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“RELIGION OF PEACE” Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep1138
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Coming up, Debbie and I are geared up for a top notch Friday roundup, we're going to talk about the religion of peace, or as Debbie sometimes calls it, the religion of peces.
Anyway, it's the increasing presence and influence of Muslims in the West, the massacre of Christians in Syria and other countries, whether Sydney Sweeney really has good genes, illegals and the left's virtue signaling.
And a very peculiar dark heart that Brian Koberger drew on a piece of paper during his sentencing.
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you you you Guys, Debbie and I here and ready to roll on a Friday roundup.
And honey, you are smashing as always.
And no, it's just that I had just got my hair done.
You got your hair done.
But it looks great.
It looks super good.
Thank you.
Yeah, I was going for a little bit lighter look, you know, on the hair to hide the grays a little more.
Well, your hair has a it has such a like a subtle combination of like red and brown.s, and now you have a like a slightly blondish streak.
Uh oh.
But I think you're still more on the brown side.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't want to go blonde, but I wanted to go a little lighter, just not blonde.
Yeah, you don't need it blonds have more fun.
Not necessarily.
Not necessarily.
Right.
I guess.
Yeah.
All right, let's talk about this.
There's a new poll, a survey from Pew Research, and Pew Research, you know, leans to the left.
But these findings are so startling that they're really worth reflecting on because we tend to believe., and this is all really foundational to the whole progressive idea, right?
That, hey, you conservatives are all the old people, you're dying out, the future belongs to us, you know, Obama, the arc of history bends in our direction.
Well, take a look at this.
Basically, if you look at the shift from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five, so just really in two years, you find that among the older people, you have a tilt, a slight tilt toward the Democrats.
So older people, by the way, are fairly evenly divided.
They were leaning a little bit more Republican, At least the men, and now they are, it's kind of very evenly balanced.
So that's interesting.
The Democrats have been gaining, although very modestly, for older people over 65, men D plus six and women D plus two.
Okay, but now contrast this with eighteen to twenty nine, which is the youngest cohort.
In twenty twenty three, the Democrats were dominant among men and women.
They had 62 percent of men and they had 65 percent of women.
So young people were like in the Democratic camp.
There's been a shift.
are plus forty four and among women are plus fourteen.
So among younger people, even women have swung to the right.
Now, in twenty twenty five, the Democrats still have a majority among women.
They're fifty eight and women are thirty seven percent on the Republican side.
But look at men, leaning Democratic, thirty four percent, leaning Republican, fifty two percent.
So the notable shift here, I mean, there is a shift that is more pronounced among men in all.
demographics, all cohorts.
But what we see is younger men and younger women moving right, but young men moving even more to the right.
And how do you I mean, I find this very encouraging and very positive, and I've seen a hint of it myself in the sense that I notice that young right wingers even look back at our generation, which is boomer generation.
You know, I'm at the end of boomer, you're at the beginning of generation X, I guess.
But they see us as like not sufficiently conservative.
Actually, they That's crazy.
I know, right?
I mean, we're pleased to hear it.
We're actually moderates, as it turns out.
Well, we're not.
But I think what it is, is that these young people have become so embittered against the establishment, against the powers that be.
They are so they feel the pinch of economic policy.
The attack on men in general.
The attack on men.
On white men.
On white men in particular.
This DEI has become so epidemic.
And I think also what happened is, you know, when I was in college, I saw the universities as run by these muddle headed liberals.
Some of them were older classical liberals, but they were kind of weak.
And then I saw these aggressive young activists coming up, and the struggle was between those groups, but I got along pretty well with both groups, maybe surprisingly enough.
I think these young people today, especially young men, they see the universities run by this twisted, woke matriarchy with a retinue of, you know, just amoral, emasculated men who are like viciously trampling on their chances to get into grad school, get good jobs, get promotions, it demonizes them, makes their life miserable on campus.
So they want to like strike out at these people, humiliate them, degrade them, ruin them, and I think that in some ways they're right.
The universities have gone so far that I don't even know if they can be salvaged in their current form.
Yeah, probably not.
But this is good because this is the result, right?
This is what happens.
The result is, I mean, I think that if these numbers are right and there's no reason to think they're not.
It portends a political earthquake.
I mean, it portends the fact that as the boomers fade out, you're going to see American politics move sharply right.
You're going to have a far right keeping its eye on the normal right.
I mean, these are people, you know, we saw a glimpse of this even with Trump, where when the Epstein issue came up, or even on immigration, these are people who like, they move in and they start bashing Trump from the right.
You're not doing enough.
Yeah, you've sealed the border, big deal.
Where are the deportations?
Or their view is, you promised us the Epstein names.
Give us the Epstein names.
And if one of the Trump Cabinet people goes, well, you know, we're reviewing the names.
These people go nuts.
And why are you reviewing the names?
We don't need you to have you, Pam Bondi, screen the names for us.
Give us the names.
We will figure it out.
Just release the information.
Be transparent.
So this is the kind of voice of the kind of, in a way, the hard right.
And while we're sympathetic to that group, I think it's probably accurate to say that we are not in that group.
I know.
Right?
So, and maybe you're in it even less.
than I am, right?
Because I think.
Yeah, you are more of a traditional Republican and you understand, I think, the flaws of the old Paul Ryan, Mick Romney model.
So I'm, you know, there's no way.
I'm not that.
You're not that at all.
No, no, no.
But I'm also not, I'm also not hardcore MAGA, you know, like I wouldn't call myself MAGA.
I, I'm a supporter of Trump.
I'm a supporter of his policies.
But I, I wouldn't go as far as to say that I'm MAGA.
Why is that?
Now, how do you, what is your idea of MAGA that differs from traditional Republican MAGA?
I think because I, because I really do like the Republican Partan Party is a good party.
You know, it's got really good bones.
And I think building up the party is the important thing because I fear that the MAGA movement will go away when Trump is no longer president.
Oh, yeah.
And so I want to make sure that the Republican Party has that MAGA spirit, but not necessarily MAGA.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
There is certainly a faction of MAGA that's like, we're not really Republican.
Yeah.
You know, we are actually members of this non-existent but nevertheless, you know, imaginative new party called MAGA, and we have no real loyalty to the Republican Party.
And I think what you're saying, which I agree with, by the way, is that, first of all, the Republican Party has a spectacular, remarkable track record in history, right?
We're a party rooted in all the right ideals, and this goes back to the second half of the 19th century.
The Democratic Party is responsible for a lot of the evils in American society and culture.
Still to this day.
Still to this day.
And American politics has fought team against team.
So there really is no.
way to fix the country by creating some other party.
The only other party that I would like to see created is on the left.
Right, you're saying to divide the left, right?
To create a wedge.
Exactly.
So maybe if they had a true Communist Party, it would be good.
Absolutely right, yeah.
Well, that true Communist Party is the Democrat.
So if the Democrats that are not communists, they're left, but they're not socialist communist left.
They maybe can form their own party.
And so they can divide their own people that way.
You know, it is they are struggling over, I think, this issue.
Your identity?
Well, in a way, I think Mom Dani, even though he's just running for mayor of New York, and it's just one office by itself.
And even if he wins, there's a limit to what he can do.
Somebody was asking me in my Locals QA, how is Mom Dani going to be different from, let's say, Brandon Johnson in Chicago or, you know, Beetlejuice before him or many of these other mayors in left-wing cities, London Breed in San Francisco or the Mayor, Karen Bass in LA.
And I said, you know, I don't think he's going to be different at all.
All these people are the same ilk, but rhetorically, he goes further than they do.
They won't even talk about like nationalizing businesses or seizing private property or taking over people's apartments.
This dude will do that.
He goes there, but probably in terms of actual governance will be the same.
But the point I'm getting at is that you're saying that the Democratic Party, they're going to have to decide what to do about this movement because, you know, talk about up and coming young people.
Up and coming young people are more Karen Bass and Mamdani than they are even Schumer and any traditional Democrat.
Yeah, no, I think They could very well be in trouble if this is the case.
Now with Mandami, I'm not really liking the fact that he, well, he's very far left, but he's also Islamic, and more than likely he's a radical Islamic.
That combination, I think, makes him a little bit more toxic than, say, even somebody in Chicago, than Betelgeuse or the new guy.
No, I mean, this guy is the actual physical realization of the theme in my book, The Enemy at Home, which was very controversial at the time.
even the conservative understanding has shifted.
So I publish a book basically saying that it's not just a clash of civilizations between us and them, but that the us is divided into a right and a left.
And our left wing has more in common with and strangely enough will ally with radical Muslims against the right.
That's exactly what's happened.
And not only that, a guy like Mom Dani, a part of him is basically Islamic and Islamist, and another part of him is classic anti colonial Obama left.
Seamlessly those two things go together.
But they do.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right?
Isn't that?
Yeah, but even more than that, because look, you know, the United States was allied with I mean, David Horowitz would talk about this all the time.
No, but what I'm saying is, like, look at World War two, honey, you know, the United States is allied with Stalin, right?
But were we Stalinists?
No.
We were just the enemy of our enemy, which the enemy was, of course, the Nazis.
We were able to ally with Stalin temporarily.
But notice with Mamdani, it's not like you have two completely disparate elements.
They seem to blend.
They seem to harmonize.
Donnie doesn't get up in the morning and go, Is this the left wing part of me or the Islamist part of me?
Because they're one and the same.
They're one and the same.
I think that's the point I'm trying to make.
Okay, let's talk about, let's talk about, um, um, Islam and the West because one of the phenomena we see it here in Texas, but it's happening in other parts of the country is we're seeing, uh, Muslims, many of whom had initially moved into cities, now moving into suburbs.
And they are building, sometimes, quite, um, conspicuous mosques.
They like to have public calls to prayer.
They have public gatherings.
They've talked about creating their own apartment complexes and neighborhoods.
Cities.
And cities.
And so this is a phenomenon that is unfamiliar to a lot of Americans.
But it's not new.
I've been, you know, I was very much on the front lines ten years ago on talking about this.
But I mean, even ten years ago is somewhat new, right?
It's new.
It's a decade ago.
Yeah, because we've had immigrants coming to this country.
We've had non-white immigrants coming to this country.
And it's not even like we haven't had ethnic neighborhoods, right?
We have Chinatown.
You have little.
little, you know, little Nigeria town, but typically those are inside cities.
And so this Islamic phenomenon, we sometimes talk about it.
I think we I think we're kind of on the same page, but we do disagree somewhat.
You find this phenomenon more disturbing than I do.
Now, why is that?
What is disturbing about it?
Well, first of all, if true, and again, you know, this is, you know, speculative, I guess, but if they really, if this, if the majority of Muslims want to create a caliphate and they're going to the West in order to do this because as you've seen videos in Italy,
you know, the Milan, London, all these places Berlin that are full of Muslims that are doing the call to prayer in public.
They have what's called no go zones, meaning you cannot go there unless you're Muslim.
If true, they run for local office.
A lot of Muslim mayors are British towns, for example.
Exactly.
And so if this, if indeed that is what they want, and they really don't want to coexist, they really want to just dominate and make you the, you know, I guess subordinate.
Subordinate to them, then I have a problem with that.
You know, the Chinatown, the Chinese in Chinatown aren't doing that.
Indians don't do that, Hindus don't do that, Jews don't do that, even Christians don't do that.
So again, it's problematic.
Even if it's just a small percentage of Muslims that do that, that's a lot of Muslims, because as you know, there's a lot of Muslims.
So we've created a very cohesive block.
And now people do say, by the way, that they're not the only ones who do this.
You know, Mormons have created a tribe.
Jews are to some degree a tribe.
Even Hindus are to some degree a tribe.
And by tribe, what I mean is they help each other.
You know, you'll have a guy who's, let's say, a Mormon, and we've known a few Mormons who are, by the way, great guys, and we've had one, Jerry Molen, who is key to our earlier films.
But the way Mormons operate in Salt Lake City and other places is they, you know, I notice that a Mormon guy makes sure to have a Mormon lawyer.
And if he's looking for an accountant, it's going to be a Mor Mormon accountant.
And so they keep the business and they keep the money in their own community.
So the Muslims are not unique, but I think what you're saying is that quite above and beyond the normal tribalism of self advancement, they have this sort of ambitious political agenda.
And they have warped customs, like, for example, honor killings.
I mean, I don't want that coming to America.
It actually did.
You know, I'm following a case.
I haven't actually gone back to see what happened.
What the outcome is.
What the outcome is.
I know that it was like on day nine of deliberations, I think, or I don't even know, but.
This is the husband and wife who are accused of attempted murder on their own daughter.
Strangling the daughter or having a non-Muslim boyfriend, basically.
Yes.
And so I don't want that to become, to become like normal here.
I just don't.
And I fear that this will become normal.
The more Muslims that move here and the more Muslims that move here and don't want to assimilate, but rather want to keep their customs, want to keep their honor killings, want to keep, you know, Sharia.
I don't want that here.
No.
Yeah.
And do you think it is best stopped by?
by stopping the immigration in the first place or do you think it is best stopped?
Because, you know, once you let people the problem with our country, I think is that immigrants are coming here and they're not like the old immigrants.
They don't care about assimilation.
They assimilate in certain ways, but they're not interested in giving up their culture.
They are not interested in giving up their political.
No, you don't have to give up your culture.
Just don't force me to be to be subordinate to your culture.
Don't force me to do that.
That's my fear of I don't care if you're Italian and you come and you don't care.
And you come and you, I am more, I don't care.
You know, you have your family, you're Italian.
You can speak Italian at home.
Go Italian would I serve pasta every day, no big deal.
Yeah, yeah.
I may not eat your pasta, although I would like to, but you know.
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Continuing on this topic of Islam, we have been seeing some pretty disturbing reports of Christians being targeted, persecuted, slaughtered.
Killed.
Slaughtered.
In places like Syria.
And you told me not just Syria, but we know this is also going on in a number of countries in Africa.
The Congo.
African countries, by the way, are sometimes quite suspended.
They're like fifty percent Islamic and fifty percent Christian, but the Muslims are more violent and they're more militant.
Yeah, and it's in the fact that they are striking Christians, like okay, so Pope Leo condemns brutal machete attack that killed forty nine Christians during a prayer vigil in the Congo.
Think about that.
The so called and they call themselves the religion of peace is going after the real religion of peace.
While they are worshiping their prayers and a machete.
Machete.
I mean, talk about barbaric, bloody.
Yes.
And the other thing about it is you can flip through the pages of major newspapers and not a word.
Nobody's talking about that.
Not a word on CNN, not a word on MSNBC.
It's almost as if if they don't cover it, it's not happening.
They're only talking about Gaza.
Right.
Gaza.
And they're not talking about the Christians that are being slaughtered in all these other places.
Even though these are civilians., right?
The big chant in Gaza is over civilians, right?
Civilians are starving.
Civilians, by the way, did you see the article?
I think they saw this yesterday.
It was about the fact that the authorities in Gaza are complaining that they are being humiliated because food is being dropped by the Israelis by plane.
So they don't want these airdrops.
They're like, we don't want to be humiliated by having to go around looking for these bags of food that are being dropped out of there.
I mean, I'm sure the Israelis feel it's not exactly all that safe.
Oh, yeah.
Being walking around Gaza.
There's a booby trap everywhere..
Where you have all these, you know, mines and booby traps set up all over the place, not to mention snipers.
And so the Israelis are like, okay, we can have food, but we're going to airdrop it.
Now, I think that tells you, I mean, think about it.
If you and I were starving, are we going to take the position, listen, we're very humiliated that bags of food are being dropped from the sky.
We're not going to go get them and bring them.
Come and put it in my hand.
Some homeless people act like that in America.
So And we don't, I mean, exactly.
Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, entitled is what we call entitled mentality.
So I, you know, I don't know, I don't know about the, the Gaza situation.
Now, Huckabee is supposed to be going to look into this, to see what's going on.
They're going to see, you know, if, are they really starving?
You know, what, what is the, what is the, what is the deal?
I saw Elizabeth Warren post it yesterday.
She said, well, because you know, they're masters of propaganda.
Yeah, well, I mean, people fall for it because...
I then look, open up Axios, and I see they're sharing the same photo.
Bernie Sanders was out in the Senate floor.
He had the same photo up there.
So they put out these lies.
Yeah, and then they.
And you remember when we, when we drove by the border and we saw these beautiful homes and, you know, people just, you know, being free and all that, and it's like, oh yeah, this is not something that you're going to see on TV.
We were driving through the West Bank.
Yeah.
Now the West Bank is somewhat, you know, people talk about the occupied territories.
The West Bank is really Judea and Samaria, but it is Palestinian territory.
It is controlled by the Palestinian Authority and to some degree Hamas, as you drive on the highway and look to your right, going north, you see these million dollar mansions.
And we were like, who lives there?
And they were like, oh no, that's not for Jews.
They're like, those are rich Palestinians.
And apparently a lot of those rich Palestinians, some of these rich Palestinians are Palestinian.
Others are rich Palestinians from abroad.
They live in London.
They live in Qatar.
They live in Amman, but they have second homes or they build mansions in the middle of Israel.
I mean, it's very eerie to see.
And like you say, this is not the image that most people have of these people at all.
Okay, let's talk about illegals.
And you gave me a couple of articles I'm going to pass over to you.
This is actually This is the Cincinnati issue.
Oh, this is the Cincinnati issue, which we're going to come to next.
But hold on to those.
We were talking about illegals and we were making a point that connected the issue of illegals to virtue signaling.
Right.
What were you saying about it?
Well, I saw this video that went viral of this girl.
She was in her workout, you know, she was in her Lululemons and her workout clothes, and the ICE came and was taking some, I don't know if he was a construction worker.
I don't really know where he took him from, but he handcuffed him.
He was taking him into one of the vehicles, and this woman was acting like a complete lunatic, yelling at the ICE guy, saying, you are you're a criminal.
You're taking him for no good reason.
You know, so she was basically advocating for this illegal and I you know I'm like and she wasn't the only one there were other older white women these are all white women yeah yeah doing the same thing and I thought why are they virtue signaling like what is the psychology of these people what is wrong with these people these are the first people that are gonna get like I hate to say it but you know robbed beaten raped yeah well look I mean I was saying this and
I want to kind of float this theory out there and that is this in a secular society when people are not getting their moral compass from self accountability.
And what I mean is normally think about it and certainly when you have moral accountability, you're going to say, these are the rules and I'm going to apply them to myself and see to what degree I have in my day lived up to my moral beliefs, right?
These are people who don't live up to their moral beliefs at all.
So they don't want to say things like, we have the ten commandments, which commandments have I violated today?
Because it's probably going to be like all ten.
So they but their moral instinct hasn''t gone away.
They still want to feel good about themselves, But they can't feel good about themselves based upon anything that they did because they are disgusting people.
And so what do they do?
They displace or transplant this moral instinct.
And so the beauty of virtue signaling is you don't have to actually do anything.
The beauty of virtue signaling is you have the moral indignation, it's never applied to yourself.
It's applied to some third party who is not living up to their moral lights.
And so what you're doing is you're looking at illegals, you're saying, I'm going to feel good about myself by taking the side of these underprivileged people.
Why?
Because I don't think they're going to rape me.
I don't think they're going to actually rob my neighborhood.
I live in a gated community.
I don't think they're going to take my job.
They're going to take some other farmer's job, some other agricultural worker's job, some other grocery guy's job, and so the cost of these moral convictions that I have aren't falling on me, they're falling on somebody else.
So this I think is the psychology of these people.
It's really despicable and but it is.
But it's a way for them to pay nothing and feel really good about themselves at the end of the day.
They can engage in major moral self congratulation.
They can all go to their little wine and cheese parties and exchange among themselves, oh, you know, this terrible, what's happening, these illegals, this is what I saw when I looked out of my window.
Oh, you won't believe what I saw, you know?
So this is the left.
I think this is the culture that they are creating among themselves.
Okay, let's trying to be even handed, but according to her, what's happening is, well, first of all, she uses the word fight.
You have one group of people barbarically beating this couple and the woman looks like she's been mutilated, but it's supposedly a fight.
Second of all, she's bashing social media, acting like you people are very irresponsible and sharing images of what happened, even though they're people on the scene.
They're taking actu Cincinnati a bad name and, moreover, you're not showing the full picture as if to say that, you know, there's some context that would change what you're seeing with your eyes.
You know, I mean, look, in the George Floyd video, we saw with our eyes, you can make a judgment of what you saw, and maybe there is some context that something happened before, something happened after, but it's not like your eyes, like what you see is inaccurate.
No.
In fact, the opposite.
No, this is really they arrested one guy, this black guy.
He was.
He I don't know if he's the one that that actual but here's here's a couple of photos.
So the photos are you have to turn your head away.
So the woman showed photos a couple of days ago and she had a black eye contusion in the eye, bloody, you know, big lip because of that.
I know that blood was coming out of her mouth when she was knocked to the ground.
And these people were kicking their heads.
Right.
And at first I was like, you do know that you can murder.
I mean, you could murder these people.
Are they like such bugs that they don't care that they can Well, you know, look, I mean, these are think of how someone becomes like that, right?
You don't become like that overnight.
You don't become a barbarian overnight.
What happens is you get into fights at school, you beat up other kids, nothing happens to you.
This, to me, was a beatdown for white people.
Right.
This was an attack on white people.
You can't avoid the racial element of it.
If you look at it, it looks to be.
The only component to this was racial.
And not only that, but I think there that when you see the police chief say, Let's not politicize this.
Let's tamp it down.
All you have to do is say, what if it were racially the reverse?
Oh, yeah.
Right.
It would be a national catastrophe.
I am all for getting someone on a hate crime, but it better be even.
It better be even handed.
This is Otherwise, we're not interested.
Yeah, this was a hate crime.
Right.
This was a hate crime, one hundred percent.
Right.
And the police chief was doing everything she could.
And by the way, you know, not to go into stereotypes, but she's your typical ponytailed overweight white woman, obviously somewhat woke and her whole thing was like, let's not bring up the racial element.
We are conducting a thorough investigation.
And I'm listening to this and I'm like, again, if this were a bunch of white guys beating the heck out of a bunch of black guys, your tone would not be the same.
It would be completely different.
And so this is what, you know, when we talk about we started out talking about young people and what makes them furious, it's this kind of stuff.
It's the double standards that are embedded in our institutional practices, companies that basically say, you know, we're only going to hire a person of color for this position or university scholarships where they're like the first question is, explain how you what diverse perspectives you bring to this even though the position has nothing to do with bringing a diverse perspective per se.
It's a MAT scholarship, for example.
And so it's the criminal justice system, it's the education system, it's the hiring system.
I mean, this country has gone down this road ever, you know, I think this, we have a generation that was a little bit wollyheaded over.
I have a dream, you know, Martin Luther King, the March on Selma, blah, blah, blah blah blah and all of that was right up to a point.
But the laws were changed in the nineteen sixties.
We didn't need fifty years of systematic racial one sidedness.
And we see it even in small things, right?
You and I watch, you know, we're watching shows and they have a procession of advertising.
Have you ever seen a normal white family in an ad?
Have you ever seen a situation where a black person doesn't know how to use a product and the white person is explaining it to them?
It's always the opposite.
The white guy's really stupid.
What do I do with this detergent?
The black person is like this is what you do.
This is how you and the white person like, oh yes, wise black person, you're showing us how we should get a better detergent.
I mean, it's just at some point, and you know, we're both persons of color to a, you know, and yet I'm more of color than you, by the way.
Just not my outward appearances, but I think if you run your 23 and me, it may be true.
A lot of colors, a lot of colors.
Well, you are you just have a you are basically drawn from the genetic stock of the entire planet.
I am.
Right?
I am.
And I am not.
In fact, I am there are not a lot of people in America who are racially unmixed.
I'm one of those people.
Yeah, exactly.
I haven't done twenty three and me, but I think if I did, it would come out one hundred percent.
Well, Danielle did it and she came out fifty percent.
Right.
Which shows, which shows that.
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Let's talk about this guy in New York with the AR 15.
Yeah.
I mean, it was a very disturbing sight, right?
You're looking at New York City, in fact, a familiar part of New York City, eight blocks from where I used to live in New York City, right off Central Park.
This is 52nd and, you know, on the Upper East Side.
And you have this guy walking with an AR into a corporate building.
And what do we know about that?
Well, apparently, I don't know a whole lot, but what I do know is that he had a grievance with the NFL because in his head, he concocted the idea that he used to play for the NFL.
And did he?
No, it turns out he did not.
Yeah.
He played football in high school, but he did not play for the NFL.
And there's a, I'm not even sure what the initial what the acronym is for it's a brain injury that football players get from banging their heads so much.
Yeah.
CTE or something like that.
I don't know.
Did he, so what happened to him?
So anyway, so he claims that that's what what he had thanks to the NFL.
Well, you know, obviously he was deranged because that's not the case.
Yeah.
And so, but he's deranged.
He's on medication for I don't even know for what, but obviously his condition.
His condition, and he yet he is given a license to carry a weapon from Nevada.
He's from Nevada.
He he drives all the way from Nevada to.
Then you tell me he's like a security guard?
He's a security guard at a casino.
And he gets a mentally deranged guy.
A mentally deranged person is able to get weapons.
And so he drives, basically, Nevada to New York.
Yes.
I mean, it's a little strange, right?
He drives to New York, he parks, he walks into the building, and you said he knew exactly where to go.
He knew, well, yeah, yeah, he knew where to go.
So it was a targeted?
Well, it was to the NFL.
He knew the NFL was there.
I don't know that he knew what floor they were on or anything like that.
But what I was telling you though is, it's interesting how, you know, we want to like say, oh, you know, this person, the AR fifteen s, that's the problem, all of that.
And I'm like, no, there should have been a guard with an AR fifteen at the entrance.
Oh, you're saying it takes an AR fifteen to get an AR to get someone with an AR fifteen.
I mean, I'm just saying.
Because if you have a guard with a normal revolver, he wouldn't be able to get it.
It's not an even fight, no.
And so if you have a guard with an AR fifteen, I know it's scary looking and I know it's probably very third world country looking.
Right, we're not used to people brandishing those kinds of guns.
No, but I do think that going forward, that might be something to consider.
You know, have guards that are, you know, at a movie theater, at a grocery store, I don't know, just public places, you know?
I think some people would find it, at least initially, disturbing because it's somewhat militarizes our society.
It is, but we have gotten to a place where I think that there are just too many lunatics running around.
I'm not saying guns running around, if you notice, it's lunatics who get a hold of guns.
But guns are easily available, and so the marriage of guns and lunacy is definitely bad.
We have these people should be in an institution, and they're not.
So they're in society., therefore, we are in danger in public places because these people get these guns and they do these things.
I want to bring up something I don't think you know about, but I want to talk about it probably early next week.
So Trump signed an executive order, which in effect is reopen the asylums.
Because going back to the 1980s, the courts Yeah, I remember.
Basically shut down the asylums, right?
They said that mental lunatics have civil rights to.
You cannot keep a lunatic in confinement against his or her will.
Yeah.
You have to let them go.
If they want to voluntarily turn themselves in, okay, but otherwise, no.
And obviously, these lunatics go out of the street.
I mean, the thing is, you know, the key part of being a lunatic is you don't know you're a lunatic.
Well, I've told you the story of when I was working for a language.
It was called Language USA, and I did translating or interpreting, rather.
And it was MHMR, which is, you know, it's a facility that houses people that have all kinds of disabilities, one of which is mental, you know.
And I go there.
It was my, I don't, I was probably only there like three weeks, you know, as doing this.
And I go there.
And first of all, everybody in the waiting area is talking.
And, okay, this is many years, this is like 20 years ago, right?
This is not when people have the headphones.
Oh, no, they're talking to themselves.
Right.
then I'm thinking whoa this is really weird so okay so I go into the office into the the office right with with the psychiatrist and the patient and the patient's mother the patient is probably in his mid thirties yeah okay and And he speaks only Spanish, so that's why I was there.
And so the, you know, the psychiatrist is just, you know, like very nonchalant.
Making notes.
Making notes, doing all that.
And then he goes, so, you know, so how can I help you today?
And so the guy all of a sudden, and I had no idea that he was a lunatic.
I just thought he was a patient of his that getting underpsychiatric.
Or maybe he had ADHD or something like that, you know, getting medication for that.
No, he goes, tell him that I'm going to kill him and then I'm going to kill you.
And I was like, I was hyperventilating., first of all, because that scared me.
Like, I just couldn't even believe he was telling me this.
Yeah.
So then I, you know, carefully went to and he wasn't phased at all.
The psychiatrist was like, Oh, okay, ooh, I gotta up this.
You know, like, I gotta up his medication.
I gotta make a note of it.
I gotta increase his medication.
And so I was just like, and I mean, and that was pretty much it.
He just kind of gave him, you know, a higher dosage of the medication he was on.
It was maybe antihallucinative or whatever, you know.
And he walks out with his mom and I sit there and I couldn't move.
And the psychiatrist is like, What's wrong?
I said, Well, first of all., I'm not getting in the elevator with that person.
I said, I am afraid of him.
Second of all, why isn't he in an institution?
And he laughed and said exactly what you just said.
He goes, well, I'll tell you why not, because he doesn't meet the criteria.
He hasn't killed anybody.
He hasn't killed anyone.
He just talks about killing people and talk by itself.
That's right.
It's not enough.
There's a criteria that everyone has to meet in order to be institutionalized, and he didn't meet it.
How can he not meet it?
So this is maybe what Trump is trying to change with this executive order, namely the idea that you've got got a lot of people, and of course we use this kind of loose language, right?
They're homeless, like if they're looking for homes.
You're talking about people who are addicts, right?
Drug addicts, alcoholics.
But would this person be a lunatic?
Schizophrenics.
Schizophrenics.
And some of them extremely violent and dangerous.
Yes, yes, as this guy was.
As this guy was.
And the question is, how is a society to deal with those people?
And so the assumption that you let them roam the streets, drop into restaurants and pick, you know, food from your plate, which is what they do in LA and other places.
This is totally unacceptable.
And so I'm glad to see this is something that for a long time people just felt like this is awful.
There's nothing we can do about it.
The courts have and Trump is like, guess what?
There's something going to happen.
Well, he wants to make America great again in a lot of ways.
And that means cleaning it up.
That's right.
Cleaning up the place.
All right.
Now let's talk about our friend.
I shouldn't say our friend.
I'm talking sarcastically, of course.
Oh my goodness.
Let's talk about Brian Koberger and a very interesting thing that you told me about in his sentence hearing.
So describe the scene.
Yeah.
Well, so apparently he drew this pic black heart on a piece of paper.
So he's sitting there and the victims are giving their victim information.
But he drew this before because he wasn't drawing as they were talking.
Oh, he had drawn it already.
He had drawn it.
Yeah, and it was just sitting there on the desk.
He wasn't looking at it at all.
He was looking at the people that were talking.
But apparently at the end of the hearing, he turned it over and he signed it or wrote something on the back and gave it to his attorney.
And she then like smiled at him, which so you described the scene to me and you're like, this is so inexplicably bizarre.
Bizarre.
Right?
What is he doing and what is she doing?
And to be honest, I don't know, but I was offering a theory and it's kind of worth considering.
my theory was this, that Kohlberger has some kind of autistic or quasi-autistic personality.
And as a consequence of that, he...
He sits there lacking empathy and listening to all these people talking.
talk about how terrible he is.
And even though internally he doesn't know that what he did is barbaric, he does know that society thinks that because he's hearing it, right?
He cannot deny that that is how people see him, right?
And since he knows that, he sits down and says, Well, what does that mean for me?
What does our society think about me?
They think I have a black heart.
They think that my heart is totally evil.
So I'm going to draw not myself.
Not my opinion of me, but their opinion of me a black heart, right?
Or maybe he thinks he has a black heart.
Or maybe he thinks he has a black heart.
And then because see, the behavior of his lawyer clearly is not autistic, right?
We have to explain.
Well, either wrong with her or something is going on in her head.
And what may be is that the reason she's not.
I've seen her smile at him many times.
Many times.
Really.
So she's definitely kind of fond of him.
And she even puts her arm around him.
Very so.
And so but it could also be that she thinks that there is some moral recognition on his part in that image.
So it could be that she smiles at him like as if to say, you know what?
Yes, this is a You do have a black heart, yes.
This is a correct description of what made you do those things, and I'm glad that you acknowledge it in this.
I mean, this, I don't know if this is a correct interpretation.
I mean, I'm giving you, I'm not giving you like a psychiatrist interpretation.
I'm giving you if I saw this as an image in a literary novel, that's how I would read it.
I would try to read it in terms of the symbolism of what you see and in terms of the interaction between the two.
the interaction between an autistic person and a normal person.
And the normal person is like, why did he draw that?
Oh, I see.
He is at some level at least acknowledging here, maybe for the first time, I've got a black heart.
That's why I did these things.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Okay, let's talk about let's talk about Sydney Sweeney.
Yeah.
When I was talking about it earlier, but what about you had never heard of her?
I've never well, I didn't know who she was.
Yeah.
I had no idea who she was.
Yeah.
And you're like, oh yeah, Sydney Sweeney.
I'm not saying that.
I mean, I'm not saying that.
You know, look, I only knew about her because I knew she has stoked up the autistic person.
The cultural reaction.
Now there are Democrats, I will say, kind of later in the week, later this week, who have been backing off and saying, hey, listen, you know, we haven't been complaining about this ad.
In a sense, I think they've realized that this is backfiring on them big time.
They don't want to be in a situation where their idea of beauty is some trans female and then the right wing idea of beauty is Sydney Sweeney.
I mean, they're going to lose that fight every time.
And it's kind of dawned on them that that doesn't make them look good.
So they're now acting like it's not us who's objecting.
But the truth of it is there are a lot of people who are objecting.
And they are tending to be the big fat, angry woman type or the really, the nose ring, blue hair type or the LGBTQ type.
I've seen the most, I've seen about maybe a dozen videos of like, this is terrible.
One or two are actually from black women where they think this is some kind of statement of white supremacy.
Now, hey, if you show them Beyonce posing in exactly the same pose, they would have no problem with it.
You know, they would have no problem with the same kind of casual, sort of sexuality type pose.
But with Sydney Sweeney, like, you can't do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think of all this?
Well, I mean, I don't know.
It kind of reminded me a little bit of when Brooke Shields did her Calvin Klein pants.
Oh, wow.
You're flashing back like good thirty years.
Yeah.
And I say this because I had to get those pants, okay, and she's like 5'10.
I'm 5'1 on a good day, okay?
And so I I love getting those pants.
Now let me ask you, this is this is a little bit of a this is a little bit of a quiz and and you may conclude from this that I'm a little bit of a pervert although I'm not.
Oh my god.
No, no, no, here's the quiz.
What?
What was the actual wording of the Brook Shields ad for Jordash jeans.
You remember?
Well, for Calvin Klein.
Oh, Calvin Klein, sorry.
I did Jordash later.
Yeah.
This is the only thing that comes between my legs.
Okay, so you actually win.
I didn't know if you would remember it.
What comes between me and my Calvin?
Nothing.
Yeah, nothing.
Right?
And that was like, ah, it was like a shocker.
It was a shocker, but I didn't care.
I just wanted those jeans.
But it showed that the ad worked.
It worked.
Oh, absolutely.
It worked on you.
But it worked except that I tried on those jeans and they were way too long.
Yeah.
Good.
way too long.
They were like a foot too long.
Right.
And so then I was like, okay, well maybe someday, some day.
Some retailer will make petite clothing.
Well, you know what's interesting is that it's interesting how a cultural context shapes how people respond to an ad.
So let's look at the Brookshields ad.
Nobody even noticed that said Brookshields is white.
That was taken for granted.
Of course, Brookshields is white.
What else would she be?
The fact that you have a white girl, like white bread, you know, a kind of all American girl was accepted.
It was like, of course, what else would you have?
You know, this is America.
So you wouldn't expect to see like a Japanese girl any more than you expect to see, you know, a an Asian Indian being a model in Japan, you know?
So the only thing that people were found titillating was the idea of Brooke Shields, who had by the way been a child actress and was here exhibiting a sort of very sexual emerging sexuality and the controversy was over that.
Yeah.
Now, interestingly, with Sydney Sweeney, it's not over that.
No.
It's over her genes.
It's over her genes, which is to say the pun on genes and genetics.
Yeah.
Right?
And I think they are implying that even though I think the.
ad guys were basically going for, hey, Sydney Sweeney looks good, she has good jeans, they're implying that there's a white supremacist message in here.
Yeah, that and also the other thing too is, you know, growing up loving Barbies.
Barbies were blonde.
And very skinny.
And very skinny.
You know, and so that was the ideal way a girl was supposed to look, right?
Right.
And nobody complained.
I mean, I guess they complained later and now we don't have Barbies like that anymore, I don't think.
I don't know.
I haven't bought a Barbie in a while.
No, they but you're right.
They have been doing some woke Barbies.
Yeah.
And not only that, but if you look at ads for, like, Calvin Klein just two years ago, I mean, they have, like, a 250 pound black woman.
All I care about is if Calvin Klein can have petite sizes, okay?
No, I know, but what I'm saying is, you know, an ad conveys, these are the type of people we want to show you as wearing our products, right?
So if you look and you see some, you know, some trans person wearing these jeans, you're like, well, these must be jeans for trans people, right?
You you're antagonized by it to a degree.
And also you the other thing you know is you you know that they are conducting a cultural aggression against the idea of an American culture and an American standard.
I think if we just don't give them the attention, if we just ignore them, no, no, right.
They'll go away.
No, no, I don't think so.
What?
Because that's your strategy in these things is basically your strategy is to look the other way, to pretend it doesn't exist.
My strategy is to bring out the political horse whip and to flay them, because that's actually what they respond to.
Hi, Chico.
So here we see the difference between a traditional Republican and a MAGA conservative.
It's the horse whip.
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