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CRIME FAMILY Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep1099
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Coming up, Debbie and I are ready for our Friday roundup.
We're going to cover a bunch of stuff.
The Biden judge stopping the deportation of Mr. Muhammad and his family.
The showdown between Elon Musk and Trump over the big, beautiful bill.
The criminal history of Letitia James' family.
Wait till you hear about that.
Why rent control in New York would be a disaster and China's plan for harming everyone, including apparently themselves.
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We are ready, Debbie and I, for our roundup.
And boy, we have a lot of stuff to cover.
I thought we could begin with something that just happened, an important decision from the Supreme Court.
And the interesting thing about this decision Wow, 9 to 0. You have a very low standard of proof.
In fact, if there is an imbalance of workers in a certain part of the workforce, they assume that you're being discriminated against.
And the company has to explain why they're not discriminating.
The quota.
Yeah, kind of a built-in quota system, right?
However, if you're a white person and you sue, none of this applies.
Because you're not a minority.
Because you're not a minority.
So you're presumed to be a member of the discriminator class.
The oppressor.
That's right.
It's not that you can never win, but it's really hard to win.
So what the Supreme Court did is they took this phrase that we've been hearing now for many years, reverse discrimination, and they basically go, there's no such thing.
There's only discrimination.
Whether you're white, whether you're not white, whether you're straight, whether you're gay, because apparently you had this woman who was passed over for jobs and promotions because she wasn't gay.
They wanted to give it to a gay person, right?
So what the court said is, enough of all this, you're a member of the oppressor group or the victim group.
Yes, discrimination is restricted under the Civil Rights Act, but if you're white, you have exactly the same level of protection.
As if you are non-white.
If you're straight, you have the same protection as if you're gay.
So, in other words, there's no kind of double standard.
Nobody gets an advantage, basically.
Nobody gets an advantage.
So, a very good thing.
And I think it's pretty striking that not only Elena Kagan and Sotomayor, but Ketanji Jackson also were making some progress.
And I think it also, it cuts a little bit against this idea that the court is so divided.
I mean, the country is divided, but the court in some ways perhaps less divided than the country.
Yeah, I think they are actually less divided than.
the country.
I don't think they are as, you know, I don't think they're as polarizing towards each other as the country.
Well, for one, we know that they're They do.
And the precedent was set years back when Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg They would go to the opera.
No, I mean, they actually said they were best friends.
Yeah.
They claimed to be best friends, which I thought was pretty amazing.
Pretty amazing and pretty interesting.
On another note, the Trump administration, the Department of Education has apparently notified The Middle States Commission on Higher Education.
This is the accrediting agency.
So colleges, in order to operate, need accreditation.
Otherwise, they're unaccredited and your degree has less value.
The left set up this whole system.
And the reason they set it up is it's a way for them to control what happens in these colleges.
And they've been using the accreditor system.
Here's Bob Jones University, and they practice racial discrimination, so let's pull their accreditation.
They've been using it as a lever of strong-arming private institutions.
So what the Trump administration is doing is they're using the same weapon in the same way, but this time against the Ivy League.
Now, we're all familiar with Harvard, but this is Columbia.
Basically, what's happened is, I'm now going to quote, The Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights has determined that Colombia has acted with deliberate indifference toward the harassment of Jewish students, violating Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
This is sort of like hate crimes, right?
And the Trump administration is saying, we're going to now notify the middle state's accreditation agency, which will give Colombia a chance to either be in conformity with the law or have its accreditation.
Pulled.
So, I mean, I have to confess I'm not only surprised but kind of impressed at the bare-knuckled approach.
That Trump is using against these Ivy League schools.
Yeah.
I mean, they have openly mobilized against him.
They're like, let's put a brain trust together to help make the legal case against him.
Let's try to put this guy in jail.
I think J.D. Vance noted that only in the Ivy League you have voting habits on the part of the faculty and the administration that are like, they show the kind of numbers you get out of North Korea, where like 97% of people, you know, are all on one side and virtually no one is on the other side.
So these places have become...
That they are hotbeds of terrorist sentiment.
Oh, 100%.
100%.
Not only are they, this is really, I think, where these terrorists kind of congregate and where they get their juice.
You know, they kind of get their power from these rallies.
And I would be willing to bet the majority of jihadists that we have in this country are at those rallies.
Oh, interesting.
You know, I read something pretty fascinating.
This was a post that came out of the Middle East of all places.
And it said that in Gaza, and even on the West Bank, you have a lot of people who are, they don't like Hamas.
And the reason they don't like Hamas is because it's not even that they are not on board with Hamas regarding Israel.
Here's what happens.
The aid trucks show up, and Hamas swoops in and grabs all the aid, puts it into their own private storehouses, and then hands it out on its own.
So Hamas is intercepting the aid, right?
So they're not members of that club.
They're not members of the inside club, apparently, right?
Now, but this post goes on to say, so that is the experience of people who actually deal with Hamas.
Their experience is wholly different.
They don't deal with Hamas.
They're not standing in line for aid.
They go eat at the dining hall.
You know what I mean?
These are coddled, often quite wealthy leftists.
And so they become like, Hamas, yeah, we're on Hamas's side because they're sort of, they've got the Greta Thunberg view.
Well, they buy the propaganda.
They create the propaganda.
Well, Hamas, they're geniuses at propaganda.
I mean, I've watched all of these propaganda videos that they have.
Not only do they make propaganda videos using the hostages.
The Israeli hostages.
They make those.
But they also make videos that if they release a hostage, they make a whole video and they edit it and they do music.
It's like a movie of them coming out of captivity.
And it's used for propaganda and propaganda only.
To say, look how we're treating these people.
Not the evil monsters that you guys say we are.
We are really nice.
Look what we're doing.
We even have a puppy here, and we're giving it to the little girl that was kidnapped at gunpoint, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, with her little puppy.
And look, she's coming out with her puppy.
We didn't kill her puppy, although they do like to kill puppies, just FYI.
You showed me a couple of videos where And this is, I suppose, you know, what do they call it?
Stockholm syndrome or Munchausen, where the release captors are like waving at- Right.
Waving, like as in like, oh, we shall see you again, you know.
We're going to miss this experience.
Yes, yes.
Oh, this was a fun summer camp.
We'll see you soon, you know, kind of like that.
But also when they do the propaganda videos when they're in captivity – They're made to say that, and so it's under coercion.
And of course, when they come out, they tell the truth.
Right, once they're in the safety, and then probably once they've been, once they have had a chance to sort of be, But yeah, so to your point, no, I think that these people, these protesters that are very much pro-Hamas, because let's face it, they're pro-Hamas.
Let's bring the terrorism issue home to this guy, Mohammed Suleman.
This is the guy who firebombed.
And remember, this is coming in the wake of the shooting of those two kids.
I mean, one of them evidently a Messianic Jew, which is to say a Christian, and the girl was Jewish, and they were about to be engaged.
And then so shortly after that, you have this incident in Boulder, Colorado.
And now, interestingly, a Biden judge says, That you can't, at least temporarily, he's put a TRO, a temporary restraining order.
You cannot deport this guy's family.
And he very, like, loftily goes, well, you know, there's a long tradition in the West.
You know, we don't hold family members responsible.
Isn't he illegal?
He's illegal and his family's illegal.
Then why can't they deport them?
I thought you'd deport illegals.
Yeah, so this is basically what the left is doing.
Having brought these people here, It's almost like they've activated their judicial brigade.
And their point is, they can't say you have to keep illegals here.
So here's what they do say.
The illegals have to get due process.
They kind of do say that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what I'm saying is that's not their stated.
Of course.
What they're getting at is, this is their game.
Their game is, why don't we try to make it so the Trump administration has to have trials for everybody?
Everybody knows you can't try 8 million people, right?
So you cannot have any kind of mass deportation operation based upon everybody gets a day in court, you can bring your lawyer.
So it's a game of stalling.
Very similar, by the way, to what's happening in the governmental bureaucracy, where people, a lot of times, sometimes, of course, they quit.
But other times, it's like you just kind of stand stiff.
And while someone's trying to remove you, you don't cooperate in any way.
You try to just slow things down.
I think that's what's going on.
But I mean, isn't it unconscionable that right in the aftermath of this horrific attack by this guy and the knowledge, they're not disputing that they're all illegal.
They are illegal.
It's just they're disputing that the Trump administration can't just say, all right, well, we don't want these kinds of people here.
All of you need to go home.
Yeah.
This hill that the Democrats are dying on is quite, like, it's so bold.
Like, you know, they're not hiding it.
They're not hiding it.
They want, they like criminals, right?
They're fighting for the criminals.
I mean, look at the judge that just said, you know, that all these Venezuelan guys that are in the prison in El Salvador.
Have to come back to get due process, you know, because some of them weren't actually criminals.
Well, you know, they're criminals.
If they came here illegally, they are criminals.
Yeah, and also, I mean, they haven't even given up on Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
I still hear Senator Chris Van Hollen.
I still hear Democratic Congress, you know, what happened to Kilmar Garcia?
Why isn't he, you know, so I have not seen a political party.
Ever fight so hard for people who are not even from the country?
For criminals.
Yeah, and criminal aliens.
criminally and terrorists.
In this case...
I mean, who would have thought...
Who would have thought that the Democrats would actually be protecting the very people that came to harm us?
And that's what they're doing.
That's what they're doing.
And I do believe that we are going to have an attack like 9-11 or October 7th, something along those lines, soon.
I mean, isn't it, in some ways, who can be surprised, right?
Now, Trump has just recently imposed these, you know, no-entry requirements for a bunch of countries.
But I would have to say that in general, How do we vet people from other countries, right?
Take me, for example.
I grew up on, you've seen where I grew up, and I grew up in a rather peripheral town on the outskirts of Bombay.
I show up for my immigration interview.
Now, obviously, I'm a peaceful guy and no threat to the country, and I've long been a U.S. citizen now and all, but here's what I'm saying.
What is the ability of any U.S. administration to know how I grew up?
Where I went to school, who my friends were, what my family is like, what imam I was studying under.
But you're not a Muslim.
No, I'm not.
I'm just making a generic point.
It would follow that you're not a Muslim.
No, no, no.
My general point is just that we have no capacity.
For a hundred countries around the world to have any inside access.
Proper vetting.
Yeah, any kind of proper vetting at all.
Yeah.
Well, as you know, I often talk about this, but when I was in college, I met some foreign students that did not like America.
And why they were here?
Big mystery to me.
In fact, didn't one of them even snort out something to the effect that we're here because you people are so stupid.
Yeah, you're stupid and you let us.
Yeah, exactly.
And this was 1986.
And this was a guy that was related, told me he was related to the Beirut bomber.
That would seem to be like something like you would have thought that it was like a christening or something.
It was like, that was the first time I'd ever heard a Muslim tout jihad like that.
And, you know, this was early in the, this was in the 80s.
So before 9-11, you know?
Yeah, no, the Beirut bombing, I remember quite well in the sense that it was in the very early years of Reagan.
It was a massive attack.
And yet, I think in some ways, I and many others didn't grasp the significance of it because we were viewing things through the lens of the Cold War.
Right.
So this appeared to be almost like an anomaly.
Yeah, like a distraction, actually.
Like, what's that all about?
Right.
What's eating those guys?
Right, right, right.
Exactly.
Oh, yeah.
They're just fundamentalists.
You know, they're just crazy.
Right.
But not like, as in, they're going to be a threat to us, like in the future.
Who knew that that was cooking into something?
Well, of course, we should have known because...
And many people thought at that time that it might collapse and that Iran might go back to something resembling what it was like under the Shah.
But that never happened.
No, no.
I actually thought Iran was a problem even then.
I often talked about, I hope they never get nukes because we're done for if they do.
And this is back in the 80s.
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Let's talk about the showdown between Elon Musk and Trump over this big, beautiful bill.
Now, here's something that's really kind of odd.
And that is, you remember that as the bill was being discussed in the House, you had these sort of hardcore Republican budget cutters, right?
Guys, Chip Roy was in that group.
Thomas Massey was in that group.
There were many others.
A lot of them coming out of the House Freedom Caucus.
And their view was, we're not signing on this bill unless there are further budget cuts, right?
Essentially, what happened is that the Trump administration was able to prevail on those guys and say, look, let's get it through.
They did make some compromises, but not many.
So the bill as is was very acceptable to Trump.
I think that's ultimately why everybody kind of folded and signed, at least enough to get it across.
Now, the reason I mention all this is that at that point, Elon Musk didn't say anything.
Elon Musk was pretty quiet.
Now that the bill has been approved in the House, and it's now gone to the Senate, and the Senate needs to sign off on it, and there's some holdouts, but I think there's going to be enough to pass it in the Senate, Elon Musk is like, kill the bill!
This will bankrupt the country!
I'm only saying this because, I mean, I'm a huge fan of Elon Musk.
And I think on the substance, his basic point, which is we cannot take in three and a half, $3.6 trillion and spend six.
That has got to stop.
Who could disagree?
I mean, I agree 100% with that.
But the...
He could have had more impact on the bill early on, but he waited and let the bill go across the finish line, at least in the House.
And now he's like, let's go back to the drawing board.
And I can kind of see why not only Trump, but also Mike Johnson, probably also Thune.
Are like, wait, what's up with you now where you're suddenly throwing this major tantrum over the bill?
So my question is not about the merits on which I agree with Elon Musk, but about the timing of this critique.
What do you make of it?
Have you had any thoughts about this?
Yeah, I mean, you know, he marches to his own beat.
Yeah, I mean, I gotta say, and this is a good thing, he's politically fearless.
It doesn't matter that he's been seen like every day with Trump.
He's been going to all these meetings.
If he thinks this is bad for the country, I've got to say, I think he is truly America first in that sense.
He cares about the country.
Yeah.
And he doesn't want the country to go down the tubes.
Right.
But I don't think, you know how I always talk about, you know, in Venezuela, people don't like Maria Corina because they don't think she's far right enough.
I'm like, guys, you have to, you can't go from far left communist to far right.
You just can't.
In one stroke.
In one stroke.
You have to kind of go in increments.
You have to meet in the middle.
And then from there, fight it out after you get there.
I kind of think the same here in this case.
I don't think we're going to solve our debt problem at all.
And I don't think we would solve it even if we were able to slash.
You know, two trillion dollars.
I don't think we would.
How many trillions of dollars are we in debt?
Well, we're up 38. 30-something, yeah.
Moving close to 40. So I think it's kind of like that ship has already sailed.
I think we are going to be in debt no matter what.
But the problem is this bill, if not signed, the tax cut will expire, right?
The tax cuts, I mean, it's much more than that.
I mean, the bill is really good on border security.
It hires 10,000 new border patrol agents.
But I mean, besides that, I'm sure that's great.
However, do you want your taxes to go up 68%?
I think that's what Trump said that would happen.
Yeah.
Well, the truth of it is there was a very good Trump tax cut in 2017, but it was...
Right, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
So the idea that we should be giving more of our tax money to the government is outrageous because those guys, if they even knew that there's another dollar on its way, they would start spending it immediately.
You know, that reminds me of that Instagram thing with Dave Ramsey when that guy called in.
And he was Korean, right?
He calls in and he goes, Do you think it's bad that, like, my wife doesn't know that we're millionaires?
Remember that?
He wasn't messing up on how much money he had.
Yes, yes.
And then Dave Ramsey's like, what?
Your wife doesn't know that you're a millionaire?
Well, actually, no, because she's a really big spender.
And I'm afraid if she finds out how much money we have in the bank, she's going to go nuts and she's going to spend more.
He goes, I think you have bigger problems.
You were listening to it and I was kind of overhearing it.
I had some sympathy for the guy.
I have to say, well, no, I don't agree with him.
I do think that marriage is based upon full disclosure.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, but here's what I mean.
Is there something I'm supposed to know?
No, no.
The guy was, I think the guy was in a bit of a bind because I think what he was saying, and look, it's his own fault because what he should have done is up front.
First of all, I don't know how long he's been married or any of that, right?
Five years.
So you got the idea that what happened is he got married first.
Then he discovers that his wife is like a big spender.
Then he decides, well, look, I'm going to have to sort of deal with this, but I better not let on because if she thought we have all this money, she's going to ramp up the spending.
What I'm saying is this train has been off the rails the whole time.
From the beginning.
From the beginning.
Yeah, no.
No, but I mean, I think Dave Ramsey was horrified.
You know how he likes to save money, right?
Oh, yeah.
He obviously doesn't want the wife to go nuts, but he's like, listen, you're not being honest about your financial with your wife, and that's a very bad problem.
This really shows you, and we'll obviously come back to our topic about the big, beautiful bill, but what I think it shows- Well, I think it shows you, though, something very good about Dave Ramsey, which is that ultimately he's a finance guy, but his financial advice is embedded inside of a moral framework, right?
Moral framework.
So, for example, what he would say here is, saving money is good.
But having a proper family structure is better.
Honest relationship.
That's more important.
And so even if your finances become more jeopardized because you have to sort of fess up, it's better to do that and then work out an acceptable arrangement rather than to continue in this kind of program of deceit.
Right.
Now, if you had to vote up or down on this big, beautiful bill, Given the Musk critique, given the bill has good things, but it obviously also doesn't do enough on the spending side, my view is go for it.
Yeah, no, for sure.
I think we should go for it.
I think we should give people a relief in taxes.
I think that the economy will grow from it.
Once we...
Then we can go in and actually study it a little more and maybe do make a few more cuts.
But we can't do that right now.
We don't have the House, really.
I mean, in fairness, Congress is taking up some doge cuts.
Now, they're pretty modest, right?
The first round is basically $10 billion, which, by the way, is a lot of money.
But it's not a lot of money in the big scheme of things.
Yeah, because it's B and not T. Correct.
Well put.
But I think that, hey, look.
Taking a billion away from NPR and PBS, how great is that?
No, that's wonderful.
Slashing a bunch of useless USAID and foreign aid programs, awesome.
So a lot of these priorities will get sidelined if the bill crashes into the rocks.
And by the way, these are a lot of things that Trump campaigned on, right?
The Keystone Pipeline, unleashing energy, making the tax cuts permanent, securing the border, getting rid of all those excess IRS agents.
I mean, all of this is in there.
Yeah.
So a lot of the priorities of our side are in this bill.
And so I say that having looked at it more closely, on the balance, it's a very good.
I mean, I do like it.
You drew to my attention this issue about a judge, something about hormone therapy for transgenders.
What the heck is this all about?
Yeah, so federal prisons must keep providing...
Yeah.
They must continue providing this.
I had no idea that they were doing it.
I think it's disgusting.
It prohibits prison officials from arbitrarily depriving inmates of medications and other lifestyle accommodations.
You know, this is just crazy.
And you know the reason – and it is super expensive.
I don't know really how other women, women that cannot afford to do this, can live.
Because let me tell you, when you, and there are a lot of us, because obviously all of the teenagers of the 80s are now post-menopausal, right?
They're going through menopause, some of them now, you know, four years ago, five years ago.
Anyway, all that to say is that these hormone replacement therapies are extremely expensive, and we have to pay out of pocket.
So it makes me really mad that the taxpayer is paying for fake women to get hormone replacement therapy and not real women to get it.
I mean, this is nuts.
You know what I mean?
It's dramatized by what you just said, right?
I mean, it's bad enough on the face of it.
It is prima facie.
Because we're not talking about people getting, you know, shots for their asthma.
No.
We're talking about the equivalent of plastic surgery.
Yeah.
For prison inmates.
For prison inmates, yes.
For real women like me, no.
Because as you know, the women that, you know, as you age, you start losing estrogen, you lose testosterone, you lose all kinds of hormones.
And the replacement, it doesn't get you back to the way you were at 25 or 30, but it at least keeps you balanced.
You know I suffer from frozen shoulder, my hips.
Those things are very much compromised when your estrogen levels go down.
Right.
And so I'm getting replacement so that I can at least live a normal or semi-normal life without gaining a bunch of weight, which that's what happened.
You gain an extra 20, 30 pounds on top of it because estrogen plays a role in that too.
And so, yes, real women cannot get hormone replacement therapy.
So what you're saying is that the government doesn't pay...
Yeah, no.
Why on earth are they doing this?
Exactly right.
That's my question.
Is that for real women, this is not even, they don't even consider it.
But for fake women, oh yeah, let's give them their hormones.
Let's give them their shots.
Let's do this.
Let's do that.
You know, what is going on?
What is going on?
Well, let's turn to what is going on with Letitia James because I've got some funny stuff to tell you.
Okay.
We haven't actually talked about this.
I know!
But Letitia James, as you know, is in hot water because she has evidently been lying on mortgage applications.
And claiming that she lives in Virginia, which is obviously not true.
She lives in Brooklyn.
And so to get these benefits, it has to be your primary residence.
So she claimed that a primary residence is...
So now she's busted, right?
And there's, in fact, a DOJ investigation going on, and she could very well be charged.
It would be just great if she is.
Oh my gosh.
Right, I mean the very person who was using She was using real estate and financial disclosure to get Trump.
She's what I call a dumb criminal.
Yeah, right?
Exactly.
It's like, I'm going to accuse the...
Right, but so she gave a speech, and this speech is a classic unto itself, because in the speech, what she basically said is, she kinda had to admit, right, that she had not been accurate on these applications.
So she acted like, So she's acting like benevolence caused me to do this.
Yes, it was an administrative.
Deceit, but I was well-motivated.
So basically the equivalent, I robbed the bank because my family's starving.
Pretty much.
But our friend Joel Gilbert, who's a very good, he's a filmmaker, by the way, but he's also an investigative writer.
He basically says, all right, let me go check into this niece and her children, right?
So here we go.
So apparently the niece...
She's 53 years old.
She's the niece.
53-year-old niece.
Let's not even go into that, right?
But no surprise.
It can happen.
Yeah, it can happen.
No surprise.
Her children.
Are adults, right?
They're obviously, a 53-year-old woman doesn't have two-year-olds, right?
So they're adults, and not only are they adults, they both have long criminal histories, right?
So let's go into it.
Her adult daughter, Nankala Hairston, was 20 years old when apparently Letitia James signed...
But Kayla has multiple arrests on her record.
A felony charged for violating a Virginia law prohibiting firearm possession by convicted felons, which means she's already a felon on another account.
And now she, as a felon, is possessing a firearm.
And she's also been charged with making false statements on criminal history consent forms.
And she was arrested for, this is Kayla Hairston, arrested in June 2024 for grand larceny.
Then we turn to the other daughter, whose name is Shamice, and she's 36. No, I'm sorry, Shamice's 36-year-old daughter, Nakia Monique Thompson.
Let me read you this.
Her crimes spanned 20 years in the states of Virginia and North Carolina, include multiple prison sentences and convictions for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, abuse of a child, possession of burglary tools, third-degree larceny, grand larceny, assault and battery, trespassing, shoplifting, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct, possession of marijuana, driving with a suspended license, and conspiracy to commit larceny.
Oh, that's nothing.
Right?
I mean...
Come on, honey.
Well, I mean, one of the things that we often don't realize is that some of these public figures, they put on a kind of a straight face and all that, but we don't realize that they're, You've got like an entire nest of criminals here.
And then, of course, Letitia with a straight face.
Well, you know, I'm just trying to provide my knees, blah, blah, blah.
It takes a little bit of investigative digging.
No, good for Joel.
Right?
Good work.
Oh, yeah.
Good work.
We need a lot more of this kind of thing.
Good work.
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About rent control.
So rent control in New York is the platform of this guy, Madani.
This is the Muslim guy.
And he's running for mayor of New York against Eric Adams.
They're sort of neck and neck.
Eric Adams is ahead, but not by much.
And this guy is an Islamist and a leftist.
Think of the...
Right.
9-11, New York City, 2001.
And then 25 years later, the mayor of that very city is Islamic.
Right.
I mean, I'm just saying, it's like crazy.
Now this guy, I will give him credit.
To look at him, he does not look like bin Laden, right?
He's got, he's a very, he looks like a high-tech guy.
Bin Laden looked a little weird.
That's why Bin Laden looked weird.
No, but I'm saying there is a certain look, right?
Didn't he sleep in a cave?
No, right.
But all those guys, Al-Zawari, you know, some of them were from Egypt, some of them Pakistan, but they all had the same look.
And by the way, it's the same look as the mullahs in Iran and some of the Hamas guys, same thing.
You know, they've got these flowing beards, fiery eyes.
This guy looks like he...
He's a suave guy.
He makes these hip social media commercials.
So I can see why there's something tempting about him.
Now, of course, you know, rent control has been tried.
It's been tried in New York.
It's been tried in, you know, Malay just got rid of it in Argentina.
It was a disaster there.
It's been tried in Bombay.
In fact, it is in effect in Bombay.
And what you have in Bombay, Mumbai, is that you have large numbers of buildings with most of their apartments empty.
Why?
Because the landlord knows, if I rent this apartment, the person, first of all, who moves in will never move out.
Number two.
There are people living in apartments whose rent is frozen for like 25 years.
So since you can't raise the rent, they don't upgrade the building.
The building kind of goes, you know, down the tubes.
Things aren't working.
There are leaks everywhere.
Then the tenants complain, you've got to fix the building.
Well, I can't fix the building because I'm not even getting enough revenue from the building to make the upkeep of it.
This is the cycle of decay.
Yeah.
And this is what the left produces, right?
Their strategy is always price controls.
They do.
Rent control.
Yeah.
And it's almost like they hope that you...
So they're almost hoping that generation has forgotten about it.
Yeah.
And what you have now is a new generation of people who are like, you know, young people.
Wouldn't it be nice if my rent was fixed and they could never raise it?
Then, you know, if someone turns around and says, well, how about if we fix your salary and never raise it?
Then they go, then they're outraged.
They're like, oh no, you can't do that.
But what's the difference?
If you're going to protect the renter and say your rent can never go up, why don't you protect the employer and say you never have to pay this guy anything more?
Same thing, same principle, right?
For sure, for sure.
Yeah, it's a very socialist slash communist idea.
Communist idea.
Let's turn to one of your favorite topics, which is China.
Oh my gosh.
And you were telling me about, well, we, you know, just when, and by the way, this is one of the features of the big, beautiful bill, is it essentially strips all the rules of COVID.
Meaning all the, you know, because a bunch of rules were put into place in the federal government, I mean, in all the different sectors.
And in one stroke, the big, beautiful bill wipes them out and essentially says, we're going back to the rules that were in place beforehand.
So no residual COVID sort of nonsense is allowed to persist.
But as that is happening, you were telling me- Yeah, what is that all about?
So, apparently, there's a wave of COVID, of some variant of COVID that has hit Hong Kong, Singapore, China, Thailand.
And it is supposedly pretty bad.
They said that there are some, you know, deaths involved here, you know, that it rose really quickly.
Apparently people get, you know, again, it's like the delta where it hits your lungs kind of place.
I mean, from what you were saying a couple of days ago, It differs from the old COVID in the sense that it is not so much of a cold as it is a burning throat.
That too.
That is one of the symptoms, but it is a pretty bad one.
And they were saying, you know, that obviously they're urging people to get booster vaccinations so that they can, you know, not get it.
But as you know, the vaccinations do not do anything.
They don't make you not get it.
They don't make you not spread it.
And so I'm not really sure what this widespread booster vaccination bid is for these outbreaks.
Well, you know, because people are so...
Right.
And so that's, you know, my point is, is this, this COVID virus, which people I don't think talk enough about because a lot of people are like, oh, it's BS.
You should see all the comments, you know, on these articles.
Oh, it's BS.
Oh, it's because Trump is back president, you know, that it's back, you know.
No, COVID is a real virus, but it's an invented virus.
The Chinese did this and it's the Chinese that should pay dearly for this.
And, you know, we, we kind of joked about it yesterday because we're like, the Chinese are trying to kill everybody, but in Yeah, because there have been outbreaks in Wuhan.
There have been outbreaks in other parts of China.
So the way that this virus was formulated, I mean, it just does all kinds of weird things.
I mean, think of how many viruses have morphed into variants the way this one does.
Well, not only that, but I think that if you trace that discussion between Fauci, And those leading virologists, people like Christiane Anderson in California, I think, at Scripps or UCSD, the virologists were among themselves, and all this stuff has now come out.
They were saying, hey, look at this virus.
It's not like a normal virus.
Its chemistry seems to be different.
It operates differently.
And of course, we know that a vaccine that works against other types of ailments certainly doesn't work, as far as we know, against COVID, at least not in the same way.
So they were very curious.
They didn't go so far as to say we know for sure, but they were leaning that way, and it's then like Fauci lassoed them all and roped them all into, hey, listen, guys, you need to all sing out of the same hymn book.
I mean, I think, you know, Fauci obviously I think is more involved than we all know.
But it's just, you know, I feel like why aren't we – Yeah.
Why didn't he do a travel van for China?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe it's just me, but.
But it's one thing to say that you tried to combat the virus.
You came up with a vaccine.
It didn't prevent you getting it or even transmitting it.
Maybe it helped lessen the severity of it.
You could call that a limited or defective vaccine.
Now, I agree.
You shouldn't be mandating that.
that it's not even a real vaccine in the sense that we understand vaccine.
But what you're saying is, Right.
Right?
And where's the accountability for that?
I haven't seen any.
Like, literally, charging the Communist Party of China with crimes against humanity.
Right.
Along with all the people that were players in the gain-of-function research.
Right.
Crimes against humanity.
Millions of people died.
And the reason this is doubly important, I think, is not only because accountability is always good, but I'd go further.
There are now tens, if not hundreds, of these bio labs.
And a lot of them are in very dubious parts of the world.
Ukraine, Kazakhstan.
And they obviously are not going to be at the highest standards of biosafety.
Maybe on purpose.
I think it is on purpose.
I think that these labs were set up with the collaboration of intelligence agencies in the West.
They couldn't have been set up any other way.
I mean, how do you get all these labs in Ukraine if the U.S. government wasn't involved in helping to set them up, bankroll?
It's not the Ukraine, oh, we're going to do gain-of-function research.
No.
I think that there is a bigger nefarious operation that needs to be investigated and exposed.
We should get to the bottom of that for sure.
The other thing that I thought was kind of interesting, speaking of the Chinese, Chinese nationals charged with conspiracy and smuggling a dangerous biological pathogen into the U.S. for their work at a University of Michigan laboratory.
Again, another laboratory.
So they brought in specimens?
Yeah, yeah.
Criminal, yeah.
smuggling goods into the United States, false statements, visa fraud.
So they...
But what's going on here?
In other words, isn't it odd that...
They have a lot of universities.
Their universities are particularly good in the technical sphere.
In fact, if you look at the top 10 technical universities in the world, not liberal arts, but technical universities, China has like seven of them.
MIT is in there.
Caltech is in there.
But a lot of them are Chinese.
So it's very odd to me that they would be trying to smuggle...
Yeah, it says, so United States Attorney Gorgon stated, the alleged actions of these Chinese nationals, including a loyal member of the Chinese Communist Party, are of the gravest national security concerns.
These two aliens have been charged with smuggling a fungus that has been described as a potential agro-terrorism weapon into the heartland of America, where they apparently intended to use a University of Michigan laboratory to further their science.
What, you know?
I don't know.
It's a case where it sounds like, I mean, let's just look at it in the face of it.
They are bringing in these pathogens.
They're taking them to Michigan.
Is the University of Michigan asked them to do this?
Yeah, so it says that they work with the University of Michigan.
They co-authored research into the fungus.
So, apparently, it looks to me like the university was also, like, let them, you know?
But maybe the university lab didn't know exactly what strain was brought in.
Yeah, I think the bigger picture here is just this, and that is that we don't trust the Chinese.
We also recognize that a lot of the Chinese in this country are...
In other words, I've read that Chinese, when they go back to China, they basically get like an intelligence debriefing.
See, look, that's what it looks like, the fungus, when it attacks the crop like that.
Right, right.
Apparently there's already something happening with that, but they wanted to make it even worse.
They were like, you know...
All of this is occurring against a backdrop in which, look, I mean, there's a lot of trade hostility right now between America and China.
You know, it's really hard to get Xi to make a deal, which is to say that the Chinese are, you know, partly because they hold some strong cards in their hands and partly because they don't want to be seen like they're bowing or buckling to Trump.
They're taking the view that, you know, we are equal partners with you.
And so they're taking a tough stance on the trade issue, as I think we should expect that they would have.
I also think that all of these incidents, like the one we've been talking about here, the Chinese government is involved in all this.
These things don't happen.
Chinese guys don't just say, we're going to take specimens to the University of Michigan.
It's directed.
Somebody is directing them.
Somebody is authorizing them.
At the very least, the CCP is aware and monitoring what is happening and has its own agenda.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And I do think that we've got to hold them accountable for not just COVID, but a lot of other things that they've done.
The reason I think it's hard, honey, is simply because I think the Chinese have been very crafty.
They have basically embedded themselves inside the World Health Organization.
Control to a degree some of these international agencies.
The Europeans are very reluctant to hold them responsible.
So everybody's scared of them?
Is that the answer?
Not just scared of them.
They've also transactionally bought off everybody.
And by that I mean the Nigerians won't vote against them because they're building a stadium in Nigeria.
People from the Congo won't vote against them because they're building seven bridges in the Congo.
In other words, the Chinese, what they've done is through their Belt and Road Initiative, they've basically got...
You'd be reluctant to condemn somebody if they were in some way your business partner, right?
If you were collaborating on some big project, at the very least, you'd think twice.
That's really what's going on.
The whole world is thinking twice Because even though we know that these guys are bad guys It's like somehow we've all They are Gotten into bed with them I think they're the worst of the worst I'm sorry.
I think, really, they're the greatest geopolitical threat we face.
Because, I mean, look, if COVID didn't wake people up to these people, I don't know what will.
I also think that in terms of the overall picture of things, for so many years, we thought of the Soviets as our greatest adversary.
But the Chinese are bigger.
They're richer.
Because they have worked out a form of capitalism that has worked for them, a kind of state-run capitalism.
And in some ways, they're more patient, they're more cunning, they're smarter.
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