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Sept. 12, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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It’s not Age, it’s incompetence!
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In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Doug Collins Podcast.
Glad to have you with us today.
In just a few minutes, I'm going to go over some things that have been on my mind, some new stuff, some things that I've heard mentioned when I've been out speaking and doing some arrangements.
By the way, if you're going to be in North Carolina on the 23rd of this month, Faith and Freedom, Is doing one of their big meetings up there Friday night, Saturday night outside of Charlotte.
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They're finalizing the time.
It'll probably be the Saturday morning or Friday evening.
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But if you're in the area, I'd love to have you come out and be a part of this.
Got a lot of great speakers.
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It's going to be a good time.
So I want to encourage you to come out and be a part of that as we go.
But a lot of things that are going on.
I just want to make some comments on today.
And I think we go through this a lot.
And after the break, I'm going to pick up on some of these issues of the round of elections, especially Biden, Fauci, budget, the impeachment, all these things that are going on here in the month of September.
But just wanted to lay it out for you.
Start the week off in a way that gives you some information that maybe we can start maybe turning this narrative.
And I think that's one of the things that I want to try and do here as we move forward.
All right, right after the break, we'll be back, and let's get into some thoughts.
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Alright, you know, I'm hearing this more and more, and it's interesting to me that it used to be when the Democrats and Republican candidates would get together, they would form their messaging strategy, and they would decide, you know, sort of where they wanted to take their message, you know, like, this is going to be an economic message, this is a national security message, this is a law and order message, you know, whatever it might be, economic trade, you know, it doesn't matter.
And that the press would then report What was coming out of the camps, whether it be Democrat or Republican or whatever, they would tend to report it.
Now, look, I've never been one to always say that the press was ever conservative or the press was ever more socially, especially liberal.
But at least there was a time when all you had was 30-minute newscast in the evenings and then maybe the original versions of what became the 24-hour news cycle that there was at least some momentary objectivity in some of the reporting.
What we're seeing now, though, is something that I've told you here on this podcast many times.
This is something you just got to get used to, especially if you're a Republican or conservative, is that the media is not going to message for you.
If anything, they will message for the Democrats.
I've seen an acceleration in this.
I think a lot of people have over the last few years.
And look, if you think this is not true, find you a TV that can do the four screens or has the four screens.
If you have YouTube TV, this is something that, by the way, YouTube TV is not a sponsor of the Doug Collins Cup Podcast, but if they would like to be, please let me know.
I'd love to support them because I have started YouTube TV and they have the ability to do four screens.
For news or for sports.
And it was really neat.
So the other day, the last week, I've been into this.
And I watched four newscasts.
It had Fox.
It had CNN. It had MSNBC. It had BBC. What was amazing is how many times...
Two of the...
CNN and MSNBC were running the same thing.
Fox was running something entirely different.
It really became prevalent last week during a hearing in Atlanta on the timing of the trial for Sidney Powell and Mr. Chesborough down here in the counts that they're trying to be separated out from the other 19 in this case.
MSNBC was running it non-stop.
CNN, basically non-stop.
Fox wasn't covering it.
Okay, I'm just being honest here.
They just wasn't covering it.
And I've turned around a couple times.
I've yet to hear it actually even reported.
I'm saying I don't watch news all the time anyway, but I didn't see it reported on Fox.
Now, in the morning, it was a little bit different.
Fox and CNN were reporting the fact that the North Korean dictator was going to Putin to sell arms to China finally did seem to get involved in that and say, no, that's not going to happen.
But Fox and CNN were reporting this North Korea issue and MSNBC was spent all morning on Morning Joe and others reporting poll results and how can Donald Trump be winning the primary?
And can he win the general?
I say all that to simply say, if you have to have your head in a bucket full of water and rice to not see that there is definite variations of what the news is reporting today and what they're picking out as their lead stories.
Where it becomes more concerning, though, to me, is not, okay, one is going to pick foreign policy over a domestic, you know, presidential campaign.
Is the race in the Republican primary a valid news point?
Yes, it sure is.
I mean, MSNBC can point to the fact that, you know, we're looking for president, this is where it's at, and if you listen to it, it's all revolving around the indictments, and how can Trump still be doing this, and should he be able to run it all, and again, over and over and over again.
Is the trial worth covering in Georgia?
Yes.
I mean, you would have to say it would be from a news perspective.
So it was really interesting to me that Fox didn't even do a news break or say, hey, look, this is happening in Georgia.
We're keeping up with you.
We'll let you know what happens.
But again, didn't seem to do that.
And then I started watching this conversation surrounding Joe Biden's numbers.
And so I got interested to see what the more favorable news sources, such as MSNBC or CNN and others, were saying about Joe Biden and the lack of Yeast, I guess you would say, in his numbers.
That's the best way I know how to put this.
In other words, they're not rising.
The main point that you hear from Joe Biden in the last little bit is the Bidenomics, which is not working.
Plain and simple, it just ain't working.
Not in the way that they want it to.
If you're wanting bigger government, more government control, you got your plan.
But if you want inflation coming down, if you want prices to get better, if you want energy prices to come down, this ain't your plan.
Okay?
So, I was looking at it, and then they kept coming back to this one issue.
And the left is now, without prompting from the White House, because if the White House has asked about Joe Biden's age, they dismiss it.
That he's a hard worker, he works mornings around us, and just on and on.
Well, I mean, obviously, visual evidence to the contrary.
He has trouble walking across the lawn.
He has trouble walking stairs.
He forgets where he's at.
He walks off early.
He gets turned around on stage about where to go and where not to go.
In fact, there's some of the funniest memes on the internet right now about a guy who's in Joe's ear, supposedly, with the earpiece.
And again, it's a made-up video, but directing Joe and what to do, the president and what to do, and how he tends to mess it up.
So, to the contrary, people are seeing a president who is not engaging intellectually or physically like they would expect someone to be who's president of the United States, no matter what their age is.
So I thought, well, maybe they're going to discuss this in the age factor that maybe Joe Biden is getting to the point where he's not able to function as highly as he needs to to be president of the United States, and maybe the Democrats are discussing this.
What was amazing to me, though, was they kept coming back to age, and they said they blamed all the economic bad numbers, which, by the way, was like a 40-point gap.
I think it was like something in 40-plus points in which people said the economy was going in the wrong direction.
Okay, and then you have administration officials, well, they don't understand everything that Cedric Richmond, who's a good friend of mine, I consider a friend, who's the co-chair of Biden's campaign, said, well, they haven't understood all the good that Joe Biden's done.
Well, that's all they've talked about for a year and a half now, and it's not moving the numbers.
So they moved to the age being the hindrance to Joe Biden's less than stellar poll numbers.
And they blame age.
And they blame it only on age.
I'm going to take a different fact.
I think it's not age that people are frustrated with, because also some of the same polls in which Donald Trump is very close in age, they're not very far off from each other, is not seen as an age problem.
Now, they may not like Donald Trump.
They may hate his policies.
They may hate him.
They may not like anything else.
But they're not saying that he's not capable of...
that age is stopping him, maybe is the better way to put it.
They've not thought he was a good president or not thought he was a good person since the day he came down the elevator escalator in New York saying he's gonna run for Republican for president.
It'd been interesting to me of what all these liberals would have done if he had came down as a Democrat to run for president because all of them loved him up until that point.
So, you know, again, Once he became, you know, he came in their eyes the enemy as a conservative, they began to lay out the plan that we're not going to ever let him have a moment's rest.
But back to this Biden age issue.
I think it's not age that it's a problem.
I think it's incompetence.
I think people look at Joe Biden right now, and what they see is a staff that is covering for him.
They see people not being honest around him.
And I think it really doesn't help him, frankly, the age issue.
When you look at Dianne Feinstein, you look at John Fetterman, you look at even Mitch McConnell and the issues that McConnell's had with these health issues or age issues going forward.
Fetterman's not an age issue.
Fetterman is a health issue, and that's a totally different thing in many ways.
But it all highlights the Inability at times to communicate, inability at times to do the job.
But for Joe Biden's problem, he's president of the United States.
And I think to me, if you look at this, and for folks, if you have Democrat friends who say, well, the only reason people don't like Joe Biden is because he's old, I think it's wrong.
I think if you dig down deeper, it's the incompetency factor.
It's the fact that gas prices are $1.50 to $2 more than they were the day he was sworn in.
And look, you can try and blame the Russian invasion of Ukraine on that, and that would be to a small extent true.
But we wasn't getting a lot of that anyway.
It was affecting the oil prices worldwide.
But it was also affecting that Joe Biden unilaterally basically surrendered to OPEC and other nations when they said, we're going to quit basically drilling for oil in the United States.
We're going to basically handicap our own industry here of energy independence in the United States by not moving forward with things that we could do here.
So you put Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, the other OPEC nations in control of the gas prices, of the oil prices, which drove up prices here in the United States, which has contributed to why people feel it every day in their checkbook.
No matter if incomes were going up, their prices are going up as well, from the price of milk and eggs and everything else.
A lot of this goes back to the reflection of transportation costs, which in turn reflects energy costs.
So, again, I think, let's just talk about the incompetency factor here.
So, number one incompetency factor, the first thing you do is you get into office and you kill our domestic energy independence.
The next thing is, is immigration.
No one, no one, not even Democrats.
Are willing to defend, for the most part, in a rational voice, what's going on at our border, where it is.
Now, they're pouring through through legal ports of entry because Mayorkas is bending the law.
In fact, I don't think he's bending the law.
He's breaking the law, it appears, in letting known pathways into this country, which are not legal pathways or parole as they're sending them through, just to get them off of the borders.
And people are seeing it coming to their communities and everywhere else.
I mean, we've talked about this before.
Even briefly, I mentioned it last week.
Eric Adams is now saying that illegal immigration will be the downfall of New York City.
This is a sanctuary city.
I mean, how do you actually reconcile that one?
You know, you have a sanctuary city in which you're now saying, we got too many immigrants, you can't come here, it's killing our city.
And nobody's calling him xenophobic.
Nobody's calling him, you know, a hatred or a...
Any other word that you want to describe, racist or whatever, in this.
But, you know, it's when it's, you know, not in my backyard syndrome is really prevalent among a lot of liberals.
You know, don't, oh yeah, well let them in and treat them well, but send them somewhere other than my hometown, Hamptons.
We'll remember those wonderful videos where you're patting them on the back as they're getting on the bus.
You know, give me a freaking break.
So immigration, I mean, look, it's incompetence.
Close the border.
Don't let people in who not.
And again, I'll say this until I'm blue in the face.
You've had Tom Holman on this podcast.
You've had others on this podcast saying, of the ones who are there, well, they're just poor asylum seekers.
They're just coming from places that they're under persecution.
Look, asylum means that the government is out to get you.
Asylum doesn't mean your country is poverty stricken and gang ridden because your government won't control the gangs.
If that be true, then Chicago has an issue.
Los Angeles has an issue.
Philadelphia has an issue.
New York has an issue.
Their issue of actually patrolling and actually putting bad guys away.
So, asylum seekers here, after they actually attend to a judge, over 95, as high as 96% or more, actually are denied asylum in the United States.
So in other words, for every 10 people that you let in on an asylum claim, 9 or more of them are not here actually under the law, under asylum.
Why are we doing this?
Because we have an agenda to bring them in, because we know that once they get here, it's very, very, very hard to get them out, especially if they're younger, especially if they have kids while they're here.
Guess what?
The kids are now American citizens, and they're staying.
So at a certain point in time, it's not just incompetence, it's also a set plan to bring people in, knowing there's no plan to get rid of them or send them back to where they belong because they're not here under a legal assumption.
And it just tells the rest of the world, quit going through the legal means, just come to the United States any way you can, get here, and for the most part, you're going to be allowed to stay.
It is amazing, though, that the ones that are trying to do it right are the ones that harass the most.
And again, it's just frustrating.
So it's incompetence, not age.
It's incompetence.
Number two is Afghanistan.
We're at the two-year anniversary of losing 13 in Afghanistan, in which we gave up our largest base.
We piled ourselves into an urban area, in an urban airport, misjudged all the signs, or just intentionally misread all the signs of the Taliban coming forth and taking over, leaving equipment, not destroying the equipment.
Afghan army just leaving it.
In which now is even Pakistan's defense folks have said, look, the Taliban is using the equipment and are equipped with stuff that they didn't even have, you know, Frank, and I'll say this, you know, 25 years ago when they were really taking root in Afghanistan in the late 1990s into the early 2000s when we got, as you well know, 9-11.
So this should be a concern to everybody.
That's incompetence.
That's not age.
COVID. I mean, this whole lockdown situation, the whole money spending, the whole thing, it's just, again, you had a president come in and said, oh, we're going to get rid of it, but yet everywhere around every corner, now you're hearing about more mask mandates and more others.
Even the president himself seems like he doesn't want to do that.
Even last week, when Jill Biden, his wife, got COVID, he was going around, you know, oh, I got to wear a mask.
Well, I'm not going to wear a mask.
They're not going to wear a mask, and I'm tested positive.
I mean, look, This is just an incompetence issue.
So folks, the reason I tell you all this, and I give you all these examples, is so I don't want you out there buying the narrative that Joe Biden's only behind in the polls because of age.
It's not age, it's incompetence.
It's the way he's handling the job.
So conservatives, if you're out debating with liberals and they say, well, Joe Biden's numbers will come back up, this is just an age thing, you know, people are just worried about it, but he'll be fine.
No, start pointing out the truth.
Afghanistan, immigration, COVID. The things that are going on in the incompetence factor is something that we need to actually emphasize here.
So no matter who the Republican nominee ends up being, the race will be about conservative ideas versus incompetency.
Conservative ideas that move the economy forward versus incompetency.
Conservative ideas that move foreign policy forward and makes us stronger around the world instead of incompetency.
That should be the narrative, not simply that Joe Biden is old.
Joe Biden is old, but he's been old for a little while, and it's incompetency that is carrying this out, not his age.
Speaking of Fauci, switching gears here for just a moment, Fauci should actually, I hope he wears flip-flops every day because he has flip-flopped more than John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election.
And especially in this area of mask.
Now, it has become, I am a, and before any of you out there say Doug's a science, I am for science.
But here's the basis of science.
Science is taking a supposition, a hypothesis, questioning it, testing it, and then coming up with a conclusion.
It's not coming to a conclusion and then going back and trying to make your narrative fit, which is what the left has tried to do now for three years in this regard to COVID. Remember, first off, well, we had to have ventilators.
Well, we found out ventilators were actually not just helping, they were hurting people.
They were actually killing people.
Then we changed gears.
Then we said, well, you've got to have the mask.
Then you had the vaccines.
And now we're finding out from the sources that Pfizer, Moderna, and others, there's early testing from their own testing.
This is not things that anybody is making up.
Their own testing showed a great deal of issues, especially among young people, and heart conditions around the vaccine.
It's just a fact, okay?
Now you can say, well, those were in marginal range, they didn't affect, but I think you're seeing what is happening in a different light.
People are now questioning, you know, is this something that should have been looked at further?
Number two, Fauci said, mask, everybody wear a mask, everybody wear a mask, mask mandate on the planes, mask mandate on trains, mask mandate everywhere.
And now, just confronted in the last week with the fact of multiple studies that show that the masks do nothing in affecting the COVID-19 virus or its variants.
Fauci said, well, we still need to wear masks.
There are other studies.
Well, the main studies coming out over and over and over again are saying, look, go back to the old treatment that your mom and others used to give.
If you're not feeling well, stay away from people.
That's just normal.
If you're coughing, cover your mouth.
But the idea that you can wear a mask is now not the situation of actually helping.
In fact, studies have now shown that actually wearing the mask can actually cause you to have Breathing difficulties and other things that are just not planned for.
I mean, masks were designed for not this type of purpose.
If you want to call out all the COVID-19 virus, you've got to go through almost a ventilator system with very detailed filters and all to do this.
And you're not going to afford it and you're not going to be able to wear it.
But Fauci continuing this nonsense that masks will be the savior of everything, and in vaccines.
Oh, remember early on, the vaccine.
If you get the vaccine, you can't get the virus.
Well, bullcrap.
Jill Biden has been vaccined and boosted more times than probably anybody else in the country, and she just got COVID again.
So don't hand me this.
Okay, this is, I mean, the Fauci, I'm so tired of Fauci.
Why they keep having him on the news, why they keep having him on anywhere is just beyond my understanding.
But he's still there.
Last thing before we get really started into September, this week the House returns to Washington to begin work on what the plan will be to pass some sort of a spending bill by the end of the month.
Set the stage for you.
In May, they passed a debt ceiling bill which said that we're gonna get all 12 done before January 1st, or we'll take a 1% across the board cut.
I think I've explained a lot on this podcast why that's a very dumb idea to do 1% cut.
I mean, there are certain things that need 10% cut, and then there's certain things that need probably a little bit of money added to them.
You don't just take 1% cut and cut everything.
That's just the dumbest way to do budgeting, okay?
I'm sorry.
And I know that there are many senators and many representatives who come in and say, let's just cut 2% off the top of the budget.
Okay, well, you really want to cut 2% off of programs for fire suppression, or you want to cut 2% off the budget for your military, which is right now struggling with military recruitment like none other at this point.
Or would it be better to go, say, take the whole 10% out of an education department, or take 15% out of an education department in the bureaucracy and clean out the cubicles in D.C.? You know, there's a lot of ways to do this.
Just having this simple, oh, we got a simple solution.
No, that's not a simple solution anymore.
You're $33 in debt.
Simple is out the door.
So, you know, we've got this coming up, but the debt ceiling bill is supposed to put it in perspective where they'll pass the bills and they will do so, and this was the given, they'll do it at 2023 levels, which is the current fiscal year budget.
Many people in the House, after that vote was taken, decided that that was too high and that they were going to come in lower.
And Speaker McCarthy decided, okay, fine.
We don't have to go to the max.
We can go to a lower number than the one agreed upon, except for one small problem there.
The Senate didn't agree to that.
And the Senate is part of this.
And the President didn't agree to this.
So now you're setting yourself up to higher numbers.
Now the question is, will the Senate and the House then negotiate in whatever number that the Senate's using, which was the number off the debt ceiling bill, and the number the House is using, let's just say one was 75 and one was 25, do they come together into 50?
And so that the Conservatives in the House can say, well, we cut it another $25, and the House and the Senate can say, well, we raised it $25, or we got it numbered.
If that's what the plan is, fine, but they're throwing everything else into this as well, from impeachment issues to fiscal issues to other things.
It's going to make a really, I think, bumpy road.
And for those in the military and others, the CR is the worst way to do business.
It does not allow for long-term planning.
It does not allow for issues that especially organizations like the military need.
Now, can the military probably find ways to save money and put money into other areas it needs to?
Yes.
Okay, I'll admit that.
But you've got to have a starting point for this.
And then you got the, on top of this, you got disaster relief and you got Ukraine aid, which is causing a lot of difficulty among many, not only in the country, but in the House representatives as well.
Senate is pretty much lockstep that they want to give Ukraine whatever they want to give them.
And the president is in that same mode.
House is different.
And I think that's going to become one of your big sticking points here as you go forward.
So as you see a lot of this, you know, Understand clearly that the budget process is broken, that it is not an easy fix, and just that you get one or two things.
Again, be very careful of those who want things that are not budgetary related in this.
And I'm saying that not because they're not valid issues.
But is that what you want to stake a budget negotiations on, issues that are not set?
And some of these are policy issues, and they're going to be policy issues in the budget from abortion to everything else.
This is what Tommy Tuberville, the senator from Alabama, is dealing with, and he's held up all the general promotions because of the policy in the military right now of paying for and allowing time off to go get an abortion.
I don't think they should be doing that to start with.
I don't think it is legal.
It definitely is not within the spirit of the law of the Hyde Amendment.
So I don't get it.
But this is where we're at right now and going forward.
So how does this play out?
Then you got McConnell who's had his own health issues.
You've got McCarthy who's having to deal with those who may want to try and take him out as far as, you know, vacate the chair motions.
People actually said this, that all they need are the few votes to do that.
Technically they would.
That is if all Republicans voted to remove McCarthy.
I'm not sure all Democrats would vote to remove McCarthy.
And I think, I don't know if they would actually have support from the leadership to do that.
Because look, Democrats don't like this any more than Republicans do.
The Democratic leadership don't like the fact that they can, in fact, they took away the motion to vacate the chair when they were in control for four years because they didn't want to deal with it from the floor.
And I think this is going to become an issue.
I mean, look, would it be in McCarthy's best interest for this to happen?
No.
Because the minute it happened, he would lose basically most of his credibility, and then he would have to make the decision to resign on his own, which I don't think will happen right now.
I just don't.
But they've got a long fall ahead of them.
They've still got this CR, which is the only aspect that's being talked about right now, and that is kicking the cam down the road to, say, November, December, and then trying to come up with something before January 1 where you don't get a 1% cut across the board.
I'll probably have more to say about this as it unfolds this month, but just watch the narrative being spoken.
And if you have a representative, I want you to think, and this is both the Democrat and Republicans, Just think, are they saying this for my edification, for a Twitter following, a YouTube following, or are they saying it in something that can actually get done?
And I think that's the key that has to be actually looked at here.
Is this something that can actually be done?
And look, I may agree that I think the Department of Justice has run them up, but do I think that you're going to get a bill through our spending package that actually cuts money out of the Department of Justice from, say, Jack Smith or anyone else?
No, I don't think you are, because they're just not the setup to do that.
You have too many Republicans, and all the Democrats are not going to let that happen.
So let's go back to saying how much can we get off of this budget negotiation to get it off of the 23 levels, maybe down closer to the 22 levels, and then we move forward into the next year's budgeting cycle and start the budgeting cycle well before August.
I tried that while I was there.
Nobody wanted to seem to think that was a good idea.
But remember, folks, if you don't think this is a problem, they could not get the ag bill out of the House floor in July.
The agricultural bill, the house appropriations agricultural bill, had to be pulled because they could not get the votes.
And I've said this over and over again.
I'll say it one more time here.
The bottom line is, in the House, The lack of being able to pass something is a Republican problem.
Period.
End of statement.
Done.
They have the majority.
The Democrats are not required to vote for anything Republicans put up there.
And so if you want something passed, Kevin McCarthy has to have 218, 217, 216, however many the total number of the House is at that point to get the majority.
He's got to put those votes up there himself.
If he goes and gets Democrat help, that's just gravy.
But if he wants to pass something conservative, he's got to have all the Republicans aboard.
Which means...
That the best the Republicans can do is what the best of the majority of the conference will vote for.
And if you have five or six who hold out and say, nope, we're not going to do it, they can't turn around and vote no and hope yes because the Democrats will come in and save them because the Democrats can sit there and say, we're not going to do this.
So this is what makes this difficult.
If you're out there buying the pablum of, you know, well, Democrats don't want to do this.
No, it's a Republican issue.
The Republicans got to need to get in a room and figure out a bill that they can all vote on.
At least 218 of them can.
Then three or four of them can vote no.
But that's the problem that you're experiencing this month.
And look, nobody wants to talk to you about this.
I mean, I know there's a lot of conservative talk show out there that say, hey, go to the mat on this, go to the mat.
And I'm not saying you don't go to the mat.
But the question is, what can you get a pin on the mat with?
I don't want to just simply go to the mat.
I want to get a win when I'm down there.
And we've got to figure out what a win is.
That starts you off this week on the Doug Collins Podcast.
Go out and have a great one.
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