May 15, 2024 - Doug Collins Podcast
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| You want to listen to a podcast? | |
| By who? | |
| Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins. | |
| How is it? | |
| The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life. | |
| I could not believe my ears. | |
| This house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule. | |
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| I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found. | |
| It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else. | |
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| Because we won an election. | |
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| Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast. | |
| Glad you're here with us. | |
| Midweek, alright. | |
| Can you believe it? | |
| The biggest thing I can't believe, folks, in any of you listening on the podcast, is that we're in the middle of May. | |
| I mean, it just seems like yesterday we turned around and we were just getting into this wonderful year called 2024. And, you know, it is now... | |
| We're into the middle of May, and it's just an amazing kind of thing, considering we're going full blast. | |
| But consider this, we've only been four and a half months into this year, and we're still almost six months away, five and a half months away from the election. | |
| So we've got a lot to talk about, a lot to do, and I keep telling you, As we go through this, the election cycle is the longest we've seen in history. | |
| And I think this is gonna play out in something I wanna talk about today with you. | |
| I like to sometimes delve behind the scenes. | |
| Again, we talk about stuff here on the podcast that I don't think a lot of others talk about it in the way we do. | |
| And that is something that came up over the weekend, this past weekend, with the Trump rally in New Jersey. | |
| And so I want to lay this out. | |
| It's called stretching the field. | |
| And it's not only something that I think, you know, President Trump alluded to on Saturday, but it's something that Democrats have been doing for a little while. | |
| It's something that Republicans have done in times past. | |
| But I want to explain stretching the field. | |
| I want to explain the problems you've got that has led to this issue. | |
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| So as we do this today, let's get into it here after the break and we'll be ready to go. | |
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| Okay, we talked about this in the intro and I was going to pick up and get the lay of the landscape here. | |
| Let's talk about what I'm talking about when it's called stretching the film. | |
| The big thing that happened over the weekend is the Trump rally. | |
| The Trump rally, I think, set a lot of people back in The thought that on a Mother's Day weekend, Trump would draw anywhere. | |
| I mean, even the city itself of Lava, New Jersey was actually saying that they were in 80,000 plus territory here. | |
| Even you've heard a lot up to 100,000. | |
| You've seen some leftist groups posting pictures on social media of early in the rally when there's probably only about 10,000 people there, still calling it about 4,000 people. | |
| So again, they want every way they can In some ways to say that this rally was insignificant. | |
| I think that's problematic for any leftist to try and do that. | |
| But I also want to be very careful here. | |
| It also doesn't assure a win. | |
| Now, look, Joe Biden can't draw flies, except for himself. | |
| I mean, he can't. | |
| I mean, nobody wants to come see him. | |
| I don't think they could pay a million dollars and get 100,000 people to come out and see Joe Biden. | |
| It's just not going to happen. | |
| Which confronts the thought that he's not possible of winning the election, which I will tell and remind all conservative listeners on this podcast that he can still win. | |
| And the problem that he can still win is if Republicans take this for granted and we don't stick to the message of economics, border security, the portraying of our allies in the Middle East, Israel in particular, and, you know, doing the things that, | |
| you know, the spending, the tearing down of our energy development, these all kinds of things that can be Very much used in this campaign by Donald Trump, and he's doing a good job of staying fairly focused on those things and not getting caught up in the extraneous that has bogged us down in some campaigns here in the last couple of years. | |
| What does it mean, though, is that it means we're popular, but we got a long way to go. | |
| One of the things to realize is that when The narrative coming out of this is what does it mean in New Jersey? | |
| Now, Donald Trump, as he always does, made a very big deal. | |
| We're gonna play in New Jersey, we're gonna play in New York, we're gonna play in Virginia. | |
| All are good things. | |
| Now, that's what's called stretching the field. | |
| And now, is the likelihood of New Jersey flipping a high probability? | |
| No, it's not. | |
| Can it be done? | |
| Sure. | |
| It's a possibility, but there's a lot of things that have to happen in between now and then. | |
| But Virginia, especially if these numbers get closer, Virginia is a definite possibility. | |
| New York, Lee Zeldin, a friend of this show, but also a friend of mine, he showed that New York statewide has more potential than we gave it credit for, especially under the absolutely dreadful leadership of Kathy Hochul and the other craziness that comes out of Albany up there. | |
| So again, there's places there that we can look, To see what's happening. | |
| And as I heard, a Democrat strategist today actually basically said this. | |
| He said that really what he thought was happening as much in New Jersey as anywhere else was the trolling of Donald Trump. | |
| Now, you can say, well, if he had 100,000 people show up in New Jersey at a rally, he's gonna have all these people go vote for him in New Jersey, and New Jersey will flip. | |
| Let me remind you, and you can go back to any of these programs that carried it, any of the broadcasts that carried it, many of them were talking about the fact that they had drove from Georgia, from Michigan, from Ohio, from Pennsylvania, from other places, to be at this rally. | |
| And that's great. | |
| But it doesn't signify 100,000 people from the same state. | |
| And I think this is something that we as supporters of Donald Trump, wanting to see him get elected again, have to acknowledge that these rallies become their own They draw out from all over and people will travel all over the place. | |
| He was in Rome just a few weeks ago, about two months ago now, which is hard to believe it's going by this fast, and I was over there, there were people who came in from other states. | |
| I mean, it just draws this kind of crowd because people want to be at a Trump rally. | |
| That's good. | |
| It shows the significance. | |
| It shows the influence. | |
| It shows that our base is excited, but it's got to get outside the base. | |
| You're not going to win the primary states. | |
| You weren't going to win the battleground states. | |
| You're not going to win a general election, simply depending on the attendance at a rally. | |
| That sort of got shown in other races. | |
| And in 2020 played a big deal when, you know, the unpopularity among others of Trump played out along with issues that surrounded the election and COVID and everything else. | |
| So I simply say this to say this is Donald Trump being Donald Trump. | |
| And this is what I like about this election. | |
| He is going into areas that nobody thinks he should go into, that liberals have wrote off saying there's no way Donald Trump wins New Jersey, no way Donald Trump wins Virginia, no way Donald Trump wins And everywhere he goes, he is then lifting the ticket. | |
| I talked about this in an interview a couple weeks ago, that what he was doing was raising the profile and raising the level of Republican engagement and involvement in these states that not only may help him in the presidential race, but it helps the state congressional candidates, it helps the state House candidates, it helps the state Senate candidates. | |
| And if there's any, you know, constitutional officers going on in that time, it helps raise that profile up of, you know, the party itself. | |
| That is where I think people have sort of unnecessary. | |
| Now, we've had some losses in the last few years in our under tickets, and we've had some bad performing candidates and some others. | |
| But I think now with under the leadership of this Trump campaign team, is that Suzy Wiles, Chris LaCivita, these others, they're focusing on saying, okay, what can we do to increase our chances not only in this cycle what can we do to increase our chances not only in this cycle for our own campaign, but how do we then generate this to help maintain a majority to flip the Senate? | |
| Those are all going to be important parts. | |
| Now, the way he can do this and the reason that he is able to spend some time in New Jersey in the midst of the trial, which should never be happening. | |
| I mean, when you're losing MSNBC host to say the fact that the Trump trial in New York probably should have never been brought in and it would have never been brought against anybody other than Donald Trump and that Joe Biden's on the wrong trajectory. | |
| When you're losing MSNBC host and you're a Democrat, you got a problem. | |
| And what they're seeing is the consistency of polling in Any issues surrounding Donald Trump and Joe Biden, and especially Joe Biden. | |
| The interesting part that you have to see here is the disapproval rating is 20 plus points on Joe Biden. | |
| Joe Biden is not, if he gets into the 40s, it's 40.1. | |
| He's staying in 38, 39% job approval rating. | |
| Right direction, wrong direction, the country is 65 to 70% wrong direction. | |
| These are the Kind of numbers that are hard to overcome. | |
| Now, granted, the Trump team has a similar issue. | |
| There's the favorability of likings and all that they're having to deal with. | |
| But one of the reasons he's able to go into something I want to call, and I want to alert our conservative folks out there, you're watching elections, and why lower level tickets matter, why having candidates fielded up and down the ballot matter. | |
| This is something that's been going on in our country now for 25, 30 plus years. | |
| Democrats got away from it. | |
| Republicans began to use it in the late 1990s, early 2000s, especially here in Georgia and other places. | |
| You would begin fielding candidates in areas where the Republicans have never won, such as 2002, the governor in the state of Georgia was elected for the first time as a Republican. | |
| That was Sonny Perdue. | |
| 2002, many people still forget this. | |
| But it was coming from if we were running candidates stronger and stronger through the 90s into the 2000s to take on statewide Democrats, which then emboldened offices below the statewide level to see Republicans being able to challenge Democrats in areas that they've never won before. | |
| It's called stretching the field. | |
| What that means is that the majority is not able to only have to focus on weak areas. | |
| They then have to focus on areas or spend a little bit of money or time or however you want to look at it to keep areas that they never thought they would be having to spend that time, money, or effort in. | |
| In Georgia, for example, when the governor got elected, you had five state senators flip from Democrat to Republican, which just gave us the state Senate. | |
| By the next cycle, the election rolled around 2005, Republicans took control of the Georgia House. | |
| So for the first time, you had a governor and a House and a Senate in Georgia that were all Republicans since the Civil War. | |
| And they did that by going directly at districts that had not been able to be won by Republicans, but now because of either work or change of mood, change of a lot of things, they were able to do that. | |
| In Georgia, a gentleman who ran against the then longest-serving Speaker of the House in the country and beat him during this time, and that was after a redistricting push and others. | |
| But that was a seat in which she had been held by 40 plus years by Tom Murphy, of which she was almost 30 years as Speaker. | |
| That was a powerful position, but again, it put money and time and effort into where they had to try and protect seats that they hadn't protected before. | |
| Which brings me back to Donald Trump's statement that we have alluded to here, that he was going to be playing, officially playing, as he said, in New Jersey and other parts. | |
| The reason he's able to do that is because of the battleground states, the true states that are going to be flippable or changeable or move as we have seen in the past few elections. | |
| And when you look at those that the press has deemed as possibilities, you look at Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Nevada. | |
| And if you go down that list, Joe Biden is getting beat in every one of those battleground states. | |
| The closest would be Wisconsin, and I've seen some of those as a dead heat. | |
| That means that the message right now is resonating, that the immigration message is resonating, that the economic message is resonating, that the other message Democrats are trying to play from race to Palestine to abortion to others is not playing in the way that they thought it would be playing. | |
| That means that right now, instead of having to go to every week, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, or Nevada, the president is able to go and stretch the field and go into a place like New Georgia where he picks up more votes, where he can maybe pick up And possibly even contend. | |
| And if that happens, then Democrats are going to have to spend money in New Jersey to ensure that Donald Trump doesn't come close or affects races down the bottom. | |
| Virginia, the same way. | |
| If Democrats are spending money in Virginia, that means they can't spend money as much money in Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Nevada and Georgia and these other states. | |
| It means that they're limited in their options. | |
| It means that they have to be able to depend on Putting their finances in certain areas so that they can maybe keep what they have, but also not lose what they have. | |
| And I think that's the big issue coming out of this storyline is that the Trump team, boosted by polling at this point, says that the election For Donald Trump is very winnable. | |
| An early projection of Electoral College has Trump, without leaning states or others, has him at 312 and Biden at 226. So as you look at this going forward, The question becomes is how long can this last? | |
| How long can the position between running in areas where we know that you're going to see Donald Trump and you're going to see Joe Biden in Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, all these So-called battleground states. | |
| If these numbers are holding into August and September after the conventions, then Joe Biden has a serious, serious problem. | |
| Because what we're also seeing in these numbers is the numbers are corresponding to Republican voters that are going to be Republican for Donald Trump that maybe had not been Republican voters at any level in the past. | |
| And the This makes the Democrats have to spend money in areas that they've not been able to, you know, they not had to spend money in because there was no chance of them getting beat. | |
| But if you're limiting your resources to have to cover for states that you normally not had to cover, that means that you're limited in what you can spend in states that are winnable, but are very much in place. | |
| So I think you're going to see a lot of this. | |
| Now, at the end of the day, would flipping New Jersey be a Massive coup for the Trump team, yes. | |
| I mean, by no doubt. | |
| No one, you know, and I think even his own team, you know, has the realistic expectations that they're going to dump everything they have into flipping New Jersey. | |
| It's just not probably in the cards at this point. | |
| Will they do well and can they push up and get closer in New Jersey? | |
| Yeah, and I think it's worth doing because you've got a lot of other races, you've got a lot of other things that that candidacy at the top of the ballot can actually help with. | |
| New York being very similar, California being very similar. | |
| But again, it's a matter of resources. | |
| If it cost the Trump campaign basically nothing to troll Joe Biden, just like George H.W. Bush did with Dukakis back in 1988 when he went into Boston Harbor and just really into Dukakis' back door and taunted him in the election, those are the kind of things that see this kind of Election momentum switch and turn. | |
| And for all that they have tried to do to get Donald Trump, they've not been able to do it. | |
| And the court cases, the constant smearing by the mainstream media on this is just showing that Donald Trump is striking a nerve. | |
| People are not Buying the height that he is a danger to the country, a danger to the world. | |
| It's just not coming across that way. | |
| So this is exciting for me because I've seen the Democrats do this for a lot of years now, is they're trying to grow back slowly but surely in states like Georgia and others, where they're running candidates in areas where they're not going to win, but by even gaining a several percentage points in the total, they're adding to their statewide. | |
| Which, in turn, could help a statewide candidate in a small race pull a major upset. | |
| So, as good as you can feel this five and a half months, six months out in this presidential race, you've got to be feeling okay with Donald Trump's position. | |
| Now, there's still this court case in New York to resolve, which is a disastrous joke. | |
| You've still got the other issues that are going on, and you've got To be able to turn and motivate voters to come out. | |
| And that's something that we saw in 2018, 2020, that we're Not handled as well as they could have been. | |
| We didn't have people ready for door knocking. | |
| We didn't have people ready for canvassing. | |
| We didn't have ready, you know, to help anybody vote in every legal way possible, especially if they were going to be one of our voters. | |
| We have to keep that in mind. | |
| So with all of this going on and everything that's coming up right now, I just thought, you know, again, aside from the crowd, aside from everything else, this is the Trump campaign playing the number one, Donald Trump's strengths. | |
| Number two, Telling the Democrats, you're on your heels and we're going to keep pushing you to have to spend resources in areas where you don't think you have to spend resources. | |
| And number three, you've got a candidate that nobody likes and can't draw flies. | |
| And I think that's going to be a big part as we come in. | |
| Remember, I've predicted this over a year ago. | |
| James can assure us on this if he wants to chime in on it. | |
| You know, one of our Friday signs, he can say, Doug told us this, that The issue is going to come down, and if these numbers are hardening, as they seem to be hardening now, and they're still hardened at the end of the summer, this race could end up being a blowout and get done in the last couple of days, | |
| last weekend as it was in the Reagan-Carter race, in which people actually stepped back and said, okay, Am I going to vote for somebody that has mean tweets and he says stuff that I don't agree with and he's off the cuff? | |
| Or am I going to basically vote for somebody who really has difficulty knowing where they are? | |
| Is that where you want the United States to be? | |
| And do you want Vice President Harris to have to fill in for President Biden if something were to go wrong with Joe Biden? | |
| And I think that's going to become the question. | |
| It's going to be on more and more people's lips. | |
| It's not going to be a really question, although it works very well for the Biden The pathetic economy is, are you better off now than you were four years ago? | |
| The question is really going to be, are we getting better or getting worse? | |
| And do you want to have a chance that Joe Biden, who has seemingly shown himself to be incompetent in so many areas and getting more and more detached from reality in the speeches and other things, Is that what they want? | |
| Or do they want somebody that they may have some issues with personally, but they want to see the country put back on the right track? | |
| They want to see the country's interest put first. | |
| They want to see somebody who has been there and done that. | |
| I think that's going to be your key as the race is coming up. | |
| But right now, Joe Biden cannot go into Georgia and draw that kind of crowd. | |
| Joe Biden cannot go into Oklahoma and draw that kind of crowd. | |
| In fact, Joe Biden can't go into New York and draw that kind of crowd. | |
| That is the difference between the enthusiasm gap and the stretching the field that Donald Trump is doing right now, as opposed to Biden, who seems to be in disbelief that Donald Trump could be ahead like he is. | |
| So, watch this race. | |
| The stretching of the field is happening. | |
| That means that there's some good feelings from the Trump campaign on what they think It can actually happen, but also there's the danger in getting into the look how many people showed up to our rally mentality instead of making sure all of those, wherever they come from, whatever state they come from, go back home, they register voters, they do whatever they can to make sure that they're voting on election day. | |
| So I'm glad to see the Republicans stretch the field, glad to see Donald Trump mentioning it and talking about it. | |
| That's what Republicans have to do to win. | |
| They got to stretch the field. | |
| They got to make the Democrats work for it. | |
| So, with that, we're done with Wednesday. |
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