the will.
The will is guided by lust, hatred, ambition.
The will refuses to be bound by reason.
Instead, the will uses reason to achieve its self-serving and wicked ends.
So who describes the left and the Democrats better, Socrates or Paul?
To me, the answer is obvious.
It's Paul.
Where then do we get this naive idea that the left does what it does because of ignorance, because it doesn't know better?
I believe we get it from the naivete of the Reagan years.
In the Reagan years, we generally believed that the differences between the parties, the difference between us and them, were differences not of ends, but only of means.
In that Reaganite framework, the right and the left both want a strong, safe, prosperous America.
We all want to go to the same place.
We have some disagreements, such as how our prosperity should be shared, how to carve up the pie, but these are disagreements within a shared vision.
Therefore, the two sides are really on the same side.
Politically speaking, we are friends and not enemies.
If they go in a different direction than us, our job is to show them that they are misguided.
Today's Republicans, today's right, has inherited that same framework from the Reagan era.
They just don't get it.
It's our job to educate them, to show them where their interests truly lie.
There's a huge fallacy here, and it can be illustrated with the example of a gang of bank robbers who go around robbing and holding up banks.
Now, imagine saying to the robbers, this is not a good idea.
Banks rely on public trust in order to stay in business.
If people regularly rob banks, then banks would go out of business and people would no longer deposit money in them.
So this bank robbery thing is counterproductive because it ends up destroying the banking system itself.
Obviously, the robbers wouldn't care.
Why?
Because they want money for themselves.
They don't care what the effect is on the banking system.
And I think the same logic applies to the Democrats.
Obama didn't care.
He was making Iran stronger and America weaker.
In fact, that was his goal.
This was the point of my book, The Roots of Obama's Rage, and my first film, 2016, Obama's America.
My theme was that Obama was driven by a third world anti-colonial vision in which America is the bad guy and the people fighting America are the good guys.
Obama wanted to take America down a notch, and he did.
He wanted to diminish America's power in the world, and he did.
All our attempts to educate Obama, to instruct him, to make him see the light, failed miserably, not because we are poor educators, but because Obama knew exactly what he was doing.
He understood his objectives much better than we did.
He moved purposefully to achieve them.
We misunderstood Obama because we falsely presumed he shared our objectives.
We offered him a lot of helpful instruction that he considered to be completely useless.
The other day, through some idols scrolling on social media, I happened on a meeting of the Oakland City Council.
What a menagerie.
I saw a bunch of complete dirtballs and losers, people who seemed utterly indifferent to what makes a city run well, in effect, ruining the city.
And of course, the city is in shambles.
It looks like a third world country, which to some extent it is.
San Francisco and New York may be headed the same way.
Now, imagine saying to these city council people, hey guys, you simply don't know how to run a city.
You don't get it.
Let us show you how to attract entrepreneurs.
Let us show you how to reduce tax rates and regulation.
Let us offer you some practical tips on making the city safer.
There are many good ways to improve education and make public services more efficient.
Blah, blah, blah.
Now, you can try this approach, but I predict it will be a total failure.
They have no interest in doing any of this.
Why would they want to make public services more efficient when their friends all run programs that are looting public services?
Why would they want to streamline the homeless industry when it provides huge funding to nonprofits that are their political allies and help them win elections?
The Oakland City Council doesn't care if Oakland becomes a wasteland as long as they can stay in power and feast on its carcass.
And the same can be said about the Democrats who run San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis, and every other blue city.
They are termites who can be counted on to protect termite interests.
Here's the big picture.
A fearful, dependent population is one that relies on the Democratic Party to keep it fearful and dependent.
These are the left's most reliable voters.
The last thing they want is an educated, upwardly mobile population in Oakland or any place else.
As soon as people can make do for themselves, they no longer need the Democratic Party to make it happen for them.
In a way, the dirtballs on the Oakland City Council understand perfectly well what keeps them in power.
We need to stop with the they just don't get it.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work because they know exactly what they're doing.
They are building their political networks and extending their political power.
They wouldn't have such a grip on our culture and politics if they were as ignorant and incompetent as we imagine them to be.
In reality, we are the ones who are ignorant and incompetent.
We have not taken the measure of our opponents.
We don't get it.
Politics is a contest of power.
The left understands this better than we do.
If we want to stop the left and the Democrats, we have to outvote them, out-organize them, out-fund them, out-maneuver them.
In short, we have to defeat them politically.
Let's stop with the useless tutorials, the endless educational jibber-jabber.
The Democrats operate just like termites, just like bank robbers, and we can't talk them out of doing what they do.
And that's the way I see it.
I want to talk to the Americans who have woken up at 3 a.m. and found themselves staring at the ceiling, feeling a growing sense of panic.
Not from a nightmare, from arithmetic.
You're running the numbers in your head, the grocery bill, the gas, the heating, the mortgage, and something doesn't add up.
Not because you've been irresponsible, because you have the instinct of someone who has read enough history to recognize a pattern that 3 a.m. feeling.
It's not anxiety, it is accurate.
Because I've spent decades studying how regimes from fascist Italy to socialist Venezuela consolidate power.
And what I'm watching happen to the American middle class, to the silent majority of this country right now, follows the same playbook page by page.
The global financial establishment has always understood one thing better than its opponents.
Control the money and you control the people.
This isn't new.
FDR confiscated gold in 1933.
Nixon killed the dollar's last link to real value in 1971.
Each time Washington told you it was for your own good.
Ha!
Each time the political class got stronger and the working family got weaker.
Now, what's different today is the speed and the shamelessness of it all.
The same ideological movement that gave us open borders, a weaponized justice department, and the most politically captured bureaucracy in American history is also the movement running your Federal Reserve.
And they're printing dollars the way they print narratives relentlessly and with zero accountability.
Every dollar they print is a quiet tax on the dollars that you have already earned.
Think about that.
You worked for it.
You sacrificed for it.
You did everything right.
And they are diluting your reward in real time with a keystroke.
Every late night, every skipped holiday, every hour you chose work over comfort so your family wouldn't have to struggle.
Dust.
That is not mismanagement.
That is ideology in action.
And deep down at 3 a.m., you already know it.
The forgotten men and women of this country always do.
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They cannot subpoena it out of existence.
It operates on mathematical law, not political will.
That's precisely why the same establishment media that covers for every Democrat scandal has spent years telling you crypto is dangerous.
An asset they cannot manipulate is a citizen they cannot manage.
And that's why President Trump made a promise that the radical left financial establishment never saw coming to make America the crypto capital of the world.
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Migration As Colonization00:11:04
I was in Budapest this past weekend to speak at CPAC, Budapest.
One of the most electrifying speeches there was given by the Dutch right-wing activist Eva Vlardingerbrook.
I sat down with Eva to talk about her core themes: migration, remigration, and the Islamic element.
Eva, we're in Budapest for CPAC, Hungary, and you've spoken about how Europe, the greatest civilization in world history, is being systematically erased.
How is that happening?
Oh, it's happening through mass immigration.
Now, as we're speaking, there are thousands of people coming in through our borders, and we oftentimes have no idea who they are.
And this has been going on for decades now.
We've seen that in Europe, the population has been replaced and changed drastically in a very, very short time span.
When I was just on stage right now, I quoted two statistics, which are conservative estimates, that in Europe, the past 50 years alone, 80 million immigrants have entered our continent.
You know, that's something that you can't expect to happen and then have no consequences whatsoever.
And I think that everyone who is either older than me, you know, has seen that change even more drastically, or people in my age group or even younger, we almost haven't really known any better, but we experience the disadvantages and the consequences of it.
What's puzzling to me is it's not strange to me that people from the third world would want to kind of break their way in here, right?
It's a more developed society.
It offers more opportunities.
It's beautiful continent.
Do you think the decision to third worldize Europe was a decision made by Europeans?
And why did they do that?
Well, it was not made by the population of the different populations in Europe, democratically speaking.
I can tell you that.
I mean, even in the 1980s, for example, in the Netherlands, there were polls being done that showed that the vast majority of the Dutch did not want mass migration.
And then, of course, after the 80s, we had much more immigration than they probably even could have imagined at the time.
And this has been consistently the case.
Now we're at a point where in almost every single Northwestern European country, obviously the countries that were hit the hardest by mass immigration, 90%, 80%, 70%, those are about the ranges of those nations are saying, no, we don't want this.
We want to halt all immigration to our nations.
Yet nothing seems to really be changing in most of these countries.
And of course, we don't have to look very far to find answers as to why that is happening.
We have a supranational organization, the European Union, that is deciding many of these things for us because their laws take precedence over our national laws in most of the legal systems in Europe.
So you have this organization of unelected bureaucrats that have the power to make these types of decisions against the will of the people, essentially.
So I very often say, look, you know, we talk about democracy all the time, but what does that really mean when your own lawmakers are not in charge?
Do you think that the ideology of the EU and then also the countless NGOs that are associated with it is based upon the idea that Europe is this wonderful place to which we are trying to assimilate all these non-Western people?
That's the benign view, right?
Or do you think it's more something like this?
Europe is an evil civilization that has colonized the world and deserves to be punished for its sins.
And we are using this migration as an effort to almost colonize Europe.
Yes, I think it's the latter, exactly.
I think that at least the people who are doing this do it because of that reason.
There is a type of trauma in Europe, especially after the Second World War that has caused huge white guilt.
It has made it basically impossible to have any type of normal discussion about what it means to be European, as I just tried to do on stage.
What does that mean?
Can we completely factor something like ethnicity out of the equation?
I think that at this point in time where we are now, you can't because the demographic change is so enormous that we are becoming a minority soon.
And as you can see, you can't just magically unwind that completely from things like culture and faith, religion.
You know, it's a fallacy.
I think that those people have benefited greatly from maybe people with good intentions who more so have that benign view that you just described, you know, of people who think, no, but we have a moral obligation to help people in need.
You know, and I'm a Catholic, I'm a Christian, I believe that as well.
But there are limits to that.
You can do that in a charitable way for a short period in time in which people actually do need that help.
And then, you know, after, let's say, that conflict is over, you can say, okay, well, now it's time for you to go back to your own country and rebuild your nation to which you have a moral obligation to pass it on and protect it, right?
And we all have that.
And so that is for me the most important topic right now in European politics because we are getting to a point where soon we don't have a nation left to protect.
We don't have a European civilization left to protect because we will be outnumbered.
I thought it was remarkable that you did not shy away from defending, I would call it white identity.
And I think what you're saying is that Europe is a civilization made by white people and all of its history, its culture is part of that.
And so because there has been certainly in the West a certain deep reluctance to defend white ethnicity.
In other words, every other minority affirms its ethnicity and you have black pride and brown pride and so on.
Exactly.
Are you saying in part that it's only necessary and inevitable in that environment that whites do need to say, I'm white and I'm proud of it?
Yeah, I think at least that there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
So just as you described, you know, everywhere in the world, that seems to be a normal thing.
People don't see that as strange.
You know, the idea that Africans are proud of their respective nations or that Asians say we want Asia to remain Asian, you know, all of that seems as totally normal, whereas here in Europe, it is not.
It is demonized.
You know, you get labeled every single bad name in the book, let's say.
And that, of course, boils back down to that trauma of the Second World War that we are talking about.
I think that people have started to equate, let's say, being white with something evil such as the Holocaust to happen, or even less extreme than that, there are people in power who seem to want to make people believe that everything that is traditional, or Christian, or conservative, or patriotic, or identitarian, that that is wrong,
and that that type of pride or even just acceptance of who you are and where you come from, that that leads to terrible things.
And I think that now we've gone so much the other way.
And the terrible things that are happening in front of our noses every single day are being buried by the same people who push these policies.
And we shouldn't accept that anymore.
Do you think that Islamic immigration poses a special kind of problem?
In other words, there's the problem of migration generally, right?
It would be difficult for any country to take a large number of Indians or Guyanese for that matter.
But is there something unique about the Islamic penetration and infiltration of Europe?
It's also happening, of course, in Australia and Canada and in the United States, the mushrooming of mosques all over the place and so on.
Does that pose a special threat that's worth identifying?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that we can see that looking realistically as what has happened in Europe.
I mean, the religious and cultural differences are so stark.
You know, they're so opposite from each other, Christianity and Islam in that sense.
We've seen the consequences of that.
And a lot of Europeans already seem to kind of, I don't know, have become numb to that or forgotten about it.
But I haven't forgotten about the series, endless series of terror attacks that we witnessed in Europe, especially when we had the first migrant crisis in 2015.
You know, in those days, it was almost every week in the news was another terror attack.
And now, even though maybe we see those a bit less, you know, let's say the subjugation or the submission of the Christian white population in Europe is even further ahead than it was back then.
And you have children who are going on trips to mosques, bowing down to Allah, even though they never set foot in the church.
You know, and those types of things, again, I think there are people who know exactly why they're doing that, and because they carry a deep hatred, you could say that, for everything that is originally European.
So therefore, for, of course, its foundation, Christianity.
And there are people who think that, no, that that's just a nice thing to do to understand, you know, another religion better, another culture.
But I think that we're very, very much past that stage.
Last question, very briefly.
In the United States, there is a pioneer spirit.
In Texas, there's the phrase, come and take it.
It sometimes seems from the American vantage point that the Europeans have given up, that they're decadent in the sense that they are reconciled to defeat, to being dissolved, to being undermined.
Do you think there's enough fight in Europe?
I mean, you have it.
Are you hopeful or confident that there's enough in the continent that the people of Europe will take their countries back?
There is enough, but it has to be awakened.
And so that's why I constantly tell people, do not get demoralized.
Because the moment that you do, the moment that you say, no, it's too difficult, it's too hard, we won't get it done, we can't do something like re-migration, you know, then it really is over.
You might as well just give up the fight now.
But the thing is, is that this can be solved because something that I would really love to avoid is that this gets more violent.
Awakening European Strength00:03:42
And with the current demographic replacement, I think there are many experts who have said for many years now, watch out, this is going to lead to civil war.
If we want to avoid that, and I think it's either that or it's a silent takeover, then there's another option and that is remigration, which a large part of that can be done completely voluntarily.
It might cost us a bit of money, but mass immigration to the Western world is costing us a lot of money as it is.
And I think that even the matter of financial cost at this point should be inferior to the cultural costs.
Because civilization itself is at stake.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Eva, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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SEPAC Budapest was a huge event which attracted an audience of conservatives from all over Europe and around the world.
I met the Hungarian Prime Minister, Victor Orbán, Javier Malay, the President of Argentina, Alice Weidel, head of the right-wing AFD party in Germany.
They just won a big regional election.
And Santiago Abascal, head of the Conservative Vox Party in Spain.
My own event was a conversation with Balazs Orban, political director for Viktor Orban, who is spearheading the Prime Minister's re-election campaign.
Shish, Christiane, Lentulay, thank you very much.
But let's just move on, because we are joined by an American political commentator and documentary filmmaker who consistently presents political debates to the public in the form of narratives, not merely making claims, but building stories.
Thank you, Karin.
And here at SEPAC, Hungary, the political director and campaign manager of the Hungarian Prime Minister is also present.
So please welcome Dinesh D'Souza and Balazs Orban.
Hello, everybody.
Hello everybody.
I'm Dinesh D'Souza and I am an author and a scholar and a filmmaker in the United States.
And I want to begin a conversation by saying a few words about what is happening in America, but also to try to describe this crisis that we are dealing with in its broadest terms.
Lost Western Principles00:15:58
If we think historically, Western civilization has dominated the world for the past 500 years.
Prior to that, there was a sort of rivalry of multiple civilizations.
You had the Indian civilization, the Chinese civilization, the civilization of the Americas, Islamic civilization.
And Western civilization was, quite honestly, a bit of a relative backwater compared to some of these other civilizations.
But this began to change starting around the year 1500.
And what has happened since then is the leadership of the West has shifted.
So the 16th century belonged to the Portuguese, the 17th century to the Spanish, the 18th century to the French, the 19th century to the British, and in the 20th century, the United States of America became the frontline representative and defender of the West.
There is currently, in my view, a massive effort to undo these 500 years of history, to ultimately overturn Western superiority and to structure the world in a different way.
What is particularly strange is that this attack on the West is not merely coming from the outside, but it is also being promoted from the inside.
In other words, some of the deadliest enemies of Western civilization are inside Western civilization.
And in fact, the progressive left is the vanguard and the enabler of the campaign to bring down the West and to end the era of Western historical superiority.
Now in the United States, we have this phrase, make America great again.
And I want to reflect on that for a moment as to what that actually means.
And then I want to ask Balasz to comment about what does it mean for Hungary?
What does it mean for Europe?
Make America Great Again is a reference to the ideals that shaped America, particularly the ideals of the American Constitution.
But if you were to try to put this in a very concrete way, my mind flashes back to when Ronald Reagan first ran for the presidency in 1980.
He said, I'm running to protect five things.
He said, first, I'm running to defend the idea of the individual.
And if we think about it, the idea of the individual, of individuality, is a Western invention.
The idea that each of our lives has a unique significance and a unique destiny.
This is a Western idea.
So number one is the idea of the individual.
Number two, the idea of the nuclear or traditional family.
Number three, the church.
Number four, the local community, the neighborhood and civic life at the local level.
And number five, the country, which is to say patriotism, which is to say the nation.
So conservatism, when we use the phrase conservatism, what are we trying to conserve?
We are trying to conserve those five things.
Who is against those things?
Well, the two most aggressive forces against those things are number one, radical Islam, and number two, the progressive left.
Now, what's interesting about these two groups is that they have completely different endpoints.
They don't inhabit each other's worlds very comfortably.
But even though their final destination is very different, their intermediate enemy is the same.
They are united in a hatred of the principles of the West.
They are united in a hatred of the individual, the family, the church, the local community, and the idea of patriotism and nationalism.
If the radical Muslims hate these things, the progressive left hates them just as much, if not more.
And so, in my view, this is what there is, there's been a coordinated global left for a long time, very well organized, very much in touch with each other across the world.
There's only emerging now for the first time that I see it, a global right.
We're only seeing offshoots of it, but it is developing.
And what I'd like to explore with you, if I may, is how do you see the role of Europe in general, but specifically Hungary, in fighting this global struggle?
Well, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
It's a privilege to be here.
Yes, you have to know that we Hungarians are, I would say we are quite a special species because we do not want to save the world.
We just want to protect Hungary as it is and as it was and as it should remain and should be in the future.
This is our ultimate goal.
So we Hungarian politicians on the patriotic side, we think that our first and foremost responsibility is to defend the interests of our people.
And I'm also leading an educational and talent management institution, and I try to convince the very talented, very bright students that they should understand the world, they should explore the world, but they should focus on the domestic issues.
If they learn biology, they should help to save the domestic species, animals, or creatures, because no one else would do that.
If all the Hungarians are focusing on the universalist things, focusing on things which are happening outside the continent, outside different sides of different parts of the world, then who will focus on things which are actually matters for those people who are living here.
So I think this mindset is very much relevant and very much important for the patriotic forces everywhere, especially here in Hungary and Europe.
We need political leadership which takes responsibility in line with the need and the interest of those people who are electing them.
Because we cannot rely on the liberals because the liberals follow very different principles as you were saying.
They have universalist beliefs which turned out to be devastating beliefs.
They say it's about freedom, but it turns out it's about letting invaders in.
And so it's a lie.
It's something which is actually not benefiting the people of the Western nations, but actually undermining their future.
So what we realized is that if we don't stick together, we nationalist patriotic political forces in the West, then sooner or later the liberals will overtake us and destroy each and every nation.
And then we are in trouble.
So then we started to open up a little bit, still focusing on our domestic issues, but opening up a little bit and trying to find partners and friends.
And this is why we are extremely grateful to have you and all the European and American people from everywhere to come to visit in Hungary, discuss things, sticking together and trying to create a movement which can make us very proud.
So my question for you would be what's going on in the United States?
Because we need in the United States an American leadership which is saving actually the great people of the United States.
And I hope we will have and we will that leadership will remain in Hungary, which is the first and foremost important goal is to save the great people of Hungary.
What's going on in the United States is that by some strange turn of providence, the United States has produced a leader in Trump.
I think it's fair to say that when God made Donald Trump, he threw away the mold.
By that I mean this is a very unique character who is now at the helm in the United States, unlike any other president, in almost every way.
The power of Trump, I think, is that he represents something in the American spirit, which is a pioneer spirit.
It is a spirit that distrusts bureaucratic obfuscation.
You know, if a normal American president goes to a meeting, they come out with the usual boilerplate.
Like, we had an interesting meeting, we made significant progress, we expressed our concerns, blah, This is not Trump.
You know, Trump will come out of meeting with Kim Jong-un and he will say, you know, that guy is really short.
You know, and Trump will say something like, I was tempted to put my glass on his head.
And he wanted to know why I call him Rocket Man.
You know, now, what I'm getting at is the sophisticated people will laugh and they will go, look at Trump, he's such an idiot.
But what Trump is doing, which is very important, I think, is he is putting you in the room.
He is showing you, I'm going to take you behind the curtain.
I'm going to show you how these things actually function face to face.
Now, from the vantage point of the United States, Europe appears to have lost its nerve.
Looking at Europe generically, it seems to have lost its fighting spirit.
It is not the Europe of Walter Raleigh.
It's not the Europe of Winston Churchill anymore.
It's almost like when I visited Venice some years ago, they were telling me that when the Venetians were surpassed by the Spanish in building ships, they invented carnival.
Carnival is a way of saying that we are finished, we're never coming up again, let's have a party.
We are in decline and we have to get used to it.
So to me, the importance of Hungary is you've got this little outpost in Europe with a great history.
And I hope I see it in Orban and I see it in the Hungarian people.
The importance of the Hungarian election for me is it is an attempt to show that in Europe, the continent is not finished.
In Europe, these core principles of the individual, the family, the community, the country are still important.
If you're willing to fight for them, there are probably going to be some people in Denmark and the Netherlands and France.
And I don't know, France is maybe too far gone, but you might be able to help revive Europe because right now Europe is breathing down your neck.
I'm thinking here of the bureaucracy of the EU.
And hopefully you can find some allies in the United States and elsewhere to help you in this EU attempt to squash out your movement and dissolve you into this progressive European bureaucracy, which would be the death of Hungary and the death of Europe.
Don't worry, Dinesh, we have a plan.
We are going to win the elections.
Then we are going to restore Central European patriotic cooperation.
And then we will demolish the Brazilian bureaucrats and take over Brussels and restore Europe of nations.
That's our goal.
Quite simple.
We will have a couple more time to cheat.
Yes.
No, that would be good.
Let's conclude very briefly with a word about Ukraine.
If you have a word to say about it, I'll maybe then wrap it up.
Well, it's not an easy situation.
We have to be very honest.
It was mentioned in the previous discussions as well.
They have their goals, we have our goals.
The problem is that what Ukraine wants, it goes against the interest of Hungary.
It's so simple.
They want something from us which is not good for our people.
So we are Hungarian politicians, so we don't want to support, the Hungarian people do not want to support the war.
They do not want to be in the same union with Ukraine, and they want to use cheap energy.
That's so simple.
So, yes, that's a black and white question.
Either their interest will succeed or our interests will be protected.
So, what we are preparing for is we are going to, we are not looking for any kind of confrontation, but we have to be able to protect our interests because that's our duty.
Looking at it from the U.S. point of view, there's a very important difference between Russia and, say, Iran.
The Russia, Putin, is somebody who is aggressively defending the Russian interests, as he should, but he is not threatening the world with a revolutionary ideology anchored in martyrdom that seeks ultimately and in fact proclaims death to America, death to the West,
that is attacking us not merely ideologically, but also with a certain type of religious zeal.
One of the striking things about Islam to me today is it has not lost the force of its original revelation.
It's almost as if it has the same fire today that it had in the seventh century.
Christianity, on the other hand, is not.
So I think that the reason that Iran poses a threat and the United States is dealing with it along with Israel is because this is something that is a menace not just to Irani and the Iranian people, but also to the region.
The Iranians are active in Venezuela, they're active in Mexico and South America.
The threat ultimately is reaching us in a way that the Russia-Ukraine war is not.
And so I think in foreign policy, you have to make a distinction between countries that are pursuing their own national interests, this is to be expected, and revolutionary ideologies that would, if they could, not let any of us sleep peacefully at night.
And with that, thank you for joining me, Balashan.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Goodbye.
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Then another sign appeared in heaven.
An enormous red dragon.
Once again, an armed attack in the Middle East.
But this time, it's different.
October 7th was the devil's holiday.
It's very hard to believe what happened, even though I was there and seen with my own eyes and seen them laughing and killing and having fun with it.
Because if you don't open the door, they are going to kill you and they are going to kill me, so please open the door.
So who are the Jews?
Who are the Palestinians?
And whose land is it really?
Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?
The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation.
So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?
The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy attacking a woman representing Israel.
The civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.
Mastered everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.
We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life and we're going to keep it.
The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God.
Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.
If we're approaching the end of time, God will reveal himself more and more dramatically.
Speak back through the stones.
The story that they've been telling is that Israel is a colonial project.
The problem with that is the city of David.
We are an inconvenient truth.
Are you aware of any significant archaeological finding that contradicts the Bible?
Nope.
God's word stands firm.
The dragon will not prevail.
Your message here is become a dragon slayer.
That's it.
Based on Jonathan Kahn's number one international bestseller, The Dragon's Prophecy.