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July 10, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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Ukraine to Cocaine, Culture and Congress
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You want to listen to a podcast?
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In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Doug Collins Show on the Doug Collins Podcast.
Glad to have you here.
Another week started in just a minute.
We're going to take a deep dive into Congress and it's, they're back.
Be careful, they're back.
No, they're back this week for three weeks in July, which leads to a five week, almost six week break in August.
Here's the interesting thing about it.
We're going to talk about this here in just a minute after the break.
What's up on the agenda?
You would be amazed at what is still left for Congress to do.
Everybody talks about Congress not getting things done.
They've left a lot on the table.
I want to explain it to you, break it down for you, just so that you know what is coming up and what's not coming up and what not to expect and what to expect.
I think those are the interesting things.
I think one of the things I want to deal with today as we get ready for this episode is what I'll just say is expectations.
What is expectations for this fall?
I know some of you have zero expectations for Congress and I get it.
I've been there.
I've been a member of it.
But I think there are some things that they can do.
The question will be, how much will they get done?
And frankly, how much has been promised that can't be done?
So again, in just a minute, we're going to get into that.
Also getting into some Biden.
Biden's in Europe.
God help us all.
He's in London.
Maybe he'll figure out that the Queen is dead now because he's meeting with the King instead of doing his God Save the Queen routine as we go forward.
A lot going on, though, but wanted to start off this week just by giving you a good update on here's what to expect.
So we'll be back here in just a minute on the Doug Collins Podcast.
I'll start breaking it down.
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All right, we're breaking it down here on the Doug Collins podcast.
Let's start off with Biden in Europe.
I mean, this is scary.
I mean, this is the same.
Folks, I know, frankly, if you're a liberal listener, you're Republican, Democrat, whatever, there's just got to be a problem at some point here that we've got to address, and that Biden has always had the slip of the tongue.
He's always had the...
Remember, it was President Obama himself that said, never underestimate the ability for Joe Biden to F things up.
That's his own work.
That's his own president to vice president works.
And just this past week, in a conversation, it was let out that the U.S. was looking to send cluster bombs to Ukraine.
I mean, this was a live mic call, and this is a concern.
If he's throwing out stuff and doesn't have, frankly, the wherewithal to not talk about things like that on the air, which, by the way, most countries in the world, except us, have banned the use of cluster bombs.
It's just highlighted even more so that this is really concerning.
Now, again, does Joe Biden, I've had conversations with folks, I've had others have had conversations about him behind the scenes, seemingly getting stuff done.
Okay, great.
But there's too many slip-ups and other things happening in the public appearances that cause people to really wonder.
So he's in England right now.
We'll be going over to the NATO summit and then on and then back.
NATO summit is going to be really big because this is going to be dealing with Ukraine coming into NATO. All expectations is...
Again, expectations may not meet reality, but expectations is that Germany and the U.S. will continue to slow-walk it, or maybe not outright oppose, but slow-walk NATO membership for the Ukraine.
Real quickly here, and this is something that we've talked about on the podcast before last year when the Ukraine-Russia war broke out when Russia invaded Ukraine, is there's an understanding that That Ukraine was the off-limit zone for Russia.
If you go back to historical purposes here, Ukraine has such a large historical role in that region, in Russia, in the old Soviet Union.
So many leaders, they're just so much intertwined between Ukraine and what we know as modern-day Russia.
The Federation now.
And again, it makes it very difficult, but Russia has always talked about the fact of NATO expansion and Ukraine being one of many, but being one that they say, you know, look, NATO is, this is off limits.
They're too close.
We don't want this here.
Again, and for those of you out there who get, you know, very upset with, okay, well, Russia can decide whatever they want to do.
We're going to decide what we want to do.
Fine.
I just have to remind you that just this past couple of weeks, China has said that they're wanting to start a base, a joint base operations with Cuba.
Does that country ring a bell to anybody?
90 miles off the Florida Keys, right across the channel there, 90 miles.
And of course, what was the natural reaction from the United States?
Very much concerned.
Whatever we can do to stop it.
We don't want China in Cuba.
I'm not justifying war by any means.
Russia, Putin ought to be gone.
I mean, Russia is a totalitarian state that is just a problem on the world stage.
But also, there is this issue here.
At this point, everybody's gotten themselves so dug in here.
The question is, how can we avoid further escalation?
And getting this thing solved, Russia getting out of Ukraine, and Ukraine giving some sort of semblance of protection, while at the same point That Russia has its own safety concerns, if you would, about, you know, Western involvement in something that borders their country.
I mean, these are the issues that have plagued this for the last year and a half.
And now you're in the middle of the Ukraine counteroffensive that does not seem to be going as well as they thought it was going to be going.
And now NATO is meeting.
So again, I just put this out there, folks, to say, look, Joe Biden's going to be there.
We'll see what happens coming this way.
But for Look, it's not just as simple as people are making this out to be.
Now, I'm going to take it a step further.
You're going to get into spending bills, which we're going to talk about here in a little bit, in Congress, and you've got a real problem with Ukraine spending and the amount of money we're sending to Ukraine.
Is it actually doing what it was supposed to be doing?
Is it spent the way it's supposed to be spent?
It's interesting to me that some of the folks who have been the most vocal at Ukraine spending have also been very silent or very less vocal on actual accountability of where that spending is going.
I think you're going to see a lot of discussion about that here coming weeks.
Today on Monday, you got Biden meeting with the Prime Minister in Britain.
You got the meeting with King Charles.
You got the meetings then starting up in NATO. So that's why you need to be aware of it.
But Biden himself is becoming more and more of an issue.
There was an article just out that came out over the weekend and is starting to get some traction on the behind-the-scenes Biden as they portray him as this sort of old, lovable uncle that just is a little bit different as he gets older.
He also, Axios actually put out an article And which shows him to be basically a bully.
And they're saying that it's a quote, speaking Biden.
They go back into this time where Biden will taunt or play stump the dummy, so to speak, I think the words they use, on people who come in and brief him.
And he'll find things in reports just to get to the point where they don't know what they're talking about and then use, you know, yell at them, saying they don't know what they're talking about, using expiratives in that, profanity.
Again, I'm not sure what leadership life you came from, but that just is not good leadership.
Asking questions, helping people find answers, good leadership.
But also, it's interesting to me that they said this has gone on for a long time, that he's just sort of a bully behind the scenes.
And as he was younger, you could probably see this a little bit more on the Senate for him.
But now it's questioning to me is why is this public perception of him sort of bumbling around, misstating, saying things that people don't understand, getting his words mangled, and then yet now a story coming out in the background that in the White House that people try to avoid him because he lashes out.
Well, folks, those kind of conditions are not absent from many who get older, but it is also a concern of, you know, is he still, you know, functioning in a leadership role that we have seen?
And I think that's just going to be a concern as this election season comes about.
Again, you know, he's functioning.
He's doing everything right.
I mean, that's what the Biden administration will portray.
That's what they'll continue to do in this election cycle.
But these kind of stories, I'm just not sure, you know, if this came from the Biden camp or not come from the Biden camp, and they made it really look like that, you know, this was learning Biden, that you had to learn how to speak Biden.
If they think that's a good thing, there can be a lot of people look at that and say, I'm not so sure.
I think that may be, you know, there may be some other issues going on here.
So this is, again, just a perception problem that Joe Biden has with he can't get things straight, he's bumbling, he's having trouble walking, he gets lost on stage, you know, which again was on display even this weekend.
Really forces people to wonder, you know, what are we looking at if we go into this election cycle?
And for many of us conservatives, you know, God forbid that he wins four more years.
I mean, this is just a problem, especially when you have Kamala Harris, the vice president, who last week, and we're going to put this clip in here, right here, because you've got to hear this from Kamala Harris last week at the Essence Conference.
I can't make this up, folks.
What do you make of that?
I mean, you ask a simple question, and this is what we get.
You know, time, culture, all this.
And then just in the middle of it, just sort of laughs.
It comes in the morning.
Well, okay, I'm sure you're talking about joy, and that's a biblical attribution.
I get it, but you're forcing everything.
This is the best the Democrats have to offer.
Folks, we've got a full field of Republican candidates.
Donald Trump is running away with it right now.
DeSantis is doing his best, spending all the money he can to try and fix it.
You've got other candidates doing the same thing.
But I will take any of them over Biden-Harris, believe me, as we go forward.
That brings us to another, as we do the topics of the day, and that is, why is it so hard?
How many Secret Service agents does it take to find the cocaine in the White House?
I mean, I know this sounds like the start of a bad joke, but over the past week, and it's been going on for a week now, cocaine was found in the White House.
Let's first off talk about the fact that, first off, it was said that they didn't know what it was.
Hazmat was called.
They got it.
Field testing said it was cocaine.
Then the White House tried to tap that down, saying, well, it's not there yet, and then they finally got their test results back.
It was cocaine.
Then it started off, well, it was in, The West Wing, then it was in a visitor's area, then it was in the library, then it was in a cubby, and now they're actually saying it was in a cubby somewhere close to the Situation Room, which is, you know, if you look at any map, a publicly available map, you see where the Situation Room is in comparison to the doorways and the parking lots between the OEB, the old executive building, and the White House, West Wing.
So, again, we see where this is at.
I would just say from personal experience, All people coming in and out of the White House, even if they don't have to sign in and out, people know who's coming in and out.
The Secret Service know who their people are.
The White House West Wing people are all cards that they get in and out of.
So it's in past the family of Joe Biden and the Vice President.
Everybody knows who's in that building.
Number two, everybody is going through cameras and facial recognition.
There's all this security there.
From where this is supposedly at, you've got security sitting very close by there.
My question is, and this has become the one that has just buffaloed many, and we sort of mentioned it on the podcast, but I have to delve into it because I never thought this was going to go a week.
Now, there's a lot of folks who have said, oh, of course, it's Hunter Biden's.
I'm not saying that.
It could be.
It could not be.
It could be anybody's.
But the simple fact that they're going to DNA testing, fingerprint testing on a baggie of cocaine is just amazing to me when you have all of these other security outlets and security cameras and everything there.
The question really comes, is this.
And this was said on an interview that I was on the other day that the Secret Service folks who've dealt with this say this was solved a long time ago.
They know who it is.
And if they don't know who it is, then it really begs the question, how much security do we have at the White House?
And how much more do we actually need?
If they can actually...
I mean, God forbid...
If it was this easy to drop cocaine in a cubby or somewhere close to the situation room, if wherever they got it pegged is now, which by the way, they also know exactly where it was pegged, the hazmat units were called, for God's sakes.
Why we kept getting different opinions on where it was at is beyond me.
Are you kidding me?
They were called to investigate it.
The first rule of investigation is know where you're going and write it down.
But now we're here.
We're almost a week into this thing, right out of week, and we still are kind of unsure where it was first located.
We still are not told whose it is.
We're still not sure.
Secret Service last week gave this comment that, well, we may never know.
For me and for you folks, this is a problem.
This should be an interesting issue for any I don't care what party you're in.
I don't care who's the president and what party that makes them from.
If the Secret Service and the security details that are around that building cannot tell us that kind of information, then we've got a problem.
Or narrow it down to at least three or four people.
Okay, fine.
At first blush, you can't tell exactly who dropped it, but can you tell at least down to four or five or six or eight or ten who came by there?
Who, if it wasn't a cubby, actually opened the cubby?
And again, folks, we have trouble with people believing anything that comes out of the government right now.
Cocaine in the White House.
One, I never thought I'd have to say that.
And then we had mainstream media sort of covering it up, saying, well, nobody may know.
And remember, Willie Nelson got high on top of the White House.
And folks, we're downplaying an event here.
And look, I get it that sometimes, you know, the drugs are there.
Am I so crazy to believe that there may not be somebody's pocketbook or purse or briefcase in there right now?
No, probably not.
But the way it was left and left out in a substance that nobody knew what it was, and in fact to the point where they had to call a hazmat, they were concerned it could have been an anthrax or some kind of other powder, that is a concern.
And if you don't think it is, then you're too partisan to see past the nose on your face.
I can't help you.
Republicans, Democrats, both should say, this shouldn't take this long, and if Congress needs to do something to help beef up the security at the White House, then they need to get on it this week when they're back.
But no, this has become political.
Everybody's just brushing it off.
Nobody's talking about it in the news cycle.
Mainstream media has already quit talking about it.
Again, let me just say, for instance, I do not believe that the mainstream media would still not be talking about this if Donald Trump was in the White House, or any other Republican for that matter.
He would still be on the top of the network.
So, again, this is the Biden White House, folks.
This is what we're seeing.
This is the problem that we have.
At this point, and as we go forward in this, I... It's just concerning.
I mean, when you look at, you know, what is going on and how it's happening and the answers that we don't get from this administration.
I mean, it's one thing to not get answers from the administration about, you know, policy questions or others, but when you have no answers on Hunter Biden, you have no answers on the cocaine, you have no answers, and then actually try to use the Hatch Act to get out of a question on Hunter Biden and the cocaine, it's like, Again, this is a problem.
So moving on from the Biden administration, let's go to this week in Congress.
They're back this week, and they've got a lot left to do.
I told you in the preview that we have a lot of things left to do.
There's only 12 legislative days until the August recess starts.
Now, 12 legislative days basically equips to four days for the next three weeks is the way you want to look at it.
And if you really want to get technical about it, You'll have tomorrow and this evening, when the Senate comes in, they come in in the evening.
The House, for instance, will come in tomorrow evening, vote on their first bill, suspension bills.
These are typically unanimous bills that everybody votes for.
And they're flying out again on Friday.
So the truth of the matter is, unless they held out for the NDAA, National Defense Authorization Act, which we'll talk about here in a minute, the House will be in for two full days and then out again on Friday, back in probably on Monday for two full days, Tuesday, Wednesday, out on Thursday, and then back in probably on Monday for two full days, Tuesday, Wednesday, out on Thursday, and then sort of a similar setup These are issues that, again, normal happenings in Congress.
Nothing is new here.
What is pressing now is the fact that after they made the deal for the debt ceiling, They have now left themselves to pass all 12 appropriations bills this year.
It is interesting that they did not use September 30th, it looks like, as the deadline for that.
They used January 1 as the deadline for this, which again, For folks out there keeping score at home, the federal budget runs out on September 30th, not January 1st.
And if appropriations bills are not passed by then, you either have one of two options.
You shut down the government, number one.
Number two, you pass a CR, a continuing resolution, which keeps all the basic spending platforms that you currently have in place in place until you pass something else.
Or some ways you get a A bill that is what we call the omnibus, where you have part of it is spending bills or cromnibus, where you have a CR and an omnibus.
I mean, so again, this idea of passing all 12 looks to be already not existent, and you've got 12 legislative days to do it for fiscal year 2024. Some of the things that's just frankly not done yet, National Defense Authorization Act, which the House is going to take up this week.
And if you're one of those wonky ones who want to sit up late and watch the floor of the House on C-SPAN, get ready, you're going to have long days on the House floor.
They had over 1,400 amendments filed on this bill, many of which are not germane.
If you're not sure what germane means, it means that if an amendment is authored, it has to be related to the underlying bill.
If it is not related to the underlying bill that is declared non-germane, it should not be voted on.
This is where it gets interesting.
The Republicans in the House are the purveyors of germaneness right now.
The Rules Committee is going through this process, and it is my understanding that many of both sides of the aisle have submitted non-germane amendments.
We'll see how this works out.
The House Freedom Congress has submitted several that are not germane, but have said that they've got to be taking a vote on, or they may hold out votes for the bill.
Remember, the House only has, Republicans only have a margin of five to play with.
And we saw what happens when one or two groups sits back and says, we're not voting for something.
So this is going to go...
And interesting, 1,400 amendments will not be voted on, but the question is how many will?
Some will come and block.
In other words, they'll put 20 or 30 amendments together, and everybody, you vote one vote on that amendment, block, and that's how they get rid of a lot of them at times.
Simply, they'll put together amendments that nobody has any objections to.
They'll put 20, 30, or 40 of those together.
They'll do 10 minutes, 20 minutes to talk about the amendments.
Anybody can come up and talk about them.
Then you have a big vote on the package.
That doesn't mean that they're going to finally end up in the bill when the Senate gets it, but it is something to look at.
What does this bill have?
It's an $886 billion package.
It's about half of the discretionary spending of the budget, little give or take, however you want to cut it.
So over half the discretionary spending, what Congress can actually go back and forth on, is tied up in this defense bill.
It includes a 5.2% pay hike for service members, hundreds of millions of dollars for quality of life improvement.
There will be base housing, other things like that.
It also has 300 million in new funding for Ukraine, which will be interesting to see how that gets through the House, especially with some of the Republicans who said we don't need to continue spending in Ukraine.
I'm really curious as to how that 300 million is going to be perceived by some of the conservatives and others in the House as far as spending in Ukraine.
It does put more money into the Pacific strategy to confront China, so we'll see how that goes.
Senate's got a bigger issue on this, and that's coming from Tommy Tuberville, who's holding up senior military-level promotions on the abortion issue.
It's going to be interesting to see how this actually goes.
Other things that are still left to be done but not doing as much, Senate is actually taking up, the Appropriations Committee is taking up markups on the legislative branch, Commerce, Justice, and Science, CJS is what it's called, Financial Services, and General Government Spending Bills.
That's four of the 12 spending bills, and they're going to actually mark these up at the 2023, the levels that was approved about five weeks ago, and the debt ceiling limit.
Reminder, the House is going to mark their bills up as they go through it at 2022 levels.
So you're already headed for a roadblock in these bills being spent because, one, the Senate's going to do it at the higher amount, the House is going to do it at the lower amount, and many in the House have said, if we're not at this level, I won't vote for the final bill.
Well, I pretty much guarantee you going into this that most, if not all, of the numbers are going to be higher than what the House passes.
Mainly because you have a president that can veto it and you have a Senate that's Democrat.
Now, some of them may be closer, but this is going to present the issue that I spoke of just a few minutes ago, and that being the fact that September 30th being this deadline for shutdown of the government, a continuing resolution.
I think right now I would say it's going to be more continuing resolution, and they'll probably get it done fairly quickly.
And then the rest of the fall will be, and into early winter, will be consumed with how do we pass these bills.
This is going to be the real test for McCarthy and leadership on getting this out of the House.
The Senate is pretty much lockstep on this.
They'll pass their appropriation bills.
The question is, will they pass all 12 individually?
That's going to be an interesting Then you've got stuff like the Farm Bill.
We're going to talk about the Farm Bill.
I want to do a whole podcast on the Farm Bill.
Most people view the Farm Bill, and it used to be one of the most bipartisan bills on the Hill.
Now it has become a real Problem because 80% of the Farm Bill has nothing to do with farm policy.
It has everything to do with food stamps, subsidies, and welfare, which was bound together in the Farm Bill back in the 60s.
Over the past 15 years, this has become one of the...
It's a bill that's done for every four years.
It's become a real problem getting passed.
And it's sort of stuck in...
Nowhere land right now.
It looks like they're going to try and do an extension on it just to get it passed.
You've also got federal authorization on FAA. This is the Aviation Authority with everything we got going on in the flying right now, flying, getting back to record levels, pre-pandemic levels.
The FAA, the You know, air traffic controllers, everybody else, this is an issue that needs to be passed.
We'll see how this comes.
Typically, most of it has been bipartisan on this, but again, something needs to be passed.
You've also got the Things that, you know, FISA reauthorization.
Again, when that finally does start surfacing, I'm gonna get you up to date on FISA. I had to deal a lot with FISA when I was in Congress.
You're gonna have to, this is the thing that goes back all the way to, you know, the FISA leaks.
This goes back to Eric Snowden.
This goes, again, so a lot of things going on there.
But these are all things that have not been done.
And there are big pieces of legislation that have got to be done that were being taken up with a lot of other things.
Now, one thing we will have this week is hearings.
And you're going to see these in the House Judiciary Committee.
It's going to have Chris Ray on Wednesday of this week.
This is going to be a From the Republican perspective, it'd be a real hostile hearing with Chris Wray.
Nobody is happy with Chris Wray on the Republican side.
Democrats will come to the defense.
We'll see how this all plays out.
In the end, the question is, will it be any emphasis on the, say, the CJS budget, which we talked about the Senate taking up, when it gets to the House, will there be any move to defund Or to hold back money from the Department of Justice, FBI, or anywhere else in between.
Merrick Garland, by the way, coming in September, will be another huge sort of high-profile hearing that has a chance for members to air their grievances.
One that's not going to get a lot of play, as much play in the media, is Lena Kahn from the FTC, Federal Trade Commission, the next day, actually Thursday, In judiciary, again, that's going to be a big one as well, dealing with tech, dealing with mergers, dealing with a lot that's going on in the Biden administration about this.
You'll, again, won't get the headlines that Chris Ray will, but will be an interesting set of hearings for you to look at.
Patrick McHenry, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, who's also going to be doing hearings this week on environmental, social, and government standards, either the ESG standards that House folks have been talking about in regard to financial regulations, and it'll be interesting See what becomes of that as we go forward here.
A lot, again, banking is still a big issue.
These are the kind of things that you have.
Also, there's still a lot of talk, and I'm going to go back and mention this.
There's a lot of talk about The Live, Goff, and PGA having a hearing in Homeland Security in the Senate.
I've said this before on TV. I'm going to say it again here.
I don't understand this hearing except for the...
It's the comms director's dream to get, you know, five minutes on YouTube to...
Have your boss condemn the Khashoggi and human rights violations of Saudi Arabia.
But the Congress itself getting involved in LIV, getting involved in PGA, is just another waste of time that they could be working on some of these other issues.
Even when I was in Washington, there were some hearings that I said, frankly, we don't need to be doing these.
They're out of our realm, but we've seen it before.
We've seen it with We've seen it with steroids in baseball.
We've seen it in professional sports.
We've seen it with concussions.
We've seen it with everything.
If Congress could carve out just a little bit of that time, remember, I've already talked to you about how short their week is anyway, and that doesn't mean that they don't work, and I'm going to be very protective here for a minute.
Members of Congress are pretty much on seven days a week.
They have to go to meetings, they go through everywhere, and they have to have a lot of things going on ranging from running for office to being in office.
But there's a lot of time that is left on the table in Washington, D.C. that does not get used.
And I think for Kevin McCarthy, for Chuck Schumer in the Senate, and for others, they're going to have to start figuring out ways to have more committee time, more floor time, so that they can move some of this product out.
Because right now, the Congress has become the...
We moved a lot of big bills and then some stuff that nobody ever heard of, but nothing that you see of...
Big policy changing items, mainly because of the partisanship, but also mainly because there's just not enough time to do the deep dive to find the consensus and the cooperation to do it.
And that's where you're finding in the National Defense Authorization Act, which should come together, but you're finding a problem in the Farm Bill.
You're finding it in the FISA Act, which will be coming up later.
The Federal Aviation Authorization Act.
You've got other of these that are coming up.
It's just a lot of things to do in a short amount of time.
And look, we're just getting started.
I wanted to give you an update here as we start the three-week push in July, which will lead to a six-week gap.
From the 1st of August to right after Labor Day in Congress, then they're going to come back and they'll have less than three weeks to decide what they're going to do on all of these spending measures.
But that's the look at it from perspective.
From Biden to Congress to everywhere else, this is your update for Monday here on the Doug Collins Podcast.
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