Coming up, Debbie and I here for our Friday Roundup, We're going to talk about a bunch of stuff, a possible Ukraine wag the dog strategy being employed by the Biden regime.
Also, whether a new Trump administration could deploy the Delta Force against the cartels.
We're going to talk about the Lakin-Riley and Daniel Penny cases and the prospects for national voter ID to stop future election fraud.
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And I actually noticed we're heavily into blue today.
In fact, I didn't really quite realize I was going to be in jeans from head to toe.
I've got the jean shirt and I have jeans.
You absolutely do.
And I like those jeans.
Well, it's unusual for me because as you know, well, I'm not like Frank Sinatra.
Apparently Frank Sinatra was asked, how many pairs of jeans do you own?
And he goes, none.
He didn't want to be identified with the 60s or with jeans.
But I'm sort of Sinatra-ish because I think I only own two pairs.
That's amazing.
And of course, my old pair I dropped so much stuff on.
You know what you love, though, is you love corduroys.
I do love corduroys.
Love corduroys.
That is, and you know that orange pear that you used to have?
I'm really glad you don't have any more.
I don't know what happened to it.
Did something fall on it?
No, it was just ridiculous.
At one point, Bruce and I and I don't know who else, we kind of talked you into giving them away because they were your favorite.
And I showed up in my orange pants.
And then you guys made me change.
But since I didn't have any other pants, Bruce and I had to exchange pants.
It was really kind of embarrassing.
And he wore the orange pants.
He wore the orange pants.
I wore his pants, which I can't say fitted me all that well.
But nevertheless...
I'm not sure what, how...
Because, you know, we weren't married at the time that you picked out those orange pants.
And I don't know, what compelled you to buy them?
I mean, what made you...
Well, I think I was...
I think what it is is that, first of all, I was in California for those years, and Californians are very free-spirited.
Second of all, I would do a lot of summers in Europe in those years, and I would see these Italians wearing bright green, orange, yellow, pink.
And so it struck me that these guys are kind of like very whimsical.
And so I kind of adopted that cosmopolitan style.
But of course, when we moved...
Well, we were in California part-time at the beginning.
But then we decided to just pull up our tent and be...
And then I realized when we were in Texas that you just cannot like go to the grocery store with the yellow pants.
But you did.
I did for...
And pink shorts.
For a while.
Now I've moderated.
I still, I think by the Texas standard, I'm a little wild.
You remember when we went to a basketball game, a Rockets basketball game, we were sitting in the front row, and Justin was watching the game on TV, and he goes, oh yeah, I knew exactly where you were because of Dinesh's one of a kind.
My one-of-a-kind attire caught his attention.
I guess just by scanning the entire crowd, he was able to pick me out unerringly.
He knew that was you by your one-of-a-kind sweater.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's talk about this wag the dog business with Biden because I was saying yesterday on the podcast that there's no other way to understand what this guy is doing.
He's endangering the world and To spite Trump.
And of course, Putin is probably looking at this with horror, but also with rage.
And so the irresponsibility of a regime to pull us to a nuclear edge.
But you know what?
I smell Obama all over this.
I don't even think it's Biden, honey.
I don't think Biden cognitively can make decisions like this.
I think he's that far gone.
But I think the Obama gang that has been running the country for four years is responsible for this.
I don't know if you saw this, but Obama himself issues a statement, now is the time for us to rise above our differences.
Oh yeah, no.
He is such a hypocrite.
There is a demon in Paradise Lost called Belial.
And he's just like Obama.
It's Obama.
Yeah, it is Obama.
You know why?
Because Moloch wants to fight.
Moloch wants to sow division.
He wants to declare war against God.
And Belial is like, no, we are in a war against God, but let's pretend like we aren't.
Let's give God the impression that we want to do business with him.
As if God doesn't know.
As if God doesn't know.
Okay, exactly.
Exactly.
But that's Obama.
Oh.
Belial is, unlike Moloch is sort of fire and brimstone, Belial is a little bit effeminate.
You know, he's got...
Are you saying that Obama's a little bit effeminate?
Is that what I hear?
I think that is what I am saying.
I'm not even implying it.
I'm actually stating it outright.
Haven't you seen the latest Obama?
Yeah, no, I have.
Yeah, he absolutely, I mean...
Someone on social media comments, we're just waiting for the HIV announcement from Obama.
Oh my gosh.
But a reflection of how feeble and effeminate he looks.
He's looking a little skinny and just kind of effeminate, as you say.
I read that the Trump people...
Have recognized the danger and the evil of what Biden is doing here and that they are already essentially moving.
And I don't know what moving means.
Are they communicating with Putin?
I mean, I'm sure the left will freak out if they think that Trump is communicating in any way with Putin prior to taking office.
Because that'll be another impeachment thing.
They'll act like somehow he's on the right.
It's just treason.
It's up to the U.S. government.
So Trump is, I'm sure, aware of all that.
Trump better be careful because these people are so...
The Democrats...
Okay, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say the Democrats are more evil than Putin himself.
Right.
It's true.
There was a time when we'd have to state these things with enormous hedges and qualifications.
It's manifestly true.
And let's at least put it this way.
The Democrats are a greater threat to us than Putin.
They're a greater threat to our liberties, to our safety, to our borders, to our crime rates, to our economy and our welfare.
Putin has very little to do with a lot of that.
Yeah.
The Democrats, and who's been putting us in jail?
Not Putin.
Yeah.
You know, it's kind of like when Muhammad Ali was asked, you know, about the Vietnamese.
He's like, you know, go fight in Vietnam.
And basically, Ali goes, no Vietnamese ever called me the N-word.
You know, what he was getting at, same principle.
Yeah.
Namely, Ali's like, my problems are in America.
Yeah.
I don't have a quarrel with Ho Chi Minh.
And similarly, we could say, look, we recognize that Putin is in his own way a strong man, a gangster, but he's not lording it over us.
The Democrats are.
No, true.
And it's so conniving of them to do this and to unleash...
Even to do what you talked about yesterday on the illegals, like loosening up some things, doing an app so that they don't have to meet with the ICE officers in New York City.
And you know New York is a mess right now.
We're going to talk about that a little later.
But it's crazy to me that they are so vindictive, these Democrats, that they are doing these things out.
And they don't realize, if we have a nuclear war, won't they die too?
Well, they're gambling that it won't get to that, but the point is, when we think about the wars of the past, A lot of times there have been catastrophic wars where nobody thought it was going to happen.
The classic example is World War I. Because if you look at...
Unlike World War II had a very dramatic and obvious cause.
Massive Nazi invasion of Poland.
Poland was part of the Allies.
There was a treaty to protect Poland.
And so the moment the Nazis went into Poland, Britain declared war on Nazi Germany.
That's a straightforward development.
But in World War I... There was an assassination of an archduke in Austria.
There was no real cause of it, but it just triggered and it escalated and it became out of people's control.
It was basically like a rock hitting a windshield and then it cracking.
Exactly.
Or just a guy flicks a cigarette out the window and suddenly there's a massive fire which takes down a whole forest.
This is the thing that's going on.
And, you know, The one thing is that this is something that is in the president's control.
It doesn't depend on Congress.
This is the Biden regime using its power irresponsibly in one area where they will still have it and they will have it all the way to January 20th.
I think the lesson for the American people is that this is a party not to be trusted with power.
Because, you know, we can't be a citizen so stupid as to say, you know, we'll give them a chance and see what happens, and if they do a bad job, we'll vote them out.
Because you've got to realize it doesn't take that much to completely destroy your way of life.
And then to rebuild it is, if you can rebuild it at all.
Look at COVID. Look what they did with COVID. Yeah.
Right?
Look at how COVID was such a horrific, not just the fact that they lied about a lot of things, but they closed down the economy for no good reason because they really...
COVID was not that bad to close down the economy the way they did it.
And so they left a complete mess.
A huge dent.
All to blame Trump.
And this is not even getting into the way in which the government was involved in the gain of function that produced COVID. Involved also in the cover up that protected China.
Involved in all the lies, all the censorship.
So there was economic ruin, but there was also an unprecedented assault on our civil liberties.
And I thought it was interesting how earlier this week, Rebecca Koffler pointed out that in Ukraine, there are no free elections.
In Ukraine, there's no normal democracy.
There's no normal civil liberties.
Zelensky's term is already up, but he's not stepping down.
He's not backing up.
The pretext of war, just like a pandemic, is a justification for...
Tyranny.
Yeah, and she made a very chilling statement where she said, I wonder if...
The Biden people are doing this not just to mess up the world for Trump.
But to stay in power.
But to stay in power.
Even for me...
It's a little far-fetched.
Now that we've had the election.
See, if they had done it before the election, then go, we can't have an election because we're at war.
That would be ruthless and very evil of them to do.
Well, it still is.
It still is.
And I think it's harder to do now.
Once you have an election...
I don't think there's any reason not to have a transfer of power, really under any circumstances at all, because the people have already rendered their verdict.
So I don't think they can pull that off.
But Rebecca did suggest that it might have crossed their mind.
Well, they might be trying.
They might be trying.
Yeah.
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Let's talk about the issue of Trump pledging to draw on the military to deport these illegals.
First of all, to me, it indicates a certain seriousness about this because short of using the military, it's really hard to see how ICE by itself Could round up 10 million people in the country, all scattered.
Many of them, you don't know where they are now.
They have a court date at some future point.
But where are they?
Who are they?
ICE is not going to be able to do it on its own.
So it's interesting.
You showed me the video of Tom Homan, the nominee to head up this operation.
And this guy is...
He's got a funny way of speaking, but he's very straightforward.
And it looks like he's also...
He's like the kind of guy who's unmoved.
Because normally you're like, okay, well, you know what?
We're just going to show some kind of crying illegals on CNN. And then we're going to get, you know, Ana Navarro and all these characters, you know, railing about it.
And then the Republicans immediately run away from this.
I think we're at a point where that's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen in part because...
First of all, the American people have said in surveys that they are on board with this.
And not only that, the very groups that seemingly are affected by it, Hispanics, for example, are actually more in favor of deportations than whites.
So there's no reason for Trump or for the administration to back off.
And the only question is, can they pull it off?
Yeah.
Well, they seem to have a plan, right?
And, you know, Governor Abbott has been trying to get rid of, to deport and stop from coming, you know, on the border, wanting to put the wall back up, all those things, and he hasn't been able to.
Well, let me say something.
I do think that Governor Abbott is the In a way, the genius that has created the political annoyance that is now the backbone of support for the deportations.
And here's why.
As long as the problem was confined to Texas, to California, the Californians were okay with it, and the Texans were not okay with it, but the problem was here in Texas.
So the moment Governor Abbott goes, you know what?
I'm going to send 10,000 of them to New York City.
I'm going to send 5,000 to Chicago.
What he did was he nationalized the exposure.
He did.
And then DeSantis followed suit.
DeSantis followed suit.
So this was a political masterstroke.
It was.
Right?
But continue with your thoughts about Abbott and where this is going.
So he offered, I believe, 1,400 acres, something like that, to build a facility to house all these people so that they could process them and then send them back.
According to Mr. Tom Holman, he said that they were going to get these airplanes and that they were going to process these people, find out which country of origin they came from.
Get their papers from this country of origin.
He said it would take about two weeks.
And then just put them on an airplane and send them back.
And remember I told you last night, I said, well, I would be a little creeped out if I was one of the pilots.
Because...
You're thinking of all these Trendy Aragua, these Mexican gang members.
And then I thought to myself, well, they're not Al-Qaeda, so they're not going to be on a mission of a, you know, suicide, you know, kamikaze, whatever.
Well, this is what I think Tom Holman has in mind.
What he has in mind is I think he knows that ICE does not have...
Sufficient personnel, but also sufficient equipment to pull this off.
So his idea is the military.
So he's talking about using military planes.
If you use military planes, you're going to have guys with machine guns, and there's going to be no problem.
Because as you know, and I know, and this is a topic we want to talk about in a little bit more detail, is the deployment of the military, not just to escort Dangerous, in many cases, dangerous illegals back home, but also maybe to strike out against the cartels.
Because the cartels have had this flourishing operation in drug trafficking, human trafficking.
I think the cartels are mainly responsible for the influx of all the Mexicans coming in.
You know, all the illegals that have come in from Mexico.
I'm not talking about Central America or South America, but I'm talking about Mexico, which is a large number, right?
The people, the citizens are afraid of these people because what do they do if you don't participate in these drug smuggling operations?
They threaten your life and in some instances they will kill your family member, put their head in a suitcase and send it to you as a, you know what, this is what's going to happen to the rest of your family.
And so these people are frightened for their lives.
So somebody has to stop him.
And Trump had this brilliant idea of sending Delta Force.
I mean, listen, if he did that, these people would be, like, wiped out, these cartels.
Because Delta Because it's one thing to talk about the U.S. customs, or it's another thing to talk about the border police.
It's a whole different matter to send in the most highly trained SEAL teams.
Absolutely.
And essentially, it's like, take out the crime families.
You'd be doing a favor to Mexico, too.
You actually would be.
But the other thing, you know, that people are, oh, God, here we go again.
You know, we're going to send in the military.
We don't want to do any—we want to leave our military alone.
But here's the thing.
I'm not a neocon, but I'm not okay with other countries, with the threat coming from other countries.
And there's a threat coming from these cartels into our country.
Both human trafficking, fentanyl, all kinds of other issues.
Well, if you talk about a border invasion, they are part of the organizers of the invasion.
In fact, I read that even though you're right, the majority cartel control is primarily over the citizens of Mexico.
But think of it.
If you're coming from some South American country through Mexico, you still have to pay the cartels.
You do.
Right?
Because they're your escorts.
Yes, absolutely.
They're going to bring you to the place in the border where you can get through.
They're the watchers.
Yeah, they're the watchers and they're the organizers.
Yeah, they are.
In coordination, or at least in implicit coordination with the Biden regime.
So we have a gangster operation, otherwise known as the U.S. government, and you've got another gangster operation known as the cartels.
And these gangs are working together in that sense.
And so there is a severe need to disrupt this whole thing.
Destroy.
And short of using the military, it's really hard to see how you could...
Also, I believe that Trump wants to put the cartels back into a terrorist watch list because, remember, they were removed, I believe.
They were part of it and then they were removed.
They are terrorists.
They terrorize people.
Isn't that what the definition of a terrorist is?
Yes, and also you were telling me just a day or two ago that look at the chaos they're causing in this country, right?
Not only are they preying on citizens, but you told me that the Mexican mafia is now getting into it with Trendy Aragua.
So the Venezuelan gang and the Mexican gangs in this country are fighting each other.
And we've heard also about the black gangs in Chicago being threatened by the Venezuelan Trendy Aragua gang.
And so there's tension there.
Well, you know, I have, I mean, obviously there's, I think, maybe over a thousand gang members from Venezuela at Renderagua.
And I think that those should be the very first, the very first priority.
Priority boarding.
Boarding to go back to Venezuela.
Now, Maduro won't want him.
Right.
He doesn't want him back.
However, I think Maduro should be on high alert right about now.
I think what you're saying is that, and this is actually something we should talk about pretty openly, namely that there is an opportunity, and it may be a window of opportunity, for Trump to produce regime change in Venezuela.
I think so.
I don't want to say what because I don't want to...
Well, we don't know what it would be, but what we do know is that the United States is in a position to carry this out very effectively.
Now, it's very difficult to say why this is a bad idea, because there is a consensus that this guy is not legitimately elected.
He's a usurper.
He's a dictator.
He's a narco-trafficker.
He's a narco-terrorist and narco-trafficker.
He has opened the door to Iran and Russia and China, all three, All three.
And he is a threat to the United States and to our security.
And to his own country.
But more importantly, as you say, it's America first, right?
Right.
So now, again, this is a complex topic because people always say, well, here you go, Dinesh.
You have a neocon streak.
You're talking about...
Well, what we are talking about is not...
Declaring war in Venezuela, deploying U.S. troops.
What we're talking about is surgical operations that can be organized seven different ways.
And Trump, we know, is not averse to taking out dangerous terrorists.
Al-Baghdadi, Soleimani.
And so Trump recognizes that there are really bad guys in the world.
And all we're saying is Maduro is one of them.
Oh, he's absolutely one of them.
One of the worst, really.
You also made the point, which I think is worth emphasizing, that a lot of times these dictators are surrounded by yes men.
Yes.
There are generals who are like, yes sir, yes sir.
But part of what those generals are doing is protecting their own position.
Well, as you know, my childhood best friend is married to one of his generals.
Right.
So I absolutely know that she's a good person.
He may be a good person, but he's enthralled in this horrific organization.
He doesn't have a choice in a sense, right?
If he were to go against Maduro, it's going to be boom.
I think it would be a very, very bad idea for him now, right?
Right.
But I do know that a lot of these generals, if given the opportunity, would turn on Maduro like that, you know, on a dime.
And let's...
I don't know.
Yep.
Let's hope it happens.
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Brian, right here in the studio, had really a brilliant observation.
Intended humorously, but I think there could be something to it.
And Brian's idea is simply this.
The new administration should simply purchase Spirit Airlines.
Why?
Because it's the perfect delivery vehicle for these illegals.
Not only because it's bankrupt, so the airline is obviously going very cheaply, but Brian goes on to point out that the employees are well-trained in handling unruly...
Customers, right?
You've seen all those videos where the Spirit Airlines employee, first of all, not only do they start screaming at the customers, but they use the F word.
To each other.
To each other.
We're not even talking about customer service.
We're talking about, like, co-worker service.
Yeah, yeah.
They hate each other.
It's, like, unreal.
I mean, I can't even believe it.
And yet, we gotta say that we do know at least two people who are great fans of Spirit.
Huge.
And, in fact, they like going on Spirit.
I think it's obviously partly because of the good deals.
I think that's the only reason.
But...
Because it can't be.
It can't be any other reason.
They like the atmosphere.
The entertainment.
The Jerry Springer show right on the airline.
You don't need any other entertainment, right?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
All right, so let's talk about what we want to talk about in this segment is the Daniel Penny trial, which is going on, and also the Lakin Riley case, which was concluded, I think, rightly so, with this guy who murdered I think, rightly so, with this guy who murdered Lakin Riley, this illegal life in prison, right?
With no parole.
But look at this.
You saw this, but I don't know if all our viewers and listeners have seen it.
This is the letter.
Lake and Riley's stepfather reads a letter she wrote to her future husband shortly before being killed.
And this letter is, I mean, it's the kind of thing that wrenches at your heart.
But I just want to read.
I don't know if I'll read all of it, but let me read some of it.
To my future husband, I want you to know that I'm thinking about you.
I'm working every day to become the best wife I can be by working through my current relationships to best prepare me for ours and our kids.
I mean, how insightful.
I'm focusing on God and what He defines as a faithful Christian wife so I can best embody those characteristics.
I pray we will continue to glorify the Lord, prioritize Him in every aspect of our lives.
I pray God is the center of our relationship.
She goes on, I thank Him for you.
Look at this.
Before I even know you and can't wait to love you in the best way.
May our relationship last forever, your future wife.
Wow.
Incredible.
I mean, this was just a beautiful soul, right?
Sorry.
Yeah.
And how horrific.
And guess what?
The guy who killed her...
Was being put up free in a hotel by our government.
They were paying his...
Complicit in her murder.
They're complicit in her murder.
They are.
And the other thing I want to point out is you notice the big...
Kind of national day of mourning that the Democrats had for George Floyd.
All this kneeling.
All this drama.
The golden casket.
No, don't go there.
I'm not going to...
No, don't go there.
Debbie is asking me to abstain from an inspired analogy that I'm going to have to withhold.
But nevertheless...
But you see what I'm getting at?
And now, Lake and Riley...
Not a word.
Schumer, not a word.
Well, because they're complicit.
They are complicit.
In other words, it's not just the Biden administration.
You're saying, in a way, the Democratic leadership is complicit.
All of them.
Because this is their policy.
This is what brought about this...
It's on them.
Had Trump been president, she would still be here with us today.
Yeah.
And we've got to keep this in mind.
The...
Just the heart-rending scenes from that trial when we're doing the mass deportations.
Because you know there's going to be a dramatic effort to convince the American people that all of this is cruel, it's insensitive, look at what these meanies in the Trump administration are trying to do.
This is what we are trying to prevent.
This is the kind of thing that's been happening in this country.
Lakin Riley is not the only one.
No.
She may be the only one who has gotten this level of attention, and she may be the one where some of this is on video.
Like, I just saw this morning her roommate put out a video Just the two of them frolicking around in their dorm room and just kind of being silly.
And you just realize that this life is taken away.
And of course, you're going to have the Don Lemons of this world, the Rachel Ma.
They'll be like, well, no one is saying, no one is able to prove that the crime rate of illegals is higher than the crime rate that is in America.
But look, who cares about that?
Yeah, but an illegal killed her.
Exactly.
The point is that this would not have happened.
That's right.
Yeah.
So it's one, even if the illegal crime rate was a crime rate of one person, it's one too many.
Right.
And so this is a preventable death and it's a death that...
And this dude was part of Trendaragua.
Just so people know that this is going to be, if we can't get these people out of this country, there will be more Lake and Rileys.
Lake and Rileys, yeah.
I mean, Trump made the observation in vindicating Trump that these countries are emptying out their prisons.
They are.
And then Trump said a very striking thing, which is very Trumpian.
He's like, you know, he goes, that's what I would do if I was in their position.
Yeah.
Which is Trump's ability to see the world from different angles and recognize that, look, you've got other guys and they're in a way protecting the interests of their own country.
They're like, look, if another country is willing to take the worst of the worst from our country...
Sayonara!
Well, you know, they're all really warped in Venezuela, let me tell you.
Because as I think I mentioned this a while ago, so these guys, these Tren de Aragua people, they had a prison in Aragua, which is why they became the gang in Aragua.
Tren de Aragua, so the train of Aragua.
Aragua is the place, the state where they lived.
Anyway, so apparently Maduro...
Built like a zoo in the prison for the families of these guys.
So they were treated very, very well, these people.
And those that got out of prison were like thugs on the street, but sanctioned by the government.
So they could do whatever they wanted.
So there was this...
And my cousin told me that these guys basically would extort money from people, kidnap people.
They were horrible people in Venezuela.
Well, so I want to say two things about that.
One is that these kinds of quasi-fascist regimes deploy street thugs, right?
The brown shirts, the black shirts, Antifa, and the collectivos in Venezuela.
And the other thing is that in this kind of a regime, a collectivist, socialist, quasi-fascist regime, the really bad guys who are criminals are not treated as criminals.
And the people who are treated as the worst criminals are always the political criminals.
That's right.
Which is to say the political dissenters.
Well, look at Alvin Bragg right there.
I was going to make the exact same point.
We'll talk about that in the next one.
Namely that the same thing is now happening in our country where a January 6th protester who walked into the Capitol for 10 minutes and did nothing is a higher priority target of Merrick Garland than a murderer.
That's right.
And Alvin Bragg with Daniel Penny.
Daniel Penny.
Look what's happening there.
Let's talk about that.
Yeah.
So I saw today Daniel Penny's interrogation by the cops.
Yeah.
And it's very eye-opening.
First of all, Daniel Penny doesn't know that the cops are not his friends.
And yet the first thing they say to him, oh, you're a Marine.
One of them goes, well, I'm a Marine.
Yeah.
But you know what?
I heard that the cops actually thought he was a hero.
That it's not the cops.
It's not the cops.
They sent it to the DA's office.
It was the DA, Alvin Braggs, that got him back in.
So what you're saying is that the cops basically were sympathetic to him.
They were.
And from the situation, they realized that he was protecting people.
That he was a good Samaritan.
It was Alvin Braggs that brought him back in.
And now, I mean, think about what they're doing.
First of all, I saw a very interesting tidbit, and I haven't been following the trial.
I don't mean to get into the details of it, but it basically said that even though he choked that guy to restrain him, That guy was not dead.
He didn't die.
No, he did die then.
Right.
They took him away.
They're supposed to render medical aid.
That's right.
He dies later, right?
That's right.
So right away, you have to ask the question, I suppose technically, if somebody is choked and dies later, you could still say he caused it.
He caused the death.
So maybe that's what they're going for.
But apparently the people around Daniel Penny saw him as applying necessary force.
Evidently, one of the things I saw they were talking about with regard to the trial is that there are different types of chokeholds.
And there are chokeholds that are designed to restrain somebody.
And Daniel Penny was using one of those.
He was somebody trained to be able to apply force, and he was applying force in the appropriate manner.
It's hard for me to see how you get a conviction, even in New York, even with Biden voters and Democrats.
And this past week alone, Monday, two on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, these criminals in the subway have either caused harm or murdered.
It's like their crime rate is gone up.
Violent crime rate has gone up.
And Alvin Braggs feels like this guy is the threat.
Wow.
I mean, tell me how ridiculous this man is and how he keeps getting elected.
I do not understand.
I never will.
Well, you know what?
To be honest, I think this explains the steady movement in a lot of these cities toward Trump.
Trump didn't win New York City, of course.
Neither did he win Chicago.
Neither did he win San Francisco.
But guess what?
even in blue America there was an uptick Yeah.
Yep.
The electorate moved, and in fact, it moved more toward Trump in those places than in the swing states.
It's interesting, in the swing states, it moved two to three points, and in some of these areas, it moved 10 points toward Trump.
So that tells you that politically, and it's very slow, Americans are slow learners, but the American people are taking notice.
Debbie and I have both been watching the spectacle in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, where they were trying, and not only trying, they might still be doing it, counting ballots.
Think about where we are in November.
Right now, it is crazy that they're still counting ballots in other places, too.
They're counting ballots in California and After two weeks.
Two weeks later, they're counting ballots and all the seats for the House have not been decided yet.
And I also noticed some real problematic cases where, in one case, I believe this is in North Carolina, a Supreme Court race.
The Democrat at the very last minute pushes like 30 votes ahead.
And the Republican, by the way, has noticed that there are dead people who are voting and And so we're going to be hearing more about this, right?
But let's talk about Bucks County, Pennsylvania, because you were watching today the circus in which the Bucks County election people were confronting the citizens.
And what happened?
Yeah, so the citizens were very angry, let's just say.
It was like the entire room were conservatives.
And I don't know what that lady's name is.
Well, her name is Commissioner Ellis Marsaligia and also a guy named Bob Harvey.
Okay, so the Mark Seligia woman was talking about, well, you know, there have been, like, things that have been going on, including the fact that, you know, Roe v.
Wade was overturned, and people went nuts when she said that.
They booed her like there was no tomorrow.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
Well, the really incriminating thing that she said, what she said...
Yeah, people disobey court decisions all the time.
And then she backtracked.
She backpedaled.
Now she's saying, well, I misspoke.
I was a little heated.
My emotions got to me.
Well, you know what?
I was thinking when I heard that January 6th, defendants could say, well, you know what?
I was a little overheated.
My emotions got to me.
And therefore, I disclaim any responsibility for my actions.
That would never fly.
So why should it fly in her case?
I saw Laura Trump and she was saying, you know what?
We're pushing ahead to get these people arrested and indicted.
And that, it struck me, is a new...
display of strength by the RNC because the old RNC would never have done it.
I can't see Rona McDaniel having done it.
But this RNC wants to penalize election fraud because they realize that penalizing it is the way to stop it from happening again.
It's the only way.
And it seems like these people, you know, they get caught red handed and they don't know what to do with themselves.
It's like, oh, well, you know.
But yet there was such a push to make all of us that thought there was fraud look like Oh, unsubstantiated reports.
Most secure election in US history.
Ever.
This whole notion that the election was stolen.
Oh, that's bull.
But yet, it's coming out more and more that indeed these people cheat.
And not only do they cheat like this, which is super obvious, right?
Getting illegals to vote, getting dead people to vote.
Those are...
Not to mention counting invalid votes even after the Supreme Court has told you you cannot count those votes.
You have to go back to the Supreme Court for them to reaffirm their earlier decision and essentially say stop the count.
And by stop the count, they mean stop the illegal count.
That's right.
That's right.
And so anyway, and then the other point is, you know, we're going to talk a little bit about the national voter ID. And the reason these people resist it so much is because if you have that...
A voter ID law, then they're not going to be able to have dead people vote anymore.
They're not going to be able to have illegals vote.
Homeless people that are just, you know, lying on the street where they're like virtually unconscious, right?
They go and they make them sign and there's their vote.
They won't be able to do that anymore.
So those are all the little ways that they get away with cheating, right?
Right.
There are countries in Europe, I think Norway is one of them, where they have employed blockchain technology.
Now, it's worth saying a word about this.
And as you know, I've been reading, in fact, taking a course, an MIT course.
We won't get into the broader implication, but the course is on blockchain.
That's part of it.
And I'm learning probably more than I want to know about blockchain.
But I will say this.
By and large, blockchain is nothing more than an immutable, which means unchangeable, ledger, right?
So a ledger is an accounting system.
It's kind of like every transaction that you record financially, you write it down in a book.
That's a ledger.
What blockchain does is it takes...
A ledger and it makes it permanent so it's unalterable and it does this using software and so the impact of blockchain is that if you apply blockchain technology to elections The blockchain was invented so you couldn't use the same currency more than once.
Think about it.
One of the problems with the dollar bill is what if you have a currency that someone could spend again and again and again?
And then there's obviously a risk that if you have digital currency, somebody will use a digital dollar again and again and again.
Blockchain makes that impossible.
Why?
Because there's a ledger.
Which is another way of saying, you already voted.
In other words, your transaction of voting is the same as a financial record in a blockchain, right?
And so there's no way to duplicate votes.
There's no way for someone who is not eligible to vote.
There's no way, for example, to...
Which only means the Democrats won't go for that idea.
That's kind of what you're getting at, right?
They will hate the idea of cleaning up the system.
And it's almost as if...
The ordinary Democrat has an intuition that they are a rogue operation, right?
And that's why they're like, oh no, voter ID! And the reason that they give is always preposterous, right?
Because you made a point this morning at breakfast, you were like, why aren't the Democrats against voter ID in other cases, right?
Why aren't they against voter ID when you have to, what do you use?
Buy liquor.
Buy liquor.
Or go to a doctor.
Why don't they say minorities don't have ID? Get on a flight, right?
That's right.
They're okay with- Can I go to the TSA guy and go, that's racist that you're asking me for my ID? We are persons of color, right?
We are unable to produce ID. I'll whip out my 23andMe.
You're like, do I need to have ID, or may I simply demonstrate that I'm 113th Native American, I'm 110th African American, and there you go.
That's all you need to know.
I'm not one of those people who's able to produce an ID. Don't you think they would throw my butt in, like, you know...
Well, you would have to leave at the very least, right?
You couldn't...
They wouldn't let me board a flight.
Are you kidding me?
Right.
But yet we are asking the American people to be, or letting the American people vote when they don't have any proper ID? This is what some Republicans don't get, because I find, you know, in talking about this issue, you have Republicans who say something like, they're like, well, you know, here's a system that if we can adopt it, will ensure that our elections...
And what they don't realize is that the problem is not in coming up with ideas for having a fair system.
The problem is that we are in a two-party system where one of the parties is the cheating party.
Cheating is what they do.
They've been doing it for 150 years.
They ramped it up under COVID. They're always looking for new mechanisms to cheat, and they will systematically oppose.
So in other words, it's a contest of power.
I just got an idea.
You have to make a movie that shows the cheating from the get-go to now.
You mean going back to the 19th century, just laying it all out?
Immigrants coming off the boat from Ireland or Scotland?
Didn't you do a movie like that already?
Well, we've covered some of this in terms of the Democratic plantation.
That's true.
And I suppose it is still the case that that's their goal.
They are the party of the plantation from day one.
Why do you think I got involved with Catherine and True the Vote in 2012?
For fun?
Just because I thought it was kind of a cool idea?
No, because there was cheating going on even then.
So this has been a pattern of these people for so long.
And it's about frickin' time that somebody puts a stop to it.
Yeah.
I think the Trump people are, they have the determination to do it.
You know how central this issue is for Trump.
Notice I said frickin' time.
But yeah, I did notice.
Fortunately, we weren't talking to 17-year-old Debbie who might have given a different formulation in her freshman year at college.
Stop!
But that was a different Debbie.
Yeah, that was a different Debbie.
A different time.
That's right.
That was a Democrat.
No, just kidding.
Look, I think that I don't know about the Republican Party as a whole because we are very weak-kneed about these types of issues.
But Trump is not.
This is a...
If one could go to Trump and show him this is the way to do it, let's try to get this as a federal law.
Now, states can still, by the way, run the elections their own way, but there's nothing that says that you cannot have, for example, a federal ID requirement that is a prerequisite For the formats that the state laws...
In fact, we know that this is true.
Why?
Because the Democrats were trying to pass a law that said the opposite.
Remember H.R. 1?
That's right, H.R. 1. So if you can't pass a law in this direction, you would not have been able to pass a law in that direction.
Can you believe those scoundrels were trying to pass that law?
I mean, of course you can.
Almost a no-ID law.
Of course you can.
Yeah, so this is a situation that— I get a little heated when talking about Democrats because they're such scoundrels.
I'm sorry.
Well, Trump has made the—you know, he said in rallies, and I think this was the meaning— Democrats tried to make this look like he was talking about being a dictator, where he said, you'll only have to vote once.
But I think what he meant was, bring me in— I will fix the system for you.
And so we'll get it done in the next administration.
And so I think it is important to, in fact, get it done.