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June 5, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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You want to listen to a podcast?
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Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
How is it?
The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
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In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Hey everybody, back to Friday.
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Glad to have you with us.
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The world stories are here.
We will get to those in just a few minutes after commercial break, but also before I get into a little bit of things.
Before we went to taping, I was thinking about some of the things going on in the world.
We've talked about presidential politics.
We've talked about DeSantis and Trump being in Iowa, we talked about, you know, the new people in the race.
But it is Joe Biden that seems to just still amaze me.
And look, they've had an interesting week in Washington with the debt ceiling vote.
We've talked about this.
It didn't surprise me that it passed.
It didn't surprise me that more Democrats voted for it than Republicans.
Um, there's a, there's a, sometimes there's a thing known in, uh, among members of Congress knows this is vote no, hope yes.
In other words, you vote no because you really can't, your constituents would have a hard time for you understanding voting yes and you don't really want to spend the time to explain it.
Understanding that split government and divided government in Washington, D.C. is a reality.
So it's easier sometimes to vote no and hope yes.
And especially for all those who voted no, you know, look, I'm not denying that there are principled reasons to vote no on this.
Probably I might have voted no myself.
But at the same point in time, you know, the alternatives in this debt ceiling were really more than any of those both sides who voted no would want to face.
And even the ones who voted yes, I don't think really you want to deal with the issue of why the debt continues to grow, because even with this, it's going to grow, and it's going to grow in a large way.
And, you know, in the two-year period, it's because it's uncapped.
These are all kind of things we'll get into, and we'll break down this deal after it's done completely, after the Senate, see what the Senate continues with.
But also, back to Joe Biden for a minute.
I almost saw yesterday, Joe Biden spoke at the Air Force Academy graduation.
Of course, I'm in the Air Force.
I get this.
Glad to see the president was out, you know, speaking.
I mean, I think presidents ought to speak at graduations of the service academies every year.
But then he fell again.
And I read somewhere on social media, and it really made an interesting comment.
It said, if he falls this much on camera, how much does he fall off camera?
And again, not to say that people who are clumsy or don't follow me, I mean, look, Chevy Chase made a billion dollars almost, you know, mimicking Gerald Ford back in the 70s on Saturday Night Live.
I get it, the presidents have been klutzes.
But this one just...
Biden just does not seem to be able to, hey, he has equilibrium problems.
He's got something because he falls all the time.
And like I said, if you wonder, if he does this as much in public, what does he do when it's private?
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All right, everybody.
We're back.
I'm here.
Friday's Finest.
James is here.
Our Texan by way of New Jersey.
James, say hello.
Hello, hello.
All right.
James is back.
James, a lot of things going on.
You know, I want to touch on something I hit on the internet.
And I want to see if it's a generational thing.
Does it bother young people as much as maybe it bothers seemingly maybe more my generation or others that Joe Biden just seems to not be able to stand up straight?
Or do they really care?
I think...
I don't...
Well, no.
It's not that we don't care.
I think it's, one, we feel bad in the first place, right?
Because...
All right.
We can poke fun when people fall, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
But at some point, you're like, well, this guy might just not be okay.
Yeah.
Not like, really, right?
Okay, when somebody trips walking the red carpet, you're like, that sucks, but that's hilarious.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
When someone does it as often as he does, you're like, oh, well, like...
What's with his equilibrium?
Exactly.
Like, is he okay?
Like, we should...
And not that, again, like you said, it's not that he can't be president.
It's just, like, let's ask questions, you know?
Well, it's beginning to lay into, should he be president?
Because you're looking at the polls out there.
Well, yeah, you're verging on that because you're like, oh my god.
Alright, this guy can't stand up.
And like you said, if he's falling all tight.
It's a weird one.
Again, it's not something like...
We're not thinking about it all the time, really.
But, you know, it's a weird thing.
I agree.
Anyway, interesting stuff.
Hey, last night, NBA Finals were kicked off.
We don't have the end result here on our taping at this point.
We're taping a little early today.
But let's hit this out a little bit.
I mean, nobody is giving the Miami Heat any love here.
You know, as someone who really does love this game, and I can't wait for these finals, I think they're going to be better than people expect, and so on and so forth.
Man...
Every time you say he can't do something, Jimmy Butler comes out of the rafters and does it.
And again, quite literally everything is stacked against the Miami Heat in this series.
They have no rest.
They don't have home court advantage.
They don't have the best player.
Because Nikola Jokic is just far and above everybody on the planet.
But what they do have...
Is a bunch of dogs.
No way around it.
They got undrafted free agents.
They have Jimmy Butler.
They have a guy like Kyle Lowry who spent his whole career trying to get great.
The first half of Kyle Lowry's career, he was like a good guard but nothing special and then became a perennial all-star.
These guys are grinders.
They have a great coach and they have 180-year-old Udonis Haslam sitting on the sidelines just rooting them on like no other.
And they have the king of the finals in Pat Riley.
Sid back there.
Pat Riley, this is a real stat, has been part of almost 25% of NBA finals.
That's pretty wild.
In one way or another.
That's pretty wild.
Between being a player for the Lakers, coaching the Lakers, and with the Heat as a coach and president.
Yeah, he's still president of the Lakers.
Again, a lot is stacked against him.
I'm sorry, what was that?
Yeah, he's still president, like general man, president of the Heat.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, exactly.
He's been that since 2008. Three?
Four?
After he coached them the first time.
Then he came back for the one season where they won a championship, of course.
And then he went back and gave Eric Spolster the reins.
And another guy who's probably put himself in the top 15, not top 20 coaches in NBA history.
Their run is amazing.
I hope it doesn't end.
And I'm rooting for them because Jimmy Butler is the easiest story to root for in sports right now.
Yeah, I think, yeah, Jimmy, I mean, look, he just kind of, I mean, Jimmy's story is amazing and he's getting the credit he deserves.
I mean, he just, he just is focused and I, and this is kind of somebody who's not an NBA fan.
Okay.
Right, right.
You know, it's just, you know, look, here's another thing.
While we're on the subject, why is it that NBA and NHL have the longest seasons?
It feels that way.
But, yeah, I guess, well, one is with the NBA, it's 82 games and they want to make as much money as humanly possible.
But they have to spread it out a little bit because guys are tired constantly.
But I think the way it feels, like, NFL is 17 weeks away.
You know when the game is on, whatever.
The NBA is a grind.
Not that the NFL isn't, but the NBA and the baseball season and hockey season is a grind because you're playing 80 plus games.
And it feels very long.
I don't mind it.
If it was up to me, I'd have basketball year-round.
I'd watch the European League and stuff like that.
Well, I mean, they start in October.
They end in June.
I mean, at least professional football starts mid-late July, ends in first week in February.
Yeah, I think football starts in August.
Yeah, August.
But, I mean, October to June.
I mean, it's just four months off.
And I know it just seems like an eternity, but it's like every year.
And they're overlapping.
It's just, you know, we'll see how it all works out.
But, you know, again, it'll be an interesting series.
I hope it's a good series.
I do have an interesting take on this.
I've never really thought about it all that much.
But in an NBA series, maybe it would be more than, say, a football game or whatever.
You know, there's a lot of people talking about the altitude.
Oh, it's real.
Yeah, I mean, I've been there.
I know it is.
I'm just saying, crap.
Remember once his name got sick?
Is it an unfair?
What was that?
Who?
I think, was it Ryan Clark who got so sick he couldn't play?
Yeah, somebody did.
I mean, but is it fair?
Is it fair to play a game of that magnitude in those conditions?
Yes, because Denver spent all year getting that number one spot.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I get it.
I know it's different, but it is...
I get it.
It is a weird thing, but if it was somewhere else, we wouldn't even be discussing it, right?
So, like...
You know, Denver needs their fans.
It's a seven-game series.
They have the ultimate home court advantage.
They have the greatest home court advantage of all time, probably, in NBA history outside of, like, I don't know, I mean, maybe going into the Boston Garden when they turned the air off and tried to kill everyone in the 80s.
Yeah, well, the big thing is, the thing that's interesting, though, is for that great home court advantage, this is their first time playing for an NBA championship.
Well, that's because they sucked all the other times during the regular season.
It might be a bigger problem for them than it is for everybody else.
Well, I mean, ask the players when they first get there.
They're like, I can't believe we had to do this.
Like, guys took weeks to, you know, get together.
So I have no doubt that right now they are figuring out a way.
Listen, with the technology today, they probably got their guys doing treadmill runs with low altitude or high altitude so their brains can start to function by the time the game starts.
Yeah, I've read that there's actually stuff out there where if you're going altitude, there's some hoods or something that helps you.
It's better to sleep with a lower oxygen than the day.
I've seen some training athletes to do that.
Trust me, they'll do it.
That's another thing.
People go out to hunt in those altitudes.
And you get that sickness and up and down that mountain sickness.
I've only had it really one time where I really felt it.
And it was last summer, we were in Utah and outside of Salt Lake Park, city up in that park, and I really could feel it.
I've never been to Utah.
I've been to Colorado once and I felt it a little bit, but nothing crazy.
But yeah, Utah, first of all, Utah just seems like, I mean, it's just mountains.
Especially if you're on the ridge right there where we were up in the mountains, the ski mountains and stuff.
I mean, you're up above 10,000.
That's the other thing.
People ski there.
People ski in Colorado.
How do you even...
Whatever.
You know what?
You're not going to get me on a pair of skis.
Bike ride.
They do the mountain biking.
Oh yeah, even that too.
Yeah, you pass out halfway up the mountain.
Yeah, during the summer.
Anyway, so we'll keep up more with how the NBA co-finals will go because believe me, 3-5 to your finest from now, it'll still be going on.
So, as we go.
But we'll see how that all works out.
Oh, interesting for you.
I do have a New York twist.
We always have to put in a New York, New Jersey twist here.
One political, Chris Christie, looks like he's getting in for the former governor of New Jersey, getting in the presidential race next week.
That'll liven it up a little bit.
Yeah.
No one from New Jersey is going to vote for him.
I'll tell you that right now.
And then the...
What about all this talk now?
And I think it's just hilarious.
Then all the New York Jets fans having palpitations over Aaron Rodgers not being able to fully participate in OTAs.
What are people going to learn?
When?
Well, first of all, we are talking about the great state of New York, and all of us...
Okay, I'm from New Jersey.
I can't say I'm from New York.
But our fandom is in New...
The Jets and Giants fandom is heavy in New Jersey, obviously, because our stadium, the stadium is there.
Um...
Our fandom is insanity.
Fandom in general is insanity.
But the people of New York are the most impatient psychopaths on the planet.
And it's true.
We can't function.
I will say that they are loyal but impatient.
And the moment Aaron Rodgers is going to go out there and give them a crazy season with 50 touchdowns and they're going to forget that they ever thought about OTAs.
First of all, it's not that he can't.
He doesn't want to.
And they're not going to make it.
He's fine.
Yeah, he was dancing at the Taylor Swift concert.
Can we talk about this?
Can we take a small moment?
I was trying to talk about this with my brother.
Can you remember the last time there was a tour this big?
Where every human on the planet was trying to get a ticket.
In reality, you probably have...
I mean, this big.
I mean, there's been big ones.
U2s, some other Rolling Stones.
You have to go back to the 70s with...
In the 60s, when the Beatles came to America, Led Zeppelin touring in the 70s.
I was going to say, Zeppelin and The Who...
But also, it was so limited to get their stuff.
You had to wait for their album to come out.
You could only get it at stores.
There's so much access to her.
I am baffled by how many people are killing each other trying to get these tickets.
I really don't know.
I can't remember in recent memory.
A tour taking over the country this way.
Ever.
Again, I'm 30 years old.
I really don't remember anything like this.
And I like her music.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not a Swiftie.
Everyone's a secret Swiftie.
Everyone is a secret Taylor Swift fan.
Some of her music's okay.
I like her early music more than I like her later music.
Yeah, I could care less.
Just put on the jam and let's just go party.
I still got friends in Nashville who remember when she first came to Nashville.
What was that?
2008, 2009?
Or really a little bit further than that.
Yeah, I mean, they've always said she is so driven.
Anyway, we could do a Swift show at some other point, but I think it is pretty interesting.
On a disturbing note, we talk about celebrities here.
Danny Masterson, who was on the 70s show, the ranch, in fact, got pulled off the ranch because of what happened now.
He was found guilty of rape.
And look, if the evidence was there, the jury found him guilty, I mean, that's, you know, again, what happened.
There's been one trial earlier that was ended in a deadlock jury.
This one found him guilty of two counts out of three of a forcible rape.
And it goes back to a tie to Scientology.
And how he was able to keep it quiet for supposedly in the court case so many years was because of his high ranking position in Scientology.
A very sad situation, especially for the young women here, and they were drugged is what their claim was, and now a jury has agreed with them that they were raped.
And that's sort of a surprise for a young up-and-coming actor like Masterson.
And then again, the sort of strange ties to the Scientology stuff.
Yeah, I mean, this one, especially like, I think because, I mean, look, Cosby broke the ceiling, right?
Because to us, that was, you know, he was one of America's dads.
And then that came out and we're like, it's a feeling of betrayal.
And my generation, we lived on that 70s show.
And he's one of your favorites.
And then you come to realize that they are a regular person and they turned out to be a monster.
Um, and it just, like, breaks your heart for those girls, women, and, and then you're also, like, that feeling of betrayal, like, how could you be this person?
You were this, like, it's a weird feeling to have because it doesn't, it doesn't affect us in reality, but...
It's such a strange thing when you're like, you know, especially with the Scientology thing too.
Look, I'm not going to...
The beauty of America is your religion is your religion, right?
But it's just so much stuff comes out of Scientology and all the people that have had horror stories.
I'm blanking on her name, but the actress from...
Yeah, Rami...
Yeah, from King of Queens.
Sorry, I'm forgetting her name.
I tell you, if anybody ever wants to see something that was done in a comedic way, Boston Legal took on a case one time with the Scientology, and it It was brutal, what they did.
The old Boston legal show with James Spader and the others.
Anyway, look, I pray for healing, and this is sad, and found guilty now.
Again, justice to be served in this situation moving forward.
Yeah, we need more of it, but yeah.
Speaking of lawsuits, and you knew this was coming, an attorney representing a client in a lawsuit against an airline has been called out for using chat GPT after fictitious court cases were cited.
You knew this was coming.
Hold on.
Time out.
I'm a little lost here, Doug.
Okay.
So, versus an airline?
Yeah, undoubtedly, the client is currently suing an airline after he claimed an employee struck him in his left knee with a metal serving cart causing him to suffer severe personal injuries.
The incident was reported, reportedly happened in August 2019 on a flight from San Salvador to New York.
Mata, the client, is represented by the law firm of Livedow, Livedow, and Obermann.
Anyway, the airline filed a motion dismissed, made as attorneys opposed it, citing several court case decisions as to why the airlines should go forward.
They cited Martinez versus Delta Airlines, Zickerman versus Korean Airlines, and Vargesse versus China Southern.
Then that's when things could turn, when it was realized those cases don't exist.
Wow, that's amazing.
Yeah, in an affidavit, one of MEDA's attorneys, Stephen A. Schwartz, responded that he consulted the artificial intelligence website, ChatGPT, in order to supplement the legal research performed.
That's insane.
And did not source his work.
That is...
I mean, listen.
There's a man thinking on his toes, huh?
Yeah.
How do I win this court case?
Chat GTT, baby.
There's a man on his way to disbarment.
Hey, he had a good run, though.
He had a good run.
Hey, real quick, I got a few things here.
It is funny to me that Pat McAfee is whining that he's...
And again, there's got to be something a little weird here.
I mean, he took a pay cut from FanDuel He said he had four offers, three were lower, one was not, and one just wasn't working out.
To leave FanDuel, I'm yet to understand why he was having to leave FanDuel, unless they were dumping him, to go to ESPN. But he's complaining that people were saying he was selling out by going to ESPN, and he's all upset about it.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm with him for some of it and not all of it.
The whining is bothering me.
It's like, look, I think Pat McAfee is an absolute trailblazer in the fact that he was like, I'm a great kicker, but I'm going to quit.
I'm going to try this thing out at Barstool.
Barstool kind of worked a little bit.
It didn't work out perfectly, but it worked enough for him to get his own show, and he moved on.
Where he's coming from makes a ton of sense to me.
But to me, he's obviously in some way employed by ESPN without the show, right?
Where he's on it all the time.
And then he's done some broadcasts and whatnot.
So he has a relationship with these people to begin with.
And he realized that he could be taken care of there for years.
I get that part of it.
Yeah, because they're going to work him into college game day.
I mean, he made college game day this past year.
Right.
And the other part of it is, what he said was, I think he wants to try to make ESPN relevant again in the sense of, We don't have to do this...
People are sick of Stephen A. I mean, he'll always do numbers.
But it's the same thing over and over again.
There's people just trying to be whatever.
And Pat McAfee is such a different show.
And...
Yes, people are upset that he can't use the F word.
That's what people are mad about most.
They can get over that.
But I think the thing is, in his mind, he's like, I can bring what we do to the mainstream.
But what Pat is forgetting is that you are the mainstream now.
What you do and what Barstool does is the mainstream.
Everybody has a show, and they're still going to you.
So you are mainstream.
I just think he had security here, and he didn't feel like he had it there.
That's what I think happened.
You can't keep whining about it, though, because you don't want to lose your fan base completely, man.
I mean, you are who you are for a reason, and we love you for it.
I think Pat McAfee's a genius.
If he's going to keep complaining, he's going to lose people.
He's not going to lose me, because I think he's hilarious, and they're not going to lose a good fan.
But I don't know.
I just...
I just think he had security at ESPN and he knew that.
Yeah, I think that was it too.
And look, he's getting, I mean, unless he's rolling in for free, whatever he does on TV, which I don't think he is.
I think they're preparing him to take over Lee Corso's spot.
Absolutely.
100%.
Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, and I think it's really interesting because Pollock, I think, thought he was going to sort of move in.
Pollock's still got a place and everything else, but Pollock doesn't have the fun factor that McAfee has.
Very straight-laced.
He's pretty straight-laced for most of it.
Speaking of complaining and whining, I want to bring one thing up.
This goes back to basketball.
Did you see what Scottie Pippen said about Michael Jordan?
Yeah, I mean, Scottie Pippen...
Somebody's got to hug that dude.
Somebody's got to go up and grab him and be like, it's okay.
There's no NBA fan that thinks Scottie Pippen is a bad player.
It's non-existent.
Whatever Michael did to him in the last dance or however that went down...
Calling Michael a horrible teammate is fine.
People don't like him.
People thought Kobe was a horrible teammate, too.
There's plenty of guys that people thought were horrible teammates.
That's fine.
But calling him a horrible player and saying he wasn't a good player until I got there, my man, in 1988, was the MVP, the Defensive Player of the Year, the leading scorer, All-Star Game MVP, and took his team to the playoffs.
You gotta relax.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
It's just insane to me.
Yeah, I think this is the other issue of the whining.
Okay, Pippen, we get it.
You felt slighted and maybe a little bit hurt in the last dance stuff, but you're taking this a little too far as it goes.
Hey, I got a funny before we get in because one of the things is you brought this up earlier.
We were offline talking about finales and there was a lot of them this week.
Oh, yeah.
Secession.
We're going to get in right now.
Ted Lasso and others.
And we're going to talk about the best finales here in just a few minutes.
But I do have to get one in.
It's pretty funny.
Somebody sent me this.
It may have been my son's.
Sent me this.
It was a top ten rivalries in college football.
And just listen to this, especially when it gets to number four.
You've got to understand there's some bias here.
Number one college football robbery, Auburn, Alabama.
Number two, Army-Navy.
Number three, Ohio State-Michigan.
Number four, Georgia versus the Athens-Clarke County Jail.
LAUGHTER Okay.
I'm a dog fan.
You can see the dogs.
Come on.
I got to laugh.
That was pretty funny.
That's good.
That was pretty funny.
I don't care who you are.
That's funny.
That's good.
That's funny.
All right.
Moving on.
All right.
Hit us up.
I mean, because you've been talking about this a little bit.
We're not going to give away anything for folks out there who watch this session.
Yeah.
Listen.
Ted Lasso.
I have said this.
I've heard that...
And this is what I want to focus on here in a minute about good endings.
But I have heard that Ted Lasso came back in.
Because a lot of people have been sort of upset that the show has sort of lost its focus.
They seemingly say they got it back at the end.
Yeah.
I think...
I have a theory about it.
And I don't want to ruin anything.
So I'm not going to.
But I think most people are aware that this show is ending.
And I think a lot of people who watch the show saw that this season took the focus off of Ted Lasso a bit.
And again, this does not ruin the ending at all.
But I have a feeling that like, you know, I think they're...
My guess is they want to do a spin-off somehow.
And I think they may have focused on other characters to see if there was a bite.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Again, it wrapped up beautifully and nothing ruined.
Go watch it.
Enjoy it.
If you haven't watched the show, please do.
Because it's the one show right now that doesn't feel like a crummy laugh track sitcom, but you go almost every episode, you leave feeling like, I'm going to have a better day today.
Which is rare, because a lot of shows are just a lot of drama and depression, or it's just so funny you don't care.
This one is both.
It's hilarious, and you're like, I think I learned something today.
Okay, also before we get into some of these discussions on this, I have heard that Pauly Shore, who I thought was one of the funniest human beings around, in his little just weird acting way, is in a movie called Jury Duty, in which everybody is an actor except one person.
I heard about this.
The one I saw was with James Marsden, I think his name is, who played Cyclops in the X-Men.
Apparently the show's amazing.
I haven't watched it.
Yeah, Netflix.
I've heard of this at all.
Alright, let's dig into some here as we go forward.
Thinking about ones we can talk about.
And I'll start us off with one that I think was a great season series finale, ending up all together.
And I'll throw out the first one, Miami Vice.
The original TV show, Miami Vice.
It lost its way in a few of the last, I think it lasted five seasons, six seasons.
The last season and a half was sort of, it lost its way, about like, you know, some people were saying Ted Lasso, but the final episode was classic.
And we're going to put in, here for you folks, I want you to hear the last couple of minutes of the Miami Vice season finale.
Take a listen.
All right.
The way Tubbs and Crockett, they're interacted, you know, and bringing back the whole thing.
And for those of you who watched the series before, you know that it touched back to the very first episode and brought it back.
So for me, you know, my younger days, I have to say, you know, from a season finale standpoint, one of my top five has to be Miami Vice.
All right.
Jane?
Okay, well, I'm going to hit you with one that may not be a favorite.
Okay.
But it is arguably the most memorable ending in television history.
And that is The Sobranos.
Yes.
Weird ending.
I was too young to have watched it the first time when it came out.
And, I mean, everyone knew the ending.
Your mom, your mother, your brother, your aunt, your uncle, your grandma knew the ending.
Even if they didn't watch the show.
And I didn't think about it the whole time I was watching it when I was late high school or early college.
I don't remember what time.
But when it happened, I was like, I hate you.
I hate you so much.
Why would you do this to us?
But the more I think about it and the more time goes on, There's really not a good way to end a show.
Realistically, there are going to be always 50% people angry and the other 50% are satisfied.
And he just said, and I'm blanking out on his name right now, the director and writer.
David Chase.
Thank you.
He just said, I'm going to do this and I don't really care how people react because I know we're going to get a crazy reaction.
Wasn't there a journey song playing in the background?
It is.
Don't Stop Believin' is playing the whole time.
Yeah.
And I think the last episode, I believe it's called Made in America.
Right.
And it is...
Listen, to me, The Sopranos is the greatest show I've ever watched.
I watch it all...
I still just watch episodes.
I think it's amazing.
I know I'm from New Jersey.
I'm probably a little biased.
I think the Mafia is extremely interesting.
Oh, I do too.
The fact that the way that show ended, I think that is one of the most memorable in history.
That's my number one.
We can do five each.
Yeah, we can probably do that five each.
Okay, I'm going to go ahead and get you.
Since you said that was your number one, Miami Vice, I was not in random order.
If we want to do a number one for me, Number one for me has got to be M.A.S.H. Oh yeah, that is a great choice.
M.A.S.H. is a perfect one.
I was a junior in high school, a senior in high school.
Let me go back.
Yeah, because it was 80, the 407s, they finished up, and I remember that up until recently it was the largest audience ever.
Yeah.
For a show.
And it was a two-hour one.
It had everything that, I mean, it killed you at the end.
And with the goodbye, with the rocks on the thing, and, you know, not wanting to say goodbye, and he wrote goodbye.
And, I mean, look, if you haven't watched M.A.S.H., you need to go back and watch, you know, especially if you're younger, go to wherever you can get it, watch M.A.S.H., More interesting commentary on war.
It took sort of a Vietnam bent on the Korean conflict, but in the end, very, very good.
Goodbye, farewell, and amen.
MASH, absolutely my number one.
Next.
Okay, so my number two is Breaking Bad.
That would be my son.
I bet that would be my Cameron's.
Breaking Bad...
Ends to me perfectly.
If you haven't seen it, just go away.
Because I'm going to ruin the ending for you.
No, I'm just kidding.
But it ends...
The arc of Walter White is so absurd.
It's so...
A man who just kind of lived his day-to-day life, a teacher...
A fairly good person who loses all control of his innermost desire, which is just to dominate everything.
And to have control of everything.
And not being able to control the fact that he could die from cancer.
Right?
Because that is the beginning of shows that he has cancer and he has to...
ends up selling meth.
That's it.
He gets cancer, needs medical...
pays medical bills, sells meth because he's a chemist.
And a good one at that.
That's something he can control.
And the way that show ends, where he basically ends in control, he decides the end.
It's so perfect.
And again, Vince Gilligan...
Is an absolute genius.
And I know I didn't watch Better Call Saul.
I heard that ending's beautiful too.
So that's not going to be on my list.
But I just think that show is amazing from start to finish.
And it ended the way maybe not everybody wanted, but we kind of knew that was how it was coming.
And they didn't disappoint me.
Yeah.
I'm going to have to admit I've watched parts of Breaking Bad.
I've never watched the series.
And I'll have to be frank with you as well.
Sopranos as well.
Right.
And so I'm going to have to get both.
I agree.
My sons who chime in on these things both have said Breaking Bad was one.
All right.
My number, my third one in this, Park and Rec.
Yes, Doug.
Yes!
I mean, if you got...
Okay, I know there's folks out there who like The Office, they like this, but Park and Rec for me is the 30-minute show that...
It's a...
I guess my sweet tooth, whatever you want to call it.
It's one I love to go to.
But the ending for that could have ended so many different ways.
Absolutely.
And the way they ended it, showing us flash forward, and then...
I think for me, the one last ride episode on Park and Rec was, to me, it's the way life is.
And they ended with their going on.
They sort of said, here's what is going to happen after we move on.
And, you know, it's just that Yeah, I guess realism to me.
You know, her and, you know, Ron Swanson and it just, to me, it makes my top five simply because I can watch it.
I can see it.
I'll still get emotional.
I'll still laugh.
And, you know, it just, to me, how many times in life do we all go through moments with people we work with, people we know, that they leave or we leave?
And, you know, and I've had that experience with my congressional office.
I've had that experience with church.
I've had that experience with others and everything else.
So it's, for me, it tugs at the heart because I know what they're going through.
And so for me, gotta be Park and Rec, one last ride.
Yeah, that would be in my top five.
I can't believe that skipped my mind because I loved it so much.
Parks and Rec does something, again, something like Ted Lasso in the sense where you just feel good coming away from it usually.
Talk about every moment is a laugh.
Even the saddest moments are a laugh.
And it's...
It's such a simple idea.
It's obviously a workplace comedy, perfect.
It's very similar to The Office.
But the way they ended it was perfect.
I was going to bring up The Office, but I felt like that was unfair only because they essentially had two endings.
Because you have the actual finale and everything, but Michael leaving is the finale.
In the seventh season.
There's two more seasons, but that show ended when he ended.
We'll put the office in the...
Because I've got a few what I call honorable mentions.
We'll put that one in the honorable mention.
Alright, I'm going to give you my number three.
My number three is Boardwalk Empire.
Oh, wow.
Now, I know not everybody loved the ending of this show.
But I don't think it had a way to end gracefully.
Because it's a show that is steeped in some reality and realism of the fact that it was the time of Al Capone and the beginning of the modern day mafia packed into a man in Atlantic City who runs the city.
And they fast forward and they show you...
I just love the history of that show.
But really, truly amazing is...
And again, if you didn't see it, I'm not going to spoil it for you, but it ends in the sense of something I kind of didn't totally see coming, which I thought was kind of fun.
But I was like, maybe that is, like, when there's someone in the episodes in that season, I'm like, oh, maybe that is him.
I'm not sure, blah, blah, blah.
And when you find out it is who it is, you're like, oh, okay, that's cool.
It's a great way to end it.
So I thought Bulwark Empire, it's one of those shows I think that if everyone gets a chance to watch, is one of the most spectacular shows.
Steve Buscemi, I mean, a literal genius in this show.
That's how good of an actor he is.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, yeah, not one that I watched that much, so I'll take yours.
Number four for me, West Wing.
You've heard me talk about West Wing on this show many, many, many, many times.
I think it's almost to be required.
And I know for you conservatives out there who don't want to watch West Wing, shut up and watch it.
Okay?
It's good.
If you're too intimidated by a more liberal persuasion of what they were saying, then use it to sharpen your excuses, sharpen your topics, however you want to do it, for your argument for those that you meet in everyday life.
West Wing, As someone who's been in D.C., who's worked with the White House, who's been in the Oval Office, who's been working with the President, who's been all around that, most of it was spot on, dead on, taken from writers and stuff who had been in the White House.
Aaron Sorkin can't beat him.
I'm not a fan of his politics, but I'm a fan of his writing.
But the show was great, and I don't know how I wanted it to end.
But it came full circle.
If you remember, you know, with Josh and all of them coming back into the White House as if...
And Sam Seaborn, who is Rob Lowe, who is just an amazing actor.
The man never ages.
You know, had a great line in the very last one.
The episode's called Tomorrow.
And he said that, you know, it seems like we never left.
And it's just neat.
And then with Bartlett and Miss Bartlett flying back to New Hampshire, and she said, what's next?
He says, tomorrow.
And again, part of the season ending for West Wing was Leo dying.
And Leo, of course, the actor, actually died in real life.
And they actually struggled with that in shooting the final episodes.
So it's all good.
West Wing, again, top five for me.
Number four for the fourth one for me as we go fourth.
All right.
I'm going to give you my fourth, and this one is way off the radar for any of our viewers, I'm assuming.
But there's a little show that was on Nickelodeon called Avatar.
It is one of the most popular cartoons of all time.
And adults who don't even like that style of art are enthralled by it.
And it's like four seasons.
And it's a kid's show.
It's absurd.
My brother kept begging me to watch it.
I said, I don't want to watch a kid's show.
I don't want to watch a kid's show.
I don't want to watch a kid's show.
And he's like, you just missed it, because I just missed it when I got to a certain age, right?
And my brother's a year younger than me, but he watched it.
And when it came out and they watched it again, he begged me, begged me, I said, no, I'm not watching it.
The show is so heartwarming, and I think every kid should watch the show, and I think even adults should watch it too.
But it has so many moments in it.
And it so perfectly ends.
Nothing is ever...
And because it's a good show, it has to wrap up Perfectly, right?
Everybody needs to come out.
It is such a beautiful ending, and again, I know this is not everyone's cup of tea, but I just recommended on the idea of, like, if you ever want to talk about a show of values, this is one of them, ironically, for a kid's show.
It is one of my favorite endings, and just a perfectly good four seasons, in and out, and I think everybody should watch it.
That's all.
I had to add that one in there.
Okay, alright.
My fifth one is a duel.
I sort of had to go cross over here a little bit.
Because interestingly enough, the two shows are intertwined.
And so I think you're going to understand why I say what I say.
Season finales, series finales, Cheers and Frasier.
Oof, okay.
Of course, there's a lot of people who feel like the Cheers episode is the absolute, you know, one for the road is the absolute best it's ever been.
The bar, everybody knows your name.
I love that ending.
I mean, it's just amazing.
And again, to me, an ending needs to grip you.
An ending needs to be the cross between You're growing up, getting married, leaving your family, or going to the military, going on deployment, or attending a funeral and smiling at the end.
You know?
It needs to just rip you.
And I think for the ones that I've named, you know, they did that to me.
But for Cheers and Frasier both, you know, having those sort of closure kind of episodes.
And again, you know, Again, a lot of people weren't upset about it, and it was an interesting thing, but again, he closed up shop, and he's the last patron.
I love this.
I've hit the line, he said.
In fact, what we're going to do, just let you listen to the last minute here.
See what I mean?
I love it.
He's closing up the shop.
Last patron stops by for a nightcap and the owner turns him down, delivering the series last line.
Sorry, we're closed.
Turning off lots, he walks into the back room where viewers saw him for the first time so many years ago.
That's Sam.
I mean, and then with Frazier, sort of the same, you know, with Frazier, you know, coming to grips and trying to move on to a new life.
So, anyway, that's my five.
What's your last one?
Okay.
What do you think about Frazier?
Well, first of all, I didn't get into Frazier, but Cheers, It's something I got into right after I... Well, I decided to drop out of art school.
Yeah, that's right, people.
I'm an art school dropout.
But I got really attached to it emotionally for whatever reason.
And it is one of those shows.
But that couldn't have been done better.
A show that you love, and yeah, sure, some of the later seasons aren't as funny as the beginning seasons.
Whatever.
You can complain about anything you want.
People love to complain.
But it was such a perfect ending.
To such a brilliantly written, perfectly done show where you're just like, that's my family, you know?
It's one of those things.
Like, I'm part of that.
I'm part of the bar.
Yeah, I agree.
I didn't get into Frasier, and maybe one day I will, but yeah, I love that one.
He's coming back, by the way.
Yeah, everything's coming back, Doug.
We're screwed.
Switch is in trouble.
Alright, what's your last one?
Alright.
Again, guys, if you guys don't know this by now, I love mob and whatever, stuff like that.
The show Peaky Blinders.
Okay.
If you've never watched it, Cillian Murphy is a British gangster.
Who fought in World War I and is back and he's taken over his part of Birmingham or whatever.
And this whole show is amazing.
If you get a chance, please watch it.
It's unbelievable.
And he has ties with Winston Churchill.
It's pretty cool.
But the ending of this show...
Tried to throw you a bit for a loop and gave you something like...
With a show like this, it's like, oh, that person either has to die or fade to black, Sopranos, whatever.
They left with this man on top.
They left with a gangster on top.
Look, you might not see it that other people might not see it, but they basically were like, this man will not die.
No matter what you do, no matter what you try to do, this man will not die.
And it's just so fascinating.
It's a perfect ending.
And I may have ruined it for some people, but really I haven't because you have no idea what's going to happen at the end.
And it's honestly just a perfect ending.
Doug, I know you had some honorable mentions.
Yes.
But can I give the ones that I – there are some that I am just furious with.
Yeah.
Real quick, I'm just going to touch on this.
There's a little show, I think you guys may have heard of it, called Game of Thrones.
Yep.
That show was perfect for five seasons.
Maybe even six.
Six seasons, I apologize.
Six perfect seasons.
And the seventh season, it was a little wonky, but they'll hang in there.
And then they made us wait, like, two and a half, three years for the last season, whatever it was.
These monsters put out the worst final season in the history of television.
They basically heat on our face and told us it was raining.
And it's going to be great.
It's going to be beautiful, blah, blah, blah.
That show, to everybody who watched it the way we did and through it all...
Don't talk about it anymore because of how bad it is.
One of the greatest shows in the history of television isn't talked about because of how bad the ending is.
That is how you know you screwed up.
The writers of that show, at the end, before the show ended, got a movie deal with Star Wars.
And because the show ended so badly, they lost their deal with Star Wars.
That's how bad the last season of Game of Thrones was.
That's all I have to say.
Doug, the floor is yours.
Yeah, there's a lot out there that you just sort of said, like, why did...
I mean, that was just a dumb ending.
And we may come back at one point and do a bad ending episode as well.
Real quickly, as we go here, folks, you've been listening.
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Tell us what your favorites are.
Endings and why.
If you agree with us, disagree with us, think we're awful, you know, whatever.
Or if you have some bad ones, let us know about that.
But before we get out of here, we've got to give some honorable mentions here.
Let's name them off pretty fast.
I think we've already put one in the office, definitely.
I think Friends has to go into honorable mention.
100%.
You know, we've got also Mad Men.
Oh, my.
Doug, I have to retract.
I forgot about Mad Men.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, Madman.
It's tied for sixth.
It's tied.
Sorry.
It's tied.
Got Madman.
A lot of people who like this, I never watch that much.
The Wire.
Oh, The Wire is a great ending.
Oh, it really does.
That's another banger.
Yeah, there's an old movie called the TV show The Shield as well.
It was basically a bad cop, but it was a ending.
Friday Night Lights.
Yes.
I really like that one.
The Bob Newhart, the second time.
Okay.
Yeah.
The Bob Newhart show is classic for anybody.
It wakes up at the end.
It's just fun.
So just something like that that you go for.
Some last too long to really end.
I think there's some great TV shows out there that I really enjoyed watching, but they went so long that I didn't care about the ending because I'd already lost the show.
And that was like E.R., Ah, yes.
Another one, yeah.
The original ER. Yeah, I mean, the first six years, I mean, I watched, I mean, everybody, it was must-sake at our house.
And we don't do this.
We were much younger, had one child.
I mean, it was leasing up.
It was at 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock, whenever the show was.
I could hear the music of ER. And it was like, okay, I'm geared up.
I won't go to sleep.
I want to watch this.
And then it just, it lost me over time.
And, um...
I'll throw in one that I thought was pretty good.
They did a good ending.
We mentioned this earlier in a different context, but I thought they tied the ranch together pretty good as well.
Yeah, especially the way that got...
I didn't finish it, but I heard it went well.
Yeah, it got in.
But they had to...
You know, Doug, there is one more.
What's that?
The whole thing is based off the ending, and it's How I Met Your Mother.
Oh my goodness.
They dragged us through that damn show for nothing.
They dragged us through.
Cameron was really big into that.
A lot of us were.
It wasn't that great of a show, but you were sucked in for whatever reason.
And Just the way that dragged out at the end, and then it ended up being...
Oh, man.
I would love to get Cameron's opinion on how stupid that ending was.
Anyway, that's fine.
All right, Bo.
Call us, let us know.
We'll put you on.
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