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CNN DEBATE: BIDEN’S EPIC FAIL Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep 864
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Hi everyone, I'm Danielle D'Souza Gill, and I'm delighted to be hosting Dinesh's podcast this week.
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Oh my goodness.
Wow.
CNN debate from last night.
That is going to be one remembered in the history books for sure.
So we're going to be talking about the debate, we're going to be going through some key We're going to be talking about some of the implications of the debate.
We are also going to talk about a recent Supreme Court decision just came out regarding the January 6thers.
So very exciting news there.
We're going to be talking to Paul Ambrosia, who is a lawyer, political commentator.
We're also going to be speaking with my husband, Brandon Gill, the Republican nominee for U.S.
Congress from Texas 26.
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All right, well, we are going to break down the CNN debate, and we are joined by Brandon, my husband, and...
As you guys know, he is great.
He is the Republican nominee for U.S.
Congress from Texas 26, and also our daughter Marigold is here joining us.
So this is very exciting, but we are very happy about the debate.
Of course, President Trump, he did absolutely amazing.
Last night, we watched it together.
We put Marigold to bed.
Turned it on.
Honestly, I'm stunned.
I could not believe how bad Biden did.
I think we've known for a long time that Biden has been seriously decaying mentally, but just to see it, just side by side, Biden and Trump, seeing that stark contrast was so strong to me.
Brandon, what was your initial reaction to seeing the debate?
The initial reaction was similar.
I think that, you know, to the extent that you could even understand what Joe Biden was saying, he was absolutely incoherent.
But for most of that, I mean, we turned the volume up pretty loud.
I could hardly understand what he was saying.
I think that he was kind of babbling nonsense most of the time.
I mean, what it made me think of is over the past two years, Republicans have been saying consistently that Joe Biden is not fit to govern.
He's too old.
He's not mentally there.
And the entire time, Democrats have gaslit Republicans and the American people.
They've said, don't believe your eyes and ears.
Don't believe the obvious evidence of cognitive decline.
I mean, just the past couple of weeks, both the New York Times and NPC have put out fact checks saying that Videos of Joe Biden, just regular videos, not doctored, not edited or anything, are either taken out of context or somehow manipulated in some way.
These are videos just showing Biden speaking, giving normal speeches that show how bad his mental state is, and they've been lying to us about it over and over and over.
The press secretary, I think it was earlier this week or last week, Talked about how videos that were, again, were just clips of Joe Biden speaking, nothing more, were fakes.
What did she call them?
No, she called them cheap fakes.
She called them cheap fakes, exactly.
She didn't say deep fakes, they were cheap fakes.
So they've been lying to us over and over.
And the thing about this is whenever you make such a flagrant, blatant lie for so long, it's like building a house of cards.
And what they were hoping would happen is that they could just keep this house of cards up long enough so that they could push Biden over the edge in November.
But last night, whenever you put Biden in front of everybody, all eyes were watching him.
Everybody in America was watching what happened last night.
The whole edifice just crumbled, and that's what we saw.
We know that he's not fit to govern, and now they're panicking.
Yeah, there was a major panic going on.
I mean, I was visibly concerned for Joe Biden, honestly, and I think what Jill Biden is doing to him is just elder abuse at this point.
I mean, she acts like I mean, this is something that is, like, good for them.
I mean, the fact that Biden is spending his elderly years, his last years on Earth, probably, in this kind of state, it's just really sad.
But I think that so many people saw the truth that Donald Trump is going to make America great again.
The best is yet to come under Donald Trump.
And under Joe Biden, we would just be living in another four years of chaos.
I mean, probably would just Decline even faster, the country, honestly, because he's destroyed the country so quickly, but looking at him and how rapid his decay was, that's how rapid the decay would be for the American country, for the people here.
Tell me a little bit about what you think will play out as far as the Democrats replacing Biden.
That's pretty much what a lot of the Democrat commentators were saying after.
They think that Biden needs to just do a service to the country and step down.
We've also seen A lot of concern about Kala, honestly.
There's discussion, I guess, of Nusang or Aggression Whitmer or someone else, but how would that even work?
Do you think that they could pull off a switcheroo?
Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, the one takeaway I had for last night with regards to Jill Biden is that to the extent that she's a doctor, she's a really bad one.
We should stop referring to her as Dr. Biden and more perhaps as Lady Macbeth, First Lady Macbeth, based on what she's doing to her husband just for the sake of attaining power.
But also, to your point, because I think you brought up something really, really important.
It wasn't just that Joe Biden did terribly in the debate, which he did.
It was that President Trump actually did very, very well.
He was really articulate.
He could identify policies where he disagreed with Joe Biden, drawing very, very stark contrast between the two, not just in terms of mental acuity, but also in terms of policy that most of the American people agree with.
And he had a lot of restraint.
I mean, it is amazing how much restraint he had as Joe Biden was fumbling the whole time.
Trump stayed on message.
He didn't attack Joe Biden, and he looked very, very presidential.
But the problem that Democrats have right now with replacing Kamala, excuse me, replacing Joe Biden, one, technically, it's very, very difficult to do that.
He's already The Democrats have already voted for Joe Biden in multiple primaries all over the country.
He has been democratically elected according to their primary process, and that, as we've been hearing for the past two years, democracy is, at least on its face, the Democrats' big policy objective right now.
But the problem that they're in is everybody knows that Mala Harris is hated just as much, or perhaps more, than Hillary Clinton was in 2016.
And if they get rid of Joe Biden, then she's the next in line, and they can't bypass the first black woman president to pick Gavin Newsom, a white male, or anybody else.
So they're kind of stuck in a really Sort of precarious position, and I think that they've got to stick with Joe Biden.
They can't get rid of him now.
They dug their hole, and now they've got to sleep in it.
Yeah.
Do you think that President Trump, it's like the election's over, he's obviously going to need a winner, or Joe Biden is dead in the water?
Or do you think that the Democrats are going to find a way to even be competitive?
I mean, I feel like if this was reversed, if it was a Republican acting the way Joe Biden did, they would be over.
But we all plan on getting past the Democrats.
We are not going to be caught in any kind of situation where we take anything for granted.
This is a great moment, obviously, but there are still months leading up to the election, which gives the Democrats time to organize and come up with some kind of You know, maybe let in more illegals, maybe that's their plan, maybe they're focused on the ballots, I don't know.
But in any case, what do you think we need to be focused on these next couple months?
Because I don't think we want Republicans to be rejoicing so much that we allow them to gain anything.
Right.
You never take anything for granted.
Republicans need to stay on message.
We need to stay really disciplined.
We need to continue to call out Joe Biden and his terrible policies and continue to call out his cognitive decline.
And we need to call out Democrats all the way down the ballot.
I mean, another one of the big winners of the debate last night was congressional Republicans, because Joe Biden's performance last night is going to kill enthusiasm for him at the top of the ticket, and it's going to drive enthusiasm for our side, and that's going to help congressional Republicans all the way down the ballot.
So it was a huge win across the board, but we've just got to make sure that we stay on message, stay disciplined, and just push this thing through and get a win in November, expand the majority, or take the Senate, excuse me, and expand the majority in the House, and definitely take the presidency.
Well, it's going to be a very exciting year.
Honestly, unprecedented times.
The fact that this is where we are, that they're prosecuting President Trump in the way that he is, but he is clearly the best choice for this country.
I'm very optimistic about it.
But, Brandon, thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks, Marigold, for coming on and joining me.
Thank you.
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I'm delighted to welcome to the podcast our guest, Paul Ingrassia.
He is the Communications Director for the NCLU and is a political commentator.
Paul, thanks so much for being here.
Thank you so much for having me, Danielle.
Yeah, wow, well, oh, so much to discuss, um, based on last night's debate.
I, um, honestly, okay, I guess I have to think of where to begin.
Well, I think before the debate ever happened, there was At least some kind of expectation that, you know, maybe CNN would be biased or maybe Biden would, at least if he just shows up, that would be considered a, you know, win for Biden or something because the expectations were so low for Biden.
I feel like going into it, a lot of people on the right went into it with a little bit of skepticism of like, okay, we don't want to just expect that Biden is going to be comatose or something.
You know, we have to be totally ready.
And Trump did such an incredible job.
He, you know, of course, I think everybody knows he won the debate, whether you're conservative or liberal.
I mean, the liberals are melting down.
You probably saw that CNN reaction, you know, panel after the debate ended, they were just literally jumping immediately to how do we get rid of Biden?
I think that the CNN exit poll showed that, you know, Trump was in the 60s, high 60s, Biden was in the 30s, as far as whether they who they who they thought won.
So clearly, I think Trump won the debate.
But I feel like now the conversation has shifted to The Democrats just, I think just wanting to replace Biden.
But I guess before we get into that, what was your reaction to the debate itself?
What did you think about kind of the points that Trump made, the points that Biden made?
How did you kind of analyze the debate and how were you experiencing it as it was happening?
I feel like as it was happening, it was just kind of surreal.
Certain moments where Biden was just Literally like trailing off looking to the side.
He it was just such a stark contrast between the two of them.
So so maybe we can start there with with what was your reaction just during the debate?
Well, the narrative Danielle as you put it, you know is going in it was supposed to be a 3v1 debate, you know, like Biden and the two moderators against Trump.
We all knew President Trump was heading into enemy territory.
So to speak being on CNN, obviously the rules were kind of rigged against him from you know,
The debate questions to the fact that this was the first presidential debate at least that i could recall that they had commercial breaks in between to allow biden time to rest and recharge his batteries and perhaps get drugged up or whatever else it might be but you know i thought president trump delivered a very strong performance just independently of biden's own implosion and the incoherence that we saw from him on his side um you know i thought he hit it out of the park on all
On all cylinders on the economy on immigration on inflation on the border and, you know, foreign policy as well.
So, you know, President Trump seemed to take a more measured approach than we've seen from previous debates and kind of just let Biden unravel for the world to see.
I mean, you know, I was kind of going into it thinking.
You know, maybe the first 20 minutes he won't be as bad as conservatives make him out to be.
I mean, we haven't seen Biden for months now.
He was allegedly preparing for 10 days or 15 days at Camp David for this great performance.
I don't know what he was doing there, but he was apparently doing a lot of debate prep beforehand and now they blame it on a cold.
But that's kind of aside from the besides the point.
But, you know, I was going into it thinking, you know, he can't Possibly be that bad maybe he'll be able to put him on something at all whatever it might be and he'll be able to at least.
Deliver some semblance of a coherent argument but really right out of the gate he was stuttering stammering you know within the first three minutes the whole thing.
Imploded and you know, there's there's a lot of fault to be had on Democrats for you know, Biden basically has got off scot-free from from the moment.
He began running for president back in 2020 in his basement.
They really have covered up for him the mainstream media has this was the debate where sort of the cover has been blown off that entire narrative, you know, they're no longer backing Biden.
He's just too bad too much of a liability for CNN for the New York Times for MSNBC.
And they all were in consensus afterwards and hysterics about the need to replace him given how.
Or a job he did on that stage last night and it really was shocking to see that the commander in chief of the free world.
had no control over his mental faculties and you know that's a telltale sign that he has absolutely no control of his administration either and he's not the one calling the shots there in the White House.
Yeah, frankly, Paul, I am worried that Biden can even continue to be president through the rest of his term now, let alone doing another term.
I mean, how is he even able to conduct his duties currently?
I mean, I think many people saw the video.
Afterwards, Jill Biden, his wife, praising him basically just for standing there answering the questions.
She's like, great job.
And even I think Aaron Burnett was on video saying that, you know, they gave Joe Biden the questions.
He was able to practice with the mic, all of those things.
And so literally all he had to do was Do everything he practiced.
It's like if you already knew everything they were going to say and you had the 10 days or however long it was at Camp David to practice, you're literally just there to repeat things and he just literally couldn't do it.
So, um, when you look at, well, I guess we'll, we'll, we'll get back to Biden, but as far as Trump, when you look at the message that he put out, do you feel like, um, a lot of voters were looking at, wow, you know, Trump Made a really compelling message.
I like the arguments he made.
He focused a lot on immigration.
He focused a lot on the border, which of course is a top concern for Americans.
Also the economy.
So do you think that that also stuck out?
Yeah, I think so as well.
There was a clip circulating on Twitter and other social media platforms of Biden debating Paul Ryan when he was vice president from 12 years ago.
It was so obvious that he's mentally declined significantly over those past 12 years.
I think the decline was definitely already in place in 2020 when he won the election, but it's just undeniable at this point.
As for Trump, And his performance, I think, you know, anyone who even isn't, you know, too close, follows politics too closely, just watching that debate last night, looking at those two guys, it's like, unless you don't have a brain in your head, you're gonna say, I want Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
I mean, it's as clear as day.
It's not, it's not even a, A contest.
Donald Trump did so well.
And even, you know, CNN, of course, you know, asked them questions that really aren't too relevant for this election cycle on certain issues.
Abortion, for example, is already a well-settled law after Roe v Wade has been overturned.
That's not really a major issue, I would say, going into this 2024 race.
The issues that voters are concerned about Or crime, or inflation, or the economy, or securing the border, or is overseas and what's going on in the Ukraine and the Middle East.
Those are the issues that are front and center.
Abortion basically has been relegated, I think, to the back burner.
So the fact that CNN focused so much time on that, as well as You know, climate change and the environment, and these are all issues that are not popular with anyone at this point.
The electric vehicle mandates and all that stuff, you know, that has really, really low support outside of the most fringe circles of the Democratic Party.
People are concerned about, you know, paying for the price of groceries and gas and really their mortgages, everything.
Those are the bread and butter issues that Voters truly care about and then again the weaponized system of justice and the indictments against Trump.
That's unprecedented.
That's historic So, you know all those issues definitely factor into the judgments of regular voters and I think on all of them Donald Trump was able to pivot back to the concerns that everyday normal Americans are Worried about and we'll be voting on this November and I think on those issues he was very strong and then I You know, as long as he just let Biden talk, the guy basically destroyed himself.
He didn't allow any unforced errors.
He kind of just let Biden reveal himself to the world.
And you saw the media panic afterwards.
And I think many Democrats now are, you know, trying to find a replacement for him.
We're going into July now and five months away from November.
I don't know if they're going to be able to pull that off, but we'll see what happens.
Yeah.
Do you think the messaging from, let's say, Karine Jean-Pierre or whoever's speaking for Biden is going to be, wow, you know, Biden is sharp as a tack.
He's so, you know, alert.
He, there's nothing wrong with him.
Conservatives just come out with these, these cheap fake videos or whatever.
And they're just trying to make it seem like he's, he's incompetent, but he actually is doing great and continue that narrative.
Or do you think it's going to have to be, We just can't talk about this.
It's just going to be like the Democrats just don't talk about it anymore.
I mean, right now, I think the left media that usually carries water for Biden is panicking.
As you said, they're freaking out.
And the fact that they're willing to roll on him, I think is pretty significant.
But eventually, if Biden remains a nominee, I think the left is going to defend him somehow.
So how do they do that, considering Americans have seen with their own eyes The truth of where Biden's mental state is.
I think in Biden's White House, the smarter staffers are looking now to probably escape and cash out for a job on MSNBC or CNN.
The ones who are low IQ, which is a large percentage of them, might stay in and try to cover up, continue to cover up for Joe Biden.
I think it all depends on how stubborn a guy he is.
And Joe Biden is a stubborn man.
You don't get to his position being 50 years in the Washington, D.C.
swamp.
And he's really the personification of everything Americans hate about DC.
He truly is an establishment politician through and through, as corrupt as they come.
And I don't see him willingly surrendering the reins of power.
Now, all that might change.
He might be convinced otherwise.
People might give him an offer he can't refuse, so to speak, and be forced out of that office.
But again, I think logistically and constitutionally it'll be much more difficult, especially given the timeline now.
You know, we're already almost in July.
The Republican National Convention is this month.
Obviously, the DNC is in August, so they have a little bit more time.
Kamala Harris, who would be next in line for the presidency if Biden were removed by the 25th Amendment or some other provision, has lower approval ratings than Joe Biden.
I think Democrats, even though they would like someone to replace him, who would they pick?
Realistically, people have been talking about Michelle Obama.
Potentially Hillary Clinton.
I know she's trying to get back into the ring and have another go around against Donald Trump, but really like no one commands any sort of unity within the party.
Obviously Gavin Newsom was there too, and he's always trying to jump in as well.
But I don't see anyone in the Democratic circles who would be able to actually meet Biden's level of popularity among the Democratic Party base.
Now all that could change.
We don't know what might happen, but You know, I think he's a stubborn man.
I think he's going to try to hold on to the power that he has, you know, going through November.
Hmm.
Yeah, it seems like Biden doesn't want to step down.
He probably likes being president, probably thinks it's fun.
And his wife tells him, you know, great job at everything he does.
And she's probably benefiting, obviously his family is benefiting.
So they don't really want the gravy train there to end.
I've heard people say, you know, maybe Obama will call the shot, maybe he'll convince him to step down.
But At the end of the day, I think it doesn't matter who these other people are because Biden is in the White House right now.
So you can't really force him out.
I mean, you can expose him, but he was sort of just exposed by his own doing.
So at that point, it seems like they're kind of stuck with him.
I mean, you mentioned the timeline.
I think leading into July, the conventions in August, but then it's like, would it be an open, an open convention?
Or would they sort of try to coordinate a new person?
But then again, if they do that, how do they skip over Kamala Harris, the black woman who's vice president currently, who has lower poll numbers than Joe Biden, it seems like it would be really difficult to pass over her.
And even if they had this full on Debate, it's like they already had a Democrat primary.
Their primary already occurred and Biden won that, so you can't really re-litigate the primary.
I mean, I guess if Joe Biden is wanting to step down, maybe also if Kamala is willing to disappear, but why would she do that?
She'd rather be vice president or president.
I mean, I think you hit the nail on the head.
It's a very complicated situation.
I mean, the closest analogy here would be like when Nixon, when Gerald, when his first vice president, Spiro Agnew, resigned from office and then Nixon appointed Gerald Ford to be vice president.
I mean, I heard something like that.
I doubt that they'll be able to pull that off where, you know, Kamala Harris runs ops to run for governor of California and they switch The VP out for Newsome, and then Biden resigns, and then Newsome gets in.
I mean, there's way too many moving parts there, though, that you think the Democrats and all their incompetence would be able to pull that off.
I mean, listen, they've been known to rig a presidential election, so you don't want to put anything past them.
But just at this stage, it just looks like a whole mess for them.
The Biden White House, again, there's also a lot riding on Biden's Shoulders in terms of protecting his own political interests I mean obviously his son hunter is facing criminal charges has been indicted himself that has been convicted for these crimes So, you know being in the White House being in charge of the Department of Justice you're able to exert obviously some control over his own family's criminality and there's a great deal of criminality there and it's not just a
It doesn't just end with Hunter.
It goes all the way up to the big man himself, Joe.
So, you know, there are many incentives or disincentives for Joe Biden from stepping down from office.
And, you know, I think the wife, Dr. Jill, you know, kind of enabling and abetting her husband to stay in there last night.
I mean, they were acting like he gave the greatest performance since Lincoln defeating Stephen Douglas in the debates back then.
They treat the guy like he's the greatest politician we've ever seen in American history.
So, you know, with that sort of mentality around him, and also, I don't think his staffers have the courage to say that this guy, to call out the emperor, that he has no clothes, to say that the guy has totally lost his mental marbles.
I just don't see them being able to pull that off.
I mean, it could happen.
It's much more difficult when you're in the Incumbents position when you're already president than it when you're running sort of as an outsider trying to get in.
So, you know, anything could happen, but I just it's it's it's a lot of moving pieces to make sure everyone's aligned.
And, you know, even if you take Biden out, there's going to be a ton of infighting within the party itself.
You're going to have the Kamala people believing that they deserve The position you're going to have Gavin Newsom saying, oh, I'm the only one who could actually win it.
You have the Obama people who are quietly pulling the strings behind the scenes trying to get their preferred candidate in there.
And then also you have Hillary Clinton who definitely wants to get back in as well.
So you have all these people who really secretly hate each other behind the scenes.
They try to put on a display of unity for for the uh national press and for the public but you know there there just are a ton of liabilities in taking him out and you know we'll see what happens but again well i'm not too um i i think it would be too much for them yeah yeah definitely and it seems like You know, Biden, he's such a child.
So it's kind of like, you do a good job, Biden.
Wow.
You know, like you would with with a really little kid, you'd be like, wow, that's so awesome.
It's like, that's how Jill treats him when the when the debate's over.
It's like, wow.
I'm like, wow, you are just, and his decline is so rapid.
That's the thing too.
Like you mentioned the older videos of Biden, even earlier, it's like he was losing his mental capacity, but I think it's getting to the point where it really does make people worry.
And you would think after the debate, Republicans, we'd all be celebrating.
We'd all be super excited because you know, our side won and Trump did great and it was awesome.
But it's like, I'm concerned for this country.
I'm concerned for the nation leading to the election.
And that's even coming from someone just looking at the next few months.
So I think Biden is in a lot of trouble leading into November.
And I guess the Democrats are going to have to figure out something.
We'll see how the discussion continues with replacing him or not.
But I actually wanted to ask you to pivot a little bit to the Supreme Court cases that just came out today.
Maybe you can talk a little bit about the January 6th case.
The Supreme Court ruled that they actually are, you know, pretty much going to be helping in a way.
Many of these January Sixers in their ruling because they're not going to be using this obstruction kind of excuse, which is the excuse that a lot of the courts have used to go after January Sixers say, oh, you've been obstructing and so that will no longer be allowed.
So maybe you can break down that a little bit and kind of what was your reaction to the decision?
Sure, exactly.
And just to put a sort of ribbon on our previous point, President Trump, I think, said it best, too, saying, listen, I don't want to be in this position.
I wish the country was being run.
I want to see this country succeed.
It's very sad to see someone like that in charge of our country.
And obviously, our enemies, our adversaries, China, Russia, they're looking at that and seeing such weakness.
So I agree with you on that point, totally.
You know, it is a very sad reflection on our current political leadership.
As far as the Supreme Court decision, very, very good news today.
It was, you know, all these J6 political hostages have been in some shape exonerated of their, you know, these were innocent people in the first place.
They merely exercised their First Amendment right To assemble peaceably, the overwhelming majority of them did assemble peaceably and peacefully at the Capitol.
They were allowed into the Capitol building by police and by other agitators who were interspersed throughout the crowd during that day.
All of that is well known now.
The J6 committee, the House committee, composed of an all-Democratic committee, aside from Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, who were basically Democrats and who have since resigned from office because they're so unpopular within the Republican base.
That narrative that they put out, that these people were violent insurrectionists, were domestic terrorists, to be treated with heavy-handed justice, has been totally discredited.
And it's good to see some justice finally being served after four long, very difficult years for these people, for their families, for their children.
Many of these defendants who have been stripped of their due process rights by our government have young children at home.
I met with many of the families.
I know many of the families.
And to have their moms and dads taken away from them during such formative years in their childhood, it's a disgrace.
This is truly one of the worst, if not the worst, violations of civil rights in our country's history.
And that really is without exaggeration.
So it's good to finally see the Supreme Court intervene.
I mean, it is too little.
I mean, listen.
The fact that any of this had to happen in the first place I think is beyond the pale, but it's good to see the Supreme Court strike down a clearly weaponized use of a statute that has no bearing whatsoever
On what occurred at the capital i mean this was a statute that was used during the enron scandal in the early two thousands to clean up the accounting industry and other industries that were admired by corruption in those days and they totally retrofitted and use this statute.
in a way that was inconceivable to those who wrote it, to crack down on January 6th political protesters because they don't obviously like MAGA supporters and they want to silence the Trump movement.
But we're finally seeing justice.
It was a pretty strong majority decision in the Fisher case, and it's good news.
Hopefully all these people will at some point be released and pardoned.
That's what they deserve.
But this is a very strong step in that direction, and all conservatives, really, and all Americans should be rejoicing in this news today.
Yeah, definitely.
Such incredible news.
Of course, what they've been through is just a complete travesty, so this is very much late in the game, but at least, thank goodness, there is at least some justice being done there.
And I was happy to see Trump's response in the debate, because I feel like he handled the January 6th issue very well.
He brought it back to issues that most Americans care about.
I mean, to be honest, most Americans are not still thinking about January 6th, unlike the left would have you believe.
The left is obsessed with the issue of January 6th.
And so he talked about how, you know, we have such a much better country on January 6th, honestly.
I think it was good that he talked about how the country used to be better off.
And then he also said that what's been happening to the January Sixers is awful.
He didn't throw them under the bus either.
So I think that was a very good way to handle it.
As we wait for more Supreme Court decisions to come out, where do you expect things to come out on the presidential immunity case?
Well, I think they'll be.
I mean, we're expecting this decision.
If not today, I don't think it will come out today by Monday.
And I think they're going to rule again, the court in President Trump's favor.
I mean, if they don't, you know, then they could pretty much press charges against not just President Trump, but Biden, Bush, Obama for any crimes committed in their official capacity as president.
I think it's a pretty straightforward case, I expect.
Probably consensus or near consensus of the Supreme Court, including among the court's liberals on that decision.
Presidents have always enjoyed presidential immunity.
Obviously, President Trump did not do anything that was criminal by any stretch of the imagination.
But, you know, official acts as president for which Biden is now weaponizing, again, the justice system.
In this documents case and many other cases against President Trump, To try to keep him out of our election, of our political arena, because ultimately this is election interference.
That's why they sent, that's why they indicted, that's why they convicted him in a Manhattan courthouse last month.
That's why they're trying to remove him with these presidential immunity cases.
But, you know, I think they're going to deal another win for President Trump.
I think it will be a pretty resounding victory, a pretty resounding decision on the Supreme Court's part.
And it should only embolden President Trump as he moves forward in this crusade to win back the White House.
But that's what we're expecting.
That's the last major case on the docket.
We're seeing a little bit with Amy Coney Barrett.
This is sort of a side point, but she's been wavering a little bit.
She dissented in today's Fisher decision for the January 6th defendants.
She wrote the majority opinion just two days ago.
I'm saying that the government has the right to coerce private actors big tech into silencing conservative voices.
So that's a little alarming for me and for many who've been paying close attentions to the court.
I think when President Trump wins again this November, we have to do a better job vetting judges and we have to make sure the Federalist Society doesn't have a complete monopoly over that because we're seeing a little bit of You know, indecision here on Supreme Court justices where the where the issue should be pretty crystal clear for them.
The constitutional issues are pretty straightforward.
And the fact that they're wavering is a little alarming.
But that aside, I think going back to the original point, I think presidential immunity will be a win again for President Trump on Monday.
Yeah, you know, I think that, gosh, I mean Clarence Thomas is such an incredible Supreme Court Justice, Justice Samuel Alito, such an incredible justice, so it's going to be such a huge challenge one day to ever replace them because we will have to really high bar and we have to get people who are just sound, constant, have great, you know, Track record, all those things.
And so they're just amazing.
But I wanted to ask you a little bit about your experience in the New York courtroom when you were there.
I know you were telling me a little bit earlier that you were able to see the action live and you're going to be back there for the sentencing.
So maybe you can give us a little window into what that was like.
I mean, it was surreal again, you know, you're seeing, we talk constantly about the weaponized system of justice and how, you know, with all these indictments between Fannie Willis in Georgia to Jack Smith in DC to Alvin Bragg here in New York City, how they're all Inclusion to remove President Trump and interfere with the election and remove him from the campaign trail and that was on full display here in Manhattan in New York City.
You know that it's yet another case based on a totally trumped up ridiculous groundless charge there.
I mean, we don't even know what the crime was here.
I mean, I was in the courtroom with Jonathan Turley and Andy McCarthy and all these other Far more experienced legal commentators there have been observing New York courts for decades, and not even they could articulate what exactly the underlying crime on which this jury and the venue, obviously the venue is rigged in the Democrats' favor.
This was a district that voted for Biden 9 to 1, you know, so 90% Democrat control.
That alone should be grounds for dismissal of the case.
The judge acted totally out of line.
He admonished President Trump's attorneys every opportunity he could get.
He didn't allow Trump to bring in key witnesses to talk about very complex issues of federal election law.
He was very mean towards one of the witnesses, Robert Costello, one of the defense witnesses.
He is a respectable character in his own right.
He's a longtime veteran lawyer.
He's been in the New York court system for decades.
This judge had a meltdown on the bench.
He basically threw out all the press and told Robert Costello to shut up.
It was just surreal, you know, but very typical of any sort of liberal.
I mean, this is kind of the sort of behavior that you would expect from them.
They don't care about the Constitution.
They don't care about the rule of law.
They just want to silence President Trump.
And that was basically the motivating factor for this decision and what we saw here.
It's a disgrace.
It's a total miscarriage of justice.
But I think this case is going to fall apart just like all the others.
And I think President Trump It's reflected in his poll numbers is going to come out better than ever and American people see right through it.
He's winning in the court of public opinion, which is what matters in the end and for me as a lawyer and for someone who works in New York City and New York State.
It's just.
Really, really sad to see how bad and corrupted the court system has gotten, the criminal justice system in particular.
I mean, this is a state court case, and just to see how freely they trample over, you know, the rules of evidence and the rules of professional ethics, how they allow a judge who donated money to a Democratic, to Joe Biden, whose daughter sits on a consulting firm, That employs the Biden Harris campaign as one of its clients and who has profited off this relationship tens of millions of dollars and who has, you know, it's absurd.
It's egregious.
There are just so many violations that you lose track of it and for all that to be occurring here in the United States court system is It's a real sad reflection on our current justice system.
It has to be cleaned out.
We have to remove these corrupt judges and we have to restore some integrity to our justice system and to our institutions in the next Trump administration or else we're not going to have a free country anymore.
And it really all depends on This combating this weaponized system of justice, and I know President Trump personally, based on conversations I've had with him, is going to make this a number one priority when he's back in the White House, because you can't go on like this.
You're not going to have a free country anymore with a justice system as bad as the way it is in New York City, and it's like that in many other parts of the country as well.
Yes.
I mean, the weaponization of the government is just beyond ridiculous, but that is why I was so happy to see that Supreme Court decision we talked about earlier.
Paul, thank you so much for being with me today.
I really appreciate your thoughts, and I am looking forward to seeing how this all plays out for November.
Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see how it plays out.
Let's pray for President Trump.
Let's pray for all those who are being targeted by our weaponized justice system.
And let's pray for this country because this country really needs our prayers right now.
But thank you so much, Danielle.
I really, really appreciate you inviting me on this morning.
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