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WILL IT BACKFIRE? Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep600
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Coming up, I'll go into some of the details of the Trump indictment and spell out the political implications of this Biden-DOJ hit on the leading Republican contender.
I'll talk about how a State Department planned to evacuate Americans from Taiwan.
Is this a grim view of China's plans?
And author Peachy Keenan joins me.
We're going to talk about how Starbucks seems to have dumped some of its pride paraphernalia and how to defeat woke propaganda in the schools and in the culture.
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Donald Trump went into court yesterday and was arraigned on these 30-plus charges.
He commented afterward, at least in an email to his email list, that he is facing upwards of 100 years in prison.
I mean, just think of the madness of this.
And of course, what he's doing is he's taking all the multiple charges and adding up all the penalties.
Now, it doesn't quite play out that way.
But still, I think what he's saying is that, look, This regime, this Biden regime, this Biden DOJ, is trying to put him away for life.
Now, they would probably be content if he agreed not to run again.
They want to put him out of contention.
That is their real goal.
But look at the relentlessness with which they move.
And I say this because we as Republicans, as conservatives, need to realize that this is what we are up against.
Trump is very much here at the Poster boy, if you will, for the vengefulness of the left.
And he is a stand-in.
He said this at rallies before.
A stand-in, really, for the rest of us.
I noticed in my own case, going back now to 2013 or so, that, hey, you know, if the Obama regime at that point could have put me away for 10 years, let's just say, for a contribution, my money, of $20,000 over the campaign finance limit, they would have. So it really shows that these people are not about proportionality, fairness, the same treatment that everybody else gets.
They don't even think this way.
They think of law as an instrument of power.
And that's how we need to think about it as we go up against them.
Now... Trump with his usual aplomb.
And this in itself is kind of admirable because, you know, think about it.
A man at his age facing this kind of...
First of all, he's facing a bunch of felonies in New York.
Now he's facing more felonies, maybe more to come in Georgia.
Here's a guy who would normally be really dispirited.
We know that this kind of stuff does get to him.
He's human in that sense.
Debbie asked him, in fact, when we met with Trump, this was in, what, honey, 2019.
She's like, does this stuff get to you?
I mean, at that point, we were just talking about the media.
We were talking about the threats of impeachment.
And we kind of expected, at least a little part of me, expected Trump to go, ha, ha, ha, this doesn't get to me.
These people are nuts, and so on.
And they are nuts, but they're also dangerous nuts.
And Trump was like, you know, he goes, I gotta confess, I mean, yeah, it does get to me.
And he goes, it's because...
Ultimately, it shows that the country is in bad shape.
And that's really what's motivating Trump to do what he does for the country and to face this kind of an assault on really what have to be called pretexts.
What's the real offense here?
He slow-walked a bunch of documents.
And so... For this, he's facing indictment and incarceration.
Meanwhile, Biden is collecting tens of millions of dollars in bribes from international agents and foreign entities, including adversary powers.
And all of that is skipped over.
Notice how little media coverage there is of that.
Very, very telling. Now...
After the arraignment, what does Trump do?
He stops into a cafe in, I guess, Miami-Dade.
And it looks like there were a bunch of people, Trumpsters, many of them seems Cuban-American, there to greet him.
And you could see the affection that there was between Trump and all these guys.
And they are, it's not just that they think he's being wrong, they really like the guy.
And in one kind of very telling scene, they all huddle around him and begin to pray for him.
Now, it's funny, this was shown on CNN, and Jake Tapper was reacting kind of like someone had sprinkled holy water on him.
He was like, ah! He's like, I can't see this.
I can't see this. And it gives you an idea, really, of how these people are so freaked out.
They're freaked out not only by Trump's continuing appeal.
Remember, they have been pounding this guy nonstop now for, what, six years?
And evidently to no effect, at least for these Trump supporters, it hasn't really gotten through at all.
In fact, arguably their affection for him has increased.
Now, One point that's worth making here is that if this happened in any other country, the United States would call it despotism.
Think of it. If in El Salvador, or if in Nigeria, or if in India, the Indian Prime Minister Modi rounded up the leading candidate from the Congress Party...
In fact, let's just say someone who had previously been Prime Minister and decided to indict them and charge them.
Not just the United States, but the United Nations, many other countries, all the different freedom groups around the world would be like...
No, this is a sign that this country is sliding into despotism.
We've seen that in Myanmar and other places.
Remember in Brazil, when Lula da Silva was arrested, charged with crimes, actually convicted, but later that conviction overturned, there was a lot of talk around the world that Brazil was sliding into despotism because, after all, Lula had been the prime minister.
And so this idea of locking up the primary figures of either party...
It's seen as a kind of no-no, at least not without absolutely grave circumstances.
Clear-cut violations, clear-cut cases of bribery, selling secrets to foreign powers.
And again, when you lay out these grave accusations, they apply to Biden.
They don't apply to Trump.
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the Mar-a-Lago raid and And so the first question, because the Mar-a-Lago raid was the way in which the government, the DOJ, obtained this evidence then leading to these multiple indictments against Trump.
So, was the Mar-a-Lago raid legitimate?
Now, a very interesting figure has surfaced, surprising, to say that it was not.
And that is a guy named Stephen D. Antonuo.
Now, you might remember this guy's name.
I've mentioned him on the podcast before.
Who is this guy? Well, he was the head of the Detroit office of the FBI. He was actually in charge of the FBI investigation of the Whitmer kidnapping.
In fact, he was considered such a specialist, you could say in the FBI framing people, that he was brought to Washington, D.C. and put in charge of January 6th.
So, this guy, Stephen D'Antonio, is the connection between the Whitmer kidnapping and January 6th.
So, certainly to my mind and probably to a lot of other people's minds, a really bad guy.
And yet this very same guy, and this is how complicated the world is, has apparently written a letter that is now available to the House Oversight Committee, and in the letter he goes, this Mar-a-Lago raid is completely out of line.
He says, I objected to it, and he objected to it not just in generic terms, why are we raiding the former president, but he objected to it in terms of the FBI's own rules and procedures.
So let's look at...
Some of his objections.
His first objection is, the Miami field office did not conduct the search.
And the FBI works now through field offices.
And even if a directive comes from Washington, typically if the raid is in Miami, the Miami field office is like, you guys do the raid.
But in this case, they told the Miami field office not to do the raid.
They were going to do it.
And it was going to be handled...
Out of Washington, D.C. So the first point...
That Stephen DeAntonio is making is that this is not according to procedure.
Number two, the department did not assign a U.S. Attorney's Office to the matter.
Again, if you're prosecuting a case, let's just say in Pennsylvania, you typically approach the U.S. Attorney in Pennsylvania.
That's the guy who takes charge of the case.
He might coordinate again with Washington, D.C., but it's the U.S. Attorney on site that conducts the operation.
This, again, was not done.
So right away, Stephen DeAntonio was saying this is being handled in a very unusual way.
And when he objected through the process, he was told that, no, the National Security Division of the Washington, D.C. FBI, this guy named Jay Bratt, who's head of the department's counterintelligence division, he would be the lead prosecutor on the case.
This was not going to involve the U.S. attorney in Miami or really anywhere else.
Number three, the FBI did not seek consent to effectuate the search.
And then number four, connected with that, the FBI refused to wait for President Trump's attorney to be present before executing the search.
Now again, Stephen D'Antonio was saying is, we have done a lot of raids.
Raids are done according to a certain type of formula.
And the formula is work with the local FBI office, consult the local U.S. attorney, give the person a chance to consent first.
If they don't consent, you might still do the raid, but at least ask them first.
Can I come search your facility?
If they say yes, think of it.
It's a lot easier. It's a lot safer.
There's Secret Service at Mar-a-Lago.
You're just going to show up with weaponry.
And who knows what can happen?
So the point being, this is FBI protocol and protocol was clearly not followed.
And finally, the issue about the attorney is important because Trump is entitled to representation.
Now, there was in fact an attorney on the scene, Christina Bob, but she is not a criminal defense attorney.
She's basically a sort of a A personal attorney for Trump.
And she came on the podcast, in fact, after the Mar-a-Lago search and described the search.
But I remember her saying specifically, I was not allowed to accompany the people who were doing the search.
In other words, they told me the search was going on.
I could be there, but I was not allowed in the building and at the scene when the search was going on.
So I was essentially removed from the premises of the search itself.
So all of this is a way of saying that this has not been handled in a conventional, which is to say, in a proper manner.
And all of this will be interesting to see when all of this goes before the judge, how this will be handled now that it's in court.
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In the classified documents case, Trump is not being charged with taking documents and, um, and storing them at Mar-a-Lago.
That seemed to be the original pretext for the raid.
But the focus of the case is on Trump's possession of supposed national security documents.
Brought this up yesterday and actually had a good laugh about it because from what I can see initially, a couple of the so-called highly sensitive national security documents are laughably not sensitive at all.
An email from Obama to Trump saying that he needs to worry about North Korea's nuclear weapons program, completely ho-hum.
Frankly, I don't think Trump cared one whit what Obama had to say about the matter.
And this email missive can be considered something that you can use to wipe your rear end.
The other email was evidently a note from Kim Jong-un to Trump basically saying he had no intention of using nuclear weapons except defensively.
Again, this is ho-hum.
North Korea has taken that position in public many, many times.
So the fact that Kim Jong-un is repeating it hardly makes this sensitive material.
But... Moving on from that, one of the documents highlighted in the indictment is a document that concerns a plan to attack Iran.
A plan to attack Iran that supposedly Trump not only had in his possession, the documents related to this, but apparently talked about it.
And there may even be a tape, I'm not sure if it's an audio tape or a videotape, of Trump talking about this document and this so-called attack plan.
Now what makes all of this really interesting is that General Milley had claimed in his testimony before Congress that he was the one who stopped Trump from the idea of attacking Iran.
So according to Milley, the scenario was this.
Trump was out of control.
Trump was like, we need to consider a plan to attack Iran.
Milley was like, no sir, that would be very irresponsible.
It would escalate and this is not something that we ought to do.
It turns out from the document that the truth was actually exactly the opposite.
The so-called plan to attack Iran was Milley's idea.
Milley had, in fact, drafted the plan to attack.
Trump was the guy who was basically going, this is dumb.
We're not going to be doing this.
We're not launching a direct attack on Iran.
So the point being that Milley went to Congress and completely lied about it and told Congress the opposite of the truth and essentially transplanting him into Trump's place and Trump into his place.
And this is very interesting because it means that you've got a top general who has no compunction about lying to Congress.
Now, he probably thought, I'm going to get away with it because it's all based on classified documents.
They're never going to find out what the truth is.
And so it's kind of ironic that here, in the Mar-a-Lago case, the document surfaces showing that the truth is that Trump was the one who was trying to shut down any plans to...
This is also a good time to remember that it was General Milley who admitted that he was communicating unauthorized, without Trump's authorization, with his counterpart in China.
This was right before the 2020 election.
He's like, listen, we have no plans to attack you.
And by the way, if you hear any rumors to the contrary, please contact me.
So Milley then claimed that it was important to keep channels open between superpowers and so on.
But the reality was that this guy was going behind Trump's back.
In other words, undermining the authority of the Commander-in-Chief.
So all of this is an interesting sideline from the main case itself.
But I think it reinforces our understanding of Milley.
This guy is totally a snake.
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And this does not come as any kind of a surprise.
By and large, our adversaries are always on the move when Democrats are in office.
Democrats are recognized to be weak enforcers of US foreign policy.
They are known to be capitulators and, well, to be honest, wimps.
And it looks like Biden is worse than usual.
Not only the Afghan disaster, people falling out of planes, an absolutely incompetent evacuation, even against a group of, well, 13th century tribesmen, the Taliban.
So you can see why the Chinese are not quaking when they think about what the US will do in response to, let's say, a move against Taiwan.
Recently, four Chinese naval ships moved into the South China Sea, engaging in so-called combat readiness patrols.
And 10 Chinese fighters recently crossed into Taiwanese airspace.
Now... Just by way of background, this is a dispute that goes back to 1949 when China, when communist Mao had his revolution and took over.
Basically, there were a lot of Chinese who opposed the communists and many of them fled to Taiwan and this is how Taiwan was created.
So Taiwan was created not just as a kind of alternative to China, but as an adversary to China, as an opponent to the communist power as it is to this day.
And the Taiwanese are a successful society and they're also quite powerful.
They have their own fighter planes, their own ships, their own land-based missile defense system.
So I'm sure the Taiwanese are on pretty high alert.
Now, there's an interesting news report that the U.S. is preparing in the eventuality of a Taiwanese clash, the Chinese invade Taiwan, preparing to evacuate U.S. citizens from Taiwan.
Now, this is not because the U.S. thinks that this is imminent, but I suppose it has to be because the U.S. thinks it is possible, and we all know it is possible.
And tensions with China and tensions between China and Taiwan seem to be at a pretty high level.
Now, if the US was doing this by itself, it would be interesting, but it turns out that some other countries in the region, Indonesia, the Philippines, Japan, are also figuring out ways to get their citizens out of Taiwan if things get hot.
And if you're a U.S. citizen in Taiwan, and if I was in Taiwan, I would be getting out of there right now.
Why? Because, quite honestly, the old, I trust the U.S. to come get me, doesn't apply anymore.
It is somewhat obsolete anyway, but it's especially obsolete if you're dealing with the Biden administration.
We know, for example, what happened to Americans left behind in Afghanistan.
It's like, it's your problem.
So, So the idea that the U.S. will pull its citizens out, I don't know.
Sometimes countries don't want to do that because they feel like that's going to show a sign of weakness, like, okay, we're already getting out of there.
We're kind of conceding that Taiwan is going to fall to China.
But on the other hand, if you don't take your citizens out, you then leave them vulnerable to becoming victims of a Chinese attack.
Of late, Xi Jinping has been, if you listen to things that he's telling the Chinese people, he's telling the Chinese people you have to prepare for continuing, ongoing, long-term tension with the West and specifically with the United States.
In a recent meeting on national security, this is what Xi says, So what he's really saying is...
And he's speaking, I think, not just of the military front, but also the economy.
He's like, look, the United States might try to do to us, China, what it's been doing to Russia, cutting them out of international credit, trying to block them from having access to the U.S. dollar.
So what he's saying is, we the Chinese have got to rely on our own domestic economy, and we've got to rely on our own allies.
He's talking about the fact that He says we have to build up our domestic market and ensure, quote, normal operations of the national economy under extreme circumstances.
So you can see the Chinese are strategic thinkers.
And oddly enough, we see very little of this on the U.S. side.
You'll never hear the United States, now maybe they're doing it but not talking about it, engaging in extensive planning.
What happens if the Chinese have spy bases in Cuba?
What if they're able to deploy short-range or medium-range missiles in Venezuela?
What if they start thinking about ways to block our EMP, our electromagnetic pulse system, through an EMP type of attack?
So all of this is becoming evident from the Chinese side, and we have to look to the Chinese side to the threat that we're facing, not only here at home, but also through Taiwan.
The fall of Taiwan would really signal a major shift of world power.
And move the Chinese right into line with the United States, if not ahead.
Because think about it, the Chinese are able to checkmate the United States and say, listen, we can take Taiwan and there's not a whole lot you can do about it.
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Guys, I'd like to welcome a new guest to the podcast.
Her name is Peachy Keenan, and we're going to be talking about her new book.
It's called Domestic Extremist.
By the way, Peachy Keenan is the pseudonym of a writer, editor, and mom who, well, apparently lives deep behind enemy lines.
She's given up a career writing for woke corporate behemoths.
To devote herself to family and also social media.
And she's also a contributing editor for the American Mind, which is a very fine publication of the Claremont Institute.
Peachy, welcome to the podcast.
First of all, I got a chuckle at your pseudonym.
And let me ask you why the pseudonym and why this one?
It's great to be here.
When I started writing and tweeting about politics and my opinions, I was working full-time for a very large entertainment company in Los Angeles.
And, you know, I was not able to express any of my personal opinions in the workplace.
Everyone around me was free to do that, but not me.
Some women's opinions are more equal than others.
I would have immediately been cancelled.
And then peachy keen is just sort of a play on peachy keen because things definitely were not feeling very peachy keen at the time.
Oh, I see. So you picked a kind of ironic name to suggest your peculiar situation as, you know, a conservative in a kind of woke cultural environment.
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
Okay. Now, let's start by talking about some of this woke stuff that's in the news.
I just saw a news report that appears to be somewhat erroneous.
It's Starbucks to take down all pride decorations and disgusting cave to the far right.
This was in the New Republic.
And initially I thought, this is actually great news.
I mean, we've learned these days that when the left is screaming about something, it's usually outstanding news.
But apparently they get this news from the union at Starbucks.
Which fed this information to them to make Starbucks look bad.
And then Starbucks turned right around and go, no, no, no, we have undying loyalty to the LGBTQ community.
So it may be, I'm not quite sure that this was a little bit of fake news.
But we do know that with Target, with Bud Light, with Kohl's, with some of these other companies, we're beginning to see for the first time effective pushback.
And I'm not even sure.
Would you say that these boycotts are working?
Is this the way to go?
Or what is your assessment of the landscape in sort of the woke versus anti-woke?
Yeah, I just find it so crazy that we're in this position where, you know, normal parents and mothers and families are having to restrict where they can even shop or buy a cup of coffee because, you know, they can't walk in with their kids.
You're just bombarded with these messages.
I did hear from a friend somewhere that their local Target has now removed all signs of pride.
She couldn't find anything.
So that target is now a safe space for anyone who doesn't want it in their face.
These corporations have just painted themselves into a corner.
You know, they're damned if they do now and they're damned if they don't.
I mean, the old adage, you know, get your company out of politics was a very smart one.
And I feel like they're just now going to be in this scrambling position of trying to appease both sides.
And they can't now. It's too late.
Do you think that the woke infiltration occurred because of, A, the financial leverage exercised by these ESG advocates?
In other words, if you're not on board with the climate, we won't invest in your company or we'll downgrade your company somehow.
Or do you think it's just that leftists are coming out of the universities, going to work for these companies and implying...
I mean, you saw it up close.
Was it coming from the outside or was the pressure coming from the inside?
People talk about that.
This is just pressure from BlackRock and ESG. A business model can't rely on loans from a huge corporation.
At the end of the day, a big corporation has to make money off consumers.
You have to profit from people buying your stuff.
To do that, you have to appeal to a large amount of customers.
That's what Target and Disney and Starbucks are.
And Bud Light do. And so I think that they are now just really caving to a pressure that has nothing to do with money.
Money is no longer the driving force behind these corporations' viewpoints.
They're being ruled by, like you said, I think mostly young women coming out of elite universities and getting hired, getting kind of fast-tracked into girl boss marketing positions.
And they are slowly but surely dismantling American capitalism from the inside.
It's really amazing.
I mean, what's remarkable to me when I think about, particularly, let's put Target to the side, but I think about Disney and I think about Bud Light, they are aggressively waging war on their own brand.
I mean, Disney was Americana, right?
When I came to America in the 70s, it was kind of my introduction to the idea of, you know, American history and the sort of celebration of America.
This was what Disney represented, right?
And now it seems to represent an assault on that.
And similarly, Bud Light, you know, you think of fraternity brothers drinking Bud Light or guys watching a Super Bowl game.
So that's the audience.
That's the consumer base.
And then you put on, you know, Dylan Mulvaney.
And you're supposed to have ads where you, I mean, I would identify with like the Marlboro Man, you know?
So aren't these people just thumbing their nose at their own customers and burning their own brand?
I mean, I think so. I think it's really a reflection of what's going on, you know, culture-wide, which is sort of this rejection of, you know, normal families, normal people.
Walt Disney, you know, Walter O'Malley, who owned the Dodgers, these men kind of built America. They built American culture.
What we think of as the American dream, these aspirational images that we and our parents who grew up here, you know, were kind of infused with.
And they're really tearing that down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. You know, they talk about rewriting history for universities.
They're really rewriting kind of American pop culture and the American ethos into this sort of new vision of America.
And it's very off-putting to someone who is, you know, a cultural conservative.
Like, what is going on here?
This is not the world that I ever dreamed I'd be raising my children in.
Let's take a pause when we come back more with Peachy Keenan, author of Domestic Extremist.
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You know, BG, I'm a little bit unsure why conservatives and defenders of the American way of life, and you don't have to be very political to like, you know, the old way of going to Disney or baseball or Americana or apple pie, and yet it seems that the resistance to this woke stuff is very tempered.
Even when I see moms, they're like, well, we're very tolerant.
We're not against anybody.
We don't hate anybody.
Why say any of that?
My point is if you can recognize that this is an assault.
Imagine if we were assaulting the left this way.
Would they say things like, well, we don't have anything against patriotism.
We are not opposed to the free market.
No, they just go all out and attack us as mean-spirited and evil, and yet we don't do that to them.
Have you noticed the psychological difference between the two sides?
How do you explain it? Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that, you know, people on the right tend to be people who just want to be left alone.
Many of them are Christian. They do believe in, you know, in tolerance and love, like the real version of that.
And people who seem to be drawn to the left, maybe it's who they are, or just because what the left offers, they do tend to be much more vicious, unforgiving.
You know, they say love is love, except they hate you and want you to die.
Yeah. And we don't feel like that.
And maybe that is to our detriment, because we're not really willing or able to even fight as dirty or as as ruthlessly as they as they are.
I mean, that's why I wrote this book.
You know, domestic extremists is ironic, because they're the ones who are, if you look around living very extreme lives and have these extreme ideologies, we're just trying to be normal.
But they call us the extremists, but all we are is extremely domestic.
We just want to protect our families, raise our children, and live in a way that was considered normal, like within recent memory.
So how do we do that in this situation?
In other words, it almost seems to me like we're for pioneers going out west and all you want to do is have a ranch and you want to have some cattle and you want to raise your family, but suddenly you realize you're encircled by outlaws and these outlaws want to burn the ranch down, right? So then it can actually be an easygoing, let me just focus on planting some new crops or finding, so you know, you have to adopt a different strategy. So how do you think about
that? What are some of the things we need to do to more effectively take on these guys who obviously don't mean as well? Yeah, that's exactly right.
We can no longer have the attitude of, well, we just want to live our lives and just please, please leave us alone because they will not leave you alone and they will not leave your children alone. And it is time right now for everyone, not even on the right, but anyone just, you know, who wants to live a normal life, doesn't their children indoctrinated to adopt a new mentality, like, right away, like today.
And to start really kind of, you know, they're waging this war on us.
It's time to kind of fight back.
And I don't mean, you know, with weapons, but I mean by really taking charge of your parental authority of your household, watching what your children are doing, who they're hanging out with, what they're learning in their school.
In many cases, I tell people, it's time to get out of your school.
I mean, you know, flee your public school.
The minute that first drag queen walks into the door of the classroom, you got to go.
And just things like that, I mean, just sort of withdrawing your family as much as possible from the kind of woke tsunami is crucial here.
And, you know, if it's just not shopping at Target during the month of Pride Month or Or if it's really just designed to homeschool your children and kind of like, you know, reforming what pop culture they're taking in.
There are many things you can do.
And it's time to take a few first steps and stop, you know, pull your head out of the sand.
It's time to kind of face this head on now, I think.
Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think when it comes to shopping, we shouldn't just not shop there, but let them know.
In other words, if you can get contacts with some of the people who are on the board of these companies, reach out to them, let them know why you're not doing what you're doing or you're not doing.
And then... You know, look at the one-sidedness of juries in places like Washington, D.C. It seems to me that leftists love to be on juries because it's a place to enforce their ideology.
Well, what that means is, a lot of times on our side, you get a call for jury duty, you're like, oh my gosh, I gotta work that day, oh my gosh, you know, let me see if I can get out of it.
Well, don't get out of it.
If you can possibly do it, do it, because we need to have balanced juries, don't we?
Yeah, that's so true.
I think that people on the left, you know, maybe they don't work.
They're just full-time activists, and they're only too excited to get paid by the day on jury duty.
And yes, we have jobs. We have children.
I've gone out of jury duty several times because I was nursing another baby, you know?
But yes, I think that, you know, as more conservatives are kind of really prosecuted, you know, from Donald Trump on just for their beliefs for being at a protest peacefully, but they're attacked, like we saw in Glendale, the Armenian fathers were literally ambushed.
They were there to protest what is really very lewd content going into their school district.
They were forced to defend themselves.
And so people may end up, you know, in front of a jury.
And, you know, one juror can stop it.
Yeah, I'm wondering if we need an army of paid activists on our side.
And I say that because, you know, I'll run into these suburban moms who say to me things like, Dinesh, I've been fighting election fraud.
I've been fighting, you know, I'm really exhausted and I'm doing it all on my own time.
Well, the left doesn't do it on their own time.
They've got an army of non-profits.
They've got all the... The Soros money, their billionaires put a lot into it.
So as a result, even these Antifa guys, the bricks are provided for them.
The moment they're arrested, there's bail money available.
So it seems like the left has perfected the art of political warfare carried out this way.
And again, it may seem to be that we need to do things we haven't done before, even though they're somewhat distasteful.
We think, well, if you're involved in a civic manner, you shouldn't be paid for it.
But gee, the left is paid.
Yeah, that is such a great idea.
There is definitely, you know, they have built a whole industry around protesting and activism.
I mean, just from the top down.
Antifa, they're paid. I mean, I have friends who have seen them on airplanes flying to different protests in their full Antifa gear on the airplane.
We don't have that.
You know, the Bidens employ, like, young Zoomer-age men who make TikTok videos about how great Joe Biden is.
Like... What 19-year-old boy cares about Joe Biden?
We do not have that.
And we saw there was a school the other day where the school had been covered in pride paraphernalia and the children were told they must, it was a middle school, they were required to wear rainbow gear.
And the children, the kids protested.
They tore down some posters or they threw something on the floor.
They didn't want to wear the clothes.
And they were doing that on their own.
This organic protest among the kids, you know, and it would be really nice to have that supported those kids, you know, lawfare to protect them from being, you know, sued or whatever from that.
I think that's a great idea. Because you know the administration is going to come down hard and go, these are hateful kids.
Yeah, they are. So they already are doing that.
Good stuff, Peachy Keenan.
The book is called Domestic Extremist.
The website peachykeenanwrites.com.
Hey, thanks so much for joining me.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Great to be here. I'm approaching the end of my mini course on Christian apologetics based upon my book.
What's so great about Christianity?
If you don't have the book, this is what it looks like.
It's available in paperback.
You can pick it up, Amazon, Barnes& Noble, pretty much anywhere.
And two more chapters to go.
And now we're focusing in, we've talked broadly about history, philosophy, a little bit of science.
Focusing mainly on the issue of God, but here we're going to zoom in specifically to Christianity.
The chapter, it's chapter 25.
There are 26 chapters in the book, so just one more to go after this.
This one is called Jesus Among Other Gods, The Uniqueness of Christianity.
So you can see where I'm going here.
I'm going to try to highlight what makes Christianity different from all other religions, certainly all other major religions.
The opening quotation, one of my favorites, it's from Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice.
In the course of justice, none of us should see salvation.
This is actually from Portia.
And what she's saying is that, hey, if we all get what we truly deserve, you know what?
None of us would actually make it to heaven.
and she's applying this notion to Shylock's claim that he wants a pound of flesh because it's just, he demands justice, and she goes, well, listen, you know what, if we all got really justice, things wouldn't actually turn out that well for us after all. Now, so far in the book and in this talk, in this course, I've examined Christianity kind of from a secular point of view.
I've tried to show how Christianity has shaped our culture and our world.
I've tried to show how the central premises of theism in general and Christianity in particular are supported by modern science and modern thought.
And now, in this concluding section, I want to delineate what makes Christianity apart, different from other religions, and I will also show in the last chapter how our lives can change if we become Christians.
We sometimes hear the idea that all religions are the same, or all religions are mostly the same.
And there are two types of people who say this.
The first type is actually religious believers, although typically they don't tend to be all that fervent religious believers.
These are well-meaning people who say, well, you know, all religions are equal pathways to heaven.
And this is... This is, in fact, the position of one major religion, Hinduism.
Hinduism makes the claim that there are multiple pathways to heaven and you don't have to be a Hindu to achieve this kind of liberation or nirvana.
But there is a widespread sentiment in the West that religions are similar in that they're kind of human pathways to the divine.
And according to this logic, well, it doesn't matter a whole bunch what religion you subscribe to.
And so, again, if you go around trying to persuade other people that your religion is right, your religion is the best, this seems to be kind of impolite, if not somewhat fanatical.
Now, the second group that considers all religions to be largely the same is atheists.
They believe that all religions are the same because all religions are equally false.
And some unbelievers even say all religions are equally pernicious.
So when I write about Christianity, I sometimes will hear things like, well, you know, Dinesh, why are you down on atheism?
You two are kind of an atheist when it comes to Allah.
In other words, you don't believe in that god.
You don't believe in the Hindu gods.
Richard Dawkins makes this point in his book called The Devil's Chaplain.
When it comes to Baal and the golden calf, Thor and Wotan, Poseidon and Apollo, Mithras and Amon Ra, all modern theists are actually atheists.
And he goes, and he's trying to be really clever here, some of us just go one god further.
So in other words, you Christians don't believe in all the other gods.
We just add your god to the list.
So, according to this way of thinking, all sorts of divine revelation, whether it's Islamic or Hindu or Christian, all of this is a bunch of nonsense.
And it's hair-splitting whether you're dealing with Christian nonsense or Jewish nonsense or, for that matter, Zoroastrian nonsense.
But I think that both these believers and these atheists are wrong in that all religions are, in fact, not the same.
And at some level, we really know this, because religions, if we pay attention to the content, they make these uncompromising claims.
Claims about the nature of God, the nature of us, the nature of the afterlife, the nature of morality.
And so, If you look at these claims and you put them all up side by side, you find that they are incompatible.
So it clearly can't be true that these religions are all right.
Now, it could be true that they are all wrong, because you can have differing and incompatible claims, and all of those claims are fallacious.
But it does follow that if one of these religions is true, comprehensively and completely, then the others are at least to a certain degree false.
But a lot of well-meaning people don't like to get into this.
They want to avoid controversy, so they say, listen...
Religions are the same. These are people who kind of want to go along and get along.
And even though this is an erroneous view, I think, it does contain an element of truth.
And an element of truth is this, and that is that there is a common morality that the great religions of the world share.
I also think it's true that the great monotheistic religions have something in common.
They worship the one God, and I think, therefore, it has to be the same God.
But, of course, they differ tremendously in their understanding of God, why man needs God, and, most importantly, how man can find Him.
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