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THE NEW AMERICAN DREAM? Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep1094
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Coming up, Debbie and I are going to do our Friday roundup, and we've got a wide range of topics, from the big, beautiful Bill to the New American Dream, the Supreme Court and deportations, keeping foreign students out of the country.
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Lots happening this week and a lot for Debbie and me to talk about.
I thought we'd begin, honey, with this whole question of the big, beautiful bill.
The fact that it doesn't really make a dent, at least not a serious dent, in spending.
The fact that, at least as of now, these doge cuts have not been codified into law.
Elon Musk, somewhat disappointed, is retreating from the scene, going on to other projects.
This, I think we both know, is kind of a systemic problem.
We were talking about it this morning and talking about what the root of the problem is.
And I think the root of the problem is just that we are spending a couple of trillion dollars more than we take in.
You know, you think in any responsible family, you'd be like, okay, listen, I make, you know, $80,000, I make $120,000.
So that establishes a cap on what I can spend.
That's it.
Unless I have savings I can draw on.
But if I'm in debt, the last thing I want to be doing is adding more.
So we were talking about why this is the case.
And what is the problem here?
Is the problem that the Trump administration doesn't have a heart for real budget cuts?
Is it that the congressmen are the obstacle, or ultimately is the problem, well, And I think we both think at some level it is, in the end, the recipients of these benefits who have gotten, as you say, used to them.
Right.
Well, I mean, you made the point of a responsible parent, right, saying, you know, I don't want these credit card bills.
I'm going to pay them down.
I'm not going to buy anything until I have the money to pay it off at the end of the month, that kind of thing.
But that same family, when they had children, The mom started giving the baby candy, right?
Sugar, sugar, sugar.
Give the kids whatever they want.
Whatever they want, right?
And then when they get to about two or three, the pediatrician goes, listen, your child is obese.
You're going to have to cut that candy out, right?
So what does she do?
She's like, well, you know, I guess maybe I'll start giving him broccoli.
So you give your kid broccoli after you've been giving him candy all these years.
Do you really think that kid is going to throw a tantrum?
Or, okay, mom, I'll eat the broccoli.
No.
Right.
Throw a tantrum.
So the American people are throwing a tantrum.
Anytime any kind of entitlement is...
And so the Republicans don't want to be seen as the bad guy.
It's like the mom doesn't want to be seen as the bad parent, right?
You do it, you know?
So the dad does it.
And then the kid hates the dad.
It's like, ah, you know, you're a terrible dad.
Well, you know, as you know, I've been doing my Reagan book on the podcast.
And in some ways, this is the dilemma that Reagan confronted, which was that the That's right.
A perfect example.
And the Republicans, the party of Scrooge.
That's right.
Right?
And what would happen is Democrats would go, we got this for you and this for you and this for you.
And Republicans would go, we need to have fiscal responsibility.
We're going to need to raise your taxes.
And so Reagan realized, well, it's no surprise Republicans have been losing elections from 1932 to 1980 because who wants Scrooge when you can have Santa Claus, right?
And in some ways...
Here we go.
Fast forward 50 years later.
So I would argue that it's even worse.
Even worse than it was even then.
Because, number one, there's more entitlements.
There's more people wanting the entitlements.
And then, you know, we do have a whole sleuth of illegals getting those entitlements.
And until we deport them all, they're still continuing to get them.
Right?
Right.
So we have that problem on top of the other problem.
And then not to mention the fact that whenever something goes on for a longer duration, it not only becomes a lifestyle, it becomes intergenerational.
You've got families that have been on welfare now since the 60s and 70s.
Their grandparents.
Right.
This is the way of life, and that's how mom did it, and her mom before her, and my daughter is heading in the same direction.
And we also want to be clear that we're talking about entitlements that are not just, quote, for the poor or Social Security, Medicare.
we're talking about giveaways at every level.
People who are...
I'll give a small example of this.
Apparently, under Obama, they started this program in New York where if you stay at home and take care of an elderly parent, you get some sort of a subsidy, right?
And there were something like 25,000 people who did that.
Guess how many people there are now on that program?
More?
Like 650,000.
So from $25,000 to $50,000 to $90,000 to $150,000.
And pretty soon people realize...
Well, that and not to mention, they don't even know if you have a parent.
I'm sure that there's no monitoring system that consistently makes sure, as this guy would know, it's just you go fill out some forms, you qualify for the program.
Once you qualify, you basically can never get off of it.
And so, and then these, what I find so disheartening is think of what this does to people's character.
You know you're a slug, you don't work, Right.
This ultimately is the big question.
This question was not really a question during FDR's own time because the programs were modest.
But starting, I think, with LBJ and the 60s, this is basically a creation of the boomers.
In the 1960s, this whole idea of you have an illegitimate kid, you get welfare.
You have two, you get more.
You have three, you get even more.
This perverse system.
That causes people, or someone who says, hey listen, I can get, you know, I had an accident, I was on disability, but now I'm perfectly fine.
But nevertheless, I am somewhat obese, and so I can get $2,500 if I continue to collect disability.
Now I might be able to make $3,000 if I work, but it's not worth the difference.
I have to get up every day, I've got to get dressed, I can just sit at home, collect my $2,500.
Not to mention, get unhealthy, get really big, fat, and then claim another disability on top of that, and then just get diabetes, get all kinds of things, so then now you're even more of a burden on the state.
Because you're now tapping into a self-bloated and wasteful healthcare system that is also ripping off the taxpayer.
So the looting, you know, we talk about the looting in D.C., and that is the worst.
And it's setting a bad example.
But there is a lot of looting.
And I'm using the term looting here in the context that Ayn Rand used it.
She basically said a looter is someone who recognizes an opportunity to reach into somebody else's pocket.
Now, not directly, but through the government.
The government is basically the facilitator of the looting and is, in fact, the chief instrument of it.
Alright, let's talk about the homeless.
You and I were in California.
We had a really nice...
We went to a couple of our favorite restaurants.
We went to the restaurant of the guy who catered our wedding.
It was really nice.
I mean, wow.
You know, 10 years later, this guy is flourishing.
He's got one of the chic restaurants in northern San Diego.
And so we had a lot of fun.
I did a speaking event.
Which was also cool.
But in that speaking event, somebody asks, they go, and I think this is interesting, right?
You have these very successful guys, Young Presidents Organization, YPO.
They live in California.
They deal on a regular basis with the homeless.
Yeah.
Right?
They see them everywhere.
They're all over LA.
They're all over, not only LA and San Francisco, they're over some of the smaller cities.
You find them in Fresno.
You find them in Yorba Linda.
And so the question to me was, like, where are these homeless people, like, coming from?
And it was asked in all sincerity.
So right away, I mean, that alone is so striking to me.
You've got smart people.
They're in the area.
They see the problem.
And yet they're so focused on their business, on their successful enterprise, that they have to ask in a wide-eyed way, like, where are all these people coming from?
Now, you and I know where they're coming from.
So where are they coming from?
Well, as you know, most of them should be in insane asylums.
Or institutions of some sort.
Or institutions of some sort, right?
Why?
Because they're crazy, most of them.
Yeah, or if they're not crazy and they don't think they're Napoleon Bonaparte, they're addicts.
Right.
Or they are alcoholics.
Right.
Or they are, I think this is also another possibility, they are so degenerate that their own families have locked the door on them.
Yeah.
Right?
Because think about it.
When you're down on your fortune, you're in a bad situation, you know, let's say you're a gambling addict.
You owe money.
You need money.
You go hit up your friends.
You hit up your family.
They try to help you, but at some point they realize, Yeah, and that they're enabling you.
That's right.
That's how you end up.
That you're cut off from all your human connections.
I think so.
And you pointed out also that there's a big business, big industry in the homeless problem.
It's much bigger than the homeless.
Yeah.
I mean, if you have 25,000 homeless in San Francisco, you probably have 40,000 people servicing the 25,000.
And think about it.
For all those people, it is a loss.
It is a defeat.
They don't want these homeless people to get off the street.
That's the last thing they want.
They want to do everything to provide constant services.
It's a little bit like if you're Catholic Charities, right?
And your big source of income is coming from the illegals.
Do you want the train of illegals to stop?
No.
You are basically paid.
For illegal, right?
You created a very flourishing business.
It seems perverse to call it a business, but what else do you call it?
These are industries.
Abortion for Planned Parenthood is an industry, right?
Illegals are an industry.
The homeless are an industry.
And so as long as the industry exists, in my view, we'll never end homelessness because the industry is actively working to prevent it.
Right.
Well, also though, coupled with that, As long as we think that these people shouldn't be in an institution, you know, you could team up with these industries and say, you know what, let's instead put them in an institution.
Get them off the streets.
Right.
Right?
Right.
But that's not being done either.
So I think the poor man that asked you the question, he wanted a solution.
Right.
And I mean, there really isn't any.
Well, there really isn't any because, again, I think for a lot of business guys, they think They're trying to remedy the problem, but the problem is proving intractable.
No, they're not trying to remedy the problem.
They could remedy the problem.
Guess what?
Even let's forget about the institutions.
Let's say you just took the homeless budget.
You took the number of homeless people and you divided the budget by the number of homeless people.
I bet you you will have plenty of money to put all these people in very clean, very nice rental apartments.
Not only that, you could probably arrange food delivery for them.
So these people would be living essentially not a luxurious but a comfortable lifestyle in safe, clean surroundings.
but the homeless industry will have none of it.
Because if you do that, suddenly...
You don't need all the social workers.
You don't need all the crisis counselors.
I mean, these homeless people are constantly fighting with each other.
They stab each other.
They harass people.
And so, guess what?
In the cities of San Francisco now, they don't want the cops to come.
So they hire these nonprofit organizations to do non-profit Right.
The social workers.
It's not real policing.
No, it's social workers.
Yeah, and there's no evidence these people do anything anyway.
They just go, what's going on here?
Why are you two people fighting?
Okay, you go over there, you go over there.
Yeah, no.
Ten minutes later, after the guy leaves, they're fighting again.
Yeah.
So this is basically social policy.
A la the Democrats, right?
This is what they do.
And they don't think it's bad because they're creating jobs.
They destroy so much.
I mean, on so many levels.
So many levels.
Yeah.
No, no, totally.
And look, I mean, the sad thing is they somehow, and this is maybe the saddest part of it, they've got a system in which people vote for them.
Right?
I mean...
California continues to be a one-party state.
Larry Krasner, the Sora-style DA, was just re-elected in the Philadelphia area.
So essentially what they've done is they have created this parasitic lifestyle.
They obviously are the favorites of the criminals.
And so they've got these leeches and criminals.
And bureaucrats all voting for them.
And there are enough of those to carry the election.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Well, I call it the definition of insanity, right?
Even the people that move to Texas or Florida from liberal states, and they vote Democrat.
It's like, it's the definition of insanity, right?
You do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome.
And you get the same outcome.
It's so ridiculous on the face of it.
I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
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Let's talk about the thumbnail for today's discussion.
It's the idea of a new American dream.
That's something that you actually came up with, and it was in connection with an article that we were talking about regarding dual citizenship.
That's right.
Now, let's tell people what is dual citizenship.
Right.
So dual citizenship is when you have two citizenships, basically.
Either you're born in another country and you retain that citizenship, and then you come to America and get your citizenship there in America, and so then you have both That citizenship from the country you were born in, plus America.
Now, for me, because I was a citizen via my mother, because my mother was a U.S. citizen, my father was not.
I was born in Venezuela, but I came to America when I was 10 with my mother, who was an American citizen.
Was under the understanding that I still had the Venezuelan citizenship plus the American citizenship.
Because you had a passport.
I had two passports, right?
I go to Venezuela on my Venezuelan passport.
I come back to America on my American passport.
Well, when I turned 18, I decided that that's not really what I wanted to do.
I wanted to just retain my U.S. citizenship.
But little did I know that in Venezuela, they don't honor a dual citizenship anyway.
So I was not considered an American citizen.
I was still a Venezuelan citizen.
And later in life, it became a little dangerous for me simply because I was so anti-Venezuela government, you know, anti-Hugo Chavez, Maduro, very outspoken, that I was just afraid that if I would ever step foot in Venezuela, I would get arrested, put in jail, no due process.
Because to them...
Yeah, right.
So I was like, yeah, I'm not going back to Venezuela.
That's not happening.
So anyway, but this Newsweek article, very liberal by the way, is basically saying that because of the situation, and notice how a lot of times they, Right.
So Newsweek is suggesting that an increasing number of Americans are looking to become citizens of other countries.
That's right.
So this is, in a way, a softer version of the Hollywood people who say, I'm leaving America.
And interestingly, a few of them, I mean, no more than two or three, have actually left America, right?
Isn't Rosie O'Donnell living somewhere in Ireland or something?
One or two others have done that.
Most of them have not done it, right?
I think the dual citizenship thing, first of all, is a major cop-out.
Because if America is so bad, why don't you just...
Yeah, that's right.
But these are people, they want to retain all the benefits of it, but also then claim, well, as a result of Trump, I'm now also a citizen of some other country.
Right.
But what they don't understand is that they're going to actually have to pay taxes in both countries.
So that's a little loophole.
Some of these countries have treaties, so you don't end up paying the double taxation.
But I think the reason we tied this to the American dream is part of what This is just a reality we have to accept.
And a lot of people are blind to it because the American dream is not so opaque for them.
But I was looking, for example, just at a couple of things, like the age at which people today buy their first house.
So the age used to be around 30, and now it's around 40. Think about that.
That means that there are many Americans in their 30s who just cannot afford to buy their own house.
And that shows you that this is a real deterioration because...
Even if I have a mortgage, nevertheless, hey, guess what?
I have a fence.
I put a down payment.
I'm working on my way to paying this off.
It may take me a long time, but nevertheless, it's going to be mine.
But if you have to wait until you're 40 to even get started, it's a whole different picture.
The other thing is, you know, the issue of how much money do you have to make to be able to enjoy the kind of lifestyle.
Look, you and I started out.
When we graduated from college, we both were not only penniless, you owed a bunch of money.
Well, I owed a bunch of money.
I was in major debt.
You were in major debt.
I owed a bunch of loans.
So we were starting out like in the red, as they say, right?
But we were jaunty and confident and optimistic because we thought, hey, listen, we're going to get a job.
We're going to work hard.
We're going to have to be frugal.
But we're going to start putting aside money.
We'll be able to pay it on our loans.
This is actually what I was able to do.
But the key point is I was able to do it.
And not only, I mean, I went to Ivy Leaks College and all this, but lots of other people who went all over the place were doing the same thing in one way or another.
Yeah.
And the fact that you don't see it as much today is a sign that the American dream is true.
It's in trouble.
Well, I mean, and it kind of goes back to what we started talking about, the entitlements, the value of the dollar, all those things which are actually not really our fault.
No, that's right.
And young people, I think, also.
Sometimes you and I, we kind of unload on Gen Z and so on.
But I think we have to remember that that is a generation.
And I do it out of kindness, sweetness, and love.
Well, we have Gen Zers all around us.
I mean, we have Gen Zers who book guests on this podcast.
We have Gen Zers.
A child holds a Gen Zer.
Well, not a child anymore.
25. I thought you meant the grandchild.
My baby's 25. Do you know what they're called?
Yes.
Alpha.
Alpha and Omega.
Wait.
What's the one after Alpha?
Well, Beta?
Beta.
So Winston is Beta.
He's no longer Alpha.
So are you saying Marigold is the end of Alpha?
I believe so.
Interesting.
I believe so.
And so we're now starting a new generation called Beta, apparently, or Omega, whatever.
So anyway, but also...
I think that is a really big thing right now.
Right, and some of the parents are like, this was not the way it was in my time.
I guess what I'm doing is I'm taking the side of the Gen Zers and saying, listen.
It's not our fault.
Yeah, the Gen Zers are saying, we are not facing the same situation that you did.
Because you were making a lot less money.
I mean, if I remember...
It was truly $14,500.
I think you were making about twice as much.
I was.
At the same age.
But nevertheless, the point is you could make $25,000, $30,000, let's just say in 1988, 1989.
And let's remember what things cost, what cars cost.
What food costs?
What gas costs?
Yeah.
You could actually get by and then as your income went up, you really were able to put aside money to save money.
Now, some people didn't save money, but that was their choice.
But you could do it if you made the effort.
Yeah.
I mean, I remember buying my very, very first car.
It was a used car.
And it was actually, I made a deal with a friend.
I bought it for a thousand bucks.
Yeah.
Your Bug, your Volkswagen.
My Volkswagen Beetle.
Loved it.
A thousand bucks.
Then, my second car was a Hyundai.
And that one, I want to say, was about $15,000 with sunroof.
Yeah, because your first car didn't have AC.
It had a little fan.
A physical fan.
A physical fan.
Tiny little thing under the dash.
And it would blow hot air.
But, you know, I've always been very cold-natured, so I didn't really mind the heat and sticking to the back of it, of the seat.
You know, it was like literally my sweat would stick to it.
I didn't mind, but I know a lot of people would have been like, I don't think so.
Well, I mean, today this would be seen as so intolerable, you know, and unacceptable.
And this is part of the problem, is that when people think about what is the bare minimum today.
I think one of the problems, we have a kind of set of inflated expectations across the board.
I mean, just this morning, I'm scrolling through on social media, and I see this woman, and she goes, you know, she goes, we have a major problem in our society.
She goes, the reason for this is that the average girl is like a 7 or an 8, but the average guy is like a 4. First of all, I look at this girl, I'm thinking, you know, you are all made up.
You have all this makeup on, you have lipstick, you've done your hair.
So, okay, you're a seven.
Are you a seven without all that?
Honey.
No, honey, what I'm getting at you, what I'm getting at.
Honey, no, no, no.
Listen, here's what I'm saying.
You didn't go there.
No, no, I have to go there.
I have to go there.
Because here's what I'm getting at.
What I'm getting at is, I'm kind of speaking up for the boys.
What I'm getting at is, the average boy is, by definition, a five.
And the average girl also happens to be a five.
That's the point.
That's how for centuries, if not millennia...
So now when I wake up in the morning, I'm going to go...
Depending on the makeup.
I better cake on that makeup.
I better cake it on.
You are practicing the art of deflection and diversion here.
On Thursdays, I'm a 7, right?
Honey.
Every other day of the week?
Honey.
Perhaps not.
No.
This is not about the individual.
It's not about you and me.
It is about the fact that the human race has come this far for millennia because average boys and average girls have found each other acceptable, correct?
That's just the way it is, right?
But if you have a society where, let's just say, average girls only want the top 1 or 5% of boys, you see the problem right away, don't you?
I do see the problem, but I also blame it on social media.
I blame it on social media.
I blame it on these influencers because all of a sudden these girls become popular on social media.
They become influencers.
And then they think they're too elevated for the normal guy.
But the problem is not the social media.
I think what it is is it is the feminist indoctrination that tells these women, "You're not a 5. You're a 10." In fact, you're an 11. You are what you think you are.
But they get this from social media.
Right, right.
In other words, what happens is they find other people their own age who fill their mind with this kind of garbage.
And so suddenly, let's just take the ordinary...
That guy is like, well, there's nothing cool about him.
He's not sensitive or he's not this or he's not that.
Whereas, again, for centuries, girls and boys recognize, well, guess what?
You know, this guy may not be sensitive, but he's really hardworking and he's really reliable.
And what we are looking for is a complementarity where maybe I bring in some more sensitivity and this guy gets all the jobs done around the house, right?
So to demand of males that they show the same sensitivities as women without also demanding that women then show all the same qualities that men have.
Yeah.
Something's wrong here.
There is.
And also on top of that, there's the, oh, and he has to make six figures.
Right.
Same thing.
Same idea.
And yeah, no, this is exactly right.
Let's talk about Bruce Springsteen because the, And Trump goes, not only is he a horrible singer, but he has also got all kinds of skin problems.
I mean, it was just very Trump, right?
Trump has to go there, as you said.
He has to go there.
You found an interesting article about Bruce Springsteen, which distinguishes Bruce Springsteen from a lot of Hollywood people that we know as left-wing.
So let's take, for example, Jack Nicholson is left-wing.
Okay, Robert De Niro is left-wing.
But guess what?
Robert De Niro's art is not left-wing.
Right?
Look at the roles he plays.
Even in roles where he plays like he's the father of the bride or he's in Meet the Fockers or he's in The Godfather, the gangster movies.
He plays roles that, I don't know if you could quite classify them politically, but they're right of center.
But Robert De Niro is very left-wing.
But the point...
His music is left-wing.
Always has been.
And always has been.
Always has been.
It says that, you know, his lyrical view of America has long included politics, left-wing politics.
In fact, they say that even Born in the USA is not what the anthem that people think it is.
Yeah, people think it's Born in the USA, so the USA is the greatest.
But if you listen to the lyrics, that is not the point.
It is not.
The point is the song is being sung by a guy who is a Vietnam vet.
He comes back.
He has no job prospects.
He has no future.
And he's saying this ironically, like, hey, I'm born in the USA.
Exactly.
What's going on?
Exactly.
So it is a protest against America, right?
And the article goes on to analyze a bunch of songs, including songs I don't know.
There's My Hometown.
There is The Ghost of Tom Joad.
The Rising, Jack of All Trades, Galveston Bay.
American Skin.
American skin.
Yeah, it says, no secret, my friend, you can get killed just for living in your American skin.
Oh, so there's probably an allusion to the racial motive.
That's right.
Police killing.
Yeah, police killings.
Mocking capitalism, mocking the United States as a kind of warfare state.
I mean, look, I don't know why I ever paid for a ticket to go watch this guy sing.
I did.
I went to a concert back in 1980.
I want to say 87. That's when I went to hear him.
And, you know, I was like jamming away, not really paying attention to the lyrics, of course.
Well, that's because you're a musical person and you pay attention to sound.
Right.
and not even to words.
In fact, isn't it funny you would tell me how you would sing Oh, yeah.
There were a lot of, yeah, yeah.
Like Baby It's Cold Outside or all kinds of songs.
Was it not that one?
What was the other one?
Rock Me All Night Long or whatever.
It's like, oh, yeah, all night long.
What are they doing all night long?
I had no idea what they were doing all night long.
But I like the song, right?
Right.
But no, I mean, with him, I had no idea that it was so anti-American.
I mean, really.
Let's talk about, you know, the reason people get mixed up about Bruce Springsteen is we are accustomed today to a leftist who looks like Trotsky.
You know, has the Trotsky glasses, got a little beard, he's a little weirdo, he dresses like a bohemian, he's a freak, or purple hair.
Now, Bruce Springsteen dresses like working class, right?
He dresses like he's a coal miner or he dresses like he's a construction worker.
Now, we have to remember that if we go back in American history to the 30s and 40s, there was a working class conflict.
communist movement in this country.
Very large and very powerful.
Yeah.
And these were...
You know, again, people who had their faces black from coming out of a mine, and yet they were voting not even for FDR.
They're voting for Wallace.
So they're voting for the Communist Party.
Communist Party USA.
And all of this came a lot, I think, out of the Great Depression and the belief that capitalism had completely failed.
So this appears to be Bruce Springsteen's real pedigree.
He is, in fact...
Well, he's a communist.
And he's close to being a communist, right?
If not an outright communist.
I think he's an outright communist.
Yeah.
And so no surprise.
I think he should he should write a new song about how great communism is and then go oh wait but see he's Oh wait, what am I saying?
What am I saying?
Well, I have to say he is pretty cunning.
And by that, I mean...
Think of it.
You have a song, and it's called Born in the USA.
It's almost like it is a song designed to deceive.
Oh, for sure.
Because the ordinary guy, let's say you're eating in a diner, born in the USA, but that's not what he means.
It's almost like, pay attention, read between the lines, look at what the song is really saying, but most people don't do that.
And so Bruce Springsteen, what he does is he has the left-wing message, but he also gets to pose as this kind of all-American patriot.
That's right.
He has it both ways.
That's right.
Now, I used to sing, "I wasn't bold." Because you weren't.
Oh, that's right.
There you go.
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Let's go to this article accusing Israel of using human shields in Gaza.
It's an AP article.
It's AP, no surprise.
No surprise.
And let's pause to give AP some...
Because, and I mean this sort of sarcastically, right?
think of how clever they are.
What AP is saying is, oh, you know, Have you heard about the Israeli human shields?
And let's go on to talk about what these...
Right.
What are they talking about?
What are these co-called human shields?
So they're talking about the actual terrorists.
Right.
So what they're talking...
So in the case of Hamas, a human shield is when the Israeli soldiers are coming in.
And you grab your own kid or somebody else's kid and say, listen, if you shoot, you're going to be shooting this kid.
Or on top of a hospital or a daycare.
Exactly.
So the human shield is making the innocent people in the hospital the targets.
That's right.
Now, what AP is talking about in their use of human shields is something totally different.
That's right.
The Israelis go into Gaza.
Hamas has planted all these mines, all these booby traps.
And so what the Israelis do is, they're clever too, they go, hey, listen, why don't we get a terrorist?
And we have the terrorists go ahead.
Because if there is a mine, the terrorist is going to be blown up in the mine.
It's a Hamas mine.
That's right.
So what we will do is we will teach Hamas a lesson by using their own bad guys as the front men of our testing operation.
So the Israelis are engaging in what I would say completely legitimate war tactics, using combatants, not innocence.
Let me tell you something else.
So when I was talking, you know, remember the sound guy that we were with in Israel?
Yep.
And he is IDF, part-time or whatever you call it.
Israeli Defense Forces, yeah.
He told me, Interesting.
So they used to have dogs and the dogs kept getting blown up.
They kept getting blown up.
Because of booby traps and mines.
That's right.
And they were like these innocent dogs.
Planted grenades.
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, so it's like now they use terrorists because...
They took part in October 7th.
They take part in horrific things with Hamas.
And these are not just Palestinian civilians that they pull aside.
Hey, Grandma, come here.
No, no.
AP did very wrong in reporting something very deceptive.
Yeah, I remember, you remember one of my favorite films.
Not one of yours, but one of mine in Breka Morant.
The soldiers fighting in the Boer War, they take Boer captives, and because the Boers are blowing up trains, they put the Boer captives in open train compartments, right?
Why?
Because then the Boers soon realize we're going to be blowing up our own people, and they stop doing it.
They stop the guerrilla attacks on the train.
So it's a very clever military strategy, and I don't see anything in it that violates the precepts of the just war, right?
Because let's look at the precepts of the just war.
Number one, you cannot deliberately target civilians.
Which Hamas does.
Which Hamas does, and Israel does not.
Exactly.
This is not to say that if you launch attacks on military targets and civilians are killed in the process, that's collateral damage.
That is, in fact, allowed under the just war because you're not deliberately targeting the civilians.
I think that's a key.
What AP is doing here is they're trying to obfuscate that key difference.
Completely.
It's 100% what they're doing.
And they're making it sound as though Israel, the IDF, is getting actual civilians off the street and using them as human shields.
That's what they are trying to say, which is completely false.
Completely false.
Let's talk about Mr. Derek Chauvin.
Oh, yes.
So, you know, I told you that I just came upon this tweet.
Let me give it to you.
Yeah, I came upon this tweet.
It's such an interesting tweet.
I think you should just read it.
Yeah.
So, basically, there was a picture of Chauvin.
And everybody was like, do you think Chauvin...
Derek Chauvin.
I think it's Chauvin, not Chauvin.
Chauvin.
Chauvin.
Do you think he should be let out?
So Trump has actually been pardoning a bunch of people who have been, in his view, like wrongly treated by the judicial process.
And so there's now a kind of MAGA campaign on social media.
Well, what about Derek Chauvin, right?
Now, included in this list are the Whitmer kidnapping guys, Adam Fox, and I guess Barry Croft is the other guy.
I think those guys should definitely be pardoned.
They were framed, without a doubt.
The Chauvin situation has led to a bunch of people saying, Chauvin did nothing wrong.
Chauvin just did what the police are supposed to do.
Chauvin was acting in line with the manual.
And so Chauvin is completely a victim of police framing in the same way as, say, Adam Fox and Barry Croft.
I don't actually agree with that, but this is a very interesting post you're about to read, that in a sense identifies Chauvin and George Floyd both as individuals.
Let's hear it.
So this is from someone named TheBlackOpinion.
It's at opinion underscore black.
You don't know who it is, and I don't know the account either.
We're just talking about the content.
Right.
So Derek Chauvin should never have been a police officer.
That much is clear.
He was a violent narcissist and a danger to black men.
To place your knee on any prostate man's neck for such a period of time and not respond when that man says he can't breathe shows your pathology.
However, this lionization, used as a verb, in quotation marks, of George Floyd is also pretty stomach-churning.
He was not a Dr. Martin Luther King, a Malcolm X, or a Marcus Garvey.
A few months before his death, he placed a loaded gun into the stomach of a pregnant black woman.
He was also a degenerate drug abuser.
For the liberal lefties, both black and white, to voice this SOB up as a hero is gaslighting taken to an extreme.
Chauvin is a poo-poo house.
And so was George Floyd.
They found each other because both operated on the same negative frequency.
Yeah, this is, I think, the very provocative statement here.
I've never heard anyone.
Yeah, we need to analyze this a little bit more closely.
So, on the first part of it, let's talk about Chauvin.
He should never have been a police officer.
Now, as you know, the medical examiner did an autopsy on He was killed because of all the drugs in his body and all the other problems that he had.
So essentially, Chauvin's pressure to his throat did not kill him.
That being said, Chauvin didn't know that, right?
Chauvin applied the pressure anyway, right?
You and I have watched the video, as have most people, but if you watch the video...
George Floyd did not submit, right?
And so Chauvin, like, for an uncomfortably long period of time, keeps his knee on this guy's neck or near his neck.
Maybe it wasn't flat on his neck.
Maybe it was sandwiched between his shoulder and his neck.
A number of times, not only Floyd, but I think even around him, is like, you know, this guy can't breathe.
You know, so just out of prudence, I think a normal person would have let go and maybe twisted his arms around his back and put handcuffs on, put him back in the car.
Yeah, I don't think at that point he posed a danger.
No, no.
Yeah.
Now, look, we should be careful even in saying that because we have seen other cases where somebody is riddled with drugs and they freak out.
And they not only charge, but even after you start shooting them, they're still charging at you.
They're like the Terminator.
Yeah, so this is what cops deal with.
And we have to keep that in mind.
So for all these reasons, I would have given Chauvin the benefit of the doubt.
But this is not to say that he should not be disciplined.
And this guy may even be right.
He really doesn't belong in the police force.
Because look, the thing about the police force is that you have people who I think to some degree are attracted by power.
Because, think of it, why do you want to be a policeman?
It's kind of like, why do you want to be in the military, right?
Now, you could say, I want to be in the military for scholarships and so on, and patriotism, and I think those are two motives.
But a third motive is, I want to be in the military because I like to fight.
I like to have guns.
I like to use guns.
I think that's the minor component, to be honest.
Of using guns?
Of the military.
Of wanting to use a gun?
Well, I think they go into it because of patriotism.
Why else would you want to die for your country?
I mean, when I was a kid, I loved guns.
And I thought of myself going into the military because I wanted to shoot the guns.
Of course I did.
All boys do.
Every boy gives some thought to shooting guns.
You thought, I'm going to become a chess champion.
That's what you thought.
No, I know, but of course I did.
Of course I did.
But what I'm saying is, what I'm getting at is that a motive for being a cop, just coming back to cops here, I think, is that you are a figure in authority.
I mean, if a cop pulls you over, and why do you think the cop sits in his car for five, four minutes?
I don't know, but I've been pulled over numerous times, as you know, way more than you have.
Yep.
One time, I'm sorry, I tend to go a little fast.
One time I was pulled over and I was honest, right?
He has this motorcycle cop.
He comes up to me.
He goes, do you know how fast you were going?
And I go, yes, sir.
Why were you going so fast?
It was a school zone.
I was a teacher and I was coming out of the parking lot.
So, I mean, hello, right?
I couldn't lie.
I go, well.
I'm late to my massage.
Excellent.
Only because it was my birthday.
It was my birthday gift to myself.
I was getting a massage and I was late.
And so he goes, hmm.
He goes back to the motorcycle, like you say, takes forever.
Comes back.
He gives me the ticket and he says, happy birthday.
So he didn't let you off.
Oh, no, but...
Really?
And then I'm like, I know the mayor.
I'm going to tell him about you.
I was so upset.
But again, you know, it's one of those things.
But I also have met a lot of really amazing cops.
Yeah, and of course our good friend Troy Nels was the sheriff, the constable, is now the congressman from Sugar Land, Texas.
Amazing.
And you have to admire people who are willing to take that kind of personal risk.
You have to admire their families.
I mean, really, I pose no threat to this person.
So I think he was like, yeah, she's an easy one, you know, I mean.
You don't know what you're walking into.
I'm sure the adrenaline is going.
I'm sure that, you know, I can't even imagine.
They go through a lot.
I think the reason that people are taking the Chauvin side here is partly because they are so disgusted at this.
This is the cult of George Floyd.
I mean, this went so out of control.
Think of it.
It refreshed my memory.
There was a little video of the mayor of Minneapolis, this guy named Frey, F-R-E-Y, and he comes to the casket and he starts bawling.
Is this the one that was dancing with BLM?
It might have been, but this is a guy who pretends is the right word here.
He pretends to be so overcome by emotion that he starts weeping as if it is his own wife who's in the casket.
And then, of course, we all know about Schumer and Pelosi.
Yeah, yeah.
All of this nonsense that occurred, it's almost like there was a national intoxication of sorts.
All orchestrated.
BLM was part of a Marxist organization who...
You know, the same BLM people, the same incestuous pool of people are the same ones driving the free Hamas or free Palestine.
Yeah.
it's the same group of people it's just now that it's Before it was BLM.
It's almost like these guys, they are the people of the revolving placards.
That's right.
They have Hamas placards over here.
They have trans placards over there.
And they have BLM over here.
And it's like, it's Tuesday.
Which one are we going to?
Right.
And so when one cause comes to the forefront, they're there.
I kind of just roll my eyes now.
It's the same people.
It's so predictable.
So predictable.
Okay, let's close out by talking about this interesting article that you showed me.
It's from borderreport.com.
It says, assassins disguised as nurses finish off women inside Tijuana ER.
So, I mean, just think about that.
I can just visualize the scene.
You have two hitmen.
They're disguised as nurses.
They sneak into the Tijuana General Hospital.
And they had apparently tried to kill this woman, right?
And she was injured.
She was hospitalized.
She was on a gurney.
She was on a gurney.
And then she goes to the hospital, and these guys sneak their way in in nurse camouflage, in effect.
And we were thinking about this because here's what it says.
It says the woman...
She's a single mother.
She cleans houses for a living.
So this is clearly not like the Mexican mafia.
She's not a drug dealer.
So what do you think is going on?
Why go to that trouble?
I don't know.
I mean, either – But, I mean, that's a little extreme, don't you think, for that?
No.
Well, when I say no, I mean, yes, I do think it's extreme.
I don't think it's appropriate behavior, no.
Let me dress as a nurse.
Go in and just finish it off.
No, what I'm getting at is if you...
So that's what I'm talking about.
I can't imagine that it was anything other than a domestic dispute.
I can't imagine because, again, she had no money.
No political or financial motive.
No political motive.
So it had to be that, but it's just really interesting to me.
That these people in Mexico, and this is why I feel like Mexico is extremely dangerous.
These people just can go into a hospital, dress up like a staff.
Evidently, nobody stopped them.
And they were armed.
Right.
I mean, they were armed.
They go in there, they finish off a patient, and then they walk out.
And it doesn't say if they were even arrested or apprehended.
I don't think they were.
So it's like, okay, you can't do that here and get away with it.
Right.
Surveillance, security.
Yeah, that's right.
So the fact that you can do that in Mexico is extremely disturbing on so many levels.
Because you don't know if these people were cartel.
You don't know if they were just...
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know.
But it was such a...
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