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The impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden has been proceeding, well, a little too slowly for my taste, but I suppose we should be grateful that it's proceeding at all.
And, uh.
The latest development is a somewhat heartening one, namely that Representative Comer and others have now issued subpoenas directly to members of the Biden family.
So this is a kind of threshold because, you know, it's one thing, let's bring in Devin Archer, let's bring in some of the business associates.
And this new subpoena does involve a business associate, Rob Walker, who is a part of the financial network of the Bidens.
But it also includes Hunter Biden and James Biden, two key figures here because these are two of the key bag men.
Again, they don't run the racket.
The racket is Joe Biden's racket.
But Joe Biden makes them go collect the cash and then the cash is funneled around through various LLCs.
It ends up in the hands of one Biden family member or another.
And then essentially Joe Biden gets his cut.
He gets his 10% for the big guy.
In addition to calling in Hunter Biden and James Biden, the House has also demanded transcribed interviews with James Biden's wife.
That's Sarah Biden.
Biden's daughter-in-law, her name is Hallie Biden.
Well, she's the widow of President Biden's son, Beau, and then she was later romantically involved with Hunter, Halle Biden's older sister, Elizabeth Secundi, and Hunter Biden's wife, Melissa Cohen.
Now, why are these people being called in?
Well, they're being called in because there is a...
They're all part of the money trail.
The media hasn't been reporting a lot of this, but the truth is money has been going not just into Hunter Biden's account.
It'd be one thing if he was the single funnel.
But no, money goes to Frank Biden.
It goes to James Biden.
It goes to their wives.
It goes to the in-laws.
goes to the daughters. So this is a family business of crime. It's a crime business being run by the Biden family. It's essentially a criminal operation conducted at the extended family level. And the reason that the extended family is involved is not because the family is really close, like, oh, we do everything together like a family business of running a grocery store. No, it's because that's the way to camouflage the payments. The payments Let's go not to Joe Biden typically.
They go to others and then they funnel their way to Joe Biden.
Now, frankly, for a bribery scheme to work, and this is a point that Peter Schweitzer made on the podcast just a couple of days ago, he goes, you don't have to prove that the money went to Joe Biden.
It's kind of like if I'm running a corrupt bribery operation and all the money is going to Debbie or to Danielle, you know, so what?
That's a benefit to me.
So it doesn't actually matter if I get the cash myself.
You don't have to prove that.
So a lot of times what the left is saying in defense of Joe Biden is just a talking point.
Well, you haven't shown that Joe Biden himself got the money.
Well, we actually have shown that.
But until recently, where there were checks with Joe Biden's name on it, the left was like taking refuge in the U. You haven't shown direct payments to Joe Biden.
Well, they don't have to be direct payments to Joe Biden to constitute a bribe.
Now, question becomes, can these subpoenas be avoided?
Can the Biden family members go, you know what, you want us to testify, but we're not going to.
Well, they can be avoided temporarily.
But according to Jonathan Turley, political scientist and expert on these kinds of matters, he goes they can't actually be avoided at all.
Because in the end, he says, first of all, I'm now quoting him,"...the House has an obvious and legitimate interest in these interviews.
It would likely prevail in any challenge in court." Moreover, he says, refusal to appear could force the hand of A.G. Garland, who has aggressively pursued Trump associates for contempt.
So when Trump associates got subpoenas, I remember Bannon got a subpoena.
Bannon didn't accept the subpoena.
He didn't show up. And they prosecuted him.
So the point being, okay, if you're going to prosecute people who are getting a House subpoena and don't show up, now the question is, why isn't Biden prosecuting the Biden family for not showing up if they're given a subpoena?
So it's going to be really interesting.
They're not going to want to show up because the money trail is already established.
And I think what they're going to be asking these guys is simply this.
You wrote a check to Joe Biden, and in the memo, you said loan repayment.
Where's the loan? When did Joe Biden give you this original $200,000 that you were supposedly paying back?
Produce the evidence of it.
Did you sign an IOU in which, for example, he gave you the money, you agreed to pay it back either for no interest or a small amount of interest?
Where's that document?
And if there's no such document, and if there's no money trail, then there wasn't an original loan.
And if there wasn't an original loan, then there's no repayment of the non-loan.
And the money was obviously being given to Joe Biden for some other reason.
Well, what other reason? Except, this is bribery money.
We've been collecting it as a family, but obviously you want your share, and here it is.
And we're disguising that by writing a misleadingly loan payment so if the check ever surfaces, we can pretend it was the repayment of a loan, but there was no such loan.
So all of this is now going center stage.
And I am glad that they are pursuing it with a kind of dogged determination.
may be a little too slow for my taste but I am impressed with the clarity and thoroughness with which they're moving forward.
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I want to talk about a very interesting article in a quite obscure site called Honest Reporting.
So Honest Reporting is a site that covers, does investigative journalism, but with a focus on the Middle East.
And Honest Reporting, the journalists for Honest Reporting...
We're reviewing the footage of the Hamas attacks on Israel, and they noticed something very interesting, which is that there were apparently reporters for AP, for CNN, for the New York Times, and for Reuters So, what does that mean?
Well, what it means is that when Hamas was carrying out these attacks, these journalists went along with them.
They accompanied the terrorists.
And the reason you know that is they got footage that you could only have gotten by being there.
They got footage from the attacks themselves, which means that they were tipped off to the attacks.
They were, in a sense, part of the attacks because they were going with the Hamas fighters.
They didn't tell anybody that Hamas was about to launch an attack.
They certainly didn't notify the police.
They certainly didn't notify Israel.
They were there to, quote, cover the attacks, but they must have known about the attacks either in advance or at the time that the attacks were occurring because they were there.
They were part of the invading force.
And then, of course, there appears all this footage.
And so here you have something very interesting, which is to say you've got Western journalists.
By the way, most of them themselves Muslim, but working for AP, working for CNN, working for New York Times.
And what this site called Honest Reporting does is they look at the bylines.
They look and see who are the photographers, who are the videographers, who are the writers, and they name them.
So, for example, for AP... They give photo credits to Hassan Elia, Yousef Masood, Ali Mahmood, and Hatem Ali.
These four guys were on the scene.
Now here's the question. Are they part of Hamas?
Probably not. But are they close to Hamas?
Are they in with Hamas?
Did Hamas go, hey guys, listen, we're going to launch these attacks.
You come with us. You're going to get some amazing footage.
We want you then to put it out.
And these guys are like, yeah, great.
This is fantastic. So here you have basically journalists who seem to be part of the enemy camp.
Or at least who are willing to do business with the enemy.
Now their motives may be journalistic.
We want to show vivid footage and so on.
But think about it. You are notified.
Think of a journalist, for example.
Let's just change the scenario slightly and say there are American journalists who know about 9-11.
The 9-11 attacks are going to be made and there are Al-Qaeda guys who say to AP and to CNN, you know what?
You can actually be at the airport when our guys go through.
You can photograph them going through.
Now, of course, the authorities won't know, but you'll know.
And that footage will be invaluable to you later because nobody else will have it.
And then we're going to tell you what the targets are so you can have your journalists on the scene.
You can capture carnage like nobody else will because other people are going to show up later and see what's happening.
You'll be there while it's happening.
Now, think about this.
Are these journalists, is this journalistic integrity to be completely indifferent to what's happening?
You have a terrorist attack, you have advanced knowledge of it, you have no responsibility to disclose it, to report it, to, and by report it, I don't just mean report it in your news article the next day or later, but to report it to the authorities so that the attack can be blunted, can be thwarted, can be prevented.
So, evidently, we have these journalists who are, well, I think it's hard not to see them as anything other than Hamas sympathizers.
They're Hamas sympathizers, and they're also opportunistic journalists who want to get the story, regardless of whether or not people are getting killed in the meantime, and killed partly through an operation that they are part of.
They are part of the contingent that is launching the operation.
Now, I saw just a few minutes ago in one of my updates that CNN has suspended its relationship with one of these videographers.
They claim that they don't know that he did anything wrong, but nevertheless, I'm assuming because of this article, and this article is making its rounds in social media, that...
That CNN has decided it's prudent not to be seen as...
CNN is kind of a wing of the anti-Israel movement, but this is maybe a little too blatant.
In other words, having CNN journalists part of the attacking squad of Hamas.
So they're like, we're going to pull back from this guy.
But... But this, to me, is a pretty unnerving and horrifying example of news agencies that I know they're going to claim, we're just doing our job.
But doing your job takes on a whole different coloration when you are contacted in advance on a planned attack by a terrorist organization that recruits you to be part of its, quote, To record the carnage that they are about to inflict and then show it to the world, which is part of the objective of the terrorists themselves.
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Debbie and I here for our Friday roundup and we thought we'd start talking about...
This issue of Trump's enduring strength in the polls.
And the question I have is, is this a sign that the police state machinations are beginning to be recognized by the American people?
Because for Trump to be winning in these swing states is a way of saying that there are independents who are sort of Opening their eyes to the fact that something is amiss.
And let's remember that our police state has a massive media fortification.
All the stuff we talk about, I talk about in the podcast about the House Oversight Committee did this, they did that, they discovered this check going straight to Joe Biden.
No coverage in the New York Times, no coverage in the Washington Post, no coverage on CBS. So there's a whole swath of Americans who don't even know this is even happening.
Their media is lying to them, lying here by omission.
Just, we won't touch that.
We won't cover it. And remember, this is the same media, by the way, that was willing to cover every rumor about Trump.
You know, Trump was peeing on some guy in a hotel room in Moscow.
Complete fabrication, but nevertheless, wall-to-wall coverage.
And now when you have Joe Biden's name on the check...
And you know, and then it's funny.
I see all these guys, you know, Aaron Rupar and all these kind of sycophants.
They're like, it was a loan.
Don't you see in the memo loan repayment?
No media skepticism.
Like, where's the original loan?
Show us the original payment that Joe Biden made that's now being repaid.
Where's the IOU? None of it.
So what do you make of these?
Please talk about the poll and then your reaction to it.
So, well, the former Jill Biden spokesperson, he explodes on Biden's team because he blames it on the team.
He basically goes on to on X. He goes, Trump has a higher favorable plus Biden has higher unfavorable.
This is inexcusable for a man universally known for his character and integrity.
What? Universally known for his character and integrity?
Now, does anyone remember what is Tara Rhodes?
I mean, come on, man.
Yeah. This man has no integrity.
Well, it really shows you that...
What is he talking about?
Well, you know, Biden's reputation was that this was kind of a longtime senator.
He's a guy who gets along with everybody.
That's kind of why they wanted him on the ticket, to tap into that old image.
But that image has been so tarnished by facts.
Well, not only that, but don't you remember even when he was running for Senate early on, all of these newscasters and stuff were saying, oh, he lied about this.
He lied about that.
He lied. He plagiarized.
And so you go back decades, 40 years.
And it's lie after lie after lie after lie.
How could this guy possibly say he has any information?
I mean, look, in a sane country, Trump would be at 80 percent and Biden would be at 15.
And then you'd even wonder who the 15 are.
But the fact that they're running kind of neck and neck at one level is disturbing because it shows the way that the country is different than it was 20 years ago or 30 years ago.
Our job is more difficult because the country is hanging far more in the balance.
But at least encouraging that Trump is...
Seems to be pushing ahead.
First of all, I don't believe in polls.
I just don't. I think that everybody gets super excited.
Oh, he's ahead in the polls.
And then what happens?
Oh, he lost by, you know, however.
I don't believe in polls.
But that being said, I do think that if CNN is reporting this, they're up to something.
I don't trust them.
I don't trust the media.
And so if they are reporting that the polls are not where they want them to be, I think that some shenanigans are...
I see what's going on. You're basically saying don't look at the facts just for what they are, meaning the poll data.
Look at it as, is it the case that CNN... Is part of a movement to move Biden out?
Because they're like, maybe, you know what?
This guy's not doing it for us.
Either that or they're galvanizing the Democrat voters to get out there and vote.
You know what I mean? Because they do that very well.
They're stirring up the pot.
Like, guys, this man can't possibly beat Biden.
You know, how can you let this happen?
Go out there and vote.
You know, just all up. Or maybe even to provoke the left-wing billionaires.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
I know a lot of people allude to the fact that they think that they're trying to get Biden out or whatever.
I don't think that's the case.
First of all, I don't think Biden is the one running the country.
No, he isn't. This is why I think they don't need to get him out.
He's not in. Exactly.
I don't think Biden runs his own life, let alone the country.
So the people running the country, and you have to look at it.
We're supposed to be a democracy, but we're being run by kind of a junta.
And Biden is their man.
He's their front man. And they like it that way.
Think of it. If they get somebody else, let's even say they get Newsom, Newsom's going to want to make decisions.
Right. So they don't want a real president.
They've got a setup right now that works beautifully for them, and they would like to keep it going for four years.
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I want to talk about actually one of our favorite characters, and this guy is a character.
He's running for the presidency of Argentina, and he's in the final.
There's a runoff, and is it November 19th?
I believe so, yeah. That there's the election.
So his name is Javier Millet?
Millet. Millet.
And why don't you introduce him, and I have any thoughts about him.
Yeah, well, first of all, I call him the blaga.
You know, and then Josh is like, what's blaga?
Make Latin America great again.
I see. Perfect. And it's inappropriate because he has a, not only does he have a Trumpian flair, but there are certain aspects of his personality that go even beyond Trump.
Beyond Trump. He's comical.
Yeah. He's flamboyant.
He's comical. He is absolutely amazing.
Yeah, this guy's hilarious.
Well, we ought to say a couple things about him.
First of all, he's a smart guy.
He's an economist. He's an economist, yep.
He's apparently a kind of a populist libertarian.
That's the way they describe him.
Remember, we saw the social media video where he wants to get rid of the central bank?
Oh, yeah. So his supporters create a pinata, which is the central bank.
Then they blindfold this guy and they give him a sort of a stick.
And he goes insane and they get nervous.
They're like, no, no, no, take it easy, take it easy.
But he's like whacking this pinata.
And the other thing I love is he was being interviewed by a left-wing reporter and she was very earnest and solemn.
And she's like, why do you refer to the left as SHIT? And he goes...
Because they are! Because they are S-H-I-T! Yeah!
He goes off on the left like nobody does in South America.
I mean, as you know, South America is a stronghold for communism and socialism.
It has been. Marxism.
And he is going after the status quo.
He's going against it. He is basically saying, I'm going to turn Latin America great again.
I'm going to turn Argentina great again.
Because as you know, it's been an economic disaster for Well, Argentina is like Venezuela.
Argentina was a very rich country.
If you go to the turn of the 19th century, the beginning of the 20th century, Argentina was one of the fastest growing countries in the world.
It's got tremendous natural resources.
It was the world's storehouse of beef.
It was exporting beef all over the world.
They were growing at 6% or 7% when other countries were growing at 2% or 3%.
And so it had a very bright future.
But what they've done is really what Biden's been doing in the United States, massive overspending, getting into debt.
Now they have 100% inflation.
And 100% inflation basically means that prices double every year.
Think about that. You buy a car, next year the price doubles, and the next year it doubles over that.
Mm-hmm. So this is now an economy in crazyville.
Yeah. And I think Argentinians know there's a real problem.
They do. But the socialists are trying to stop him, right?
They're saying that he's a danger to democracy.
He's a danger to democracy.
Doesn't that sound familiar?
Yeah. How are you a danger to democracy when you're trying to win?
When you're trying to fix it. And you're running as a populist to get the popular vote.
infinitely install you as the president, how are you a danger to democracy?
I don't understand.
It doesn't make any sense.
And he's someone also that is against the Chinese influence.
He's against the Iranian influence down there.
He's really going head to head with these Marxist socialist communists.
Well, the reason he's being attacked in Europe, he's being attacked, is because he's an anti-globalist.
Right, that too.
He's against the World Economic Forum.
He's against the UN.
He doesn't want to give up Argentinian sovereignty.
And so they're treating him as if he's a danger.
He's not a danger to democracy.
He's a danger to them.
To them. He's a danger to them.
Yeah, to their system of regimented control.
Yeah, yeah. And subordination to international institutions.
Yeah. No, he's really a good guy.
But, you know, I always, because of the pessimists in me, I always think this is too good of a thing.
Yeah. Well, you thought that about Georgia Maloney in Italy.
Yeah, I did. I was very surprised, pleasantly.
So the guy running against him is Sergio Massa, who is apparently the coalition candidate of the ruling party.
He, too, is an economist, but a left-wing economist.
And there was initially a multi-candidate election.
only got 30%. The other guy got like 35%, but there was a third man who was a conservative in the race. So if we manage to get, or we, I say we, if Argentina manages to get those votes, Malay gets those votes, he can possibly win. He should win.
I think that's why they're scared of him. Yeah. It's because in the runoff, he's going to be stronger probably. Yeah.
As, by the way, was the case also in Brazil.
In Brazil, you know, Bolsonaro, he was far behind in the polls, but in the runoff, he came extremely close.
Yeah, yeah. I hope this guy makes it.
I mean, certainly for Argentina's sake, for Latin America's sake.
Yeah. No, we need Malaga.
We need Malaga.
We need Malaga. Let's hope that Sergei, Javier Millet can deliver it.
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You need to use the promo code DINESHDINESH. A friend, Mark Hauk, who is a dad of seven, I believe, a lovely guy, a pro-life activist, he's featured in Police State, he had his home raided by the FBI, and now Hauk and his wife are suing the FBI and the DOJ, seeking $4.3 million, and they're saying...
That was completely unnecessary, what you did to us.
They're saying that their seven children live in constant terror.
In fact, one of them has to be medicated.
They're saying that Mrs.
Hauck, Ryan Marie Hauck, says that she's had more than one miscarriage following this traumatic event.
And we show them in the movie, and we've recreated the Hauck raid for the opening scene.
In fact, we don't say it, but that's the opening scene of the film.
Right, right. You can see how for an ordinary guy to go through that must be downright horrifying and must leave scars.
And the FBI knows that.
They know that they're not going after hardened criminals.
They're going after someone who's a law-abiding guy.
In fact, Mark Huck makes a very telling observation in the film.
He goes, their intention after arresting me was to release me in the evening.
And he goes, think about that.
They just wanted to humiliate him.
Right. He goes, I'm not a threat.
I'm not going to flee.
I'm not a danger to society.
I'm not a hardened criminal.
They knew all that. So this whole thing was a massive exhibition of terrorism by the U.S. government.
I mean, I kind of wish I was on the jury of this case, because I would teach the government a lesson they would not quickly forget.
I would go for more than that.
No, absolutely. Juries can do that.
A jury can award whatever it wants.
And so, I mean, think of it.
Battering rams, ballistic shields, armor, long rifles.
No, it was all a show.
It was all a show.
It was all a show. Oh, and I forgot to mention, Ryan Murray Hauk says she's now infertile.
They've told us you cannot have more kids.
Now they have seven.
But nevertheless, I mean, just think about doing this to a family.
And both of them were at our premiere in Mar-a-Lago.
And it's interesting, you were talking about the difference in their personalities.
Mark Houck is like a rock.
Well, first of all, let's go back to the day that you interviewed him in the movie.
He walks in, he's very cordial, very jovial man, and you're like, Mark, I want you to be extremely emotional.
Well, I told you, I want you to describe what happened to you.
I want you to just let it go.
Put your feelings out there. Put your feelings out there.
I want people to see what happened.
And the interesting thing about those two, because Mark and Bevelin, B and Williams, were interviewed together.
Right. And they are both incredibly, incredibly God-fearing people.
They both are. They are. Yeah.
Yeah. And neither one of them had that like, oh, I'm defeated.
You know, oh, this has just destroyed me.
Even though Mark does talk about it destroying his family, his spirit is not destroyed.
And neither is Babylon's.
And so I said, you know, it really shows you that when you have Christ in your heart...
You're not afraid. You're just not afraid.
And even though you're talking about it like it happened to you and you're in the moment.
I mean, you're saying, Babylon is saying, I'm facing 15 years.
Yeah, yeah. Facing 15 years in prison, first of all, for nothing.
Right. Right. For accidentally slamming someone's...
She didn't. I don't think she slammed at all.
He didn't, but they claimed.
But they claimed she did, yeah. So, yeah.
So, anyway, but it's just incredible.
And so, Mark was extremely, you know, he was just like, yeah, that's right.
This happened. But you know what?
God is on my side.
And that, I could just see him beaming.
Yeah. Or that, you know?
The moral strength is really noticeable.
The moral strength is remarkable. Now, it's interesting that Mark Houck's lawyer went to the government.
He knew about the FACE Act.
That's how we got the footage.
Yes, we did. We got the footage from the lawyer.
But he went to the FBI and he said, listen, you don't need to raid the house.
If you plan on arresting Mark Houck, contact my office.
I will bring him in. So this is the key.
Exactly right. They offered to come in voluntarily and surrender, but the FBI didn't want that.
They wanted the shock and awe.
They wanted to terrorize the family.
And so this is real evil stuff.
This is terror.
This is state-sponsored.
You're talking about state-sponsored terrorism?
It is. This is state-sponsored terrorism by the U.S. government.
It is. Absolutely. And against a person.
And by the way, think about it.
He goes before the jury.
They take, what, an hour?
An hour. Not guilty.
Not guilty on all charges.
Yeah. Now, do you think, because obviously this was a jury that was probably comprised of a lot of liberals.
Yeah. Do you think that they saw right through the government's...
I think so. I think they saw that this is really not even about abortion.
Because I think if it was purely...
It wasn't even about the FACE Act.
It wasn't even about the FASAC, because it'd be one thing if they were escorting a troop of girls into the clinic and Mark Houck was like, drove his truck and blocked them from entering.
This was a case where someone was harassing his child.
Right. And he took...
I would have done the same thing.
As a parent, he became defensive of the guy.
I would have done the same thing.
But I mean, who charges somebody with offenses with 11 years in prison for pushing a guy?
But as you know, that was only the excuse to do what they did to him.
That was the excuse to do what they did to him.
But it's the ruthlessness of the police state that if they could have put him away for 11 years over a pushing incident, they would have.
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In our segment on the amusing, the extraordinary, and the bizarre, you have a story to tell about a, let's call it an out-of-control pilot, right?
You find this stuff and then you show it to me and you're like, can we do it?
I'm like, yeah, sure. This happened a few weeks ago, but when I saw it, I was like, oh my goodness, you know, because we love to watch airplane disasters.
Yeah. Well, we need to explain what we're talking about because we don't love to watch the disaster per se.
There are these airline shows which are sort of a detective show because typically the show is 45 minutes long and it begins with some kind of an airplane calamity.
True. By the way, beautifully recreated.
We just know as film guys, this is done where you feel like you're in the airplane.
Absolutely. And they go through what goes wrong.
In some cases, it's mechanical.
In some cases, it is related to pilot error.
But in any event, there is a calamity.
But the show really begins after that, because then they bring in these investigators.
And the key thing is to find out why modern airplanes, which are very well-made, which are very safe, in fact, they often say it's safer to be in a plane than on the highway driving, oh, it's a sort of an inquiry into what happened.
And it's actually very, it's very consoling to see that they do a very thorough job, in some cases, even recreating the exact circumstances.
I mean, the investigators will get in a plane, they will fly through a storm on that exact part of the ocean to test whether the theory is right.
Will the airplane fail under these conditions?
It's pretty remarkable to watch.
And that's the NTS? The NTS. BTSB. The National Transportation Safety Board.
And by the way, if this show is correct, it's one of the few government agencies that actually does some good.
Exactly. And they have brilliant, brilliant engineers.
They can literally, they know every aspect of the airplane.
They know all of the mechanical parts.
They know everything about an airplane.
And not only that, but I mean, they don't just know it.
They can look at a crash.
Yeah, and recreate it. And they can tell you based upon the debris, for example, did the plane explode in the air?
Yeah, the debris field. Or did it hit the ground and then explode?
Right. They also can look at just what seems to be just melted metal and tell you this goes right here, this goes right there.
Or put it back like a jigsaw puzzle.
Right. That's what they do. They sometimes reconstruct the whole plane.
All right, talk about this incident. Yeah, so anyway, so this is just one of those things that thankfully did not occur, but could have.
A near calamity. A near calamity.
this man, Joseph David Emerson, 44 years old, he is a pilot, but he wasn't one of the pilots.
He was in the jump seat. So he was just riding with them, right? But he was right there in the cockpit. And he tried to activate the jet's fire suppression system mid-flight while he was sitting in the cockpit. And it was a near catastrophic maneuver that left him facing 83 counts of of attempted murder.
What do you mean when you say that you tried to activate the fire?
Was he turning off the engine?
It would have immediately cut off the flow to the fuel of the engines.
That would cut off the engines.
Obviously, if you don't have engines mid-flight, you're going to fall.
So the idea is that if an airplane has a fire, then you can do that and you have to do that because you've got to put the fire out first.
When pulled, the valve in the wing closes to shut the fuel to the engine.
And it says that after they are pulled, some residual fuel remains in the line.
And the quick reaction of the crew to reset it restored the fuel flow and prevented it from stalling.
But I mean, what's interesting is, why would someone do that?
Okay, so they claim that this guy was just off his rocker.
Like, you know, there are some...
Because we've seen some of the disasters where...
We've seen some amazing... Where a pilot will pretend, like, tell the other pilot, why don't you go to the bathroom?
Then he locks the door, doesn't let anybody in.
And then he flies the plane into a mountain.
We've seen that, right?
We've seen that, yeah. So in this case, thankfully, the pilot and the co-pilot, the captain and the co-pilot...
Realized what had happened and they immediately, you know, tried to stop it.
But apparently this guy, they say, was just mentally like off his rocker.
So this wasn't a terrorist incident or something like that.
But nevertheless, but it's interesting they're charging him with attempted murder because I guess what they're saying is, number one, he's a pilot.
So he obviously knew what he was doing.
Right, right. It's not like someone, one of the passengers who accidentally pulled something.
No, no, no. And these are his charges. So he was booked, okay, on 83 counts of attempted murder in the first degree, 83 counts of reckless endangering another person, and one count of endangering an aircraft in the first degree. This guy faces a lot of years in prison.
Yeah. I mean, he does. Well, I mean, think of what could have happened.
So if they're able to show that he acted deliberately, which sounds like he did.
I mean, he might have been deranged, but deranged people can act deliberately.
Yeah, but I mean, look at deranged people that do mass shootings and then they shoot themselves or they kill themselves because they want to take everybody out.
They want to go out, but they want to take everybody out with them.
And that's kind of what this guy was doing.
Yeah. So, very scary.
I mean, we fly a lot.
So, every time we're in line and I see the pilots, I kind of check them out.
Do they look like they're okay?
Well, there have been a couple of cases where there have been plane crashes due to sheer exhaustion.
I mean, a pilot is doing so many legs in a day, and he comes and tries to take a nap, apparently, on the couch, but he's just drained.
And so as a result, then you go into a difficult situation, which requires the use of judgment.
Now, a lot of planes kind of fly themselves, but there are times when some judgment is needed.
And apparently, if you're mentally and physically exhausted, your faculties just aren't there.
And so you aren't able to make that, you don't have that discernment.
Right. And there have been terrible outcomes as a result.
We're in this remarkable chapter of the Gulag Archipelago where Solzhenitsyn is discussing the people who work in the prison camps.
And he gives very profound insight into their motivation, but also into human nature and the way that human nature is delicately poised between radical good and radical evil.
And at the same time, while he shows that, he emphasizes that it's not a simple matter of some human beings are on the side of the angels, other human beings turn themselves into devils.
He says that human nature itself has a mixture of both.
And so it's a matter of which side we choose to align with, sometimes on a given occasion.
Sometimes people who are decent in some aspects of their lives are extremely indecent in others.
And then there are other people who are indecent through and through.
So it's...
He's pointing out to the kind of dual nature of human beings and the kind of moral landscape that governs every human life.
Very fascinating stuff.
It rises above the specifics of the Soviet Gulag, and it's talking to all people at all times.
Now, here's Solzhenitsyn talking about the prison camp guards, the prison camp interrogators, and he says...
Excluded by the nature of their work and by deliberate choice from the higher sphere of human existence, he goes, the servitors of the blue institution, the so-called blue caps, live in a lower sphere with all the greater intensity and avidity.
Now, this is a very learned man writing in an ornate style and we need to slow it down to see what he's saying.
He's saying, look, these are guys for whom higher forms of piety or reflection, of study, of contemplation, they're not going to do any of that.
This is not even part of their life.
They live on the low plane of human existence.
So they don't try to think great thoughts.
They don't try to come up with new ideas.
They live on the sort of, they're driven by more base or elemental motives.
So what are those motives?
He says, they were possessed and directed by two of the strongest instincts of the lower sphere, greed for power and greed for gain.
Now, again here, I think Solzhenitsyn is making a universal point because think about it.
What motivates the police state in this country?
At the ordinary level, what is driving the bureaucrat?
And I'm not just talking about the bureaucrat at the top.
What about the bureaucrat at the bottom?
Think about what drives, for example, a meter maid, somebody who hands out tickets, or just a cop who hides at the turn of a pass, intercepts cars, and gives them tickets.
Now, what is that guy motivated by?
You can say, well, he's doing his job.
Yeah, true. What makes somebody want to do that job, like, really well?
I'm going to get him.
I'm going to catch every single guy.
They think they're smarter than me, but I'm actually smarter than them.
You know what it is? It's a desire to have, even if momentarily, a sense of power over another person.
The meter maid is like, that guy may be driving a Mercedes, but guess what?
I can stick him with a ticket.
It's going to ruin his day.
It's going to annoy him. He's going to have to write a check, send it in.
I'm able to hassle that guy.
And normally, I wouldn't be able to.
Normally, that guy wouldn't even look at me.
I wouldn't have one moment of that person's attention unless I can inflict some punishment, and then they have to take notice.
Similarly, the cop who's approaching, for example, the guy sitting in his car, think about it.
The cop typically walks up in a really slow walk.
Oh yes, hello.
If he takes 10 minutes to even get to you.
Why is that? Is it because it takes him 10 minutes to park his car and walk up to you?
No. It's that he wants to keep you sitting in a position of uneasiness for 10 minutes.
Oh, here I am. I've been pulled over.
What's the cop going to say to me?
Am I going to get a ticket for $50 or $500?
Do I have my insurance, by the way?
I thought I renewed it, but is it really in my glove compartment?
All of this is going through your mind.
And then the cop comes to talk to you and before he even says anything, you know, like your Adam's apple goes up and down your throat.
Why? Because you're just a little bit nervous.
And the cop knows that.
And the cop is like, yeah, that's why I became a cop.
In other words, part of the sense of power over you is what motivates the bureaucratic establishment.
Now, in many circumstances that kind of power is relatively benign, it's power at the service of some legitimate government objective, but here Solzhenitsyn says when you're dealing with a police state, that power can be unleashed in terrifying ways.
He goes on to say, Power is a poison well known for thousands of years.
If only no one were ever to acquire material power over others.
This is Solzhenitsyn being a little utopian.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a society where people just didn't exercise that kind of the power to control, to brutalize?
He goes, but to the human being who has faith in some force that holds dominion over all of us, and who is therefore conscious of his own limitations, power is not necessarily fatal.
Very interesting observation.
If you believe in a higher power, then God is sovereign over all of us.
Then even if you have temporary power over some other guy, you're not ultimately who's in charge.
So in that situation, says Solzhenitsyn, it's not necessarily fatal.
For those, however, who are unaware of any higher sphere, it is a deadly poison.
For them, he says, there is no antidote.
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