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A PERFECT STORM Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep 118
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There's a perfect storm of resistance building against the Biden administration, waiting for Maricopa.
And Darren Beatty, the founder of Revolver News, joins me again to talk about how the thugs with badges have done it before.
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There's a perfect storm of resistance that is building a real weather system, if I can put it that way.
And it is coming from three separate storms that are converging together.
This is the idea of the perfect storm, right?
It's more than one weather system.
They kind of join forces, and then you've just got an unbelievable turbulence of tsunami or some catastrophic result.
Except in this case, the catastrophic result is for the left, and so we love it.
This is a good perfect storm as far as we are concerned.
I don't know if you saw, Debbie and I saw, I guess about a year ago, the movie The Perfect Storm.
Directed by Wolfgang Petersen, starring George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg, Diane Lane.
It's about this little ship, the Andrea Gale, that is out fishing and then it catches the perfect storm and the results are very bad for the people in the Andrea Gale.
Now, let's talk about the perfect storm in politics.
There are three elements to it.
The first element is the massive mobilization of parents around the country against critical race theory, and basically more broadly against this indoctrination going on in the public schools.
You might have seen on social media, Loudoun County, Virginia is a little bit of the vortex of this.
And parents recently confronted school board members.
The school board members had to call a stop, block the whole proceeding.
A couple of parents were even arrested.
But you get a mood, a feel for what was going on in this short clip.
Listen. We hail at the twilight's last gleaming.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
So you can get the patriotic fervor.
What the parents are basically saying is that critical race theory is anti-patriotic.
It's an America-hating ideology, and they're totally right.
Now, they've come belatedly to this picnic, you'd have to say.
But, as Debbie mentioned to me as we were sipping our latte, she goes, this is the result of COVID. Because, see, these sneaky leftists have been trying to push this stuff through for a long time.
They love the fact that parents had no idea what was going on in the classroom.
But now under COVID... When you do this stuff online, suddenly mom can kind of peek and go, wait, what's that?
You know, she realizes that you've got all this vile stuff that is being pushed by the left.
This propaganda masquerading as education.
Now, the parents are getting really smart, and they are figuring out ways to fight back.
There are a couple of parental organizations around the country.
And one of their strategies is this.
They essentially write to the school board, or they write to the government, and they put in these FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act requests, demanding to know, to identify critical race theory elements in the school curriculum.
They have a right to do this. They're parents.
They're taxpayers. They're helping to fund the public school system.
But this causes massive convulsions in the school district.
And so my message to you out there is, if you want to be part of this movement, you should join it.
Because anything that we can do to cause havoc on the other side is very good for us.
We don't care if we tie these people up in knots.
We don't care if we make it difficult for them to function.
Why? Because what they're doing is essentially poisonous.
So stopping the poison is the first step.
Restoring education is kind of the second step.
And the first one is to take the bad guys, take this menagerie of characters and tie them down, lock them up, put them in knots.
Now, what's kind of funny is as the parental movement explodes, and it's exploding with groups like Parents Defending Education, which is, by the way, head by a former Wall Street Journal reporter, Asra Nomani.
I'm going to invite her to come on this podcast in a week or so.
There's Oregonians for Liberty, Educators for Quality, and Equality.
These are basically all this...
All this grassroots mobilization.
Great to see. It was kind of funny as the left, taken by surprise.
So first they go, well, we're not really doing it.
This is kind of funny. I mean, there's actually an article after DeSantis and the Florida legislature outlawed critical race theory in Florida.
There's an article in the Miami Herald that says, quote, the theory is not taught in any Florida school districts.
Really, it's not taught.
Well, if it's not taught, why would you be concerned about the ban?
I mean, think about it this way. I impose a ban on unicorns.
But there are no unicorns.
Well, the ban is totally harmless.
You should be for it. If there are unicorns, in that case we'll ban them.
Since there are no unicorns, you have nothing to worry about.
So, the left here, when up against the wall, resorts to lies.
Their standard tactic.
That's the first part of the storm.
That's storm number one. Let's talk about storm number two.
Voter integrity laws now being introduced all over the country, nearly in all 50 states, but certainly in the swing states.
And they're all moving forward.
In Michigan, recently, the Senate passes legislation to add voter ID requirements.
Voter ID requirements for in-person voters as well as absentee voters.
And all the Senate Republicans, by the way, voted for it.
Every Senate Democrat voted against it.
So this is a straight-out partisan issue.
By the way, current law in Michigan, you don't have to have a voter, a photo ID, even when you vote in person.
You just have to sign an affidavit saying it's me.
I mean, really? Imagine if you could do other things that way.
I'm just going to sign an affidavit that it's me.
Yeah, let me bank here. What's your name?
Winston Churchill. Yeah, I'm going to sign the affidavit.
So this wouldn't fly in any other context.
But the Democrats wanted to fly in the voting context because why?
It enables cheating.
But fortunately, now there are movements to fix voter laws in Pennsylvania.
Georgia's already passed these laws.
Florida has, so has Texas.
So a national movement to fix the vote.
And again, the idea here is, look, you know, the left keeps saying that there's baseless claims of voter fraud.
Well... Let's say that we can't prove what happened in November of 2020.
We're still going to lock the barn door so that the horse, maybe the horse was or wasn't stolen the last time, but there are other horses in the barn, which is to say there are future elections that are very important for democracy.
Let's secure those, at least.
And so the left is freaking out at this voter integrity movement.
This is why they were trying so hard to push HR1. Fortunately, that was, at least for the moment, stopped in its tracks.
And then number three.
The third part of the storm, Hispanics are waking up, and I predict that Asian Americans will be next.
Hispanics are basically figuring out, you know, I mean, think about it.
They're waking up in the wake of an intense leftist and media campaign.
Trump and the Republicans are racist.
Trump hates immigrants.
The GOP hates Mexicans.
So imagine a group that gets a drumbeat of this kind of propaganda, and yet at the end of the day they go, well, you know what?
I'm actually going to vote for Trump.
I'm actually going to vote for the GOP. A real movement toward the GOP. And by the way, this isn't just the Cubans.
This isn't just the Venezuelans.
These are the Mexican-Americans who are the majority of Hispanics in this country.
So I foresee a Republican Party that is a multiracial alliance of whites.
50% plus Hispanics, ideally 70% plus Asians.
The Republicans are a long way from that, but they should be able to get that.
And then perhaps a minority of African Americans, but nevertheless a multiracial coalition that if you can put this together and the political tracks are already there to do that, would make the GOP invincible, not just in 2022 and 2024, but also beyond.
All eyes are on the Maricopa County election audit.
And Maricopa here is only the tip of the spear.
Arizona is the tip of the spear.
Why? Because there are efforts to look at the 2020 election that are now occurring elsewhere as well.
Admittedly, some of these efforts are They're desultory.
They are small.
They are being resisted by the Democratic establishments.
But the very fact that they're going on shows that there is a kind of ongoing restlessness arising out of continuing doubts about what really happened last November.
In Michigan, for example, demonstration outside the Michigan Capitol, hundreds of people show up.
They present 7,000 affidavits.
7,000 affidavits.
By the way, the In Maricopa, there was a relatively small number of affidavits that convinced the Arizona Senate that something seemed to be amiss here in Maricopa County.
Let's do an audit.
So they're pushing for that in Michigan.
In Georgia, the Secretary of State, Raffensperger, the very guy who said, oh, safest election ever, nothing to worry about, I've been in charge, I'm supervising everything.
Suddenly, Raffensperger We're good to go.
And it turns out that there's a 29-page memo that's come out.
Raffensperger's own man was sent to Atlanta to check out what was going on, and this guy put out a detailed report By the way, that's the place that swung the state into Biden's camp.
A litany of high-risk problems, double counting of votes, insecure storage of ballots, violations of voter privacy, mysterious removal of election materials at a vote collection warehouse.
I'm quoting the guy, this seems like a massive chain of custody.
problem, all kinds of ballots are coming in, and now I'm quoting him again, it is my understanding that the ballots are supposed to be moved in numbered sealed boxes to protect them, noting that these ballots were not.
And on and on it goes.
Now... We're going to get, I think, I hope, some clarity out of Maricopa.
And there's an interesting article in the Washington Examiner which talks about an election analysis by a bipartisan group.
Apparently a couple of them were Trump supporters, but a couple of them were also Democrats.
These are sort of academics who decided to look at Maricopa County.
They're making the claim that Biden won Maricopa County.
And so they're making the claim, I think, opposite to what a lot of people are expecting out of the Maricopa audit.
Now, I want to go through their reasoning in the spirit of open-mindedness, because when we're investigating something, you always have to be open to all lines of evidence.
Now, these guys... This is apparently a guy named Benny White, a Republican election researcher, joined with Democrat Larry Moore and another independent guy named Tim Halverson.
These guys are doing an analysis of the Maricopa vote.
And here's what they say.
They say that Republicans in Maricopa County do outnumber Democrats, but narrowly, about 13,000 votes.
So that should give a slight, although only a slight, edge to Trump.
But they say that when they look closely at the results, and they're not doing an audit, they're merely looking at the election results, the public election results that came out last November, they say that they detect more disaffected Republicans than Democrats. And what they mean by this is they say that while 59,800 people voted for the GOP in Maricopa County, GOP candidates down the ballot, but they didn't vote for Trump.
They didn't vote for Trump. And 39,000 allegedly of these Republican voters voted for Biden.
Now, on the face of it, this causes me to recoil slightly because the Biden agenda is so left-wing that it's hard for me to believe that such a large number of Republican voters crossed the aisle and voted for Biden, despite voting for GOP candidates on the rest of the ticket.
Now, on the Democratic side, these same researchers say that there were 38,000 voters in Maricopa County who didn't vote for Biden, but 21,679 of those voted for Trump.
So what they're getting at here is that there was some disaffection on the Democratic side.
There were some Democrats who crossed over and voted for Trump, but they're saying there were more Republicans who crossed over and voted for Biden.
Now, could this be true?
I think it could be true.
I think that even if unlikely, it certainly is possible.
And if it is true, there are two factors that could have made it true.
One, Trump's, in my view, catastrophic performance in the first debate.
He was irritable.
He was, at times, almost nasty.
I think there was a sense at the first debate that, gee, this guy is just a little out of control.
At least that was the impression.
Very bad performance by Trump in the first debate.
The second factor, which can't be discounted in Arizona, is the McCain family.
the kind of feud between Trump and McCain turned the McCain family, perhaps the most influential Republican family in the state, against Trump, almost actively campaigning for Biden.
And so it is possible, it seems to me, that this family alone had a negative influence on Trump.
Not a negative influence on the GOP, because the GOP down-ballot candidates still did pretty well, but a negative influence on Republicans voting for Trump.
So all of this is the sort of, I would call it the alternative possibility.
But what's interesting about the left and its response to the Maricopa audit is they're so freaked out by the very idea of the audit, because they know that if the audit shows substantial fraud, it will vindicate what Republicans have been saying from the beginning, and it will stimulate movements in other states to also do audits.
to also do counts.
Will all of this result? I mean, interesting question.
So, and then so what?
Even if there is a systematic pattern of fraud that is uncovered, will it be enough?
Will it make any difference?
Will Biden still be in office?
My thinking is that, alas, Biden will still be in office no matter what.
Why? In part because I don't know if there's any constitutional provision here to dislocate Biden from the presidency.
The Supreme Court, at least in its behavior to date, has shown itself very allergic, very reluctant to take on this issue in any kind of fundamental way, giving it any kind of serious scrutiny.
And so what you have here is, what we're looking for, I think, at best, is just vindication, is just a recognition that all this stuff about shenanigans and improprieties isn't in our imagination.
There really were a lot of problems with the last election.
That's why all eyes are on Maricopa, and that's why we're eager to find out, something that we haven't found out to date, what really happened.
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I invited Dr.
Darren Beattie back on the podcast.
We talked, well, just a few days ago about that bombshell revolver news article that put a new possibility forward that the FBI was involved through operatives or through informants in orchestrating January 5th.
And now there's another, I think, very interesting article in Revolver, just a day or two ago, making the case that the FBI has a track record of doing this.
Of course, in the original Revolver, it was shown that the FBI was very active in the so-called Governor Whitmer.
There were five out of 14 people arrested were connected in some way with the FBI. So the FBI was kind of stoking this up, if not coming up with it in the first place.
Hey Darren, welcome to the program.
Thanks for coming on.
You point out that the FBI, going back many years, has been in the business of cooking up plots, actively aiding and abetting them, and then busting them and claiming the credit for plots that they appear to have engineered.
Is that a fair summary of what your latest article shows?
Yes, indeed. And as I mentioned last time I came on and talking about kind of prepping the audience for this admittedly disturbing thesis that the FBI or other elements of the government could have been involved in 1-6, It's to say that, look, this is nothing new.
We don't need to go back to J. Edgar Hoover.
In that case, I think the most persuasive and really remarkable antecedent was the Michigan case, as you mentioned.
But given that that's already part of the conversation, really people do find that shocking.
If any of your listeners, if anyone's been under a rock and hasn't read the original Revolver.News piece, I highly recommend reading it and sharing it and getting up to speed on this really profound development in our understanding of what may have happened in 1.6.
And so this newer piece that you mentioned, its exact title is, They've Done This Before, Five Past Cases of FBI Incitement.
And it goes through some examples, some of which I find remarkable, like the first World Trade Center bombing, which a lot of people simply don't know.
And these Cases are interesting in their own right, This new narrative about 1-6.
And it underscores something that I think is especially difficult, but also very important about the kind of work that Revolver does, is that there's one kind of journalism that's just kind of opinion journalism, and that's important.
There's investigative journalism that reinforces or I think?
That is to say that this whole idea that 1-6 could have been something from the FBI or from the government, just the idea that that's the sort of thing that our government does and that's where our attention should be in uncovering what's going on, that is very new and very disturbing to a lot of people.
And so it's not quite like something that we already know, say, I don't know, Joe Biden is bad.
So like something, we uncover something about Joe Biden that's bad that might be a bombshell, but it doesn't require that kind of reconfiguration of one's kind of neural and conceptual circuitry to digest that. Whereas I think in this case, it does require some of that, especially as I pointed out, as a matter of our political psychology as people on the right.
I think there's one reason that the left has in some ways been better in a narrower sense at covering this type of story. And that is because the left is animated by a political psychology of wanting to attack unjust institutions of power. In my view, they don't really do that.
In my view, the left ends up serving unjust institutions of power.
But my point is, according to their self-conception, they need to think of themselves as attacking unjust institutions of power.
Whereas those of us on the right, I think we're much more oriented toward wanting to defend and even venerate Just and well-functioning institutions of authority.
So it's more difficult on our side to really get up to speed on this new reality that we face in what used to be America, what I now call the globalist American empire, That so many of the institutions in this country, in fact, maybe all, including those national security institutions that we're inclined to venerate, have become corrupted.
And not only have they become corrupted, they become weaponized against us.
And so it requires much more heavy lifting in terms of rhetoric and in terms of concept and in terms of the underlying psychology to reorient ourselves in a manner that That we're able to address this new reality.
Yeah, that's a very important statement.
And I think what you're saying is that we as conservatives are very rarely in kind of attack mode.
We're in defense mode.
And we need this kind of critical journalism that looks hard at what institutions actually do.
Let's just talk about a single example here, and then in the next segment we'll dive more into this.
Let's talk about the World Trade Center bombing.
Let's talk about this Egyptian immigrant named Imad Salem, who was evidently part of this bombing, but he was an FBI plant and an FBI informant.
What did he actually do?
Right. No, I mean, this is quite amazing.
And so, again, with the World Trade Center, it's always, you know, a difficult issue because 9-11 has basically eclipsed everything in terms of our kind of emotional investments and so forth.
And so a lot of us forget that there was this first bombing, which at the time was an extremely serious event.
It was one of the most serious, if not the most serious terrorist attacks that we'd had in a while.
And what's even less well known than, you know, just thinking about that first bombing is that this bomb that nearly murdered tens of thousands was built with the help of an FBI informant.
That's this Egyptian that you mentioned, Imad Salam.
And he was part of this guy Ramzi Yusuf's cell during the plotting of the attack.
He was posing as an ex-Green Beret.
He was encouraged by the FBI to join this extremist cell.
He penetrated the cell and instead of thwarting the attack, at least in Michigan, they thwarted the attack.
In this case, They went ahead and the FBI deliberately let him go forward.
And if you read the Revolver.News article, you'll see interview like just tape recordings, tape recordings with Salem basically saying, yeah, we made the bomb and they just didn't stop it.
We just went forward with it.
FBI didn't do anything to stop it, even though their informant played an instrumental role in creating the bomb.
When we come back, we're going to dive into a couple of other cases very similar in which the FBI isn't just infiltrating a plot and thwarting it, but rather is pushing it forward, is actually making it happen.
This is what you get when you have thugs with badges.
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I'm back with Dr.
Darren Beattie, the founder of Revolver News.
We're talking about a new Revolver article about the FBI's past complicity, and in some cases, active engagement in plots.
Which are sort of FBI setups.
Talk a little bit, Darren, about the case of Hal Turner.
Hal Turner was supposedly this kind of militant right-winger, this talk show host, this so-called white supremacist neo-Nazi guy who was calling for the murder of judges.
He was calling for the overthrow of institutions.
He was basically talking about American citizens gunning down illegal immigrants.
Talk about the Hal Turner case and what subsequently emerged about Hal Turner.
Right. The Hal Turner case is very interesting.
So, as you mentioned, he was this colorful and I would have to say extremely controversial radio personality, what we might call a political version of the shock jock.
And basically, the FBI got him for something along the lines of threatening a judge, and he disputes that.
He says this is within the parameters of the First Amendment, that he didn't directly...
I'm not here to really adjudicate that.
But what is important, though, is that...
He revealed, basically...
Actually, he didn't really reveal.
The story is even more interesting.
Hackers hacked into his computer and discovered communications between him and FBI agents.
And basically, the whole thing unraveled.
He was charged with threatening judges.
And in the course of his...
Criminal prosecution, he came out and basically confirmed, admitted what had come out through this hacking of his computer, which is, he said, look, all of this stuff that you're charging me for now, I was doing it for you guys.
I was an informant for you guys the whole time.
And in this case, there were actually, you know, documents and communications between him and the FBI. Now, is it possible that he went on to exaggerate that role in order to save his own skin?
Maybe that's possible.
But is it possible that he had this long-standing relationship with the FBI has been documented by these hackers who got into his computer and uncovered his communications?
It's a very bizarre thing.
And it goes to show actually an interesting parallel with the Michigan case, because one kind of addendum to this Michigan saga is that fifth Undercover informant, the last one to kind of reveal himself, in this kind of dramatic fashion, he was on a Zoom call with fellow plotters who were all basically saying, it's clear at this point, someone's a mole.
We got to figure it out. We think it's you.
And essentially, he admitted it in saying, yes, I'm the person who is referred to as the, quote, individual from Wisconsin in the charging documents.
And so after he revealed himself, maybe the government got pissed at him.
Maybe he was no longer useful.
But for whatever reason, after he became a known quantity, the feds went after him.
And so they're going after him now for a gun charge, which is interesting because they used him to penetrate all of these guns rights groups when they knew full well that he himself could not have a gun because he had a sex offender charge.
And so they're going after him for gun issues.
Could be a similar thing going on with Hal Turner, where he was a long-term informant.
And again, people need to understand the relationship between the formants and the governments.
They're rocky. They have their ups and downs.
They're complicated and convoluted relationships in their own right.
And they can, like all things, lead to a falling out that can lead to a prosecution.
And the bind that the government is in this case is that to the extent that the person's been collecting documentation on their relationship with the federal government, if that's revealed, that's bad for them.
And so they always need to have this kind of walking the tightrope of giving somebody Enough charges so it looks like they're doing their job, but not so much that they squeal.
And if they squeal, they need to go into damage control mode.
And so Hal Turner was an interesting case, not only as someone who was a prominent, kind of right wing, but in a shock jock incendiary sort of way, radio host who turned out to be a long time informant who was later burned by the very government on behalf of which he was informing.
I mean, one to me very telling little tidbit from the article, quote, according to Turner, he was actively coached by the FBI on what rhetoric to use to gin up support from extremists.
And he was even advised on whom to attack.
He says he was specifically told to criticize black figures like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
So the FBI is putting him up to all this.
Attack Sharpton. Be a racial provocateur.
You're doing it for us.
Alright, so we've talked about Hal Turner.
Let's now turn to the Herald Square bomb.
We're talking now about the bombing 2004.
In Herald Square, I believe in Boston, right?
We're talking about this guy named Shahawar Siraj.
He's the guy who was going to bomb the Herald Square subway in New York.
But it turns out that he had a co-conspirator, which is FBI informant, a guy named Elder Woody.
And you show in the article that constantly Elder Woody is pushing this guy to do something that he doesn't even really want to do.
Right, right. Again, so there are two dimensions to this question.
There's the dimension of what does the government know on the basis of having an informant?
And so if they're aware of a plot and they don't stop it, that in itself is extremely damning.
So they stop the Michigan plot.
If they're aware of a plot and they don't stop it, that's a damning.
But then there's this additional question of, did they basically create the plot in the first place?
Or would there have been any kind of anything actionable without their prodding?
And again, this is a case of...
FBI informant very clearly prodding the suspect in question to do something that he may otherwise not have done.
And in this case, it's a bombing, an act of terrorism.
And so we've seen this go back to This is not simply something that happens with right-wing circles, with militias.
I think part of what I wanted to accomplish with this piece was to show that actually this is something that was a fairly substantial feature of the war on terror itself, at least domestically, and that this is not really a new playbook as far as the national security state is concerned.
And it's something that should concern all of us because in the case of the war on terror, maybe there was a more narrowly targeted group, even though I think nobody should be targeted unjustly.
But in this case, the target is clearly anybody with political sympathies with Trump.
I mean, when I read these transcripts and these...
I mean, my sympathy here is a little bit with the radical Muslims, because in this case, this guy, Siraj, he's pouring his heart out to this elder Woody FBI informant.
He's talking about his financial problems.
He's met some woman in Pakistan online he wants to marry.
He's very distraught.
He's got a liver disease.
And so the FBI guy is using the guy's troubles to sort of push him in the direction of doing the bombing.
Exactly. And when it says, quote, But the guy is not actually by himself going to do the bombing without active FBI complicity.
I mean, this is what to me is so shocking, is that the FBI is actually creating the plots it claims to then foil.
Exactly. 100%.
Very, very well put.
These people are not masterminds.
And we saw the same thing in the Michigan case.
This guy, Adam Cox, that they called the mastermind, was someone who was completely broke, That was living in the basement of his friend's, I think, like washing laundromat, something like he was living in the basement of someplace, completely broke, in no position to be a mastermind of anything.
And so they, you know, they find these incredibly vulnerable psychological cases.
They take them, they, you know, they do everything they can.
In many cases, They'll pay for all the materials necessary and as we saw in the World Trade Center case, even make the bomb for them.
So in terms of overt action, you have the government basically setting everything up and all they need is to prod and prod and prod and get some psychologically vulnerable and probably not especially intelligent person just to say one little thing that crosses the line and there they have their plot.
But it's totally disconnected from how it's presented to the public as, oh, all these plotters going on everywhere.
And in fact, sometimes you wonder, it's like, you see these things, you say, wow, like, this is very obscure.
This is just some, you know, unhinged guy in the middle of nowhere.
The feds must be really on it to find something like this.
Well, not knowing that they found it because they created it.
Darren, this is shocking and scary, and I want to congratulate you on the work you're doing at Revolver.
Folks, I think we're beginning to discover that the civics book image we got of the FBI from The Untouchables, it's completely bogus.
It's a pretty good movie, but it bears no resemblance to the bunch of thugs and crooks that we currently have, at least at the very top of our Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Thanks, Darren. I really appreciate you coming on the show.
Thank you, Dinesh. I really appreciate it.
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There's been a massive spike in crime in cities around the country.
Increases of 100%, 140%, 200% in this case and that case.
And the Biden administration can no longer ignore this.
Now, the spike in crime is quite obviously the result of two things.
First, Defund the police.
There have been defund the police efforts in some of these cities.
There have been cutbacks in other cities.
Certainly in every city there has been an effort to demonize the police by the left.
To reduce the morale of the police.
To make the police force less effective.
Why? Because every time a policeman goes into the inner city, he's got to watch out.
Oh, he pulls out his gun.
Why do you pull out your gun? He shot this guy.
Why do you shoot that guy? Yes, he was going for his gun, but look, he only had a knife.
And so all of this causes police to be, make it more difficult for them to do their job.
And so probably one of the greatest deterrents to crime, the cops, are now being pushed back by the left, which, and by the Democrats who control these cities.
So you weaken the cops and you're gonna get more crime.
The other way to get more crime is to make sure that the targets of crime, the homeowners, For example, don't have guns.
And that's been another key part of the Biden agenda.
And of course, many of these cities have strong gun control laws.
You can't have a gun, by and large, unless you get special permission in cities like San Francisco, Washington, D.C., The boroughs of New York and so on.
So the criminal becomes emboldened.
So the criminal is emboldened because, number one, I don't have to be afraid that someone's going to pull out their gun and shoot me.
That would be a major deterrent of me trying to push my way through someone's door.
Or number two, I don't have to worry about the cops because the left is going to take my side on this.
The point is that the criminals are emboldened because one of the two major political parties has become a criminal's lobby.
And I don't just mean the fact that they are weakening the cops.
They also are electing DAs.
There's been a huge push of progressive money, people like George Soros, to get left-wing DAs and left-wing prosecutors elected in these cities.
So even if you actually catch the bad guy, the prosecutor goes, let him go.
Let him off. Hundreds of rioters arrested in New York just recently released.
Let him go. No problem.
So, you have, first of all, you have this preposterous discrepancy between these rioters being let go in these cities in Portland and New York and the January 6th protesters who are supposed to be, you know, the American version of Al-Qaeda.
I was laughing the other day, well, yesterday, I guess, when Biden's talking about it.
He's like, oh, guns are not going to protect you against the U.S. government.
Ha! Because after all, if you really want to take on the U.S. government, if you want to overthrow the U.S. government, you're going to need F-15s.
You're going to need nuclear weapons.
And I'm thinking to myself, the January 6th protesters were unarmed.
They didn't have F-15s.
They didn't have nuclear weapons.
They didn't even have any guns.
And yet you're accusing them of what?
Overthrowing the U.S. government.
So these shameless characters on the left, these Biden people, they don't even bother to put two and two together.
They don't think through the logic of what they're saying.
The whole notion that the real problem on the street is law-abiding gun owners.
And so Biden is thinking of all these different ways.
One of his big ideas, by the way, is to go after something called ghost guns.
Ghost guns.
Well, it's a gun without a serial number.
Now, anyone, any American has the right to make a gun legally and not put a serial number on it.
But Biden is acting like this is some kind of atrocity.
Why? Because, quote, this is the White House, Well, first of all, very few crimes are actually solved that way.
Because, by and large, if a gun is a serial number, that only tells you...
Who bought it originally from the dealer?
And that's not how criminals get guns.
Criminals don't go to dealers and say, I'd like to buy a gun.
Let me put my name in your registry.
No, they get it from friends.
They get it from the crime circuit.
They get illegal guns off the street.
These are not people who pass background checks and so on.
So what you have here is a remedy that bears no relationship to the original problem.
So my prediction is you have this absurd, pretentious battle against crime.
They feel like they have to do something.
But of course, they're the cause of the problem.
Democratic cities, even when Biden talks about the root causes of the problem, by which I guess he means broken families, dangerous neighborhoods, very little, few jobs available, that's the legacy of the Democratic Party.
That's what the Democrats have done in these neighborhoods, and they've done it pretty consciously.
I'm not saying they set out to do it.
I'm saying that when they did it, they realized, you know what, this is paying off for us politically.
We're still getting 60%, 70%, 80% of the vote in these areas.
Why change things?
So the Democrats are culpable from the top to the bottom.
They're responsible for the problem.
They're also responsible for the root cause of the problem.
And what is the likelihood in that context that they are going to be the ones to fix the problem?
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One of the fun things about following critical race theory is that it gets stupider and stupider.
And in doing so, it gets more entertaining.
Because just when you think you've seen the dumbest thing ever, it gets dumber.
I remember from several years ago, this actually goes back to the days when I lived in Washington, D.C., There was a major outcry against a local D.C. official who had used the word niggardly.
And the idea was, this guy's a racist.
He needs to be eradicated from government.
There were demonstrations outside the guy's house and so on.
And then he pulls out a dictionary and goes, niggardly is actually a word.
It means frugal.
It means miserly.
It's been in the English language for a very long time, but apparently these morons didn't know that.
They thought, oh, this guy's using racial epithets.
So this is the level of discourse you're dealing with here.
You're dealing with just, I would say, intellectual barbarism.
Well, intellectual barbarism has now come to the academy.
Here's an example that even puts my example to shame.
Apparently, an astronomy course at Cornell.
Now, Cornell is sort of the stupid school of the Ivy League.
I mean, he's like, don't say that!
You don't have to bring... Are you going to bring up the fact that they have a hotel school and they're training chefs along with liberal...
Yeah, I am. I actually am.
Anyway, it doesn't surprise me that it's Cornell.
Let's put it that way. They apparently have a course in the astronomy department.
I mean, one thing that this was like in the women's studies department or the black studies department.
This is in astronomy. It's called Black Holes, Race, and the Cosmos.
And in the description it goes, is there a connection between the cosmos and the idea of racial blackness?
What? So, according to the catalog, I'm now saying, they say, although it is, quote, conventional wisdom that black holes have nothing to do with race, apparently an astronomy professor named Nicholas Battaglia and a comparative literature professor named Parisa Vaziri, these two clowns evidently think that black holes are kind of racist, and they're going to be...
By the way...
They're drawing in the text that you read, Emory University English Professor Michelle Wright's book, The Physics of Blackness.
Now, you know, several years ago, there was a professor who wanted to expose the stupidity of these race theorists.
His name was Alan Sokol.
And so what he did was he...
Submitted a paper to an academic journal called Social Text, a left-wing academic journal.
And he was trying to show that physics was racist.
And he made up all kinds of garbage.
His whole paper was a hoax, but it used the kind of fashionable terminology, institutional racism in the cosmos, and the cosmic privilege.
So the whole thing was a joke.
But the idiots at social text were such morons that they were like, yeah, let's publish.
This is amazing. This is like cutting-edge stuff.
So these idiots who basically know nothing about science decide that they're going to publish this critical race analysis of science.
Anyway, Sokol then busted them.
He said, I made all this stuff up.
This is all a big joke.
And these guys were exposed as fools.
But again, something that is satire 10 years ago now becomes something that's taken with utmost seriousness.
You know, I can almost predict where this course is going to go.
Black holes, Dinesh, you know, why are they called black?
Who came up with the term black?
Doesn't black imply that there's something dark and dangerous about these holes?
So the basic idea here now is going to the ancient distinction between light and darkness.
And there's some implication that the white man must have come up with this idea that...
No, the white man didn't come up with it.
The whole notion that the sun represents light...
And the night represents darkness.
And that the sun, in that sense, has a positive connotation.
And the darkness, a negative, a more scary connotation.
This trope, this idea, is in every single culture known to man.
Why? Because it corresponds with day and night.
And so, for example, the early Christians, a really good example, they would talk about the sun as reflecting the light of God.
They would often talk about hell as representing sort of darkness.
But in no way were the early Christians suggesting that somehow blacks are destined to go to hell or whites are going to go to heaven nonsense.
In fact, Origen, one of the fathers of the early church, said the human soul is originally black, meaning the connection with darkness.
But through divine redemption, all souls can be brightened.
And in fact, Origen contrasts the Ethiopian's natural color, which he says is, quote, caused by the heat of the sun, with the blackness in the soul, which he says is caused by sin and dereliction.
So we see here that what the critical race theory people are doing is they are superimposing their meaning onto events, and in this case, even the physical universe.
I don't know if I've mentioned on the show, but I saw on social media, the Washington Post, an article was talking about the racism inherent in the migratory patterns of birds.
Now, birds aren't racist.
Planets aren't racist.
Black holes aren't racist.
What's a black hole?
Well, a black hole is essentially a concentration of matter where the gravitational force is so strong that when objects come into the reach of the black hole, they're sort of sucked into the hole.
There's actually a remarkable recent finding Confirming the theories of Stephen Hawking, there were two black holes that kind of came together and merged.
And Stephen Hawking had predicted that if two black holes, each with a kind of known surface area, merged, that the effect of it would be to keep the surface area now the same.
So kind of 2 plus 2 equals 4.
And Hawking was stunningly vindicated.
So this is real physics. This is real science to be contrasted with the mock science, academic caricature, and sheer tomfoolery that has come to be known as critical race theory.
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I don't have that many regrets in my life.
I have some. One of my regrets on the learning front is that I never really learned much about music.
And by music here, I'm talking about classical music.
I never really learned much about other types of music either, but that's a good thing.
But on classical music, it's something that my mom actually tried to push it on me and my brother, teach us to Piano lessons, violin lessons.
We flatly refused.
My sister ended up taking some piano lessons.
And then later, when I was at Dartmouth, one of my professors suggested I take a course in music appreciation, music criticism.
But I thought it was just too ridiculous, and I never did it.
And I've regretted it because later, as I got into the movie business, I realized how important music is.
Debbie, of course, is a musician and performs and knows...
Pretty much everything there is to know about music.
But when you make movies, you realize that the musical score is the emotional kind of undercurrent of the story.
Just take a Disney movie, for example, subtract the music, the whole thing would become silly.
You can't even watch it. So the music is absolutely critical.
I'm very happy for this reason, when I saw the movie Amadeus, because, I don't know if you've seen the movie, but if you haven't, you should.
It's a fantastic movie, mainly because it's kind of a movie with a sufficiently riveting story that the appreciation of Mozart that is delivered by the character known as Salieri, Salieri is presented as a court musician who's kind of a rival to Mozart and he doesn't like Mozart.
He ultimately brings down Mozart.
The implication is that he somehow poisons Mozart.
But Salieri, turns out, may not be a very good musician, but he was a really tremendous music critic.
Because he discusses in the movie, as you listen to it, he discusses just fragments from The Marriage of Figaro, from Don Giovanni, Mozart's Great Opera, also from Mozart's Requiem Mass, and you get a real feeling for what it is that is so great about Mozart, the music.
Now, Mozart, the man, in the movie isn't presented.
He's presented as a little bit of a buffoonish character, a little bit of a scoundrel.
And it turns out that all of that can sort of be ignored.
In fact, I have in front of me an article from The New Yorker.
It's called Antonio Salieri's Revenge.
But it goes on to point out biographically...
That the whole portrait of Salieri as this lousy musician who hated Mozart is actually not true.
The whole thing was kind of made up for the movie.
So, it's a fun plot, but you should ignore it.
Mozart, as shown in the movie, wasn't really like that.
Salieri wasn't even really like that.
It turns out, apparently, Salieri was a very accomplished musician in his own day.
He was the court musician, the so-called Kappelmeister to the Emperor of Austria.
The emperor himself, who's presented in Amadeus as kind of a little bit of a clown, he has no sense of musical time, he wasn't like that either, and he was in fact a great patron of music and sponsored a lot of important music of the period.
I would say that as one thinks about classical music, the three great names that come to mind, and of course it's a big constellation, would be of course Beethoven and Bach and Mozart.
And knowing a little more, only a little bit more about music, as I do now, I would probably have to put Bach at the top, Mozart in the second rank, and Beethoven third.
But this is just a subjective characterization, and I would admit not even a very highly informed characterization, It just reflects my musical taste.
And so, Amadeus, if you haven't seen it, it is really great because, at least for someone like me, it draws me into the world of classical music, tunes my ear a little bit to what it is about the music that makes it soar.
Music is really strange because, unlike the other representational arts, Music is not about anything.
I mean, a painting is about the subject being painted.
A sculpture is a sculpture of the person or the thing being sculpted.
Architecture is about physical buildings.
And so art in general is sort of representational.
Even a poem is about something.
It's about love or it's about this or it's about that.
But when you listen to a piece of classical music...
You have to ask, what is it about?
And there's no obvious answer to that question.
The philosopher Schopenhauer thought that music connects us to a realm outside the universe because it touches something that goes beyond experience.
Beyond experience. I think a very profound philosophical idea I'll discuss at another time.
But here I just want to say that I'm very grateful to Amadeus for introducing me and doing no more than that To this wonderful world of classical music, which is part of the greatness of the Western tradition.
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I always look forward to these questions and we've got a new one for today.
Listen. Hey Dinesh, I have two questions for you.
Number one, how did you decide to go to Dartmouth when you were I'm curious as to why you didn't go to Stanford or one of the Pacific Coast schools.
And number two, I know you like to discuss philosophy.
Admiral Stockdale, when he got out of a prisoner of war camp, stated that he got through the Hanoi Hilton years because of his knowledge of a Stoic philosopher, Epictetus.
And I was always curious as to how that helped him get through his time as a prisoner of war.
And if you could explain how Stoic philosophy helped Admiral Stockdale.
Thank you. Wow.
This is Jeffrey. That's a terrific question.
Let me answer the first part of it.
Well, the way I got to Dartmouth was sort of not entirely by my own volition.
My high school counselor in the small school I attended in Arizona—this is Patagonia, Arizona, on the Mexican border—my high school counselor, Mr.
Hackett, came up to me and said, Hey, Dinesh, you know, have you thought about going to college— Most of the kids in this class, senior class, are just going to go to the University of Arizona.
They're not going to go to college at all.
If you're interested, you're going to be my project for the year.
So he sort of shepherded me through my college application process.
He actually picked out the colleges that I applied to.
I did apply to Dartmouth and Yale on the East Coast.
I don't remember what I applied to on the West Coast.
I know I got into Swarthmore and Oberlin, so he picked these two colleges.
Tiny schools. Anyway, so I ended up at Dartmouth.
I picked Dartmouth in the end myself by going to an alumni club meeting in Tucson, the nearest city, meeting with some Dartmouth grads, and they were like...
They just seemed like very interesting, successful, jovial characters.
Of course, they didn't tell me anything about the snow.
So that's how I got to Dartmouth.
It was a combination of Mr.
Hackett and a little bit of just whimsical selection on my part.
But I certainly hadn't been to the East Coast.
I hadn't checked it out. None of that.
Now... Turning to stoicism, this is a huge and important topic and I might do a whole segment, a couple of segments on it tomorrow to go into it in a little more depth.
But I just want to focus on Admiral Stockdale here and on Epictetus.
So here's Admiral Stockdale.
And he's not only captured, but he's being threatened and he's being tortured by the North Vietnamese.
And the question becomes, how does one endure that kind of extreme external pressure?
Let's put it in a larger context.
Think of Jesus on the cross enduring thrashings and beatings and being forced to carry the cross up the hill.
Think, for example, and this is, I credit Debbie with these examples because I mentioned it to her this morning.
She's like, think of someone who's being raped.
How do you get through something as horrific as that, that kind of a fundamental violation?
Well, or someone who's about to be murdered.
I mean, how do you even get your head around the idea that I'm going to be killed?
I'm going to be killed and even though I fight back, the great likelihood is that my heart is going to stop beating and I will end up in a pool of blood dead.
Well, the answer is there's one way to do it and this is connected philosophically to the idea of stoicism.
And the idea is that you have to somehow separate your mind from your body and separate your mind from the world.
It's almost as if you say to yourself, I am my mind.
And the rest of it, even my body.
I have a body, but I am not my body.
And so you can rape my body, you can do what you want with my body, but there's a part of me, the most important part of me, that remains inviolate, that remains, you may say, unraped.
Or you're going to kill me, but nevertheless, my mind is secure.
You're going to destroy my body, and I recognize that.
But my mind, in that sense, remains free.
Solzhenitsyn himself said something very similar, where he said that in the gulag, my mind was still free, because I never submitted that over to them.
So now we turn to Epictetus, born a slave.
Epictetus, by the way, lived about 86 A.D. to about 100.
Well, his dates are a little uncertain, but he lived into the second century.
The second century AD. He was a slave, and he was also lame.
Later in life, he was freed by his owner, and he started a kind of philosophical school.
And the core idea of Epictetus is very simple.
I'm just going to read it. Because he puts it very well.
You are invincible if nothing outside the will can disconcert you.
It's kind of a radical idea that you are fully in control of your own will.
Epictetus even says, I'm not quoting him again, if someone succeeds in provoking you, realize that your mind is complicit in the provocation.
Why? Because if your mind ignored it, if it didn't go along, you wouldn't be provoked.
Here's Epictetus again.
He goes, stop applying good and bad to externals and only describe things under our control that way.
Nothing that happens to you is good or bad.
What you do about it, how you think about it, is under your control and the goodness and badness of your action is in your mind and it is available for your choice.
Epictetus gives a small example of a guy who's practicing to play the lyre, to play, let's say, a musical instrument.
And he goes, look how relaxed the guy is.
Look how much he's enjoying it.
Look how he's exhibiting his art.
He goes, now take the same guy and put him before an audience.
Suddenly he feels anxiety.
Oh. And Epictetus says, where does the anxiety come from?
And he goes, the anxiety comes from how other people are likely to respond to him playing the liar.
And Epictetus goes, forget about that.
You have no control over how other people respond.
Now think of a guy applying for a job.
And you've worked hard for the job.
You've got the right credentials.
You go in and you do your best at the interview.
And then they tell you, come back tomorrow and we'll tell you if you got the job.
Should you sleep soundly at night?
Epictetus says absolutely.
Why? Because, says Epictetus, whether you get the job or not is not in your control.
Don't even give it a second thought.
The only thing you should pay attention to is, did I, in fact, equip myself for this job?
Did I prepare sufficiently for the interview?
Did I equip myself honorably in the interview, give an accurate picture of who I am?
If I have done that, I've done all I can do.
I now need to go to bed, relax, have a sound night's sleep.
The outcome is not in my hands.
And so the philosophy here, and you can see how it helped Admiral Stockdale, is these are people who are doing harm to me.
By doing it, they're harming their own souls.
They're not harming my soul.
Why? Because my soul is untouched.
Yes, they can burn me.
Yes, they can put me in a dark room.
Yes, they can deprive me of food.
To that degree, they can harm my body.
But harming my body is not the same thing as harming the most important part of me, which is my mind, which is my soul.
You can see here how Stoicism is a very spiritual philosophy.
The Christians, by the way, admired it.
The early Christians, there were a lot of people who called themselves Christian Stoics.
Why? Because essentially they did what Christ did in the Passion and also on the cross, which is to say Christ withstood bravely, without whining and complaining.
You had no sense that Jesus was blubbering on his way up the Golgotha path.
You don't get the sense that Jesus was...
Why? Jesus prayed to God.
Why are you doing this?
And then he stopped and stoically, you might say, endured what he knew he had to endure.
And I think this philosophy, which is kind of the opposite of the philosophy you hear so much today, people talk about, you know, they always want to exhibit their feelings, put their feelings on parade.
Oh, I'm very passionate.
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