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FRIENDS WITHOUT BENEFITS Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep1080
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Coming up, Debbie and I are going to do our Friday roundup, and there's a lot to cover.
The new pope, Mark Zuckerberg's strange new vision for AI.
Basically, he wants to supply you with some new friends, digital friends.
Kilmar Abrego-Garcia's human smuggler job, Trump's cartel solution, Newark's air traffic controller problem, and Texas's own state rep, Dade Phelan.
who has apparently made making memes illegal in Texas.
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There's a bunch of stuff going on this week.
A pretty diverse menu of topics that Debbie and I plan to cover.
But it's been a bit of an odd week because right in the middle of the week, Marched off to Dallas because we have grandchild number two that is, well, due today.
In fact, this afternoon we will finally know the, well, we'll know the sex.
Yep.
And will I be right or wrong?
Right.
So we, I don't know if you're going to be right or wrong.
I think you're actually this time in the mainstream because my sister in India, Nani, Says boy.
You say boy.
And the way I look at it is if it's a boy, then it's a nice kind of complementary boy and girl.
You've kind of got both sides of the coin.
But if it's a girl, then little Marigold has like a buddy, right?
In other words, she'll grow up with a sister who is just a year and a half younger.
In fact, I think you made the point that...
She'll never know life, really.
She'll never remember a time when she didn't have a sibling.
And that is actually, I guess, kind of an argument for having them a little closer together.
That's about the only argument right there.
Poor Danielle.
Yeah, it's going to be tough.
My family in India jokes because my niece, Tracy, whom you know very well, had her baby.
But because the way India is, they have an army of helpers.
And they've got extended family.
They've got help.
And so they kind of marvel how in America we don't do it that way.
You basically fend for yourself and you raise the child or children, as the case may be, on your own.
And that's just the American way where you kind of want to have your own space, have your own privacy, and do it your way.
Yep, that's right.
So all pretty exciting.
Now, let's talk about the new pope.
We haven't really had too much time to digest much about the new pope.
I think we can fairly assume he's Catholic.
Although that's not always a given.
In fact, in Francis' case, Francis may be actually undergoing a lengthy examination.
Up in the heavenly quarters as to his true Catholic credentials.
Well, I think once you get to heaven, I don't think there's religion.
So there's that.
You don't think God has a copy of all the encyclicals?
I don't.
Hey, listen, you deviated quite a bit from the encyclical of 1387, not to mention the Council of Trent.
You're out of sync with the Council of Trent.
No.
Well, I'm a little suspicious of the fact that this guy's from Chicago.
Generally, not a good sign.
What's his name?
Prevost.
Yeah, not Provost.
He sounds like Provost of a university, but no, it's Prevost.
And, you know, the first picture I saw of him...
Leo.
Even though his name is Robert.
Well, they all take another name.
That's why, like, you know, there was Pope Pius.
Then, you know...
John Paul II was, if you remember, he has a Polish name.
Oh, I don't remember.
What was his name?
Do you remember?
Yeah, it was Wotiwa.
What?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, that was his actual Polish name.
But he took John Paul II.
And then, as you remember, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger became Benedict.
Benedict was his papal name.
And so this guy is going to be Leo.
If you look at his first picture, it's very traditional.
He's in papal purple with the sash.
So it looks like his initial image.
He's not trying to look hip.
He's not trying to look like the bohemian pope.
Now, from early social media posts, he does seem to be somebody who is a critic.
Of Trump and the Trump administration on the immigration issue, but you made the point that...
Most Catholics, or the Catholic Church in general, maybe not the conservative cardinals, but in general, very pro-illegal immigration.
Well, I think it's a case where they have a lot of vested interest in this because Catholic Charities is one of the largest NGOs.
Yeah.
It's really sad that that's the reason and not...
Not because you're truly, you know, humbled by these people and you want to help them because, you know, you're supposed to help your fellow man.
No, I think that they do give that reason.
I mean, they will say that there is no such thing as a stranger.
But is that the real reason?
Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is I do think that they have not only a, you know, because they will invoke a biblical justification, but there is also buttressed by a financial interest.
That can't, you know, that's something that people do take into account, though.
It's hard to ignore completely.
All right.
Let's talk about Mark Zuckerberg.
Let me read this to you.
This is actually, I think, quite amusing.
Mark Zuckerberg is explaining how Meta is creating personalized AI friends to supplement your real ones.
And listen to his justification.
Quote, Very Zuckerbergian formulation.
The average American has three friends, but has a demand for 15. So he's obviously referring to some kind of a survey, maybe even a meta-survey.
How many friends do you have?
Most people answer three.
Do you think it's actually not really a survey and it's actually him wanting friends?
Well, if you look at his picture...
You think he's like, I only have three friends and I really want 15, but I'm going to say it's a survey.
Well, let's just put it this way.
You know, by and large, as you know, if you're a billionaire, people will flock to you because you have a very cool yacht and you've got a mansion and you probably have an Olympic-sized swimming pool.
So by and large, people who are billionaires have like 87 friends.
But if Mark Zuckerberg has less than three...
That tells you a lot.
That's true, but he's probably a little annoying.
He's probably hard to be around.
He's extremely, and he's not only annoying when you see interviews with him.
Well, he tries to come across as a normal guy.
And you'll always see, I think that's the reason for why he has a t-shirt, he's wearing typically like a little chain, he's in jeans, torn jeans.
He's trying to give a, I'm a normal guy vibe.
I think he is the ultimate, he's like, you could call him a geek's geek.
Because when geeks get together, there's probably like a super geek.
I think he fits that definition.
You think he's a super geek?
I think he's a super geek.
Which, by the way, is not entirely a criticism because I do think that, I mean, look, you know, geeks, their strength is that they focus kind of laser-like on a particular...
topic or idea or invention.
And so they're often pioneers in certain particularly high-tech Can I give a little bit of advice to the girls out there in high school?
Go for it.
I know there's a slight autobiographical dimension to this, but go ahead.
So, you know, as you know, I was a cheerleader in high school and I didn't exactly...
Go after geeks.
You know, I think, you know, my idea of having a boyfriend was a football player, basketball player.
But in retrospect, how I wish I had gone.
Dated geeks.
Well, you pointed out that one of the ones...
No, no, we're not talking about that.
Well, no, no, no.
I'm simply saying that one of the guys in your class who was a geek went on to a very successful...
He was very successful.
I'm going to leave it at that.
I'm not talking...
You're not going to go into the details.
No, no, but anyway...
So you're making a general point.
I'm making a general point.
Namely that when...
And, you know, you were like...
You were homecoming queen.
You were all this stuff.
And so...
But you had this idea that it would be cool to date the big man on campus.
And you skipped over some of the guys who were...
Because you were like, oh, that guy's too serious.
So let's not talk about me anymore.
I noticed you've suddenly gotten a little bit jittery about the topic.
Probably because some of your friends listen to the podcast.
And they're going to be putting names and faces.
Yeah, no.
No, but the...
I guess the moral of the story is that don't go after the athlete.
Go after the guy with the brains because he's going to be the best catch for you.
And I'll leave it at that.
Now what about this business with Zuckerberg and friends?
Because it looks to me like, and some of the people, by the way, have commented to this effect, saying, look, one of the effects of social media obsession.
And there are people, evidently, and you may think I'm one of these people, who scroll on social media so much that they become a little removed from human contact.
Now, you can't really say that's true of me.
I don't do that.
No.
But...
Only for a few minutes.
Right.
I'm like, Dinesh.
And you're like, huh?
Yeah.
And I go, did you hear anything I said?
And what do I typically...
And you're like...
No.
Why not?
Because he was too busy on Twitter, tweeting.
You know, like, he has these, like, tweets that he, like, really formulates.
And, like, he's, you know, you spend about 10 minutes thinking about sometimes about a tweet that you're going to tweet.
And so I'm telling you the news of the day or, you know, something.
That I think is important.
What is important?
No, no, no.
I do digest it.
But you don't go into meta and go into metaverse.
I don't spend any time on meta at all.
And let alone in this whole artificial world that they're talking.
And they're very proud of it.
I guess where I was going with this is that there are people saying social media creates the problem.
Where people have less human contact.
That's why you have people who go on dates and both people are on their phones.
Or even families that go out together but instead of chatting they're on their phones.
So it creates the problem of isolation and loneliness and detachment.
And then it supplies an AI solution.
Hey listen, we've cut you off from your friends.
Why don't we supply you with some AI friends?
It's almost like saying I'm going to like stab you with a knife and then provide the bandage.
I've created the problem.
That I now propose myself as a solution to.
That's basically what Zuckerberg, I think, is saying.
And just so everybody is clear on this, I sometimes come up with a thumbnail, but I did not this time.
Friends without benefits.
Well, that was my...
That was Dinesh.
And I at first thought, no, we're not doing...
And then I was like, that's actually kind of funny.
Right, right.
But what you're saying is that these friends are fake, obviously.
They're just made up.
And it could be a little dangerous, actually.
Could be a little dangerous.
Look, I mean, there could be a benefit to it in this sense.
If you're a person who has fairly particular interests...
Whether, let's just say you're a stamp collector, or let's just say you like history, right?
It's not going to be that easy in a normal environment where, let's just say you're in high school, how do I find a friend who's going to share my love of history, let's just say, or my love of stamps, or my love of chess, or anything, by and large, because it's a limited universe, right?
You're not advocating...
What I think you are.
No, no, what I am.
To get one of these fake friends that likes chess and you're like, hey, how you doing?
Let's play a game of chess.
Oh, actually, you do play a game of chess with a computer.
Yeah, I do.
Oh, I forgot.
Yeah, exactly.
I was going to say there's a small version of this, except those people aren't fake.
They're real people.
No, they're real people on chess.com.
In chess.com, these are people all over the world.
And I've now noticed...
But you can play a computer on chess.com, right?
You can play a computer for sure.
But I think it's more...
Obviously, it's more fun because when you're playing a real person and typically...
It is somebody in Asia or in Europe.
I rarely get some guy from Africa, let's say, to play.
And it's people of your own level.
So now I've actually noticed that there are people who I don't recognize because they have chess names.
Well, you have a chess name, too.
And I have a chess name.
So people will not say I'm like Tom Smith.
In fact, very often they'll take the world champion.
Let's say the world champion is actually Magnus Carlsen, even though he's technically not the world champion.
But they'll be like Carlsen Slayer, the guy's chess name.
And so I'm playing Carlsen Slayer.
So I recognize that, not the guy's name.
Well, look, I think that...
Artificial intelligence is going to change things in the next 10 years in very dramatic ways in the workforce.
Quite obvious that will also be true in the culture.
I remember about, I don't know, maybe 40 years ago in the 80s, a movie came out about a guy that fell in love with his computer.
Do you remember that one?
You told me about it.
And it was basically kind of like that.
It was an AI person.
And this was like in the 80s.
So this is way before any of this.
And I thought, how ridiculous.
Yeah.
Not to mention, I mean, I think in some ways the most far-seeing of those types of movies is The Terminator.
Oh, of course.
Right?
Because think about it.
The Terminator begins with the idea that human beings have created these machines.
The machines have gotten smarter.
Human beings have carelessly allowed the machines to take over because the machines are capable of making...
And they're, in fact, smarter than humans, and not to mention stronger, obviously.
So you now have a world where human beings become the serfs of the machines.
And when Elon Musk and others talk about the dangers of AI, they're invoking this exact same theme.
Yeah, that's one of them.
Now, the other interesting thing, twist to this, would be if, you know how...
Today, the way we treat our law enforcement, a lot of times we, you know, we treat them like dirt, you know, demonize them.
They actually have to take it upon themselves to, you know, like really survive on the job basically.
Wouldn't it be something if we had AI cops and they were robots and they were badass and they could like snap your neck at...
Any moment's notice.
Can you imagine?
Or, you know, they're invulnerable to human intimidation.
They can't be intimidated.
They're machines.
But yet they're powerful enough to stop a crook.
If they're in a police chase, bullets don't matter.
The criminal could be shooting them and they just keep walking.
There are two things that happened this week.
One is in the Northwest, I think in Washington State, you see these Antifa thugs and the cops are retreating.
They're retreating down a hill as Antifa advances.
And so very...
You know, I'm sure a lot of this is driven by the political authorities.
It's not that the cops are incapable.
Where is this at?
What state?
Like Washington State.
You know, it's the Seattle, Portland area.
I mean, in other words, this is like Antifa headquarters.
But a different story was at Columbia, where they took over a building, the activists did, but the cops were really smart.
Basically, what they did was they surrounded the building.
They made a bunch of arrests, but they also forced everybody to take off their mask and give them their ID.
So this is a way of saying, and in fact I saw Marco Rubio posting yesterday or a day before, basically saying, we're going to be checking out to find out if there are illegals in these protests, we're going to be looking to deport them.
Good, because if there are illegals, they are terrorists, in my opinion.
These people that are protesting this Gaza thing, They're terrorists.
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You know, our good friend David Horowitz died.
Yes.
And we talked about it, but we haven't talked about it on the podcast.
There's a very interesting exchange that he had with one of these Palestinian activists who gets up and, you know, is on her high horse and she's, you know, wearing the headscarf.
And David is very calm and David says, listen, before we get any further, and I'm happy to answer your questions, will you...
And as it turns out, she will not.
Of course not.
And then David goes on to talk about the fact that he even spells out that it is in the charter of these terrorist groups to hunt down Jews and Israelis.
And he says, will you repudiate that?
Will you repudiate this exact statement which is in their platform?
And not only does she not repudiate it, she embraces it, right?
What you have, and it doesn't take a lot of pressure to bring this out, is that these are not just advocates of children or, you know, be more careful so you don't have civilian casualties.
These are out-and-out supporters of Hamas.
I mean, I call them the propaganda wing of Hamas.
They are.
Right.
And Hamas seems very well aware.
That they have a global network that they can count on in the media, in the legal community, in the academic community, students.
And all that Hamas has to do kind of is like ring the bell.
And these people are like off and running to like perform their public relations function.
It's very weird to put it that way because they all pose as if they're...
And you know, when this kid who was arrested at Colombia and he's been temporarily released pending his...
The process.
But he comes out, you know, and he's very cocky.
And he basically says, I'm against war.
As if he's making a neutral position, I'm sure he's not against the original October 7 attacks, right?
That's what kicked off the war.
It's kind of like saying, you know, the Japanese bomb at Pearl Harbor.
We're not supposed to do any retaliation.
We're not supposed to kill any civilians.
The rules of war apply to us, but not to them.
And then someone comes out and goes, I'm against war, even though I said nothing when the Japanese bombed in the first place.
That's right.
No, I mean, look.
You can talk about war and about casualties of war and everything, but these monsters went into homes.
How would you feel if a person, terrorist or whatever, came into your home, raped and murdered your grandmother, raped and murdered your little girl, put your baby in an oven, and shot your dog?
And you know what?
Let's push this even further because this is actually a great analogy.
And let's just say you now, driven to despair and rage and righteous indignation, right?
Let's just say you pull out your AK-47, you pull out your AR-15, and you go after the bad guys.
And guess what?
They are all in their car, and when they come out...
They're holding their own kid hostage.
Their arm is wrapped around their kid and they basically go, if you shoot at me, you're going to kill my kid.
That's right.
That's Hamas.
That's Hamas in a nutshell, right?
And isn't it true that in that situation, you or I or anyone similarly situated would be like...
How evil is this?
You not only perpetrate this evil act, but now you think you can get out of it by grabbing your own wife or grabbing your own kid and daring me to shoot.
I think, if anything, this exposes the even more bottomless barbarism of Hamas.
Even the Japanese...
We didn't do this.
Neither did the Nazis.
And what I mean by that is that the Nazis realized, okay, listen, we have inflicted terrible harm on you.
We're not too surprised that you're doing the same to us because we started it.
That's right.
Right?
And I think the Japanese, the same thing.
In a way, they surrendered after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but they couldn't in effect say, you didn't have the right to retaliate after we came to your country and wiped out...
Half of your...
Population.
Well, your naval force and planes.
Yeah.
No, and what these Hamas people do, it's just incredible.
The IDF will tell the Palestinian civilians to leave.
Get out.
And the Hamas people grab them.
And go, ha, not so fast.
They literally hold them hostage so they know that their headquarters are on top of a daycare, on top of a hospital, on top of a, you know, just a house with a family.
They don't care.
They're evil.
You know, honey, one of the fascinating elements of our Israel trip, and we can push into this a little bit, is that one of the members of our film team, now not our film team from America, because we just went with a skeleton, just really the four of us.
Well, we had a local film team in Israel, and one of those guys was, in fact, in the Israeli reserves.
That's right.
Right?
And you chatted with him, and you were telling me that this is the guy who actually detonates explosives.
Talk a little bit about that.
Yeah, so he told me that he's the guy that will, you know, detonate a certain building that they're told is where one of the Hamas, you know.
Terrorists are.
Or the mastermind or whatever.
So he does that.
But the other thing that he told me that was very interesting is he said, you know, Hamas will put cameras everywhere.
Just anywhere and everywhere, right?
And they have lost so many dogs because the dogs go to sniff out the IEDs.
Is that what they're called, IEDs?
Yeah, explosive devices.
Yeah, explosive devices.
And so they have killed so many dogs doing that, right?
But also, with the cameras, they know when the IDF is in front of a building.
So they will bomb the building.
To kill the IDF.
I see.
I thought you were about to say that the purpose of the cameras is for propaganda purposes so that they can say, oh, look at this rubble.
No, the camera, well, I mean, they probably use it for that as well.
But the camera is to know where they are so they can send an explosion there and kill the IDF soldier.
So he says, you know, that they have to, like, figure out where the cameras are.
And I was, like, thinking to myself, oh, my gosh, can I pray for you?
Because I just felt compelled.
To pray for him because they need protection.
These people are not, I mean, they're so evil.
I can't even imagine going into their domain.
Well, when you're standing, as we did, you know, just 700 yards, not feet, 700 yards from Gaza, you just have this sense that, in fact...
Not just a sense.
We could see.
We could hear.
And smell.
And smell.
It's a war zone, right?
And we had some interesting experiences in Israel.
One of them that I want to mention is that not many days after we returned, this big Houthi bomb goes off where?
Where we were.
The airport.
Tel Aviv airport.
It was the first explosion that I know of at the airport like that.
And, of course, the Israelis immediately hit back.
I mean, everyone's like, you mean the Iron Dome didn't get it?
I was like, I guess not.
It got through.
Yeah, but, you know, when we landed in Tel Aviv, when we went, I got a notification on my phone that...
That the Houthis had bombed nearby.
And I was getting a little nervous because here we were landing.
Well, one of the things they tell you, and this, by the way, they also told us when we went in 2022, in the last 30 minutes of the flight...
You cannot move.
Everybody has to be in their seat.
No going to the bathroom, no getting up.
They lock the bathroom doors.
I remember, this is not funny, but while we were on the flight about to land...
In that 30-minute window, somebody inevitably got up and they got yelled at, remember?
Oh, right.
They start screaming at the guy, sit down, sit down.
Sit down, sit down.
They're very strict about it because this must be an Israeli government regulation and it applies to all airlines.
And I was asking, I was like, why?
You know, I thought, listen, if they bomb the airplane, I mean, does it really matter if we're standing up or sitting down or...
You know what I think it is?
I was thinking about it.
Yeah, your theory is probably correct.
My theory is this.
It has nothing to do with shooting down the airplane.
Yeah.
It has to do with the fact that if you are a terrorist on the airplane, on the airplane, then...
They don't mind.
I mean, it's bad enough if you explode the airplane over the sea.
But they don't want you to use the airplane as a missile to go into Tel Aviv Airport.
Or...
Obviously to go into Tel Aviv and into the buildings and the highways.
So their basic point is that we're going to try to immobilize you as far as possible for the last 30 minutes of the flight so you can't be a bad guy.
So let me ask you a question.
And this is kind of a loaded question.
Do you think that they would ever hire any Muslim pilot to fly into Tel Aviv?
That's a really interesting question because now I would guess that if it's El Al, the Israeli airplane, the Israeli national airline, the answer would be no.
But don't you think even if it's not?
So that's the question.
Don't you think?
So we flew on United and there are obviously other airlines that go into.
We see, you know, a Tel Aviv airport.
So that's a good question.
Well, and let me tell you, let me also say...
That I know that they do profile.
And why do I know this?
Because they profiled us.
They profiled us.
Now, at the airport, we got this really cool thing, which is really fantastic, which is we got to circumvent the normal immigration process.
But it doesn't exempt us from the fact that when we go into this kind of VIP side thing, they know everything about you.
They know who you are.
They know why you're there.
So, in other words, they don't rely on these kind of mechanical things like, show me your passport, I'm going to compare your photo.
Their idea is, we need to know who this person is.
Well, you know, as we were going to the airport, they stopped us.
Right.
And I got a little freaked out.
This was on the way back to the airport.
Yes, this is on the way back to the airport.
But what I mean by profile...
Is they obviously thought I was not an Israeli.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
And not to mention it happened for the second time.
And for the second time.
And they obviously knew you weren't either, right?
Right.
So they were very, like, they checked our luggage.
They had us pull over.
And then they even asked you, who was I?
Right.
Because I think in the profiling, this is how they do the quick sketch, right?
They look over you.
They look over me.
They go, Dinesh is obviously from India.
He's, because I have Indian features, I have Indian skin color.
So they're like, this guy is not like a problem in Israel.
In fact, India, as you know, is friendly to Israel.
But they were like, who's the woman?
Right?
And you have very dark eyes.
I think they thought you might be Arab or you might be from North Africa or you might, they, I don't think they knew.
They didn't know.
And I happen to have a little Jewish in me too, which is funny because I don't have Arab.
But I mean, you don't look Jewish.
No, I know.
And not to mention the fact that when you were stopped the first time, this is before.
Oh, yes.
What happened is we had been in the River Jordan.
Yeah, I had a hair thing on me.
Right.
So you actually looked somewhat like you could be from like Ramallah.
Right?
Yes.
And so the guard, who was basically this young woman with an AK-47, she's like, give me your passport.
I'm like, I don't have my passport, but I have my license.
And I'm like, shaking.
She probably thought, oh gosh, this woman is not from Palestine.
But I mean, it shows you that in that country, and I think this is a matter of necessity, particularly now, they have...
Internal checkpoints.
That's right.
So when you go to the airport, there's a checkpoint before you get into the airport complex.
No, I mean, I can't blame them.
I'm just, I would actually like to be a little more like them in America.
Yeah, right.
That's what I'm saying.
Because, you know, I've always said that I think we go through TSA, you know, pre-check and all that stuff.
And I think the next attack on an airplane is not going to come from a passenger.
I've always said that.
So that's what prompted me to ask.
Do you think it's going to come from a pilot?
I think so.
A pilot, a flight attendant.
It's certainly the cleverest way to do it because those people, think about it, everybody has to sit down 30 minutes before the flight ends, not the pilot, not the staff.
That's right.
They can move around.
Yeah, the crew, right?
So the flight attendant sometimes goes into the cockpit to relieve the pilot when he goes into the restroom, right?
Well, you know, I'm just saying, it could happen.
It could happen.
I mean, it's certainly a possibility they need to be aware of.
Yeah, but I don't think they are.
It needs to be integrated into the screening processes for pilots.
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All right, let's talk about Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
What I think is kind of funny is that there was a time just a couple weeks ago...
When every Democrat, it seemed, was either going or planned to go or had been to El Salvador to, like, check this guy out, right?
And I know there was a female congressman who was like, I'm never leaving El Salvador.
Of course, she, in fact, left shortly thereafter because I saw her back on the floor.
But this guy was like, he was like their George Floyd.
He was their hero.
He was their Hispanic George Floyd.
He was their Hispanic George Floyd.
And then suddenly it stopped.
Like, Senator Chris Van Hollen from Maryland was just, you know, he makes these clips of himself on social media.
Sure enough, he's now blasting Trump for trade and some other stuff, and I'm like...
He forgot about Garcia.
He forgot about Gilmar Garcia, and I think we know why, right?
Yeah.
Which is, number one...
This guy has turned out to be a domestic abuser with now recordings of complaints that were made by his wife.
His wife said it's suddenly become very friendly to him because she's raising money off of his name.
But the other thing more recent, this week, a few days ago, Kilmar Garcia was evidently in a car.
A human smuggler.
A human smuggler.
A trafficker.
Who knew?
I guess the guy that stops the car even makes some comment to that effect.
So suddenly his case is...
It started out Maryland man.
Maryland man.
He was just a Maryland man.
That's right.
And then it turned out that they made it sound like he had a clean record for no reason at all.
He had just been grabbed based upon a wrong understanding that he was not MS-13.
And they sent him to this horrible prison.
And this ex-gangster goes on social media and goes, hey, I know that he's MS-13 because of his tattoos.
Because he was in a gang and he knows how they camouflage those tattoos.
And so their code.
Right.
What I found interesting from the gang member or ex-gang member's account is that the MS-13 guy is not going to write MS-13.
So one way that he can do it is he will take M and he will take each letter, A is 1, B is 2, C is 3, and so he figures out what M is.
He puts that number on his knuckles.
And similarly for S. But obviously to anyone with any kind of knuckles, That's right.
Right?
Yeah.
And the congressmen and senators and Democrats, you know, they're going to die on a hill for this guy.
And he turns out to be a really bad guy and an MS-13 member.
So I think he is right where he belongs and where he should stay.
Yeah, I do hope, though, that there needs to be some turning of the tide with these judges because there are too many...
I mean, basically, you have about 650 of these judges.
Let's assume that about half of them are named, appointed by Democrats.
You have 300 people who can essentially corral the Trump administration on every single thing that they do.
But I mean, can't people, like, just, I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican, you know, just a normal person that's just not political, right?
Yeah.
Can't you see...
That the majority of the illegals that were like gang members and really bad people came through a very porous border because of Biden, i.e.
a Democrat.
And then can't they see that the majority of these judges that are trying to stop Trump from deporting these people are also Democrat?
Can't they see there's like a correlation?
I think these judges don't care.
And I say that because now, if you're a congressman or you're a senator, You're going to worry about this, right?
Because you think if people can see through it, this is why I think Senator Chris Van Hollen has dropped the topic, because he has to run for re-election at some point, right?
But imagine if you are like Judge Tanya Chutkin in D.C. You're not up for election.
You have tenure.
That's true.
And not to mention the fact that in your judicial circle, when you go eat at the Monocle restaurant with three other of your judicial buddies or your journalist buddies, They're like, oh my gosh, you're amazing.
You stopped Trump dead in his tracks.
So these guys love this.
This is their motive.
It's not a monetary motive.
It's that they become heroes and heroines inside of their own social circle.
Yeah, true.
I think that Chief Justice Roberts here is moving way too slowly in slapping this down.
And ultimately, it is the credibility of the judiciary itself.
That is at stake here because if you have judges just, you know, taking things that Trump is doing that are obviously within his authority and just slapping him down, I think that there's going to have to be some reckoning.
At some point, I think even the executive branch is going to be like, listen, we're just doing our job.
You know, tariffs, trade deals, returning illegals to their own countries.
This is our function.
This is why we have a government.
And this is why I was elected by the American people and no one gave the judges an automatic veto on me performing legitimate constitutional functions.
Yeah, and our judges really didn't do this to Biden.
Not at all.
In fact, if you think through Biden's actions, I mean, there were a few.
No!
But second, like the only case that I can think of, of a Biden action, a unilateral action, unsupported by Congress, was the loan forgiveness.
And even there, when the court acted, Biden...
Yeah, so Newark.
Wow, you're going to be flying into Newark.
I'm flying into Newark.
I'm actually speaking at Right to Life.
Riley Gaines is also speaking.
But the Newark, one of the things that I...
So the lady that cleans my teeth, her husband is an air traffic controller in Houston.
And she told me something very interesting that I did not know.
And that is that they get 45 days off when they feel like they're too overwhelmed.
Like a traumatic event.
Yes.
Like they feel like, oh, I have got to, like, they get this.
This is part of their package.
This is allowed.
This is allowed.
And so she says that in Newark, a lot of this is happening.
Plus, they're doing renovations on the runways.
Plus, because there's a lot of this happening and a lot of air traffic controllers are retiring, they're short-staffed, plus these guys.
And then the Philly office or air traffic control place is...
Not up to date with like the new stuff, right?
Well, just the very idea that air traffic control functions that are supposed to be out of Newark are being transferred to Philly is, I don't think, a good thing.
Why?
Because there is a human dimension.
And in fact, we've seen enough of these like accident reconstruction type of documentaries where the air traffic controller is...
Looking out of the window.
Visible.
Yeah.
And he can see there's fog that is approaching or he can see that the airplane has gone past runway C and is now making a wrong turn on runway D1.
And so he can immediately message the pilot and go, hey, you've turned on the wrong runway.
This kind of thing can happen.
Now imagine if you are monitoring the situation.
From Philadelphia.
You're not even there.
Yeah, yeah.
So, this is a little problematic, and I think...
Well, a whistleblower just came out and said, do not fly into Newark.
Right.
Like, literally.
And you did change your flight.
I did move my flight to fly into, you know, LaGuardia, which is...
Better.
Better.
A little more.
But scaring nonetheless.
We need to fix that.
Because Newark is a very, very busy airport.
And it's an international hub, you know?
So they need to fix it.
Let's talk about cartels and about Mexico.
Because this is a case where Trump was trying to do a deal with the president of Mexico.
This Jewish woman, Claudia Scheinbaum.
Yeah.
And she evidently drew the line and said, no, you cannot conduct internal operations in Mexico against the cartels.
And this got us talking about the fact that we think that she is compromised.
She's afraid.
I think she's afraid.
I think she's afraid.
I'm not so sure she's in on it because they're not too keen on having women in the cartel, but I think she's very afraid.
So it's the reign of fear.
I think so.
Yeah, the cartels, I mean, they are terrorists because they terrorize their citizens.
They terrorize the political people.
Well, they terrorize their rival cartels.
They terrorize the families of people that they, you know, I'll kill your family if you don't do this or if you don't do that.
So this is their modus operandi.
Yeah, yeah.
And they actually do take a lot of their cues from Hamas and Hezbollah.
Right.
So we know that.
So they're very bad.
And, you know, Trump, I guess Trump's idea was, listen, we could have some of our troops on the ground helping you with this.
And she was like, absolutely not.
We can cooperate, you know, but not if you come, you cannot come into our country.
You cannot have troops in our country.
You know, I wonder if the...
We talked about, you mentioned the idea of the cartels as an instrument of fear.
I mentioned kind of being in on it.
But there's a third possibility also, which we've heard happens even on...
Our side of the border, which is the cartels are so rich.
Pay off?
That they are a major source of funding for political stuff.
And so they funnel money to candidates.
So back pocket?
Yeah.
They funnel money to candidates.
Because I've heard of this happening in California and in Arizona, where cartel money is a factor.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And somebody was telling me about these congressional seats in Orange County.
And they said, you know, it makes no sense because in all these cases, in the larger Central Valley region of California, you have Republicans are leading.
Then...
More votes come in at the last minute.
The counting has extended multiple days beyond the election.
And in almost every case, the Democrat wins.
But here's the most striking thing of all.
When that happens, the Republican is dead silent.
Because normally, think about it, you've run a campaign, you've raised money, you've put in blood, sweat, and tears.
You're winning.
Then it all turns around seven days after the election or 14 days after the election.
You're going to file lawsuits.
Are you saying that the Republican is the one that's compromised?
That the Republican is the one that has been threatened.
Oh, threatened.
Right.
In other words, that there are cartel figures.
I think Carrie Lake was threatened by cartels.
Well, she has, even to us, communicated that, not necessarily about herself, but the fact that the cartels are a powerful force in the democratic establishment.
I personally think that this is why Katie Hobbs won and why Carrie Lake lost in both races.
And not to mention the Attorney General is apparently a guy who has done work.
For cartel affiliated organizations.
So think about it.
If it is a presence and a force on our side of the border.
Think of how bad it is on that side of the border.
Oh, much worse.
Much worse.
Much, much worse.
Yeah, very scary.
Yeah, so Trump is...
Very scary.
And then, so speaking on this side of the border, Dade Phelan, for those that don't know...
So let's say who Dade Phelan is.
Yeah, yeah.
So he is a...
Because we've talked about him before, but people may not remember.
Right.
Who's this Dade Phelan guy?
So he was the former speaker for the Republican House in Texas.
So state rep.
So he lost that bid, but he did win his reelection as a state rep.
Narrowly.
Narrowly, yes, but he did win.
And so he had this bill, apparently, that would make it illegal for someone to do a meme, a political meme, making fun of a candidate.
Right.
Right?
So you could go to jail, up to one year in jail for doing that.
And my thought is...
Was he just getting a lot of memes from people sending him where he had a mustache or horns or something?
We do remember that there was an episode where Dade Phelan was quite evidently completely drunk.
He was staggering and slurring his words.
Maybe that generated a whole bunch of memes.
Yeah, it could be.
That set him off.
Now let's think about it.
Is it possible that there is Let's take an example.
Let's say that Dade Field were to say, listen, you have two guys who are running for office, and somebody puts out a meme, let's just say, accusing one of them of being a child molester.
It's false.
It's not true.
But he's being portrayed as a child molester, and there's a cartoon of him like molesting a kid.
Right?
It obviously is damaging politically.
It is factually false.
What should be done in that kind of situation?
Now, the truly free market guy is going to say, hey, listen.
Free speech.
It's free speech.
It may be offensive, but it is...
And it may even be false.
According to Dave Feeling, you're going to jail.
Right.
But yeah.
No, but it passed.
It passed.
No, no, it passed.
It passed.
And I think what people are worried about is not even the...
Because, I mean, I tried to make my case...
The worst possible.
Right.
I tried to frame it where it was obviously untrue, obviously unfair.
I'm sure with...
They want to outlaw all kinds of legitimate criticism, appropriate mockery, sarcasm, Babylon Bee stuff.
How does that work?
Because it's a state law.
How does that work free speech-wise?
Can you override that?
For example, if you get accused of putting a meme of Dave Phelan with horns and a big mustache and a tail, do you...
And, you know, you get indicted.
They put you in jail for a year.
Can you, like, say, appeal it and say, hey, I have every right under the U.S. law to do this meme.
What happens?
Okay, so this is the way it works.
By and large, our constitution, being a federal constitution, does not apply to the states.
It applies to the federal government.
So when it says Congress shall pass no law, let's say abridging freedom of the press, this refers to the U.S. Congress.
It doesn't refer to the states.
In fact, even in religious freedom...
The national government was prohibited from having a national religion.
That's the First Amendment, free exercise of religion, no establishment.
But as you know, in the early part of American history, states had official religions.
You could have Puritanism in Massachusetts and Anglicanism in Virginia and so on.
Now, in subsequent years, many of the rights that are in the Bill of Rights The legal term is called incorporation.
Incorporation means that it applies to the federal government and the states.
And I think the First Amendment is one of those.
Which means that no, Texas or any other state cannot override the First Amendment even by state law.
That's what I thought.
That doesn't apply to all our rights.
Some of our rights are only protected at the federal level.
Can abridge them.
Right, can do whatever.
Now, obviously, there are state constitutions.
Remember Texas?
States have their own constitutions, and there could be a free speech clause in those.
And then the state judge would use the Texas Constitution or the Wisconsin Constitution or the Maine Constitution and say, no, this law violates the Constitution of Maine, and therefore we're striking it down.
So there are two different ways to go.
One is to argue, if you're arguing against this law, you'd say it is inconsistent with state constitutions.
Or, alternatively, you can argue it's inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution and that this particular right has now been incorporated.
It's just so dumb and so hard to believe that Texas is a red state when we have dumb things like this passing.
You know, like, how—I mean, we must have a house full of rhinos in the Texas House in order for this to have passed.
Because you could say Dave Phelan's Dave Phelan.
He's a rhino, and that's that.
But the fact that it passed tells you, of course, you know all the Democrats are for it.
Well, that's my point.
I was just going to say, it was another guy named Burroughs, not Phelan, who got elected.
But Burroughs is a Phelan guy.
He's a Phelanite, if you can call him that.
And so in order for Burroughs to get elected, there had to have been a majority of all the Democrats.
Plus a slice of the Republicans gives you the majority.
So I'm thinking the slice of the Republicans are rhinos.
And they voted for this too.
That's right.
The same people who voted for boroughs voted for this as well.
I think that's the case.
And so you do have a real problem, which Democrats don't seem to have in blue states, which is you have a red state, and not a purple state, but a red state that has a de facto, at least Democrat-leaning...
Mm-hmm.
Majority in the House of Representatives.
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