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Welcome to the Doug Collins Podcast.
My name is Chip Blake.
I will be your guest host today.
It is Wednesday, April 17th.
We've got a good show today.
We've got a lot to talk about.
We're going to start the show in a little bit of a time capsule.
We're going to go back in time to 2013-2014 and talk about what happened in New Jersey with Governor Chris Christie Bridgegate.
Got a reason for doing that.
Stick around and listen, and we'll walk through that.
We're going to talk about a bizarre event that happened last week at the Bakersfield, California City Council meeting.
I don't know if you guys saw that, but we're going to set the table and go over.
There's a reason we're talking about what happened on the Bakersfield City Council, so we'll touch on that.
Staying in the state of California, Southern Cal, USC, the Trojans, they have a valedictorian who the leadership brass at Southern Cal has made a decision on Monday and just kind of hit news they have a valedictorian who the leadership brass at Southern Cal has made a decision on Monday I saw some activity on it that the valedictorian is not going to be able to speak at the May commencement ceremonies.
So we'll talk about that.
And then we will end the show and we will talk about the developments that happened in the House yesterday with Thomas Massey from Kentucky announcing that he would co-sponsor a motion to vacate the chair.
So stick with us and we'll touch on all those issues and more.
We'll be back in just a minute on the Doug Collins Podcast.
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We're going to get started in a time capsule and James is going to join us in a minute.
Before he does, let me talk about, I want to go back in time and talk about Bridgegate.
I'm sure everybody that is listening to this podcast remembers Bridgegate, but I'm going to walk through some of the timeline and the details On Bridgegate, because I think it's important to look at kind of events that happened in the past to talk about how they relate to events that are happening now.
And so Bridgegate, if everybody remembers, was a political scandal in the state of New Jersey in 2013 and 2014. And it involved a staff member And political appointees of then Governor Chris Christie, colluding to create traffic jams in Fort Lee, New Jersey by closing lanes at the main toll plaza for the upper level of the George Washington Bridge.
So on September 9th of 2013, two of the three toll lanes for local street entrance were closed Welcome to my show!
Local officials, emergency services and the public were not notified of the lane closers which Fort Lee declared a threat to public safety.
The resulting gridlock ended when the two lanes were reopened On September 13th, three days later, by an order from Port Authority Executive Director and Democrat from New York, Patrick Foy.
He said that the hasty and ill-informed decision could have endangered lives and violated state and federal laws.
So, well, why were the toll lanes blocked?
Well, it's been suggested that these lanes had been closed to cause a massive traffic problem, and if that was the case...
And afterwards, it was deemed that it was, that certainly succeeded.
So it was for political reasons, and especially theorized that they were a retributive attack against the mayor of Fort Lee, Mark Socklich, a Democrat who had not supported Christie as a candidate in his 2013 re-election as New Jersey governor.
So there were investigations into this lane closure.
That's centered on several of Christie's appointees and staff, including David Wildstein, who ordered the lanes closed, and Bill Barone, who had told the New York Assembly Transportation Committee that the closures were for a traffic study.
An investigation led by the U.S. attorney resulted in a nine-count indictment.
Against Bridget and Kelly, who is the Deputy Chief of Staff to Governor Christie at the time, Bill Barone and David Wildstein as well.
Wildstein entered a guilty plea and he testified against Barone and Kelly, who were found guilty on all counts in November of 2016. David Sampson pleaded guilty in one felony count of conspiracy in July 2016 for LAX, unrelated to the lane closures but unearthed by the federal Bridgegate investigation.
So, James, why do I bring up Bridgegate?
Any idea why I would start the show on Wednesday, April 17th and talk about a scandal, a political scandal that happened back in the year 2013?
If I had to take a guess, it has something to do with Bridges.
The gentleman is correct.
James always is the provider of wisdom here on the Doug Collins podcast.
Look what happened.
I want to go back.
I want to talk about what happened on Monday.
Now, James, let's remember what happened this weekend.
And I'm talking about something other than the Masters.
On Sunday, Iran attacked Israel.
Now, Israel, with their missile defense and air defenses, were able to thwart a lot of those incoming drones and was able to thwart a lot of that attack.
Still a big day.
I mean, Israel got attacked by Iran and pro-Palestinian demonstrators on Monday morning thought it would be a good idea to shut down airport highways and key bridges all across major U.S. cities.
And the first evidence we got of that was live on Monday.
When we saw the demonstrators blocking the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, they also blocked the road leading into O'Hare International Airport around 7 a.m.
on a Monday.
Now, O'Hare Airport at 7 a.m.
on a Monday is going to be a pretty crowded place.
The reason I kind of bring this up, James, is that If it was a safety issue and security issue back in 2013, and look, these individuals who ordered the closure, it was a bad decision.
It wasn't a good decision.
It wasn't a good idea at political retaliation.
There are other ways to retaliate other than doing what they did, and it wasn't right.
You know, they paid a price.
They paid a legal price.
I believe ultimately in 2019, most of the charges or most of the convictions were overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court.
But, you know, these pro-Palestinian protesters in Chicago and San Francisco and in Oregon, I mean, there were some arrests, James.
But they were arrested for disorderly conduct.
Are you kidding me?
Disorderly conduct?
I mean, these charges of disorderly conduct, I'm sure three or four months from now, will be dropped.
If for some reason, in some jurisdictions, they are not dropped, I'm sure they'll find a way to be expunged.
This is kind of a big deal when you're closing bridges, especially A bridge like the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.
But it seems like these pro-Palestinian protesters, James, are going to be held to a much different standard.
What do you say?
I'm going to guess they're going to be held to the same standard.
They hold everyone in New York who holds up streets, which I think might be a little different.
But yeah, I don't think...
Because I think a lot of people, and this is the one thing I don't think is fair, I think a lot of people compare this to the people who stormed the Capitol.
That's been the big comparison.
And it's the only one I don't think is totally fair because, let's be honest, as important as the bridges are, it's not the Capitol and there weren't tons of politicians inside and there weren't weapons and whatever, as far as we know.
That's right.
But I look at it the way that I look at every single protest that I've seen since I've been able to fully understand a protest.
No one gets arrested for anything seriously, ever.
And it will never happen.
And that's the reason people keep doing Bridges and airports and the busiest streets in America is because they know, one, it's going to be the least amount of problems for them and the most amount of problems for everyone else.
Exactly right.
Actually, it's funny because this is not the same thing, but remember, I think it was last week we were talking and there was a family that was charged They were arrested because their son committed a school shooting, right?
They were the ones who got in trouble, too.
Oh, yes.
Right, so hopefully that precedent will help parents kind of watch their kids and do maybe a little bit more, right?
Yes.
To hopefully stop that kind of thing.
There's nothing comparable to that.
You can't just be like, all right, we're going to take out the leader of the protest and then they'll stop doing it.
There's nothing.
You don't know who runs it.
No one ever knows who runs a protest.
There's a million people in charge and they just stand in the middle of the street and they stop you from getting to work on time.
It's effective.
Yes.
And they know to do this.
In what I would call, well, liberal jurisdictions, Democrat jurisdictions, because the police in liberal jurisdictions and the leadership in these Democrat jurisdictions are going to be much kinder and have much more patience with the protesters than if you did that.
I can assure you, look, I... I'll give you an example.
I don't know that that would happen down here in Atlanta.
It would happen in Texas.
I can tell you that, right?
Even though the city of Atlanta runs Hartsfield International Airport, the airport itself is not within the city of Atlanta.
People don't know that.
I mean, when you fly into Atlanta, the city of Atlanta runs that airport, but it is not in the city of Atlanta jurisdiction.
And half the airport's almost...
well, some of the airports in Clayton County, but nonetheless, the Georgia State Patrol would show up, grab you by the neck and get you off the road.
And it wouldn't be long until those streets are cleared.
You're not gonna see a scenario like that happen in Portland, Oregon, happen in San Francisco, California, or Chicago, Illinois.
So these protesters know what jurisdictions that they are targeting when they do that.
Interesting thing is, when people think of California, certainly a Democratic state, it's been a long time since Republicans ever won statewide in California, but there are some pockets of California.
There are some Republicans in California, and we know this because even though there's an overwhelming majority of Democrats in the congressional delegation, there are Republicans that represent That are members of Congress and California represent constituents.
Now, that's not in San Francisco or downtown LA or San Jose or any of those areas, but maybe out in the Fresno, Bakersfield, Modesto area, kind of inland a little bit, maybe to the east of those big cities.
And Speaking of pro-Palestinian protesters, and this just underscores, really the whole show today kind of underscores the pretzel that the Democratic Party has tied themselves into with the base.
You can really see this week why Joe Biden's having such a difficult time dealing with trying to be a defender of Israel.
And trying to please his base on the left.
Bakersfield, California is one of the areas, as I said, in California.
It's Kevin McCarthy's hometown.
And while Kevin McCarthy no longer represents Bakersfield in Congress, his successor is Republican.
And it's a Republican area.
But there was a city council meeting last Wednesday, James.
And like most city councils all across this country, there is a general public comment section at all of these meetings.
So if you show up at the meeting, And you show, in most jurisdictions, you have to show your driver's license to prove that you're a constituent.
I probably couldn't show up at a Bakersfield City Council meeting and make public comment because I'm not a resident of Bakersfield or California.
But they had public comment last Wednesday.
And a lady by the name of Reddy Patel, Decided she would stand up and comment on a resolution that was before the Bakersfield City Council to adopt a ceasefire in Gaza.
And I'm going to read you part of Rudy Patel's comments.
Quote, I don't have faith that you'll do this, Patel says.
You guys are all horrible human beings and Jesus would have killed you himself.
I hope one day somebody brings the guillotine and kills all of you mother effers.
Despite the guillotine threat, I mean that's a pretty big statement, despite the guillotine threat, the meeting continued uninterrupted and the police, even after the threats of murder to the members of the Bakersfield City Council, the meeting continued uninterrupted and the police did not move in to apprehend her.
So later in the meeting, When discussing new security policies, Patel spoke once again, and she complained.
You're not going to believe, James, what she complained about.
She complained about metal detectors and police presence at council meetings.
She said the council, by having metal detectors and police at council meetings, is criminalizing people.
Quote, regardless of whether you elect people into office, they'll backstab you.
They'll let you die.
And for that reason, you guys want to criminalize us with metal detectors.
We'll see you at your house.
We'll murder you.
So finally, after these comments, James...
They took Patel into custody.
They booked her into a pretrial facility, and she was booked on two offenses, threatening with intent to terrorize and threatening state officials.
So, James, she spoke twice in that meeting, and I guess she felt like...
She didn't make her point the first time.
She didn't make it clear the first time.
She doubled down the second time.
There's nothing more ironic than saying, how can you treat us like criminals?
I'm going to murder you.
You know what's funny?
Because of my age.
And actually, there was a study talking about how my generation is less pro-Israel and more pro-America or something like that.
I don't know.
I think it's all nonsense.
But I think this is like the example of like...
There's nothing wrong with being pro-Palestine or pro-Israel.
Whatever you feel, fine.
Whatever.
You're probably raised somewhere.
That's your life.
I understand you may have family somewhere.
But it's these examples that keep pushing people towards one end or the other because somebody comes in and making...
I mean, that's absurd.
To come in and say we're going to use the guillotine on you is such an absurd thing to say.
But then to double down and be like, I can't believe you guys use metal detectors.
Why would you use metal detectors?
We're not criminals.
By the way, I'm going to murder you at your home.
That is easily the craziest sentence.
But that's someone, like, she's clearly, like, not all there at all.
Whatever line, whatever part of her is missing, it's very clear.
First of all, they let anyone speak at these events.
So, you know, you're a citizen.
You have the right to say whatever you want.
And she went for it.
And she went for it twice.
Not once, but twice.
I mean, she...
She wanted to be arrested.
She made it pretty clear she wanted to be arrested.
And then, ironically, James, after she was arrested at her initial hearing the next day, she sobbed uncontrollably.
And it had to be shows the complete lack of accountability.
Yeah, because she didn't know...
She was just...
She was like, if I know that, like...
Do you know what I always think?
I think that's someone who always got away with whatever they wanted to say.
Always.
Right?
There are people who have that.
There are people who, like, in your own life, I'm sure, where you...
You're talking to them and you're like, did you really just say that?
Like, you can't say that out loud in front of people.
Like, you should keep that to yourself.
But they've never been held accountable, like you said.
So finally, they got it to possibly the biggest stage that person could get it to.
And next thing you know, they're like, well, why would I be in trouble for this?
You just said you were going to murder everyone in this room.
Yeah, twice.
Twice.
Not once, but twice.
You know, it was bad enough that the police didn't take her into custody after her initial comments.
But then they let her speak again, and then they took her into custody.
I imagine there are so many people that have that mentality of like, I'm going to go into this...
This forum, I'm going to say something wild because I know it's just words and I can't get in trouble.
Well, people are going to start getting in trouble.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's no question.
No question.
And staying on the challenges that the left is having with the conflict in Israel, in Gaza, I'm going to...
This next...
This next topic I'm going to put under the category of you reap what you sow and that is a developing story coming out of the University of Southern California where they have announced that they are banning A pro-Palestinian valedictorian from speaking at their May commencement.
And I'm reading here from WKABC in Los Angeles.
So citing safety concerns, USC announced on Tuesday that a pro-Palestinian undergraduate student who is selected as the valedictorian will not be allowed to give a speech at the May commencement ceremony.
It's the first time that the university has banned the valedictorian from speaking.
University Provost Andrew Guzman said, quote, while this is disappointing, tradition must give way to safety, he wrote in a statement.
This decision is not only necessary to maintain the safety of our campus and students, but it is consistent with the fundamental legal obligation, including the expectations of federal regulators, that universities act to protect students and keep our campus community safe.
It applies the same values and criteria that we have used in the past to guide our actions.
In no way does it diminish the remarkable academic achievements of any student considered or selected to be valedictorian.
To be clear, and this is again I'm reading from a statement from the provost, To be clear, this decision has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
There is no free speech entitlement to speak at a commencement.
The issue here is how to best maintain campus security and safety, period.
I gotta admit, James, I have mixed emotions about this decision from USC because, and I'm gonna read from a tweet, Mary Catherine Hamm, Who's a conservative contributor.
She's been on CNN, MSNBC. She's actually from Georgia, went to the University of Georgia, but very smart, very conservative.
She tweeted yesterday.
She said, quote, she's earned the slot.
Let her give her speech, even if it's dumb and terrible.
It's not a safety issue for her to give it.
I have to agree with that.
Presumably, it'd be a reflection of the quality of her USC education.
Universities are so bad at so many things.
I think I agree with Mary Katherine Ham.
I'm not so sure that if you're valedictorian, you've earned the right to speak.
If you want to get up there and make an ass of yourself and embarrass yourself, do it.
But the pro-Palestinian mob now has four weeks to prepare for the USC commencement ceremony.
James, what are your thoughts?
Well, yeah, that's another one they...
They said, you're saying, I'm not going to let you make the speech, but if you made it very clear that she's not going to make the speech, or they're not going to, I don't know if it's boy or girl, they're not going to make the speech, and all you did is, you just said, now there are four weeks to prepare.
This is what you've allowed right now.
You've allowed a couple of things.
Instead of one possible protest, so let's say she clearly handed in her speech.
Somebody at USC read it and went, uh-oh.
This might cause a problem, right?
Instead of allowing it to Happened naturally, right?
She goes up there, they go up there, they give their speech, and they say, you know, I'm pro-Palestine, Bob.
Let's say whatever they say, right?
Now there's just a bunch of people who are pissed in the audience.
That's probably what's going to happen.
Now you're allowing pro-Palestinian protesters and pro-Israel protesters to attack one event.
That's what you just said.
That's what you just did out loud.
You said that out loud and you told them, hey, Israel protesters, go get your stuff ready.
Palestinian protesters, go get your stuff ready.
Show up to this event and make it more of a scene than it could ever be at USC, one of the biggest schools in California and the country.
Yeah, completely.
That's all they did.
I'm curious to see where this goes.
They just made the announcement early this week, and so I wouldn't be surprised, James, if they retract and have to give her, because I've got to say, I've been to a lot of commencement ceremonies in my lifetime, both in high school and in college.
And I did get every one of those commencement ceremonies.
The valedictorian had an opportunity to address his or her classmates.
So I just, I chuckle.
I shouldn't, but I do because it, again, this whole show is kind of underscored this show.
Not the whole podcast, but the show on the podcast has highlighted the problems that the left has with the situation in Israel.
Can I ask you a question, Chip?
Because I genuinely don't understand this.
I'm just curious.
Maybe it's because I'm super naive, but this has been an Israel-Palestine issue, the Gaza Strip.
It's been that way for God knows how long, but also since October, since that attack happened.
Yep.
Why is Iran involved?
Where did this come about?
Well, Iran had an attack on one of their consular facilities.
Is that the one where there was an American there?
No, they had an attack on their consular facilities that they blamed Israel for.
Now, Israel didn't take credit in just denying that they were responsible for that attack.
But, I mean, look, Iran has never been close to Israel.
Sure.
This whole situation in Israel is kind of highlighted where they sit geographically with a bunch of Arab countries around them.
But yes, the impetus that Iran used for justification basis for the attack was the attack on their consular.
Okay, got it.
All right.
I was just curious because this felt very random to me, but I don't pay attention.
To be honest, I try to avoid watching most news because it's depressing.
But yeah, I was just curious because it just seemed like it was very much like, yeah, there's an attack coming.
And you're like, well, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess if you guys already know.
I mean, they didn't really announce their attack, but everybody knew it was coming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Immediately.
They were like, yeah, there's one coming.
Everyone's like, what do you mean?
They're like, don't worry about it.
And luckily they handled it, you know.
That's pretty swiftly, but...
Indeed, it was a little bit different.
All right, well, we're going to kind of pivot off of the Israel-Palestinian conflict, and we're going to close up just kind of coming back, James, talking about an issue that you and I talked about a week ago, and that is the situation in the U.S. House of Representatives.
And I'm going to kind of put this topic under the category of three strikes and you're out.
And I say that because all it takes right now with the numbers in the U.S. House of Representatives to to to vacate the speakers, assuming that the Democrats don't help.
And we'll talk about that a little bit is three Republicans.
And, you know, last week we talked about Marjorie Taylor Greene being a Republican who was very vocal and had filed a motion to vacate the chair.
And now, as of yesterday, Thomas Massey from Kentucky...
Has joined the chorus.
And Massey said this yesterday.
Massey said, he told CNN yesterday, I've asked him, meaning Speaker Johnson, to resign.
He said he would not.
And then I said, well, you're the one who's going to put us into this.
Because the motion is going to get called up, okay?
Does anybody doubt that?
The motion's gonna get called up.
And then he's gonna lose more votes than Kevin McCarthy.
And I've told him this in private like weeks ago.
And I remember Kevin McCarthy lost eight votes.
And all of this conflict It's going to be interesting to see what happens because both of those,
The Israel package will pass because there's certainly members of both parties who want to support Israel.
There's members of both parties that don't, but it's a smaller number.
Ukraine's going to be a little bit closer vote, but you're going to have just about all Democrats and I think probably 60 percent of Republicans.
It'll pass overwhelmingly.
But what did we talk about a week ago, James, that Marjorie Taylor Greene said this is all about math?
And she's right.
It is about math, but what we don't know is that if Johnson does allow a standalone vote, it looks like he will.
And I am curious to get Doug's thoughts on this on Friday when he's able to join us again for Friday Funday, because the vote's either going to happen tomorrow or it's going to happen on Friday, and it might be happening around the same time that we're recording the show.
And so if that happens, I have no doubt that That the vote on Ukraine aid will trigger a vote to vacate the chair.
But what might make this vote different than the prior votes is that You might see some Democrats come to Johnson's aid because they just don't want to see the chaos and they believe calling for aid to Ukraine was the right thing to do.
A week after we had this conversation, we now have two members and all we need is three.
James, give us your thoughts.
It was Sunday when he went on Fox, right?
Mike Johnson, that's when he said, we've been trying for, essentially since he got in, to pass a package that would support Israel and it was blocked multiple times or whatever the case is.
And now that he's got an actual opportunity to do it, and obviously the right has no problem passing a bill for Israel, The Ukraine one is the one that obviously, like you said, is going to kind of piss people off, considering how much money I think we've already given.
I don't even know how that works at this point.
I don't know how you just keep handing money over that doesn't exist.
But anyway, so you said that the Israel bill won't do anything, but the Ukraine bill will trigger, essentially, them being like, all right, buddy, you're out.
That's right.
If they vote him out, right?
If they vote him out, How long was it before?
How long were we without a rep last time?
Without the speaker last time?
Like almost two, three months?
Am I getting that wrong?
Yeah, a little less, but it's chaos.
I mean, who do you put in?
I mean, first of all, I'm not just going to be the one to say this, but there's no world where it can be MTG, right?
No, no, there's not.
Let's just make it super clear that can't happen.
And ultimately, that's why, look, Eli Crane, who is a freshman member from Arizona, you know, who did not vote for Kevin McCarthy in January when he got sworn in on the first 13 ballots.
And he was one of the eight that, you know, that voted to remove Kevin McCarthy.
I mean, Eli Crane, very conservative.
No one's ever accused him not being.
I mean, he even said yesterday, you know, while he doesn't support a standalone bill for Ukraine and while he would vote against it, he's not certain that it rises to the level of removing the speaker.
And so, you know, it's all going to hinge on the Eli Cranes of the caucus that are left.
You've got Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey.
You know what doesn't make sense?
I really don't know the answer to this because I haven't really paid attention to the speaker position until recently because it's obviously been a topic of conversation.
How often is it that People want to remove the speaker because of decisions that he has to make that basically are collective decisions.
I don't want to come off like a...
Like, I don't know what I'm talking about.
When you go back in history, it's never happened.
It doesn't happen, right?
Okay, that's really my question.
Because, like, Evan McCarthy, I know people wanted him out for a while.
It was pretty clear people didn't like him.
They didn't think he was making conservative decisions.
And he was there for how long?
Oh, nine months?
Nine months, right?
And before that, what was the length of the previous speaker?
Oh, my.
Well, you know, I'd have to go back and check, James.
But, yeah, I mean, usually the end of people's speakerships coincide with the beginning of a new Congress.
Right.
And that hasn't happened this Congress.
Right.
And it just feels like...
I feel like, yeah, we want to push people out easily because...
When Mike Johnson was, I don't want to say hired, but hired, when he was put into that position, I didn't hear one person say this might...
You said it might be a rough go.
Yeah.
Because you knew what was coming up.
But no one was like, this guy's going to be a terrible conservative.
And that's what it seems like you're attacking him for.
Well, and remember, one of the things that Kevin had going against him is that it was personal with some of the members with Kevin.
For sure.
Absolutely.
They just said, it's not personal.
I mean, everybody gets along with Mike Johnson.
He's one of the nicest guys in the whole body, in either party.
And so, you know...
That's why I'm like, that's the only confusion I have.
I'm not saying that what...
I know the spending bill was like the...
Yeah.
I get that.
I understand that, but...
Was it unavoidable?
I guess would be my question.
Would anyone else in his position have been able to be like, no, we have to go through every bit of this bill.
There's no way I can pass this.
But it's not up to him only.
It's not.
And that's what I don't understand.
I'm not defending him.
I could care less who's in there personally.
I don't know anybody.
I don't know their policies.
I don't care.
Yeah, and Mike Johnson said, I mean, as soon as Manu Raju got the quote from CNN, was able to obtain the quote from Thomas Massey and was able to immediately go to Speaker Johnson and get his thoughts on what his colleague Thomas Massey had said.
And Mike Johnson said, quote, I'm not resigning.
And it is, in my view, an absurd notion that someone would bring a vacate motion when we are simply trying to do our jobs.
Is he wrong?
I don't know, but is he wrong?
He's not, but there's a former member of Congress in Bakersfield, California, that is probably having a chuckle, a glass of wine, and a cigar listening to the current speaker give that statement.
They're like, yeah, go ahead.
Enjoy it, bud.
You want it?
It's yours now.
That's Kevin McCarthy.
James, our time has flown by.
We've covered a lot today.
I'll give you the last word before we sign off on Wednesday, April 17th.
And then we will have Doug and the whole gang back with us in two days for Friday's Finest.
But James, I'll give you the last word.
Stop blocking roads.
We've got to get to work.
Amen, man.
Amen.
Amen.
And if you do block roads, we need to have local leaders and law enforcement with the courage to put some teeth to some of these consequences for some of these protesters and give them at least the threat of serious criminal justice.
I'm Chip Blake, guest hosting.
Thanks for Doug for allowing me the opportunity to guest host.
As I said, James and Doug and I will be back on Friday for Friday's Finest.