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Feb. 25, 2022 - Doug Collins Podcast
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Healthy Cell's Doug Giampapa
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Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
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It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
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Hey folks, Doug Collins back on the Doug Collins Podcast.
We're excited today because today is a day in which, you know, I've always promised you, we talk about politics, we talk about money, we talk about, you know, hunting, we talk about life and total involvement.
But one of the things that we often forget because we're all busy, we don't get to it, and we always make excuses.
It's our health.
It's our sleeping.
It's our eating.
It's our vitamins.
It's our exercise.
It's all those things that come together.
And today, one, we're excited to have Healthy Cell and Doug Giopopoff with us today who is going to talk about all these issues.
But Healthy Cell is who I trust with my supplement, my vitamin needs, and for a lot of different reasons.
And it has been a great help to me, and it's something that I take great pride in.
We're going to give you a chance today to learn about it, but also go to their website.
You also can get a discount if you use my name, Collins.
There's a lot of things that we're going to work on today.
But this is one of those shows that I want to give back to you because I believe if you take the time to work on your health, work on your exercise, work on the things that stress and sleep and those kind of things, you're going to be a well-rounded person that can engage in life around you.
So this is a great show today.
And Doug, welcome to the Doug Collins Podcast.
Doug, thank you.
Much appreciated.
You know, what you said is right.
I had COVID a few weeks ago, and I was down for two days sleeping and with a fever.
And even afterward, you know, I just lost my motivation to do a lot of different things.
And I thought to myself, wow, people who are unhealthy, because I'm really typically pretty healthy, People who are unhealthy probably feel like that kind of lethargic, low energy all the time.
I don't know how those people get anything done.
It's absolutely critical to stay healthy if you want to be productive and do the things you care about.
One of the things I wanted to talk about today was...
A few different topics, but in a different way.
So diet, exercise, sleep, reducing stress, and supplements.
But not in a boring way, not telling you about what everyone knows already.
Take vegetables, don't eat saturated fats.
Little known facts that are critical in each one of those categories that I think your listeners will find interesting.
Well, looking forward to it.
Let's start off with sort of the way you just laid it out.
Because, again, I came to you through a friend that is in the radio business side, but I was looking for something.
Again, my wife had COVID as well, and we're working through that.
And it is amazing when your immune system is suppressed or you go through that time or you're not healthy, that lethargicness that you just talked about, you do wonder how many people, I wonder if there's a study, how many people go through every day with sort of, it's not that they don't want to get up, it's just that they've not fueled their body properly.
I don't know how I couldn't function feeling like that chronically is the way a lot of people feel, especially if they're sleep deprived.
I don't know how they ever really do anything unless they're able to break out of that.
Hopefully, with some of the things we talk about today, we can help them break out of that a little bit.
I think that's going to be important, too, because I want to dive into these different aspects and then also talk about why Healthy Cell is so different.
I gotta tell you, the Microgel, it has been a game changer for me.
I used to take, as everybody else did, the pills that have been around for 70 plus years, they've never changed.
And I just never felt I was getting a lot out of it.
And I'll have to say, after starting your products, it's been different because I feel it actually getting into my system.
But let's start off.
I think one of the things you mentioned was, you know, everybody talks about diet and eating.
Let's talk about this.
You know, where does it start?
Is it diet?
Where do you see the healthy lifestyle starting?
So if you picture it as a wheel, right?
And there are many spokes on that wheel.
There are certain spokes that are more critical than others, but they're all very important.
So if we want to focus on priority-wise, like the top five spokes, it's going to be diet, exercise, sleep, reducing stress, supplementation fits in there as well.
And they're all related.
So it's hard to say what's the most important because, as you'll see as we talk, they all kind of interact.
And impact each other.
So on that wheel of health, if we talk about the first spoke, diet, most people should get most of their nutrients from food, vitamins, minerals, other micronutrients.
But what we find is most people don't.
The data shows people are deficient in, almost everyone is deficient in one or more vitamin or mineral.
Many people are deficient in several.
Why?
Because they're not eating right.
They're eating on the go.
They're eating processed foods.
They're eating saturated fats.
They're eating high carb or high calorie but low nutrient density foods.
So that's all things people know.
So I don't want to harp on that.
But one of the things people don't know is one of the most important things you could do is it's called calorie restriction.
And it doesn't mean starving yourself.
But what it does mean is eating 15 to 25 percent less.
So, if you can just eat 15% less, which isn't hard if you've got a 2500 calorie diet, 2,500 calorie diet and you eat 15% less, you're looking at 2,100 calories, roughly.
So that's really not so bad.
And what the studies show is, for example, Cell Metabolism Journal has a study that shows it slows aging, protects against diseases including cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's.
Really powerful stuff.
Another journal, Science of Translational Medicine.
Five days a week only, not even seven days a week, shows that it slows aging.
So the way it does that is basically your body produces less free radicals, which are those highly charged energy particles.
You hear about oxidation and antioxidants, right?
So you have more oxidation.
These highly charged particles bounce off your cells, your DNA, damage your cell membranes, damage your DNA. So the more you eat, the more free radicals you produce.
The more damage you experience.
It also helps you clean out and detoxify cells.
It lowers your inflammation.
So if you can just eat 15% less, it's going to have a huge impact.
Not just on weight or body composition, but in aging and your propensity toward disease and just in general the way you feel.
You'll have more clarity of thought.
So that's the key tip in diet that not many people think about.
Well, Doug, let me take that step further because as we're just sitting here talking, one of the things that I've always, you know, I've been all my life tried to be healthy.
I've been in the military for 20 plus years.
You know, you try to stay in shape, but you go up and downs.
And I hear people talk about diet and you say cut 15%.
To the average person on this podcast, what does that mean?
I mean, in reality, if they're eating decent or if they're eating crappy, whatever it may be, what does it mean to take 15% off?
Yeah.
So, I mean, diet is one of those terms that doesn't have a real clear definition.
A lot of people kind of append their own definition to it, right?
But we're not talking about a fad diet where you do something for a month, right?
Lose a couple pounds, maybe feel a little bit better, and then go back to your normal self.
That doesn't really do much.
We're talking about something that's sustainable long-term.
It's a lifestyle change, right?
And it's intended to have long-term positive health impacts.
So, 15% less.
So we're talking about maybe 400 calories less a day on a 2,500 calorie diet, right?
So if you make little changes, for example, you don't have the Starbucks big latte or whatever that's 350 calories in the morning.
Instead, you just have a coffee with some oat milk, right?
You give that up, that's your 400 calories right there, right?
So little things like that.
You don't have to stop eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Eat a little bit healthier, but also eat a little bit less.
And if you remove just one thing or two things that add up to that 400 calories, that's it.
So it doesn't require that much willpower to give up 15% of your calories.
And as you do it, it will get easier, easier, easier.
Day one will be the hardest, day two the second hardest, day three the third hardest, and then it will become like normal and your body won't crave that extra 400 calories.
I've noticed in my diet sometimes, and I want to take off of this a little bit, when I started eating better portions or smaller, that restricted diet a little bit more, I Not really on a diet, but just eating better, less portions, not sitting down and gouging at one meal, so to speak.
The one of the things that I noticed was, is your body begins, especially if you tag it with exercise, your body begins to use what you actually put through it.
And that changed your whole digestive tract.
At least it did seem to me, is how it went through your body.
You were using more of what you had.
Your body was, you know, knowing that it only had X amount.
It wasn't depending on the excess a little bit.
That can happen.
What we talk about is eating nutrient-dense foods.
You're going to eat a little bit less calories, say 400% or 400 calories less, right?
But if you're eating nutrient-dense foods, you're getting the same amount or even more nutrients than you were getting, eating more calories.
So your body adjusts to that and even though you're eating less, your body feels satiated because you're eating higher nutrient-dense foods.
Supplements can help with that.
But there are also certain foods that are obviously more nutrient dense than others.
You want to get rid of those kind of empty carbs, you know, your breads, your pastas that everybody loves.
Or just eat a little bit less, right, to get to that 400 calorie reduction.
Give us, again, Doug, we're going to get into this and I'm excited about it.
But I've decided, let's make this also nutrient-dense food.
Are we talking...
I mean, I can hear somebody out there listening to the podcast driving down the road right now.
Maybe they're out there on the treadmill and they're saying, nutrient-dense?
Is that carrots?
Is that broccoli?
I mean, you know, is that all I have to eat?
Talk to us a little bit about nutrient-dense food to add into a diet.
Yeah, sure.
So, berries are one of the biggest things for nutrient-dense foods.
Blueberries, blackberries...
Berries are probably one of your number one.
But there are also things like, for example, certain bars that you can take where they've really compacted a lot of those superfoods and nutrient-dense foods, additional vitamins and minerals where you can eat a bar instead of a meal and feel totally satiated.
There are several companies out there you can look at.
If you take supplements, for example, like our gels, our micro gels, which are 165% more bioavailable, 165% more absorption than a tablet, it's an ingestible gel.
If you take that, that's going to infuse your cells, your bloodstream and your cells with more nutrients and your body is going to be more satiated and want to eat less because it doesn't crave more of those micronutrients because you've already satisfied that kind of load for the day.
Well, and I think that's the important part.
I think what you're trying to say and what I'm looking at, and I think I'm glad you're explaining it this way, is this is not hard.
This isn't, you know, the proverbial rocket science of saying, how do I do this?
And I think so many people get caught up in their health and while we're talking about diet, they think they have to go to, you know, here's my portion and here's what I'm, you know, taking out.
It's basically just eating better, but also eating less and letting your body, you know, understand it.
And like you said, eating better, but also eating less.
Eating better will help you eat less because your body will get the nutrients it's craving and therefore crave less, right?
So that's why I say even 15%, just start with that 400 calories and it will make a world of difference if you adopt that long term going forward.
And you combine that with things like exercise, which we'll talk about in a minute.
If you exercise properly, your metabolism will go up.
Your body will use those nutrients more effectively.
And you'll find yourself kind of When you combine exercise and diet, you'll see it in your body physically.
You'll see you drop weight.
You'll see your body composition get better.
But there are certain things with exercise.
If you want to jump into that, I can give you my comment.
Perfect segue.
We've been doing this a while.
People don't think about in exercise, everyone knows, do some aerobics.
Do some resistance training, right?
Because you build muscle mass.
That can actually burn more calories than aerobics.
And it can also boost your metabolism to help you with body composition and weight.
But one of the things people don't understand is heart rate variability.
So heart rate variability is critical.
One of the things you see, which not many people know, is if you look at a marathon runner and you do their blood work after running a marathon, it almost mimics somebody who just had a heart attack.
What happens is they elevate their heart rate and they're running with an elevated heart rate for hours and hours and hours and hours.
That's actually not good for you.
You overstress the heart.
You can cause scarring in the heart.
You can actually raise your potential for cardiovascular disease or heart-related disease in the future.
It's not good to elevate your heart rate and keep it there for hours and hours and hours.
What you should be doing is what's called heart rate variability, where you take your heart rate, you accelerate it to about 85% of what your max heart rate should be, then stop, let it drop.
So whether that's a sprint, And then stop and let it drop all the way to resting heart rate.
Then a sprint again, accelerate it up, let it drop.
So if you bring your heart rate up and down, up and down, that exercises the heart in the most healthy way and that's where you're going to get most of the health benefits.
So like, if a normal heart rate It's 60 to 100 beats per minute.
You want to know what your max heart rate should be.
You take 220 minus your age.
Let's say you're 50 years old.
220 minus 50 is 170. 170 should be your max heart rate when you work out.
85% of that is 145 beats per minute.
And you say, well, how do you know how many beats per minute?
You're not going to be sitting there with your finger on your neck the whole time.
It's a simple heart rate monitor.
Get one.
Garmin has watches now that connect to one that kind of straps across your chest.
Yeah, there you go.
You have one.
Great.
So just look at that.
And then as you're working out, Do that sprint or do that high intensity stair step or whatever it is.
Get your heart rate to that 145, right?
And then let it drop down to resting, which would be 85 beats per minute if you're 50 years old.
So you kind of have to do the math.
But once you figure out where your range is, just constantly work on that heart rate variability.
Your heart will get better.
You'll notice you're going to get the same amount of calories burned exercise-wise.
I mean, it's really the way to go.
It's called interval training is what people do.
Well, let me ask you that because that's a question that I'm interested in as well because I have to, you know, of course the military, I have to run a mile and a half.
I have to run a little bit of distance and then you're doing this back and forth.
But I've always heard building in and I've noticed it, building in intensity.
But you don't have to run, do you?
You can do the same thing with an incline if you had a hill outside your house or you had a treadmill that did an incline.
You can walk and still get your heart rate up and then drop it back down and do this.
Why is that better?
Than what you hear, you know, the old athletic, you know, thought, oh, just go run five miles and then keep it, what makes that different?
Why is that better for the heart?
It's because the heart exercise, you need to exercise the heart like any muscle, right?
So, when you exercise the heart, if you push it to its max and then let it recover, push it to its max and then let it recover, that's proven to be the healthiest way to exercise.
Exercise the heart without overdoing it and keeping it in this high beats per minute range for too long.
Let's say you're doing bicep curls.
You can do bicep curls and keep going and keep going and tear your muscle and actually do more damage than health, really, for your muscle.
More damage than healthy muscle building.
Same thing with the heart.
So you want to push it up and down.
That's just what the data shows.
But as you said, you can do jump rope.
If you've got knee issues or ankle issues, you can do a fast-paced swim.
You can do a stair stepper.
I like to run at least a mile a day.
And I'll do it on grass.
And what I'll do is I'll do a slow-paced jog.
Sprint.
Go down to slow.
Stop, actually.
Stop.
Let my heart rate come down.
Sprint again.
Stop.
Slow pace jog.
And just mix it up.
I do it on grass because I think running on pavement is really high impact, right, for your ankles and knees.
So anytime you can run on grass or on a padded track, that's probably what you should be doing.
Sand is the best.
I took a mile run on the beach the other day.
But again, this isn't hard stuff.
It's really not hard stuff.
Just like the diet, eating 15% less, totally doable.
Exercise, you push it, you drop.
Push it, drop.
It's not hard.
Well, one of the things you brought up that my wife and I, we talked about, Lisa, who you've, through me, we've talked about in diet and exercise.
She likes to walk.
She loves to get on the treadmill.
She does those.
She started to work in a little bit of weights.
You talked about resistance.
You know, which is weights or resistance bands, however you want to look at it, is being almost more important than aerobics and burning calories.
I don't think a lot of people actually understand that concept.
Why don't you dive into that for just a little bit?
Yeah, sure.
So it's important to do both.
Both will help.
However, if you build muscle mass, muscle is going to burn more calories than fat.
So if you have...
Here's a good example.
Oftentimes, people who do resistance training, and even aerobics, but resistance training, they'll step on the scale and they'll say, why am I not losing any weight?
I feel better, I look a hell of a lot better, but I'm not losing any weight.
Why?
Muscle weighs more than fat.
So...
If your body composition is better, you have more muscle, that muscle is going to require more energy to maintain itself.
So that's going to burn more calories, which your body burns from fat before muscle.
So you're going to basically shred your fat, you're going to weigh The fat loss you gain is going to be basically taken up by the muscle mass weight gain, but you're going to be about equal, but it's just more of a metabolism thing.
The more muscle you have, the more you burn.
So it's important to do both.
So people out there, if you're listening to the podcast and you're doing your aerobic, you're doing your heart rate issue, you're running, whatever it may be, but you're also doing your lifting.
You're starting to work in resistance training, whether it be dumbbells, whether it be machines, nautilus, whatever it may be.
Because I've heard this before and I've actually looked at it myself.
I'm saying I'm working out harder but yet I'm not losing weight and I discount the fact that my body is looking better because I'm only worried about weight.
Is weight become too much of a focus for people when they're talking about...
I mean I'm not talking about obese but I'm talking about that weight gain and loss.
Is that sometimes the wrong focus for people?
So if you're in the right range For your height, if you have a healthy weight and you maintain that same weight, but you're just trading off more weight coming from muscle versus more weight coming from fat, that's healthy.
Once you're in a healthy range already, you don't want to necessarily lose more weight.
You just want to shift your body composition so that you're getting more weight from muscle and less from fat.
If you're obese, different story, right?
You really need to focus on losing weight.
But it's a good point because a lot of people think, oh, I just need to lose weight.
If you're already a healthy weight, just focus on shifting body composition.
You'll stay the same weight.
Well, I think that's important.
Well, we've looked at it.
You've talked about this, folks, on the wheel.
We've talked about diet.
We've talked about exercise.
Both very important.
And I think some really great advice that we've seen so far...
But there's a missing ingredient here that is, I think, often overlooked.
And Healthy Cell has done a great job in this.
You have a sleep product, a REM product.
Let's get into the one that people may focus on their diet, they may get their exercise in, they may, you know, do a few things.
But in our society today, sleep Could be one of the biggest issues, at least I know it is in my mind, at least in my household.
Where does sleep fit into this?
I think sleep is the most underrated factor in our health today.
That's like a bold statement.
It totally is.
The CDC has actually, not many people know this, the CDC actually has declared insufficient sleep a public health epidemic.
Which is pretty crazy.
And it's declined.
The other thing is it's declined over the past...
Several decades.
We're getting less and less sleep as a society.
Many factors contribute to that.
The digital age.
We're constantly connected.
We're looking at TV. We're looking at phone before we go to sleep.
That creates blue light, which then disrupts our melatonin production.
Melatonin is a hormone that actually tells your body it's time to go to sleep.
So if you disrupt that process with blue light, you're going to have issues.
We can talk about that more later.
The reason why the CDC calls it a public health epidemic is it's unbelievable what insufficient sleep can do to your health.
But let's flip it.
Let me ask your audience a question.
If they could take one pill right now that would help them Reduce cancer.
Reduce Alzheimer's.
Reduce cardiovascular disease.
Lose weight.
Be more creative.
Be happier.
Look more attractive.
Boost their energy.
I mean, they would pay anything for that, right?
Like, pharmaceutical company would dream about that.
The good news is you don't need a pill for that, right?
All you need to do I'd say the best book ever written on sleep is called Why We Sleep by Matt Walker, PhD.
Unbelievable book.
Matt Walker, Why We Sleep.
It truly is amazing.
So poor sleep increases your cancer rate.
You've got these things called NK cells in your body floating around.
Natural killer cells that kill precancerous cells.
They decrease in quantity if you're not sleeping long enough and if you don't have good quality sleep.
Alzheimer's increases.
Or your chance of Alzheimer's increases.
The reason is, not many people know this, when you're sleeping, during a certain stage of sleep, the cerebral fluid in your spine goes up into your brain and basically washes out.
Anything that shouldn't be there, any toxins, those plaques that form in your brain, washes them out.
So if you're not getting enough sleep or you're not getting the right quality of sleep and you never reach that stage of sleep where that happens, that builds up in your brain that And that's one of the things scientists believe leads to Alzheimer's.
So totally, it's one of the most important things.
Cardiovascular disease, again, goes up when you sleep or when you don't sleep.
So it's inflammation goes up when you don't sleep, right?
It hits everywhere if you don't sleep, so absolutely critical.
Well, let me ask you, you talked about the different stages of sleep.
What stage of sleep is that where that fluid gets in and washes your brain, so to speak?
And why don't more people get there?
Yeah, so there's a few stages of sleep.
There's a...
It's called NREM1, where your body kind of transitions into sleep mode.
Then there's NREM2, meaning non-REM2, and that's where your heart rate slows a little bit, your body temperature drops a little bit, and you're actually sleeping.
There's NREM3, Really, it's called deep sleep.
That's where your body goes through this brain detoxification process.
Then there's REM, which is the fourth stage.
You cycle through these several times as you sleep.
REM is a stage where the ways, what scientists understand now is there's a lot of things that happen in the brain that help you boost creativity.
So if you sleep and get enough REM, you'll be a more creative person, which I thought was really interesting when I read that book.
There's also a lot when you sleep that goes into memory formation and storage and your ability to recall information will be dramatically better if you're getting enough sleep.
So it affects everything and that's why I say it's the most underrated thing but culturally It's been one of those things where, you know, I'll sleep when I die.
You know, people think it's, you know, like a macho thing not to sleep.
Some of the Silicon Valley techs, you know, have been quoted saying, when I was younger, I used to down energy drinks to stay up all night and code, right?
And that's one of the things they regret now that they're older because they realize how important sleep is.
Well, I mean, it is.
You hear this, well, get up at, you know, go to bed late and get up early while you're not, while you're sleeping, others are working kind of thing.
Is it sort of like the analogy of the old, you know, woodsman who's out in the woods?
You had two woodsmen both out there.
One, they would start chopping.
And about every little while, one would take a few minutes to sharpen the saw and take a few minutes and then the other one never did.
And you can see the difference over time that the one who would take the moment to sharpen the saw, get the rest, was outdoing the one who never took the time to sharpen the saw, so to speak.
That's exactly right.
So if I'm productive and creative and I have my focus, my concentration because I'm sleeping well, and I work eight hours a day, I'm going to do a hell of a lot more than somebody who's not sleeping and working 12 hours a day.
My productivity is going to be through the roof.
I was going to say, one of the things that, you know, at Healthy Cell, we've got medical doctors, PhDs, nutritionists, dietitians that work with us.
And, you know, we aggregate a lot of this information about health and, you know, different spokes on the wheels we talked about.
One of the best blog articles we have is called, it's 12 Pro Tips for Better Sleep.
And if your listeners want to go to healthycell.com slash sleep tips, They can see our 12 Pro Tips for Better Sleep.
It is amazing.
If you have the willpower to follow even half of these tips, your sleep quality and duration will almost certainly go up.
Really important stuff.
Lifestyle changes you can make to improve your sleep.
Healthycell.com slash sleep tips.
Okay.
Also, for the folks who are listening to the podcast right now, we'll try to put those in our show notes as well when you come up and you'll take a look at that.
But healthycell.com is where the place to go as we get started.
I want to do one more before we get into actually your supplement side because you mentioned it and that's that stress reduction issue.
Yeah.
So stress is huge.
Yeah, it is.
Huge today, right?
Because of COVID especially, I think as a society, we've been experiencing more stress than we ever have, at least the non-World War II generation.
It's amazing.
I feel like social media and some of the things that are happening culturally from the digital age are adding to that even more.
People on Facebook seeing the tip of the iceberg of people's lives, but just the best parts of it, causing more stress, depression, people comparing themselves to other people.
And, you know, you have the Mayo Clinic, too, now that is stating chronic stress puts you at risk.
Many other top-notch medical institutions saying the same thing.
You know, cardiovascular disease going up, Alzheimer's going up from this immune system reduction from stress, which is incredibly important now because of COVID. Your inflammation goes up, which, again, affects...
Everything.
I mentioned a few of these things.
If you don't sleep right, you don't exercise, you don't eat, you don't reduce stress, all of those things cause inflammation, which then causes negative impacts everywhere.
All these spokes are connected through that center of the wheel.
Things you can do to reduce stress.
Diet, believe it or not, is related to stress.
Exercise, of course, is related to stress.
You're seeing more of the interconnectivity here.
Sleep is related to stress.
Meditation, music are two things you can do to reduce stress.
There's a...
There's certain types of music out there called Hemisync, where it's using different waves to kind of balance the brain, the brain waves inside the brain, bringing you more to the brain waves that will induce calmness.
That's pretty cool.
But meditation works really, really well.
Even if you do 10 minutes a day, I try to do 10 minutes a day, It's amazing what it can do for you, to ground you.
If you really have a problem, I would say go to counseling, but I think there are a lot of things you can do on your own first, before you get there.
Exactly.
Two things that have came up as constant, one thing that's come up as a constant theme, I want to hit it in just a second, but while you're listening, for that person out there who maybe listened to the podcast, driving, or they're walking right now, they're doing exercise, sleep.
Before they go to the article, what's the best thing The number one is probably routine.
If you go to bed at the same time every night, wake up at the same time every morning, your body will get used to that routine and teaching your body that routine is probably the most important thing.
There's also getting light exposure during the day but keeping it dark at night and removing that blue light.
Watching TV, Looking at your phone, some of the worst things you can do to disrupt your melatonin cycle.
So when your body tries to produce that hormone that tells your body to go to sleep at the same time every night, that's going to be impacted.
It's going to get all screwy if you're exposed to blue light.
If you have to watch TV at night, get a pair of blue blocker sunglasses.
They're out there.
There are a few different brands.
I would say go to one of the top-notch brands so you know it's really blocking the blue light.
And you can still watch your TV without getting too much of that blue light hitting your eyes.
Number two is keep your body temperature lower.
And there's a whole section on how to do that.
Number three is keep it quiet or white noise.
That's okay, too.
Drinking caffeine and alcohol, caffeine, certain people metabolize caffeine quicker than others.
I can't drink caffeine after 1pm, otherwise it keeps me up.
Some people can drink an espresso at 5 and go to sleep at 9, no issue.
Alcohol consumption, just go to bed with a BAC of zero.
You don't want to have any alcohol in your system when you go to bed.
Those are just a few.
There are several others.
How do people do that one right there, especially on weekends?
That one sounds like for a lot of people...
Every college kid that's listening to this podcast right now just probably, for the most part, just had an issue.
No, I hear that.
But it does affect.
I think people...
Because I think sometimes the effect of a glass of wine or beer or whatever, alcohol, whatever you drink, it has that effect of making you sleepy.
So some people think it's actually good for you.
That's not true, is it?
It's not.
If you have a blood alcohol level of zero by the time you go to bed, you're totally fine, right?
Having a glass or two of wine with dinner, beer...
As long as by the time you go to bed, you're down to zero, you're good.
If you do have alcohol in your system at night, studies show that it disrupts your sleep cycle.
You might sleep eight hours, but that sleep quality is very poor.
You're going to get much less REM sleep.
It's kind of tricky because you might think, I went to bed, I was buzzed, woke up, I had a great night's sleep.
You really didn't.
All those things that are supposed to be happening, memory formation, brain detoxification, creativity boosting processes that go on in the brain, they get all screwed up when there's alcohol in your blood system.
So...
It can be tricky.
It can be.
Well, we've hit the big spots.
We've hit diet, we've hit exercise, we've hit sleep, we've hit stress reduction.
One of the things, though, before we get into the supplements, and I want to talk about this because I want to give people action because I want them to come to Healthy Cell.
I want them to order this because I think it's just so good.
We're going to get into supplements here in just one second.
But you mentioned a word that came up several times, inflammation.
And it's come up in several of these...
Why is that a problem?
What does it mean?
You know, does it mean like I wake up some morning and my hands are, you know, stiff, you know, and I'm getting older.
I mean, I've played sports all my life.
I've been out there.
I bruised up, banged up.
What does that mean and what does it mean for the person to get healthy?
Yes.
So...
So inflammation can be tricky too.
So there's healthy inflammation, there's unhealthy inflammation.
When you bang your hand and you get some swelling, or you get a cut, it's infected, you get some swelling, that's healthy inflammation.
That's what your body does to start the repair process, the healing process.
What we're talking about is chronic inflammation, which...
Can damage cellular health.
Can cause your gene expression profiles to change.
And what I mean by that is you've got certain genes in your body and some are active and some are inactive.
When you're younger and as you age, there are different genes that start turning on and other genes that start turning off.
High levels of inflammation can start turning off good genes.
Turning on bad genes.
And that manifests in the body as different problems related to your health and quality of life.
So the chronic inflammation is what we're addressing.
All of these things, if done improperly, diet, exercise, sleep, will lead to chronic inflammation.
And some people that is an issue, especially if they're predisposed or they've had in their family arthritis, you know, those kind of issues like that, that inflammation, you know, you need to do things to help keep away from that.
That's right.
Absolutely.
I mean, inflammation is one of the big things.
When you don't reduce stress, your body produces cortisol basically.
Cortisol, it's called the stress hormone.
That can lead to more inflammation.
It's this cycle where if you're doing things correctly, It will be an upward spiral.
Things will get healthier all around.
If you don't do it correctly, it's a downward spiral.
It causes inflammation.
It causes more inflammation.
It's a vicious thing.
You want to get these things right and have the compounding effect be positive rather than negative.
Cortisol, isn't it also the one that they talk about keeping the fat around the belly?
I've heard that before.
That's right.
That's right, that's right.
More cortisol will give you more fat around the belly, that's right.
Alright, let's move into what Healthy Cell does to help in their part of this, which is the supplement phase.
Because we've already discussed, most don't get what they need through diet.
There's always a place for supplement.
For 7,500 years now, we've gotten vitamins through the pill, the pack pill, everything else.
Why is Healthy Cell different?
What do y'all do that helps in this process and explain why people need to understand that?
Sure.
I'll tell the story real quick.
In 2018, I ran across an ex-Pfizer food scientist, PhD, that was working out of University of New England labs at the time.
He said, Doug, fly up here.
I've got to show you what's going on with these tablets and capsules and powders.
And so he was putting them in test tubes of simulated stomach fluid, simulated gastric fluid, and showing me that they wouldn't dissolve.
Fully into the water.
They broke down.
They disintegrated.
And kind of created this layer of sandy material on the bottom of the test tube.
So he would take that sandy material out with a pipette, put it in a particle size analysis machine.
Very expensive equipment that was at the university there.
And he showed me that these particles were 10 to 100 times too big to fit through the small intestine.
Which is what needs to happen for them to get near bloodstream and then get new cells for them to actually have a positive impact on health.
So I said, wow, could this really be?
240 million Americans take these things every day and yet they're not absorbing most of what's in here.
Very small amounts of it would actually solubilize in water.
Solubilizing in water or in oil, just being able to dissolve and solubilize is one of the first steps that needs to happen before things can be absorbed.
Solubility is the gold standard surrogate for bioavailability.
So anyway, I said to him, interesting, if this is true, this is a huge problem that we can solve.
So I went over and I got the lab of...
Dr. Julian McClements at UMass, who is the world's expert on supplement absorption, supplement bioavailability, written many of the key papers on it.
I got one of the guys from his lab on the phone with my guy and said, Do you guys see the same thing in your lab?
They said, we concur.
We see the same thing in our lab.
So that's how I knew it was real.
We had a real problem.
And the solution that this ex-Pfizer food scientist came up with was an ingestible gel.
What they do is, during the production process, there are fat soluble nutrients and water soluble nutrients.
Fat-soluble nutrients, they dissolve in natural oils.
Water-soluble nutrients, they dissolve in water.
They bring those together and create an emulsion, which is basically a stabilized fluid substance so it didn't separate like oil and vinegar does, right?
Then that gets incorporated into a gel matrix.
And at the end of the day, it's a lot of science for saying you have a little gel pack, kind of like a goo energy gel that the runners and the cyclists take.
You tear off the top.
I don't know if you have one there, Doug, that you can hold up.
I will in just one second.
Okay.
But you tear off the top.
You either take it down right out of the gel pack, you can mix it in water, and you'll see it fully solubilized.
You'll see it almost like food coloring go into the water.
You can also mix it in a smoothie, mix it in yogurt.
There it is.
Okay.
So, it's a very convenient way to take things, just a better experience all around, pill-free.
You're going to get 165% more absorption than a tablet, and it's more natural.
We don't have binders, fillers, coatings, anti-caking agents, all this stuff that you find under the other ingredients label with supplements.
So, it's really the future.
I know, Doug, which products do you take now?
I do the regular vitamins that comes in.
My wife takes this vegan essentials and also I do the AC-11 and then you have a recall and memory.
That is really, I like as well, because it corresponds to some things that you can talk about here, how we regenerate our cells, which is really becoming a growth area for us.
So you take Bioactive Multi as the That will replace anyone's multivitamin.
It's a broad spectrum nutrient formula.
Vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and that will kind of fill all the gaps in the diet.
You also take Focus and Recall, which is a brain health product.
Also a nootropic, which is something that helps your brain perform better.
Interesting product because it has things that will help you focus within 30 minutes of taking it.
For the next few hours.
So it's got that immediate impact, but it's also got long-term brain health nutrients in it.
So it's kind of got that dual effect.
So we built this product.
It took us about a year after we did it to make it taste good naturally.
And now we've got five products on the market and it's taking over pills.
You know, 40% of Americans have issues swallowing pills.
So this is perfect for them, but it's also perfect for people who want to buy something that's actually going to be absorbed.
And what we find is that people are loving it right now.
Well, I think that's the issue.
Now, you also have the sleep aid that we didn't talk about as well.
And my wife has tried the sleep, and I'm possibly going to be trying it more.
But the sleep is something, you know, as we talked about how important sleep was.
Talk about that sleep gel as well.
So this is the sleep gel right here.
Sleep gel has a four-stage sleep cycle blend.
We put nutrients in here designed to support all four stages of the sleep cycle that we discussed earlier.
You're going to have things like melatonin, just one milligram, all you need, to help you transition into sleep mode.
You'll have other things like L-theanine, 5-HTP, lemon balm, GABA, magnesium.
These are all things that are going to help you get to sleep, stay asleep, sleep deep, and achieve that REM stage.
Because you don't go right to REM, right?
You've got to kind of go through the other stages first.
So it's one of the most powerful natural sleep product on the market right now.
It is good tasting, it's got a cherry flavor, and people tend to really swear by it.
There are certain conditions though, and we do find this.
For example, if you have severe insomnia or some other underlying medical condition that's keeping you from sleeping, this product will not help.
If you just need some help getting to sleep, but you don't have any major underlying condition, this product should help.
Yeah, is this REM sleep?
Because there's a lot of, you know, thoughts out there.
I mean, I know with people who, you know, the old adage on sleep medicine, you don't want to take it all the time.
It's an addictive, you know, some of the earlier was addictive kind of properties.
Is this something that can be taken all the time or just as needed?
What would the REM sleep be?
So, some people take it as needed.
Some people, if they're going through a little spell where they're just having trouble, a little bit restless at night, they'll take it as needed.
Other people will take it daily.
They're non-habit-forming, non-drug natural ingredients.
So these are things that if you need to take on a nightly basis, you can, although you don't have to.
When you look at this from a perspective of the bio, you know, the input here, you look at the idea of the Microgel, for someone who says, well, I can just go out here and for, you know, 20 bucks, 15 bucks, I just buy me a box of 90 pills, and why would I want to go to something like this?
You know, from the cost of it, we've talked about it a little bit, but you can't overemphasize the fact that most of what is coming in your vitamin pills is ending up not being used.
You're basically wasting money On something that's not really working.
It could be worse.
Some scientists believe, and there are a lot of papers out there now, that...
Hypothesize that these tiny granular particles, that fine, sandy material I talked about earlier, that's not being absorbed, can actually, as it's going through your system, can scratch the lining of your gut and actually cause inflammation in your gut.
So there's a group of scientists who believe that, and some of those scientists believe that the rise we have in IBD, IBS, These gut-related issues is on the rise right now, and there are some scientists who hypothesize the reason is from all the supplement taking in that form.
Can't prove that right now, but there's a lot of research going on in that area, which is troubling, interesting.
Most people don't know that.
Back to your question on the sleep.
You can go to the store and Buy a cheaper product that you're probably not going to absorb much of.
You can also buy seven, eight bottles of different things and take them all.
It's going to cost you more than if you get this product where it's all pre-solubilized in one gel pack, several ingredients that work synergistically to help you sleep.
And that's part of, too, the benefit of our products is I've got people that have 7, 8, 9 bottles in their pantry.
They clear them all out, throw them in the garbage, and just take one of our gel packs.
It's much more convenient, and they know they're getting more.
So I would compare one of our gel packs to a handful of Of pills, in that sense, it's more convenient.
There's more value.
There's a cost savings, even though our products are premium priced.
So they're about $49.95 per month's supply, about $44.95 on a monthly plan.
But your listeners with Collins get even more off.
They get 20% off their first order.
So they use code Collins at HealthyCell.com.
So yeah, your listeners have a better deal.
Well, and I think that's the important part.
One of the things I wanted to, when I endorse something, when I get into it, I wanted to use it, and we've been using it, and I can tell a difference.
I'm a little about a month, roughly, into a little over a month into it, and I can tell a difference, especially in some of the products, the Focus Recall product.
And also, you have the AC-11.
Talk to me.
I want to talk about it because there's a lot of other products out there on the line, but this AC-11 is an interesting product as well, isn't it?
Sure.
So the AC-11 is one of the only products we have in capsule form still.
And the reason why it doesn't need to be in a gel is this single nutrient is 100% water soluble.
So you can take this with Just a cup of water or anything really.
And it will solubilize.
So that doesn't need to be in a gel.
That product is very interesting.
There's been about 40 clinical studies on it.
It's been studied for over 20 years.
It's a patented product.
It's an extract that comes from the inner bark of the cat's claw plant that grows in the Peruvian Amazon.
And It's an interesting story.
They discovered it as they went down there and were looking at the crude teas that the natives that had these very healthy lives were living.
And they took that tea back to the lab, concentrated it, and figured out how to extract the inner bark and get rid of all of the other things that you don't want in there.
A lot of people don't know if you get normal cat's claw at the store.
It's typically just ground up cat's claw.
It's not a water-soluble extract and has a lot of what's called alkaloids in it, which can build up in your body and actually cause toxicity.
You just have to be careful with cat's claw extracts.
But this particular one does four things, according to the studies, that are powerful things that can impact aging.
So the first is DNA repair, cellular repair.
Helping your cells repair is critical to aging, critical to health.
The second thing is there are studies that show that it increases the lifespan of leukocytes, which is a white blood cell.
It's part of your immune system, so therefore impacting immunity.
The third thing is impact on inflammation, bringing that inflammation down.
The fourth thing is what's called apoptosis.
It's a complicated term.
Basically, it's just your body's process by which it kills off cells and gets rid of them, excretes them.
That are cells that are damaged and not functioning properly and affecting cells around them, making them unhealthier.
So you want to get rid of those, right?
So those are four powerful things, powerful functions as we age that we do want to happen in our body.
So AC-11, I mean, I take it every day.
It's a 350 milligram daily dosage.
If you're over 175 pounds...
You should probably take double that, so about 700 milligrams.
Or two.
It doesn't have any...
Do you take two?
Yeah, you said...
Yeah, that was the right one.
I thought you said two, because I'm over 200. I'm a little over 200. Okay.
But you look like you're pretty fit.
I mean, you look like a healthy 200. Yeah, I'm healthy.
I'm 6'4", too, so...
Okay, well, yeah.
200 is healthy at 6'4", right?
So, you know...
It's just one of those powerful, healthy aging nutrients that's got a lot of science behind it, a lot of data.
There's another clinical study going on with it now, looking at brain function.
Based on the early data, it looks really promising for brain function as well.
So we'll probably end up doing a bundle of the Focus Recall plus the AC-11 as the ultimate brain health package.
I believe it's the VA has done some studies with it on hearing loss for combat vets.
So I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but something related to DNA repair and hearing loss.
And so that's ongoing as well.
A lot of interesting stuff going on with that ingredient.
And it's not expensive.
That's a great thing.
I mean, it's $35, $30.
So it's really not very expensive.
Accessible.
Well, that is great.
Look, folks, this is one of the things that we've been talking about today.
Doug, you've hit on the diet, we've hit on the exercise, we've hit on the sleep, we've hit on the supplements, we've hit on the stress reduction, those kind of things in life.
That leads to a healthy lifestyle.
Supplements are a big part of that, mainly because of, frankly, our diets and the time.
If you put effort into each of these, it leads to a better quality of life, a better product.
I love what you said about if somebody is awake, ready to go eight hours, They can kick the rear end of those who are working 12 hours who are struggling through things.
And I think that's something that's really important because in today's society, you want to be at your best.
Looking at this, Doug Jampapa from Healthy Cell has been with us today.
Healthy Cell is a sponsor of this show.
They've been with us on our radio as well.
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I wanted you to do this show today to not only talk about all these elements of getting you healthy, getting you out there and exercising, working on your diet, cutting that 15% off, of your calorie intake, doing the things that get you where you can have that life that you want to have.
And one of the best ways also to supplement that is healthy cell.
And if you're out there saying, well, I take a vitamin, I'm fine.
Are you really doing it?
That's why I wanted to do this in-depth interview today because you need to get what you pay for.
Healthy cell, you get what you pay for.
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So Doug, thanks for being a part.
I want to come back probably in about six months and we'll talk a little bit more about how it's going with us and everything.
But you gave our listeners some great information today.
Thanks for taking some time with us.
Absolutely.
Thanks for having me on.
It's a pleasure.
It's an honor to be on the Doug Collins podcast.
Appreciate it, Doug.
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