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Feb. 4, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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The Dead Return, Brady Retires Again, Zoo animals run amuck and more!
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Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
How is it?
The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
I could not believe my ears.
In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Welcome back to the Doug Collins Podcast.
It is, yes it is, it is Friday reality day.
It's Friday check-in.
It's the best of, it's the worst of, it's whatever we come up with.
James and I figured it out a long time ago that we're going to come up with what we have found to be the more interesting, maybe off-the-wall topics, sometimes serious, sometimes not serious, topics as we get into it today.
James, one, welcome back to Friday.
We made it again to Friday, so it's good to be a part of that.
Was up in your old stomping grounds this week a little bit, doing some Fox outnumbered and doing some things, and picked up the New York Post.
And I have to say, the New York Post is probably the...
You know, I'm not going to say it's the epitome of the best journalism in the world, but where else do you get page six?
Where else do you get all these stories?
And occasionally thrown in a real story every once in a while.
I mean, I'm telling you, it's just the greatest thing in the world.
The New York Post has its moments.
And yeah, the page six, the big explosion page is usually the Mets losing or something like that.
Well, also they have the best, frankly, they have the best front pages.
Yes, for sure.
For sure.
I mean, they can come up with some of the best front pages.
And yesterday, I guess it was when I picked one of these up, the front page was a big picture of, and if you're watching us here on Rumble or wherever else you can get to, you can see it's the It's Mine with the Hunter Biden.
They're a face in it.
It was pretty wild.
But I did have, you know, to start off this sort of off-the-wall Friday, I had to start off with this story.
And it was return, their headline was Return Earned to Cinder.
And what has happened here is a special delivery of something, but a Brooklyn-based indie rocker got a package of cremated human remains belonging to a stranger in the mail and was stunned when the funeral home that sent them initially told them it wasn't their problem.
This guy named Hamilton Lethauser, 44, frontman for the popular indie punk band The Waltman, was gosmacked Tuesday when he opened the cardboard container and found the ashes inside in another plain cardboard box.
It was just kind of shocking.
The remains were marked.
Now get this, James.
The remains were marked October 7th, 2017. So those have been floating around?
For six, seven years?
Is that what the joke was?
It had been shipped to the current resident of the studio apartment out in East Williamsburg or wherever this is at.
Anyway, he tried to call the funeral home to straighten things out, and the owner was extremely unhelpful.
He said something like, it's your problem now, and actually hung up on me.
But before he hung up, the alleged asshole, I love how they did this, let it slip that after no one came to claim the remains, he tried to ship them to a man named Robbie, or possibly Ronnie, who may have lived at the address in 2017. That's crazy!
Of course, though, it was a musician that got sent to you, an indie rocker, whatever the hell they want to call it.
Yeah, the Rose Hill Crematorium in Linden, New Jersey, where a rep told the Post that their mains had been...
Well, there you go.
It's a guy from New Jersey.
It's Linden, New Jersey.
They're just sending it out wherever they can.
But the funeral home, this is pretty cool.
So the funeral home now is going to pick up the remains.
Within hours of the post-inquiry, Newman sent a worker to the rocker's apartment to retreat.
I love now how this guy went from just sort of a barely known musician to now he's a rocker.
I love how they describe this.
This is how you become famous now.
You just have to accidentally get someone's dead family member.
Yeah.
There was no address listed for the dead man's full name or anything.
The city health department didn't immediately return our inquiry as to how do you get strangers' ashes in the mail.
That's a...
This is a mob hit come to life.
They took care of the guy and now they're labeling it differently.
They're like, oh, just send it to whoever.
Another issue that I thought was pretty interesting, you know, everybody talks about crime in New York and the issues going on.
They did a breakdown that 27% of the shootings occur in six precincts.
Is that right?
Now, you being from up in that part of the world, you probably would understand it.
Four of the precincts are in the Bronx.
Yeah.
Woodlawn, Wakefield, Williams Bridge, and Baychester.
So this is something you know if you're from the area or you're Frank.
Because a lot of my friends went to school in the Bronx.
One of my best friends actually went to school in Manhattan College, which is in the Bronx, which is hilarious every time I say it.
Manhattan College in the Bronx.
And his area was not terrible, but there's also Fordham in the Bronx.
And if you go to Fordham, everyone who goes to Fordham, I had a couple friends who went there, some of my best friends, you know that there is a small radius you can go to around the building.
You can go to a couple bars and then you gotta go back inside.
If you're going to stay in the Bronx.
Because if you don't, you will get mugged, stabbed, or shot.
Those are the rules of going to Florida.
Well, that is it.
Like I said, they had the four up there.
You see Brooklyn.
It also had Grand Concourse as well.
So it's four in Grand Concourse.
Then, let's see here.
Oh yeah, Port Morris, Claremont.
And then they had, there's two in Brooklyn.
Brooklyn.
Brownsville Ocean Hill and East New York Cypress Hills in Brooklyn.
Yeah, Brownsville.
That's a tough neighborhood.
Yeah, that's all making sense.
Six of the precincts account for 27% of the...
That's pretty insane when you say it out loud, but...
In New York City.
27%.
That's a ton.
As we go on.
But again, this is just, you know, the ramblings of, you know, the world of the New York Post.
So, I mean, it is just, I thought we'd start off there.
I mean, again, you know, what they used to say was in my day when it was, you know, it's going to be a bad day when you show up for work and saw the 60 Minutes truck outside your apartment, you know, outside your business.
You know, now it is, you know, you show up at your doorstep and you get ashes delivered to you.
So it's like, you know.
Yeah, that's the new, yes, that's the new, it's going to be a bad day.
Yeah, new bad day.
Speaking of bad days, what is going on in Dallas with the zoo down there?
Doug, I don't know what, I really don't know what is happening in the Dallas Zoo other than there's a conspiracy theory to take it down from the inside.
Are the animals pulling a prison break here?
The animals are taking down the system, man.
It's one of the strangest, funniest, and also saddest things.
I must have been about a month ago, maybe?
A little less.
Again, now that I'm in Dallas, I try to follow things that are about Dallas and try to learn what's going on.
And it just says, it was a joking page that said, be careful, there's a clouded leopard probably in your neighborhood.
And it just said the Dallas Zoo couldn't find a clouded leopard.
Now, it happened to be in the zoo still, but it got lost, which means it was released in some way, shape, or form.
Now, this cat is probably only 30 or 40 pounds, and it's not hurting anybody, even though we all have cats, and a 12-pound cat can piss you off just as much as it's as terrifying as a pit bull sometimes.
But that's not the point.
The point is this thing went missing.
And then a little while later, a cage was opened.
A monkey cage was opened.
Nothing was taken, but a cage was opened.
Then a little while later, they find a dead vulture.
One that was a rare species and had unfortunately kind of brought his species back to life.
And then a little while later, two tamarins, those are monkeys, were stolen from the Dallas Zoo.
What the hell is going on?
Didn't I read a report, James, that they may have arrested two people on that one?
Yes.
They read a photo of the guy.
They were just walking.
I don't know.
It's almost like they're like, we don't care what you do, Dallas Zoo.
What are you going to do?
We took your monkeys.
It's such a strange thing.
What are you going after the zoo for?
It's not like a big...
Someone was explaining, is it for animal trafficking?
And they're like, no, you don't need them.
We have those by the billions.
They don't need to steal them and go through all the effort of breaking into the Dallas Zoo.
I don't know who the article is, but they were saying that they just think somebody is messing with the Dallas Zoo, which is so much funnier There's just somebody out to get...
Like, somebody at the Dallas Zoo pissed somebody off so much that they are now messing with everything at the Dallas Zoo.
But it sounds like this could be almost internal, don't you?
I mean, I know you said about internal, but like an employee or somebody who has...
Absolutely.
Because you just can't get into the zoo.
I was going to say, I've been there twice.
I'm not saying it's impossible to get in, but...
It's not somewhere you can just walk around and do whatever you want.
It's still a zoo.
My question is, do they not have anybody there at night?
I mean, because I read an article about this, and you pointed out, and I'd heard some stories about this, but they said, well, we're upping our camera capabilities.
It's like, well, why don't you up people capabilities, you know?
You know, this is the problem when people are talking about how come you guys don't have salt trucks, and why is everyone slipping and sliding across Dallas the last few days?
And it's just they're not prepared.
This is something I'm finding out about Dallas.
They are not prepared for anything.
Even the playoffs.
Yes.
Oh, man.
I will be adding a kick snare to that, my friend.
It's so funny, though.
I don't want to bash on the city I'm in, but it's just funny.
I'm reading the comment sections of all this stuff, and this is talking about the weather, and they're like, you know, this isn't the first time we have snow in our lives.
They just don't want to do anything.
You know what they do, apparently?
They pour salt water on the ground, which makes it worse.
The brine.
I don't know.
Apparently that's what some of the trucks are doing.
That's ridiculous.
But back to the Dallas Zoo, I just, one, they probably, you know what, they're probably just like, maybe it's a system of like, who's going to go after the Dalazoo?
Well, you know what, somebody went after it for about a month, and you guys couldn't do anything about it for a month.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and it's...
I mean, from what we can gather, they're not finished yet.
I mean, we don't know that...
No.
I'm sure in, like, a couple days I'm going to hear two chimpanzees escaped with one of the zookeepers.
Oh, this is...
I mean, this is beginning...
This is beginning to be a, I mean, this could be a saga of the Dallas Zoo.
The saga of the Dallas Zoo.
Well, today a lion walked out the front door.
We don't know how he got there, but hey, folks, I would be cautious if I was living near the zoo.
When they get really bad, though, James, is when a snake house starts living out.
Don't even.
Don't even.
I don't live close enough for it to affect me, but I did see what happened to Florida when somebody released one python the last 40 years, 25 years.
They got more.
Oh yeah.
They literally pay people to kill them up there, so...
You never know.
It's like introducing a species, right?
Oh, yeah.
The Everglades right now, pythons and stuff, that's a real problem.
And you're talking about invasive species.
But I saw an article the other day talking about snakes, which I'm not a big fan of, but of snakes, that there was a...
I think it was like a 39-foot python in Brazil.
39 feet!
Well, maybe this is...
This is, we were speaking about, you know, we talk about Joe Rogan's podcast a couple times on this show.
Oh, yeah.
And they were talking to an expert, and he says that there are probably, okay, because you say 39 feet.
I'm, I don't know if this is the same, this is recently just found?
Yes.
Okay, because he says he believes there's 30 footers out there, so maybe this must be very recent.
But there was a time where, apparently, a pilot, a decorated pilot in the army, it's not American, maybe they were Swiss, I don't want to get it wrong, and a couple of others were flying over, I believe it was Africa?
Where there aren't the Congo.
Where there aren't really any snakes.
Nothing big.
And apparently there was something so big that they flew down to it and it attacked the helicopter.
And apparently it was about 50 feet long.
Oh wow.
I messed up.
It's 33 feet.
Right.
That's still 33 feet.
That's a hole.
I think as well it was bigger than that.
So I mean it's like they're picking these things up with cranes.
Yeah, listen, man, we've all seen Anaconda.
Nobody wants that.
It's a terrifying idea, and I know that it's not going to happen, but, like, you know, Florida has enough.
If they linked all the snakes together, they could just wrap around the state and cut it off, and it can float out towards Cuba.
Well, that's pretty wild.
I mean, just last year, and just last year, there was a 23-footer.
I mean, so, look, you know, if you're in the Dallas area, all we'll say is this.
For all of our listeners in the Salem world around Dallas— If you're living near the zoo, might be a good time to either invest in, you know, a watchdog, some other stuff, because you might be getting more animals than you know what's out there.
Yeah, if you invest in a watchdog, no, you need to invest in a sonar tracking, maybe a flamethrower just in case.
Yeah, I just want to know they're out there.
Nothing's coming to my door.
Also, by the way, on a quick note, though, you found an article where there was a 30-year-old dog?
Yeah, I saw this the other day.
Doug, a 30-year-old dog.
30. Wow.
The dog is in Portugal.
Now, apparently, like, a few days ago, I mean, maybe a week ago, somebody had mentioned that their dog was the oldest dog.
It was like 25 years old or something.
It was this little monster chihuahua.
And I'm not going to mince words.
Chihuahuas are the worst animal that's ever existed.
And they're awful.
And I hate them.
But this dog just looks like a little chubby, brown, happy, you know, like, it looks like a Chesapeake Bay Retriever, if anyone's ever seen one of those.
But it's a little heavier.
But 30 years old?
30?
Wow.
They're...
People I know don't make it to 30, and there's dogs.
Oh, yeah.
You know, like, I mean, that's a...
Like, when I think about that achievement, like, I've seen...
Like, think about your friend's 16-year-old dog that's laboring to get from the bedroom to the door, and he goes, hey, man, you know, it's time.
My life is ending.
This dog is standing.
It's just sitting up at 30 years old, just living.
You're just going at it.
Talk about good genes.
My God.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you took the old adage of seven-year dog life, that's 210. Yeah, that dog is like a wizard.
He's just...
Keeps on going.
Well, as we move away from the Dallas Zoo and we move away from our stories of people getting...
You know, ashes sent to them, and also the Dallas Zoo can't keep their stuff inside.
We move to the final segment today, I think we're going to take into it.
And it is also, again, New York Post played this out very well, if you're looking at it.
It says, we miss you, Tommy.
And this is the retirement of Tom Brady for the second time.
Not ironically, I think he probably planned this.
It came on the same day he retired last year.
Oh, weird.
Who would have thought?
Tom Brady.
Yeah, sorry.
But, look, the Post has had some incredible front prages on, you know, Tom Brady over the years and some good, some bad.
I mean, I was going back through some of these, James, and looking at it, and frankly, I'd almost forgotten about Deflategate.
Oh, of course.
And the balls and then going bye-bye Brady and all this.
Anyway, Tom Brady retired.
I think he will retire this year.
I think probably in...
Look, I'm not going to get into anybody else's business for that matter, but you wonder if he really, at the end of this year, thought, wow, I maybe should have done it.
Yeah, every month so.
But now he is.
The rumor, again, he's got a 10-year already signed contract with Fox.
I mean, $375 million or something like that.
The show you this is interesting.
He's the greatest quarterback of all time.
I mean, player, you know, and that goes.
But he made like $324 million playing football.
He's going to make $375 million.
And that was total in his football career, 20-something years.
He's going to make a 10-year period, $375 million, sitting in a booth with Fox, and he's never been in the booth before.
I mean, this is like, okay...
But don't you just know Greg Olson's like saying, really, man?
Yeah.
Well, first of all, Greg Olson got his shot on the big stage and he blew it.
That whole Monday Night Football thing was a disaster.
But Greg Olson's fine.
He's actually from my neck of the woods.
We used to get our tails handed to us in football by them.
I think it was Wayne or Northern Highlands.
I don't know.
But...
This is what I think is going to happen, because Tom Brady said he's not rushing to the booth, right?
He wants to spend time with his kids and all the other lies he's telling us.
Yeah, I think he'll go, because he can take a gap here.
I mean, because it's open to whenever he wants to come.
Isn't that crazy?
How would you like to have a $10 million contract?
Somebody calls me up and be like, hey, anytime you want to show up, here's $365 million for 10 years.
You're like, okay, cool.
I'll see you in a couple years.
I'm going to take some time off.
That's like winning the lottery and then saying, why don't you just hold my ticket for a couple of months?
No, it's interesting in the sense of where he's going to go.
The rumor is that he did it now again.
I think he timed it as well.
I thought it was pretty funny that Gronk tweeted at him and said, look, I said everything last year, man.
Hey, welcome back to retirement.
But the rumor is that he'll probably have a cameo during the Fox Super Bowl season.
Yeah, he'll probably have something going on.
Yeah, we'll see how that works out.
But it got us to thinking.
You know, when you think about Brady's retirement, you think about retirements, you know, retirements that make, you know, headlines are a difference.
And, you know, you think about that in times because it seems like every year here we're talking about retirements.
I mean, you know, you got Aaron Rodgers is still there.
I heard an interesting reason why Aaron Rodgers will come back.
You want to hear it?
Yeah, go for it.
Aaron Rodgers is going to come back at least one more year because he doesn't want to retire and be in the same Hall of Fame class as Tom Brady.
Ooh, I like that.
I like that a lot.
You know, listen, listen, we talk about, and this is not to diminish anything, I don't, but...
If you're in the same Hall of Fame class as Tom Brady, and they're talking about seven championships and the will to win, and then they're like, and also that other guy who's Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers, he's got one or two.
One ring by accident.
One ring, yeah.
And look, I don't want to hate on Aaron for a little bit, but it is interesting to me how the media picks out, and we're diverting a little bit from the topic, but how the media will pick out a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers or like some others and say, oh, they're a Hall of Fame.
Everybody's talking about Russell Wilson being Hall of Fame.
I don't think Russell Wilson's a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Listen, Russell Wilson is one touchdown away from becoming a Hall of Famer.
You think about it that way.
If Russell Wilson doesn't throw that ball, he's a two-time champion.
In his first few years, he's a Hall of Famer.
The reason Aaron Rodgers is a Hall of Famer is because he's the greatest thing I've ever seen next to Patrick Mahomes throwing a football.
And we can all see it with the eye test.
You don't need to But one championship and a bunch of big losses.
Anyway, you need to turn this into a sports show, but you understand.
It's what it is.
So we came up with the idea to do our five biggest retirement announcements.
When we were thinking about it, it was just like, My first...
Alright, why don't we go one and one each time?
And they can be the same, that's fine.
But one of my first...
I won't go in any order.
This is not in any significant order.
But one of them is Michael Jordan's first retirement.
Now, I wasn't around for it, but I was a child.
I was born.
But the reason I bring it up is because he was only in the league for nine years at that point.
Which is, the greatest player on the planet retires after about 10 seasons.
Yeah, I can, you know, that was a surprise, especially.
And then, you know, the whole, I'm going to play basketball and then come back to basketball.
I mean, it was a, look, I mean, that's a good one.
And I can, you know, because the shock value of it at the time, because I mean, remember at the time you still had magic and you still had bird and you still had, you know, had just recently gone off stage and they played 14, 15, 16 years.
Right.
And he just won his third championship.
Exactly.
And he's like, I don't have anything else to do.
And he's saying, I'm leaving.
He's like, I'm out of here.
I've got one for you from a just pure shock value.
And it sort of set the tenor for some of the others that I'm going to talk about.
And that was Andrew Luck.
Doug, that is my next one.
That is the craziest retirement announcement I can remember as far as, like, you said shock value.
Yep.
It is.
I mean, because you think about it.
Here was a guy that, again, had that early, you know, Hall of Fame, you know, swagger, so to speak.
I mean, he, you know, even if he had good wins, bad losses, I mean, it was always come back, well, Andrew Luck is still this, you know, all-world stud, okay?
And then to just walk away from it.
And then now, what was it, three or four years, he just started talking about it a little bit.
Yeah, and he's barely talking.
He really didn't talk about it.
So you really begin to wonder.
I think one of the things that will come out eventually more, because he's alluded to it a little bit, was just the pressure.
Absolutely.
And injuries.
And I think, you know, look, for some, they just don't want to continue to do that, and also with the risk of injury.
So, you know, that was one for me that Andrew Luck, and it set the stage for a few others that I'll book up on the list here in a minute.
So what was your next one?
Um, so one of them, and this is not, this is just a, uh, Macaulay Culkin retiring at 14. The kid had, I know this is silly, but you think about the fact that that man, that kid was probably the most famous child actor at the time.
And in like two years after he's done with whatever weird stuff, he just left.
He just disappeared.
He's like, I'm done, whatever.
I'm not going to...
He maybe did one or two other things his entire time.
He's still rich as can be, living the dream, but then disappeared.
And I know that he went into the crazy...
He lived a crazy life, but I find it almost...
I almost find it impressive that someone can just walk away from all that, even at 14. Because you don't know what you're doing at 14. He didn't know what he was doing when he was making three of the most famous movies of all time.
Oh, yeah.
You know?
You wonder how many of those child actors wish that they had walked away.
Oh my God, tell me about it.
There's only so many that actually did it and then stayed with it.
And really, one I can think of who you talk about went through just the ringer was Robert Downey Jr., Oh my god.
It took going literally, you know, what's the old thing?
You know, he went to hell and back, you know, to get back to where he was.
You see the Brat Pack kids.
You know, Rob Lowe is about the only one who survived that.
And I heard him do a full story about how he was a straight up alcoholic and barely made it.
Oh yeah, and now to look at him, I mean, the man doesn't age.
I mean, it's pretty amazing.
Yeah, Rob Lowe pisses me off.
It's ridiculous that he looks that good at that age.
But you know what, Doug?
Maybe one day we'll do a redemption, best redemptions, because Robert Downey Jr., you want to put somebody on a list of best redemptions.
That guy went from making the Brat Pack era...
You're disappearing and going to jail, and then coming back and being part of the biggest movie, the head of the biggest movie franchise in the history.
And really a good actor, you know, at the time of the movie.
Yeah.
It is.
All right, moving on.
Here's another one, and again, this one predates you and I both, but I think it set the standard for what we all sort of look at is the sort of gold standard of an athlete, and it's also a mix with, tinged with a little bit of sadness, and that's Lou Gehrig.
Oof.
Doug, that's a good one.
I mean, retiring out, you know, I'm the luckiest man in the world.
Yankee Stadium, I mean, you know, one of the greatest Yankees of all time, struck down by, you know, this sickness that we know now as ALS. And, you know, just an interesting, I mean, to me, that one was one growing up because I remember, you know, reading and watching the old movie, A Pride of the Yankees and all that kind of stuff.
So for me, Lou Gehrig would be one that I would have to say, you know, not necessarily from a shot bag, but he's always looked at as, this is class.
This is in the face of adversity.
Here's a retirement and here's somebody going out.
That is, Doug, that is a good one.
Now, I have to ask this question because I feel like I might be wrong about this.
Did Lou Gehrig replace Wally Pip?
Or is that someone else?
I don't know.
All right, because you know the Wally Pip story, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because if it's Lou Gehrig, he retired and he retired Wally Pip, which would be also hilarious in that.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
I could be wrong about that.
Now, that is a very good one.
Now, here's someone who I hate with a passion.
I'm going to bring him up.
But I think it was his third retirement that was official, and that's Brett Favre.
Well, Brett was on my list as well.
Okay, the reason I put Brett Favre on this list is not because his retirements were shocking.
It's because I remember how annoying they were.
And I remember the last one when he finally retired with us, which is...
I hate saying it out loud.
When he threw that interception on purpose in the NFC Championship game to ruin the Vikings' life.
No, but I remember the second announcement.
He retired once, then he retired twice, then he was debating retiring once, all this stuff, right?
But I remember seeing...
It was the first time I remember...
Brett Favre, I remember seeing on ESPN, like, here are planes and people trying to talk him down from doing stuff.
And, hey, this plane's going to New York.
Is he retiring?
Or is he going to the Jets?
Or is he going to the Giants?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I remember thinking, like, who cares about this person and where he's going?
And now I realize what a big deal it is now that I'm a little older.
Yeah.
But it's just very funny.
At the time, it was like, of course that was the big news.
The guy who is a gunslinger or whatever they want to call him, this really famous person, is either retiring or not retiring and going to change football landscape.
And that's just very funny.
That's how it goes.
Well, again, you talk about moving over.
I mean, if it wasn't for Favre moving on, you know, Aaron Rodgers, you know, had the whole issue here.
But also with Favre, remember, the story of Favre also starts back with the wonderful Atlanta franchise, in which I've known now for 50-plus years, is he was there and we traded him.
Yeah, but he was doing OxyContin on the side, so, you know.
Okay, I got one more that might be a little bit controversial.
But this man was forced into retirement, and that's Richard Nixon.
I am not a crook.
You know, when I was doing this list, he came up pretty quickly, only because I was thinking, like, yeah, these are all people who announced their retirement, but this man had to go on national television and walk away from the biggest seat in America and was basically forced into retirement by the United States.
Yeah, oh yeah.
And that made me...
That gave me a good laugh.
I was like, if anyone's big announcement...
A big retirement announcement.
It's Richard Nixon.
And I actually remember that.
I wanted to ask you about it.
Because I asked my mom about the moments because she was around for Martin Luther King's death.
My dad was born during JFK's death.
But that moment was what?
I don't want to get this wrong.
Is it 72?
71?
74. 74. Okay.
I think it was 74. Yeah, 74 is in that time right now.
What was the mood?
I know people were probably like, no, we didn't do anything wrong, the way we are now.
But was everyone kind of like, oh my god, is he really doing this?
Well, nobody knew.
I think that was the problem.
I mean, everybody had heard the Watergate stuff.
It had been breaking over time.
In fact, if you go back probably in history, it was probably the biggest, at the time, right after Watergate, the highest press...
You know, esteem that people had, that they trusted journalists probably more after the last few years after that because of what they, quote, found.
Right.
And look, Nixon was not a likable guy, you know, in some ways.
But he, you know, but he did, I mean, the amazing thing about Lincoln, Richard Nixon, is that he was such a paradox, okay?
But he would, I mean, he opened up China, but yet was, quote, tough on crime.
He bombed the snot out of North Vietnam.
No, but actually, you know, Trump worked toward negotiating a settlement.
You know, he was just such a paradox.
But the thing I remember most, and I remember clearly being at mom and dad's house and when it happened, because I was just getting interested in, you know, I was like eight, nine, but it was just like a pill came on.
It was just like, wow, this is sad.
And at least from my perspective, I just felt sad.
Well, also over history, what makes it sadder is the fact that he literally did it to himself.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There was nothing, no one was actually after him.
Yeah, no, no.
He could have won the election, you know, again, the Democrats.
Exactly.
It's very funny.
Do you have any others on your list?
Yeah, I got just a few I want to run through that actually.
Let's do it.
They set a standard, what I'll call the standard.
Remember, I talked about Andrew Luck.
I think some of these others, I'm just going to run through them real quickly.
One has a common theme, the NFC North, and it's called the Lions.
But, of course, Rob Gronkowski.
Gail Thayer.
Gale Sayre, that one's more sad than anything.
Yeah, it is.
Gale Sayre's just sad.
And then you've got, here are the three, all happen to be from the lines.
Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Billy Sims.
And Billy Sims.
See, there's another one that I didn't even think about.
I mean, if you think about those three...
Megatron was close to making my list, for sure.
Yeah, I mean, but if you think about Calvin Johnson, Megatron, amazing.
Amazing.
He left in his prime.
Him and Barry Sanders left during their prime.
And when Barry left, I mean, it went down.
But again, you're also, think about this, you're on the Lions.
All they got, you're going to get beat up, you're going to get killed.
And Billy Sims as well, they're running.
But I think it was interesting to me that they all decided, hey, I've had enough.
I'm not going to keep going on this.
I'm not going to put my body through this.
I'm not going to continue.
And so for me, it was just a setup.
Maybe knowing when to go is a good thing as well.
And you know what?
I bet you they also set the precedent for guys to be like, I'm going to get out of the situation I'm in before I end up like them.
Exactly.
I mean, how many, I think it almost is a sin that the worst team, and I say this in a way, the worst team in the league gets the first draft choice.
You know what?
I've thought about this a lot.
Doug, I know that I am not going to take this to an extreme, but the idea that we let this 19, 18, 20-year-old kid, whatever they are, and then football at 22, 21, go to the worst possible situation with almost no hope.
Now, look at Trevor Lawrence.
He got lucky this year because he got a real head coach, and they do have a little bit of talent.
But think about the first season, he had the worst possible situation that could have been ruined.
The Cleveland Browns have a list of people.
They should be arrested for what they've done to teenagers, to the 20-year-olds.
How many times have you seen a running back, or especially a quarterback, go to a terrible team and end up with a knee injury within the first couple of years?
Because one of the reasons they're a bad team is they have no blocking.
Doug, if you go to school for eight years and you do great work, you get to decide where you go to work after that.
If you get your PhD, you get to decide where you want to go to work, and you're going to get paid handsomely.
This poor person is getting drafted by the Detroit Lions?
I mean, I'm not saying we have to change things, but there should be some, like, you don't deserve this pick.
What did you do to deserve this?
You sucked all season?
Well, I'm going to bring it up to another thing, and we'll throw this in maybe another time when we get Chan Gailey back on.
I'm going to talk about, I think now that the USFL is back, and we also have the quote XFL back, I'm wondering if we don't need a relegation.
Oh, no.
Like they use in soccer.
We were talking about doing this in my fantasy football league.
If you're the worst, you go down to a second league, and we'll start that.
I think it's a brilliant idea.
The NBA should do it, too.
If you're going to act like this, you don't get to be in the big boy league.
You see it, and it's become so often you can almost name the bottom four teams before the season starts.
We should do this with everything.
If there's a couple of restaurants in your area that aren't doing great, get them booted out and bring in some new ones.
Relegation.
We get it.
Alright, folks.
This is what we do on Fridays.
We go back over news.
We talk about things that nobody might think about.
But it also gives you something to think about while you're running, while you're out running errands, and while you're doing the exercise.
But it is always fun.
We've got to have another one next week.
But for now, that is James and I are signing off on Friday's Finest.
We'll talk to you later.
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