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Coming up, I'll say it's about time for Kevin McCarthy to begin an impeachment inquiry into the corruption of Joe Biden.
I'll review Julie Kelly's discovery about the lives of Capitol Hill Police Sergeant Aquilino Gonel.
I'll consider how Obama's chef ended up at the bottom of the lake.
And I'll argue that Netanyahu is not imperiling democracy in Israel since there are many different ways of organizing a democratic society.
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Impeachment may finally, finally be coming our way, and it is about time.
We're not really there yet, but we are getting there.
So, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy was on Hannity a day or so ago, and he said that he expects the investigations into the Biden family corruption to rise to the level of an impeachment inquiry.
Now, he didn't say he's beginning an impeachment inquiry.
He said that he expects that that's where it will go.
McCarthy was pretty eloquent on Hannity.
When Biden was running for office, he told the public he had never talked about business.
He said his family never received a dollar from China, which we prove is not true.
And then McCarthy goes on to refer to the IRS whistleblowers, to the House GOP investigations, and now quoting him, And then finally he goes on to say,
That this president has used something which we have not seen since Richard Nixon, using the weaponization of government to benefit his family and deny Congress the ability to have oversight.
Now, subsequently, McCarthy was pressed on this and he said, no, I'm not initiating impeachment now, but I was merely describing or maybe forecasting where I see things going.
And I want to argue why Impeachment is kind of the only way to go at this point.
There are a number of reasons.
The first is just the accumulation of evidence.
Evidence has been accumulating, but notice it's been accumulating from many different quarters.
So you've got the IRS whistleblowers over here.
You've got the FBI confidential informant over there.
You've got The business partners of Hunter Biden, Bobby Ulinski, you've now got Devin Archer testifying, I believe, next Monday before the House.
So it's all over the place here, and one of the advantages of an impeachment inquiry is it's like a trial.
It consolidates everything into one place.
Now, you might say, wait a minute, you've got the House already investigating.
Why take it to that level?
Well, because normally when the House finds evidence of wrongdoing, what does it do?
It refers to the Department of Justice.
It refers to the investigative arms of the FBI. But see, those are compromised.
Those are corrupted. You cannot expect Merrick Garland, kind of wingman and henchman for the Biden crime family, to say, okay, I'm going to look into this matter.
I mean, he's happy to say that, but he won't do it.
And similarly, the FBI is rotted now from the top, and who knows how far down the pole it goes.
So that is a hopeless situation.
Effort. So, the beauty of impeachment is that you can find out everything you need to find out and then decide if you want to file the articles of impeachment.
So, again, the impeachment inquiry is not quite the same as the articles of impeachment.
Usually, the one follows the other, but the impeachment inquiry lets you know if there are grounds, sufficient grounds, to...
To nail this corruption case and essentially take it to trial.
Now, the other advantage of an impeachment inquiry is that it allows Biden to defend himself.
Because if you look at the commentary, and I sometimes, on Twitter and other platforms, I'll kind of meander into the left-wing bubble or the left-wing universe and look to see what they're saying.
And they say things that was unproven, it's unsubstantiated.
Wait a minute, they haven't really heard from David Weiss, the Delaware prosecutor.
Or they haven't heard from...
They haven't heard from this guy, Lev Parnas, a former Ukrainian businessman who says that he doesn't see anything here or any corruption of any kind.
Well, okay, if all of that is true, this is a wonderful opportunity to now take the kind of The two separate universes, the universe of conservative examination and investigation and bank accounts and shell companies set up by the Biden's, take all of this stuff and match it up against what the Biden people have on their side.
If we're ignoring certain facts, let's see what those are.
So there's a kind of open-mindedness to it, this process, that I think is actually very healthy, because we're living in a country where we say one thing, they say something else, and it's like two ships passing in the night.
So this is a moment, and it's important for Kevin McCarthy to see this.
That things tend to, even though an investigation is ongoing, at some point things will stall.
Why? The media doesn't cover it.
The Democrats keep poo-pooing it.
The Justice Department does nothing.
And so Republicans at some point have got to ratchet it up.
There's only one place to go, and that is sort of upward.
And the impeachment inquiry is, I think, a moral, a political, and even a legal imperative.
I'm glad Kevin McCarthy sees that things are headed in that direction, but we don't just need Kevin McCarthy to play Nostradamus.
He is actually a person who is in the position to sort of midwife, to move ahead this process.
And I think if he does this, he will bring the vast majority of the House members with him, at least the vast majority of Republicans with him.
So my message to Kevin McCarthy is, it's time.
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I want to talk about January 6th and the lies of Officer Aquilino Gonel.
Now, do you remember this guy?
He testified before the Congress and he testified before the January 6th committee.
He was a very emotional, tearful guy, and he made a whole bunch of very concrete claims.
First of all, he said that he had suffered near-death injuries on January 6th.
He said he had injuries, blows to his head, his shoulder, his hand.
He had foot injuries.
These were so egregious that he required both medical leave and surgery, not to mention that he suffered mental health trauma.
And this is not just something that he said to the J6 committee.
He also said this in court.
He said he was, quote, bleeding from both hands.
He had a maimed foot.
He was hit on the head. He was sprayed with pepper and bear spray, beaten, punched, pushed, pulled, and assaulted by many other riders as they tried to gain entrance.
He also testified that he provided...
Help? Assistance to Roseanne Boyland before she died.
This is the woman who died in the tunnel.
Her body was then dragged out.
He said he tried to save her.
Now, it turns out that all these statements are false.
And by false, I mean they are contradicted by video.
Video that was suppressed and withheld by the January 6th committee.
Video that has now been made available.
And it's Julie Kelly who's been painstakingly going through this video.
And try to imagine, here's Julie doing this largely by herself.
There may be one or two other journalists who are also doing the same thing.
But the January 6th Committee had immense resources to go through all this stuff.
But of course, their goal was to promote an ideological narrative and to suppress information that contradicted that narrative.
So now Julie Kelly has released a video and you can watch it on social media.
I've shared it on my Twitter, for example.
And you can take a good look.
First of all, you can see Officer Gonel.
You can see his hands. This is, by the way...
This is, by the way, after Roseanne Boylan's death and after the protest and violence ended.
So any injuries, any harm that he got, you should be able to see it on him.
You see his hands?
They show no signs of injury.
They seem completely normal.
Nor do you see him at any point...
Beaten, punched, pushed, pulled, and assaulted by other riders.
This is all nonsense. You don't even see him bear sprayed.
You can see him for several minutes near the body of Roseanne Boyland, but he's offering no assistance.
And so his idea, he tried to save her.
He does not try to save her.
And then you can see his shoulder.
He takes off his gear and his shoulder is perfectly fine.
So it turns out that this guy is, it seems, at least from the video, a complete fabricator.
A makeup artist.
Not in the sense that he does your makeup, but he makes stuff up.
And not only does he make stuff up in his testimony before the January 6th committee, but then he makes stuff up when he goes before the media.
The... The media, after the fact, Gonel goes on CNN, and he's tearful.
You can even see he appears to be overwhelmed with emotion.
He can barely speak.
And so you get the idea that this guy is really, well, he's kind of an actor.
But he's a very good actor.
It's almost as if he's an actor who was drafted for this role.
It's hard to believe this guy was even a policeman who maybe took acting lessons on the side.
And then once Republicans took over the House, what happened to Officer...
Well, I guess he's a police sergeant, Gonell.
He promptly retires.
Why does he retire? Because it takes him out of circulation.
Now it's difficult to...
He's no longer representing the Capitol Police.
He's no longer in his official capacity, so he can duck.
We want you to come talk about this.
Well, no, I'm now retired.
I really don't want to do that.
So he took himself out of the limelight.
But that didn't stop him from going on Jake Tapper.
And he repeats the same old story.
Number one, I was beaten.
I suffered all these injuries.
I needed medical leave.
I needed medical attention.
I needed surgery. And then also, I tried really hard to save Roseanne Boyland.
Julie Kelly points out, this is her tweet, here's Gonel, who appears to have suffered no physical injuries, tearfully telling CNN. And then she also points out that here he is for several minutes near the body of Roseanne Boyland after the protest and violence ended.
No signs of injury.
And then she also says that...
That there is no video of him attempting to resuscitate her at any point.
And video of Roseanne's lifeless body, this is at minute 427 of the clip, does not show Gonel anywhere in her vicinity.
So, you know, this is a case where the videotape finally, think about it, think how far we are from January 6th and only now the video is surfacing.
Only now do you have people on our side, let's call it the skeptical side of the aisle, able to look at this video and guess what?
It confirms what we have long suspected, what we have often argued, that the facts of January 6th are different from the mainstream media narrative.
They're different from what the January 6th committee said, and they're certainly different from what Officer Aquilino Gonel has said.
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There's a really weird story just came out about Obama's personal chef drowning while paddle boarding in Martha's Vineyard.
So the Obamas have a home in Martha's Vineyard and I've talked about their home before.
In fact, I've talked about it in a somewhat different context.
The Obamas paid, what, $12 million for the home and at the same time, Obama's warning that the sea coasts are rising all over the world and that the oceans are going to overwhelm the land and I'm thinking, well, if all that is the case, why would you buy a seafront property on Martha's Vineyard?
So, to me, it tells you that Obama says these things that even he doesn't believe.
In fact, no one believes.
Real estate agents wouldn't sell property in Martha's Vineyard if they knew that all of this is going to be covered by the ocean.
Buyers wouldn't buy.
Sellers would have to drop their prices dramatically, if not close to zero.
After all, this is going to be a worthless property in no time.
But in any event, the Obamas had this property, and this guy...
This chef is a guy named Tafari Campbell, 45 years old, and he apparently worked for the Obamas at the White House.
And the Obamas say, well, we really liked him.
Well, let me just quote the Obamas in a statement that they released to AP. When we first met him, he was a talented sous chef at the White House, creative and passionate about food and its ability to bring people together.
And then after they left in 2016, the Obamas hired him.
They go, okay, well, come with us and be our personal chef.
And so, quote,"...in the years that followed, we got to know him as a warm, fun, extraordinary, kind person who made our lives a little brighter." So what happened to this guy?
Well, this Tafari Campbell was apparently paddleboarding, and he was paddleboarding in water that isn't all that deep.
It's about 8 feet.
Now, in theory, somebody who has no idea how to swim can fall into water that's 8 feet.
It's obviously taller than he is.
And so he could, in theory, have drowned.
But two things are really strange about this.
Number one, first, apparently his drowning was observed by another guy.
So there's a witness who saw him sort of go under and then kind of splash a bit to the surface and then go under again.
And who this witness is, this person has not been named.
The police haven't disclosed who the individual is or precisely what he or she saw.
So first you've got this sort of oddity of the witness who happened to be there but presumably couldn't do anything to help.
The other thing is that a bunch of videos have surfaced showing that this Tafari Campbell is actually a very fine swimmer.
I see these videos. Not only does he do the normal freestyle swimming, but you see him doing the backstroke.
So the idea that somebody who knows how to swim, who's doing something as benign as paddle boarding, who clearly does not seem to have suffered any kind of injury.
It's one thing if you hit your head on something and then you know how to swim, but hey, guess what?
You're knocked unconscious and so the water takes you in.
No, it seems like here you've got a guy on a paddleboard, he falls off, he knows how to swim, and he drowns in 8-foot water.
And he drowns, by the way, right near the Obamas' property.
So, what's going on here?
Now, the Obamas evidently were, or at least reportedly, were away.
Continuing their statement, they say, our hearts are broken that he is gone.
And news reports, I've seen some news reports claiming that this guy doesn't know or didn't know how to swim.
As I say, those are contradicted by videos that are now in social media showing that he absolutely does know.
How to swim. Now, there are people, and this is to be expected, pointing out that Hillary Clinton's chef also met a kind of unexpected and untimely death.
So, you know, the sarcastic comments on social media to the effect of, what are the odds?
You have Hillary Clinton's chef...
And you have Obama's chef who also dies under circumstances that kind of make no sense.
And of course, there are a lot of people around Clinton who have died and their deaths make no sense.
And I've seen some speculation, and I've got to say it's mere speculation at this point, that this guy...
Was apparently thinking about writing or doing some kind of memoir or giving interviews in which he talked about his time with the Obamas, both at the White House and after the White House.
Now, I do not know if any of this is true.
And so, while people say, and sometimes this is one of the limitations of social media, I mean, we're in a bad situation.
We can't trust the mainstream media.
They report stuff, but it's false, and they don't report stuff that's true.
And then in social media, you see things that are, well, I'll call them suspect.
You'll see someone go, breaking!
Obama chef scheduled or was reportedly getting ready to testify, but...
How do we know this? How do you know he was getting ready to testify?
Who was he getting ready to talk to?
Is it the case that he had somehow had a falling out with the Obamas?
Is it the case that he was going to say something incriminating?
We don't know any of this.
So it may well be that this is just one of those freak accidents that sometimes happens and can be left at that.
But since it involves Obama, and Obama is about as duplicitous a character as you're going to find this side of the Nile.
I never take things at face value.
Almost everything that he says is twisted, manipulated, and in some fundamental way, untrue.
And it may very well be the case that that is also going on here.
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Feel the difference. The Biden administration is very unhappy with Israel for a bunch of reasons, but most recently over something that is happening inside of Israel's domestic politics.
And this is very interesting that you have the US government trying to pressure Israel In this case, not to do something that it wants to do.
Biden has not been happy with Netanyahu for a while.
It looks like the Democratic Party as a whole is moving away from its, at one point, unwavering commitment to Israel.
Israel at one point enjoyed pretty much of a bipartisan support in the United States with both parties, but swearing their undying loyalty to Israel.
And now the Democrats are pulling away from that and edging more toward a, if not a pro-Palestinian position, then a kind of a, as they see it, a more balanced position on Israel.
And one guy that the Democrats don't like and Biden doesn't like is Netanyahu.
Netanyahu, who has been the dominant figure now in Israeli politics for well over a decade, has had a very long tenure in power.
He was pushed away, pushed out of the prime minister position, but then he found his way back as a result of the most recent election.
He has a coalition government, so he doesn't, his own party by itself is not strong enough to have a majority.
So he's allied with some of these other religious parties, and in some cases, ultra-Orthodox parties, to form this governing coalition.
Now, Biden decided not to invite Netanyahu to come visit the White House since his re-election last year.
And this was actually a big snub because it's almost a formality.
A new prime minister is elected in Israel.
Netanyahu In this case, of course, the Prime Minister was there before, but nevertheless newly elected.
It's customary for that guy to be invited and usually given a big fanfare in the United States.
And so the Israeli public is always wary when this does not happen because it asks whether this means some kind of tension or perhaps even breaking of the so-called special relationship between the United States and Israel.
Well, What is upsetting the Biden people more than anything else right now is a new law passed in Israel by a pretty slim majority that changes the powers of the Supreme Court.
Oh, we can't believe that Netanyahu is doing that in Israel.
They're trying to do that here.
There are all kinds of efforts by Democrats to try to impose new rules on the Supreme Court, install new ethics guidelines, limit the powers of the court, add new justices.
So this kind of feigned outrage that somehow Netanyahu is threatening democracy by changing the role of the court.
Well, first of all, there are many kinds of democracy.
There's parliamentary democracy of the kind that, by the way, England has and Canada has and Australia has and Israel has.
The most powerful figure is not the president, it's the prime minister.
And then there's the sort of presidential system that we have here in the United States where the president is the most important figure.
So democracy is a broad term that can be kind of institutionalized or organized in many different ways.
Now, all democratic societies have elections.
Israel has elections.
They govern, by and large, by majority rule.
They elect representatives to vote in their stead.
This is all happening in Israel.
There's no doubt about it.
So the real issue here is what is the specific power of Of the elected government vis-a-vis the unelected Supreme Court.
In the United States, as you know, the Supreme Court acts as a kind of check on the Democratic majority and should.
The job of the Supreme Court is to protect individual rights even when states and the federal government try to trample on them.
So, in that sense, the court has a defined role, but the defined role gains its authority from the Constitution.
And so, a law can be unconstitutional.
Why? Because the Constitution, the written word and the meaning of the Constitution contradicts what this law says or what this law gives the government the power to do.
Now, interestingly, in Israel, the Supreme Court doesn't function quite that way.
It has justices Who don't go through the process that we have in the United States, where they're nominated, where they are approved by the Senate through a process of advice and consent.
You don't have that.
You find left-wing activists who end up on the Supreme Court through a kind of self-perpetuating process.
The existing justices appoint replacements.
So this is problematic because it suggests that the court could become a kind of in-house mafia.
And the other thing is that the court has the amazing ability or had the amazing ability to strike down laws because they are, quote, unreasonable.
Now, this to me is a joke.
The idea that you would give an unelected body the chance to just, we think it's unreasonable.
You've passed a law raising taxes, we think it's unreasonable.
You've passed a law giving certain people immunity for military service, we think it's unreasonable.
Well, first of all, it doesn't make any sense in a democratic society to give people the power to proclaim godlike.
This will not fly.
And so this is really what the new law does, is it removes the power of the Supreme Court on the sole ground of reasonableness.
Who gets... Who made them the arbiters of reasonableness in all of Israel?
So, this is not an attack on democracy by Netanyahu.
To me, it is the alteration of a very stupid provision in Israel's system that gives the court a kind of untrammeled authority to strike down laws, not because they violate the Constitution, not because they contradict some supreme law or written text, but solely because a group of In some cases, self-perpetuatingly appointed activists decide, we think this is unreasonable.
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Hey guys, I'd like to welcome to the podcast a new guest.
His name is Mark Hancock, and he's the CEO, the Chief Executive Officer of We're going to talk about Trail Life USA. He's also an author, an award-winning writer, a conference speaker.
He has two master's degrees in mental health counseling, and he has also taught at both secular and Christian colleges.
By the way, the website, traillifeusa.com.
Mark, welcome to the podcast.
Great to have you.
Let me start by talking about, you know, the Boy Scouts.
Because the Boy Scouts have been around, if I'm right in my history, it was started by this guy Baden Powell in England.
And then I know there was scouting in India where I grew up.
It became something popular all over the world.
It seemed like a lot of parents would sign their sons up to be Boy Scouts because they felt this will help to...
You know, make you a man, because there are things you might learn in school, but there are things you can also learn in the outdoors about maybe survival and camaraderie and maybe how to tie some knots and how to go on a hike.
And all of this was part of the esprit de corps of scouting, and it all seemed to be going very well, and then it all fell apart.
Talk a little bit about the Boy Scouts, what they accomplished over the years, and then what went wrong.
Well, first of all, thank you, Janice, for having me on.
You know, it's a storied organization, an amazing American ideal organization.
Over 100 years they've given us presidents and generals and leaders and civic leaders and astronauts, and it was the organization that was building good, strong men.
And beautiful storied past.
But in 2014, they started to discuss some of these.
In 2013, they started talking about abandoning some of those more traditional values and moving towards an organization that was more palatable with this rising woke crowd.
And when they began to set loose of those moorings, we just really saw the organization just begin to fall apart.
And so we were founded in the, we were forged in the cultural fires of that time.
And so we structured ourselves in a very different way from Boy Scouts.
But what an amazing organization has given us all these incredible men.
They had the secret sauce.
For turning boys into good, strong men.
And for some reason they decided that just wasn't going to be the direction they were going to go for the future.
Mark, it seems that when this sort of thing happens, and we've seen it happen to other institutions, it's a two-part process.
The organization gets targeted by a left-wing lobbying enterprise that begins to make accusations.
Oh, you're racist, or you're exclusive, or you're this and that.
And then the second part of it is how the organization responds.
And it seems like what happened here is that the left realized that the Boy Scouts, at least in the kind of values and character that they develop, are conservative.
So let's target them.
Let's run them into the ground.
Let's attack them as exclusionary.
And it must be that the Boy Scouts had, and it's so ironic because they're supposed to teach leadership.
They're supposed to teach character.
But they had weak leaders who basically go, yeah, we don't want to be attacked in the New York Times.
If I'm getting you correctly, they began to bend their rules, in a sense, defeating and destroying what was unique about the Boy Scouts.
And then it became, why join the Boy Scouts at all?
There's nothing distinctive that they're providing that we can't get 10 other ways in the culture.
Yeah. Well, it's actually more tragic than that, because that may be the story that we anticipate, that they were under such pressure to bring about these changes that they had to.
That wasn't the case.
They had Supreme Court decisions in their favor.
This was an inside job.
This was a desire on their part to be part of this movement, to sit at the table with the people they wanted to sit at the table with.
So, even against the wishes of their members who voted...
And overwhelmingly against making the types of changes they began to make, they made these changes, telling the troops, this is the best for you, and this is the best for us going forward.
So it was voluntary.
And that's the tragic part of it, is that they abandoned...
The boys who had this wonderful storied organization that was standing up for them and represented them, and they left them without that voice, without that organization, without that opportunity to really grow in those things.
So that's a tragic piece.
Certainly they had pressures, but listen, you know, we all have pressures, and you're right.
They're an organization of courage, of raising men, strong men and traditional men who would charge the beaches of Normandy and free the world of tyranny and sit on top of a rocket and go to the moon or...
This was the type of man that they're building, and yet at the top, they folded on this very simple challenge to be brave.
And when they abandoned that sort of stance, that was the beginning of the unraveling of the organization.
Let's take a pause when we come back more with Mark Hancock, who has an organization that may be doing what the Boy Scouts were once set up to do, but are doing no longer.
It's called Trail Life USA. The website, traillifeusa.com.
We'll be right back.
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He's the CEO of Trail Life USA. By the way, you can follow him on Twitter at Trail Life USA. The website, TrailLifeUSA.com Mark, as we do a sort of post-mortem, if you will, on the Boy Scouts,
was it really the gay issue of the gay scout leaders, or was it rather the Boy Scouts can't be a male-only organization, they have to admit women, which was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back, or was it just kind of one thing on top of another, and ultimately the whole underlying rationale became dissolved?
Yeah, they had a six or seven year period where they were taking these steps sequentially.
And it was predicted, one of our first employees was the former general counsel for the Boy Scouts of America.
He wrote their new policy under duress and then was fired.
And we hired him.
So we had somewhat of an inside look into what was going on.
So their first step was to allow open and void and avowed homosexual boys.
Now, of course, there's homosexual boys in every organization.
We likely have them in trail life.
But the challenging piece was, what are our churches and what are our churches going to do with an open and avowed homosexual boy?
Where do you tent him?
How do you deal with him? How do you manage this new thing in the organization?
That was their first step.
And we knew it was going to be difficult for, of course, we're a Christian organization.
It would be difficult for our churches to continue to charter a Boy Scout troop under this requirement that you acknowledge that boy's sexuality.
And so that was the first thing they did, but it was predicted by our legal counsel.
After that, they will then have to allow open and valid leaders.
They started out with just boys, but there's no way you're going to have a boy who turns 18.
He's open and valid homosexual. Now he's 18.
Now he's an adult in the organization.
Sorry, you got to get out.
No, they knew that they would have to go to the next step.
So about a year and a half, two years later, they went to the next step to open without leaders.
And then the next step was transgender because that's the way that the culture was going.
And then finally, and honestly, this is the decision that they made that brought the most impact to Trail Off USA, as if that wasn't enough, this decision to allow girls into the program.
So you had adults and families and parents who, they may have been able to tolerate these other sort of woke changes, but it just did not make sense to them that you're putting girls in a boys' organization.
And that brought the most growth to Trail of USA. There's still one more...
Change that we've predicted that they're doing in this progression, so we expect them to remove God from their oath because they've redefined God.
Now, He's not the Judeo-Christian God.
He is the God of your choice. But we believe that they will take God completely out of the oath as they just continue down this path to this new woke organization.
Well, this is a classic example of how in so many areas of the culture now, people are going to be looking for alternatives, right?
I mean, you can't take your kids to Disney anymore, but we need to take our kids to someplace that's like Disney that they can enjoy and learn and go on rides and things like that.
And it looks like you figured out that you need an alternative organization that is firmly anchored, that sort of hasn't lost its spine and hasn't lost its soul, and that is Trail Life USA. So tell us about Trail Life USA. What is it?
What are its underlying principles?
And what are the sort of activities that it does?
Sure. Well, we're a Christ-centered, boy-focused character leadership and adventure organization that uses the outdoors to turn boys into good, strong men.
We're all 50 states, have over 1,000 troops, 50,000 members now participating in Trail Life USA, growing like a weed, continuing to grow because our parents just say, yeah, we want that.
We frequently hear former Boy Scouts come to Trail Life and say, yeah, Ideally, Boy Scouts, Boy Scouts left me, and Trail Life is continuing the path of the original vision of the founders of Boy Scouts to provide this conservative organization of values that stands on things like convictions and truth and can actually point to absolutes in terms of truth and things we believe in, the exceptionalism of our country and things like that.
That is making sense with parents.
Even parents of no faith.
Are saying, I want my side in an organization that has values that align with what I think makes young men successful.
And so what Boy Scouts has done by allowing girls, and now they're not separate troops, they're co-ed troops, is they've given boys another place where...
They are being compared to girls.
And in our culture today, boys are twice as likely to be in special education, three times more likely to be ADHD. They've fallen behind girls in every single academic category.
They're leading in suicides, 10 to 14 years old, fastest growing demographic as boys, leading in men's suicides, four out of five suicides committed by men, leading in drug abuse, leading in prisons, leading in so many other ways.
But we understand that the wonder and the marvel of a boy It's not a social construct.
It's the truth. And so we acknowledge that in Trail Life.
So we guide boys by giving them good, strong male mentors.
We ground them by giving them absolute truths.
We appreciate them by saying, we understand that you're different.
We've created an organization that recognizes those differences.
And we inspire them by giving them good, lofty goals, things that they can do that are hard, so that they can try at something, perhaps fail, but get up and try again and succeed.
So through that proven process, we are turning boys into good, strong men.
As far as activities goes, it's everything you would expect from an outdoor organization with boys.
Hiking, camping, fishing, whitewater rafting, all those things that boys do.
Boys come for the adventure.
Parents are there because of the character and leadership opportunities we provide for their sons.
It sounds awesome, Mark, and congratulations on the work you're doing.
Folks, check it out. It's Trail Life USA, and the website is traillifeusa.com.
Mark Hancock, thanks so much for joining me.
Thank you, my friend. God bless.
South Africa is a total mess.
It's a society that is devolving into chaos.
Possibly into certain forms of strife.
There is enormous racial tension.
Now, a good deal of that, a legacy of apartheid and of the past.
But the problem is that South Africa, which has now been an independent country since the 1990s, apartheid essentially collapsed right around the same time as the Soviet Union collapsed.
And South Africa has gone nowhere since then.
Now, this is almost enough to give support and comfort to racists because racists would say, listen, South Africa was built by the whites.
That's how it became one of the most, if not the most affluent country in Africa.
And now, admittedly, the whites were keeping those benefits and privileges for themselves, though the blacks lived in So-called Bantustans, and they were segregated away from the white world.
That was the meaning of apartheid, sort of separate development of each of the racial groups.
And the leading group in South Africa was not the whites who were descended from England, but the Afrikaners.
These are the whites who are descended from the Dutch.
And the Afrikaners ran the apartheid system Which was opposed by the Black leader Nelson Mandela.
And once apartheid fell, Mandela became kind of an international superstar.
In fact, there are statues and portraits and there's a kind of lionizing of Mandela that's gone on ever since.
You'll find statues to him in Washington, D.C., in Havana, in Beijing, in France, and so on.
And of course, there are statues to him and roads named after him and schools named after him all over South Africa.
Except that now, if you mention the word Mandela in South Africa, basically people begin to laugh.
They begin to jeer. They are not fans of Nelson Mandela.
This is a big embarrassment for the New York Times.
There's an article, Mandela goes from hero to scapegoat.
South Africa struggles.
And the basic idea here is that South Africa is doing poorly.
They're blaming Mandela.
Well, a scapegoat is someone who has nothing to do with the problem but is somehow being unfairly blamed.
But of course, the point of view of a lot of South Africans, especially young South Africans, is that Mandela is to blame.
Now, why do they think that Mandela is to blame?
Basically, they think Mandela is to blame because what Mandela did was he ended apartheid, or he was the leader in ending apartheid, but he didn't take the wealth away from the whites and give it to the blacks.
And so Mandela's failure, at least according to this article, there are a bunch of quotes to this effect.
In fact, at one point, you have a young activist saying, quote, about Mandela, he didn't revolt against white people.
I would have taken revenge.
And so, I think, oddly enough, that this is the mentality that is sinking South Africa.
And what I mean by that is that for any society, the way to success is to figure out wealth creation.
Wealth creation is the great challenge of any society.
And let's remember that it's not an easy challenge.
Why? Because For many, many centuries, most societies did not create wealth.
If you look, for example, let's just take Western civilization, and you look at the West in, say, the 4th century AD, and then you return in the 7th century AD, you have some minor improvements in agricultural techniques and so on.
But by and large, the level of wealth, the level of poverty is exactly the same.
Why? Because the West had not figured out how to make wealth grow.
China. If you look at China, for example, in 1850, 1910, 1940, you're looking at the same society.
Very little change and certainly very little growth.
Why? Because China hadn't figured out how to do wealth creation.
Now, interestingly, in South Africa, there was wealth creation, but there was wealth creation that was limited to the whites.
And I think Mandela's failure is one very different from what these activists in South Africa say.
It's not that Mandela didn't have revenge, because the problem with the African National Congress, which is the leading group in South Africa since Mandela—he was a member of the African and ultimately the leader of the African National Congress— Their only policy is let's go find other guys who have wealth and steal it from them.
Let's go to white farmers and grab their farms.
Let's go beat people up and take their stuff.
So kind of organized robbery is the only way that South Africa is operating.
And now you have blackouts.
Now you have farms that are not producing anything.
Now you have people who get murdered in their beds in the middle of the night.
So it's a total mess.
Mandela's failure, in my opinion, was different.
The focus in South Africa should have been to take the wealth creation techniques that had worked for the Whites and extend them to the Blacks, so that ultimately you get a prosperous society, a bigger pie, more to go around, and then you don't have to go You know how to build skyscrapers.
You know how to introduce technology on a wide scale.
So South Africa's failure, really, to me, is the failure of a society that was moderately advanced, advanced in a kind of narrow sector.
Only the whites were the beneficiary of that advance, now regressing into a certain kind of primitive And of course, the old barbaric way of tribes is to raid another tribe, steal their cattle, steal their stuff, kill the people over there so you can take their land.
And this is the mentality that the African National Congress has regrettably been encouraging to the detriment of South Africa with perhaps even worse to come.
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