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ONE STATE SOLUTION Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep1143
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Coming up, Debbie and I are going to do our Friday Roundup.
We're going to talk about Prime Minister Netanyahu's plans to establish full Israeli control over Gaza, what we call the one state solution.
We're also going to talk about how Trump became America's most influential president in perhaps a century, how halal food came to Texas public schools, the Iraqi couple that beat the R rap in an attempt of honor killing, this was in Washington State.
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Debbie and I thought we would get started with our Friday roundup with a big development in the Middle East, which is to say that the Netanyahu administration is evidently putting a plan forward for a new world.
a complete Israeli control of Gaza.
And I think what that means is that they're giving up on this two state idea and they are going for the one state solution and the one state is you could call it greater Israel.
It is all the land that Israel took in the sixty seven war, which was the West Bank and Gaza.
Now they did give back the part of the Sinai because they made a deal with Egypt, so Egypt got some of its land back.
But the West Bank and Gaza, I think Israel is saying not only are we keeping it, but their old compromise which was we're going to let the Palestinian Authority rule in the West Bank, which is of course Judea and Samaria.
We were there not so long ago this year, and then Gaza, where we also were filming for the movie, Gaza was essentially conceded to Hamas because Hamas won that election around 2006 or 2008.
And so the Israelis were like, we'll pull out of Gaza.
You run Gaza, but no more.
What do you think of that?
Listen, I've been watching those videos again because we've been pulling out some videos for the movie.
And every time I do that, I'm reminded at the monsters that live there.
And, you know, unfortunately, some of the videos that I saw, you can't tell Hamas from the Palestinian citizens.
I mean, it's like they're one and the same.
The movie brings us out, I think, beautifully.
And so people will see it for themselves.
But I think what you're describing, we need to spell out what you're talking about here.
Because right after October 7th, the terrorists grabbed people from Israel.
And what did they do?
They took him right back to Gaza.
And they made videos over there of parading these people through the streets.
Now who's in the streets?
Civilians.
That's right, civilians.
And you can get the civilian reaction to October seventh, and it's very clear that the civilians are ecstatic.
They were on board.
Right, it's like it is a celebration, it is an explosion of joy, it is Allahu Akbar, and people will be able to see all this for themselves.
But you were saying that the implication of that is that in some ways Israel is right to feel unsafe not just about the organization Hamas but about all those people over there and their support for Hamas.
Absolutely because some of these videos included some people, some Israelis being stomped on so severely I saw a video of this I don't know if he was an IDF soldier or if he was just a civilian he was from Israel and there were kids, teenagers stomping on him to the point that he was almost decapitated.
I know that's very graphic but let me tell you., these videos are that's all they are.
They're graphic.
Well, we want to make the point that and I can understand in some ways we there's an undercurrent on social media of anti Israel sentiment.
And many of these people seem to think that October 7 was blown out of proportion by Israel.
Now, in some ways, I have to somewhat fault.
I don't know if it's the Israeli government, but I have to fault the fact that the kind of material we're talking about has not been seen.
Almost no one has seen it even though you.
Though, you have been getting these videos from Telegram channels.
By the way, many of these videos made by Hamas itself.
Some made by the idea.
Most of them are made by Hamas.
Most made by Hamas.
Most of them.
And what we have done, which I think is the effect is going to be very electric, is we have brought them together in a riveting opening narrative.
Yeah.
Where people can, we, you know, just as in 2000 Mule's, to some degree we were able to put you there at the scene of the election.
This is even more vivid.
We just put you there.
Yeah.
And you can see it for yourself.
Well, you know, they, the Israel, did a video.
I think that was the video that they showed mainly reporters, journalists.
They did.
It was a compilation of all the videos for like, you know, maybe an hour and a half full of them, right?
Yeah.
However, they were very adamant about not showing them to other people, just the journalists.
Right, and I probably would, to be honest, these, a lot of these journalists are very jaded.
They are very ideological.
Their attitude is, I don't want to see it.
And so you're showing it to an audience that's going to do nothing for you.
trying to convert people or win them over, but that assumes that they are well meaning, that they are moved by basic humanity, that they're going to look at this stuff and go, Wow.
But no, I think they look at this stuff and they just go, Israeli propaganda, especially if it's coming from the government.
Yeah, right.
And this, you know, this wasn't coming from the government, so hopefully it will open some eyes.
Do you think it's going to work?
Do you think that they're going in there and, you know, because Israel is run so well.
I mean, it's like a well oiled machine.
It is.
You know, it's they have shown that they can.
run a society that has Muslims in it.
As we know, there are Muslims who live in Jerusalem, there are Muslims who live all over Israel, there are Muslims who serve in the parliament, in the government.
The West Bank has been, I won't say it has been serene or quiet because we know people in the West Bank or in that area of Judea and Samaria, they talk about the fact that in the past they have had rocks thrown at their vehicles.
So we're not implying that things are.
When we went there, we went in a armored vehicle, basically.
It was a SUV, bulletproof SUV with an armed guard.
I know it's funny.
The thing I remember most vividly is I thought, oh, armored vehicle, no big deal and stuff.
And then I was trying to get out and I realized I couldn't open the door.
Oh yeah.
It weighed like seven hundred pounds, right?
Yeah.
And so they had to come around and in a sense open the door for me.
Yeah.
But you're right, we went under, we had to be under conditions of security.
Yeah.
And we're not talking about a guy with a small revolver or pistol.
This guy had a master.
Probably an AR 15, something like that.
Yeah, and I think he was telling us that he had rigged it himself.
Right.
In other words, he had set it up himself to be particularly lethal.
No, I think it not only is going to work, now it's by work what we mean is it is always a pain to govern by force a bitter and unwilling population.
Look, the Romans did it and the way they did it is they had to use extreme force.
So the Mongols did it.
They controlled a huge empire.
I remember reading recently a very vivid image for me.
It said that in the thirteenth century you could a young girl could be could wear gold necklaces around her neck and walk the entire distance of the Mongol Empire untouched.
Why?
Because the Mongols were complete savages.
If anybody touched the girl, they would come to that area and kill everybody within a hundred miles.
And so it's like the message got out, don't mess with the Mongols.
So the point is, I think that if you employ a sufficient degree of ruthlessness, you can do it.
Now it could be., and I think this is where Trump's psychology is, give these people another way out, give people an option.
It's kind of like saying, this is our society, we're going to rule it.
Frankly, if you'd rather go somewhere else, we're going to help you to do that.
So this is kind of like self deportation, but it's not really that, of course.
What I'm getting at is, look, if these guys can go to Jordan, if they can go to Egypt, if they can, I mean, it would not be too expensive to provide them with a passage, an apartment, employ them, start a peaceful, decent life in them, you know?
You know, because look, one of the things Abraham Lincoln said to the blacks, this was right before the Civil War, is he goes, listen, he goes, you're living in a white man's country.
You know, he goes, you keep asking me to do this and that.
You want to get rid of all people's prejudices against you.
And Lincoln goes, I don't have the power to do that, even if I would.
I'm not able to do that.
I wanted to.
Right?
So he said, I totally get where you're coming from.
I'm paraphrasing, of course.
And Lincoln goes, you might be happier in a country of your own, right?
And so to the degree that you've got these Palestinians, they have a Palestinian.
identity and they want to be, they want to run their own lives, and in a sense you can't blame them.
But I think Israel is right to say, you can do it, but not here.
And this is land that is ours.
Not only is it our ancestral land, but we also want it fair and square.
That's right.
And we're not giving it back.
Conquest and heritage and history, right?
Every argument for how a country has gotten land, Israel qualifies by that standard.
So let's look at histor the boundaries of the world, how did countries become that way?
One way, the most common way is conquest.
The second most common way is by some negotiated settlement, where you draw a line and let's say India and Pakistan agree this is going to be our border, so the negotiated settlement is the second.
And the third one is you were there first.
You are the original or aboriginal inhabitants.
You are the indigenous people of the region.
So when you look at Israel, who are the indigenous people?
The Jews.
Number two, who got Israel in the negotiated settlement in nineteen forty eight through the UN and all the international agencies?
with the support of the British and the United States, Israel checks that box.
And finally, who got the land in a kind of a fair fight, so to speak, in which the Israelis didn't even start it.
They were attacked.
And so by every plausible criterion, Israel has a right to say, I think, this is our land.
I think that is the dispute, right?
This is why people like the squad, why they are so adamant about Israel being occupier, which they are not.
But the propaganda, of course, is that they are.
And so that is why people look at Israel and say, what are you doing?
Why are you doing that?
And so I think it's really important to settle that argument.
I will say I'm excited about the film.
It's called The Dragon's Prophecy, and I'm very excited about it because it brings such a startlingly deep and fresh perspective.
It introduces answers even where people don't even know what the question is, because this is an area, I have to say, going back to the Reagan era and even before that.
It is a part of the world where nothing gets resolved, right?
I remember Nixon making trips to the Middle East and there's Kissinger and they're trying to work it out.
And then of course Carter does the peace initiative with Sadat.
And then later Clinton and then Obama, it just everyone has sort of tried their hand at it and kind of gotten nowhere.
And it remains unresolved to this day.
Obama did.
He's anti Semite, Obama.
Well, Obama was not trying to resolve it.
Obama was trying to alter the balance of power against us.
And to some degree, he succeeded.
So yeah, this is going to be very interesting to see.
Netanyahu is following through.
I think he had a very clear idea.
These are my war aims coming out of October 7.
I want to make sure that this kind of thing can't happen again.
I want to make sure that the people who did it are suitably punished.
And I'm going to redraw the map if I have to to achieve these goals.
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Let's turn to America and talk about Trump.
We have a couple things to say about Trump, but the first one has to do with his overall effectiveness.
And I think that although the left has they started out with this theme of, you know, stop telling us how old Biden is.
Trump is very old and Trump is not all there.
I think they're now realizing he is very much.
there.
And not only is he very much there, he's like one of those giants whose giant stompings and footsteps are all over the different institutions of our society, academia stomp, you know, the media stomp, the banks stomp.
There's a campaign, I think, that is driving Trump.
And the left keeps saying retribution.
I myself never shirk from that word, because I think almost always when people say retribution, what they mean is just desertion.
Get back.
Yeah.
I mean, you're getting what you deserve.
Yeah.
You're, you're, it's karma time.
It's time to settle accounts.
It's time for accountability.
Well, Trump runs the country like he would run a company.
And I think people just aren't used to that.
They're used to government, they're used to slow, ineffective, kicking the can down the road.
And that's just not him.
You know, this is a, this is a very insightful point.
I think it's that a lot of times people think that being in politics is submitting to a process.
And so if you're a congressman, you show up, here's your office, sir, this is what you do.
It's time for a vote.
You go cast your vote.
You dutifully fit yourself into some system, right?
I think what you're saying is Trump comes marching in and he says things like, well, why does that have to be that way?
Right?
There's a lot of crime in DC and the normal politician would be like, well, I better call up the mayor.
Trump's point is, how about we take over DC, right?
The banks, Trump is like, you know what?
I'm going to get on the phone with each of these CEOs of the banks, and I'm not just going to give them a tongue lashing, I'm going to tell them that I'm going to bring the regulators down on their heads because Trump goes, he was interviewing, they said, Are you threatening these banks with regulators?
And Trump goes, Listen, these bankers are only scared of two things the regulators and their wives.
He goes, They might be a little more scared of their wives, but he goes, But they are scared of the regulators.
And Trump is like, I'm not hesitating to use that.
I think what Trump has realized is that what the Democrats do in the media is they have rigged all the processes to their benefit.
And so if you submit yourself to process, you're surrendering to them.
You're allowing them to set the terms and the parameters.
And so Trump is like essentially to heck with the process.
I don't care about the process.
I care about a substantively just outcome.
And that's what I'm going to go for.
And he's shown that if you are sufficiently pig headed about it and you go about this with determination and you have people, this is what impresses me is that he's got a cabinet and he's got people working for him who are not just sycophants, they are committed to his agenda And they will push it and they are pushing it.
So that's impressive to see.
But you were the one who alerted me to this action on the debanking.
Yeah, because I heard Eric Trump talking about it and he said that Melania and other members of their family, they Melania, for example, was deplatformed from the bank because she was actually trying to set up a,
I guess, an account because she gives money to, I don't know if it's colleges or places for these kids that are., oh, what is it?
I lost my, you know, not adopted, but she's perfect or?
No, no, no, no, no.
Gosh, what?
I can't even think of the word.
What kind of kids?
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
She's giving money to a charity cause, what I mean.
Charity cause, and so they deplatformed her and she was like, okay, well, the kids are the ones that are going to, that are going to miss out.
You know, it's, I'm fine, but it's them that intervene.
I mean, the guy said that he had a account, I guess it was with JP Morgan Chase.
They debank him, right?
They say we can't, they cancel his account.
And Trump emphasizes, he goes, listen, it's not because I wasn't like keeping my balance high enough.
He goes, I was trying to, he says, then I said, okay, I'll take my money out.
It was a billion dollars.
And he goes to Bank of America.
And he goes, I go to the guy who's running Bank of America who, he says, was kissing my butt in the first term.
And he says, I want to open an account with a billion dollars.
And the guy goes, can't help you.
Can't do it.
No can do.
Now, in fairness, I should say, because we're giving the impression that all these bank guys are police state apparatchiks.
But the truth of it is they are being manipulated by the Biden regulatory regime.
So the Biden people come in and they strong on the banks.
One thing to realize is banks are really not private.
We think of banks as private institutions, they're not, they are completely under the thumb of the government.
So is this going to be the case where when we have a Democrat in the, in the White House, the banks will do it again and back and forth and back and forth.
Is that what we're going to come to expect from America?
I mean, I don't necessarily think so, but here's what I think that what happened was the banks are used to full obedience and full compliance.
They had never gotten this kind of a request before.
By the way, as you know, I'm part of the story of myself.
And I've mentioned before, but we haven't mentioned the full extent of it because after my case with the Obama administration, not only did Chase close my account, but later I decided to apply for a credit card.
Now it wasn't a Chase card.
Yeah, it was Chase.
It was actually a United card using Chase Bank, and they approved me because my credit's good.
But then I think the moment that they not only approved you, they sent you a card.
They sent me a card.
You had the card for like, I don't know, a couple of weeks.
And then they canceled it.
And then you got a lot of money.
Which means that I'm still in there, like, no banking zone.
Now, the other thing you mentioned, which is true, and we haven't mentioned it really, is American Express.
Because I have been a, I mean, I got my first American Express card in my twenties when I got my first job.
So I've been 35 years with American Express.
And our American Express bill annually is rather large.
So we used to have a very big credit limit with American Express with the Platinum card, and suddenly my credit limit plummeted to a much more modest number where it has remained.
And even though I protested about a year ago or so, you're like, call them up, see if you can talk some sense into them, but no, they would not budge.
And so I think again, I don't think this is like American Express, you know, making some kind of decision.
Let's deplatform that guy.
No, I think even American Express, all of these people were under police state scrutiny by the Biden regime.
And so they wanted to be on their best behavior.
It's almost like they were taking preemptive action.
But what, you know, the thing is, what do they, what do they care?
I mean, we pay our bills on time.
No, that's not the point, honey.
The point is that they for them to function as a bank, if the government were to pull their banking privileges, they would go under, right?
So they don't, it's not that they care about our account.
You know, it's like it's like why Costco canceled my America book going back to twenty fourteen.
It's not that they don't make money on my books, but they were like whatever money we make on Dinesh's book pales.
Tails to taking off Obama and Eric Holder.
That's far more important to us than even having a bestseller.
We were perfectly happy to sacrifice that.
Remember the head of Costco at that time would go to the Lincoln bedroom.
He was a big Obama worshipper.
I'm sure he wants to jump up and down in the Lincoln, you know, on the bed.
That was more important to him.
But the debanking, I think that if Trump is sufficiently, and I use these words deliberately, savage in hammering these people down, maybe fine them, make them pay a penalty for this debanking.
They will learn a lesson and the next time they'll push back.
So back to Melania, foster care.
She's very much into the foster care system.
And so these are foster children.
So she said the foster children are the ones that are going to suffer from this.
Let's talk about Trump and his cultural meanderings, because the one thing you can count on Trump is he's going to make a comment about the ratings of a new reality show.
The latest was he's weighing in on Sydney Sweeney and egging her on and egging on American Eagle.
And but you were telling me that you were looking at some profit numbers.
Yeah, it looks like American Eagle really made a lot of money from this ad.
Yeah, and Trump said something in his post that I didn't know.
He was contrasting American Eagle with Jaguar, and he goes, and I had seen that Jaguar, that this ad that they were doing with all these like weird persons of color space zombies was a complete dud.
And in fact, Jaguar sales plummeted.
to say that the guy who was in charge of Jaguar had been given the boot, which I didn't know.
Well, maybe.
But Trump keeps track of this kind of stuff.
Maybe they can design some better looking cars while they're at it.
You know, that too, as you know, well, I mean, I told you, that was one of my first cars was the British Racing Green, I mean, it was after my first book that was a big bestseller, Liberal Education.
I mean, before that, I could hardly afford a Jaguar.
But this was like my splurge when that book hit the bestseller list.
I had, and the Jaguars in those days were just beautiful cars.
Really beautiful cars.
And I just adored that car.
And then I just noticed years and years later that they just something happened with the look of the Jaguar and they decided the uglification of our culture extended to the Jaguar.
They just lost it.
Yeah.
And they never got it back.
Yeah.
Well, maybe they'll get maybe they'll get on board and So what you're saying is they don't just need a better ad campaign.
They need actually better look.
They need to go back to the classic look of the Make Jaguar great again.
Make Jaguar great again, exactly.
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Let's move on to what's our next topic?
Oh yes, we want to talk about a topic close to your heart, which is the fact that in Texas, a conservative state.
Do you have the Yeah, I do.
The right up on that.
A conservative state.
Oh yeah.
Which is essentially, let's call it Muslim kosher, right?
It's approved Islamic meals.
That's right.
Are being offered in public schools across Texas.
And when we heard about it, I mean, my instinct on these things initially is always somewhat soft, which is to say, okay, you got Muslim kids in these schools.
They don't, you know, they they eat, you know, quote, kosher food.
And their needs have to be met in some way.
But then what you said was, hey, what's next?
Yeah, no, what's next?
Now, interestingly, I'm looking at the bill.
It was Texas Bill, House Bill 625.
Yeah.
Now, this paper does say that it was dead in June, so that it did not pass.
However, I saw another write up that it did pass and it was going to take effect in September.
So I have to figure out what's actually going on.
But you raised a hypothetical that I that made me think, and that was this.
You said, Hey, what if the Muslims go to the school board and say, You know, as Muslims, we are commanded to pray five times a day.
Our kids can't do that in the public school.
Therefore, the public school needs to have a prayer room.
And by the way, that won't really suffice because Muslims don't just show up to pray and pray quote on their own Protestant style.
Muslims pray in groups and they often have a musin or they have an Islamic figure who calls them to prayer.
So if we're going to have an Islamic prayer room in the school, we need to have a the school needs to deputize a musin to make the call to prayer.
And what you're getting at is, again, what do the schools do with these kinds of demands for special treatment?
Again, there's nothing comparable on the Christian side.
No, and listen, IAH, our airport, has one.
Did you know that?
Did you know that?
It has an Islamic prayer.
Yes, it does.
It has a chapel, an Islamic prayer chapel.
Right.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Texas is I'm just going to give you a little maybe next week when you have Robert Spencer on you can ask him about the Islamization of Texas and other places.
This is Robert Spencer who runs the group called Jihad Watch and pays careful attention to these kinds of things.
I mean, you can only imagine that all this is probably already going on full scale in places like Michigan.
Oh yeah, no, in Dearborn.
Oh yeah, Dearborn, Michigan.
Oh yeah, Dearborn, Michigan.
Illinois.
Now the interesting thing, Reform Austin says that Abbott claimed Sharia cities are prohibited in Texas.
You know how that was going around.
So he's made his stance.
He also says that he's not going to allow any of these so-called no go zones.
Yeah, he says, to be clear, Sharia law is not allowed in Texas, nor are Sharia cities, nor are no go zones, which this project seems to imply.
Bottom line, the project as proposed in the video is not allowed in Texas.
Now, let's see if he cabes on that, or if he really does take a firm stand and we don't do it.
We shall see.
Now, they, there's, I mean, these people have a lot of, have a lot of citizens in Texas a lot.
And, um, you know, they are a voting block.
So, well, you notice that in the outskirts of Houston, uh, we also know partly through Brandon and Danielle about the outskirts of Dallas, you've got a surprising proliferation of mosques, and you also have a surprising number of Muslims, sometimes radicals, sometimes just Muslims, but running for all kinds of office, right?
School boards over here and city council over there and state rep over here.
And I think what you're saying about it is that this is not the same as other.
other immigrant groups.
Why is that?
Because they have one agenda and one agenda only.
It's Muslim only.
It's really, you know, I used to think because when I lived in Sugarland, Sugarland, as you know, I called it jokingly Sharia Land because we have a lot of Muslims there.
And I used to say, well, okay, so this Muslim is Republican and this one is Democrat.
And then I was like, you know what?
No, they actually aren't Republican or Democrat.
They only become whatever it is.
It is that helps their agenda.
So if they get something out of this group, they will vote this way.
If they get something out of that group, they vote that way.
So they're not really, we can't really say that they are one or the other.
They kind of go, whichever helps, whichever helps my cause.
All of this came to light in this very interesting case that we both followed, you more than me, the case of Washington versus Ali and Ali in Seattle.
And the case is very simple.
Lacey Washington, okay.
It's an Iraqi family.
The dad and mom are evidently quite devout.
They did not want their daughter to have a boyfriend.
Violating their wishes she did, and she also ran away from home, she shows up at her school where her boyfriend goes to school, and basically the two parents chased her down, the mom sat in the car or sat back, the father came out, grabbed the girl and was choking her, seemingly with an intention to choke her to death.
Her friends were unsuccessful.
in pulling him off, a local bus driver intervenes.
Anyway, the dad and the mom were charged with attempted murder.
Now what's interesting is that in the trial, the Islamic background of all this seemed to be erased.
That's right.
It was removed from sight.
The judge would not allow it.
And it was treated as quote domestic violence.
That's right.
And so talk about that.
Talk about how looking at a case, if you subtract the cultural context, you actually miss the point of what is going on.
Right.
jurors basically saw a dad physically abusing his daughter.
But not killing, not almost killing his daughter, but rather just physically abusing her.
They had no idea because they weren't given any directives that this dad had told her that he was going to kill her via honor killing if she did not comply with their wishes of marrying this man in Iraq, you know, leaving her boyfriend, all of those things.
They had no idea that this was even taking place.
So all they saw and there was a video that they were able to see.
All they saw is a very agitated father that was very upset because his daughter ran away from home.
Yeah, and they're probably thinking, now let's pursue this.
The jurors are probably thinking, well, listen, you know, I would be super mad if my son or daughter took off and worried me to death and then showed up with the girlfriend or the boyfriend in school.
I would want to go over there and choke him myself.
And so the jurors probably thought this dad got a little bit carried away.
And of course he was not trying to kill his own daughter, be serious.
Who would do that?
Who would do that?
That's crazy.
What he was trying to do is he got a little out of hand and yes, he applied a little too much force.
Happily, he was stopped.
The girl is evidently okay.
And so all we need to do is kind of get him on the lesser charge of what was it?
Domestic violence.
Domestic violence.
But the parents were acquitted on the more serious charge of attempted murder, even though you think that is exactly what they were attempting to do.
And if not there, surely elsewhere, home, maybe.
That's important because normally honor killings don't occur on a playground.
Right.
They normally occur.
And in fact, we depict this scene in our film Infidel.
One of the subplots involves an honor killing.
And of course, it occurs in a basement because that's where they these things probably normally happen, not in public.
Yeah, I'm sure Robert will have statistics of honor killings in America.
I'm sure he has all that.
Yeah.
And go over that with him.
All right.
Let's talk about this controversy right now with the runaway Texans.
These runaway Texans are Their view is really simple.
You need a quorum, which is a minimum number of people to hold a vote.
The Republicans are the majority.
They have the votes.
This is a case where the moderate Republicans and the MAGA Republicans are on the same side.
Everyone or the majority are on board with redistricting Texas, which will probably add as many as five more Republican seats.
The Democrats are super mad.
And it's, and the fact that, see, I think in the past, when the Democrats did the running away, which they've done before.
Yeah, in 2003.
Yeah.
But now I see Hakeem Jeffries is rushing to their defense.
They met with Janet Critz.ker, Beto is funding the effort through one of his past, as is Crockett.
And then Kathy Hochul is talking about it in New York.
And so it's become a national issue.
Why do you think that is?
Because the Dems, I think, they, because they know that they're losing the country and they're doing everything and anything possible to not lose the country.
Right.
So see, I think that if we just kind of let it play out, Democrats will stop losing elections, will start losing elections because people will realize., you know what, this is the party of the trans, this is the party of the illegal, this is the party of the criminal, this is the party of the criminally insane.
People are just going to go, I don't want that.
Massachusetts just announced that if you're an illegal, you qualify for up to thirty thousand dollars in an ensemble of benefits.
You get like a subway card, you get like food stamps, so EBT, you get a housing allowance, you get a health care allowance.
And I'm thinking, this is the Democratic Party.
I mean, by and large, even though Massachusetts may be seen as very left wing, the truth of it is pretty much all the mainstream Democrats support this kind of policy.
It may not be the same amount of money, but bringing illegals here and using taxpayer money to subsidize them, that is, you could almost call it the very first item on the Democratic platform.
That's right.
Yeah, but you know, when you look at it even further, they are the party of the criminal because even the legal criminals get better treatment from them, you know?
And not only that, they will fight harder to keep a Brego Garcia here, then they will fight to keep some agricultural worker who's being deported.
In other words, you notice that even among the illegals, the more the more you are dangerous, the more dangerous the agency are the harder the more lawyers come here and give you pro bono.
Yeah.
They'll represent you.
I mean, think about it.
Do you think people are being deported right now?
I don't see that guy in Maryland, Senator Van Hollen going down to Mexico to meet with some guy who worked in the agricultural fields in, let's just say, California and is now back in Mexico.ico.
He won't meet with him.
But he did go and had a margarita with Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
Why?
Is it solely because one was a Maryland man?
That's a big mystery to me because they would do better if they were actually the supporters of the people that are actually not like high criminals, right?
I mean, yes, see, the Democrats were to say, listen, the illegal thing went too far.
We're actually glad that Trump has shot that down.
And if they were to say, but there are people who have come to this country over the years.
They have mixed in with the population.
They've got jobs.
They're productive.
We are trying to at least ensure some due process for those people.
They would have a case to make, but that is not what they stand for.
In fact, that's not even their priority.
And what you're saying is that I think what you're saying is that when Republicans start playing by the same rules as Democrats, we win.
Well, okay.
So some people are like, yeah, this isn't the same Democratic Party of the past.
I beg to differ.
They're the same, one and the same.
Yeah, this is an issue where, you know, I'm not sure.
If people watched our movies and what I've been doing recently on Twitter and all my social media is reposting the links to watch Hillary's America, to watch America Imagine a World Without Our, because there is a kind of consistent narrative that runs through these films, the unifying theme is the meaning of America.
But one of the unifying themes is that the story that so many people tell, the Democratic Party used to be just great, just fine, but the Democratic Party left me, I didn't leave it.
This sing song routine, which by the way, even Reagan in America used it.
But when you know the roots of the Democratic Party, you realize these people were gangsters from the beginning.
The beginning.
And in fact, they might even have been worse in the 19th century.
Now, like any party, you've got better and worse people who are in it.
It's kind of like saying that even the mob is going to get, you know, this guy's a consigliary, he wasn't as bad as that guy.
Yeah.
Or in the Soviet Union.
Yeah.
You know, Andropov is bad, but he's not as bad as Lenin, and Lenin is not as bad as Stalin.
But guess what?
They're all good.
They're all bad.
They're all part of the same criminal gang.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, even Tammany Hall., which I was not familiar with until the movie.
I mean, they were ruthless, ruthless.
Oh, and not only that, they were brazenly cheating in elections.
You would come off the boat and they would hand you like a, a, a bottle of vodka and they would tell you, hey, listen, go see my friend Eddie down there on Third Street.
You know, he'll tell you where you can apply for a job as a loader.
And, and, by the way, we're going to come by later with a bunch of ballots for all your family.
The ballots will already be filled.
Yeah.
You know?
We're just going to take your thumbprint or we're going to sign for you.
I mean, this stuff has been, this is not new.
No.
The scale of it may be new.
It might have been, it might have reached a new height under COVID.
Yeah.
But Democrats have been doing shenanigans for a long time.
And, you know, I saw a post the other day on Facebook.
Somebody's like, Oh yeah, you know, eugenics.
These people are, and they were actually talking about eugenics as far as right-wing people, thinking that we believe in eugenics.
What were they referring to?
I was like, I don't even remember the post.
I just remember seeing the eugenics part of it.
And I was thinking, Okay, first of all, the eugenics that happened happened under Margaret Sanger, who was a devoted Democrat..
Eugenics was a progressive cause.
Right.
And many of the leading figures.
Now, by the way, there were some Republicans in the eugenics movement, but let's remember that in 1912, Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive.
That's why he broke with the Republican Party and ran on the so-called bull moose ticket.
His point was, I'm a progressive Republican.
So it's not even a simple matter of party.
It is that eugenics was seen as a cause of the future in which we eliminate all the so-called human weeds, to use Margaret Sanger's term.
Or the undeservice.
Right.
And isn't it amazing that with a straight face today, you'll have Democrats and leftists acting as if this has always been a conservative Republican cause or very disturbed to see the eugenic trends in the Republican Party.
No.
Even Planned Parenthood is deep, deeply rooted in the eugenics movement, not just once upon a time, now.
So eugenics has lived on.
One of the things we point out is that we're not just defining it as women's health.
Right.
One of the things we showed in Death of a Nation was that eugenics changed its name after World War two, right?
Because after World War two and everything that Hitler did, you couldn't call it eugenics.
So the new name population control.
Population control was, remember, a progressive cause in the sixties and seventies taken up by the left.
And so now it's women's health.
So benign names.
In fact, even eugenics was a benign name when it was first coined.
But of course, it was a benign name referring to a not very benign act.
And the same applies to a very evil act.
Very.
Even today.
All right, let's talk about the.
The Epstein files and also the Russia collusion.
I mean, there's a lot of activity going on with the House Oversight Committee.
I think you pointed out to me that they're hauling, they're bringing in Bill Clinton, right?
The Clintons both of them.
Yeah, to testify on that.
Now, in my view, and I said this very early on, in fact, I said this right in the big wave of Epstein hysteria.
I said, look, not that I'm not curious about the full story on Epstein.
I very much am, nor do I believe Epsteinin killed himself.
And there obviously is a list of Epstein patrons, right?
But that all being said, let's keep our eye on the ball.
And the ball is the attempt to frame Trump for Russia collusion.
That's where the prosecutions lie, that's where the big snakes are to be found, and we don't want to miss that one.
So you think this is kind of a side show or like deflection or the left would very much like to deflect back to Epstein.
Oh, Trump's name is in the files.
They know that Trump, they're not claiming that Trump was a patron or that Trump went to Epstein Island.
They're saying just that his name appears in the documents, which we actually know it does.
I mean, I've seen the section where Virginia Giuffrey talks about Trump, but not in a manner damaging to him at all.
In fact, she says, no, Trump didn't do anything.
But the left is nervous about the Russia collusion because they're being busted.
And so their strategy now is to, well, they would like to change the topic away from it completely.
But if they can't change the topic, they are now in a sense., covering their tracks by saying, we never accused Trump of being a Russian asset.
Think about this as if we were born yesterday.
They're like, we merely said that Russia tried to influence the result of the election.
We're not even saying that they changed the outcome, we're just saying that they attempted to influence the result by what?
Buying a couple of Facebook ads.
So this is so disingenuous.
I think that we answer them by saying, listen, we don't need to debate you on this, right?
We convene a grand jury.
We bring indictments.
It's all going to be fought out in court.
And that way you can say whatever you want on CNN and MSNBC, but once you begin to see that there are charges, indictments, filings and cross filings, testimony, we convene a jury, handcuffs, you're going to have to take this seriously.
You're not going to be able to get out of it and your serpentine rhetoric doesn't work on us the way it used to.
Yeah, and I'm wondering how much of that, you know, those players also played a part in twenty twenty because I would love to see people prosecuted for that as well.
You know, this is a great point.
That is, That is another huge Pandora's box, just waiting for the right people to open it.
Now, I'm sure that Trump is getting competing recommendations.
I know that he is very eager to get to the bottom of 2020.
We have heard, we have seen Trump up close on this topic.
We know.
But I also think that there are very powerful people around Trump who are saying to him, we know that you care about this, but it's in the rearview mirror.
So we can't.
What are we going to do?
We're not going to somehow put you back in 2020 or 2021 in office, that water is under the bridges, they say.
So let's keep our eye on what's ahead of us.
He's going to be faced with competing advice.
Yeah, but 2016 is also in the rearview mirror.
So, you know, if we are vindicated on that, hey, let's get vindicated on 2020.
Yeah, I could not agree.
I could not agree more.
In fact, 2020 is an even bigger deal than 2016 because think about it.
The whole execrable Biden record came out of that.
At least in 2016, Trump came into office.
They stymied him.
They tied him up for two years.
He faced all kinds of unjust insinuations and accusations, but he still was the president.
And by the way, he still managed to have a pretty successful economy.
He did a lot of other good things.
He got tax cuts until COVID, but 2021 to 2025 were the kind of nightmare years of America.
In fact, worse than Obama, I think.
When you look at the actual amount of persecution that was dealt out.
But I'm wondering if that's Obama plus.
It very well could be Obama plus., but what that means would be that Obama in his own time was hesitant to go that far.
He went further with his surrogate, Biden, than he did himself.
Yeah, he was the new kid on the block, so he couldn't really And not only that, but he had the undertow of two very bad midterm elections.
Remember, so when you're dealing with a hostile Congress, but see, Biden had the Congress.
That's right.
So they had the House and they had the Senate.
The damage was really great.
The damage was considerable.
And so getting the to the bottom of that, we can't undo.
I mean, in some ways, that record is what it is and we had to endure it.
But discrediting the Biden regime, if you could show that that whole thing was illegitimate from the beginning and do it in a convincing way and, like you say, if necessary, litigate it and hold people accountable, that would be.
Amazing.
Never a dull moment.
Never a dull moment is right.
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