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BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep1092
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Coming up, I want to talk about Trump's big, beautiful bill.
Elon Musk says it may be big, but is it beautiful?
I'll answer that question.
I also want to talk about why homelessness never seems to be solved.
It has to do with homelessness, which has become a very profitable business.
And Newsweek senior editor Josh Hammer joins me.
We're going to talk about the recent murder of two young staffers at the Israeli embassy, one Jewish, the other Christian.
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You know, it's kind of funny.
Debbie and I were in California over the weekend.
I was giving a talk in the In the Anaheim area, sort of a few miles from Disneyland, this was an organization called YPO, Young Presidents Organization.
It's a very kind of chic and elite group of young people.
Well, young meaning under 50. By and large, people who run their own companies.
Companies have taken, you know, a minimum of 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year.
So this is a kind of...
But we made a weekend of it.
We had a lot of fun.
We made the drive up from our old stomping ground in San Diego.
And I mentioned this for a couple of reasons.
Well, the first reason, somewhat on the amusing side, is I picked up the shirt that I'm wearing right now.
It's called a cricket shirt.
Not cricket like the game, but C-R-I-Q-U-E-T.
Cricket.
And I thought it looked cool.
But when I put it on this morning, I'm like, Debbie, this shirt is extremely odd because if you look carefully, it is like an in-between of a button-down shirt and a polo shirt.
In other words, a polo shirt has one or two buttons at the top and you kind of pull it over you.
A button-down shirt has buttons all the way down.
And this one kind of has buttons, but like going, you know, somewhat to my middle section.
I'm like, this is really odd.
And Debbie's like, well, that's because, you know, it's for you to, if you want to open up all the buttons and, you know, kind of do the Italian thing where you have like four chains and some medallions and things like that.
So I'm like, well, I won't be doing those things.
But nevertheless, that is the story of this anomalous cricket shirt.
The other anomaly is that while I was giving my talk to this group, a very interesting group, and giving them the scoop on, really, politics in Washington.
And these people are survivors, right?
Because they're in the...
So they're survivors.
And Debbie, of course, calls it Calisuela.
So they were all quite amused by all this, and they identified with that idea.
But they wanted to know, really, is America going in the same direction?
And I was giving them a kind of interpretation of the Trump phenomenon, what it represents, and how it's similar to and yet in some ways very different from the Reagan revolution.
One of the guys in the course of our discussion asked me, he's like, why do we have so many homeless all over California?
And I thought about it.
Of course, the obvious reasons are that if the sun shines in California, homeless people don't like to go where it's really cold.
You're not going to find a whole bunch of homeless people like in Wisconsin in the winter.
So that's kind of one reason.
It's a magnetic draw for the homeless.
But the other reason, I think the bigger reason, is that California has created a homeless industry, a homeless management.
And by the way, the homeless management bureaucracy greatly outnumbers the homeless, not to mention the fact that the vast allocations of money to the homeless are intercepted, siphoned off, taken away by the homeless industry.
This is, by the way, very similar to what happens in government in general.
It is also what happens, by the way, in allocations of money to foreign countries.
$100 million or $300 million to Zelensky, and he gets one-tenth of that.
And the rest of it goes to defense contractors, NGOs.
It's intercepted by innumerable middlemen and middlemen groups.
And that's why the real estate values of the Washington, D.C. area are so high, because the ripoff artists are all around.
And so even though the money is ostensibly for Zelensky, when Zelensky complains, they're like, well, gee, Zelensky is like, you're supposed to give me 100 million, I only got 10. And they're like, well, that's 10 more than you'd have otherwise, so keep your mouth shut and let the thieves do their work, because that is how it's done around here.
And the same is true with the homeless.
If the homeless stopped being homeless, And so the job of the homeless industry is to make sure that doesn't happen, that these people stay at least officially on the street.
And so that's why we have homelessness.
When you subsidize something, this is an iron law of economics, you get more of it.
And so when you subsidize homelessness, guess what?
You get more homeless.
I gave these guys at YPO the example of a law that was passed in British India.
there were apparently a bunch of cobras who were biting people and biting some British officials.
And the British decided, let's...
And so they offered like a certain sum of money, like a hundred rupees for every dead cobra.
The idea was to encourage people, you know, kill the cobras, bring them in, collect your hundred rupees, and this will help the problem to go away.
Little did they realize that the cobras kept on coming and the dead cobras kept on showing up.
And finally it dawned on the British that the Indians were raising cobras.
So I think you see where I'm going with all this.
The people bringing in the dead cobras are akin to the homeless industry.
They're going to make sure that when you get paid for cobras, there are plenty of cobras around, alive or dead, to be paid for.
Let me turn to my main topic of this morning, which is the Big Beautiful Bill.
Now, I just saw an interview with Elon Musk, and this is continuing my discussion of the disillusionment of Elon Musk.
Disillusionment, of course, implies that Elon Musk had illusions, and I'm not really saying that he did, but I think he had high hopes.
He had expectations.
And one of his expectations for Doge was that you wouldn't have laws.
I mean, forget about consolidating Doge.
That's important.
That hasn't happened.
I don't know if it's going to happen.
It might happen.
But it certainly hasn't happened yet.
But it's a bigger insult to Doge to go beyond that and add more spending.
So in other words, instead of emptying the bucket so that The spending level is kept roughly on the same level as the money you're taking in.
You're actually adding to the bucket.
You're putting on a hose, and the hose is called debt, and you're taking on more debt.
And that is, in fact, what this big, beautiful bill does.
So Elon's point is, it's certainly big, but it's not all that beautiful because it has this terrible feature that it is making our debt, which is already very high.
Even worse.
And now, I think that Elon Musk, as far as he goes, is quite right about this.
I understand, really, where he's coming from.
I understand why someone in that situation would go, gee, I put all this money into Trump, into the Republicans, and what I get for it is even more spending.
And it's very little consolation to say to Elon, well, gee, you know what?
The Democrats would be even worse.
They would spend far more.
They would take the SUV right off the cliff.
They would actually do it proudly.
And the Republicans are at least to some degree attempting to put the brakes.
Now, not putting the brakes on what is being spent, but putting the brakes on what the Democrats would have spent or the greater levels of spending that we could have expected and anticipated.
Trump continues to believe in the bill, to support the bill.
The bill is already through the House by one vote.
It is now in the Senate.
I predict that there will be some back and forth, but it will in fact pass.
And that will count politically as a big success for Trump because with narrow majorities in the House and the Senate, he will have gotten it done.
He will have gotten it through.
He will have taken the notoriously But at the same time, what would the Trump people say about all this bad stuff in the bill?
I think what they would say is that this is the fault.
Not just of the Republican Congress.
I made this point in a slightly different way yesterday.
But it's also the fault of the expectations of the American people.
Because when the Republicans try to go after any kind of entitlement, even if these entitlements are swollen, even if they're riddled with fraud, even though they are predicted to essentially take the automobile off the cliff, Nevertheless, the moment you touch it, it's radioactive.
The Democrats scream.
The media screams.
But more importantly, their screams are heard by the American people who go, oh no, take your hands off my Social Security and off my Medicare.
And the Republicans are now in a defensive crouching position.
And Trump doesn't want to be in that position.
His point is going to be, listen, unfortunately, we are in a situation where the people themselves, including Republican voters, are not ready, do not have the appetite to see the kind of cuts that are not only helpful but necessary, I would say essential.
And so what do we do?
And the Trump answer is, well, let's do an end run around this.
And that means let's look at six different ways in which we can generate revenue and try to make up for the deficiencies of this bill.
So let's try, by and large, to ignite the engine of economic growth.
How do we do that?
First of all, we get a lot of foreign entities and companies to invest a lot in America.
Then we get rich people from all over the world to buy their, quote, gold card and bring money into America.
Then we convince American businesses like Apple to stay in America, to make their products in America.
Next big idea of Trump.
It was tried in 2017.
It worked.
The idea is going to be to push that even further, to collect money from tariff revenues, which are revenues coming from people and entities abroad.
So you put all of this together.
And a final point, which I don't want to miss, is there are all these new technologies on the horizon.
They fall into two big categories.
The first one is artificial intelligence, and the second is robotics.
So think of robotics as having mechanized objects doing pretty much all the tasks that we humans are accustomed to doing.
And one way to do that is to have life-size robots.
This is Elon Musk's big idea, and that is to have humanoid Because humanoid robots are, well, human-sized, and we can direct them to do things that humans do, kind of in the human way, but without human flaws.
So imagine a humanized robot, for example, doing surgery.
It's not going to have the problem of the shaking hand that you sometimes worry about in the case of a surgeon or a doctor.
The humanized robot.
And the other area, which I think is just as big, maybe even bigger, artificial intelligence, which is essentially now the ability to draw on the vast storehouse of human knowledge contained in software, contained online, contained in the internet, to be able to pull that knowledge, but not just pull that knowledge, but organize it, apply it.
Make sense of it.
Come up even with new projects, new ideas.
And this is all the quote brain work that human beings have been doing for decades, if not centuries.
And now it turns out that we can make machines that do it.
This doesn't mean that the machines become quote intelligent.
Machines are inanimate.
They're not by themselves intelligent.
But they do intelligent tasks.
That we program them to do.
And they have the ability not only to synthesize vast amounts of information, not only to do calculations that human beings can't do, but also to, in some ways, generate originality, or at least to come up with new hypotheses, new projects.
So I think the Trump expectation or program is to tap into all these different sources.
To compensate for the debt.
Because think about it.
If our economy grows faster than it's growing now, that's a bigger pie.
And so that bigger pie allows you some room for some irresponsible spending.
So there's no question the spending has reached irresponsible levels.
But I think the Trump hope and the Trump scheme.
Is, at least for now, not to take a kind of meat axe or a sledgehammer.
By the way, all needed.
I'm not using these terms in a derogatory way.
I'm using these terms as, guess what?
Some of this has to be dismantled.
It has to be bulldozed.
It has to be taken down.
But it's clearly not going to be taken down now.
And the strategy, I hope, of the workaround.
I hope that strategy, in fact, is successful.
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Guys, I'm always happy to welcome back to the podcast our friend Josh Hammer, senior editor of Newsweek.
He also hosts the Josh Hammer Show.
He's the author of a marvelous book, Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West.
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Josh, thank you for joining me.
I have not yet talked on the podcast about the horrific incident in Washington, D.C., involving two young people, a young man, Yaron Lachinsky, a young woman, Sarah Milgram, and they were just gunned down, assassinated on the street.
Talk a little bit about who these people were and who was the perpetrator.
Well, it's just an unspeakably horrible story.
On the other hand, Dinesh, what did we think was going to happen?
I mean, what did the people chanting for the past year and a half about globalize the Intifada?
You know, from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free, Intifada revolution, there is only one solution.
I mean, this Nazi-esque, Hitlerian, genocidal language.
I mean, at some point, someone was going to actually pick up a gun and start killing people.
In fact, you know, these two young people killed in the prime of their lives.
By the way, Dinesh, it's even more personally tragic.
Yaron had just purchased an engagement ring for his girlfriend, Sarah.
He was going to propose to her this week in Jerusalem in the Holy City.
So, I mean, just...
But look, I mean, only one person pulled the trigger.
That's obviously true.
But it has to be said, Dinex, that this happened in a certain context.
That's happened in a certain milieu where Israelis, Jews, Christian Zionists, anyone who is pro-Jewish, pro-Israel, or a friend of the Jews, a friend of Israel, everyone has been authorized and dehumanized there.
It's become politically acceptable to tar-and-feather Jews, to tar-and-feather supporters of the world's only Jewish state.
And at some point, some radical pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas anarchist Marxist freak, which is what the assassin Elias Rodriguez was.
He was an anarchist Marxist who was involved with far-left Chinese Communist Party funding.
All the circles you would think that he would be involved in, this guy was involved in them there.
This couple that was gunned down.
Actually, in Washington, D.C., not the day of the murder, but the two days prior to the murder, because I was doing events for the book that you so kindly mentioned there.
In fact, Dinesh, two days prior to this murder, I was giving a keynote speech at the Middle East Forum Policy Conference in Washington, D.C. It's a think tank.
Apparently, Yaron was actually there in the audience listening to my speech.
I didn't have a chance to meet him there, but he was listening to me speak not less than 48 hours before he was gunned down.
So it is slightly personal for me.
It should be personal for anyone and everyone, though, because I've had enough.
I have had enough of the incitements, enough of people just mainstreaming and normalizing this active incitement against Jews, against friends of the Jewish state.
It's disgusting, and it has to stop.
It seriously, seriously has to stop, Dinesh.
You know, I think it is not only interesting that Yaron is a, well, apparently what he is, is he was a sort of a, what they call a messianic Jew, or he was a Christian.
Sarah, his girlfriend, was, of course, Jewish.
Presumably the assassin thought they were both Jewish.
But what I thought was also interesting is you might expect the assassin to be some radical Muslim, jihadi, maybe transplanted foreign student coming from Lebanon or Qatar.
But no, this is a Hispanic guy coming from the Chicago area.
And so his experience of all this is...
And I think what you're saying is that ultimately these are people who are absorbing the propaganda of the left.
Which is that somehow this is a global revolution, this is a global cause, and terrorism is legitimized not simply against Israel directly, but all over the world.
Right, so the biographical details are interesting.
You mentioned, so Yaron, if I'm not mistaken, I believe he had a Jewish father and a Christian mother.
He himself was a devout Christian.
Sarah also had one Jewish and I think one Catholic parent.
I don't remember which was which there.
But, you know, the point is that the shooter did think that they were Jewish.
And frankly, the fact that they were Christians, I think, only underscores the globalized part of globalize the Intifada there.
Because, again, they're coming after not just people who are visibly Jewish.
I wear a kippah.
I'm a religious Jew.
I'm a visible Jew.
They're coming out anyone who would drape themselves in the flag of Israel, who is willing to stand up and speak on behalf of U.S.'s relations, who is willing to stand up and speak on behalf of Jewish-Christian relations, on biblical ecumenicism, all these themes that I write about at great length in my book, Israel and Civilization there.
I mean, all of us are the targets of these freaks.
But to your point, this guy, Elias Rodriguez, you're right.
I mean, this is not a guy who was wearing a kafia named Muhammad from Algeria or Syria or whatever there.
This is a Hispanic guy from a far left city like Chicago.
And Dinesh, you know, I've been protesting numerous times on university campuses now when I speak on these topics.
And what I've noticed is that, yes, there definitely are some radical Muslim students, especially at Michigan, given its proximity to Dearborn and Hamtramck, when I was shouted down for 35-40 minutes by a frothing pro-Hamas mob just a month after October 7th.
But it's not just radical Muslims.
I mean, I typically try to survey my protesters just to get a feel for who for who is shouting me down here.
It's usually white people, black people, Hispanic people, because.
The pro-Jihadi cause, the pro-Hamas cause, has become this new cause celebre on the American and the Western left, the same way that Black Lives Matter was a few years ago, the same way that the Women's March was before that, the same way that the same-sex marriage fight was before that.
You know, they find a new issue every few years.
And for the past couple of years, at least since October 7th, the pro-Hamas, pro-Jihad cause has been the tip of the spear of campus activist leftism.
and this assassin, Elias Rodriguez, is a perfect specimen to come out of that milieu.
I remember, Josh, something that the Colombia-Palestinian Palestinian radical professor Edward Said said, and this is a whole generation ago, and it's in one of his books where he says, he goes, you know, we are trying as Palestinians to make Israel look like the bad guy, the colonizer, but he goes, it's really difficult to do.
I think Said realized at some level that the Jews, even if scattered to the ends of the earth, were in fact originally in Jerusalem.
So they do.
The second point, he said, is that in the sort of rhetoric of victimization, Jews themselves are historical victims.
Look at pogroms, anti-Semitism, the Holocaust.
So he goes, you know, we Palestinians are kind of in an awkward position to claim the victim card because the Jews themselves have been historical victims.
So I wanted to ask you, how is it the case that a generation later, and now basically treats the Palestinians as being the sole victims in this situation.
Well, it is remarkable, isn't it, that the world's most historically oppressed people, I mean, anti-Semitism, Jew hatred, whatever you want to call it, I mean, it is both the world's oldest and the world's most lethal form of bigotry.
I mean, the first instance of anti-Semitism, Dinesh, I would argue, is probably Pharaoh oppressing Moses and the Israelites.
I mean, anti-Semitism goes back a very, very, very long time.
So how anyone could possibly conclude that the world's most historically discriminated and oppressed group of people, this tiny nation, And
I think that most of it is done.
From a deliberate slate of hands, whereby they just conflate Jews with white people.
And it's part of this information operation, a disinformation operation, you might say.
Where they essentially just say that any Jew, especially Ashkenazi Jews like myself from Central Eastern European origin, are simply indistinguishable from notorious white people.
And therefore, like white people, we are colonizers, we are occupiers.
There are more problems with this narrative than one could possibly count.
But just to kind of make it personal and biographical for a second, Dinesh, She's Israeli from Iraqi, Moroccan, Tunisian background.
Her skin is significantly darker than mine.
In fact, when she and I were vacationing once in Mexico for a friend's wedding a few years ago, we were at a resort, and the waiter at this Mexican resort started speaking to her in Spanish because he actually thought that she was Mexican there.
Similarly, when we were in Cairo, Egypt, actually, someone tried to speak to her in Arabic.
So, I mean, this notion that all Jews, you know, look like Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David or something, you know, it's part of this narrative.
It's blatantly untrue.
In fact, Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, Jews from North Africa, the Middle East, and so forth, are actually a much higher percentage of the Jews of Israel than Ashkenazi Jews like myself.
So none of this makes sense.
It's all blatantly dissonant and disingenuous.
But Dinesh, if there's one thing that we know about the left, it is that they relish in disingenuousness and The other fact that they seem to suppress is the colonizing force of Islam, right?
I mean, Islam begins in the Arabian Desert.
It begins really in Medina, after Muhammad gets expelled from Mecca.
But within a century or so, under the subsequent caliphs, Umar, and so on, the Muslims now take the Holy Land.
They take places like Syria, Jordan, Jerusalem, all of which at that time was Christian country.
Then Islamic armies push north into Europe.
They push east into Asia.
They conquer parts of India.
They take all of North Africa.
Ultimately, they're at the gates of Vienna.
This is a massive Islamic colonial entity.
And it was guided by something like five separate Islamic regimes from the Abbasid to the Umayyad dynasties, later on the Ottomans, the Mamluk sultans in Egypt, the Mughals in India.
All of this is very carefully set to the side because it removes the idea of the helpless Muslim sheepherder who is somehow being displaced by some sort of a marauding Jew.
Well, even Saudi Arabia, which has become a close U.S. ally, and the current government under Mohammed bin Salman is very different than the Saudi Arabia that produced the 9-11 hijackers, but even Saudi Arabia to this day has the sword in its flag.
I mean, the sword is kind of inherent in Islam.
It is a religion founded upon the sword.
Anyone who's even vaguely familiar with Mohammed, let alone the broader history that you just quite articulately laid out there, anyone who has any familiarity with Islam could tell you that this is a religion that is not necessarily I mean, how about the Crusades?
I mean, how have you just totally forgot about the Crusades a thousand years ago?
How about as Americans?
How about the First and Second Barbary Wars?
After America achieved independence from Britain prior to the War of 1812, essentially the rematch with the British, we fought two separate wars against the nomadic Barbary pirates off the coast of Tripoli and Algeria and Libya.
I mean, how about the U.S. Marines fighting him to this day, you know, to the shores of Tripoli?
That is a reference to the Barbary Wars.
Heck, that's actually really why Thomas Jefferson expanded the United States Navy, was in order to fight these radical Muslim pirates that were wreaking hell.
So, Islam has been, in one form or another, at a broader state of war with the West for a very, very long time.
One could argue, frankly, since its incipient, since its origins there, the Jewish state of Israel, and in many ways, the Jewish people, or frankly, those who the assassins even think are the Jewish people, like Yaron and Sarah last week, they are merely the tips of the spear of this broader civilizational assault.
Do you think as we close out here, Josh, that the Trump administration's campaign, which appears to be a fairly aggressive one of targeting the entrenched anti-Semitism on the campus, the apparent approval of this anti-Semitism by faculty committees,
by administrative structures, Sort of the, basically the strategy that the Trump people are using against Harvard, for example, but is eminently deployable against other universities.
Is this the right way to go and what else should be done?
Well, I totally applaud the administration's efforts against Harvard.
I think it is two thumbs up, three cheers.
I'm all for it.
I think it's righteous.
I frankly, more generally, Dinesh, as a public policy matter, I think that U.S. taxpayers should not be sending a penny of support to institutions like Harvard.
So anti-Semitism or not, these institutions have not shown themselves to ultimately conduce to the common good, which is the implicit reason that we purportedly subsidize them in the first place there.
But yes, I think that it is past time for the United States to have a top to bottom reassessment as to how we handle anti-Semitism in this country.
Donald Trump is leading by example.
You know, Leo Terrell is heading the anti-Semitism task force, along with Harvey Dillon in the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
They're doing an exceptional job.
is very passionate about this issue there.
The Department of Education crusade against higher ed is going very, very well right now.
But I think that the FBI and DOJ should probably start to condition even more local and state level funding on blue cities and blue states to make sure that they are really increasing their resources to protect vulnerable Jewish communities.
The fact, Dinesh, that so many Jewish Americans, especially in blue jurisdictions, places like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, I live in Florida, so I'm a little bit shielded, senior editor of Newsweek.
Check out the book, Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West.
Josh also has an article in Newsweek, Globalize the Intifada and the Evils of Left-Wing Political Violence.
Josh, thank you very much for joining me.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
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I want to start with this very amusing story that Trump told about this, well, I have to say fat guy, fat rich guy that he was talking about who was taking, as he called it, the fat drug.
I'm assuming he's referring to Ozempic.
And Trump makes the joke.
He goes, well, I don't think it's really working because you're still as fat as ever.
Let me start by asking you about Ozempic because apparently a lot of people are taking It does have problems.
And I think they look at this as an easy fix because they've been trained to do so.
And now it even scares me further that President Trump's lowering drug prices because it's going to make it even easier for them to make the decision to go the easy route, which they think is the right thing to do.
They need to read the warning labels first before they do anything.
There's so many things, Dinesh, that there's the reason not to be using these drugs.
Not easier, but there are healthier ways to lose the weight.
And drugs can only change a symptom into another symptom.
When you lose the weight, there's so many effects with these drugs that you may never recover good health again.
And that's the problem that I see.
Not only is it they think it's easy and fast, and they can be in a bikini in a few months, but they have to think with the other data, too.
I think part of what your message and your mantra has been, listen, you know, it's one thing to just try to reduce the size of your gut.
But there are all kinds of things that you can do to improve your gut or to improve your gut health.
Why is that so fundamental?
And what is a better way of tackling that issue?
Well, before I even get into that, I wanted to say that there are long-term effects, too, from using these weight loss drugs.
They're reporting now blindness, gallstones, kidney stones.
Thyroid cancer.
They've done research on mice where when you give them the active ingredient in these drugs called semaglutide, they develop tumors.
I don't think anybody wants that result.
And then you've got the side effects from these weight loss drugs.
That the majority of people experience gut issues.
They experience acid reflux.
They experience constipation, diarrhea, vomiting, nausea.
They experience so many other things like increased heart rates.
What happens with these drugs is they slow down the digestion so much that you get sulfur buildup.
So now these people have gas that smells like rotten eggs.
They have breath that smells like rotten eggs.
They have burping constantly.
It smells like rotten eggs.
Then they get dizzy.
They get jittery.
They have mood swings.
They also develop rashes on their skin.
They have allergic reactions.
They have trouble breathing.
They even have dehydration and fatigue to the point where they can barely move.
But one of the more important side effects from this is that On average, these people are losing 40% of their muscle, and when you age, you're already losing muscle.
So you're not just losing fat with these drugs, you're losing muscle, and that's not good.
Talk a little bit about the gut and the immune system, and also the peculiar benefits.
Now, I shouldn't say peculiar, but what I mean is the benefits that may seem surprising to people of Kimchi 1. Uh, which has a kind of a South Korean ring to it, and yet it offers a lot to people right here in America.
Talk about that.
All right.
Well, there's a lot of questions in that.
Let me, let me remember all those that you asked me here.
Let's start with the gut.
Why is the gut so important?
Why is that to our immune system?
First of all, we have 70 to 80% of our immune system is in our gut.
When we have a bad, imbalanced gut, we're going to have a sick immune system.
It can't protect us against pathogens in our gut, and it can't protect us against pathogens trying to vape through our skin, through our nose.
The problem in through our mouth.
So here's the thing.
In our gut, we have a microbiome.
And that microbiome is a colony of good guys and bad guys, Dinesh.
We have good bacteria there that should be teeming and flourishing and be the majority.
And then we have, in most people, we have an overabundance of the pathogens.
Those are yeast molds.
They're parasites.
They're fungus.
And so these guys become a problem when they get out of balance because what they do is they make people crave things that will enable them to have an environment like a swamp because all these pathogens are put in our gut so when we are ready to die, they tear our body down.
Well, when you have an overabundance of these guys, So here's the thing.
You've got to keep that gut microbiome in balance.
And when you do, the way that you do that is through fermented foods.
Now, you've got all kinds of fermented foods out there in all the different nationalities.
And you mentioned kimchi.
And kimchi is the king of all these fermented foods, Dinesh, because it's been around for centuries.
It's proven itself.
There are so many studies that have been done with kimchi to show the effectiveness of promoting the good guys in our gut and getting rid of the environment so the bad guys can't flourish.
And so what we decided to do at Breikor is take that kimchi.
that fermented food that people eat every single day in Korea sometimes at every meal and put it in a capsule so Americans will have the benefits of helping their good Bacteria flourish and help get rid of the bad bacteria in their gut because a lot of Americans don't like the way kimchi smells.
They don't like the taste of it.
But kimchi is so powerful.
It gets its power from over 900 different probiotics and so many different unique probiotics that are found nowhere else in any other fermented food.
And have you ever heard of aflatoxins, Dinesh?
No.
Okay, aflatoxins are one of the most harmful toxic substances that we can ingest.
They're in the soil, they're in our food, they're in the air, they're in the water.
And so these things are from aspergillus molds.
And what happens is when we harvest, for instance, our grains, our corn, our peanuts, our tree nuts, our spices too early, they have too much humidity.
And too much moisture left in them.
And then they're transported to storage in dark places where there's very little airflow.
And this is wonderful for molds to grow in.
Now, there's a lot of people that have issues that they can't identify where they're coming from.
Let's say they have a nosebleed, they have red eyes, joint pain, pain in their muscles, headaches even, coughing.
And they're like, what's happening with me?
Well, all of these could be from ingesting aflatoxins.
And why am I telling you about aflatoxins?
Because a study came out that was just published recently, which I got so excited to see, from using kimchi with aflatoxin B1.
It has these unique strains, as I said, that no other fermented food has or any other food.
And it showed by using the kimchi with this Aflatoxin B1 that it killed, it targeted and killed up to 81% in 72 hours.
That's three days.
This is phenomenal.
So it could target things like this in our gut.
Kill 81% off in three days.
Imagine how you'd be feeling after you took Kimchi 1 and you've been having these problems and experiencing the overgrowth of all these pathogens, especially the aflatoxin.
That would be amazing.
I think most people would love that.
You're not going to get that with Ozempic.
If people take Kimchi 1 daily, do you take it once a day?
Do you take it in the middle of the day?
And what are the benefits that you can expect from regular consumption of these kimchi capsules?
Well, people can take it any way they'd like.
I mean, in Korea, they eat kimchi, a lot of them, with every meal.
So if you want to eat it with every meal, it's three capsules a day is the dose.
So take one with each meal or take three all at once.
Whatever you want to do, that's the way that you should take it is at least three every day.
The first thing you're going to notice is improved digestion and regularity.
That's what people notice right away.
People that have had problems with constipation, it's like very quick to be handled.
They notice that their fatigue is gone.
They have a lot of energy because it's getting rid of the bad guys and it's doing it quite well and quite fast.
They're going to have less sickness.
Again, they're putting a good balance of bacteria back in there and getting rid of the bad guys.
All health starts in our gut or all sickness starts in our gut.
We have a gut-brain axis.
We have a gut-skin axis.
We have a gut-hormone axis, a gut-heart axis.
So it affects all the different tissues and cells and organs in our body.
And this is great for people that have heart problems or have diabetes or have liver issues.
There's so many things that our gut affects everything.
So Kim Chi One can help with all these things.
And even your hair.
And your skin are going to show up better once you start using Kimchi One.
People get so many compliments.
They call and say, I want some of this stuff because they notice people's skin has improved.
And again, skin's directly showing outwardly what's going on in our gut.
And they get rid of their brain fog and they want to feel better with their brain health.
So it really does show up in these ways with people.
Kim, I really like having these conversations because not only are you an encyclopedia of information, but as we get to the end, you normally have a great offer to unload on my viewers and listeners so that they go, okay, I'm convinced, I want to go ahead, but I want a good deal.
So give us a good deal that my listeners and viewers can jump on to take advantage of all these health benefits that you've been outlining.
Well, let's unload all the bad toxins out of your body.
Let's unload our gut.
Let's unload the gas.
Let's unload the constipation.
That's right.
Let's unload the brain fog.
So, yeah, let's give you a good deal, Dinesh.
All right, let's see what we got here.
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Agreed.
Guys, spring into action.
Call the number 888-927-5980.
Kim Bright, thank you very much for joining me.
Thank you, Dinesh.
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