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You want to listen to a podcast?
By who?
Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
How is it?
The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
I could not believe my ears.
In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Hey everybody, it's Doug Collins.
Welcome back to the Doug Collins Podcast.
Wow, what a week.
We got a lot to talk about.
I mean, from mug shots to Twitter, your returns to football back.
Yes, it is Friday before week zero.
College football is back!
We're excited about that.
A lot of other little things to talk about today.
Wanting to catch you up here on Friday's Finest.
In just a second, on the other side of the break, James and I will catch you all up.
Glad you're here.
Let's get started.
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All right, folks, we're here.
Friday's finest, James, our Texan by way of New Jersey, is in the house.
What's up, James?
Nothing much.
How was your...
I guess it's been a week since we really talked.
Yeah, it's been a week.
I've been traveling.
I've been in one place.
The United States Air Force serves to put you in and puts you at one place for now.
I haven't been flying the world, but good.
It's been hotter than blue blazes here in Georgia.
We've taken over some of Texas, I think.
And today, the Friday, for those of you getting this podcast on Friday, in Georgia, we're just...
I mean, we're taking on what Texas said.
We're at 108, 109...
You know, heat indexes, and, you know, it's just hot.
Yeah, we've been...
It's been hell here, but it's just been hell for, like, two months, so no one's really paying attention.
Maybe even three months at this point.
But, yeah, it's been weird, because I, like, I've never missed home so much in New Jersey.
Everyone's texting me that it's 70 degrees, and I'm like, you know what?
I don't need this negativity in my life.
You know, let me...
Let me live.
Just leave me alone and let me roast out here like a vegetable.
I mean, that's the most amazing part of that whole comment right there, James.
I actually came out with the fact that you're missing New Jersey.
For some of us who have traveled the lovely Garden State before.
You've never been to my part of town.
You don't know.
Well, your man Chris...
But your man Chris Christie's doing it all.
I've never...
You know what's kind of fascinating is he was hated in New Jersey already because he tried to shut down a bridge, which is like the equivalent of...
I mean, that's...
That is like murder.
That is the equivalent to murder in New Jersey is shutting down a bridge to Atlantic City.
But...
He just, he's truly the worst and he's always been the worst.
And I remember, I don't know if you, are you aware of Mike and the Mad Dog?
Is that the radio host or whatever?
Yeah, they were like the very, they weren't the very first, but they were the original like very popular sports radio show in America.
Doesn't he do still like Sirius XM or whatever?
Yeah, Mad Dog is getting paid.
Let's put it that way.
Yeah, he's got his own station.
But anyway, the point is they have a station called, it's 1019 in New York and New Jersey, and it's one of the most popular stations ever.
And Chris Christie tried to go on there to do sports talk.
And I don't know what he thought was going to happen.
I don't know if he thought people were going to call up and be nice to him, but he was wrong.
The people of New York and New Jersey basically called him up and eviscerated him for like three straight days.
There was a debate where they were going to put him on, and I was like, what are you thinking?
They hate you here.
Nobody likes you here.
They've taken pictures of you sitting on the beach like a slug.
Why do you think they're going to be nice to you here?
I was always fascinated with his position in New Jersey.
At first, I was like, oh, okay, he's kind of a good guy, and then he just threw it all away.
Yeah, then it was all, throwing it all away.
I might have to play that.
Yeah, we get that kind of stuff.
So let's do it from the fun perspective of life.
Because we always do a lot of the political.
We've had some great shows here in the last little bit.
I'm talking about some things out.
But as we come together, we look for the alternate side of that.
And I thought...
You know, the debate itself was pretty much useless, except you put everybody on the stage and everybody got to talk about them for less than 24 hours, because Donald Trump decided to have a counter-interview, if you would, on Tucker Carlson, in which received over 50, 60 million views.
I know they're saying 130, but they're saying something about that's not right.
But anyway, I think it's probably much more.
It doesn't matter.
The difference between 60 and 100 is still, yeah.
Yeah, 12 million views.
Now, let's put this in perspective, folks.
And again, if you hate Donald Trump, like Donald Trump, whatever, I don't care.
He's a master at getting his message out.
So even if, and if you go back and if you look at the analytics for that video that was put out, I am wondering, you know, let's just say that most people watch the, I think it was an hour, they watched it, say, for 15 minutes.
Okay, let's just say that 10 million people or 15 million people watched it for more than 15 minutes.
Then he got more eyeballs than all nine of the, or eight, or how many was it, the debate the other night, of them combined.
Because they all got less than 12 to 13 minutes of talk in a two-hour debate, and he was the only one speaking.
Yeah.
I mean, it's pretty brilliant.
The gravitation of...
Again, this is not whether you like him or not.
The gravitation of Donald Trump is absolutely absurd.
But it's also on the heels of him having to go to, you know, jail.
And we can talk about the mugshots and all that.
You think about...
First of all, I think the debates are just so ugly and pathetic at this point, all of them.
I just don't think they do any good.
I know Vivek got a huge bump or something in that.
Because everyone I know was talking about him.
People, whatever, from Republican to Democrat, everyone was talking about him.
But, yeah, I just don't understand why they thought they can compete with Donald Trump.
You can't compete with him.
You've never been able to compete with him.
No!
He's a ratings hog.
I mean, I don't know if anyone listens to...
If anyone's a big comedy fan, but Shane Gillis is a comedian, and he talked about when Donald Trump showed up to do the...
The debates, which essentially won him the election, I think, in the beginning, right?
Because he had nothing.
And then he showed up and did the debates and was just calling people names and going crazy, and no one knew how to compete with that.
That was an insane...
You know what I'm saying?
No one had ever seen that before.
It is nuts.
Well, and let's just bend this over into Twitter, if you would.
And he returned to Twitter after two and a half years gone.
And when he returned to Twitter last night, this is...
Even Elon Musk had to put this out.
But here's the...
As of...
Friday, and this is afternoon and Friday.
We're taping a little bit later today, but afternoon and Friday.
174 million views.
306,000 retweets.
88,000 quote tweets.
1.3 million likes.
35,000 bookmarks.
Elon Musk even had to tweet approximately 10 million views per hour of this image.
That sounds impossible.
It does.
I mean, it's just like, are you kidding me?
But the reality is, look, Donald Trump is still the most significant media force in this country.
And If you don't like him, you hate him.
If you don't agree with him, you despise him.
If you think that whatever you think is wrong and you're driving around right now, and I'll be polite, but I'll just also say if you're driving around right now by yourself in a car with a mask on, you think he's the Antichrist.
Okay?
The interesting thing about it is he is still the one that is drawn to.
He is still the one that people look to.
And there's a group of people, and I know that this is driving political commentators nuts, but he still holds about 45% of the Republican base in complete control.
They're not going to leave him.
I don't care what they're auditioning for on the debate stage right now because nothing has shown a back down of his support.
And they don't understand it.
And Ann Coulter, who I'm not, I mean, I don't agree with Ann Coulter on things a lot, but she made the point that she said that there's no way Donald Trump can win the general election, but she would appreciate it if the Democrats would quit indicting him.
It seems like a lost cause.
He got a point.
They just keep going.
Again, I was never a big fan of his, but now it just seems like you look stupid if you just keep inditing the same person over and over again for...
Something that doesn't feel like it can be resolved in court, in my opinion.
It doesn't make sense.
No.
Explain to me why, and this is a deal out of Atlanta, and this is just statistics, okay?
Fonnie Willis, you're going to have to make your case.
She's the DA down there.
She's got to make her case, whether it's in state court or federal court, no matter if it gets moved or whatever.
She's still got to make the case to try and tie all these people together and also to get them to flip on some vast conspiracy that she believes took place.
Now, interestingly enough, that's her deal.
She's got to live with that.
Now the prosecution's time and the defense is going to get their time at this.
But the interesting issue, as you keep looking at this, is one, the whole case is based on a belief that they were doing something nefarious, which, again, is very much debatable.
There's some others in that 19 that are in the indictment that may or may not have tied closer to an actual crime, if you would, which, again, I'm hesitant to use that word especially in this.
But I mean, this is what they're looking at.
But I want to take it to a step further.
And I read this statistic recently.
If it's updated, I'll be happy to hear from somebody that's updated it.
But about the Fulton County Jail where Donald Trump was actually booked into yesterday.
It has an overflow of inmates.
It's under federal investigation.
It has numerous civil rights violations.
All aside to the point of this, the statistic was put out of all these folks who are in jail, many of which are violent felons or have heavy drug trafficking, that over 1,200, 1,400, almost 40-something percent, 45 percent, are sitting in that jail unindicted.
Okay, and yet it was saw fit to, this is what we're putting money and time into?
You've got armed robbers.
You've got...
Assault.
You got murder.
You got rape.
You got others in there, drug trafficking.
You got all that.
And they're sitting in there unindicted?
And you had time to indict 19 people on this?
This is where you lose average Americans.
This is where they don't understand anymore.
And after four times of starting with Alvin Bragg in New York City, going to Jack Smith twice, and now in Atlanta, Again, whatever your case is, you prosecutors out there who think you found the solution, then you've got to make your case.
And you may get it through a court, and you may even get a jury to see some of it, but a lot of folks, far brighter than me and others, are showing that these were not hand up under appeal.
But that's not what they seem to want.
They just simply wanted what they got last night.
Did you see the, in looking at the Twitter reaction and everything, did you happen to see the Twitter reaction from the Lincoln Project I mean, you would have thought it was New Year's Eve, Christmas Day, Thanksgiving, Cinco de Mayo, and Fourth of July wrapped up into one.
I mean, they showed, and I don't know if this was an actual, you know, how doctored this photo was, but it was a full bar, like they were watching a ballgame, and all of a sudden they put up the Trump mugshot, and the whole place just, you know, starts jumping them down like they just won a ballgame.
I don't know where they got the video from, and if that's a bunch of people, you were sitting there in a bar, everybody waiting for the Trump mugshot last night, and you went nuts about it, I think I would honestly have a serious reconsideration of my life's goals.
I know obviously everyone was waiting for it.
So far out of all the memes for everything, my favorite one is that Donald Trump is the second person from Home Alone 2 lost in New York to get his mugshot.
That one made me laugh with Macaulay Culkin to his left.
Yeah, that's pretty funny.
Yeah, I mean, I get everyone was waiting for it.
I understand.
I mean, waiting in the bar and then having like a big cheer harafing.
I really don't know this because I am curious, Doug, because you've been in politics for how long now?
Longer than I remember.
Again, this is not whichever way you feel.
Has there ever been someone so hated on the left side that they would do the same thing?
I'm curious.
I know there are people because the way some MAGA people are attacking others is just as disgusting as people on the left doing what they're doing, but...
I am curious if there's ever been a time where someone was so hated that they would cheer for a mugshot just in a bar.
Like you're rooting for your team.
I don't think so.
And I'm going to make a generalization and liberals may get mad at this and that's fine.
They can always listen to the podcast longer and get educated.
But I mean, Republicans and conservatives tend to not indict people for Crimes that, one, they're going to have trouble proving or going after in which they are accused of using the law for political gain.
And I'm not saying they don't.
Now, please, don't hear me wrong.
But, I mean, I'm sitting here thinking, as you were asking that question, I'm going back through this.
Think about, you know, going back to...
The liberal batch of people right now.
Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, you hear people all the time.
Hillary Clinton.
Lock her up.
Okay?
You know, emails.
You know, all this kind of...
No DAs in New York or Atlanta or anywhere else decided they were going to bring charges against Hillary Clinton.
You know, Jamie Raskin, head of the...
Ranking member in the minority staff...
The minority on the House Oversight Committee right now actually went to the floor of the House in 2017, January 2017, and just lambasted the electors from certain states and voted against certifying them.
Okay, take a step further.
There was a group, and we can find this video, and we can place part of it up here on the podcast, and it was called, it was actors and others appealing to people who were electors in 2016 to be faithless electors.
It starts out on the YouTube video that is out there that says, I'm talking to Republican electors now.
You do not have to vote for Hillary Clinton.
You do not have to vote for Hillary Clinton, but you do not have to vote for Donald Trump.
And they were contacting electors about being faithless electors.
Explain to me, and I will sit and listen, James, to how that is supposedly different than some of the things that were discussed You know, in Atlanta, now you may say, well, they were not supposed to be the actual electors.
Okay, if you went on the illegal advice from Hawaii and others who actually held off electors slates while there was a, quote, court challenge, you know, again, there's just so much here that is just screaming.
To the issues of, look at our country.
We're $32 trillion in debt.
We've got a war going on in Europe between Russia and Ukraine.
We've got a president who's turning off domestic oil production again, while gas and diesel prices are skyrocketing.
You've got inflation still well over 3%.
And if you go to items such as food, gas, and electric, it's up 20 to 30%.
Explain to me how this is helping save democracy.
I don't get it.
You know what I was talking to my parents about the other day?
Well, it's funny you just said that.
And this probably will piss some people off because, I guess, in my head, I just think we are always focusing on the wrong stuff.
And you can feel all you want about this, but with the school system and worrying about people being gay or transgender, and that's always a hot button issue.
We're worried about Donald Trump going to jail.
We're never focused on actually important things.
It just feels like we're always dragged into some...
If somebody wants to be gay or transgender, go ahead.
That's their life.
It's theirs.
It's not yours.
If you have to explain something to your children, I'm sorry.
That's part of life.
I don't have to agree with you.
Go do what you want to do, but don't make me have to agree with you.
If you think it's wrong for someone to be gay, and that's your right, and you're upset about it, you don't go running to the schools and yelling at everybody.
To me, you just explain to your kids, like, hey, that's not what we believe.
That's it.
You move on.
You do the same with Donald Trump.
If you don't like him, just move on.
He's not your president right now.
And you throwing him in jail is not going to change that.
I go back to this argument, James.
I think you've heard me make this argument before.
I always go back to this point of, you know, they say, well, was the election stolen?
Look, it doesn't matter what I think, you know, in a sense.
Was there problems in the election?
Yes, and they've been shown to be proved.
Did it actually change undoubtedly the votes that was actually counted?
No.
You know how I know that?
Because ever since January 20th of 2021, Joe Biden has been president.
Okay, shut up.
I mean, because especially from some Democrats that I, you know, dealt with and look at and everything else, I mean, they have been, before he was even sworn in, they were trying everything they could.
Remember the counter protest to the inaugural parade, where you had the people in the pink hats going and busting wind storefronts in Washington, D.C., riots breaking out.
Okay, explain to me, you know, this, again, it's just a whole lot different.
And this is just a problem.
But I do have one thing, a serious note, if you will allow.
And we'll discuss this more in depth in another podcast.
But I do want to bring up, does this not just show the hypocrisy of cash bail?
You know, we have a lot of conversations about bail reform and no bail and all this stuff.
But doesn't this case just actually, in my mind, just show you the hypocrisy of bail?
It means we go back to a system in which we believe money is the determinant here.
$200,000 or $20,000 to Donald Trump that he just gave away is nothing.
It's not going to keep him in court.
It's not going to keep him from doing things.
You know, it's just not.
I mean, can you imagine the Secret Service calling up to the headquarters and saying, hey, we lost him?
What do you mean you lost?
Lost who?
We lost the president.
Who?
What?
I mean, no, well, we were watching and he just eluded us.
Are you kidding me?
He's 78 years old.
He ain't going down a three-story back window with help from clandestine operators to get on his boat and go into the middle of the Atlantic and get lost.
This isn't Jeffrey Epstein who mysteriously kills himself in his own cell, okay?
Right.
You know, again, it's just, but then again, you go into it, and I'm doing a lot of work in criminal justice reform.
You know, this issue is you keep people in jail with denying bail or setting bail at levels where they can't get out or it forces them.
And we got so many people probably sitting in the same Fulton County jail down there with bonds far less than Donald Trump and any of the other co-defendants in this case who can't get out because they can't afford $200.
And we're feeding them three meals a day and providing medical care and keeping them in a squalor environment that is overcrowded because we can't understand that you keep the bad ones in jail and you work out other alternatives for those who committed a crime and still keep your community safe.
Yeah.
There's my one-minute rant on Friday.
I'm just sick of it.
I'm with you, Doug.
Do you want to get a little lighter?
Oh, okay.
I got one for you.
Is it just hilarious now that we're having the discussion in turning to football, which, by the way, we'll turn to football here for the show.
Last week of preseason is coming upon us, and if you've watched any of the games so far, they have been completely, for the most part, horrid.
Completely devoid of actual football?
Yes.
I mean, because what's happening, like, okay, I'll take the Falcons.
And look, I'm not having a lot of hope for my Falcons this year.
I mean, I'm hopeful, but, you know, and I got my Raiders hat on, and I'm hopeful a little bit there.
But...
Pittsburgh came into Atlanta last night.
Atlanta had most of its starters, which I ain't figured out.
You know, until you become the Kansas City freaking Chiefs, I'm sorry.
You ought to play it a little bit.
You ought to at least dress out.
You ain't one jack.
See, we differ on there.
I don't think you should play a single starter.
Hide them until the season starts.
I don't want to see an injury.
I don't want to see anything stupid happen.
You can play them for one drive.
In the entire preseason.
If I see Kirk Cousins in a suit, I am driving to Minnesota and I'm pulling him off the field.
If Justin Jefferson gets dressed, absolutely not.
You know what we've just done though, James?
We've just made the first three games of the regular season, which you're paying big money to go watch these games be preseason games.
Bullcrap.
No, I'm fine with it.
If Justin Jefferson gets hurt in the preseason, I'll start crying.
I mean that wholeheartedly.
I'm not saying play him every game.
I know what you're saying.
I'm kidding.
I'm with you.
They have to play a little bit.
Especially if you stink.
Oh yeah, if you're bad, give me a break.
You've got to practice all the time.
You know, you don't run Justin Jefferson across the middle in preseason, okay?
No, no.
He runs wide out and then he goes out of bounds if somebody gets near him.
Yeah, okay.
But last night, back to Kenny Pickett and the Steelers' first offense was in for three or four series, I think it was, last night.
Atlanta had its second and third team defense in.
Pickett picked them apart like Pittsburgh playing Bodunk State.
I mean, it was ugly.
They took the ball the first drive of the night.
They were on their own eight, I think it was, and eight plays later went 96 yards.
Well, Doug, nobody said that it was going to be fun to watch the Atlanta defense.
They only are talking about the offense.
No, and then the offense just didn't exist either because we didn't.
I mean, it was really an interesting...
Speaking of which, though, the other game on Thursday night was Philadelphia Eagles and...
Was that right?
Yeah, Philly and Indianapolis.
Your guy, Richardson...
My man.
He threw for his average 50% completion rate.
Don't worry about the completion percentage.
He's just getting started.
It's not a concern right now.
You know, I have to say this.
Right now, he reminds me a lot.
And you're probably going to disagree with me and probably throw things at the screen.
He reminds me of the quarterback at Arizona.
Detective Baby Legs?
Kyler Murray?
He can run.
And if all else fails, that's what he's going to do is run.
And he ran several times last night, and he did make half his passes.
I'll give him that.
He's got 12 feet on Kyler Murray.
But it doesn't matter.
It's the same style.
Murray couldn't see over the line, so he has to run.
Richardson has trouble, it looks like, picking out receiver patterns, and he has to run.
It will get him through.
I'm going to give you credit, James, for this.
It'll get him through a few games this year.
But when you start having pro defenses, linebackers who run as fast as he does, Start mirroring him in a game.
And then you watch him last night miss passes.
Now he got a couple of good ones.
I don't deny that every pass he throws is bad.
But There's an issue here.
But I say all of this to say he was doing this against a third-team and second-team Eagles defense that was not blitzing him.
So again, I don't get the value of the preseason game.
We might as well call them scrimmages and make the...
And if the NFL really wanted to...
Get even bigger, I think, with fans, and I think they could probably tell me, Doug, we're fine, we don't need anything, is let all the preseason games tickets be for $5 and devote it all to charity.
I like that idea.
I think they should do more charity because the NFL pretends it cares about people.
And all preseason tickets...
See, that's the problem, though, is that they'll never end the preseason because they never want to stop making money.
But, Doug, can I make my case for Anthony Richardson real quick?
Go, Ronnie.
Ten seconds, and then we'll move along.
There's two quarterbacks.
Their names are Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts.
In the beginning, things were rough.
The seas were not as calm as they are now.
The Josh Allen turn happened when he cleared a Minnesota Viking by jumping over him, and it changed his life forever.
I'll never forget that because no one else will let me forget about it.
But those guys had ugly percentages in the beginning.
They are now MVP candidates and they are taking their teams to AFC Championship games and NFC Championship games and even a Super Bowl.
I'm not saying Anthony Richardson is going to be them, but with all that talent, I bet my money on it.
Now, the real question is, will the Colts...
Trade their star running back and ruin this man's career.
Because that's what Anthony Richardson needs is a stable back.
and instead of just throwing a couple extra dollars at him, they're going to trade him and screw this whole thing up for me and I'm going to look like an idiot at the end of the season.
Oh, Doug.
Just agree with me one time.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'll give you the chance that he has the ability.
Here's what I will disagree with.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Okay?
I'll disagree with the fact of a Josh Allen-Jalen Hurts comparison.
And I'll tell you what.
At Wyoming, after going to a JUCO, Josh Allen went to Wyoming and...
He was injured, but then he came back, and then he threw for over 3,200 yards, 28 touchdowns in 2016. Yeah, but they played like two people.
He contemplated actually going back to school, to going into the draft, and then didn't.
And then in 2017, he threw for another 18, almost 2,000 yards.
His passer rating was 137. He played two full years in college.
You don't have to remind me where Jalen Hurts went to college.
Yeah, because he got pulled during the biggest game of the year.
Yeah, went to college in Oklahoma and then won.
Okay?
Plenty of experience.
Anthony Richardson played a grand total of, I think it was eight games, a quarterback for the University of Florida on a very bad team.
He had a throwing percentage that was anemic at best.
Can he overcome this?
Yeah, anybody can.
Tom Brady became the greatest quarterback that we've seen probably in NFL history almost and was an afterthought.
Yeah, of course.
But...
But...
The ones that actually end up making, there's some foundation.
If he makes it, great.
I will applaud it and say I was wrong.
Okay?
But I do not want to hear he got third pick or was it third overall pick or fourth overall pick because he's the second coming of Patrick Mahomes.
I've heard so much about, oh, he's going to be great.
The Patrick Mahomes comparisons are insane.
It's the same with Caleb Williams right now.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Don't even get me started.
How are you comparing people to Patrick Mahomes?
This is what I don't understand.
Have you seen Patrick Mahomes play football?
No.
The only person before him was Aaron Rodgers that you could compare anyone to, and no one did that until Patrick Mahomes played in the NFL. Not in college, in the NFL. But again, he had a career in college that was decent.
I agree.
I agree.
Alright, so you're thinking it's possible it's going to end up in the Trey Lance route, which has...
Listen, you know Ryan Clark on ESPN. I think that man is a genius.
I think he's hilarious, but I also think that he usually says the right thing.
He said, when are we going to start talking about the fact that the...
The 49ers made one of the worst early picks in NFL history with Trey Lance.
They traded up to get him.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And everybody was telling...
I remember this going back two years ago.
I remember all the talk about this on sports radio and talk radio.
Was it going to be Trey Lance?
You know, this was the whole deal.
You know, Trey's going to be the one.
And who else was it?
Well, there's a lot of Trevor Lawrence in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they went back and forth.
And they said, oh, we're going to get up to Trey.
And Trey's going to be like, look...
Trey Lance, unfortunately, right now for him, and I feel, again, I don't think he's probably ready for that anyway, but we're in Ryan Leaf territory right now with Trey Lance.
It's worse than that, because Ryan Leaf got a chance to play.
Ryan Leaf in college looked like an absolute bona fide pick, where Trey Lance didn't even show that much in college.
Just like you're saying with Anthony Richardson, he barely showed anything.
And yet they went so high to take him, which I understand your argument for Anthony Richardson.
I just think we saw a little more to Anthony Richardson.
I don't think we saw anything from Trey Lance.
I just think there's other motives there, other agendas there, and, you know, of let's see what we can do.
He's got this.
We're going to try that.
And look, we'll see how it all works out.
But, you know, at this point in time...
Do you want to hear Trey Lance's NFL stats as of 2022?
Yeah, let's hear it.
102 attempts...
56 completions, 5 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, 797 yards.
He's barely, I know he got injured, but man, to put that, and they're going to have to trade him now that he's the number 3 quarterback.
Sam Darnold's taking the spot, obviously, if anyone heard the news, but they're going to have to get rid of him.
They have to move on, and if you're a team looking for a young quarterback, take a shot.
There's nothing to lose.
Nothing really to gain either.
I just don't know what they're going to want for him, but if it's not a lot, then get rid of him.
I hope he's invested wisely.
That's my biggest hope.
Oh, I'm sure he has.
I hope so.
I hope so.
By the way, tomorrow morning, game day, college game day is back.
How crazy is that?
There is a heaven, and I knew it before I even knew this, but yes.
And interestingly enough, okay, let's deal in something before we get into it.
We're going to start a tradition, and we talked about this.
We're going to start a tradition of doing picks here on the show, and we're going to write them down, and we'll talk about how we did and how we didn't do it.
All right.
The next big thing, though, is Pat McAfee and David Pollock.
You could just see it last year when they brought McAfee in.
McAfee brought, like, a caffeine jolt to the senior adult home.
Okay?
I mean...
He's an unbelievable...
He's so much fun.
I love that dude.
And at first, I wasn't sure.
I'm going to be honest.
I wasn't sure, but I've grown to like Pat McAfee.
Okay?
A lot.
And, you know, he's done well.
But, you know, you could just see it in Pollock's eyes the first couple of times when they put him at the table next to him.
And look, Pollock, I've known from Georgia, and there's a lot of stories we could go on there.
But, you know, it had to be a kick in the rear for Pollock to get let go over the summer.
For sure.
He's not with ESPN. I'm not sure what he's doing.
He is boring, though.
I mean, not to be unfair.
But if he had worked at it, he had tried hard.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
McAfee just had everything going for him.
But anyway, McAfee's back.
Corso is supposedly back as well.
We'll see how that goes as we go.
But as we get ready for tomorrow...
Games kick off.
There's other games all around.
The first big game, though, is 2.30.
Navy and Notre Dame from Dublin, Ireland.
Dan Patrick, the former SportsCenter host, does his own show, obviously, and he's down there right now.
They had Will Ferrell, and they were doing the whole thing.
It was awesome.
Yeah, it's going to be pretty cool.
Look, I will say this and say this and say this and say this.
Look, I'll take Navy in the line.
I'll take Navy in 20 and a half.
Yeah.
That was a 20 and a half.
We're going to make it a habit.
What we're going to do, we're not going to take the cheap way out here.
For this season, James and Doug are not going to take the cheap way out.
If you want in on this, go to the DougCollinsPodcast.com, hit on that email button and let me know what you'd like to see us pick for the next week coming up.
But we're not going to take the easy way out, James.
You're going to have to take the line and not just the money line.
Okay?
Okay.
So I'll take Navy and the 20 and a half.
All right, well, I'm not going to disagree with you.
I'm taking that, too.
Okay, so you take Navy and 21. Here's my...
Okay, this gives me my second for just a minute.
I think Notre Dame, for the last 30 years of existence, is the most overrated, over-talked-about, absolutely do-nothing football program in America.
I am sick of the USC schedule saying, well, they've got Notre Dame on the schedule this year.
I'm tired of them being, well, we need them in the ACC.
Well, what about Notre Dame?
They're one of the elite programs in the country.
No, they're not.
If they're an elite program, I've got three high school teams that can play competitively with them.
When do we get rid of and realize that Newt Rodney and Ronald Reagan are dead and Lou Holtz hadn't coached them in 30 years?
You know, you're really disrespecting Manti Teo and Brady Quinn right now.
Maniteo can go to his girlfriend and discuss it.
Give me a break.
Alright, I'm moving on before I get a lot of hate from Dublin.
Where you get hate from the Catholic community?
And I'm Irish.
So anyway.
Alright.
San Jose State and USC. What's the money line?
Like 50?
31. Or we can do over-under.
66 and a half.
Or...
The 66.5 is the over?
Yep.
It's going to be...
They're going to win like 40-0.
No, I'm not taking that.
No.
Okay, so you want to take the under?
I'm taking the under.
You write that down.
You're taking the under.
I'm going to take in a surprise.
Now, I heard this earlier today that if you had the first half bets, it's 17.5 point lead in the first half.
I'm not going to take that, although I would like to because I think USC is going to do something.
I'm going to go again with the dog.
I'm going to take the 31 and San Jose State.
Yeah.
They don't have a defense.
Look, USC hasn't proved anything on defense yet.
Alright, let's see.
Also, what else?
Wait, do we want to choose the over-under or do we want to take the points?
I'll do the points with you.
We'll do either one.
I'll say...
We'll keep it with the points.
It says 31. I'm going to take USC. I don't care.
You're saying USC covers.
I say San Jose State.
You know...
San Jose covers, for sure.
I think they cover.
I think they cover.
One, we may have to just deal with this one on the discussion because of...
Well, actually, we're going to have to for next week.
But next Thursday night is actually one of the bigger games.
Here's one, though.
Florida-Utah, next Thursday night, August 31st.
Utah is a five-point favorite over unders 45 on this game.
Utah is the favorite over Florida?
Yeah, I'll take that.
Yeah, I'll take that.
You'll take Florida in five, or you'll take Utah?
No, no, Utah.
I'm going to have to take Utah on this one as well.
It's actually in Salt Lake at Rice Eccles, so I'm going to take Utah.
Five-point game, absolutely.
That's just a touchdown, for sure.
I'm going to take Utah on that one.
Let's see if I can find the last little bit here.
Oh, fiddle.
All right, let's pick out another.
Oh, here's one tomorrow.
UTEP Jacksonville State.
So you want to make it difficult.
Yeah, I don't have a line on this one.
They don't have one?
Don't worry, Doug.
They have one.
We just got to find it.
Yeah, I got to find it.
UTEP and Jacksonville.
Jacksonville State Prediction.
I don't care.
The Miners are a one-point favorite versus Jacksonville.
I'm going to take Jacksonville State simply because they want to prove that they wasn't just simply...
Deion Sanders?
Deion Sanders.
I'll take Jacksonville.
Alright.
Yeah, that's too close.
I'll do the same.
Okay.
Last pick.
Here it is.
Vanderbilt in Hawaii.
In Vandy at the First Bank Stadium, which is basically moving into a remodeled house that hasn't been remodeled yet.
What's the spread?
Last I saw on that one was 17.5 or 16.5.
Vandy?
Yeah, I'm going to take Vanderbilt.
It's in Vanderbilt for sure.
Yeah, I think I'll take Vandy on that one as well.
So, anyway.
Alright, so we only disagree on one right now and we want to do one more and then I'll just purposely disagree with you?
What's the line on UMass and New Mexico State?
UMass, New Mexico, Lion.
Okay.
I'm looking here right now.
So it looks like UMass versus New Mexico State minus seven.
So they're giving UMass seven points.
I'll take the UMass in seven.
No, I'm taking New Mexico State, so we'll split on that.
We'll split on that one.
Okay.
Look, folks, we're going to do college.
We're going to do pro.
When pro gets in here, I'm not going to do anything on preseason.
Let me ask you something.
When pro season starts, right?
Yep.
We'll tally at the end of the season.
Yep.
We'll do this for pro, not college, because I think college is way more unpredictable.
Yep.
In my opinion.
I will say at the end of the season, the loser buys dinner for the NFL. We're on.
We're on.
I love it.
I'm so excited for football, Doug.
I'm shaking.
I don't know if you know this, your son is now in one of my fantasy football leagues.
No, I didn't.
I dragged him in.
Yeah, I was like, we needed a 12th guy, and I was like, oh wait, I'm going to ask Cam.
So, your son has now been dragged in.
I love it.
You got the bow, man.
All right.
Well, cool.
Well, everybody, it's great to be with you here on the podcast.
It's always good when we just have a good time talking with James.
And so, look, we'll see you next time on the Doug Collins Podcast.
Go out and have a good one.
And remember, football is tomorrow.
It's game day.
Say goodbye, James.
Take care, everybody.
Enjoy the football.
All right.
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