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The times are crazy.
In a time of confusion, division, and lies.
We need a brave voice of reason, understanding, and truth.
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Well, guys, it is that time of year, the end of a big year, 2025, and also the dawn of a new one, which I think will be equally significant and important for the country.
We want to wish you, Debbie, and I, a happy new year.
And we also want to thank you for hanging with us this past year.
I do have a big announcement to make.
And it may come as a bit of a surprise for those of you who have been daily regular listeners and viewers of the podcast.
So there's going to be a change.
We're actually closing out.
I'm closing out with this podcast as of today.
It becomes my last kind of official podcast.
And after doing it for five years, it's very bittersweet because I've enjoyed doing the podcast.
I hope you've enjoyed listening to it.
Debbie, of course, has been a very big part of it.
So this has been a joint venture for us.
But I do want to say that the show must go on and it is going on.
So I've worked out with Salem a kind of handoff.
And by that, I mean that there is a new podcast that is going to begin early in 2026.
And my daughter, Danielle, Danielle D'Souza Gill, is going to sort of take it over.
By that, I mean she's going to be doing a four-day a week podcast Tuesday through Friday.
And in many ways, maintaining a continuity with this podcast, because while her podcast will be on her channels, it will also be on my channel.
So, if you want to pick right up with the new podcast, you don't have to do anything.
It's going to be exactly where you get this podcast.
Essentially, it's a smooth transition from my podcast to hers.
And not only that, but she's asked me to be a kind of guest on her podcast on a pretty regular basis, probably one day a week.
I will be her main kind of interlocutor, and the two of us will be covering issues of the day and issues of the week.
So, I'm hardly going away.
I'll be resurfacing now on the Danielle DeSusa Gill podcast.
And further, I'm launching a new show.
Now, this show is outside of this particular channel.
It's going to be a once-a-week show just called Dinesh or the Dinesh Show.
And it's going to begin probably the middle of January.
We're just kind of getting the launch date pegged down.
And that show is going to be, well, we're essentially constructing a home studio.
So it will be done.
It'll be a highly produced show, by the way.
And it'll have a different spin and a different thrust than what I've been doing before.
I think you'll be excited to see it.
And it is something that will be launched and will be featured on Monday nights.
It'll be posted Monday night prime time with some previews coming right before that.
So that's the big news from our end.
And like I say, it's, you know, it's a mixed bag for us because, you know, we, gosh, we've been at this now.
You told me, how many episodes have we done over the past?
This will be 1,240 episodes.
So if you look at each podcast, podcasts are a little short of an hour in content.
They're about 50 minutes.
But of course, you remember that early podcasts were preposterously long.
I think the first one went, it didn't go two hours, but it was like well over an hour.
Yeah, it was an hour and 13 minutes.
Yeah, and we had like 11 segments.
And then we realized that we are kind of going a little bit overboard.
But talk a little bit about how this all got started.
Well, as you recall, we went through, well, everybody went through COVID.
And we were kind of just at home sitting there.
And I don't know where I got the idea, but I was like thinking, you know, since we're home, stuck at home for a while, maybe you're not going to be speaking much, you know, at places.
Maybe we should just start our own podcast.
I mean, it is true.
I was doing a blizzard of speaking in the few years before that.
And in fact, this is all very interesting, even from the point of view of our marriage, because we're closing in, you know, on 10 years of marriage in 2026.
And we've been doing the podcast five years.
So it's actually at the midpoint of our 10 years.
So the first five years, as you know, you know, I was doing a lot of events for the GOP and I was doing some campus events.
And COVID shut all that down.
And so I think that was it.
We were thinking about, hmm, and then you floated the idea.
And I remember how I was very startled because you're like, if you want to do a podcast, you said, I'll produce it.
Yeah.
And I had no idea what that meant.
I just thought, well, how hard can it be?
I was a school teacher.
I produce my lesson plans.
Well, you know, how hard can it be?
So I think I was really startled the very first day.
Well, we contracted with a local studio.
And at the time, Brian Falcon was the technical producer.
And I basically said, hey, Brian, what do you think of this format?
And Brian's like, okay, I guess we can try it.
And I remember the very first day.
And we have a clip, by the way, coming up of that very first episode.
Our first show.
The funny thing is, Dinesh did like the first hour.
And then I came on at the end of that hour for another 15 minutes with Dinesh.
But anyway, it took me 14 hours to come up with the assets to put in for the podcast.
And I thought to myself, okay, this is my first day on the job and my last day on the job.
I was really wanting to not do it, you know, keep doing it.
And admittedly, and this is somewhat humorous, I don't know how seriously, but you have offered to quit on a regular basis in the intervening five years.
You're like, okay, I'm done.
Yeah.
And then this morning I go, honey, I'm really sad.
You're like, but you've wanted to quit since day one.
Right.
Well, but yeah.
You know, it is a, I think we had a fairly, I won't say nomadic lifestyle.
We weren't exactly like Abraham with his tent.
But what I mean is we had a fluid lifestyle because speeches come, you travel here, raising money, movie premieres, production sets, where we had a lot of activity going on, but we didn't have a set discipline daily quote job.
And the thing about this is that we still do those things plus this.
Yeah, and I think this is really, you know, some people may wonder, like, why are you making a change here?
It's really twofold.
One is, of course, that with our other projects, and we're taking on some big new ones for 2026, the idea of combining those, like just think about the, just, say, marketing of a movie or going somewhere to shoot a film for 10 days.
Well, what happens to the podcast in those 10 days?
And so then, so we realized that we're, in some ways, it was pegging us down and making it difficult to fully execute some of these other projects.
So let's go down memory lane real quick and do a clip of the very first show.
Here we go.
We not only have political power, but we have enough cultural and corporate power to prevent you from having any channel.
We're going to shut you down no matter what.
We are going to put a tape around your mouth.
Google Chavez did that to any station, radio station, TV station that opposed him.
He shut them down.
Let me leave you with this thought for today, and that is that we think of free speech as being important because it is the route, the means, the pathway to truth.
And it is.
Our institutions wouldn't really function without it.
Think of it.
You can't arrive at an academic pursuit of truth without free discussion.
You can't scientifically test hypotheses and develop theories if you don't have an atmosphere of free exchange of ideas.
Our legal institutions would collapse if you couldn't have the adversary system of law.
One guy makes the case, the prosecution makes the case, the defense gets to say the other side.
If you could shut up the other side, our whole legal system would become a show trial.
It would become a charade.
So when you read Jon Stuart Mill, when you read The Champions of Free Speech, they emphasize this aspect of freedom of speech.
This is why we need free speech.
But I want to add a second one, which is very rarely, I don't know if I've ever seen it really discussed in detail.
And that is that free speech diffuses political extremism.
It is not a cause of violence.
It is a way of providing an alternative to violence.
Why?
Because when people feel frustrated, when they feel even paranoid, when they feel angry, free speech is a way to blow off steam.
We all know in normal life, if you get to yell at somebody and say, you did this, you did that to me, you were wrong in doing this.
And then you go, wow, I got that off my chest.
You know what?
I feel better.
The words allow me to express the feeling, and the feeling then isn't looking for some other more dangerous channel to then vent itself through action or takeovers or storming this or knocking down that.
And by the way, the left has been doing a lot of knocking down of its own.
They've been doing a lot of violence and the violence has been defended and approved on their side.
Wow.
I mean, what that shows me is that it was a different era.
Freedom of speech was very much a thing.
We were talking about it.
Remember, they had just shut Parlor down.
You know, Google was censoring us left and right.
We couldn't talk about the election.
I was getting strikes on Facebook for posting the most innocuous posts.
And even if a post turned out to be true, at one point I defended Kyle Rittenhouse, for example.
They basically had labeled him a very dangerous individual.
So they were like, they gave me a strike for exalting a very dangerous individual.
Then he's acquitted and I appeal it.
And they go, well, it doesn't matter that he's been acquitted now because at the time he hadn't been acquitted and he was a very dangerous.
But this is the mentality that we were dealing with.
Utterly authoritarian, brutish, ugly, weird.
And so we have to remember that, you know, even though that air has cleared now, these people like Mark Zuckerberg, they're untrustworthy.
They're human robots.
Yeah.
They're freacoids.
And these people will sell the country down the river if the circumstances.
In other words, what I'm getting at is that the true character of people like and the characters are different.
Like I think of Jack Dorsey, I don't think he actually approved of the censorship, but he was a weakling and a yogi.
And he was somewhere in the Himalayas or in Tibet or in Thailand.
And these two Indian sidekicks, Parag Agarwal, and you might remember the other one, Vijay Agadi, they were running the censorship machine.
They're basically like two Indian despots sitting at, you know, at what was then called Twitter.
And so, but boy, that was, that was a, that was a rocky period with Biden.
I was very worried about the fate of the country.
It was scary.
And, you know, we're going to show a clip.
This is actually one of my favorite guests that we've ever had on.
And I'm going to get a little sentimental because he just passed away Christmas Eve.
And his name is Dr. Neil Frank.
He is by far, I feel in my lifetime, the most, I guess, amazing individual when it comes to hurricanes and hurricane weather advisory.
You know, the cone of uncertainty, I believe, was one of his inventions.
He just, he really was an amazing person, an amazing meteorologist.
Founder, by the way, of the National Hurricane Center.
He wasn't founder.
I believe he was the director or director of the National Hurricane Center.
But anyway, the funny thing is that he was a huge fan of yours.
And when I found that out, I was like, oh, this is perfect.
You can bring him on to talk about hurricanes.
In fact, he and his wife came to our house.
We chatted for a bit.
He got, you know, and I was a little concerned because the studio is upstairs.
And I thought, you know, he was 90 years old at the time.
And I thought, oh, my goodness, he's not going to be able to climb those stairs.
Oh, he climbed them better than we did.
He was amazing.
I was saying to you, you were like, I remember you saying, Dr. Frank, do you think it's going to be okay to climb the stairs?
You think you might need some assistance?
And he goes, Debbie, I can run up those stairs.
Yes, I remember that.
And the thing about him, he's also a very brave man because he was bringing his enormous expertise.
Yes.
And he spoke out against a lot of this climate.
So there's a little clip of the show, and I really urge you to, it's actually on Rumble because that is another thing that happened is we had to take it off the internet.
Let's talk about that in a second.
We'll talk about it on YouTube.
Yeah, but here's a clip of Dr. Neil Frank talking to Dinesh about the cooling of the planet and the warming of the planet.
The top graph shows the temperature in the northern hemisphere as determined by ice core samples out of Greenland.
The bottom of the graph shows the carbon dioxide levels during this 10,000 year period.
Now, why are we looking at 10,000 years?
We know from past data that the Earth goes through cycles.
We have 100,000 years of an ice age, 10,000 years of a warm period.
So we are in this 10,000-year warm period.
And so at the top of the graph, you can see that there's a thousand-year cycle in these peaks.
Here we are right over here at the right.
So here, this graph is going years before now.
Right.
So this is actually 10,000 years ago.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
So you can, if carbon dioxide was the cause of these peaks up here, we'd ought to see these peaks down here.
They're not there.
In other words, you're saying that the carbon dioxide levels would have to sort of match the point of these graphs for this to be the cause of this.
That's right.
But in fact, what we see is carbon dioxide levels really, of course, not surprisingly rising in the last couple of, you know, hundred years, certainly, and rising over with mankind's time on the planet.
But it doesn't match this at all.
As a matter of fact, it's just the opposite.
Look at this.
Seven, eight, thousand years ago, the northern hemisphere was probably two to three degrees warmer than it is today.
Here we are over here to the right, right?
Yes, exactly.
Carbon dioxide levels at the early part of this 10,000 year were low in the lower 200s.
And then as the Earth cooled off, carbon dioxide levels rise.
Well, that's just the opposite of what we're being told.
Now, you know, there's an interesting sort of postscript to this story.
Yes.
And it actually involves, it involves censorship.
It involves YouTube.
It involves Venezuela.
Talk a little bit about how what happened subsequent.
This was an excellent show.
In fact, so good that more than one person contacted us and wanted to get the video links so that they could share them.
And this has been played a whole bunch of places, even outside the orbit of the podcast.
But talk about what happened because climate change was one of the handful of issues that kind of got you censored.
It wasn't the one about with my Venezuelan friend, though.
This was not it.
It was COVID.
It was Dr. Fauci.
I think you're forgetting that.
That's right, okay.
But this one actually was followed up after that because what happened was all of a sudden, YouTube had all of this criteria that these things.
This will get kicked off.
This will, if you talk about the election, the fraudulent election, we're going to take you off the air.
If you talk about COVID and Dr. Fauci, we're going to take you off the air.
And by the way, when they say take you off the air, you know, you take years to build up a channel.
My YouTube channel, currently, what, 800,000?
But it was, it had a lot then.
And so they basically just blast you out of the water, and there go all your followers.
And so what you've built up over years gets essentially vaporized in a moment.
And you're right.
With after January 6th, that election fraud was the number one pretext, then COVID, and then they added on four or five other topics, of which I think the trans was one.
The fans.
Well, that came a little later, but abortion.
Well, yeah, abortion was one of them, but climate change was right after COVID.
It was a big one.
Yeah, all of a sudden they said there is no debating climate change.
Right.
Man-made climate change is the real deal.
And if you have any expert that says otherwise, we're not going to allow it.
And so we were like, really?
I mean, Dr. Neil Frank knows more about hurricanes than anybody on YouTube.
You know, come on.
So anyway, so we left it on Rumble.
And we had to unfortunately take it off of YouTube because we were just at that point afraid.
Well, more than afraid, we had been tipped off.
Now, as you say, it was not directly in this connection, but we were tipped off by a guy who didn't work for YouTube, but he worked at one of these consulting firms.
So essentially, what YouTube would do, and I believe Facebook the same, they would hire these consulting firms to review posts, pretending like this is a neutral body making these decisions.
Of course, YouTube supplied all the guidelines and basically said, carry out these rules, but it gave them plausible deniability.
I mean, the whole apparatus just puts such a bad taste in your mouth now when you remember that we lived through all this and we were just part of this regime and it was right here in America.
And so, and no one, by the way, has really been held accountable for it.
These people deserve to be severely punished.
And I would love to see the government go after these operations because they are very tyrannical in their mindset and not just in the way they think.
They actually carry these things out.
That's right.
So I'm really glad, though, that we have this show with Dr. Frank because, you know, he was one of a kind and his legacy will live on.
He was 94 years old when he passed away on Christmas Eve.
So our condolences to his family and his TV family because he was with KHOU Channel 11 for 21 years.
And I told you, we were in the car and I said, you know, honey, he came on in 1987 at KHOU and I started watching him in 1989.
Wow.
So I watched him for, you know, 20 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was my go-to person.
Every time we had a hurricane coming or a storm or snow, I would go to Dr. Frank to find out what was going to happen.
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When I think over the five years and the different guests that we've had, a few names just jump out.
Now, you probably have a couple that you can think of as well.
Of course, we had Trump, although Trump, if you remember, did an audio with the show.
So he called in.
And that was very, very good to have.
Of course, I did the special with Ned and Yahoo, in which we used a few minutes in the dragon's prophecy, but then we had the full conversation here on the show.
JD Vance has been on.
Has he been more than once?
He was on, I think, a couple of times, but I always mention this to you because, you know, I feel like I'm a little prophetic.
But after Clairvoyant, after he came on, I sent him an email and I said, you know, and he hadn't even run for Senate yet.
He was not a politician.
He was more of an author.
He was promoting the Netflix special on hill bibliology.
Right.
Right.
And so he came on to talk about that.
And I emailed him and I said, you know, have you ever thought about maybe running for office?
Because you, I think you're presidential material.
I never thought that he would be VP.
I mean, you know, I was kind of sort of making.
Well, I think what you were saying is that he had the bravitas.
He had the eloquence.
And that, you know, I think you also thought correctly that his background is very telling here.
If one of the great challenges of our country is to undo the injustice of the last 40 years in which the large chunks of our working class have been essentially not disenfranchised, but isolated from the American dream and suffered not just financially, but culturally, spiritually, all kinds of ways.
I mean, who better to write the ship, at least in theory, than a guy who grew up in Appalachia?
I mean, I don't think it's a credential that your grandmother set your grandfather on fire, you know, or that your mom is, your mom is a chronic drug addict.
But my point is, he grew up in the most desolate of circumstances and he made something of his life.
Yeah.
So he's a success story who knows.
I think I haven't forgotten where he came from.
Also, we had my debate on the show with Bill Ayers.
Oh, yeah, that was at the very beginning.
Bill Ayers was very, he thought, hey, he's debated you before many times.
Why not?
He came on the air.
It was a really long episode.
I remember it was one of the longest episodes we've ever done.
I think it was one and a half hours, maybe, even maybe even a little longer.
But it was a really good one.
And then, do you remember we also had Sidney Powell, and she got her time zones confused.
And we waited for her for about an hour.
Oh, that's right.
It was really funny.
So she was on before all of that Dominion stuff started happening.
And of course, Mike Lindell, who can forget Mike Lindell?
Mike Lindell is such a character.
Oh, goodness.
Well, we didn't know Mike Lindell.
We haven't known him for we met him a little before the podcast started.
That's right.
And I remember we were in town and we went to an Italian restaurant, if you remember, near our house.
And so this man comes in, and of course, very recognizable and he knew who we were.
But he sat down and then and then he spoke for 30 minutes straight, right?
We didn't say a word.
We just listened.
And we were like, then we looked at each other like, this guy's a major character.
And he really is.
Now, do you know?
I think he's going to run for governor.
Yeah.
And I hope he wins because Mr. Tim.
Well, he would certainly be, I mean, talk about the disaster of Walls.
Wow.
And we'll talk about that later.
Yeah.
Well, but Mike, you know, we want to say one thing about this, and that is that when you start a podcast, normally, you know, the podcast takes months, sometimes a year to gain traction, to gain advertisers.
And so I think we were a little worried that it would take us a long time to kind of get off the ground.
Because he was our only sponsor.
Right.
We had one advertiser.
Mike Lindell.
Sponsored by My Pillow.
And sponsored by Opill.
Can I do like four or five MyPillow ads in one podcast?
Five ads in one podcast.
For the same advertiser.
And but because election fraud was such a big issue and Mike Lindell was so invisible, we actually sold a preposterous number of pillows and bed sheets and everything else.
Towels.
And in fact, I think Mike Lindell called us at one point and said something like, you are like the leading salesman of my pillow, like in the world.
Yeah.
And then I got a little worried and I was like, Dinesh, are you going to become sham wow?
No, that's been, that's actually been one of one of your regular warnings.
Every time we basically sign an advertiser, you're like, let's not go too far in the sham wow direction.
But you know, the and here is the other thing.
I never really understood.
Commercials always kind of like, I would fast forward or whatever.
But if it's a free podcast, that is the only way that the podcaster gets revenue.
And not only the podcaster, but I mean, Sale of Media.
We're in this professional studio right here.
We have people who upload the podcast.
We have people who cut clips.
So there is an economy under a podcast.
And it doesn't have, well, unless you charge subscriptions.
That's one way to fund a podcast.
Other ways to basically have ads.
And so, although occasionally people are like, Well, you know, you have too many ads, the truth of it is the ads kind of keep the show going.
Very similar, by the way, to the old television shows where the advertising basically pays the bills and you couldn't really fund the show without it.
And the other advertiser that has stuck with us for five years is Balance of Nature.
That's right.
So, thank you, Balance of Nature, for keeping us on the air and your great products.
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I'm sure they'll be pretty active next year in the 250.
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Let's talk about this past year because Trump's first year.
You know, we started by talking about the absolutely perverse direction in which the Biden administration was leading us.
Of course, we all remember all of it.
We made Police State to capture the tyranny of those years.
It's just downright amusing how you now have news reports that say things like Trump is actually going after his political opponents.
I mean, we just shake our heads as if to say, were you not here for the past four years?
Were you living in a dream world?
Is this some kind of gaslighting that you're and it is, right?
What else can you say?
I think one very good thing that's developed in this past year, it's not Trump's leading accomplishment.
It's one of those quiet things that, and that is that I think that people are just paying less attention to the mainstream media.
Look at the Somali fraud scandal.
They're not even in it.
True, the New York Times covered it, but nobody really cares because the real heat was around the Nick Shirley videos.
That's what the administration.
So now the administration responds to Nick Shirley.
They don't respond to the New York Times.
And people like CNN are now in defensive mode where they've got to run to a Somali center and say, wait a minute, here's a woman actually dropping off her kid.
So it really is a learning center.
Have you seen the propaganda commercials that they have put on with showing these white people, white liberals in Minnesota, going, We stand with our Somalian community.
We stand with you.
We're not going to abandon you.
I mean, like person after person after person.
And I'm thinking to myself, I guess they're okay with people stealing their tax dollars.
But you know what, honey?
They're not stealing their taxes.
They're not stealing from Minnesota.
They're stealing from us.
Because what happens is these programs, these learning centers, are federally funded.
Yeah, but Minnesota also, I mean, the taxpayers in Minnesota also.
Yes, but obviously, think of it this way: if there's a very large pot and 300 million people are contributing into it, the Minnesota share is relatively small.
So if they're getting some political benefits out of it, it's in a sense they're taxing the rest of us for that.
So these white liberals, the reason that they do this is because they are part of the theft scheme.
Now, they are not the 68 IQ, misshapen-headed, rip-off people at the front end.
They are the rip-off people at the back end.
And by that, I mean, think of it.
You think a bunch of Somalis could come to this country and figure out how to rip off the federal government on their own?
No.
They need help.
They're not the smartest people in the world to start.
Well, right.
And I was looking at the IQ.
The average IQ of a Somalian is 67 and a half points.
Yeah.
Now, I wonder if, I mean, that is an arrestingly low number.
In fact, it borders on mental retardation.
It's under mental retardation.
But could it be that the test is a little unfair to those guys?
Probably not.
Probably not.
I would say not.
Now, I will say this, though.
They are very cunning people.
Oh, you're saying the fact that they may not be smart in the intellectual sense doesn't mean that they aren't street smart.
That's right.
Yeah.
And so, yes, but I still think that when you bring street smarts from another country, you have to learn how to play the system in the new country.
And this is, I think, where the Democrats come in.
And actually, this all connects, even though this connection has not been made, it connects to the films we've made on the history of the Democratic Party.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Because we have shown that the Democratic Party did not merely invent the mass-scale plantation system of southern slavery.
They didn't start slavery.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying the elaborate system of plantations was created in the early 19th century by the Democratic Party.
But they also created the urban plantation.
This was, I think, one of the real Tammany Hall.
And also, think of it: the Indian reservations are themselves a type of plantation.
They are.
And the urban plantations are for the ghettos, they're the barrios.
And let's just say there's a Somali plantation.
And this, but so the people on the plantation have to be fed.
And the fraud schemes are the way to feed them.
Just like, think of it, in the middle of the 19th century, immigrants come off the boat, and there to greet them are Democrats with ballots that have already been filled out.
And basically says, put your name over here and sign over here.
Here's a bottle of vodka and go see my friend Al, and he'll he'll give you a job.
And so the Democrats, in a way, have a fraud scheme in place already.
That's right.
And as we know, they also cheat in elections.
And not only do they cheat in elections that are like the Republican Democrat elections, but they also cheat within their own party.
Which is well, these fraud schemes are connected to elections, aren't they?
Because part of what the Democrats are doing is buying the votes of these people.
And if they can buy the votes of these people with somebody else's dollar, they've got it figured out.
So, look, the big question right now, I think, is going to be how extensive are the prosecutions?
We've been doing one-off prosecutions.
In fact, there were some even under Biden.
But we need RICO prosecutions.
We need to scoop in the Democratic officials who have been enablers of the fraud.
Well, why do you think, you know, 2000 Mules was a movie that exposed a lot of this fraud?
And I think the fraud comes in many different forms.
That was just one of the ways that they were able to cheat.
Why do you think no one has gone after the mules, if not for just to ask them who put you up to it?
Who did you report to?
If they don't want to arrest the actual mules, why don't they find out who paid them?
So here's my answer.
At the time of the film, 2022, all the five areas that we covered, which was Atlanta, Phoenix, Detroit, Philadelphia.
And the point is, all these areas were under Democratic control.
So the Democrats who were in on the fraud had no interest in prosecuting it.
Okay.
So it would take a justice department, and obviously it was the Biden Justice Department.
So no surprise, no action there.
And now the question becomes: why haven't the Trump people jumped on this?
Because you know as well as I do that this issue is front and center for Trump.
And I don't just mean generically election fraud, I mean 2020.
Because think of what it would do for Trump's legacy if it turned out if we could prove definitively that they stole the 2020 election.
So I think Trump is like champing at the bid over this.
What I don't know is, is there a circle of people around Trump who are saying to him, We've got so much to do, forget about it.
Let's not look in the rearview mirror.
That's the only explanation I can think of for why Trump isn't like on the phone to Pam Bondi basically saying, go talk to the mules.
Yeah.
When he saw the film, you saw his reaction.
They're missing, they're really missing a lot here, I think.
Absolutely.
It is a great fallacy to think that, you know, it's a little bit like saying that you were just a victim of a home invasion or a murder, but now because you've survived it, that, you know, a murder in your family, it's better to just, quote, move on.
No, you don't want to move on.
It's absolutely imperative that justice be served, that the crooks at least be brought to light.
Even if you can't prosecute them, you want to know who they are.
Similar, by the way, to the whole Epstein situation.
So, yes, I am quite disturbed that we have seen an Arctic silence on this topic.
Now, there has been some kind of stir in the Trump administration about information to come out in Georgia.
So, we're waiting for that.
We'll see what that says.
All right.
Anything else you can think of about 2025 before we push ahead to the new year?
Yeah, well, the you know, the one thing I think that, well, hopefully, we will see even better outcome from it in 26 is the notion of the tariffs.
You know, the I wanted to see an immediate relief in the pocketbook, you know, like immediate gas prices going down, grocery prices going down.
I wanted to see the cost of living going down, all of those things.
And I felt like I didn't really see that, but I will tell you that, you know, we drove to see the grandkids, right, in Dallas.
Gas is under $3.
And I don't remember when the last time that we filled up the car when it was under $3.
So that's a really good thing.
The latest number is very good on the economy.
Yep.
And so let's just put it this way.
You know, we were both concerned that Trump was doing things in the opposite order that he did the last time.
So the first time, first Trump won, he did tax cuts first and he did some tariffs later.
This time he appeared to flip.
The tariffs kicked into effect in 2025.
The tax cut, or at least the extension of the Trump tax cut, doesn't go until 26.
Right.
Right.
So we thought, did he get things kind of out of whack here?
But once again, Trump is like, watch me.
And we're starting to see a major turnaround.
And by the way, the real benefits of the Big Beautiful bill don't kick in till January.
So you've heard Besant say, and I have too, that if you think that there are signs of a turnaround in 25, like just wait for 26.
Right.
I think this is really why I have never been panicked or freaked out about the midterms.
Because if we see an engine of economic growth in 26, a vindication of Trump, people are not going to vote against Trump because, you know, Candace Owens is fighting with some kook over here.
Or, you know, in other words, people are going to be looking at their own lives and they're looking to see if their cities are safer, which, you know, as you know, when we went to Washington, D.C., we could see National Guardsmen walking around.
The place seemed much safer than before.
So if you see safety, you see prosperity, and then you see a leader who actually acts like a leader.
I mean, a guy, think of it, Trump has cabinet meetings on TV and they go around the table.
It's like, what did you do since the last meeting?
Well, as you know, Trump is Trump acts like a CEO of a corporation.
I mean, that's, you know, so start there, right?
That's how that's how he approaches things.
That's how he runs America.
Right.
So he's the CEO of America.
He just happens to be the president of America, but he runs it like he's the CEO of America.
And so he is very much on the economic.
I would like to see the Republicans really tout the crime issue.
The cities that are blue, that are falling apart, that have homelessness out, you know, the, you know, what?
Why don't Republicans ever talk about those things, ever talk about the crime rate in those cities?
You know, they will talk about crime sometimes as an abstraction.
Yeah, but why don't they shut up on crime?
Well, what you're saying is in this age of memes and social media and videos, just do a contrast.
That's right.
In which you have a running camera, let's say down the streets of San Francisco, which is Democratic City, and then you have a running camera down the streets of, say, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Republican City.
Look at the difference.
It's so stark.
Or St. George, the woodlands, places that are straight.
I mean, they're beautiful and clean and No crime, hardly, you know, right.
The crime comes from the outer from the cities, right?
From the nearby cities, the criminals come into those cities.
I still laugh because you told me you were at the hairdresser.
We live in the very red part of Texas, and you were at the hairdresser.
Well, tell what happened.
Yeah, so I was at the nail salon.
And there was a homeless person, but I didn't even see the homeless person.
But I was sitting next to this woman who was from New Jersey.
And the cop comes inside and he's like, Where are they?
You know, and the technician, the nail lady, she's like, Oh, they're right over here.
And so he goes outside, he handcuffs this person and then takes them off, takes them away.
And the lady next to me goes, Oh my gosh, were they trying to break in?
What was going on?
And the technician goes, Oh, no, they're just homeless people.
And she was appalled.
She was appalled.
She goes, What?
You handcuff homeless people?
And I go, and I look at her and I go, You do like it here, right?
You do.
You realize why people move here.
You did move here because you think it's great, right?
Why do you think it's great?
Because we take homelessness, we take crime very seriously.
We don't want these people to, you know, well, the intersection, there may be complex causes.
We're not going to go to the cause, but the intersection between the homeless and vandalism, harassment, and crime is pretty large.
And by and large, a city in which you have homeless people, look at LA, look at San Francisco, encampments.
Those cities, if you draw a Cartesian circle of the homeless and a Cartesian circle of crime, major overlap.
Well, and think of all of the you've heard of all these incidents happening where women are set on fire in a train or a woman is doused with a chemical while she's jogging, whatever.
These are all cases of people that are basically deranged.
They're out on the streets, homeless, yeah, and deranged.
Do we really want this?
I mean, we've also seen episodes where on subways and places or subway stations, they someone will just walk up to someone and like punch them straight in the face.
Yeah, I mean, it's great.
No provocation, not even a robbery.
There's not even like a motive that can be ascribed to them.
And so this kind of craziness goes on.
Let's talk a little bit about Israel because we have this exciting trip planned.
Now, we're at the very early stages.
So if you go on the website, well, actually, we have an ad coming up after this that talks all about it.
So if you're interested, just go to the well, at this stage, all you're doing is putting in your name and your email and saying, I'm interested.
And that's because the pricing hasn't been set up yet.
All that will be done early in the new year.
So once you're on the list, you'll be informed and you can make your decision.
But I think this is going to be, you know, before we went to Israel, I'll tell you the reason why I held off going is I thought to myself, you know, there generally seem to be two types of trips to Israel.
One is the kind of faith-based journey, and the other is sort of the scholarly journey.
And I thought to myself, the problem with the faith-based journey is it's going to be right out of the Bible, but what is going to be the archaeological or scholarly validity?
Because, you know, people sometimes make preposterous statements about Israel that are not grounded in real history or not grounded in fact.
And so I thought, I don't really know if I want to do that.
But on the other hand, I don't really know if I want to go like with the Dartmouth alumni because why?
There's going to be some leftist, atheist professor leading the trip.
And all we're going to get is the kind of shrewd and sophisticated academic prejudice against the Bible.
And that's going to be very disheartening, also.
So, what I'm getting at is that this trip avoids the disadvantages of both sides.
It's going to be very well-grounded.
And yet, it's going to be profoundly faith-driven and biblical.
I mean, there's no one better than Khan in like exposition of the Bible, like on site.
And you've become a bit of an expert in the excavation and the archaeological on a daily basis.
I come to you and I go, read this.
Yes, yes.
What's funny is I'm writing these draft videos for Prager University on biblical archaeology.
And so I typically will sit you down and, you know, we're having coffee and stuff.
And I go, here's what I'm thinking about.
And I lay out my thoughts.
And then I write them up and I give it to you.
And you go, I know all this.
And I go, yeah, that's because I just told you.
No, I know, I don't.
I don't know.
You know, I don't know it before you told me, but I'm just saying, I already am familiar with everything because you just gave me the 10-minute scoop on it, you know?
So, yeah.
So, no, I knew nothing about biblical.
As much as I have studied the Bible in depth for many years, I really didn't know anything about the archaeological findings of the evidence of what I was reading.
Well, I must say, me neither.
And think about it.
I mean, I had written between 2008 and 2012, three books on Christian apologetics with pretty broad knowledge of history and philosophy and some of the sciences and so on.
But somehow I was like untouched by biblical archaeology.
And, you know, I knew a tidbit here, a tidbit there.
And of course, I had read about the Shroud of Turin, for example, and some of the controversy swirling around that.
And every now and then, you'd see an article in the New York Post or elsewhere they found this artifact.
But the big picture was invisible to me.
And now I feel like I, you know, what I'm excited about is to take the Bible as a sort of narrative tapestry and then to anchor it in dates and places and events.
And it suddenly takes on this kind of new texture in which the basically the history and the theology speak to each other.
It's just a much richer way to look at scripture.
And so this trip is going to be all about that.
Well, we have come to that point.
So, you know, let me close out just this way because we've been very grateful to have you as viewers.
Some of you like to listen to the podcast on audio.
Some of you like to watch it on video.
But either way, we've been delighted to have you.
And don't go away.
You don't have to look elsewhere because we're doing, as I say, a sort of a handoff.
And if you think about it, if you like listening and watching five days a week, you'll be able to do this because I'll have my new show, which is going to post every Monday in the evening, details to be announced.
And you're going to have Danielle doing four days a week, Tuesday through Friday, with me making appearances on the show periodically.
And so this is really not a goodbye.
Is it a hosta la Vista?
What is Hasta La Vista?
Is it going to be Asta?
The H is silent.
We've been together 11 years and you don't know that the H is silent?
What?
Are you telling me that I've been mispronouncing words like hooray?
Is it really hooray in Spanish?
Chico, my chico, my lovely chico.
It's hasta la vista.
And it's and it's what is the no, I don't like that one where it says love means never having to say goodbye.
No, love, no, love means never having to say I'm sorry, but that's not even true.
But I don't know what I'm saying.
I think you're, it may be a really good time that we're stopping at this point because you are careening off the road.
I'm off the rails.
I think it's because I'm so upset that I've been fired and I have no job prospects.
I will be sending out resumes, my resume to should I go back to teaching?
No, I don't think you need to go back to teaching.
We have lots of projects to keep you very busy from here on outward.
Uh-oh.
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