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	Is the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians?
	The revival of an ancient conflict recorded in the Bible.
	The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation.
	What if there was gonna be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel.
	The dragon's prophecy.
	Watch it now, or buy the DVD at the Dragons Prophecyfilm.com.
	Coming up, Debbie and I are gonna do our Friday roundup.
	We're gonna talk about the possibility of another nine eleven style terrorist attack on America, the problems with replacement theology, controversy over the dragon's prophecy, whether Trump should deploy the National Guard to Blue Cities, and the dude who allegedly sparked the Pacific Palisades fire.
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	So much has been happening this week uh in the news, but also obviously with the release of the new film.
	And um so there's a lot for Debbie and me to cover in our Friday uh roundup.
	I gotta say, one of the things that we have been kind of overwhelmed by both people we know and people we don't know seeing the film.
	And it's always that time when the rubber meets the road, which is to say you we've been at work at this for uh the better part of a year.
	We have so many hills to climb and getting it done.
	In the end, we put it out, we promote it, we advertise it, we market it, and then it's sort of it's in the hands of the world, right?
	Uh but I think we are both very gratified at the reaction.
	We haven't had this kind of a deeply emotional and strong reaction.
	I think since two thousand meals, if ever.
	It's a different kind of emotion.
	Right.
	It's a different I think with two thousand mules it was more of anger, more of how could they?
	Thank you.
	Like I needed to like I needed to hear this.
	I needed to see this.
	And I needed to see it.
	Yeah.
	And as you know, you know, the the the credits start rolling at the beginning, and it says written and directed by Dinesh D'Souza, Debbie D'Souza, Bruce Schoolie.
	I'm like, no.
	No.
	Written, directed, produced by God.
	It should just say G-O-D on there.
	Yeah, no, it's fair.
	It's fair to say this is actually not our normal attitude, right?
	We don't take this view, but we are taking this view with this film because we have felt all along, and not in one or two ways, but like in a dozen ways, that this has been to use your phrase, God led.
	I actually want to talk about um a kind of a great man who just recently died.
	I mean, you're gonna make me cry.
	No, no, no.
	Um so his name is Richard Friedman, and he is in fact the genius behind the music of this film.
	Now we have had a number of people.
	Normally, music plays underneath of a film.
	Sorry.
	And um, and you know, it is the emotional register of a film, but people don't pay attention to it.
	You do because you're a musician.
	But a lot of people, they did they're carried by the music, but when they comment on the film, they comment on what a brilliant observation, what an interesting idea, and I learned this and I learned that.
	But we have people specifically noting the kind of emotional grandeur of the music.
	Let's talk a little bit about the story of Richard Friedman.
	Um, and um, because I think it's very edifying for you.
	And it and they will understand what we mean when we say that this film is kind of God-led.
	So, Richard, we had been kind of emailing each other back and forth many years ago.
	Well, we're introduced to Richard Friedman because his wife uh works for Dennis Prager, worked for I don't think any more that worked for Dennis.
	His wife uh said, Hey, my husband is a musician, and uh you should listen to his music.
	And this was actually some years ago, and right so we were maybe 2022.
	Right.
	So Richard uh contacted us, we listened to some of his music, we're like, this guy's actually really good.
	He's actually been involved with some very some big movies, and so pick it up from there.
	Yeah, so uh in 2024, we had had kind of an exchange.
	He was like, hey, any new projects, you know, I would love to be a part of your production whenever you have a project, send it my way.
	I'd love to be a part of it.
	And it just so happened that he sent me an email the very day that my mother passed away.
	And as you know, I was kind of a just a mess when that happened.
	And I saw his email and I was gonna reply to him, and I just got you know, I forgot, and I didn't even, you know, I didn't reply.
	And you know, my mom passed away over a year ago in in July, and uh about I want to say, well, this is this is when we were just kind of starting to figure out what we were gonna do about the music for the movie, and I was at a stoplight.
	Coming home from the podcast.
	Coming home from the podcast, I would we had taken separate cars.
	We usually drive together, but this this day I took a sub took my car.
	I was at a stoplight, and all of a sudden, Richard Friedman comes to my mind, just out of the blue.
	I mean, I wasn't even thinking about the music or anything, just Richard Friedman.
	I was like, of course, he would be great for this movie.
	Well, the point about this is that Richard Friedman is he's wide-ranging, but he specializes in like Jewish and Middle Eastern music.
	We had noticed when we listened to his music, there's a a kind of a Schindler's list quality to it.
	It's haunting, it's has that kind of grand sweep.
	Um, we we signed up Richard Friedman, he was delighted to do this.
	Uh he watched the movie.
	We generally, when we make the movie, we put temporary music, which will then be replaced by the the final score.
	He watched the movie, he was blown away, he offered us some really good suggestions, and then what?
	Well, we um we we went back and forth.
	There were there were a couple of songs that we asked him to put in the movie, including the great including the uh the great ending movie, which another was another God send.
	Yeah, because Earth to God Earth to God.
	Uh I John Richeson.
	Yeah, after you had had John on the podcast, I decided to scroll through all his music, and I happened to see that, clicked on it, and this is even before we went to Israel.
	This is before we even had a had a storyline, and I heard that song, and I said, This has to be in the movie.
	And as you know, I'm the I'm the liaison to the music for the movie.
	So, you know, you're like, oh yeah, it's a great, great song.
	Let's see if he'll give it to us.
	You know, let's see if what we can ask for a permission and all of that, you know, Rights to use it and everything.
	So and then there was a there was a scene in the movie that where you were in a cathedral, you were actually in um in Nazareth.
	Church of the Annunciation, maybe.
	Uh, it was where Jesus was born.
	Right or where Jesus lived, right?
	Where in his home.
	His childhood home in Nazis.
	And I had sung a song.
	I used to sing with a band called The Daystar Project, and we did a lot of great songs.
	It was it was an amazing time in my life.
	And um I remembered a song that I did called He Is Here.
	And the the interesting thing about that is that Brian Fouts, the the you know, the guy that arranged the music and he wrote the lyrics and all of those things, he passed away.
	And so I was like, How am I gonna get permission to do that?
	So I I went through some steps to do that, and and it was of course me singing it, and and so Richard heard it and he loved it.
	He goes, Yes, I know where to put it.
	He puts it in there, puts, you know, the the ending song in there, Earth to God, and uh and then a few days later, we get an email from his wife, Leslie, and she says, guys, Richard is very sick, he he had a heart attack.
	Right.
	And um and it and it's an it's the kind of thing that you feel terrible, but you also have that little sense of panic, or at least that would be a normal response, right?
	Yeah, where we would generally say, and in fact, if we had told our film team about it right away, they would immediately be like, we've got to go to a backup, we need to find someone else, let's scramble.
	We actually didn't do that.
	We stayed calm and we said, that's all right, let's see what happens.
	We want Richard to do the music.
	Richard had also brought in another guy who is an Academy Award-winning sound mixer, Francois, uh, and uh I'm chuckling because he used to call him Frank Coys.
	I was like, honey, it's Francois, he's French.
	You're like, what?
	Francois is Francois.
	Anyway, so you now know he's Francois.
	But any event, so what happened was Richard during the duration of the work on this film remained gravely ill.
	In fact, he was in the hospital, kind of coming in and out of consciousness and working in his hospital room with Francois with computers set up there on the music.
	Now, fortunately, Richard has composed all this great music, but it's one thing to just have it, it's a whole other thing to make a score because a score has to has to follow the trajectory of the story and has to uh create the emotional mood of each scene.
	It's not easy to do.
	There are people who are very good musicians who can't do a score.
	But finish the story.
	Yeah.
	So um we were actually in Israel, and we were having dinner, and I looked at my email, and Leslie said, guys, you know, he's not gonna recover.
	He's he's gone, basically.
	You know, he's he's in a coma, and they don't they don't give him any hope of recovery.
	And I kind of started sobbing.
	I was like, that can't be.
	Why would why would God put him in my heart if he was if this was gonna happen?
	Right.
	And then it hit me.
	This was supposed to be his last project.
	Sorry.
	No, it's true.
	Because because why?
	The reason we think this is not simply um because we are um uh have an intuition.
	What happens is the music is ultimately one way or the other, it's done.
	We listen to it, it's spectacular, it's super good.
	Obviously, Francois had to do more than he had bargained for because what he ended up doing was he became in a way the primary guy, and Richard became, but but using Richard's music, and then amazingly, he finishes the the story, the music is done, he dies.
	Passes away.
	So it was in fact his last round, his last venture, right?
	And um and you know, Francois said, and Leslie, this was very important to Richard, like, you know.
	Right.
	Very important.
	Right.
	Well, Richard was a very Richard is very um concerned about the way the world was going.
	And I think Richard wanted in his own small way to help.
	And it turns out that very often you help in the thing that you're good at.
	Sorry.
	And so, but uh the sequence of events was really truly, truly remarkable.
	I mean, um, so guys, this is this is really an unusual film for us.
	You really need to see it because I think the mood that has affected us so much will affect you.
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	I've said before, but don't you agree that this is a movie that in the end is not even about politics?
	No, it's it's actually not about politics.
	It really is.
	It's a funny thing to say because there's politics in the movie.
	I think there are a lot of people that that think that somehow we are um well, I've talked we've talked about this, you've talked about this, that we're somehow on Israel's payroll, and you know, it and you know, uh what do you do?
	What how do you answer people like that?
	First of all, we don't need that money.
	We don't need it.
	No.
	Second of all, we are actually donors of a very important archaeological organization that that does these digs in the city of David.
	We have given them money every year.
	So you could say that, you know, we give them money, not the other way around.
	But also the fact that I I believe that this movie was very edifying in a way that that a political documentary isn't.
	It it hit me in a very, very different way.
	Also makes me worry that people Aren't right with God.
	Right.
	It's not just that they're politically off base.
	It's not just that they're dividing MAGA.
	Um, I mean, look, this is actually the reason why on social media I've been so uh fierce and firm in sort of taking on even our own side.
	Partly because I think I've in intuited that this is bad for Trump, it's bad for MAGA, it's bad for the country, but it's also a poison that is being introduced in the name of Christianity.
	You know, many of these people will say things like Christ is king, and at the same time.
	And he is king.
	And he is king, of course he's king.
	Of course he's king.
	Of course he's king.
	But they're using that slogan to sort of say we've climbed the spiritual ladder.
	The ladder is called the old testament.
	Now that we've reached the ground floor, we kick out the ladder from under us.
	And that is this is deeply heretical.
	Um the um let's talk about uh we'll come back to this topic.
	Uh I want to I want to dive a little bit more into this issue of replacement theology.
	But before that, yeah, let's can you read a couple of reactions from people, either people we know or don't know.
	Oh, sure.
	That you picked up uh from Instagram or just from uh text about the film.
	Yeah, so here's one.
	Hi, Debbie.
	We just left the film.
	Congratulations to you and Dinesh.
	So proud of you.
	Uh, all another powerful film.
	I got tears in my eyes when I saw you getting baptized.
	Absolutely beautiful.
	That's one.
	And then I mean, that's interesting also because we hesitated to put that scene in the film.
	Oh, yeah.
	We were a little worried that you know, baptism is something that's more of a personal um dedication.
	Uh, and so uh you know, but there we were in the water, and we have a cameraman, and he's got this giant camera, and it's in the water.
	I mean, in in in five feet of water, uh the whole thing was a little surreal.
	And then, of course, right next to us were uh 150 Africans, um, and they were singing aloud, and you know, their hair was wet and they were dripping with water.
	The whole scene is almost unforgettable.
	Yeah, but we we weren't sure initially if this would make sense to put in the movie.
	Yeah, but it does.
	It does.
	It does because the film ends on an it's almost a note of like uh tent revival.
	Yeah.
	You know, it has that kind of feel.
	I told you this morning, I said, you know, the movie starts dark, starts with darkness and ends with light.
	Very true.
	You know, and it has that.
	And the darkness is not just some, you know, we've we talked a little bit, and and this is a subject of its own, the issue of October 7th and that kind of that kind of footage uh that is um that's in the film.
	Um by by the way, footage collected by you over two years and you had to sift through it.
	You actually actually removed some of the most gruesome.
	We decided we're not going there, but we need to show enough.
	And I think look, this is the duty of a filmmaker, right?
	In 2000 Meals, we wanted to put you on the scene so you could see what happened in the 2020 election.
	You look at it, it's the middle of the night, here comes a car, out jumps a guy who looks to the left and the right, he's got a backpack, it's got a lot of balance in it.
	So I'm not telling you about election fraud.
	You're what you're observing what you see, and you make up your own mind.
	Similarly, here, October 7th, it's one thing to talk about it.
	It's another thing to like say, all right, I'm gonna put you on a motorcycle with a GoPro, you're gonna ride over the fence into the kibbutzes with Hamas.
	Why?
	Because they took that footage.
	So we did that.
	I I have to say, it was it was someone said this is the most powerful opening scene of a movie since Private Ryan, saving private Ryan, right?
	Because it's like, what is going on?
	You are writing alongside Hamas, and you're gonna see it from the Hamas point of view, not from the Israel point of view.
	Uh, yes, it is heck of an opening of a film, to be sure.
	Um, but when you talk about dark places, the other dark place I think we go is what is the MO?
	What's the modus operandi of Satan himself?
	Satan is the dragon.
	So we need to understand the dragon's handbook, and the dragon's handbook is kind of unpeeled or unfurled in this film.
	So we go to dark places, but you say we don't end there.
	We don't end there.
	Here's another one.
	Uh great and inspiring movie.
	You packed the Tinsel Town Theater.
	It was beautiful to see you two experience baptism in the Jordan.
	I'm telling everyone about it.
	And so I mean, I get a lot of uh a lot of these comments about the baptism in the Jordan.
	And I don't know if you could in the movie see it, but I was sobbing as we were coming down the steps.
	Um, partly because it was something that I had always wanted to do.
	We always wanted to do.
	In fact, the first time we went to Israel, we didn't get to do it.
	Um of the people in our group didn't our group did, but we did not.
	So I said, you know, I want to do it.
	The other reason I was sobbing is because my mother did it in that very place in 2014.
	Right.
	So, you know, uh so 11 years ago.
	And it was her last well, it was her first and only trip to Israel, which she's always wanted to do.
	Yes.
	And you said she talked about it afterwards.
	She, you know, my mother, my love of Israel really started with my grandmother.
	My grandmother, um, who said she had Jewish roots, and then I was like, yeah, grandma, really.
	So it turns out that she was correct.
	I mean, I have about 6%, you know, DNA when you go.
	A small amount, right?
	But but the love of Israel was always there for my grandmother and rooted in the Bible.
	And rooted in the Bible, and she transferred that over to my mom that transferred it over to me.
	So I've always loved Israel.
	And it's it's funny because I've always felt that connection to Israel, uh, in in more of a spiritual connection, but I never thought I would actually go see Israel.
	You know, I I just thought I would see it through the Bible.
	Like I pictured it as I read scripture, and I was like, you know, it must be really kind of cool to see this, you know.
	And then when we went and saw it, it had the the I guess the the reverse reaction.
	It was like, oh my gosh, the Bible that I've been reading suddenly came to life.
	Right.
	This these are the steps that Jesus took.
	And this, you know, and so it it was just one of those things that I believe that everyone should experience at least once in their lifetime.
	The every Christian.
	To address a question that had been raised by Tucker with Ted Cruz, I want to address it not in a theoretical way, but I want to address it by saying that Israel is recognizably now connected to its ancient past.
	And this is observable every day.
	You don't have to do a genetic study, you don't have to, you're basically looking at people who in many ways resemble physically the way they used to be.
	They dress like the Virgin Mary, they look like the prophet Samuel.
	They were, you know, they so they have that ancient look.
	They eat food that you can see described in the Bible.
	Uh, they speak Hebrew, uh, they celebrate the the ha the Feast of the Tabernacles.
	They have, you know, these have Jewish names.
	Uh, and they talk about Elohim, they talk about Yahweh.
	They're they're talking about the name of God in the old testament.
	So now when when I did some exchanges of texts with Tucker, he was focusing on the fact that, well, what about these Jews in Europe and is their DNA blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Leave aside the inherent unproductivity of this enterprise.
	This would be sort of like saying, well, a black's really from Africa.
	Let's let's take Whitney Houston and give her a DNA test to see how much admixture of non-black genes she has, uh, as if to question whether in fact her ancestors are from Africa.
	If you did this with any other group, you would be savaged.
	Um, but leave aside the singling out of the Jews for this genetic type of inquiry, and I just look at it this way that if you look at the Jews in history, they have always remained a people apart.
	I remember, for example, really being struck when I first read The Merchant of Venice, which by the way, some people have criticized as giving an anti-Semitic portrait of Shylock.
	I don't think it does.
	Um, but what it does show is that you've got this Jewish community in Venice.
	They are not part of Venice.
	They have their own quarters, they deal with their own people.
	When Antonio goes to Shylock for money, Shylock doesn't have it all.
	Shylock goes, I've got to go to this other Jewish guy, basically a fellow tribesman he calls him.
	I gotta get the money from him, I'll then give it to you.
	Shylock lives in a sort of segregated society.
	He doesn't eat with with Christians.
	Uh He doesn't, he certainly doesn't want his daughter to marry a Christian.
	And when his daughter Jessica runs away with a Christian, Shylock is like his world is shattered.
	Now, why am I saying all this?
	Because what I'm saying is of all the tribes in the world, and there's really a lot of conversion and intermarriage with many different groups, many different religions.
	The Jews have relatively little of that compared to anyone else.
	So if you want to know if the Jews have maintained their tribal identity, answer yes.
	We had in the small in the suburb of Bombay that I grew up in, a single Jewish family, right?
	I didn't know any other Jews, but this Jewish family stood apart.
	It's like they looked different, they didn't do the same things as everyone else.
	They maintained a kind of Jewish identity.
	And this is even in India, which is mainly made up of Hindus and Muslims and Christians, and then like the Jewish family that lives on that street that is identified kind of in that way.
	So the point I'm trying to make is that these are have been a people apart.
	And not only is this an empirical observable fact, it's a fact predicted in the Bible.
	I was gonna say, of all the things, Shakespeare, your experience, whatever, it's biblical.
	And in Ezekiel 36, it actually talks about the fact that he's gonna scatter them throughout the earth and then bring them back.
	Right.
	I mean, you know, you can say, oh yeah, yeah, but that was, you know, that was the Old Testament.
	That was, you know, God, God, that was before the new covenant, all of that.
	Well, as you know, we've been reading about Romans, Romans 11 specifically, that talks about what Paul said about this situation.
	You want me to talk about it?
	Yeah, yeah, let's go into it.
	Absolutely.
	So he basically said Romans 11, and and by the way, this is I got this from Pastor Andy Woods.
	Uh we had him on the podcast a few weeks ago, and he talked about his AI, ask Andy, you know, on the AI that actually pulls from his own sermons and his own work, his writings.
	Exactly.
	And you know, he's a theologian.
	He's a he's got his PhD in theology.
	He's very, very smart.
	And so I knew if anybody had the answer, he would, right?
	So I go to ask Andy.
	Well, hold on.
	This is important because this is the very passage that is often used by some people on the MAGA right to say that that to justify replacement theology and to say, listen, it's one thing to quote Ezekiel, that's the Old Testament.
	Yeah, but Paul in Romans repudiates the Old Testament.
	Let's see what it is.
	But he doesn't.
	Okay, so Romans 11 is a crucial chapter that addresses God's ongoing plan and faithfulness toward the nation of Israel.
	Paul explains that although Israel is currently in a state of unbelief and national rejection of Jesus as the Messiah, this rejection is not total or permanent.
	Israel's promises from God are not canceled, but postponed.
	God has a future plan to restore Israel, and they will be accepted again.
	Paul divides the situation into three parts.
	Israel in the past was elected by by God, Romans 9.
	Israel in the present is rejected, Romans 10, and Israel in the future will be accepted, Romans 11.
	This shows that God has not forgotten his promises to Israel.
	His faithfulness to them guarantees his faithfulness to the Gentile believers.
	Stop right there, because what this is saying is that if God's promises to his people originally are revocable, then our salvation is revocable.
	Right?
	So either God is giving, let's think about it.
	We all often talk about the free gift of salvation.
	Well, Abraham and his descendants got a free gift, a free allocation of land.
	So if God is saying, you know, if you misbehave, I'm gonna take back that land and it's no longer yours, almost as if I never gave it, God would in effect be open to the charge that he would say, you know what, Jesus died for your sins, but if you continue to commit sins, sorry, Jesus isn't uh salvific grace is not going to extend to you.
	So here is Paul saying that no, one of the reasons we have the assurance that our salvation is intact is because God never breaks his promises, period.
	He doesn't.
	And in Romans 11, Paul also warns Gentile believers, hello, not to be arrogant towards Israel, the natural branches, because they support the root.
	So this is very interesting about the root.
	I was gonna so this is where where that comes in.
	The olive tree metaphor in Romans is significant because it illustrates the relationship between Israel and the Gentiles and God's plan of salvation.
	So the natural branches of the olive tree represent the Jewish people.
	God's original covenant people, right?
	Who have been broken off due to unbelief, meaning that Jews have rejected Jesus as the Messiah.
	But the wild olive branches represent the Gentiles who are actually grafted in among the natural branches, sharing in the rich in the rich root of the olive tree, which symbolizes the blessing of the Abrahamic covenant.
	Now, this is all very um uh profound and interesting, and I want to comment on it this way, and like let's see what you think about this.
	When you hear the play, the phrase replacement theology, in the way that it's being used today, like so many things, it contains a molecule or a grain of truth, but then it also contains a lot of false claims.
	But it's important to identify the grain of truth because no lie can be sold without having some truth.
	It has to have some truth.
	That's what otherwise no one would believe it.
	Um that's why a confidence man will start off with something that's true.
	Like, hey, there are pickpockets around everywhere, and you're like, really?
	And while you're while you're paying attention to him, he's picking your pocket, right?
	But he's right, there are pickpockets around everyone who believes what he's one of them.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Now, here's the thing.
	The good the question I think we should always ask about replacement theology is what is being replaced.
	Now, as it turns out, and I've never seen this discuss, which kind of shows the kind of, I would say, depth of ignorance of this debate on social media, uh, this.
	This was an actual issue between the apostles and Paul.
	It's described in the book of Acts.
	Uh, by and large, Paul was operating on his own, um, ministering to the Gentiles.
	The apostles were mostly in Jerusalem and in Israel, and they were ministering to other Jews.
	So the apostles apparently were generally of the view, partly because of these passages about the vine, or at least that understanding, that if if a Gentile accepts Jesus, he kind of needs to become Jewish.
	He kind of needs to sort of do the Jewish thing just as Jesus did in order to then ultimately, in a sense, be a follower of the Messiah of Jesus.
	And Paul said no.
	Paul said the Gentile does not have to do all the things that we, Paul is a Jew, that we Jews do.
	And so the question was, well, what is it that the Gentiles have to do and what is it that they don't have to do?
	And this was hashed out, and there was an agreement, and this is the agreement, namely that there are some things that the Jews do, let's name them.
	They um they have the Sabbath on Saturday.
	Um, and number two, they have Jewish dietary rules and laws.
	They have a complicated set of other rituals that are all in the various Jewish um books and and and and commentaries on those books, uh, and they celebrate certain Jewish holidays, and they have they're circumcised.
	So those things the Gentiles do not have to do.
	But but a lot of um children does it.
	Yeah, some Gentiles do that, but you don't have to do them.
	Right.
	Okay.
	But here's the point.
	Everything else you have to do.
	So let's say what that is.
	The belief in Genesis 1, the creation of the world.
	You think we can get rid of that?
	Seriously?
	Yeah, the story about the rebel angels in heaven, uh, Adam and Eve, and the understanding of the fall, uh, the exodus and Moses, Mount Sinai and the Ten Commandments, um, the teachings of the Psalms and the prophets.
	And Abraham's promise and God's promise.
	I mean, anybody, if anyone were with a straight face to say that we are gonna get rid of that, this is the person really in the ancient times would be burned as a heretic, Right?
	But today they won't be burned as a heretic, but they still are a heretic because and they're not a heretic because they don't agree with some Protestant pastor about dispensational theology, they're a heretic because they are rejecting the mainstream of Christianity, Catholic and Protestant both for 2,000 years.
	That's right.
	Right?
	So they are trying to replace, and this is I think the punchline, they are trying to replace Christianity itself.
	They're trying to replace God the Father.
	They're trying to replace God the Father.
	They actually are trying to it.
	I've said this before, and I got it from you actually.
	They're like, they want to take the Trinity and cut it down to two, right?
	Because think of it this way the the Old Testament is kind of the biography of God the Father.
	That's right.
	The gospels are the biography of Jesus and the Acts of the Apostles are the biography of the Holy Spirit.
	That's right.
	If you think you can kick out the Old Testament, there goes God the Father.
	Goodbye.
	Right?
	You're not going to ride on the other two persons of the Trinity.
	This is unacceptable.
	Yeah.
	No, I think that's a good idea.
	And so what you're saying really, I think is this is what we're what we're witnessing is really not a degradation.
	We're becoming arrogant.
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	We want to talk about 9-11.
	That's actually very I I love this.
	And you you have to have Pastor Andy Woods come back, and you guys can spend the entire thing.
	Well, also we're talking to Pastor Jack Hibbs.
	Jack Hibs, who was uh Charlie Crook's pastor.
	Yep.
	And uh and Rob McCoy.
	I mean, there are a lot of great guys who can who can address this, I think, in a in a deep and interesting way.
	So we're not gonna get off this topic, but we are for now.
	Um we are you have seen some chatter about the possibility of another 9-11 type attack.
	Now, I think to me, this is very interesting for this reason.
	People to this day think that Net and Yahoo must have known about October 7th, because how else could it have happened?
	And what this misses is that that by and large, these surprise attacks often catch people when they're sleeping.
	Look at Pearl Harbor.
	America was sleeping.
	Look at 9-11.
	America was sleeping.
	And And you know, Tucker just did this big special new revelations about 9-11.
	There are no new revelations that change the fact that America had all good reason to get bin Laden in the 90s.
	Not only were there multiple terrorist attacks that were like loud warnings.
	The USS Cole was Bin Biden's location was known.
	He was preaching in the mosque in Kandahar.
	He was being interviewed by John Miller of CNN.
	Peter Arnett.
	Well, not only that, but there were there were there was chatter, chatter about it.
	About it before it happened.
	Ignored.
	The FBI knew about it.
	They knew there was chatter that something big was gonna happen.
	Yeah.
	And as you know, in 1993, someone tried to blow up the World Trade Center.
	Of course.
	But they failed because they went into the parking garage and it only blew up a little section of it.
	It didn't bring the whole building down.
	The blind shake.
	That's right.
	So they were like, we can't do it from the bottom up.
	We have to do it from the top down.
	That's why 12 9-11 happened.
	Because they knew that there was going to be a way they were gonna bring those towers down some way.
	What is the chatter saying now?
	So basically, the um the there's uh there's basically an al-Qaeda sleeper cell in the United States.
	Um, and they came in through guess who Joe Biden.
	Biden's uh administration.
	Sort of like, welcome to America.
	That's right.
	It's come through our open border.
	Yes, yes.
	Um, and so under the Biden Harris administration, the Department of Homeland Security issued a threat saying that Iran rallies on individuals with pre-existing access to the United States for surveillance and lethal plotting.
	And so these sleeper cells um are all over, all over.
	And lately, there has been chatter about going after hospitals, going after big centers, you know, like maybe a movie theater or a stadium or something like that.
	And and it's a little bit on the creepy side with the hospitals because I read that it that these people were going to pose as doctors, pose as nurses.
	Um, and this is where I always tell you that it doesn't matter how many things you take off at TSA, ultimately, if someone works in the airport, or as someone is flying the plane, that's all they need to do.
	Right.
	They they don't need to go through with the with a bomb or or weapon or whatever.
	What you're saying is that what is the confidence we have that our screening procedures for these things are even remotely close to adequate, right?
	What you're saying is that these days, let's just say, for example, that you've got a guy who is um Muslim and he is applying for a job at the airport at Dallas Fort Worth or Atlanta, right?
	Now, if this was Israel, on that ground alone, he would get heightened scrutiny.
	Uh, not because they are against Muslims, there are many Muslims and Arabs who live in Israel, they have normal rights, as everybody would be like, listen, there's a greater probability that this guy could be a problem.
	We just need to look further into it.
	We're not saying it's a problem, we're saying it is a first step, right?
	But because we don't want to do racial profiling and religious profiling, we would say, oh no, we have to treat this guy exactly the same as if he were, let's say, some guy who is like Amish or some other guy who not Amish because I'm assuming the Amish don't fly planes, but someone of a different background.
	Um, so as a result, it is not all that difficult for someone.
	Let's just take one of these guys who let's say graduates from Colombia, has been part of these radical uh, you know, Hamas protests.
	That kind of a guy wants to be a pilot, right?
	They're not gonna say, well, he was in a demonstration a few years ago.
	Yeah.
	So what you're what we're getting on here, the vulnerability.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Absolutely.
	Well, you know, I'll give you an example.
	Um, the last time we were at the airport, and this is this is something kind of comical.
	Um, a woman in front of me in a full burqa, a full burqa.
	You can only see her eyes.
	You don't even really know if it's a woman or a man, to be honest.
	You really don't.
	You know, she's a full black burqa.
	To the ground.
	To the ground.
	Everything.
	She goes through, you know, the metal detector thing.
	She goes right on, right?
	Then here I come in my little sweater.
	And you know how I look when I go when I'm with my leggings and you've been selected as a you know random.
	And I'm like, are you kidding me?
	What about her?
	You know what I mean?
	I was like, no.
	But so again, I think we we have the we we take the stance of no no.
	We don't want to profile anybody.
	Right.
	We take the stance of let's call it the roulette wheel stance.
	Let's run the roulette wheel and we will screen number 89.
	Yes, that's right.
	And so, you know, and and and I I it also pains me to see like little little two-year-olds getting patted down and grandmas in a wheelchair getting patted down because it's ridiculous.
	Really ridiculous.
	Well, the point I think we're getting out here, and we want to get to it right away, is this you're saying that we have so much of this jihadi stuff going on that and people are so blind to it.
	Oh, 100%.
	Right.
	They're blind that it's almost like it's gonna need it's gonna take some 9-11 style wake-up call for people to realize the magnitude of the problem that has been imported into this country.
	I won't say deliberately, but with brazen.
	What I mean, look look at let me let me give you another example of this brazen behavior.
	The mayor in Dearborn, Michigan telling a Christian man to get out of the city, like they don't we don't want your kind here.
	Get out, you know.
	What was the what was the group?
	What was the man doing?
	The complaint was basically listen, there's a street named after a terrorist.
	I don't want I don't want this this in my town.
	There's this, and and basically the the mayor is like, really?
	Well, it's gonna stay, and you're gonna go.
	I mean, who does that?
	So Dearborn, Michigan is is really a an example of what can happen in other cities.
	Their model city.
	It's their model city, and I know this because I've studied this for many, many years.
	And I knew it was going to come.
	The thing is, you knew people in Texas who were donating to Dearborn, right?
	And you were like, what?
	This is very odd.
	Right.
	I mean, sure, they're Muslim and they're dearborn Muslims, but why would you want to quote donate to Dearborn?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	But it makes total sense.
	But it makes total sense why?
	Well, because they're constructing the mini-calibur.
	That's right.
	They are.
	They are, absolutely.
	That's what you're saying.
	And and in Texas, it's not looking very good either, because there are a lot of mosques everywhere.
	And you know, that's fine to have a mosque by itself by itself, it's it's fine, but it's what they do, it's what they push from that agenda.
	And and the other, the other thing I was gonna say is also if you notice in New York City the people yelling from the river to the sea, you know, with all their flags and everything.
	Those people are terrorists in my in my book.
	They are.
	Well, we should they're they're they're terrorist sympathizers.
	Well, I mean, I don't know.
	They could be terrifying, there could be terrorist height in it.
	Among them, yeah.
	Among them.
	One of them said, Oh, yeah, you ain't seen nothing yet.
	October 7th.
	Yeah.
	You know, I'm gonna also, I'm gonna also read you something that I I did a little um uh screenshot of uh because basically the Gazans, okay, this is in in on the Gaza strip, right?
	After the announcement of the agreement, they started shouting, Kayabar, Kayabar, oh Jew, Gaza people will finish you soon.
	Right.
	Okay, so they were chanting this, and a lot of people on Instagram were like, what are they chanting?
	Number one, what are they chanting?
	Number two, why do they look so fat?
	I thought the Gazans were supposed to be starving and like extinct.
	Like, you know, I thought that the genocide had happened.
	Why are there so many people in the street, right?
	Right, right.
	And also the also the population of Gaza is basically undiminished.
	That's right.
	So let's think about it.
	If you have a population, you have genocide, usually that popular like for example, there were virtually no Jews left in certainly not Nazi occupied uh Europe by the end of the war.
	We were gone.
	So there was a j great implosion of the population of Jews.
	That's right.
	There's no such implosion in Gaza.
	That's right.
	Uh now.
	Um the um I lost my train of thought for a moment, but but um No, but what I was saying is the link between those people saying you ain't seen nothing yet in New York City, and the people in Gaza saying they're not done yet.
	Oh, right.
	That's the link right there that we have to remember.
	Oh, here it is.
	This is my thought.
	It's that before this peace plan, there was a deafening scream all across the West.
	Genocide, stop the genocide, right?
	All right.
	So Israel has agreed, hit the pause button.
	Let's exchange the hostages, right?
	So we have made major headway, at least step one, with the real possibility that you could see a cessation of hostilities.
	Now you would think that all these genocide decriers would be very exuberant, very excited because a genocide in their view has been going on and it's now stopped.
	But you notice what's happening?
	A sullen silence has descended on the left.
	The genocided have become the genociders.
	Well, what I mean is that the left is like not happy about this.
	Yeah.
	I I guess they're partly not happy because they don't want to give an ounce of credit to Trump.
	That's part of it.
	But I think a bigger part of it is they believe that Israel has won this war.
	And that the effect of the war has been that Hamas, the political structure that launched these October 7th attacks, is going to be dismantled in Gaza.
	Now it's not going to be completely eradicated, which is what Israel would do if the war continued.
	But it's going to be able to to lie low, it's going to be able to disperse, it's going to get safe passage, but at least it's not going to be running Gaza, and that's a fact.
	And that's what's making the left angry.
	Grumpy.
	They're grumpy about it.
	They're grumpy about it.
	But hey, you know, we'll see, right?
	I mean, it's supposed to happen on Monday.
	Um, you know, I've been reading a little bit about Bible prophecy and the seven years of peace, pretend, you know, they're not going to be able to do that.
	We're like, what if we have peace, but it only lasts.
	It's supposed to last only three and a half years of the seven.
	And then, you know, but anyway, well, we'll we'll I digress.
	We'll we'll talk about Bible prophecy later.
	Because we just have a little time.
	Let's let's actually close out on the Did we mention Trump's National Guard at the and on the description that we were going to talk about that?
	No, that's okay.
	We'll let's pass over.
	Yeah, we'll do it maybe next time.
	Let's talk about Jonathan Rinder Connect.
	Rinder Next.
	Rindernecht.
	Who is Jonathan Rindernecht?
	He is the face.
	He's allegedly the guy.
	He's allegedly the guy that burned down the Palisades.
	Pacific Palisades.
	Pacific Palisades in California.
	Leveled innumerable buildings.
	I don't even know the cost of the damage.
	Billions.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, so they've arrested this guy.
	They've arrested this guy.
	They say he's the one that started the fires.
	And I on Instagram said, This is the face of man-made climate change.
	Which is like such a slam dunk.
	Because it is man-made.
	Yeah.
	It is, in fact, climate change, but it's not, it's not the myth that the left has been peddling, which is that climate change has warmed the planet, guys.
	This is why the timber was so dry.
	Yeah, no, no.
	No, you have a guy with a torch.
	There we go.
	Man-made climate change.
	That's right.
	Man-made.
	It's a man-made.
	And by the way, have you noticed, have you noticed that Greta Thunberg has completely dropped this issue.
	Oh, but she said, you know what?
	Oh, the uh yeah, because now because now Gaza and the and the cruel Israel.
	Did you know that she said she got tortured?
	Tortured and kidnapped.
	Tortured and kidnapped in Israel.
	Yeah, she's the real victim.
	Uh not the hostages, not uh, you know, Omri Miran.
	Uh, by the way, Omri Miran, we're so excited about the fact that he's going, you know, we have much of a lot of people.
	Well, do we know, do we know for a fact he's not a few years?
	We don't know for a fact.
	We don't know for a fact, but what we do, what we are saying is, and in fact, our friend Marina Medvin has set up a go fund me.
	I think this is just very nice of her.
	She set up a gofund me.
	We've given money to it.
	And the idea is if the Miran family is reunited, as We we certainly pray and hope they are that they can do a bit of a getaway.
	I forget if it's too like Aruba.
	Take a week in Aruba, get your life back at least somewhat.
	I mean, think about it.
	You you have little I can't even imagine who have not had their dad for two years.
	What do you said?
	733 days, something like that.
	733 days.
	Oh, and and today and you cannot come out of that unscathed.
	You can't.
	And and I told you that there are some hostages that came out earlier that have not recovered.
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