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BIDEN VS KAMALA Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep 871
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All right, well, we have a lot to get to today.
We're going to be talking all about Biden, Harris, what's going to happen with Biden the rest of this year, how is it looking with his health, what is going on with the lies from his administration, as well as the left-wing media.
We're going to talk about all of this with Steve Malzberg.
He'll be joining us today to break it all down for us with the news of the week.
So stay with us.
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On September 17, 1944, more than 41,000 Allied paratroopers were dropped deep into the Nazi-occupied Netherlands to capture nine bridges.
This was the beginning of British General Bernard Montgomery's offensive, known as Operation Market Garden.
The goal was to end the war before Christmas by creating a route into northern Germany and by blocking the German forces from escaping.
Unfortunately, it failed.
Many lives were lost unnecessarily, and with American, British, and Polish soldiers bogged down in the West, it would be Soviet troops who claimed Berlin in May 1945, a fact that would prove disastrous for post-war Europe.
At the time, the Allied generals claimed that Operation Market Garden was mostly successful, causing Prince Bernard of the Netherlands to remark, My country can never again afford the luxury of another Montgomery success.
Well, fast forward to today, and we have another bridge Americans are being told they must defend at all costs.
And that is Joe Biden.
Remember back in March of 2020, when Biden calmed voters' fears about his age and ailing health by insisting he was just good ol' Scranton Joe doing his final duty for the country by helping Americans unite after four difficult years of division and strife?
Biden told us, look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else.
Then, referring to the three vice presidential hopefuls who were campaigning with him, Namely, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Gretchen Whitmer.
Biden said, quote, there's an entire generation of leaders you saw standing behind me.
They are the future of this country.
Well, they continue to stand behind him because he and his surrogates are demanding that these future leaders defend his failing campaign at all costs.
Everyone knows that the Democrats and the media have been deflecting questions about the president's poor health, his cognitive decline since before the 2020 election, but it's gotten much worse.
Biden's performance during the debate showcased his problems so vividly that even the mainstream media, even Democrats, are starting to admit that the lie has been stretched far past its breaking point.
As Biden's poll numbers continue to take a nosedive, the battle between those openly calling for Biden to step aside and those who insist Democrats must stay the course is intensifying.
Seeing Biden weakened and humiliated by the debate has been upsetting for Democrats, but also Republicans alike, because he's currently the president.
Donald Trump's restrained response to Biden's obvious impairment was telling.
Likewise, Democrats' reactions to Biden's dismal performance at the debate were also revealing in that they have starkly highlighted Donald Trump's strength and authenticity as a candidate.
For example, Hollywood Democrats, who are demanding that Biden leave the race, have suggested that withholding money until Biden is swapped out for someone with a better chance of winning is going to be their new strategy.
Writing for Deadline on July 3, writer, producer, and Democrat megadonor Damon Lindelof suggests enacting a dembargo.
No checks written, he demands, and no ActBlue links clicked for anyone, at least until Biden is thrown aside as the candidate.
Lindelof writes that we must treat Democrats as we would have other countries treat us, to use his words, by, quote, behaving how we want them to.
By applying, quote, harsh economic sanctions.
In this situation, the wealthy donor class can bring their candidate to heel, Lindelof promises.
Shortly after the deadline piece was published, Netflix co-founder Reed Hastings added his agreement, stating, quote, Biden needs to step aside to allow a vigorous Democratic leader to beat Trump and keep us safe and prosperous.
Prosperous.
Hmm.
I can't think that that's something that the Democrats will do for us, no matter who it is.
That could be a subliminal suggestion that their prosperity is tied to their obedience, Netflix.
I don't know.
But can you imagine donors that would assume they could bend Donald Trump to their will by refusing to donate to his campaign?
Even their supporters think Democrats are so mercenary that they will just instinctively follow the money, even if it requires throwing out a duly elected candidate who won their primary.
Not so with Trump.
Whether you agree or disagree with his policies, his strength of character is always apparent.
With Democrats, it's a completely different story.
Lindelof publicly shaming Democrats by appealing to their avarice speaks volumes.
This isn't some convoluted script you can just throw a smoke monster at to resolve a plot issue.
This is the office of the presidency we are discussing.
Maybe Netflix thinks this is more like a movie where you can just swap out a character.
Witnessing the Hollywood donors' reactions is like seeing behind the curtain, where for the donor class at least, everyone believes that Democrats are actors, bit players, who do what they are told for money.
The lies about Biden that the media can no longer hide, the high-handed way the deep pocket donors are demanding change, and the passionate concern Democrats exhibit for their own power and not much else have all been on display this past week.
And it has revealed just how presidential Trump truly is.
Joe Biden stands in sharp contrast to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is authentic in his manner, he's committed to his America First vision for the country, and stoically is willing to endure an onslaught of verbal, legal, and political attacks for his country.
After Joe Biden's unsuccessful interview with George Stephanopoulos, more Democrats began to clamor for Biden to step aside.
But Biden continues to push on in his own selfishness.
Concerning the interview debacle, Vox senior correspondent Eric Levitz summed up the opinion of most people, opining, quote, Biden appeared too frail to defeat Donald Trump and too delusional to end his campaign. By July 7th, the imaginations of influential Democrats were running wild.
Georgetown Law professor and 2020 Biden campaign advisor Rosa Brooks, along with the wealthy donor Ted Dintersmith, penned a memo outlining plans for a, quote, blitz primary to replace Joe Biden, according to the global news platform Semaphore.
First, Biden would step down as the presidential nominee in mid-July.
And he, along with Kamala Harris, would announce the new system for choosing the candidate.
Then, over the course of a few days, potential candidates would announce their desire to run.
The actual glitzy Blitz primary would be weekly forums moderated by so-called cultural icons such as Taylor Swift, Michelle Obama, Stephen Colbert, Oprah Winfrey.
Delegates would choose the candidate before the Democratic primary, scheduled for August 19th.
The language of the memo echoes the words of Winston Churchill as it refers to the Blitz as our finest hour.
Taylor Swift chatting about issues with Kamala Harris is our finest hour?
Well, heaven preserve us from such a blitzkrieg of talent raining down democracy on our hapless nation.
While no need to despair just yet, however rising the memo may be, those dreams must be put on hold for now because Monday morning Joe Biden once again announced that he will not step aside.
Also, by the way, I doubt Kamala Harris would step aside for whoever else would be running.
So first, Joe Biden called into Morning Joe and blasted those he called the, quote, elites who think they can just replace him.
How ironic that in order to sound presidential, Biden is mimicking Trump by claiming that the elite deep state is targeting him.
While no one would deny that the establishment is trying to jettison Trump's bid for the White House, it's hard to believe that anyone would think the elites have mounted attacks even remotely similar against Joe Biden.
But that's Biden's contention, so over the phone to Joe Scarborough on the air, Biden yelled, any of these guys that don't think I should run, run against me, announce for president, challenge me at the convention, talk about a dream going up in smoke.
No blitz primary, no finest hour, nobody is getting off this island.
Biden also insisted that Democrats should ignore polls reporting that he trails Trump because such polls have underestimated him before.
Hmm.
Well, still the truth remains that for 24 years, no Democrat in a presidential election has polled this poorly in July, according to Newsweek.
That includes John Kerry.
Also, the polls were wrong in 2020, but they overestimated Joe Biden's lead.
On Monday, Biden also sent a letter to congressional Democrats urging them to support him.
The New York Post described the letter as, quote, loquacious, pugnacious, and mendacious.
How strange that the derogatory language used to smear Trump is now part and parcel of the de facto description of Biden, but not because Biden, like Trump, is standing with the heartland's deplorables and fighting for a flourishing economy,
where immigration is managed responsibly, hyperinflation is not allowed to run rampant, and political dissidents from parents to protesters to pro-life grandmothers are not imprisoned, but rather because he will not willingly exit stage left.
The debate, the interview, the phone call, and now the letter.
Joe Biden seems to be intent on embodying every insulting epithet the media has thrown at Trump.
Well, much to the media's dismay, Trump appears, by contrast, to be every laudable thing Biden was supposed to be.
Trump has run the gauntlet.
He hasn't blinked once.
His debate performance was incredible.
His stalwart refusal to back down, coupled with his relentless support for the actual concerns of American voters, have made him what Joe Biden can never be.
Namely, a politician that a wide swath of the people, one that cuts across all demographic categories, actually can respect and truly appreciate.
The Biden administration, by contrast, is merely fighting to maintain whatever power it has.
Biden's letter to congressional Democrats is a nakedly self-serving power play that cynically lists what he and his party are supposed to have done for Americans.
Although he uses the word we frequently in the letter, Joe Biden's we does not include all Americans.
For Biden, we refers to Democrats only.
The party that he insists will save the nation from the bad orange man.
In his letter, Biden writes that, quote, we Democrats are protecting the freedoms of Americans, and we have a historic record of success to run on.
We're the ones lowering costs for American families.
Most troubling, he sees the half of the country that does not support him as the enemy.
Biden writes, quote, We're standing up for American democracy.
After January 6th, Trump has proven that he's unfit to ever hold the office of president.
We can never allow him anywhere near that office again.
And we never will.
What makes Joe Biden think that he and the Democrats are entitled to tell half the country that their votes don't matter?
That Trump is unfit?
Joe Biden and the Democrats won't let Trump anywhere near the office of the president.
It is not their decision to make.
And so far as they cast their vote, they have a say, but no more power resides in them than in any other voter.
By contrast, consider the inclusive and inviting language of Donald Trump's farewell address given on January 19, 2021.
He expresses humility and gratitude that his fellow Americans worked with him.
In his last speech before leaving office, he tells all Americans that for the good of the country, we must unify around our shared values and rise above the partisan rancor and forge our common destiny. He includes us all in his successes, saying, quote, together with millions of hard working patriots across this land, we built the greatest political movement in the history of our country. We also built the greatest economy in the history
of the world. It was about America first because we all wanted to make America great again. We restored the principle that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Our agenda was not about right or left. It wasn't about Republican or Democrat, but about the good of a nation.
And that means the whole nation.
Trump said that he ran for president because he, quote, knew the potential for our nation was boundless as long as we put America first.
In contrast to Biden, when Trump says our and we, he does not use them to refer exclusively to his Republican base, even though we love him.
Rather, he is referring to himself and all Americans.
Donald Trump's speech expresses a patriotic wish to unite us.
He concludes by explaining that his wish to be president is rooted in a desire to serve.
He explains, quote, America had given me so much, and I wanted to give something back.
Trump celebrates what America gave him.
He does not petulantly list all that he and his party gave Americans, and therein lies the greatest difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
By smoothing the way for Biden with their constant lies, from Russia collusion to Hunter's laptop to the insistence that videos of Biden stumbling verbally or physically were just cheap fakes, the Democrats and their media lackeys have created the mess in which they now find themselves.
Writing for American Greatness, historian Victor Davis Hanson summed up their difficult situation.
Because the Bidens do not want to give up their power, their choice is clear.
Biden's need do nothing more, Hanson writes, than, quote, bark at the public, insult their own toadish media, and deny the obvious.
They'll put the country's interests dead last and connive that Joe can scowl, scold, lie, and yell at his critics with not a care that our enemies abroad will conclude this is a golden Biden moment to do something stupid that may not come again.
Considering the threat that an obviously ailing president poses to our nation, it is no surprise that on Tuesday, congressional Democrats met to discuss what to do about Biden.
But, unfortunately, no consensus was reached.
By Tuesday evening, a total of seven congressional Democrats had called for Biden to drop out of the race, but to no avail.
For now, Joe Biden is the Democrats' presumptive candidate, and his camp has assured the nation that he will not step aside.
The man who promised to be a bridge has chosen to break that promise.
Biden is not a bridge.
He is falling down.
Biden now demands that Democrats fall on their swords if need be to protect his candidacy.
Democrats always seek to compare themselves to the greatest generation, the Americans who fought in the Second World War.
They are the allies, and anyone who opposes them must be part of the Axis powers in their mind.
So, returning to that analogy, like General Montgomery, the architect of the failed Operation Market Garden, the Biden-Harris campaign has handed the Democrats a losing strategy for the election in November.
Like Lieutenant General Frederick Browning, who assumed operational control in that failed mission.
Will the Democrats tell their leader as Browning famously did?
Sir, I think we might be going a bridge too far.
It remains to be seen if anyone in the Democrat Party has the strength to put America's interests first, or if they really are just paid extras spewing lies that someone else wrote for them.
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I am delighted to welcome our guest today, Steve Malzberg.
He's the host of the Washington Times Media Spotlight podcast, and you can also find him at SteveMTalk.
Steve, thanks so much for joining us.
It is my pleasure to be here, Danielle.
Thank you.
Well, congratulations on your new show.
I know you have a couple new episodes out there.
Where can people find that podcast?
Well, you go to washingtontimes.com slash mediaspotlight.
It's that easy, or as you alluded to, I appreciate the opportunity to get the word out because it's just a crazy media world out there.
It is crazy media world.
And speaking of crazy, there's lots of crazy news.
Of course, this is something, you know, people have been talking about the last week or so.
Basically, ever since the debate, of course, the Democrats, they've been crumbling.
They've seen Biden.
They've seen his debate performance, how awful it was.
But my question is, you know, the Democrats, they knew this for months.
They knew it for years, I think, how bad Biden is.
He's been getting worse, but They've been covering for him.
His press secretary, Corinne Jean-Bierre, she, you know, regularly covers for him.
But so many people come into contact with him, they lie for him.
Is it just that now that they realize, wow, maybe Biden can't win, and so let's kind of actually act like journalists for a second, let's question him, you know?
Even, I mean, they obviously did softball questions, even the Stephanopoulos interview was still softball questions.
I believe he went on MSNBC, and that was still the same, but it seems like some of the media are starting to criticize him.
Of course, New York Times They've been wanting Biden replaced.
Other media people are kind of like still trying to cover for him.
But it seems like they're not doing their usual, which is march in unison, only defend Biden, pretend like everything's fine.
That's what they've been telling us for months.
So do you think that this is going to lead more people to open their eyes?
And do you think they're only doing this because of Joe Biden's poll numbers dropping?
Well, I think that this is what the establishment wants.
I think we've seen Nancy Pelosi the other day going on the same morning, Joe, and announcing, and that's a show that Joe Biden watches, and announcing that, well, it's going to be up to Joe.
He has to decide and he should decide soon.
He's already said 10,000 times, I'm in.
I'm not going anywhere.
So he has decided.
So the plan with the establishment Even though Pelosi wouldn't come out and say it, Chuck Schumer all he says is, I'm with Joe.
That's all he'll answer.
I'm with Joe.
I mean, the plan has been, I think, for quite some time, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I think the plan has been, has always been, that Joe would never run again.
Either he'd have to end his term in the middle, but definitely never run again for another term.
And I think that when he was chosen as the nominee in 2020, to me, he wasn't chosen by the people.
I mean, yes, the people voted.
I'm not talking about the votes.
He got the votes because he was the only candidate left.
They had everybody drop out, if you recall.
Not because Joe was doing so great.
It was just part of some grand plan that somebody, maybe Barack Obama, was in charge of.
I don't know.
And picking Kamala Harris as the vice president After she called him a racist, basically, on stage at a debate, and reportedly in a book, according to a book, Jill Biden was furious with Kamala Harris.
Joe Biden's gonna pick Kamala Harris?
You think he did that on his own?
So to me, the plan has always been Kamala Harris would be the next president if the Democrats, you know, win.
If Joe didn't finish out his term, or if he did and then would hand it over to her and she'd be the nominee, and I think that's where they're hoping to be headed.
Yeah, it seems like the Democrats would want Kamala.
They like the idea of, you know, black woman, all of that.
They can't really pass over her because of that.
It would be against their leftist ideology, I guess.
But at the same time, Kamala's polling is so low, and she's really just been a nothing vice president.
Hasn't really kind of shored up the youth vote.
Hasn't really reached out to the far left.
But at the same time, she's not appealing to centrists.
She was supposed to be this border person.
That was supposed to be her big thing.
Of course, that totally didn't work.
She I think is actually coming to Dallas soon to speak to a Sorority or something.
But I just, I don't know.
I don't know if Kamala would have what it takes to run.
And I think the Democrats are questioning that.
Do you think Kamala or Biden would be a stronger, stronger opponent at this point?
Well, according to the latest polls, I mean, Kamala polls a point or two ahead of Biden better.
But the last time they did approval ratings, you know, she had a lower approval rating than Biden.
I think, look, she's going to go on the offensive.
At least she could, if she does debate Trump, at least she could handle a debate.
You know, she could, she could answer back.
She could call him Trump a liar and she could do all the things that the talking points tell her to do, which Biden just can't do.
So I think she'd be a stronger candidate, but she's not a border person.
She was put in charge of the border and look what happened.
Some might call a borderline.
Something or other.
I don't know.
But that laugh, and the cackle, and the word salads, and all that stuff.
I mean, she's got so little gravitas.
But in this crazy world, anything is possible.
She'll call Trump a convicted felon.
She'll say that he was sexual assault.
She'll go through the whole list in front of Trump.
And I don't know how Trump's going to handle that.
He might start burning up under his skin a little bit.
And he might blow it.
So I think their best bet at this point is Kamala.
And you're right, it can't not be Kamala if it's not Biden.
Unless Kamala all of a sudden says, Oh, I miss California.
And there was an article in some publication a few months ago that, oh, I miss my home, I miss my friends, I miss the people there.
And, oh, she's setting the stage.
But unless she says, I'm out, I'm going home, I don't want to run, I want to go back home, and they promised her maybe a spot on the Supreme Court or something, then it has to be her.
Or how do you justify it not being her because of the woman, the minority status?
You know, the chance to be the first female president.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Personally, I think it's going to still be Biden.
I think Biden does not want to step down.
He, he must be told at least by Jill Biden or his family members, his friends, that you're doing great, Joe.
And you know, you're, you're, you're, you know, you answered all the questions or whatever it is she said to him.
And so I guess Jill Biden is, is effectively president right now.
I mean, I think for a while we thought, Oh, it's Obama.
It's a Democrat, you know, Leadership, but I don't know.
I feel like Jill Biden leads him wherever he needs to go.
And Biden just is not going to go anywhere.
I mean, AOC was saying, I spoke with the president extensively.
He's going to, you know, he's our nominee.
Basically, it's done.
The matter is closed.
I mean, do you think the Democrats are going to keep discussing this issue longer than the next week?
How long does this continue?
Does this go on to their convention?
I mean, I think it definitely hurts their side that they're continuing to battle from the inside.
So honestly, by all means, they should keep fighting it out.
I hope that it continues.
You know, let your enemy keep on making mistakes and just sit on the sidelines and watch them do it.
But but how long do you think that the debate's going to go on?
And honestly, I think it may end up with Biden barring some kind of, you know, more serious medical medical tragedy.
I think it goes up to their convention or whatever they're going to do with the convention.
They're going to nominate them remotely or nominate them there or whatever they're going to do.
I think it goes right up to it, to be honest with you.
And that's all you see in the media.
It's wall-to-wall.
It's non-stop.
They're constantly counting how many congresspeople have openly called, how many are saying it behind the scenes.
It's like this mad game that the media is playing because the Democrats are playing it.
So I don't blame the media for For pursuing it.
But, you know, I just think it's going to go on as long as possible until the very end.
And Jill Biden, you know, there are those who have accused her of really elder abuse.
And, you know, it came out the other day, if it's true or not, there was a report, several reports, that she made the Marine Band write a theme for her when she comes out like at the White House and at an event.
She's in love with what she's doing.
And, you know, she's just gonna drag Joe through it as long as she can.
Unless, unless maybe, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, I don't know who else, they all, you know, knock on the door, they sit down, and they say, look, this is lunacy.
But I'll tell you what might expedite it, or might get it done, and maybe I don't want to step on your segging into it, but this is what I talked about in my first episode of Media Spotlight at the Washington Times.
The 25th Amendment.
Look at this man.
All these Democrats, all these media people that are talking about He shouldn't be running.
He can't be running.
George Clooney now, you know, and James Carville and David Axelrod, all of them.
Well, if he can't be running because he's what we saw at the debate, then how could he be—seriously, not because I'm a conservative and a Republican, which I am—how could he be president of the United States today, tomorrow, next week, and for six or seven months?
How?
How is this man capable of being president of the United States?
They should go to him, not only knock on the door and say, you're out, running, but you're out!
We're going to invoke the 25th Amendment on you.
You're out!
I mean, common sense, but the media, for the most part, does not go there.
It's just like two separate issues, but it's one issue.
Hmm.
Yeah, I feel like if it comes to the merits of it, I mean, Biden is not fit.
He cannot continue to be president according to the standards of what is needed for the job in terms of if there is an international crisis.
I think, you know, Ducey asked, what if it's after I mean, honestly, it's scary.
If you think about it in a legitimate way, no, he clearly cannot continue.
But at the same time, I mean, I don't think they're gonna hit the eject button on Biden because
It's just it's just at the point where I think a lot of them realize he is going to be their nominee and I think they need two-thirds of Congress and and all this and and I just I don't know unless they all decide all the Democrats say we actually are going to band together and kick him out but I think as of now it's only a few here and there that are willing to step out or say something some of them are still covering for him um oh yeah I think Nancy Pelosi sort of indicated yeah because it's in support him which I don't understand
Again, not that they're doing things based on race, but it is the Congressional Black Caucus, and you do have Kamala Harris there.
So, I mean, that confuses me a little, but they're wavering.
They're starting to waver, and it's going to be very, very, very interesting to see where this goes.
Yeah, it's going to be very interesting.
I also want to ask you about George Clooney.
So George Clooney had just done a fundraiser for Biden.
I think they raised over $30 million and they were all, you know, defending Biden.
And then conservatives saw the video and saw, whoa, you know, Joe Biden froze.
He was seriously showing some signs of decline, but this was before the debate.
So of course the left acted like, oh, you know, conservatives are ridiculous for pointing this out.
But now George Clooney.
Yes, yes.
But now George Clooney is saying, Biden, sorry, you have to step aside.
You just can't do it anymore.
You're too old.
So George Clooney was probably with him, right?
I mean, saw him in the room and saw this mental state, yet was willing to cover for him.
And now he's saying, no, no, no, no.
So how do you explain that?
Well, now that George Clooney has spoken, it should all be over.
I mean, that's what we were waiting for.
George Clooney.
I know.
Who really cares about these celebrities, honestly?
The media is treating it like it just came down from high above.
George Clooney.
I mean, he was with them at that fundraiser with Obama.
I forget who else was there.
I forget if Clinton was there or not.
They raised all those millions of dollars.
And then when Obama put his arm around Biden and they walked off the stage slowly, Republicans pointed that out in the media.
Oh, no, no, no.
Fake, fake.
That's fake.
Oh, no, no.
Now Clooney says the guy I saw at that fundraiser is the same guy you saw at the debate.
He's not the guy you saw in 2020.
He's not the guy I've known before.
He's the guy from the debate.
Is this going to have gravitas and influence people because it's George Clooney?
I don't know.
I'm a little skeptical of Clooney coming out because to me Clooney's wife Amal is a human rights attorney who is reportedly instrumental in getting the International Criminal Court to issue the warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu and his defense minister.
Also against the head of Hamas.
To me, there's no equating the two.
So he and his wife might have a little axe to grind here.
I don't know.
It just all sounds too convenient.
Otherwise, you know, why would he bother?
But again, the media and the left taking it so, oh, George Clooney, now it's really something.
Who cares?
Who's the next actor?
Yeah, no, he definitely isn't someone worthy of respect in that sense, but I think it just shows how shameful the left is in the sense that you were literally just with him doing this fundraiser, backing Biden, raising millions of dollars, and now you're just flipping the other side.
It's just so crazy, and I think that the Democrats are freaking out because of the polls.
The polls are showing that they're in the tank, and I don't think I think there is a clear Hail Mary of what they do.
I mean, they could try to keep pushing Biden.
That's a mess.
They could then try to switch to Kamala.
She's not the best.
They could try to go to open, you know, primary season, all these other people, but that's not going to be a good situation either.
But I think as conservatives, we can't just act like, oh, we've already won.
you know, we're good because the Democrats, we can't put anything past them. They're not going to give up.
They're going to fight tooth and nail.
They've already gone down the road of saying Trump is Hitler.
Basically, that's been their big thing, but they're going to make it like it doesn't even matter who's running.
It could be a skeleton.
I am going to vote against Trump.
And so we just have to be ready.
Well, look what Whoopi Goldberg said.
I mean, brain surgeon that she is, you know, I don't care if he's, you know, of doing stuff in his pants and he, you know, can't get up and he's in whatever, all that, I'm still voting for him.
And Joy Reid did a video which is on my last podcast, I played a little part on social media.
Just tell me who's running against the Nazi, and I'll vote for him.
You all settle it yourselves, but whoever's running against the Nazi, I'll vote for him.
That's the mindset of a lot of, you know, certainly the progressive radical leftists in the party.
I don't know if mainstream America, even Biden supporters, are that way universally.
Some are, but I think there are those who, you know, as the polls indicate, you're right, not only on a national level, but state by state in the swing states.
It's changing.
It's changing a lot.
And Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
And he's beating Biden in all these states.
The Democrat plan has just gone bonkers falling apart.
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There are these people on the left, the people you mentioned, they're the Whoopi Goldberg types, they're going to vote for the Democrat no matter what.
So they're just dug in.
And on the right, you know, we have people there, they're going to vote for Trump for sure.
And so we have to figure out how do we reach those center people?
Which brings me to Trump's platform, which I think appeals to a lot of the center.
Most of the things on the platform, I think about 70% of Americans agree with, for example.
So I think Trump is really trying to reach a lot of independents, is trying to To win them over.
But I don't think the message that the left is going to run with, which is that, hey, no matter what, Trump is evil.
I mean, to the center, if they believed that, they'd already be Democrats.
I don't think that's the message to win over people in the center.
Right.
Well, let me tell you, and this is probably a very unpopular opinion.
I've found it to be an unpopular opinion whenever I say it.
The way Trump wins the election, no matter who he's running against, The definite way he wins the election is if Nikki Haley's the vice president.
I mean, that would win him the election.
That would gather most of the people you're talking about, the undecideds, the independents, the women, blah, blah, blah.
It would solidify it.
It would be over.
Now, then I find out he didn't even invite her to the convention, which unless he's saying, well, she didn't need an invite because she's going to be the vice president.
He's playing a game, but I doubt that.
But that, that to me, Would do it.
That to me would absolutely do it.
Now, the left is talking about, you know, he's a liar, he's a convicted felon, and they keep harping on this, what is it, Project 2025?
Project 2025, which will end the Constitution, will lock up his enemies, do all these things.
I don't know what's in Project 2025.
It's not Donald Trump's.
And Donald Trump has already said, I don't have anything to do with that.
I don't support that.
I don't endorse that.
But the media lets these people say it, and they don't push back on it, and that's not good for Trump.
Because people will say, oh, let me Google that.
Really?
Is that Trump's plan?
Because the media is not going to tell the truth and say it's not Trump's plan.
Yeah, I don't feel like a lot of people will go through, like I think that that's from the Heritage Foundation, and I think there are hundreds of pages in there.
I think that Trump is succeeding in reaching the middle, though.
I really think a lot of people are saying, you know what, I'm so desensitized to the attacks against Trump, the typical, you know, he's chaos.
I think even Nikki Haley would kind of make those points, chaos follows him wherever he goes.
It's like, At this point, I think people are so desensitized to that that they just don't care anymore.
That I think that with Trump, they're probably thinking, you know what, the economy was better under Trump.
The country was safer under Trump.
I just, we can't keep living like this.
I mean, under Biden, the country is just going down.
So quick in just a matter of a couple years.
So I feel like the VP needs to be someone who doesn't ruffle too many feathers almost.
And I don't know, I think Nikki Haley would perhaps isolate too much of the right.
I don't know.
But I think someone, maybe honestly, I could see him picking Doug Burgum because not enough people hate him.
And he's kind of someone who would be liked by independents and maybe could win over some unknown voters.
I don't know.
I think the top people people are talking about are him, J.D.
Vance, Marco Rubio, some of those people.
I think J.D.
Vance is a leader and he definitely has like a thought leader type of future.
Um, I think Rubio's great.
I think people mentioned, you know, he'd be bringing Hispanic votes and so on.
Um, but I don't know if Trump's going to pick someone who's like a big personality in that sense.
Um, and so, oh, I think even with Nikki Haley, she's, she's definitely, you know, like she ran for president.
So she'd be, but more of a.
J.D.
Vance, not obviously ideological similar to him, but just more of a forthright type of role.
And I think Doug Berger might be more similar to Mike Pence's personality, but maybe supportive of Trump.
So I don't know.
I mean, it'll be interesting to see who he picks at this point.
I think the veepstakes will eventually come to an end and he'll have to announce who it is.
Well, I didn't know, first of all, I didn't know, and I like the guy, but I didn't know that Mike Pence had a personality, but thanks for... Oh, gosh.
Well, I used to like him when he was VP before that there, but... J.D.
Vance is saying Trump won't pick him because he's got a beard.
I mean, I never, I remember, is that even true?
I never heard of such a thing.
Because he doesn't like... Such a thing.
The facial hair.
Yeah, I mean, all these things, all these nonsensical things come up, but I'll tell you one thing.
Whoever the pick is, If they ever said anything negative about Donald Trump, that's all you will see in the media.
That every interview, they'll play the clips for the VP nominee.
They'll say, here's what you said, blah, blah, here's what you said, blah, blah.
And I go back to an interview that Dana Bash did on State of the Union with, I forget, somebody was, it was a Republican, Tim Scott, Tim Scott.
And Tim Scott was talking, they were talking about Kamala Harris.
He said, his own vice president At a debate, call them a racist.
And Diana Bachelet said, well, I have to put that in kind of perspective.
That was during a campaign.
That was during an election, during a debate.
You think if these comments were made, you know, during a campaign or any, they'll point that out?
No, it won't matter for the Republican.
They'll just play them no matter what the context is.
And that's the double standard that Trump, his VP, Republicans will always be up against.
Yeah, that's definitely possible.
I feel like, though, the narrative in the media right now is just so much about Biden crumbling that at a certain point, do people even care about the VP?
I mean, I hope it's someone great, and I hope that it's someone who's going to further Trump's agenda when he wins.
I just think that the contrast between Trump and Biden is so strong.
Do you think there's going to even be another debate?
Let's say they do stick with Biden.
Is the debate going to happen?
The next one that's supposed to be scheduled for, I think, September is going to take place.
I mean, Trump just challenged him to one for this week, which is now over and isn't going to happen the week.
And also a golf for a million dollars.
So, in answer to that question, I mean, on one hand, it would be a way for Biden to prove himself, but on the other hand, I don't believe, as a non-medical person, that he's capable of proving himself.
They know it.
So, no, I don't think there will be another debate.
It's just crazy.
And it's interesting that Donald Trump offered, let's play golf, I'll give you a 10-stroke lead.
because Biden bragged on stage about golf, and I'll give a million dollars if I lose to the charity of your choice.
Or maybe even if he just participates, I'll give you the million dollars for the charity of your choice.
Remember when Donald Trump asked Barack Obama for his birth certificate or college records, whatever, said I'll give five million dollars to the charity of your choice.
And he was ripped, ripped.
Not Obama for turning down a chance to give $5 million to hungry kids or some charity, but Trump was ripped for daring to offer it.
So, here we are again with Trump trying to do something through money, and he'll be the heavy in the situation.
Yeah, no, for sure.
And I just think at this point, there's so much at risk if Biden does it again, because if he were to do another debate, Biden would, I'm guessing, look worse.
I mean, honestly, I think it's clear.
I think someone went on NBC saying, It was a doctor saying he has Parkinson's.
It's obvious that he has Parkinson's.
I'm not saying he does, but I'm just saying that clearly Biden could be declining rapidly.
He could be different in November.
Who knows?
And so whether or not he could make it through another debate, I think would be pretty risky for the Democrats because if it goes worse than the last one did, I don't know where they go after that.
I mean, maybe he could do the same thing.
I guess that would be kind of the best case scenario, but obviously their polling got even worse post the debate, and so I just don't know how they roll Biden out for anything.
He says, I have crowd size, but he doesn't.
I'm with you.
It's too risky.
And on the other hand, it's the only way to possibly change minds again.
But again, it's every day now.
You know, every day he told that radio host that he was the first black vice president or whatever.
If the media would report on every one of these Mistakes, gaffes, misspeaks, whatever.
It's every day.
There's either a stare, a mumble, swallowing the words of Paul.
Like today, he gave one of those with the NATO meeting.
He gave, he started going and he said, uh, well, let me put it a different way.
You know, it's every day.
So I don't see how one debate would really make a difference unless he just rocked it.
And he can't, he can't rock it.
Oh my gosh.
Do you think that he will even be able to conduct interviews anymore?
I mean, he tried to do some of that, some of the press rounds, tried to kind of make up for the debate, trying to put a bandaid on the situation.
I don't think it's been working, but do you think he's even going to do much anymore?
Is it going to be basement Biden times 10?
I guess his last campaign, he didn't really go out much either, but this time it may be really that he just can't He can't do much.
I think after the nomination that that will be the case.
There might be a selective interview here, a selective interview there.
But leading up to the nomination, I think he still has to, you know, try to allay the fears, allay the calls for him to get out and try to be as active as possible.
So that's going to be interesting to watch as time progresses.
But, you know, now we find out that, and I'm not saying Stephanopoulos got fed the questions, I'm sure those were his own, but, you know, those two radio hosts, the one who now is not No longer at her station in Philadelphia because she accepted the White House questions, which the White House gave to her.
And another gentleman from Wisconsin, also the White House gave him the questions.
And when the station found out in Philadelphia that she took those questions, didn't get them approved by the station, didn't tell the station, they parted ways.
And good for the station who said, you know, we have, we're an independent station.
We're going to hold the politicians accountable.
And she didn't get them approved.
And, She's gone and blah blah blah.
But how many other interviews along the way, starting with the campaign in 2020, and certainly now recently in the last year or whatever, not that he's done so many.
How many of them have given him the questions?
You know, the interviews, the questions.
It's just a bad, bad, bad situation.
And if it was the other way around, again, it always comes back to the media.
I mean, yeah, the media told the story of it a little bit here, a little bit there, the mainstream media, but they should all be outraged.
You know, giving the reporters the questions, not topics, but questions, it's bad.
And then you watch Corrine Jean-Pierre up there, you mentioned her, the self-proclaimed historical figure, because she's black and a lesbian and holding this position, she is as bad as you could possibly be at what she does.
And I don't believe she cares.
In my opinion, she'll say whatever she wants.
And, you know, you don't like it too bad.
It's just, it's a bad, bad situation all the way around.
And what's worse and most dangerous, and I'll go back to this, this man is president of the United States now, forget four years from now, forget next year.
Now, Conducting NATO business.
There's a war going on.
There's a war in Israel.
There might be a bigger war in Israel.
Everything's going on here.
The board of the economy.
Everything.
And he's the president.
And he can't be the president.
25th Amendment.
We should all chant it.
Oh my goodness.
Well, I don't even know how he's functioning, honestly.
And you mentioned the questions.
I think, even with the debate, it was like they set it up in a way where it worked for him.
He picked, like, the podium.
He practiced.
He knew.
I think one of the hosts said he knew the questions.
And so, at a certain point, it's like, wow, he literally can't even do something where they tell him exactly what to do, exactly what to say, and he can't function.
It's wow.
It's just wow.
I don't even know if in American history this would be something that's ever occurred, honestly, because most people who make it to president, if you are the president, you're at least a sentient being.
Right.
Now, we have seen and heard about Let's say Ronald Reagan and problems and whatever.
But we didn't have cable and everything the way we have now.
This man is under the microscope 24-7.
Every move he makes, everything he does, it's posted, it's a video, it's talked about, it's written about.
And to see him, I've never seen any president that we've had in my lifetime.
Act like this, you know, and say such ridiculous things and have to stop and have to stare and have to do it.
The whole thing.
And again, I keep hearing about the 25th Amendment from some Republicans, from the Speaker of the House and others.
It's mumbled kind of, but they got to really come out and start talking about that this man has to go now.
He really has to go now.
How could this be like an afterthought to The next four years, it should be something that should disturb all of us now.
Yeah, it definitely disturbs me.
I just feel like I'd rather Trump run against Biden than Kamala.
And so I kind of want Biden to stay in the race.
I'm like, we, I just think that he's been exposed.
It's like the emperor has no clothes situation and we all see it.
And so then we can get Trump back.
I think Trump can compete.
Can be Kamala anyways, but I don't know.
With the last minute switcheroo thing, they can try to brand her a certain way.
Make it historic or whatever.
And I'm just like, you know what?
You guys picked Biden.
Your voters picked Biden.
Your leaders picked Biden.
Sorry.
You guys, you guys decided on Biden.
I'm with you.
I think he would beat Biden more easily than Kamala.
Uh, because, you know, they'll also turn it into a sexist, racist thing.
Anybody who says anything against Kamala, it will be because they're sexist and racist.
So they'll protect, try to protect her that way.
Oh yeah, they got a whole game plan.
Uh, and you're right.
And, and I agree.
And maybe in the long run for, for the sake of the country going forward, I certainly want him to run against Biden, but again, you know, he's president now and he doesn't know where he is and, and, and that's not good for the country now.
Not good.
Well, Steve, thanks so much for joining us.
You can find him, Steve M. Talk, and let us know where we can find your podcast.
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And I thank you very much.
It was a pleasure being here with you, Danielle.
Awesome.
Thanks, Steve.
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