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	Welcome back to the Dinesh D'Souza Show.
	I'm Kyle Serafin, guest hosting for The Last Day on this Friday.
	I hope you had a wonderful Fourth of July.
	I hope that you celebrated America's birthday, her 248th, in style with explosions and with the cheers of children.
	Today we're going to get a little bit serious, and we're going to be talking about something that involves the hard work in front of us.
	I've brought you, I hope, a lot of hope about what is in front of us.
	About the way that the arc is moving towards justice and towards a better outcome Especially in the last couple weeks a lot of reasons to be hopeful the hard work is going to be addressing some really difficult questions one of those questions is Are we looking at treason have we been sold out by our own government and are the things they're doing intentional?
	My guest is Ryan Mata He runs a podcast, and he also is the former producer of my podcast, a guy who found a passion with what is going on at the American border.
	We hear a lot about open borders.
	The question is, what is going on?
	Why is it going on?
	And is it, in fact, treason?
	He's got some pretty passionate takes on why that is.
	I hope you'll stick around again for this full interview.
	The times are crazy and a time of confusion, division, and lies.
	We need a brave voice of reason, understanding, and truth.
	This is the Dinesh D'Souza podcast.
	All right, folks, my guest today is Ryan Matta.
	Now, some of the people that are on this program, you've heard their name before, they've got some sort of national prominence.
	Ryan runs a podcast on a daily basis with LFA TV over on Rumble.
	He's a regular guy, like me.
	We shop at regular grocery stores.
	We put our pants on one leg at a time.
	We've had regular jobs.
	We've out there and waited tables.
	We've worked in factories.
	And so I wanted to tell the story from the perspective of a regular guy who has seen what is going on in the world and then ended up sleeping on the ground with junkies to make a documentary, seeing some of the worst that America has to offer.
	Ryan, thanks so much for joining me today.
	It's an honor to be here, brother.
	Thanks for having me.
	So we're going to talk about this.
	Uh, let's talk a little bit about your background, who you are as a person, um, sort of that, like I said, that, that regular guy attitude that you and I bring to this space.
	And, uh, and then we're gonna get into why in the world you were sleeping on the ground in Philly or in Los Angeles and trying to, uh, trying to avoid needles on the ground.
	Oh man, it's a long story, but we'll take it back.
	You know, when I was younger, I was riding my Harley to my son's mom's house.
	She was pregnant, and I rode it there, and I felt my son kicking her stomach for the first time.
	And that was the last night I drove my Harley.
	I knew I couldn't I couldn't risk leaving my son without a father like I grew up.
	So that was the day I drove that Harley home.
	I put it up for sale.
	I went and bought a four-door car so I could put a car seat in the back of it like a smart parent would.
	And then from there, I started at a factory, man.
	I was bartending, like you said, and just being young and dumb.
	No real direction in life.
	And then when you have a son, you know, or your child's on its way, it completely changes your perspective of reality.
	So I went and I took a job at $10 an hour.
	It was a temporary job, so it was a major pay cut from bartending.
	Now you're making $300 to $400 a night bartending.
	I went to $10 an hour, but I knew that they had insurance.
	I knew that they had health care.
	And I knew that they would pay for my school if I stuck it out and worked there.
	So when I started there as a contract, it was like $10 an hour.
	I was coming in with all the people that were getting bussed in from Flint and Detroit.
	People were lazy.
	They had no work ethic.
	And the only rule was when the plant line shuts down, when you stop making parts, don't stand around.
	So the second that line would shut down, a part would get double stamped, something would break, they'd have to call in press maintenance or electricians or whatever it was to fix the problem.
	All the people around me were just standing around.
	So I'd go and grab like a Windex bottle and a rag and I'd be on my hands and knees on the floor just polishing the floor that's getting stepped on in dirt and grease just so that if a manager walked by, everybody else is standing around and I'm the guy over here that's polishing the floor.
	It didn't take more than a couple weeks before, you know, everybody caught on.
	They seen that I was a hard worker and then that excelled me up.
	I got hired in after 90 days.
	Then once you get hired in, they'll pay for your school.
	So then I took that opportunity.
	I went and worked overtime and went to school and I got paid to go to the school and got paid for my, or most of my school had paid.
	I think they paid like 80% or something.
	And then from there it was, I started to realize that no matter how much more money I made, I wasn't getting ahead in life.
	I didn't understand how corrupt the money was at that point.
	But I had a feeling of like, I just kept making more money.
	And even though I was getting more raises, more raises, more raises, my standard of living wasn't changing.
	Now granted, I had got a house, it changed a little bit, but it wasn't drastically like I had this vision in my head when I was 18.
	And if I would have went to school, I would have went to college, I would have got a good job.
	I would have had this life that, you know, that I most only dream of.
	And that really wasn't the case.
	So, from there, I worked my way up, and then watching YouTube videos and podcasts, and you hear, you know, those guys out there, oh, you know, take my digital course, make $40K, you know, sell kittens on the sidewalk, make $40K.
	And I'm like, alright, I want to make $40K a week, yeah, I want to do that.
	So, you know, probably after 10 or 15, I stumbled across a guy who did Amazon digital courses, and his digital courses were about how to start a business on Amazon.
	And that was one of the things, you want to find a niche, find your niche, find your niche.
	So I started, I was decent at designing clothes.
	I was actually designing clothes with hidden pockets in them.
	And yeah, and then, and then...
	We're not going to discuss what those hidden pockets are for, I don't think.
	Nah, nah, nah.
	Those are for festivals.
	So, yeah, when you go into a festival, they make you throw out your chapstick, they make you throw out your cigarettes if they're open, they make you throw out your lighters.
	So when girls and guys want to go into these festivals, you don't want to throw out your pack of cigarettes, you don't want to throw out your chapstick and all your stuff.
	So you can, obviously, there are four other things as well, but you put everything in the pockets.
	But that was the main selling point for them.
	Yeah, I started a business because I wanted to give my son a better life.
	That was the big moral of the story.
	I was doing whatever I could to give my son the best life possible.
	And then that led me into starting my own clothing line.
	I became the second largest growing EDM clothing line on Amazon.
	We peaked at about in 2020 was the first time that I was able to get my first check, right?
	We did $125,000 that month in sales, and it was the first time that I had $300,000 in all, in three different countries, in Amazon warehouses, all across the United States, stocked up, $300K, and I got my first check.
	And then the next month, that check was taken away.
	I went from doing $125,000 a month in sales to negative $5,000.
	That was when COVID hit.
	So that shut the business down.
	Now in the process of building and scaling that business, I met my girlfriend.
	She was a famous Instagram model.
	And I was horrible at photography at first.
	So it was cool because she was super pretty.
	So all the like famous photographers wanted to shoot with her just to have this pretty girl and do like special effects where we put glitter in her hair and she'd flick her hair back and they'd be shooting at like 240 frames per second.
	Really cool like special effects photo shoots.
	But what they would do is they would bring me on set and train me one-on-one for free in exchange for her shooting with them for free.
	So I developed this passion, which I guess I always had, because back when I got sponsored in skateboarding and snowboarding when I was 12, I was always out there with my little camcorder filming videos and editing videos.
	Back then, the softwares were lame.
	You could just cut and splice clips.
	You could do a little bit of cool things.
	So I always had a passion for videography and photography.
	And when I met my girlfriend, I guess I redeveloped that passion.
	And then from there, it was just nonstop creating content until we're here.
	There's a lot more in there, but I know we're tight on time.
	Well, I think the big story here is that There was an American dream that we were sold when we were younger.
	I've got a couple more years on you, but I was sold the same thing.
	You go to college, you're going to be successful.
	You go do this thing or you work hard, you go get a job.
	You know, if you show up and you do the right thing, you do right by those in your family, your, you know, your, your kids, uh, wife or girlfriend, that you take care of them.
	And we've been talking this week about the values and when America went off the rails.
	And it seems like more and more people were kind of awakened and maybe 2020 was a big time for it when that sort of bargain was obviously corrupt.
	And so people saw the government was willing to just write you a check to stay home.
	Those people that weren't polishing the floor like you were in the factory, those people got the same check that you could have if they shut down your business, and they didn't have to ask anything for it.
	So it's interesting, and I think it's interesting because regular people saw it for the first time.
	Maybe the elites and the people that were in power always knew this, maybe.
	But you and I got to see this.
	I saw it in my agency and I'm working at a government agency.
	You see it as you're out there trying to run a business, doing that kind of American dream where you're trying to get financial independence.
	How did that lead, you know, obviously the passion of being able to do videography.
	The one thing that people will just hear, and I will personally attest to this, is you are constantly pushing things forward.
	You are always moving and trying to improve, including that sort of background that they're seeing right now.
	That's recent in the last six months.
	You're just a worker on this stuff.
	So how did that end up with you deciding like, hey, I need to go and expose something.
	Where did the passion come in specifically about this sort of documentary that you guys are making?
	Oh man, so that's a great question.
	It started in 2020.
	I had started creating content, but I was scaling my girlfriend's pages at the time, right?
	We were really big into scaling social media and she taught me everything I basically know about social media algorithms.
	So I had a big passion for it.
	I had an understanding of it.
	And then when COVID hit and things got a little rocky in our relationship, her dad passed away, her brother passed away.
	She was talking about moving down to live with her sister's only relative that's still alive.
	And I understood that, you know, that was important to her and she wanted to go.
	In the process, I started making my own videos and I started making my own content and then that led me into crypto.
	I was back in 2016 during the, you know, find your niche phases, right?
	There was a phase in there where YouTube was it, right?
	So I created a few videos, but I didn't realize that we had a channel with like no subscribers getting a thousand views and the video was good, right?
	But I didn't know that back in the day.
	I just thought I didn't know anything about it.
	But I had been making crypto videos at the time.
	I was teaching people how to mine Ethereum when it was $2.64.
	Anybody that's watching, you know, Ethereum was like $4,900, right?
	And I mined thousands of coins.
	So from that point, I got good at videography.
	And then I had scaled my YouTube channel up, and in the process of going really hard into crypto and learning about crypto, I learned how corrupt money was.
	Right?
	But I still wasn't focusing on legacy finance.
	I was just mainly focusing on crypto.
	And I went all in on crypto.
	And then I hit a point where I wasn't making, I wasn't losing money, but I wasn't making the, you know, millions that I seen all these other YouTubers and all these other guys make.
	Now, granted, most are fake, but Quite a few of them I know personally that were making really, really insane gains.
	Like, throw a thousand dollars into this project and next thing you know you got five or ten million.
	Like, really exponential, insane gains in the crypto space.
	So, in the process of doing that, I started a crypto series called Crypto Exposed.
	And that's where I started to go through the blockchain, because in crypto, everything's on a blockchain.
	Every transaction's recorded, you can see everything.
	I might not know your name, but if you showed me your address on a live stream, And I know your crypto wallet address.
	I can now grab that address and I can go use it and cross-reference the blockchain and see every transaction that you've ever done.
	That led me to the main top players in the crypto space, like the top, top crypto influencers, were promoting crypto products, getting paid to promote them.
	And as they're promoting them, their wallet is selling the tokens during their live stream.
	So I have the timestamp from your live stream, I have the timestamp from the blockchain, and it's very easy for me to show that you were promoting this coin, telling all your millions of subscribers to buy it, while at the same time your team was selling it in the background.
	So that led me down that rabbit hole.
	And in the process of doing that, I exposed BitBoy Crypto.
	And then he sued me for about $5,000.
	Well, he sued me, and then it cost me about $5,000 in attorney fees to basically get rid of that cease and desist.
	I didn't know any better.
	I'm sure I could have did for a lot cheaper, but at the time, yeah.
	What's interesting to me about that is is that's the basis of being an investigator is that you see a problem.
	And then you actually were talking about finding the way to determine whether somebody was being honest or fraudulent.
	And there's not a ton of places where you can actually see that in real time.
	And it turns out that crypto is probably one of those few places where that's the advantage or maybe the disadvantage for them of crypto is that it's all public.
	And these people were playing kind of cavalier with the rules.
	So you're doing investigative what we would call journalism is that I mean, that's that's essentially what these were.
	And that actually got a pretty big following because people like hearing about the truth.
	I think that may have been one of the things where when you realize that people care about the truth, it kind of changes.
	It changes the game for the way that you present things.
	Man, you couldn't have said it any better, Kyle.
	That's exactly what happened.
	Out of all the crypto videos I made, the Crypto Exposed series were instantly going viral.
	I was getting maybe $2,000, $4,000, $5,000 on a video and I went to getting $20,000 almost instantly with no signs of slowing down.
	Those things were going crazy viral.
	And you're right, people loved it, and they loved the truth, and that's what I was trying to expose.
	And I made the mistake then, and I want to give your audience the warning, and I've told you this before, right?
	When you go to take a shot at somebody's idol, don't miss, right?
	These people that watch these YouTubers and watch these celebrities, these conservative journalists, They build a relationship with them online and they have this persona and this idea that this person is a good person and they're on their side and they would never screw them over or do anything wrong.
	So if you're going to take a shot at them, don't miss because if you don't miss it, what happened was more people got mad at me saying that I was trying to crash the price of that coin so I could profit from shorting it or whatever.
	When in reality, it had nothing to do with it.
	I mean, the guy was robbing you guys blind, but I was the one, you know, I'm the messenger.
	So I got killed and I learned a very valuable lesson that day that you're going to take a shot at some of these famous people, you know, don't miss.
	That's kind of a hard thing for a lot of people to do because In 2020, which is kind of that time when you had to start pivoting gears, there was this undermining of institutions.
	And so we lost faith in government, we lost faith in the medical industry, pharmaceutical industry, finance, law enforcement.
	I mean, the list goes on and on of the things.
	Even the churches were sort of degrading themselves and sort of bowing at the altar of COVID.
	And as all of those sort of changes happened, People had two choices, and I think you actually chose the third choice, which is why I find you such an interesting guy.
	Some people decided, question everything.
	I'm in that camp, the skeptics.
	We just don't, we don't take anything on faith, value, whatever you say, I'm going to punch a hole in it because that's what I do, because I don't trust anybody.
	And that's a good place for an investigator.
	And then the second thing is, is people said, whatever I want to believe is what I'm going to believe.
	Now I just make my own as I go.
	And if it wants to be, whether it be a conservative influencer type, or whether it be, you know, a mainstream media figure or anything else, whatever I choose to believe is good.
	And you kind of went down the middle between because you kind of adopt from both of those.
	You have some hard beliefs of things that you actually believe are pretty faithful.
	And for folks who don't know, Ryan and I always have this joke internally about everything is the CIA.
	It turns out it's correct, except when it's not the CIA.
	So it's a good little thing to play with.
	But you also have a lot of that skepticism.
	And you actually do have a lot of this sort of investigative mentality, whether it be about crypto or anything else.
	And something tweaked a passion that I'm curious because I know this led to you sleeping on the streets and trying to share truth that is very uncomfortable for most Americans and is not everybody's daily reality.
	So how do you how do you kind of step into the space of this is what's really getting me revved up especially in the light of like your kid is going to inherit this country one day too?
	You know it's an interesting story because I wasn't big into politics.
	I was never a trumper.
	I would have crypto live streams and people would start talking about Biden or Trump and I would literally command, I would order them to stop.
	If they didn't stop, I would either ban them or I would shut down my live stream because I used to do long streams.
	So if it was three or four hours, people start going off the rails.
	I'm just like, screw it, I'm done.
	So that's how anti-politics I was and now I'm this big Trump guy, right?
	It was the FTX collapse.
	So at the time, during the FTX collapse, I personally made $17,000 shorting the coin.
	And my entire audience did.
	I mean, we had hundreds of people watching those streams.
	And for like two weeks, we were talking about FTX collapse and XDS collapsing and kept getting worse and worse and worse.
	And all the writing was on the walls.
	So then when the when the exchange finally collapsed, I was able to step back and go, wow.
	Now by this time, I had actually made friends with the guy who sued me, BitBoy.
	He's this mega, he's got 1.5 or 1.7 million followers on YouTube, massive audience.
	So when this went down, he was actually one of the ones who almost like stepped down to our side, seeing the writing on the walls and started to expose these guys.
	And then when he started exposing them, he started to get the attention that I was getting, like those views, and you know when you're a YouTuber and a creator, and you start putting out certain types of content, it starts going, you're like, okay, I only got a couple weeks, I'm gonna double down on this, I'm gonna go hard on it.
	So he did.
	So he ended up flying to the Bahamas.
	So while CNN and MSNBC are down in the Bahamas telling us that Sam Bankman and Freed's just a kid, BitBoy's over here sitting down with the, I don't know if they call it their president, this guy ran for like whatever the highest office in the Bahamas is, and BitBoy was sitting down, he lost.
	But he was telling BitBoy this story about how Sam Bankman Freed was about to get carbon credits.
	The World Economic Forum, whatever elite fashion, was going to distribute these carbon credits.
	Each country was going to get a certain amount of carbon credits.
	Well, because the Bahamas doesn't produce and they don't have factories and all the crazy stuff like that, they don't need them.
	So then they can then lease them or sell them.
	And they were trying to create the derivatives in the first market for carbon credits and Sam Bankman Freed was going to run it.
	So people don't know this story.
	Very, very few people actually understand what was actually at play there and how if Sam Bankman Freed would have got that $8 billion, he would have had a backstop of $8 billion.
	The amount of Bitcoin that he could have sold off, right?
	Because he could have sold carbon credits, took that money to another exchange, bought or bought it over on the open market off the miners and then just continued to sell and sell and sell and just drive price down, drive price down.
	So that was the idea, in my personal opinion.
	Sam Minkman freed this dude that was having polyorgies with his entire staff and didn't have an accountant, doesn't run a $32 billion business without being protected by our government, in my personal opinion.
	Now, obviously, we'll probably never figure that one out, but that was my thought.
	And just watching how the truth From BitBoy, which was actually Boots on the Ground, and then watching Tucker, and Fox News called this guy Mini Madoff, and everybody on Fox News, every reporter was just roasted and enlightened, Sam Baikman freed up, and then you go over and you watch CNN and MSNBC, and Andrew Forskin, or whatever his name is, that guy was telling us that he's just a kid, and he's bringing him on, and interviewing him in front of this massive audience, and just softball question after softball question.
	So that was when, you know, with that movie, like the 1980s or 90s movie, put on my glasses and you can see all the bad guys.
	I was that guy, right?
	I had put those glasses on.
	I was just like, oh my gosh.
	So that exact, I remember that exact moment because I instantly go, You know what?
	I wonder what Trump was like.
	You know, I've heard some of his speeches, but I didn't pay much attention.
	I voted to him, but it was because my girlfriend dragged me to the polls to vote for him.
	And, uh, she's Instagram model.
	So she wanted a sticker.
	We went and voted for Trump because my girlfriend wanted a sticker that says I voted.
	So she could take a selfie with it on.
	So literally that's why my first time going and voting.
	And, um, And I went to go play the ad on YouTube.
	I went to go play his YouTube best President Trump speech.
	And it came up his World Economic Forum speech from 2020.
	If you've never heard it, I strongly suggest listening to it.
	It's an amazing speech.
	And he gives the big middle finger to the World Economic Forum in real time live.
	And then now look where he's at.
	I think they got the last laugh as of now.
	But when I went to click that video, up prompt a 60 second ad that I could not skip.
	That was Hillary Clinton.
	Going, not this guy, not again, January 6th, insurrection, Americans died.
	You know, it was like this horrible, like Hillary Clinton voice screechy for one minute telling me everything that Donald Trump did wrong and why Donald Trump is evil.
	And I just thought to myself, I go, I'm trying to watch a video of a former president.
	What most are saying is the greatest president in US history.
	And in order to watch that man speak, I'm being fed a one-minute ad about what a horrible guy that guy is?
	That just, I was just like, the odds of that ad being on that video at that time, it just didn't make sense.
	It felt like it was purposely put there, strategically placed there by somebody who wants me to not like Trump.
	And then once you get, I guess, you know, you just get that taste of truth and you see something's not there and you want to learn more about it, you just start digging.
	So that's when I started digging into Trump's accomplishments during his administration.
	And then you start to learn about what that man did, which is most important to everybody in this country, is child trafficking and sex trafficking of women, right?
	That man has done more to save children and women than any other president.
	I would go as far as saying that of every single president combined, President Trump has saved more children's lives and more females from being sold off into sex trafficking than every other president combined.
	Whether you love or hate the guy, that should be the most important thing on your mind, that there are Right now, and we can get into this too, Kyle, and I don't even know if I can say it on your podcast, but right now, the first 85,000 children that came over by 2022 under the Biden administration, the first 85,000 are lost.
	Our government openly admitted in congressional testimony that they have no idea where these children are.
	We had congressional hearings about it.
	That was back in like early 2023.
	It's now 2024.
	And our government's allowed the Biden administration to take in another 353,753 children into this country, totaling 438,753,000 children have came across that border, 353,000 after they lost the first 85,000.
	children into this country, totaling 438,753.
	Thousand children have came across that border, 353,000 after they lost the first 85,000.
	So, you know, that was the story we first heard about on your show, Kyle.
	We were filming that interview with Carlos Arleano and you brought this random dude in.
	He looks a little scruffy and I was just like, man, like, I didn't expect that guy's story to be what it was.
	And neither of us thought that it was going to be very, we were like, well, I don't even know if this is going to be very good.
	Now, folks, you probably just heard a change in the tenor of the way that Ryan's talking because it's become a passion of yours.
	You have gotten involved with whistleblowers from DHS.
	You have spent significant amount of time and money going down to the border, being there on your own, being there as part of rallies.
	This has become sort of like a crusade in some ways for you.
	Would that be accurate?
	Yes, sir, Kyle.
	Okay, better, my friend.
	So we're going to talk about the crusade and then how that leads to you being on the ground.
	I'm going to get to this because I want to know.
	I haven't actually even heard all the details of you sleeping on the ground in Skid Row or going out to Philadelphia and seeing some of the wild stuff out there trolling around in Detroit.
	So we're going to do that in just a second.
	First, folks, we're going to have a quick message and then we're going to get back here with Ryan.
	So stick around.
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	We are back with Ryan Matta.
	He's a new documentary film that's gonna be coming out very shortly.
	He has a podcast on LFATV over on Rumble.
	If you're watching this on Rumble, make sure you guys are following over there.
	And we're talking about when a personal passion, when an interest in the truth becomes a crusade.
	We were just talking about the lost children of the Biden administration.
	Some of these numbers may be familiar with you.
	Some of these are probably gonna be a little bit shocking.
	85,000 children have been admitted to be lost by our federal government.
	That means that they were taken into federal custody And then the government doesn't know where they went.
	They delivered them to somebody and they're gone.
	You've just mentioned that there are more totaling upwards of 400,000.
	Let's talk about the personal thoughts that you had on that and then what are the actions that you kind of went along with once you realize that this is a real problem?
	Yeah, we can start there with the crusade, Kyle.
	And I think it was actually, honestly, the day I met you, the day I had brought you on my podcast for that interview, and I was sitting there with an FBI agent.
	And at the time, I had the highest, the most respect for the FBI.
	I thought you guys were like superheroes out there.
	And I was sitting here with a superhero on my show, and you were open with me, and you were giving me honest information, and I built a relationship and a connection with you.
	And then, I think it was the next day, that same day, I think I offered.
	At the time, I was still monetized on YouTube.
	I had three YouTube channels.
	I was doing about 30 million views every 30 days on YouTube, and then, you know, 5 or 10 million on Instagram and all these other platforms.
	And I remember sending you a text saying, I'll shut all this down right now to produce your podcast.
	I just knew that you had a gift that I didn't have.
	And the mission was to take down this government, right?
	That was the crusade, was expose how corrupt this government is.
	And I thought that you could do it so much better than I could, right?
	If we could just pump out as much content.
	From there, I ended up was also talking to Laura Loomer.
	I was just getting into the political stuff.
	I had been contacted by LFATV to come down and film for them at CPAC.
	So at the time I had Purchased a I spent like five grand to rent a really nice air and B&B I was gonna fly down to Florida and I was gonna sit there and spend About four or five days with Laura and film a mini docu-series on her book, but it wasn't like a documentary It was just about her story.
	We're gonna do it in chapters.
	She had a really interesting story and I was also going down to film a music video for 4G auto blow that was the people's reverend if you guys want to see it, it's over on YouTube and And he was also on he was in the police state.
	He did the final trailer theme there.
	So definitely a tie in on that.
	Laura's story is mostly I feel like interesting just because of the amount of censorship that she experienced, which was at the hands not just of these big tech companies, but also federal government got involved, which we know because of Twitter files and some of the other stuff.
	So this is a big attack on people.
	Who just have an alternative look either at the same facts or they have novel facts that are inconvenient, what we call malinformation in the government space, which is a really kind of silly and gross term.
	In any case, carry on.
	So you've met these people, you're kind of getting plugged into this space there, and obviously that's a long ways from being on a factory floor with a bottle of Windex.
	Very much, very much.
	You know, that it was, it was that point that I, it was just by the grace of God, right?
	Divine intervention.
	And I'm a huge believer in God.
	You know, sometimes it's the thing you wanted the most that never happened was the greatest thing that never happened.
	Right?
	And it's like, it's divine intervention.
	So randomly, Heather, I had met Heather Mullen the same way I had met you through at a Twitter space.
	Actually, I met you in Heather Mullen's Twitter spaces or phenoms or one of the crazy ones.
	But so, um, I had, how do I want to say this?
	I had went on a journey just to meet people and network, right?
	And then I met Heather.
	Heather, I was like, oh, have you ever been to CPAC?
	And I'm like, no, never been.
	She's like, oh, it's the biggest political thing.
	It's like the place to be.
	Everybody's going to be there.
	Like, you should come with me.
	So I was like, okay, yeah, I'll come.
	And then in the process of sending her a few videos I edited, she's like, oh my gosh, you should contact LFA and see if you can do some stuff for them.
	So she put me in contact with Germany and Germany's like, yeah, you know, I'll pay for your hotel.
	If you want to come and be like our man on the street videographer, go around with Heather and you guys can just do man on the street interviews.
	I was like, oh, perfect, man.
	It's so easy.
	I was going to go there anyways.
	I wanted to go.
	You guys are going to pay me to go.
	By the grace of God, one of the girls that was supposed to do the 4 p.m.
	show, she didn't just call into work.
	I mean, he called off to an event after somebody bought plane tickets and everything.
	So Jeremy was pretty upset about it.
	So I did my show at 4 p.m.
	I went and watched the Trump speech, I think at like 6 to 7 p.m.
	At 6.49, I got an email.
	I saw my email come across my screen and it was like an alert from YouTube telling me that they had demonetized my channel.
	So I instantly opened my phone and I started deleting videos, right?
	Because I'd seen that I was getting hit with copyright strikes.
	I was getting in trouble.
	So I was like, oh, I don't know.
	It was in my old live streams.
	I'm just going to delete them all.
	So the speech ended at 7.
	By 7.15, Jeremy had offered me a job on LFATV.
	I wasn't even demonetized on YouTube for more than Maybe 30 minutes before I had already had a next source of income, which was critically important at this point in my life.
	Not that I didn't have money saved up in Bitcoin and crypto and other things, but I really try not to touch that.
	So, uh, yeah.
	And that's.
	And one of the things that's really interesting, cause we just talked to Ron Coleman on Wednesday.
	So we're talking about God's hand in the world, being able to see this sort of thing.
	Um, in the Christian world, we call it providence.
	This is the actual like exposure.
	And, and this is the, this is the white pill that I continue to see it.
	This is my third episode talking about it here on Dinesh's show.
	I think that things are swinging in a way, and for those of you who have not experienced these moments where everything should have gone wrong, and they all went off the rails, but you're still standing, and you're still not just standing, but you're thriving, and or you're in the fight.
	And I've compared it, and I think you've probably heard me say this before, but a lot of times it feels like you're holding a pocket knife, and you're going to fight Godzilla, but you're going to make him bleed.
	And so these are those moments where you know you're not well-suited for the place, at least not by your background, maybe not by what your training was, maybe not by your own expectations.
	You just never wanted it.
	It didn't appear to be something that you were being called to do, and yet you're thrust into it.
	And so it doesn't matter whether you're a guy who used to be working for the FBI, or a guy who used to be a local cop, or used to be a guy who was working on a Ford factory plant.
	If you're called in to step into the space of truth and push that forward, And the answer's gotta be yes.
	And then the ride gets really wild.
	Wild, man.
	And you're in the wild ride right now.
	Let's talk about some of the things you've done as you've kind of, you know, you got offered that position, so you do this daily podcast now.
	But that led you to a bunch of different people, some of whom have dragged you down to the border in Texas, which is a long ways from home for you.
	And then somehow you ended up deciding that you were gonna expose something even deeper and uglier about what's going on in this country.
	So let's kind of talk that through, if you will.
	So again, divine intervention, Kyle.
	How many people do you say send you random links to videos they post, their stuff, I mean, on a daily basis?
	Hundreds, yeah.
	Right.
	So even when I send you, I'm sure you don't watch all the videos I send you.
	I probably don't watch all the ones that you send me.
	So George Hill sends me a link.
	He's like, I just did an interview.
	My first interview, check it out.
	And I thought it was George actually was working with you guys to produce his own podcast.
	I thought he was going to be the next Suspendable to start his own show.
	And then just for background, George Hill is a former FBI supervisory intelligence analyst.
	He was a whistleblower in front of Congress, spoke to Jim Jordan's committee, and gave at least video testimony to the weaponization.
	So George Hill is a guy that kind of runs in my circle, but not necessarily a household name at this point, per se.
	So he sends a video over to you.
	Sorry, I just want to make sure people know who we're talking about.
	No, great.
	No, very good.
	And he sends that video over, and I happen to open it.
	And then it was him on somebody else's podcast, but he was one of the main guests, I would say.
	He was going to be interviewing and asking questions to the guests, and the guest was J.J.
	Carroll.
	So just by random chance, I opened that one link, and I actually spent long enough to watch it to where it got interesting.
	The gentleman's name was J.J.
	Carroll.
	So I've been to the border countless times.
	You know, I come back there and I'm like, the country's burning to hell.
	You know, I'm all flying off the rails with crazy stuff that I'm saying over on Twitter.
	If you guys want to get time, follow me over on Twitter at Ryan Madden Media.
	Definitely.
	I just thought it was treason.
	I went down to that border and I watched what was happening to the women and children down there.
	I watched a girl that was probably 25 to 30 carrying a six month old infant.
	That just received a text message from our government saying, yes, your asylum claim is good.
	Come to America.
	And then she's being corralled to a point in the Rio Grande River where she has to walk across this moving body of water just to hit a shoreline that's covered with 18 rows of razor wire that she now has to crawl through to finally get here.
	And as soon as she steps through that last inch of razor wire, she's The migrant dream, we'll call it, the illegal immigrant dream, whatever you want to call it, where these people are getting universal basic income, insurance, cell phones, food, housing, five-star hotels.
	But I saw what was being done to the women at the border.
	I know what has been done to them to get to that point.
	I know that they've just traveled thousands of miles through literal hell to get to that point.
	I couldn't picture, there was no scenario in my head that I could come up with a logical decision that anybody who loves this country, loves humanity, loves America, would stand by while that's happening to their state, while that's happening to humans.
	They weren't even Americans, but they're humans, right?
	A lot of these people are good people.
	I don't agree with the fact that they're coming here, but they've been sold a fake bill of goods.
	There's marketing and advertising to these people.
	They think they're coming over here and getting the American dream, literally into them.
	Yeah, and we're talking about the CBP One app.
	This is the app that we may have heard about that Biden's administration pushed out, allowing people to basically pre-book their asylum claim with an asylum officer.
	But they still have to go through, as you said, 18 layers of razor wire and walk across the Rio Grande.
	With a six-month-old infant, there's video of this stuff.
	This is not just stuff that you're just saying, and there's no documentation.
	You've videoed all this stuff going down around the border.
	You guys can see it on Ryan's Twitter feed.
	And it's actually really jarring and shocking.
	He's got a drone footage that's showing it.
	You see just human beings who have given up everything to come here.
	And as Christians, we should be compassionate towards them.
	I'm compassionate towards people.
	But that lie is horrific.
	And then the second thing, and I think I've shared this with you just from my background, but once they get here, they are trading what they think is that American dream you just talked about for an American nightmare where they are going to be extorted by people that are operating illegally.
	They're going to be handed off maybe to either traffickers or labor traffickers, sex or labor traffickers, doing horrific things to them.
	And they have no access to law enforcement and they don't speak our language and they don't know our customs.
	And now they're trapped in a place that they don't even understand after that horrific journey.
	There's an incredibly left wing argument to be made from the bleeding heart side of the left, you know, the political left, that this shouldn't be happening.
	And yet it keeps happening.
	And so you guys decided to document this and tell the people a little bit about who JJ is just so they get a background on why this guy is so significant in the in your formation.
	So J.J.
	is a retired Border Patrol agent.
	He spent 24 years in Border Patrol.
	He was under, I think he started under Clinton, then it was Obama, then it was under, I think it was Bush, no, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and then Trump, right?
	So this guy had spent a lot of time, and he was the very first person who was saying it how I was saying it.
	Not exactly how I was saying it, but in a more professional, articulate way, he was articulating that our government is committing treason, that this was planned, That this is a very well-coordinated attack on America, and the people that are doing it hate our country.
	And he used the example of when you take off the glasses of the people running this country love America, and they want to do what's best for us and what's best for Americans, and you put on the glasses of, I hate America, and I don't care about any of my citizens, they can pound sand.
	Everything starts to make sense.
	When I heard that, I was like, this is my guy, right?
	Just like I reached out to you almost immediately after I got his number from George, sent him a text message and just said, hey, if you're ever interested in going to the border, I'd go down there with you.
	I'll be your professional videographer for free.
	I'll give you copies to all the raw footage.
	You can distribute it how you want.
	Maybe if you could get us onto a helicopter, because that's one of the things I've been dying to do is just get some footage of actually being in one of the Border Patrol helicopters and cruising around the border.
	And then I just You know, hail Mary out there and say, hey, if you ever want to make a documentary, let me know, I'd be interested.
	And he goes, what are you doing in 30 minutes?
	And he calls me up, he said, what do you have in mind?
	And I'm like, and I just, I just pitched him this idea that I had just maybe had five minutes to think about in my head.
	And he said, tell me more.
	So we started mapping, we opened up monday.com.
	Colin knows what Monday is, right?
	We started mapping out, okay, if we go, where are we going to go?
	Where are we going to see?
	How are we going to capture the footage?
	How are we going to stay?
	How are we going to fund it?
	And that was the biggest part was the funding part.
	So I thought for sure between Redacted or LFA that I could get a sponsor for about $30,000.
	I was willing to cover anything past $30,000.
	I thought $30,000 would be a fair place to start and that could get us enough going and then I could use crypto because my editors work for crypto so I could pay my editor.
	So that's where the majority of the documentary funding comes from, right?
	Is the actual edits of it.
	Yeah, from there we just, it just, J.J.
	says it like this, he goes, anytime you want to do something big like this, there's always a roadblock.
	There's always something that comes up, there's always a barrier, an obstacle that you have to step over.
	He goes, it's like God put this path out in front of us.
	Because there's been no hiccups.
	There's been no... We've traveled on, what, probably 15 flights now.
	No missed flights.
	No missed flights going to location, right?
	A few have been canceled coming home, but anytime it was important, we had something to film, something to do.
	Flights getting missed.
	JJ's flight got scheduled an hour early, and then he was able to get out on another airline same time, landing at the same time.
	It's like God has been blessing us.
	So that's who JJ is, and that's how this journey started.
	Alright, where are you guys filming, and what is the story that you're telling?
	I heard you say something about treason earlier.
	That is a very specific legal definition.
	If we had broadened ourselves to sort of the colloquial version of that, we're talking about people that are undermining America.
	And I think that goes very well with what I talked about with Mike Howell, that you see people that actually hate this country.
	There are some mechanisms that you can fight in the lawfare realm.
	We talked to Ron Coleman about the same sort of thing, that these people don't have the same values, so they don't care about what most Americans Even from 20, 30 years ago cared about the way I grew up 90% of people were raised in the 80s with a faith tradition and that's not something that is happening right now.
	These people have whatever that woke Marxist smoothie is of values that don't seem to make any sense to me.
	And so now we're in this place where you guys are asking a question.
	Where are you telling the story from?
	Because that was the thing.
	Like you started telling me, you're like, Hey, I'm in Philadelphia.
	Like I'm hanging out with crack heads or I'm hanging out with people that are meth addicts.
	And I was like, what are you doing, Ryan?
	Why are you doing this?
	This is a, this is a departure from the nice studio that you built for yourself.
	I'm like, I can't park in a handicapped spot, but you can shoot up drink into your neck in front of cops and take a poop and play with yourself naked in a parking lot.
	And you're like, oh, well, I'm about don't do heroin.
	I'm like, oh, don't knock till you try it.
	That's right.
	Well, and we are living in a time where people are seeing this double standard that conservatives are being arrested and thrown in jail and maybe even imprisoned.
	Some of them are definitely being in prison for serious amounts of time for praying outside of an abortion clinic and singing hymns.
	And then we've got this bizarre moment where, whether it be in Austin, Texas, or Philadelphia, or Detroit, or Baltimore, or Washington, D.C., or Los Angeles, San Francisco, people are doing sex acts in front of children, in front of cops, in places that, like, in a roadway.
	And nobody seems to be doing anything about it.
	Like, we're going, we're prioritizing the wrong thing.
	So what are the locations you guys went out there to go see this stuff for all this wild kind of things we've been talking about?
	You know, I've learned a lot from you, Kyle, and you always are.
	Whenever I tell you something's happening, you want the evidence, you want the proof, you want details, you want more information, you want a second, a third, or a fourth source to confirm it.
	We've watched the left change terminology.
	Just an example would be Fauci and gain-of-function, right?
	The world's leading biologist changed the definition of gain-of-function after he committed gain-of-function so that he could then claim that he didn't perjure himself and that he didn't do gain-of-function.
	So we've seen this multiple times play out.
	And we're getting to a point where a lot of people, Trump, the mainstream media, a lot of conservatives, Eli Crane, right?
	Marjorie Taylor Greene saying the word treason.
	So The idea was, if our government's committing treason, can we prove it?
	Can me and JJ go on a mission and take you across America and collect enough information and speak to enough people to actually lay out a rock solid line of evidence that proves that our government is committing treason?
	So from there, we went to San Diego.
	We went from San Diego, which is ground zero of the invasion.
	That was like the first dam to break.
	Where all of these illegal immigrants are coming in, it's California.
	So at least Texas, you had kind of like a barrier of Greg Abbott and a little bit of people who cared.
	In Arizona, you got Katie Hobbs, it took a little bit longer to get there.
	But California was the main hub.
	And that's where JJ spent a majority of his Border Patrol career.
	So he's, he's known in Border Patrol as the guy that is no BS, straight shooter, We'll go into a meeting with like all the higher ups and they'll be like, Oh, you guys are going to do this.
	And he's like, a second, second, we get out of that meeting.
	I'm like, no, scrap all that, throw in the garbage.
	We're going to go hunt down bad guys and we're going to, and we're going to save this country.
	So he's got this reputation that nobody else has.
	I've been to the border, like you said, multiple times, probably about nine now.
	And I've never once been able to have more than a, Oh, Hey, what's your name?
	Oh, what directional conversation, trying to get directions out of a park or somewhere from a border patrol agent.
	They will not even entertain a conversation with you.
	So how do you get intel about treason if you can't speak to the people that are actually almost committing the treason, right?
	They're carrying out treason based off their orders that they're giving from their higher-ups.
	So JJ had access to all this.
	Not just access, but I don't want to say anything like I'm getting anybody in trouble, but When we landed, we got our rental car and we drove straight to the main Border Patrol station.
	And I'm talking about guarded with metal chain gates.
	We pulled up to the gate and he presses a button and we buzz in.
	And I'm able to come inside this compound with thousands of Border Patrol vehicles, giant metal cages where all the migrants were in that they had just got processed in and they're like, film whatever you want.
	And I'm like, I'm not going to get you in trouble, bro.
	And he's like, no, no, film it.
	American needs to see this.
	What are they going to do?
	Give me a, give me a write up or something.
	And I didn't film it inside the place, but because he took us on a ride along after, but that's the type of access that we've been getting.
	But, but that is the, the thing that is happening right now.
	And I do think that there's a sort of a aspect of providence to it.
	We're having people come forward from the IRS, the Ziegler and Shapley, like these guys came forward and said, look, the IRS is doing things politically and they are screwing over America.
	We've had my friends and I come forward from the FBI and say the same thing.
	We're seeing some people come out of DHS and say, look, these are problems.
	We're seeing people that have reached the limit.
	It's a small number.
	I'm sure you would agree.
	But given the opportunity face-to-face with Ryan Matta and with JJ standing in front of them saying, look, don't you think this is a problem?
	The people that believe in their oath still believe in that oath.
	They just don't have a meaningful way to get any traction out of it.
	And what good is it for you to step up and say, hey, this is really wrong because nobody cares and you just get fired.
	But if you can make it a big enough movement, then I think that it's persuading some people.
	This momentum is actually in our favor, which is why I keep feeling more and more hopeful.
	It doesn't matter whether it's the Supreme Court or stuff like this, that people are willing to speak out because they know it's wrong.
	And you're seeing some of it.
	So you guys got access to Border Patrol, some ride-alongs.
	What are some of the crazy things you saw?
	You know, some of the crazy things I've seen was a double border wall.
	That's the first time I ever came to a point where there was two walls.
	One on the Mexico side, giant, probably about a half of a football field in between the two walls, and then another giant wall.
	One I think was 18 and one was 30.
	These are the biggest border walls in the game.
	During JJ's 24 years, and they call that no man's land there.
	So in no man's land, you would never, ever find a migrant.
	He might make it there for a second, but they have ground sensors, right?
	They have cameras, they have night vision.
	The second that that first wall is breached, before he even makes it halfway across, Border Patrol's on him, right?
	And then it was designed for them to do just that, to catch the bad guys and keep the bad guys out.
	We went on a ride along and, you know, they have to budge you in the gates and the giant border wall slide open.
	We can drive in the middle because there's roads on it.
	We went into that middle of that.
	Thousands, Kyle, of migrants just waiting to be picked up.
	They have breached the first wall, probably a hole in it somewhere.
	They've made it to no man's land, and now they're not even going to try to climb the next wall.
	They're just going to camp out there till Border Patrol or their Uber shows up to take them.
	That was one.
	That was in San Diego.
	We had talked to this gentleman.
	Just like the FBI, you tell me you guys have your GS-10, 11, 12 pay scales, and if you take the trip to Washington, you spend a year or two years in Washington, you get to pick your assignment, right?
	Well, I guess other government agencies have the same thing, because there's something like that in ICE or Border Patrol.
	So this gentleman that we had spoke with had took that assignment.
	Guess what his job was in D.C.? ?
	cutting the checks to the NGOs who are facilitating this.
	He was the man signing 600 million dollar checks every couple months to this group of NGOs and he explained how and I didn't fully understand this part of it, but he said that they're cutting checks once One of them's for like, say $600 million to, uh, let's just use it.
	MBM Inc.
	That was one of the big ones, or actually Jewish Family Services was one of the, one of the biggest ones.
	That's the one he actually told us about.
	So Jewish Family Services was getting $600 million, no contract bid or no bid contracts, meaning there wasn't another company and another somebody saying, Oh, I'll do it for 500.
	Nope.
	Just this is our price.
	You're going to pay us or you're not going to pay us.
	And after that he said, so he would be sitting at a table where they have like, uh, Like FEMA, Border Patrol, FBI, these bigwigs all around this table that are talking about what they're going to do, how they're going to coordinate this, what department needs what funding, and I don't know all the exact departments.
	I put out a video on it.
	It'll be in our documentary.
	But he's telling us that they came back the next month and they go, oh, you know how we were charging you 600 million to run this facility?
	Well, we're gonna have another NGO because we're not capable to deliver food to all these people.
	So you're gonna hire this other NGO for $30 million.
	And that's gonna be the food contract.
	And then, oh, these migrants need laundry service.
	We're not doing the laundry at this hotel.
	That's not us.
	We're going to hire a third-party company to do that, right?
	So now you have one NGO that's getting a fat check for $600 million and then they own a bunch of little mom-and-pop NGOs under those same corporation or the same umbrella, right?
	But different It's almost like they have a bunch of NGO shell companies.
	They have one big one at the top and they have a bunch of little ones that branch out.
	And that's the part I haven't really cracked into.
	We have FOIAs out right now that we're trying to get more information and see how that all plays out.
	But from what he told us, he was under the assumption that even though he's writing it out to Jewish Family Services, Lutheran Family Services, he's saying that it's all going basically towards the same bank account.
	From what he told us.
	Now, I don't know.
	I would like to hear more.
	I'd like to see more proof on that.
	But the idea is that we're cutting these checks.
	They're no contract checks.
	They're millions of dollars.
	We're definitely cutting them because Carlos confirmed this.
	Carlos is like, yep, there's a check for the laundry service.
	There's a company that does this.
	There's a company that does this.
	They're all separate companies.
	All of this comes under this unfalsifiable premise that if you just give us enough money and power that we can solve the problem.
	And if the problem's not getting solved, it's your fault because you just haven't given us enough money or power.
	And that's something that anybody who sits around government long enough, anybody who follows what leftist ideology says, this is the normal thing.
	This is what Margaret Thatcher called OPM, other people's money.
	At some point in time, we're gonna run out of it.
	It turns out they're just taking it out of that American dream that you were talking about earlier.
	That cheapening of the experience, doing the right thing and not getting the right result, It's because everything gets more expensive, and we're paying for everybody else's stuff.
	And so, in any case, you guys have some evidence of that.
	What are the wildest things that you've seen, like the urban rot that that grew out of?
	Because I get that there's going to be probably a deep, deep game in the financial aspect of digging into this stuff, but some of the results of it are pretty obvious in the places that you guys have gone and filmed, whether it be Skid Row or otherwise.
	So from there, we went to Chicago, right?
	And when we were in Chicago, JJ had contacted out.
	So that's how we do these operations.
	Like I'm the guy that's booking the flights, doing everything.
	JJ's trying to make contact and sources, right?
	So when we land, I got the camera gear.
	He's talking to the communicating to the guests.
	So we land in Chicago and he's coordinated with three of the largest gang members.
	Like these are top OG gangsters.
	If you remember Larry Hoover back in the day, he got busted with like a hundred million dollars.
	Right under him was Don Dirk.
	He was the king of the disciples.
	So he's done his 21 years in prison.
	He's out now.
	And he kind of helps try to get younger kids off the streets.
	So we had met with these gang members and what was cool about being in Chicago, I thought I was going to be the white guy in Chicago.
	Like I used to be the white guy in Detroit, right?
	Everybody looks at you like, what's this white guy doing here?
	You're going to the casino, you're buying prostitutes or you're getting drugs.
	You just stand out.
	I walked into Chicago expecting to be that same, that same feeling.
	And I felt like they looked at me and seen I was white and I wasn't a migrant.
	I wasn't a Venezuelan.
	And they welcomed me with open arms.
	I felt safer.
	Granted, we had the blessing from some pretty powerful gangsters that were saying that we're off limits and we are safe to be down there.
	But I watched a city that needs They don't need a handout, right?
	None of the black citizens there want a handout.
	They just want a hand up.
	They need such little.
	These inner cities, they have no restaurants, no food, no Walmarts.
	The kids eat out of a gas station.
	I bet most of the kids in the inner city there live off ramen noodles, canned tuna fish, maybe some eggs if they're lucky, but most likely Cheetos, Fritos, Pop, and stuff that you couldn't buy at your local convenience store.
	So I've seen this city that has just been so abused.
	We had found a location where they have heating and cooling buses all throughout the city of Chicago, right?
	And these are giant 47-person, top-of-the-line, nice Mercedes buses, right?
	These are giant white tour buses, basically.
	Okay.
	And they are running, they are parked on the street of Chicago, probably about 15 of them on this one block.
	And they're parked in front of a soft-sided facility.
	So the soft-sided, for the audience that doesn't know, those are the white tents that the military will set up in the middle of the desert and whatnot.
	So they have this white tent that's for processing.
	And then if the lines are too big, like when we were taking 1,000 a day just to Chicago, The lines would get too long.
	It was hot.
	It was cold out.
	So they put these buses so that the migrants can sit on these nice heating and cooling buses.
	So this is on one block and then you have like the gap in the road in the next block over, right?
	That next block over is a homeless encampment where we have American veterans that are homeless and sleeping on the streets.
	We went in there to interview a couple of them and we heard the story that this winter it got down to five below out.
	So these guys were freezing.
	And when I say that these tents that these people live in, they've probably been out there for a year.
	They're kind of got shreds in them.
	They're super faded.
	And when you stepped onto the ground, it wasn't on cement.
	So it was on dirt that had been saturated with pee and feces.
	It smelled.
	It made you want to vomit reeking in there.
	And just knowing that we have veterans living in that squalor while we have migrants getting $50 million.
	The city of Chicago signed a $50 million contract so they can deliver three gourmet sandwiches meals to the migrants that are on those heating and cooling buses.
	We were told the story that this winter got five below out and it's the windy city in Chicago.
	So if it's five below out, it probably feels like it's brutal.
	And these people are in these windbreaker tents that are saturated and probably frozen at this point.
	The feces and urine and water has probably froze their sleeping bags.
	So they're sleeping in absolute squalor.
	Like you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy.
	They go to get on one of these buses.
	The NGO calls the Chicago PD.
	Chicago PD shows up and refuses to allow American veterans onto this heating and cooling bus.
	The next morning, they had to have fingers and toes amputated, Kyle.
	Those are our veterans.
	And they're left to... If right now, let's say Joe Biden and the entire administration was guilty of treason, if I said their punishment was going to be, I would put a chain link fence around that feces filled area and make these people live in that squalor.
	That's the that's the trade-off when we bring in these people and I think that's what's and people can tell the the passion your voice on this kind of stuff too.
	I know you've seen far too much of it and been far too close.
	Where can people and you guys are doing something kind of neat with this documentary that I've never heard of done before but I think it's a really cool idea.
	You're making all of the interviews available uncut to people that want to get it.
	Which just means that they can get the raw data.
	And I think that's something that I've never heard of done.
	Where are people able to kind of find this stuff?
	And then where are they going to be able to see these clips?
	Because I know this stuff is going to move a lot of people's heartstrings.
	And maybe people get off the bench and start, you can show it to people on the left.
	Say, look, this is what these policies look like in action.
	And whether it's treason or whether it's just a crime against your decency as a human, it should move people.
	I know it moves you.
	Where can they find it?
	Yeah Kyle, they can go to thisistreason.com and you were explaining how when you watch a documentary, Police State was a good example.
	I watched and I heard you and George and all these amazing people speak and I heard what you had to say, but it was only one or two minutes and I was like, wow, I wish I could have really heard that whole conversation.
	How cool would it be if you got a documentary and then you got all the interviews that were used to produce that documentary?
	Mainly for that reason but also so when the fake news tries to discredit this documentary and say it's fake news and it's fabricated Well, you're the audience is gonna be able to go.
	No, it's not They'll be able to go right there on our website and by the time it's done.
	There'll be about 35 Maybe 30 full produced one to two hour long form interviews with every single source, or at least the sources that would allow us to put them on camera.
	We also have a couple of sources that we kept off camera and still let it out.
	So if you have a story and you have information you want us to keep your identity secret, please reach out.
	We're more than happy to do that.
	And that's it, Kyle.
	It's just thisistreason.com.
	And the one thing I didn't get to get into, I know, I went down to Philly and I spent about 18 hours down there.
	I'd met a girl right when I got down there.
	She's a 22-year-old.
	She had been raped when she was seven to the time that she was 12 by her babysitter.
	She went to school when she was 12, so probably sixth or seventh grade.
	And she took all of her clothes off at recess and she asked the boys if they wanted to play the game.
	Well, what was that game?
	That game was putting it in her butt.
	Because that's what her babysitter and his friends had done to her for the last five years and her parents allowed it.
	So she's 22 living on the streets and she's shooting trink into her neck.
	And I'm watching other homeless people shoot trink in their neck.
	Not that these are bad people, they just need help.
	A lot of them, some of them aren't savable, but some of them are.
	And just knowing that these people are out there rotting and being left for dead.
	It'll break your heart.
	But yeah, again, this is this is TreasonNet.com.
	Kyle, I greatly appreciate you having us on the show.
	For $9.99, you can pre-order the documentary.
	But for $14.99, you get the documentary pre-ordered, plus you get access to every one of these long-form videos.
	As of now, I think we have 12 up on the website.
	So if you want to hear any of these stories, you want to start kind of getting a Getting your feet wet on what's going.
	This documentary is going to be the one documentary you can buy for $14.99.
	You can give it to a friend or a relative that is completely asleep and has no idea what's going on.
	And we're going to hit you in 90 minutes, Kyle, with all of this that we talked about.
	But it's going to be hard.
	It's going to be raw.
	I'm not trying to give you a PhD.
	I'm not trying to long form explain everything to you.
	I'm just trying to give you enough of the highlights for you to understand what's happening.
	And if you choose to go watch the long form interviews, they're on the website.
	You can learn everything that we've learned along this journey.
	I'm going to give that idea to Dinesh, too, because I love the idea of being able to access that.
	And I think that not only is it a good revenue stream, but it also is, like you said, it combats that sort of mainstream media narrative.
	Ryan, I really appreciate you jumping on with me today.
	I hope you had a lovely fourth.
	I hope you have a great weekend and you guys be safe as you're out there doing some of these wild things, because this is what it takes.
	It takes a guy just basically leaving the comfort of all the things, you know, and stepping into a place where you're a foreign animal.
	And I appreciate you doing it.
	It's been fun.
	And I look forward to seeing that work at the end of it, bud.
	Honored to be on your show, Kyle.
	Thanks for having me, buddy.
	All right.
	All right, folks.
	Yeah.
	Follow Ryan at RyanMadamMedia on Twitter if you guys want to see some of these clips as well.
	If you guys want to support that project, you know where to do it.
	Most importantly, what I want you to be encouraged by is that there are people out there, whether they be Ryan, whether they be Ron Coleman, They'd be Mike Howell, that are doing what I said.
	They are doing America.
	They are looking at the word America, not just as a country or a place, as a location.
	They are considering America as an action verb.
	And they are trying to make it the place that they want their children to grow up in, their grandchildren to grow up in.
	I hope many of you are doing the same thing.
	I hope you guys enjoyed our week together.
	You can expect to see Dinesh next week.
	He is going to be back.
	Probably very jet-lagged, but he will be back.
	Thanks for letting me take the keys to the Mercedes and drive around a little bit.
	I've had a lot of fun with it.
	I hope you guys learned something.
	I hope that you enjoyed it, too.
	And if you ever want to join me in the mornings, we go live at 0930 Eastern Time, five days a week on Rumble.com.
	You can find me at Rumble.com slash Kyle Serafin from The Kyle Serafin Show.
	Until then, thanks so much for joining us this week.
	God bless you.
	God bless America.
	And I will see you guys again the next time Dinesh decides to take a wild trip around the world.

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