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May 6, 2022 - Doug Collins Podcast
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HOT Take Friday: Is Trumps Influence Fading?, Democrats really don’t like you, and SCOTUS Hijinks
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Hey everybody, it's Hot Take Friday.
I've got a lot I want to get on the plate, but I wanted to sort of break it up.
We're not...
I wanted to...
I've got several things that have...
From this week, this has been a really interesting week.
Not only in our country, but the things that have been going on.
From the elections going on, the interesting information that is coming out of Washington, D.C. Or disinformation, if you would.
But also a lot of things that...
It just really shows the heart of the cycle that we're in and the election cycle that is going forward.
So what I want to do is just jump in.
We're going to take several topics.
We're going to talk about them.
I want to spend some time with them.
Just to give you a hot take Friday, if you would.
I was thinking about this, and I said, you know, what is a better way after the election news?
Ohio, you've seen Washington, D.C. We've still got Russia going on.
We've still got the Biden administration, clueless.
We've got the Fed raising rates.
What are these things...
That we can talk about as we go into the weekend.
So here, let's get started on Hot Take Friday.
First off, election in Ohio on Tuesday night.
This was a race, and let's set the standard here.
A lot has been made about the president by former President Trump endorsing in these races in primary races across the country.
And he's done so right now successfully.
And pretty much everyone that he is endorsed in have won.
We've seen this in the Texas primary.
And now we're getting ready for the month of May.
Now, let's lay out the month of May a little bit.
Monthly May is a little bit different in that you have the big primaries that have been affected across the country that people are talking about.
So you have Ohio.
There's a big Senate race, a big governor's race there in the primaries.
That just happened Tuesday.
We'll get to that in just a minute.
You've got coming up, you've got Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania, again, another big governor's race and an open Senate seat.
That's the two parallels between Ohio and Pennsylvania, both having open seats in that Senate race.
And I think that's going to play.
And I'll talk about that.
Why what we saw happen in Ohio could probably happen in Pennsylvania as well.
But we'll talk about that in a couple of minutes.
Again, comparing, I want you to know, that's one of the things I've committed to you on this podcast, is if you listen to the podcast, you share this podcast, download it, share it, make a comment, make sure people say it, because I'm going to give you information that you can then go out and use.
When you're hearing what the mainstream media is talking about, you can actually then dig down and say, okay, is that true?
Is that not?
Well, you know, what's the real story?
Ohio, Pennsylvania, both in the very similar vein of having open Senate seats and the president endorsing that.
Take it down a little bit further.
Then you're going to get into North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina.
There's a lot at play here over the next few weeks in the month of May dealing with what is the media talks about it, and not only liberal media but conservative media as well, is what is the power of the Donald Trump endorsement.
And I'm going to tell you right now, it is still very powerful.
I live in Georgia, but I travel all over the country.
And that endorsement is still very wanted, sought after, and valid in a Republican primary in particular.
Because there is still, you see the approval ratings of Donald Trump among Republican voters.
You see the impact that his endorsements had, that he's still, again, the media is obsessed with Donald Trump.
I mean, he doesn't have to necessarily be on social media for them to take everything that he says and put it on social media.
It's almost as if he's there.
So as you build through these races, we want to, and we've talked about them, and we've went through here on the show, talking about how these races could be impacted.
Well, now we have some of our first results, and I want to take it in a step further.
And I'm going to break out from what we talked about a couple of weeks ago here on the show and say this is what we actually saw playing out.
So let's start number one, hot take in Ohio.
J.D. Vance comes through.
J.D. Vance wins the nomination.
He's now going to go up against Tim Ryan for that Senate sink.
Mike DeWine, who is a governor, many wasn't sure that President Trump did not endorse in that, but DeWine was not in line, it seemed, for that endorsement.
But DeWine won going away in Ohio.
And now, focused on the Senate seat, you got J.D. Vance going against Tim Ryan.
Tim Ryan, probably if you had to go out and pick the best Democrat candidate in Ohio right now to run this race in this environment with this Democratic headwind that they have, Ryan's probably the best one that they could have picked.
So it's going to be imperative that the Republicans come together in Ohio around J.D. Vance.
And it's been a contested, heavily contested primary with Dolan and Mandel and Vance.
But let's talk about this Trump endorsement.
I want to break it down for a minute.
Because we've talked about it and how it may play out.
And will this endorsement fade?
And will people be willing to overcome?
Well, the answer is a resounding yes in Ohio.
The endorsement from former President Trump and Don Jr., along with a lot of money from Mr. Thiel, who put in almost $13 million or more into this race, $3 million just in the last few weeks with surrounding the endorsement, made the difference, it appears, in Ohio.
How do I know it made a difference?
Well, let's just go back and look at the polls.
As late as the end of March, J.D. Vance was in fourth place, third place at best, just struggling.
The campaign was just not catching fire.
There were other candidates that were making more of a headway.
If anything at that point, you would have wrote this off and said, Vance is just not going to...
Be able to pull this off.
Fast forward about four weeks into the last few weeks of the campaign, Donald Trump endorses J.D. Vance.
This had been something that had been talked about, thought about for a long time, but nothing, you know, concrete was coming out of Mar-a-Lago, and then all of a sudden, here it is, Donald Trump endorses J.D. Vance.
Now, this caused a stir in Ohio.
Let's just be very frank with it.
It caused a big stir among activists who've been working for a long time up there.
Most of the candidates in this race had been very much Trump supporters.
Mandel had been a Trump supporter through several terms.
And this really set off an interesting battle among conservatives is, is this the right move?
By the end result, you have to say that Donald Trump's endorsement was the right move, and by the fact that it put Vance into the general election in November against Ryan.
Now, why did that happen?
Was it just simply the endorsement?
And I've dealt with this a lot.
In Georgia, I've dealt with it in North Carolina.
You deal with it in these areas where you see, and let's just start off with one that was highlighted by the mainstream media as a failure or falling down, and that's Mo Brooks in Alabama.
Mo Brooks was early endorsed by Donald Trump.
It's now pretty well known that just a month and a half ago he unendorsed Mo Brooks, which for a lot of folks seemed to seal Mo Brooks' Senate run in Alabama, although there's been some thought that his numbers were improving a little bit here recently.
It doesn't seem to fit the narrative that we're looking at here, but...
There's several things that go into endorsement and isn't endorsement enough.
In Georgia, we've got several candidates who jumped into races late, got the president's endorsement, and now they've in essence had to run a 60 to 90 day campaign to not only put an infrastructure in place, to make the fundraising, to do whatever it takes to normally win a statewide race, and they went on basis of the ability to get Donald Trump's endorsement.
I lay out this question.
I posit this question here on Hot Take Moment.
Why is it working?
Why is the Trump endorsement working in Ohio?
I believe it will work the same in Pennsylvania, and we'll keep working this through North Carolina, Georgia, and others as we get through this season.
But let's just take where we're at right now in Ohio.
Here's some uniqueness about Ohio, which I think made the difference in J.D. Vance winning this with the endorsement of Donald Trump.
And here's what happened.
You had a Senate race in which, for the most part, there were a lot of money being spent and a lot of things being done.
A lot of folks have been in the race for many, many months, even a year at a time.
They've been preparing for this fight with Portman leaving.
They knew it was coming.
And But nobody caught fire.
Nobody could really capture the imagination of the Ohio Republican voter, the primary voter.
So you had numbers that showed Vance, like I said, in fourth place just a mere six, seven weeks ago.
You had Mandela in the lead.
You had Dolan coming up, who was one that ran probably the closest to an anti-Trump kind of campaign.
As you look at it, what we were seeing in the poll numbers was this.
Number one, there was no incumbent to take the life out of the room.
There was no incumbent that would come in and say, you know, that have that extra 5, 10 points advantage, 15 points advantage simply because they're an incumbent.
So it's a clean slate when it comes to that.
You had then a field of candidates making themselves known, but none distinguishing themselves enough to where they actually could have what we call in the political world a hardcore voter or the vote that would never change.
So what we're seeing here is if they were a Mandel supporter or a Dolan supporter or others, you know, ask could they possibly change?
What we saw was high numbers of people saying, yeah, I might change my vote.
I'm not, you know, I'll say I'm voting for this person now, but I'm not going to say I might not change my vote.
So what you see is a soft electorate, what we call.
And that laid the groundwork for an intangible, something out there that you couldn't have predicted, couldn't have found just a little bit before that all of a sudden appears and pushes over a candidate in an environment like this.
Well, two things always do that.
Number one, a very popular endorsement.
Number two is money.
So first is an endorsement.
Second is money.
And the structure to get it out there.
J.D. Vance had that.
J.D. Vance had a lot of money from not only money he raised, but also outside money.
Peter Thiel, who sent a great deal of money into Ohio.
At the time, though, that money was simply providing name ID. It didn't overcome some of Vance's...
Opinions that he had had about former President Trump before.
The antagonistic relationship he had a little bit with the base on this.
So you saw what you saw in the polls.
But with nobody being solid into other candidates, this provided an opportunity in the later weeks, the last couple weeks of the campaign, for Donald Trump to come in and say, look, J.D. Vance is my guy.
He's the one I'm endorsing here.
So out of all of these other candidates, good folks, and he even said this as late as right before the election, you know, I like a lot of them, I like them all, but I'm endorsing Vance.
What that did for Vance was, is all of a sudden, for those people who were saying...
Okay, I may, I may not.
You know, I'm not sure.
They said, okay, I now have a reason beyond what I have found before to vote for Vance.
We started immediately seeing a little bit of bump in the poll numbers right after the endorsement, but it was so close to the election.
That a lot of people probably held back their opinions or they had voted or however you want to look at it, but you were not getting that close to an election, probably the truest version of where the votes were moving to.
What we now know and what we saw in a few polls that were done was that Mandel lost momentum, Dolan gained a little bit, but the real winner was J.D. Vance with that endorsement.
He had the infrastructure and the money, more money for That allowed him to tell every Republican voter that he was the Trump-endorsed candidate in Ohio, that he was the one to carry the America First agenda.
He had already had Don Jr. in and out the whole time.
And now there was some solidity to his candidacy, a validity that came from Donald Trump's endorsement.
Why was this not seen?
It's several reasons.
Number one, there's no incumbent.
It's a muddled field.
The endorsement came close to the end of the election cycle in which people are looking to see who they're going to vote for.
And if they have said, I have a preference, but they don't have a solid preference, that gives the opportunity for them to take an outside influence or an outside stimulus, in this case being Donald Trump, to say, this is my guy and this is who I want you to vote for.
Then if they're not really sold on who they had thought about, then they would switch to J.D. Vance.
And so what we saw was, is J.D. had almost a, depending on the poll numbers you were looking at, probably a 15 to 16 point bounce from that late March polling.
The rest never really took off from anywhere.
They're low 20s.
And so you saw J.D. in the low 30s.
You saw the rest of the field in the low 20s.
And now J.D. Vance.
And the other thing here is there's no runoff in this Ohio primary.
So Whoever could get out and squeak out the majority of the votes is going to win.
Whoever had the most votes wins the primary and goes on to the general election.
And that's where we're at.
So you're saying, well, Doug, that's great.
Does that mean that the president's endorsement is going to be valid in the same way all over the place?
Well, I'm not sure it will be valid in the same place as it is in Ohio at this moment.
But I do have something for you to look ahead.
So if you're hedging ahead, you're looking ahead to the 17th, you're looking to Pennsylvania, let's look at some similarities into what Ohio brought with the Trump endorsement of J.B. Vance.
Even at the time when it did cause some concern among the conservative base, it caused a concern that Donald Trump had endorsed the wrong person.
You heard all kinds of stuff coming out of Ohio.
To some of those who supported the other candidates, that may still ring true.
The days after the election, they'd hoped that their candidate would win, their candidate didn't win, and now they're going to have to go over and vote for somebody that they did not want to vote for in the primary process.
Vance only got 33% of the total Republican primary vote, which leaves 67% of the folks who voted in the Republican primary there to have voted for somebody else.
I think that's the building process that Republicans are going to have to go through now in Ohio as they look forward to seeing when the general election begins to shape up, and we'll see how that goes.
Let's flip to Pennsylvania right quick.
The hot take Pennsylvania is the same, same, same, and I can't say it enough, dynamic in the Senate race.
You've had Sands, McCormick, you've had Dr. Oz, everybody, and several other candidates there just fighting back and forth, struggling for votes, spending a lot of money, especially the top opponents, Oz and others, spending just massive amounts of money into Pennsylvania for this Senate seat.
Underneath it, you have a governor's seat that's open as well.
But by not having, again, an incumbent sitting in this seat, you have an open field in which people are now trying to get used to who's there and what message they're giving and does this fit the values that they have with Pennsylvania or does this fit the values that they want to vote for?
Again, another item that seems to be very prevalent in Pennsylvania is there's not...
You always have hardcore support for some candidates, but if you have a lot of soft support, it provides an opening for someone to come in, either on a candidate or an outside influence like an endorsement that would make...
The electric turn toward that candidate.
Well, the candidate a few weeks ago, you talk about, I mean, the endorsement of J.D. Vance was big.
The endorsement of Dr. Oz by Donald Trump was, I think, even more seismic if you look at it from what it meant.
Because, again, a lot of the hardcore conservatives in Pennsylvania had looked at this race with McCormick and others.
Many of them did not feel that Dr. Oz's conservative resurgence as a candidate, not when his TV show was something that they could support.
So now it's a fight.
This is one that has been polled a great deal.
Again, a lot of candidates, no income, soft attraction rate to some of the candidates that are there.
The perfect place for, in a late race, which is relatively what Donald Trump did, late in a race, to make an endorsement and see if that would shake loose one of the candidates.
Now, the one interesting thing is here, he endorsed in this race a little bit earlier than he did, as per se to the actual election day in Ohio.
And the numbers are tight.
Neither one is broken free.
Oz was up a great deal.
He was falling.
The Trump endorsement stopped that falling, arrested that fall, if you would, and has put him in a stable to growing position in this race.
Now, for voters up there in Pennsylvania, they're going to have to decide who have been going for a long time.
Picking one of these candidates, are they going to be able to go on the endorsement of Donald Trump, of Dr. Oz?
Will that be the thing that pushes it over the top?
I tend to think it will be.
And that's why, again, Pennsylvania doesn't have a runoff system, just like Ohio.
So in running that race, I think you're going to see this give Dr. Oz a four to eight point point.
You saw this in Ohio.
I think you'll see a very similar thing in Pennsylvania.
Again, doesn't have to go to a runoff, so simply when the most votes in the primary, you're into the general election.
And I think that the endorsement from Donald Trump, especially among primary voters in the state of Pennsylvania, will make the difference as you go forward.
But this has been an interesting week.
There's going to be a lot of eyes on this, a lot of media Is saying that this month's going to be very difficult for Donald Trump.
We've actually talked about the elections on the podcast.
But coming up in North Carolina, we're seeing the power of the endorsement with Ted Budd.
Ted Budd is now up double digits and a very solid lead in the Republican primary.
You're going to have the races in South Carolina with Tom Rice and Nancy Mace, who have both fell on the wrong side of Donald Trump through the impeachment process.
We'll see how those races go in the primaries.
Alabama's coming up.
We've already talked about the fact that this was the race for Senate that Britt and Durant are now leading in, and Mo Brooks is trying to salvage what's left of the campaign that he can to come into.
And then you have Georgia.
And this is where I think the ultimate Trump endorsement power will be tested at its most roots.
I think, look, Herschel Walker in our Senate race down here, again, a very open primary, but at the At the end of it, Herschel Walker had a commanding lead ever since he got in the race.
It's his popularity.
He's known.
Nobody really in the state of Georgia who's watched football or anything else in the last 30 years does not remember Herschel Walker as a running back from the University of Georgia who led him to a national championship and a Heisman Trophy.
This is just not something that is unknown in Georgia, and the Georgia football team is very...
Powerful when you look at touching voters or hearing that you played for Georgia football.
And again, with the problem coming up with this election in Georgia is the Trump endorsement is very much at play and very much a factor, but there's also the anti-endorsement, if you would, that Donald Trump has made and going after Brian Kemp on multiple occasions.
Brad Raffensperger, Secretary of State, Attorney General Chris Carr.
You know, he said he endorsed Burt Jones in the lieutenant governor's race and at the same time put out a post saying that he would never endorse Butch Miller, who was the other one in the Senate race.
So, again, he's played in a lot of races, two in particular that I'm focused on, and just to see from...
A take position is the insurance commissioner's race and the attorney general's race here.
Both Patrick Witt and John Gordon, who's running for attorney general, Patrick Witt against John King for insurance, are facing incumbents in the primary.
Right now, internal polling...
It shows that these candidates are struggling with name ID, struggling to get caught up.
The Trump endorsement helps them.
The Trump endorsement sort of builds over that gap of lack of credibility with voters who don't know who they are.
Witt had been running for the 10th district congressional seat.
In this process, John Gordon had been on the sidelines completely.
Both of them announced their candidacies and get in the race during qualifying time.
So this has been a very shortened race for them.
This one will be one if either one of those candidates win.
In this process, it shows that it only can be attributed to the power of the Donald Trump endorsement because there's simply no measurable fundamentals to look at.
Neither one have had the opportunity.
It's just time shortage of raising a lot of money, getting a team together, getting the material out there.
So Vernon Jones, another example of this over in the Georgia's 10th congressional district, who's running on the simple fact that Donald Trump endorsed me and these other issues.
But it's always front and center of the Donald Trump endorsement.
So this is going to be an interesting time as we see this play out.
But I wanted to give you just a good, quick hot take.
Is the MAGA world, as it has been called, the Trump influence waning in these primaries?
Right now, I have to say no.
If anything, if win begots win, then you're going to see this going further.
If you go into Pennsylvania, you see Dr. Oz win there.
You'll see this foundation building, and you're going to see a...
The Trump influence grow more and more.
Now, that's causing, as many would know, causing a bind with the establishment.
Washington, who has no desire to see Donald Trump coming back because the establishment Republicans and others don't want to see this happen.
Now, again, these candidates who win these primaries are then going to have to go to general elections.
This is what makes the Senate, in my mind, as we've talked about, sort of a little bit more up in the air.
Hot take number one here on this Friday morning and Friday is...
Donald Trump's influence, not waning.
Donald Trump's importance in his endorsements in areas, especially when there is instability or there's indecision in the voter pool, you're going to see the Donald Trump endorsement in a Republican primary carry a lot of weight, and we saw that in Ohio this week.
I want to turn to something next that...
And this is going to be just a discussion.
It's me and you here on the podcast.
The Doug Collins podcast, again, tell your friends about...
But there's a part of me that is this discourse.
And I want to go back to this discourse language.
And what we have found has been a lot of concern and discussion.
And on another podcast, I'm going to talk about this new Board of Disinformation or the Ministry of Truth, one of the four Orwellian 1984 ministries that seems to be coming out of the Biden administration.
Now, look, the Biden administration...
This is setting itself up to where I think is becoming one of the more, in an era of raw politics, this is becoming even more raw because it's not about the issues anymore.
It's about the people and the issues.
The old TV show, The West Wing.
Ansley was one of the attorneys.
She was a Republican, brought in to work in a Democrat administration.
Before she was hired, she has a back and forth with one of the characters, Rob Lowe, on the Second Amendment.
And she makes the comment there about...
The Second Amendment, he gets upset and says, you know, because if you go follow the TV show, there was a shooting and so he's very sensitive to it.
But then she makes a great point and it leads me into hot take number two and that is the Democrats...
Don't like you because you're a conservative.
They don't just dislike your views.
They don't like you.
And it's used in the way that they word things.
So what she told Sam was, and it leads into this, he says, Sam, you don't like people who, you don't like guns, but you don't like the people who like guns.
And that's an interesting distinction here.
When you look at it, it's one thing to disagree about a subject.
Now, we can go and we've done abortion here.
I won't pick that back up, sort of like a prophet on that one.
All of a sudden, we have the leaked document this week about overturning Roe v.
Wade.
Abortion, you know, very passionate topic going along.
There are things in these political debates that rise to the level of fundamental convictions.
And we can debate those fundamental convictions.
But at the end of the day, it's a breakdown in our political process if I don't like you because of the views that you hold.
I may dislike your views, but I can still get along with you.
That's the civility that keeps government going.
I think that's the civility that goes back to the Founding Fathers.
The Founding Fathers had this in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, when they started this country.
They didn't get along.
Folks, if you don't believe this, go look at your history.
They didn't get along.
Big states, small states.
The mercantile cities with the agricultural south.
They went back and forth.
They had the compromises.
And in the end, they came up with this constitutional republic that we have, this federalist system, in which the federal government has certain duties and responsibilities.
The rest left to the states to have their duties and responsibilities.
And at the end of the day, you would read a lot about the founders.
You'd read a lot about the years going to develop in this country.
They fought vehemently about their ideas, but it never turned, at least what we can tell, into what we're seeing today is that if I hold a pro-life view or if I hold a pro-Second Amendment view, it's not that I disagree with your ideas, I disagree with you.
And you say, well, Doug, you know, come on.
You know, you're being a little dramatic here.
Am I? Well, let me just show you what the President of the United States, Joe Biden, Actually talked about when he was asked about the Republican Party and the elections.
This is what he said.
He said, this MAGA crowd...
We'll come back to that.
This MAGA crowd is really the most extreme political organization that's existed in American history, in recent American history.
He told this reporter, of course, referring to Donald Trump's Make America Great Again movement.
He continues this...
Pick up basically saying that the Republican Party is so extreme that most people can't understand who or what they are.
Now, this is Joe Biden talking about not the policies, but the people.
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Because I believe the language that he uses says that this is about the people who believe the issue, not what they believe about the issue.
He also goes on, he said this in Seattle earlier in the month, he said, this is the MAGA party now.
These guys are a different breed of cat.
They're not like what I served with for so many years, and the people who know better are afraid to act correctly because they'll know they'll get primary.
Again, Notice the language being used here.
The language says that this MAGA crowd, does that not just, you know, relate back to your ears to when, you know, Hillary Clinton called conservatives the deplorables?
That when you saw in Peter Strzok and Lisa Page's text message back and forth, that they didn't like to go to Walmart because it just reeked of this conservatism, this Trump world that they despised so much.
Again, Never an issue brought up.
Never a decision brought up.
Never a conflict of, I believe this, you believe that.
No, it was they didn't like the people, and those text messages were repulsive, saying, I'm in a Walmart in Virginia, and these people are just basically disgusting.
I see it out here.
But you're seeing it in this language here also with Barack Obama.
Remember, he said these people, they hold on to their guns and God as if that was a bad thing.
But again, notice that he mentions a couple of issues, but he says these people.
Joe Biden says this MAGA movement, these MAGA crowd, again, look at what they're going to.
They're going at you.
You are the conservatives out there.
You may or may not be a supporter of Donald Trump.
That's up to you.
But conservatives to them are something to be ridiculed.
Not the ideas.
I mean, they'll debate you the ideas when they want to, but most of the time they won't because they can't win.
So what do they do?
They go to attacking the holder of the ideas.
And this is the language it does.
It don't.
Tell me that there's not a disdain here from the President of the United States when he said on two separate occasions, a month apart, he said this is the MAGA party now and this MAGA crowd is really an extreme political organization.
Folks, we got a lot of problems in our country, and we got a lot of ideas.
Now, I will say that there are liberals who have ideas.
They believe that the government is the best to be in control.
The government is the one that should be making the rules, the ideas.
It is a government that should take over education, that parents only have a limited role in the education of their child, and that the experts, so to speak, in the school systems are the ones that We saw that expression.
We've seen this same kind of expression in the Loudoun County Board of Education.
We've seen it across the country.
And we saw a lot of actually Board of Education members recalled in California and other places because they were out of touch with the people that they represented.
And it was not just conservatives.
It was liberals as well saying, wait, wait, wait, you're not going to take the parent out of the role of education.
But you could sense it in that, why are you talking to me?
Here's the parameters.
I'm the elite.
You're the outsider looking in.
You should just listen to what we say and not question us.
This is the problem that I'm seeing in the modern Democratic Party right now as they attack Republicans.
Some will attack the issues, and that's fine, but a lot are going back to this rhetoric that the president has put out here, saying that it is this MAGA crowd, that it is these people, going back to Hillary Clinton, these deplorables, going back to Barack Obama, holding and clinging to their gods and guns.
We see it when they disagreed with Donald Trump.
It was Maxine Waters saying, no matter where these people are, harass them.
If they're in a public place or a restaurant, harass them.
That's what we need to do.
Now, again, they don't want the same turned on them.
But again, notice what they're doing.
Maxine Waters did not go say to your liberal, go to your conservative friend and try and convince them that you're right.
She said, no, go and harass them.
That's what they deserve.
And we saw Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her families at a restaurant who were harassed.
We've seen it all across the country in this heightened rhetoric That has developed not just in the last few years through COVID, in which we began to have masks and vaccines and others that began to be a very much of a divisive issue.
Again, not debating the idea, not debating the science, but debating on if you held a belief contrary to the liberal thought here, it was you that was the problem.
This is something that is changing in our political environment.
It's something that is not healthy for political discourse if we're actually looking to change the focus of what our country is.
So I just want to lay the hot take that I have today is, look, do not ever let the liberals try to win.
The argument is that they're the kinder, gentler party.
They're the ones that are actually attacking conservatives as people Not taking on the ideas that most of us believe that would make this country better, and that is the conservative principles of dealing with the economy, dealing with our trade deficit, dealing with our foreign presence, dealing with our foreign relations, dealing with these issues that we frankly need to have the discussion about.
If liberals want to bring their points to the table, bring them to the table.
Instead, they don't want to debate their points most of the time.
They want to attack the person bringing the message, and they're getting complete cover by guess who?
Joe Biden, the President of the United States, because he believes this MAGA crowd, as he calls it, are the most extreme political folks that he's ever been around.
I just have a question.
Joe, have you looked around your cabinet lately?
Have you looked around the people in the House?
Have you ever met AOC? Have you ever met Elon Omar?
Have you ever met Cori Bush?
Have you ever met Prima Jopal?
Have you ever met Jeremy Raskin?
Have you met any of these people?
Have you met Elizabeth Warren?
Bernie Sanders?
Oh, by the way, you have.
You've been on a debate stage with them.
How about Chuck Schumer?
These folks, you talk extreme for your party.
You have people leading the Democratic Party again saying that they've left me.
When it gets to the point where you are the party of unlimited abortion, you've got Colorado and others who have no limits for the application of an abortion.
And if Roe v.
Wade is overturned, that's what it will go back to.
Don't tell me.
That this is not extremist within your own party, but the president's leading the chorus on this, and it is taking a dangerous turn in our political environment.
And it's not just talking about that, it's also talking about the issues that we've seen this week with the leaked draft opinion.
So, hot take number one, I want you to know, look, Donald Trump still has the most powerful endorsement in the Republican primary.
Hot take number two, Democrats just don't like you, okay?
Let's just be honest with them.
They don't even debate the ideas.
As the president said, it's that MAGA crowd.
It's the people in the crowd that he doesn't like.
He's a very extremist.
He's attacking not the ideas, he's attacking the crowd itself.
The last thing that I want to leave for this hot take part is the spring court this week had something that happened to them that they've never had happen really before, and especially in the way that this happened.
And that was a leaked draft opinion on Roe v.
Wade.
This is the Dobbs case again.
We spoke of the Dobbs case last week in depth.
Now I bring it back up because this is an issue that...
It shows five of the justices willing to take and overturn Roe v.
Wade and send it back to the states.
The concern that I have here is whoever leaked this was looking to get it out into the public realm so that they could possibly influence one of those five to change their opinion, maybe side with Justice Roberts on some kind of a concurrence That would allow a keeping of Dobbs, maybe, but not an overturning of Roe.
This is dangerous, folks.
You have some of the most extreme ideological positions of most things on that court.
You need a Sotomayor and a Thomas to talk to each other and to be willing to share ideas and exchange drafts and to be able to convince each other of their points, if they can, with it being in an environment in which that is done in private and having somebody leap This document to the press was simply,
in my opinion, an act of not only jeopardizing the sanctity of the court, not only jeopardizing the modicum on how they actually decide decisions, but it actually jeopardizes in the future on almost every other decision as well.
And the Supreme Court deals with abortion Only about once every 10 or 12 years.
This is something we need the court who will be willing to trust each other on all the other issues.
Privacy issues when it comes to search and seizures.
We need them in business decisions.
We need the courts to be able to talk to each other and to speak freely without worry that their opinion is going to be put out there.
And this has destroyed that.
My hope is they catch who did it very soon.
My hope is that the five who have already went on record saying that they would support an overturning of Roe would be upheld.
This decision gets put out quickly.
And as this decision is put out quickly, we will see a restoration of the court.
Now, those are just some hot takes.
I want you to get out there, be engaged in the community, be engaged in your elections.
If you've got elections and primaries coming up in your state, find you a candidate, get out there and work for that candidate.
Take your conservative values into the marketplace.
We don't need to keep them out.
Don't worry if the left don't like you.
They don't like you.
I'm tired of conservatives going out saying, well, I'll modify my opinion so that the liberals like me.
They don't like you.
They don't like your opinions and now I'm showing you they don't like you.
Take your opinions, make them known, and don't worry.
They already don't like you.
You're not going to make them like you any less.
So again, stick to who you believe.
And then this last issue, if we're getting to the point now to where the Supreme Court cannot even negotiate back and forth within what they deem that modicum of privacy, that deliberate judicial policy, Negotiation and deliberations cannot be kept from the public because you have a leaker with an agenda ready to do that and send that out.
That's a problem that needs to be addressed.
But I'm going to bring back something today that I haven't brought back in a while.
And here we are.
I've said it before.
We're going to bring back the I'm done with you segment.
All right, Secretary Mayorkas, I don't understand you.
I've actually talked about you on this show before.
I've talked about it in interviews.
It's time for you to resign because guess what?
If you don't resign, you're probably going to be impeached next year when the Republicans take over the House.
Why would I say that?
Secretary Mayorkas, quit being impeached.
Quit being the liberal pawn that you have seemed to be and start taking the Homeland Security Department seriously.
Start at the southern border.
Quit going down and doing photo ops at the southern border and saying publicly, nothing is wrong, we're all okay, and touting numbers that are unrealistic when actually privately you are saying it's an embarrassment.
We've seen this over the past year.
You say it's a crisis in private and out in public you're saying it's not a crisis.
We're seeing you have a complete lack of understanding of keeping our homeland safe.
Secretary Mayorkas, you can't keep doing a job that you undoubtedly have no desire to do.
But the classic for me and the reason you've succeeded in making the I'm done with you list this week is last week you went before the Senate and the House and you were talking about the secretary of Congress.
You're giving your report as Secretary of Homeland Security, and you were asked about this new Board of Disinformation, the Ministry of Truth, if you would, from 1984 in the George Orwell saga.
And it is a board in which you have put a young lady in there who is your, quote, This is also someone who has said that the Hunter Biden laptop and the whole issue was made up by the Trump campaign, that the Russian disinformation was true.
I mean, you just go on and on.
My question is if this person is supposed to be the value of truth, will she start with herself and what she's been untruthful about?
I tell you what, she can make a Mary Poppins video on supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, but I will say you this, the only thing that she is really accustomed to doing is shutting down conservatives.
And then, Secretary Marcus, you have the audacity To go up and when Senator Kennedy asked you, did you know about these TikTok videos when you hired Ms. Janquis?
And you said, nope, I did not know about these videos.
What is the hiring standard come to at the Department of Homeland Security?
Obviously, it's about like it is.
On the southern border, nonexistent.
You said you didn't even know.
That's become common practice, especially in jobs that would have any high profile to them.
And you didn't know of her bent against free speech, against the truth, before you hired her, Secretary Mayorkas, It's time.
Your few minutes of fame are up.
It's time to retire.
Go do your consulting work because if not, I'll guarantee you the Republicans in the House will want to have a lot of questions for you about your lack of job performance.
So Secretary Mayorkas, congratulations.
I'm done with you.
Folks, be ready to see us next time.
That's Hot Take Friday.
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