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The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 02/19/23 - Dan Horowitz, Kyle Seraphin, Darren Beattie, Isabel Bongino

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	Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
	Thanks for tuning in to the podcast today.
	It's a special podcast we put together on the weekends for you to enjoy.
	It's going to highlight some of our best interviews from this week from the radio show.
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	First up today, we talk with Dan Horowitz, one of my favorite guests.
	He knows a lot about the vaccine and COVID.
	We address my conversation with Dr. Robert Malone, one of the men who was responsible for the mRNA technology, and the latest news about the dangers of the vaccine and the government now forcing it on children.
	Don't miss this interview.
	Let me welcome back to the show one of my favorite guests, senior editor at The Blaze.
	He's on Twitter at rmconservative, rmconservative.
	Dan Horowitz.
	Dan, welcome back to the show.
	Hey, great to be back with you, and you sound fine, Dan.
	Thank you, sir.
	I, I, yeah, I feel good.
	I had some surgery last week, but I feel fine.
	But you know what?
	I'm not fine about Dan.
	Um, I had Dr. Robert Malone on my podcast for a lengthy interview on Friday.
	Um, the show immediately went nuclear, probably our best Friday numbers in a long time.
	Uh, he scared me, Dan.
	Uh, this is a guy who's probably forgotten more about MRNA technology than most human beings know.
	Uh, you know who he is, you know him well, you have been a truth teller and spot on about COVID from the start.
	And his news was not very good, Dan.
	I asked him about it.
	He took the vaccine early.
	I told him I did as well.
	My cancer, you know, being just scared, it was a huge mistake I made.
	And I asked him, you know, do you think there's any hope for people like us?
	And, you know, the answer wasn't very good.
	Your thoughts on that?
	You know, I really hate this discussion, Dan, because it's tough.
	And it's important to note that nobody did anything wrong.
	I didn't have it on my bingo card that the government would poison us.
	Like, I did not have that on my list.
	You know, old man, we're glad we live in America.
	You know, you look for the FDA label on something and you always trust it.
	And, you know, I always did myself.
	But what's scary is that everything you and I have been talking about the last two years The macro numbers we're seeing seem to be accelerating.
	The excess deaths are accelerating, despite the fact that there aren't that many new people getting the shot.
	And what raises a lot of concerns is, um, there's this clip from Fauci saying that in 1999, when they wanted an HIV vaccine, he said, look, you know, you can get something out.
	It looks good at the beginning.
	And then all hell breaks loose 10 to 12 years later.
	Well, what happens if all hell broke loose immediately?
	Well, what does that pretend to for six years down the road?
	With all the autoantibodies circulating in your body, the concern of cancers, the concern of subclinical myocarditis, and I think what Dr. Malone and others have been talking about is the idea of mRNA was to code your body to produce whatever that is you need.
	It could be antibody, could be tissue repair or whatever they're working on.
	But the biggest thing we've learned is that there's no shutoff or modulator.
	It doesn't stay in your shoulder muscle.
	It goes to an unlimited number of locations for an unlimited amount of time in unlimited quantities.
	So the problem is this thing could be coding people we don't know how long and there's no shutoff.
	That's what's scary about this long term.
	I mean, I just saw in Ireland, the Irish Examiner reported that the last eight weeks they experienced a 42% increase in excess deaths over pre-pandemic and even 21% over 2020 and 2021.
	21% over 2020 and 2021.
	So that's very concerning that it's worse now than ever before.
	And this is all over the mainstream media now in America as well, sudden heart attacks on the rise.
	I mean, if it ain't this, then we better find out what it is.
	But the problem is, based on all of the studies we have, there's a v-safe and the mechanism of actions, it clearly is doing this.
	So the first thing you do is you stop digging and you take these off the market.
	But then, rather than doing that, They're on the market.
	They're making them annual shots.
	We still have mandates in some settings.
	And guess what?
	If you like mRNA, they got mRNA RSV and flu coming up just in a couple months.
	We're talking to Dan Horowitz.
	I strongly, strongly, strongly recommend you follow him on Twitter.
	He is at RM, like short for red meat, at RM conservative.
	Please go do it.
	Because if you would have followed him earlier, you and I would have been way ahead of this information and saved myself a lot of grief.
	Dan, another thing you just brought up.
	I haven't even got to question two yet.
	I had planned because you're always such a good interview.
	You said something really interesting there.
	That if these, and it's a possibility, if these mRNA vaccines have nothing to do with the excess deaths, it's a possibility.
	You and I actually believe in science.
	Then you would think, Dan, that there would be just a small level of curiosity from our government, like, hey, what's causing this?
	Is it vampires?
	Is it some kind of hantavirus that we don't know about?
	You would think.
	I mean, it's only government's, like, main role, life, liberty, and the, you know, protecting these God-given rights, right?
	And nobody seems remotely curious about the answer, maybe because they already know it.
	I mean, I just saw, I mean, this is from, you know, a local newspaper, was it KHON, as we're talking literally now in Honolulu, heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25 to 44 age group.
	And they kind of like talk about the, yeah, we don't know what it is.
	I mean, this is a big deal.
	And look, our entire movement are, you know, our hair is on fire over abortion.
	But let me say this about abortion.
	I'm against it.
	I think we should fight it.
	But at the end of the day, no one's forcing you to get it, right?
	I mean, and no doctor just says, hey, I think it's a good idea to terminate the pregnancy.
	Whereas here, A, we have mandates, but B, short of that, when this RSV shot comes out, every pediatrician is going to say every newborn needs to get this.
	After everything we know, this is the biggest life issue you could imagine.
	I mean, let me just say this.
	Michigan State University published a study extrapolating based on theirs and survey data mixed together by state that they believe after the first 11-12 months of the vaccine campaign, 278,000 people died in the United States.
	And I took those numbers and I said, OK, well, if you extrapolate the number of doses that were around December 2021 in the US, well, what about now and globally, where there's about 13 billion?
	And that comes out to be 7.5 billion jet deaths.
	And I have another way of proving that with CDC, VAERS, and V-safe, that it turns out 10.8 million people volunteered to report to CDC.
	We didn't know this until court documents released it.
	10.8 million people agreed to report injuries to their app, and aside from the fact that almost 8% had clinical-level injury, which is mind-blowing, and they knew this two years ago and didn't report it to the public, But it turns out only 1 in 26 of those people who self-volunteered to report to V-safe filled out a VAERS report.
	So that's an underreporting factor of 26.
	You take the 17,000 deaths that are in VAERS in the U.S.
	now, which in itself should shock your consciousness.
	I mean, I just saw Honda pulled, you know, a line of airbags based on the suspected 17 deaths.
	17,000, that would be about 440,000.
	American vaccine deaths.
	I mean, we could quibble with what number it is, but this is nuts.
	And I'll tell you, I can't find too many Republicans in state legislatures, I'm dealing with like 20 of them, that even care.
	No, it's weird.
	You're right.
	It's almost like this.
	It reminds me of Seligman's learned helplessness experiments.
	These unethical experiments they did with dogs where they would shock them on shock plates and chain them down so they couldn't get away.
	And eventually the dog would stop trying to escape the shock because they'd learned to be helpless.
	Like, that's our Republican Party now, outside of very few people, even remotely concerned.
	And Dr. Malone was on the podcast, Dan.
	I'm talking to Dan Horowitz.
	He's at rmconservative on Twitter.
	Please follow him if you want to stay ahead of this stuff with the vaccine.
	He made one particular point too.
	He said, We don't know why yet.
	Keep in mind, this is one of the world's preeminent scientists on this technology.
	But it has a particular affinity, this spike protein, for heart tissue and specifically components of the heart that regulate its variability.
	And even worse, he said that if there is damage done to that heart tissue, it's not like It's there forever.
	But Dan, you're wrong because Moderna's here to save the day.
	Guess what?
	and that scar is not going to be functional just like a skin scar.
	So it's probably made the analogy just the wrong way.
	That's troubling.
	But Dan, you're wrong because Moderna is here to save the day. Guess what?
	They have in the pipeline and MRNA to repair heart tissue.
	Oh, Jim, get on that. Jim, let's get someone on the show so we can move so we can make
	sure we get, we get the public service announcement out there. Are you
	kidding me?
	I mean, there's- No, Bantle was tweeting about it a couple weeks ago.
	They're bragging about it.
	And by the way, aside from the obvious insanity of the timing of that, which is very peculiar, I spoke with Dr. Ryan Cole about this, who's a pathologist, and I said, wait a minute.
	So heart tissue is a good thing.
	It's not like a spiked protein, which is bad, but even a good thing.
	There's nothing God created in your body that could be good in unlimited quantities.
	So I said, what happens if you produce unlimited tissue cells in an unlimited number of locations?
	He said, well, there's a word for that.
	It's called cancer.
	You know, when your machinery is hijacked to just produce an unlimited amount of, you know, reproduction.
	And this is that the conception of mRNA made sense to kind of say, hey, well, that's kind of cute to look at, but it's clearly not ready for prime time.
	No, and again, you just perfectly segued to my next question.
	Dr. Malone says in the interview that it wasn't ready for prime time.
	This was clearly rushed.
	But he makes the point that now the public health infrastructures around the world, not just in the United States, business titans too.
	I mean, I've had my own beef with this, the parent company here about this.
	They have so botched this mRNA rollout that Malone said that he believes that in the future there's applications for this.
	In other words, the old technology behind vaccines, you know, brewing it up in a chicken egg and all, it takes too long.
	So he said like if there was some kind of a military conflict and an emergency situation where we had to immunize immediately, Say a million of our military members against a warfare biological agent.
	He said that might be something where an emergency youth authorization mRNA vaccine could be applicable.
	But Dan, he made the point, he said, no one's going to touch this anymore.
	People would rather, some people would rather die than take this thing now.
	They have so screwed this thing up.
	But the problem is we still, in most red states, have not precluded any of what happened to us.
	The lockdowns, the shutdown of churches, the masking, and the mandates.
	I mean, Florida is really the only state where they're intending to ban it in hospitals, everywhere, public, private.
	This is never okay to force another human being to take a medical intervention. Most other red states, I
	mean, we still have people being fired for not masking in a hospital despite everything we know
	about this. So, you know, you might be able to say, hey, I don't want to take it, but there's a lot of
	people and a lot of jobs that are going to be vulnerable. You got the school children. And remember,
	you know, this one was more weighted towards seniors because everyone knew it affected more
	seniors, but the RSV shot, I mean, they're going to make that part of the childhood immunization
	schedule.
	I mean, it really is stunning.
	Dan, I only have a hard minute left, but your thoughts on this mask study that just thoroughly eviscerates the use of masking?
	It got 54 seconds.
	You know, we didn't even need a study.
	We just see reality of the last three years that it never worked anywhere.
	But this is the Cochran Library, very thorough, very well respected.
	78 studies, 11 RCTs, over 600,000 cold sample size.
	It doesn't work!
	The policies now need to reflect!
	That reality, it's not okay to take a rape victim and deny her medical care for not wearing a mask.
	You know, the policy has got to change.
	Dan, I want to get a promotion of your book in.
	I'm sorry.
	Is your book out?
	The Rise of the Fourth Reich?
	Is that out?
	On Monday.
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	Get on it now, folks.
	This guy's been a friend to the show.
	Follow him.
	You can find the book in the link at his Twitter account.
	He's at rmconservative.
	Dan, thank you so much for your time.
	We really appreciate it.
	We'll have you back.
	Take care.
	You got it.
	Folks, again, I just, I'm personally affected by this.
	So I do these segments because it affects me too.
	This vaccine and this mask thing.
	More on that after the break.
	That was Dan Horowitz on an extremely important topic surrounding the vaccine.
	Up next, we talk with former FBI agent, current whistleblower, Kyle Serafin about a crisis at the FBI.
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	Here's FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin talking about the latest overreach by the FBI investigating practicing Catholics.
	You don't want to miss this.
	I really believe this when I say it.
	I believe the country owes this man, even though he's very humble about it, a sincere debt of gratitude.
	I mean, he's almost been single-handedly responsible for exposing FBI malfeasance in a number of different fronts.
	Abuse of intel cases, targeting of parents, a collapse of the agency's inner morale.
	These are really important things.
	I mean, it's only the FBI, the federal government's most important law enforcement agency.
	Let's welcome back to the show, former FBI agent and now whistleblower and American patriot, Kyle Servant.
	Kyle, welcome back to the show.
	Hey Dan, how you doing, bud?
	I'm doing great.
	I watched you.
	I rarely stay up past 8 o'clock anymore, which is embarrassing.
	You know, you and I chat a lot, but you're probably like, why doesn't this guy answer my messages after 8?
	That's because I'm sleeping.
	But I stayed up to watch you on Tucker.
	I loved the clip so much.
	I played it on my show, even though you were a guest right before you came in and on the podcast today.
	And you got a hold, and let me just preface this by saying, a lot of now whistleblowers in the FBI are coming forward, they trust you, they know you're a man of dignity and honor, and they're bringing you a lot of information.
	Fair enough, you're getting a lot of stuff from a lot of people now, right?
	Yeah, I mean there's a pretty dedicated group of folks that have always seen the issues and they've got their eyes open and they're trying to do the right thing.
	And I'm a conduit for them, so absolutely.
	Okay, good.
	I just want to establish that.
	And you got your hands on a very disturbing FBI memo involving the targeting of what appears to be people who attend Latin Mass.
	Now, I don't know about you, Kyle, but that sounds to me like that would be potentially unconstitutional, using religious criteria to target people for investigation by the world's most powerful law enforcement agency.
	Give us the details on that.
	Yeah, that was, that was the essence of my disclosure to Congress that I went to, uh, I said, this is a possible first amendment violation.
	It's certainly a violation of FBI policy.
	And, uh, and, and the reason why is that, you know, the FBI is not allowed to pick winners and losers in the games of a first amendment speech or the practice of your religion or who you assemble with.
	Those are not allowed.
	Those are off limits.
	That's the whole point.
	The federal government is not supposed to have a stake in, Um, the outcomes, they're supposed to be part of the process.
	The process is if there's a threat, they're supposed to help try to mitigate it.
	But it doesn't matter whether the threat, you know, has any particular ideological bend.
	But this product that we got, which is a domain awareness product, it's a finished intelligence product, which means that it was probably peer reviewed, then signed off on by a supervisory intelligence analyst, and then sent up to the Richmond division, this was the specific office, The Richmond Division's Chief Division Counsel, who's the top attorney that calls balls and strikes on whether you can or can't go with something.
	And it all made it through every single one of those checks and balances.
	And it got published.
	Now, it made it to one of my whistleblower friends, who is in a totally different division, and took a look at this and went, this is out of bounds.
	Now, this person is not a Catholic, but is a Christian.
	and realizes that when you look at the ideological bend of the product,
	and people can go see it at uncovereddc.com, they can go see the piece I wrote,
	and then we included the source documents because that was the whole point. Daily Signal has written
	about it, National Review, a couple of others, Post Millennial has all done a piece on it,
	and that was the whole point. It's like, look, go draw your own conclusions. I know what an
	intelligence product is. I used to do this for a living, but not everybody does.
	So I gave my perspective and then they don't even have to look for my quote.
	It's already in my article.
	And what it's doing is it's talking about things like abortion rights and it's talking about LGBTQ agenda.
	And all of this kind of stuff are buzzwords to say that the writer is an ideological activist and not an unbalanced or rather an unbiased source of information that's just doing analysis. And I
	think the piece opened up and luckily the FBI is actually not only acknowledged that
	it was written, but that it was out of policy and they've withdrawn it at this
	point. It's been rescinded. But it was an open door to go after all
	Christians because the idea that abortion is wrong, or that we shouldn't be shoving
	LGBTQ rights down on everybody, is a pretty mainstream Christian
	belief.
	Whether you're evangelical, or Baptist, or Lutheran, or anything, it's not just Catholics, and it's certainly not just Catholics who like the Latin mass.
	I think they saw a fringe group and they tried to take advantage of it.
	We're talking to FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin.
	Please follow him on social media.
	Choose social and Twitter.
	He's at Kyle Serafin.
	Spelling is S-E-R-A-P-H-I-N.
	At Kyle Serafin.
	Give him a follow.
	Kyle, that's really great news that it was rescinded.
	Seriously.
	But I think the question is, how does a product like this, an intelligence product, as you just described it, a finished product in some respects, How does it make it through the inevitable multiple bureaucratic chains of a federal law enforcement agency you and I are all too familiar with?
	How does it and how does not one single person go, um...
	This memo saying we should target people in church?
	I don't think we can do that.
	There's this thing, I've heard of it once or twice, Kyle, like the First Amendment or other thing, something.
	That didn't, I mean, these are, the FBI, you've got to be pretty smart to get in there.
	You need a degree, three years of work experience, super competitive job.
	How did this happen?
	Well, you've got to be educated.
	I don't know if you've got to be smart.
	So we should be... Good point.
	Good point.
	Folks, he just summed up the stupid smart people problem.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	This is exactly the thing that you and I talked about on the first podcast, the first time we sat down.
	As an intelligence agency, you've got a bunch of people that are stupid smart people.
	That's where they are.
	All right?
	They're educated, but they're not necessarily street smart.
	And in my article that I wrote, I actually mentioned the fact that the person who wrote this obviously had you know, very high sounding rhetoric and very low
	experience with human beings, particularly people who went to the Latin mass. Now, I grew
	up learning Latin in fifth grade and sixth grade. I went all the way through high school. I went
	to a Cistercian school when I was in middle school. I went to Jesuit Catholic high
	schools when I was in, you know, going through So when you talk about the sort of the people that go to Latin masses, they're not white supremacists.
	I don't know if you've ever been around people who like that.
	That's not who they are, right?
	It just tells you that you have a low experience with human beings in the world and you probably never went and drove down to one of these Latin masses.
	But, you know, Intel analysts are indoor dogs.
	That's what they do.
	They're not like you and me.
	They're not outdoor dogs.
	They're out there meeting human beings and shaking hands and handing out business cards and investigating crimes.
	So they're out there trying to pick the winner and loser in this and the loser is supposed to be people who don't like their position on abortion.
	And their position is obviously much more ideological driven than it ought to be in a place like this.
	But the really, really scary part of this is...
	We talked about it slipping through all the defenses, all the checks.
	This intelligence product was sourced based on three individual sources.
	Number one, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	We can go on that for probably hours.
	But that was the primary source that identified who radical traditional Catholics are.
	Source number two, the Atlantic.
	You know, that stalwart right-leaning organization that supports American freedom.
	Reaganites!
	Die hard at the Atlantic!
	Reaganites all the way!
	Right?
	Right The scariest thing is, is that the Bureau's pulling it back, but they didn't say that they were disciplining these people, or re-educating them, or saying that this was a problem.
	They just got caught.
	And that's what we should be really honest about.
	It's what you and I talked about at the beginning, the first podcast.
	It's that there's this bend, and they're not trying to correct themselves.
	This is not a self-reflective agency.
	This is an agency that's full bore, and they just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar on this one.
	Yeah.
	No, I fear you're correct.
	I'm genuinely afraid.
	I've been talking to Kyle Serafin, FBI whistleblower and a real American patriot.
	You know, Kyle, I said before you came on, I'll say again, you're a humble guy.
	I know you're not looking for anybody's praise or anything like that.
	I get that.
	But I'm pretty convinced if you hadn't decided to make this bold life move and leave the FBI and say, you know, I'm not going to play this game anymore.
	I feel like I have an obligation to fix this place I left.
	I'm 100% convinced that none of this stuff would have been exposed and we'd be dealing with a massive coverup.
	I mean, think about it.
	The FBI, there's still been no accountability whatsoever for SpyGate or the collusion disaster.
	They still insist to this day that, you know, they opened it up on a strong pretext, which is insane.
	You know, the domestic terrorist thing was a total debacle.
	We got at best kind of a limited watered down mea culpa on that.
	I'm really concerned.
	I mean, I really think we need from the next presidential administration a really thorough house cleaning where they bring in everyone from the director down to the DAD to the SAC level and say, listen, are you committed to this thing we call the Constitution or are you committed to a political ideology?
	And if you can't answer that question lickety-split and show me evidence of this, your ass is out the door.
	I would go further than that.
	I'd say anybody above a GS-15 in the Bureau has to go, because none of these people have been throwing the flag, right?
	They've all seen this stuff.
	They all know it's out there, and I don't see any of them part of my groups.
	They're not out there crusading against it, and they would be a really powerful voice for change, because they have the authority, they have the time, they have the paycheck to back it up, and none of them are doing it.
	The people that are out there talking to me are GS-14s and below.
	So, I think every frontline supervisor probably has to interview whether or not their loyalty lays with the Constitution, and every 15 and above.
	My buddy Phil, who produces my little podcast, said, GS-15 and the FBI is someone who's never said no to a bad idea.
	And that's who we're talking about.
	We're talking about people, everyone above there, has never said no to a bad idea.
	They said yes, and then how much more can I get paid, and where do you want me to move, and who do you need me to step on?
	So, I mean, right now I'm like one guy with a small sword, you know, chopping at Godzilla's ankles, but I'm gonna try to make him bleed out anyway.
	Yeah, but it's working, man.
	It's working, brother.
	You're the only one who seems to be getting any action.
	You're the only one.
	I mean, I have not seen the FBI rescind a memo like this so fast.
	In years, I mean, and I've been following them with Spygate, the Russia hoax, the impeachment thing, all this stuff.
	I mean, you got on this story and within days this thing was gone.
	So you're making a difference.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I wanted to get a promotion for your podcast so people can support what you're doing.
	What's the name of it?
	Where can people find it?
	It's important that they listen to voices like you.
	All right, so my podcast is The Kyle Serafin Show, uninventively named by a good friend of mine, who told me he always wanted to make one.
	And they can search it on any other place they find podcasts.
	But if they do it on Apple specifically, I know if they even type in your name, mine comes up.
	But the algorithms have shown that I've been on your show enough times.
	It actually pops up right next to yours and guys like Glenn Beck and things like that.
	So they can just search it out, just my name.
	I'm very easy to find everywhere.
	I don't have a lot of creativity.
	I just put my name out on Twitter.
	No, it's a smart move.
	It's Kyle Serafin.
	I'll spell it out for you again, folks.
	Follow him on social media as well.
	Kyle, K-Y-L-E, common spelling.
	Serafin is S-E-R-A-P-H-I-N.
	So go to Apple, Spotify, elsewhere.
	Subscribe to that podcast today.
	It's super important that we support people that are supporting us.
	I know things about Kyle that you all don't know.
	And I mean that in a really awesome, incredible way.
	Like he's really, He didn't leave for like some million dollar payday.
	Thurston Howell didn't say, Lovey, I've got a check for you if you spill the beans on the FBI.
	This is a guy who's given up a lot for this and I think it's really important we support him.
	Kyle, unfortunately I gotta run.
	I was gonna say something else.
	Oh, oh!
	I took a note.
	Don't laugh at calling it the Kyle Serafin Show.
	The original name of my show was The Renegade Republican.
	And I was seeing a doctor one day, he's a really super smart guy, about one of my many medical maladies.
	And he said, you know, I love your show, but one thing I hate about it is, and I said, is?
	Is what?
	He said, the title's stupid.
	He said, Renegade Republican's a cool name and all.
	He said, but let me tell you something, brother.
	Always brand yourself.
	You change that to the Dan Bongino show on Monday or I'm not going to be your buddy anymore.
	And I changed it because of that.
	And the show and Kyle, the show took off right after that.
	Always brand yourself.
	You are the product and you're a damn good one.
	You're a Patriot and you've been a real hero.
	I got to run.
	Kyle, thanks a lot for coming on.
	You know, we'll have you back.
	Appreciate it.
	Thanks so much.
	You're a good friend.
	He's a good man, folks.
	That's a good man right there.
	The Kyle Serafin Show.
	Go check that out.
	Follow him on social media.
	I am not Jim.
	Have you, have you seen action by the FBI so fast on something in your life?
	Hey, uh, I think we should target a bunch of people who go to Latin mass.
	Bruh.
	Uh, I, hold on.
	I got an app on my phone, a constitution app.
	Let me look at that.
	No, Jim's got it right there.
	It says, hold on.
	They hold that up again, Jim.
	So I can read that.
	The pocket declaration of independence and constitution of the United States.
	Can you flip to I think there was amendments to the Constitution.
	They had a few, right, Jim?
	A couple in there?
	Does the first one mention anything about that, like freedom to go to church and religion and establishment of religion?
	Does it say that anywhere?
	It's the first part of the First Amendment.
	So in other words, it was like a real priority and nobody in the FBI caught?
	That's really weird.
	That was Kyle Serafin.
	Up next is journalist Darren Beattie, one of the few truth tellers out there about a number of different topics.
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	Here's Darren Beaty from Revolver News discussing the latest news from Seymour Hersh about the bombing of the Nord Stream Pipeline.
	Did the U.S.
	do it?
	Check this out.
	All right, so one of the guys we like to talk to, you know, when stories like this break, because we know he'll always tell the truth, is an actual journalist.
	His name is Darren Beattie.
	The website he runs is revolver.news.
	It's one of the best out there.
	Can't recommend it enough.
	Bookmark it.
	If you want honest news, want to welcome him back to the show.
	Darren, thanks for your time.
	We appreciate it.
	Thank you so much for having me again.
	Of course.
	Darren, you have been one of the few truth-tellers out there, whether it's the January 6th story, the bomber on January 6th, biolabs in Ukraine, Nord Stream.
	You're one of these guys who's been ahead of it, and if we're following your site, you probably got this story before Hearst dropped it yesterday.
	We were always suspicious, I assume you, me, and a bunch of other people, about this bombing of this Nord Stream pipeline, just because we used evidence.
	You know, Joe Biden had said he promised he had a plan to bomb the pipeline.
	Victoria Nuland had already made some public statements about it.
	But this Hearst story yesterday, if sourced properly, is an enormous bombshell.
	And yet, outside of you, me, and a couple others, it's been largely media silence on it.
	Absolutely.
	No, it's a completely explosive story with the highest of stakes.
	And just to kind of give a little bit of background, the Nord Stream 1 and 2, but in particular 2, these were critical pieces of infrastructure.
	Nord Stream 2 was not operational, but it was very close to being so.
	And what it was supposed to do is deliver Russian energy into Europe, which the United States national security community, in particular this Atlantis faction that I've covered extensively, that's Most closely associated with color revolutions in Eastern Europe, a methodology, a regime change methodology.
	Incidentally, they turned domestically and applied against Trump.
	But this Nord Stream 2 pipeline had always been a real sharp thorn in the side of this element of the national security establishment, because basically it undermined our leverage in Europe, it increased Russia's leverage in Europe, and it consummated this kind of complementarity between Germany's energy needs and Russia's economic needs.
	And so in the aftermath, kind of the immediate aftermath of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, something amazing happens.
	This pipeline, which the security establishment had been railing against, for years just explodes in the bottom of the Baltic. And
	amazingly, the stooges representing the New York, you know, it's not just about this.
	Generally speaking, it is remarkable how condescending our own government can be to us.
	They think we're complete idiots.
	Because the representatives of the regime went in front of cameras, and this is on both sides.
	Some Republicans were doing this too.
	And their position was, Russia blew up their own pipeline.
	Rubio said it, Darren.
	Rubio said it on CNN.
	He said it was common sense.
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	It's common sense that Russia blew up.
	Keep in mind, this is one of the most critical pieces of infrastructure that had been a prized project by Russia And that had been, again, the sharpest thorn deep in the side of the U.S.
	security establishment.
	In the aftermath of this, it blows up.
	There was no even attempt at any logical argument, such as to suggest how Russia could have benefited from sabotaging its own critical infrastructure at that moment.
	Zero attempt.
	Now, most thinking people would conclude that, OK, this is Either the U.S.
	or maybe the U.S.
	indirectly operating through some kind of proxy agent.
	We're not sure exactly what the arrangement was when some Polish official who's married to Anne Applebaum, I believe, who is a key figure in this sort of Atlanticist faction.
	He spoke too soon and maybe too openly.
	He immediately congratulated and thanked the United States, actually, for doing it.
	And then I guess someone told him, hey, we're not supposed to be out in the open.
	And so he deleted his tweet.
	But Joe Biden kind of intimated as much.
	He said, you know, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 is not going to be around anymore if Putin continues this.
	Victoria Nuland, whom I mentioned, who is a key figure in all kinds of operations in Europe.
	She was involved in the Euromaidan color revolution and so forth.
	She intimated as much as well.
	And then sure enough, this thing blows up.
	And up until then, I think most thinking people understand it's the US either directly or indirectly, but then enter
	Seymour Hirsch, this Pulitzer Prize winning journalist
	who has a history of reporting stories that are embarrassing to the US government.
	You know, going all the way back to Vietnam.
	And he publishes this highly detailed story that purports to give a direct operational account of what
	actually happened.
	And it's more explosive than even I would have imagined because it says it wasn't just a proxy.
	This was the US Navy doing it.
	And furthermore, the planning began before the invasion even took place.
	And that US Navy divers were recruited to plant explosives on the pipeline under the guise of some routine military exercise near the Baltics.
	And that this comes directly, you know, goes all the way to the top to the Biden White House, to Blinken, to Jake Sullivan, and to Victoria Nuland.
	And they were very much aware of the sensitivities at issue because This is very clearly an act of war, an attack on another country's piece of infrastructure like that.
	And I think it's important to note, if this is true, it wouldn't simply be an act of war against Russia.
	It would be an act of war against Germany, because the pipeline is just as much A piece of critical German infrastructure, as it is Russia.
	And I think that underscores, I think, an underexplored but very important sort of geopolitical dynamic going on in this Russia-Ukraine conflict.
	Because I think ordinarily we think of it as a kind of proxy war between the U.S.
	and Russia.
	But there's also a dynamic between the U.S.
	and Europe.
	And European leaders, including Macron, including Schultz, had kind of played footsie with this idea of strategic economy, meaning asserting more sovereignty in their geopolitical affairs.
	That notion blew up, just like the Nord Stream pipeline blew up at the bottom of the Baltic.
	For better or worse, has emphatically and unambiguously reasserted complete sovereignty over the geopolitical affairs and decision making of Europe, and in particular, Germany.
	To put matters simply and bluntly, we blew up their damn pipeline and they're not going to do a damn thing about it.
	So that's that's a pretty, pretty profound expression of geopolitical dominance.
	It is.
	We're talking to Darren Beattie.
	The website is revolver.news.
	One of the best.
	You should check it out.
	Follow him on social media as well.
	Darren, I got a few minutes left with you here and it's just sad I have to tell you this, but one of the ways I generally doing this and putting my shows together and researching, figure out if the story has teeth, it's obviously used evidence.
	Biden had suggested we had a plan to take out the pipeline.
	So when it blew up, it was pretty obvious I should look into that.
	But when the fact-checkers, and you're gonna snicker here, but when the fact-checkers immediately declared it a conspiracy theory, I do what I call, it's a very scientific thing, Darren, so I call it the dipsy-doo flipper-oo.
	When a fact-checker declares immediately something's a conspiracy theory and false, I know in fact, Darren, that it's almost absolutely true.
	So the minute the fact-checkers jumped on this and censored me on Facebook for suggesting we may have had a role, I knew there was something there.
	I mean, do you kind of work that same way with the flipperoo there?
	Absolutely.
	I don't know.
	It's not always dispositive, but it certainly reinforces one's initial intuitions on the matter.
	If the usual suspects are apoplectic and pointing at it and calling it, if it's a conspiracy theory, and if only you and me and maybe Tucker Carlson and a handful of others who cover these things, chances are there's probably a large degree of truth to it, if not completely true.
	It's so crazy, though, because the things you cover at Revolver.News, we're out of conspiracy theories, Darren, like nearly every one of them has just come true.
	It's a conspiracy, but they're not in any way theoretical.
	Let me get your take on this one last thing, an angle of this story that I've been hitting on in the last hour.
	Let me just give you a hypothetical.
	If Donald Trump's son was on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Ukraine being an enemy of Russia, and a Russian natural gas company, which was benefiting from a pipeline to Germany that bypassed Ukraine, was sabotaged by the United States while Donald Trump was in fact president, and then Donald Trump was on tape promising they had a plan to take the pipeline out.
	As an actual journalist, Darren, do you think the media would cover that as kind of a scandal or am I just grasping it?
	It's obviously a scandal, but again, it sort of, it even transcends these partisan lines, because one of the most emphatic detractors of the pipeline itself is actually Ted Cruz.
	Because again, it gets into energy politics, and all of the stakeholders in American liquid natural gas were obsessed with the issue too.
	There's one point at which Ted Cruz said basically, I'll abandon the rest of my legislative agenda if we can play hardball against Nord Stream 2.
	It's really deeply embedded within the national security community and underscores a dilemma for people on the right with what I mentioned about Ted Cruz.
	You know, in a way, you could say, you know, it's in America's interest.
	We want to support liquid natural gas, all things being equal.
	But the same Atlanticist faction that made the pipeline its obsession happens to be the same faction that launched a color revolution against Trump.
	and has actually played a huge role in the censorship of the internet.
	They're behind this whole disinformation scam that we've been hearing about for the last several years.
	So it underscores this weird conflict we have where, on the one hand, we want to support America's interest in national
	security, On the other hand, so many of the key stakeholders lobbying aggressively for these things are also the people most aggressively lobbying for the dispossession of American conservatives domestically.
	Yeah, that's such a good point.
	But Darren, you know, guys like you and ladies like Julie Kelly and Tucker, and I hope this show, you never praise yourself on the air.
	That'd be stupid.
	But no sacred cows, man.
	No sacred cows, brother.
	I don't care if you got an R or a D in front of your name.
	If you're part of the problem, then we're going to be part of the solution.
	So I'm glad you brought that up.
	That's an angle I'm going to look at for tomorrow's show.
	Darren Beattie, the website is revolver.news.
	Follow him on social media, but only if you want the truth.
	If you want BS, go to PolitiFact.
	Darren, thanks for your time.
	We appreciate it.
	Thank you so much.
	That was Darren Beatty.
	Up next, a very special guest.
	It's very personal.
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	Finally, here's my daughter, Isabel Bongino, and her efforts to raise money for a cause near and dear to our hearts, the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
	If you'd hear her out on this, I'd really appreciate it.
	All right, listen, I want to welcome a very special guest to the show.
	It's my daughter, my daughter Isabel, who I love very much.
	And we do this special thing we've done for the last three years, which is raise money for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
	Unfortunately, I had lymphoma.
	It kind of sucked.
	Definitely a two thumbs down.
	And Isabel has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars with the help of you, the audience, for this amazing organization, the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
	And I'd like to welcome her back to the show, Isabel Bongino.
	How are you, my dear?
	I'm good.
	How are you?
	How's school?
	It's going great.
	I have my chem lab in about two hours.
	Chem lab, chemistry lab.
	That's fun, right?
	Isn't that awesome?
	You love that?
	It's so great.
	We get to wear this, um, this cute little apron that goes down to my feet.
	Yeah.
	You love that, right?
	It's very, uh, now Jim suggests you maybe can learn some tricks and go out to Ohio, but that's for another story.
	So don't you worry about commenting on that one, sweetheart.
	Uh, but school's going well.
	You enjoying it so far?
	The audience wants to kind of an Isabel update.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I love school.
	College is going awesome.
	I love college.
	You do.
	You're like a big kid now.
	It's crazy to think, and I know I've told you this story as your dad a lot, that...
	I brought you home and used to throw you up in the air with one hand, and you used to love it.
	And I used to carry you with the onesie, like a kitten carries her cats by the nape, and you used to love it.
	And now you're a big kid, and I wonder where all the time went.
	But you and I, and primarily you, you've been raising money for the last two years for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
	I had lymphoma, and as you can attest to, to the audience, Isabelle, when someone in your family has cancer, you all have to live with it, right?
	Yeah.
	Two thumbs down.
	Two thumbs down.
	Oh, you give it two thumbs down too.
	So that's now four.
	I just want that on the record, Jim, on Yelp, four thumbs down for cancer.
	So you would agree with the assertion that cancer probably sucks, right?
	It's probably not a good thing.
	You're not, you're not cool with that.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Good.
	Definitely two thumbs down.
	Thank you to the audience last year for helping me to raise so much money and it, it was used to, Help LLS with research and aid and co-pay assistance for patients and urgent need programs and help with transportation costs.
	And this year, we are trying to expand on the children's initiative, the Dare to Dream Project.
	So, raising money just really means so much to me because I started participating in this program to honor my dad.
	And his battle with cancer really changed all of our lives.
	And we're so fortunate today that you are cancer-free, but there's so many people out there who are still battling leukemia and lymphoma, and I just want to be able to do my part to help them.
	Wow, you came prepared, Isabel.
	Gosh, even Jim's like blown away.
	Where do I donate?
	So Isabel, if the audience would like to help, we're talking to my daughter, Isabel Bongino, my firstborn, who I am extremely proud of.
	If you're watching me on Fox Nation, you can probably tell I'm looking away because I don't want to cry like a big wasp because I love my daughter and she's raised probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a half a million dollars.
	For really sick kids and adults with leukemia and lymphoma.
	The website, Isabel, it's spongino.com slash LLS, is that correct?
	That is correct.
	Bongino.com slash LLS.
	Folks, if you could help us and our daughter and my daughter, um, ours, me and my wife, obviously, that's one thing I don't share with everyone in the audience.
	Um, raise money.
	We'd appreciate it.
	How much did we raise last year?
	Do you remember?
	I don't know the exact number, but where was it?
	A little over $324,000.
	Wow.
	I knew it was a lot.
	Folks, Isabel, just a little background.
	You know, Isabel initially got started in this project because of me, and it was so successful in year one.
	I think, what did we do?
	$200,000 or $300,000 that year, $200,000 or $300,000.
	That she took up the mantle again.
	And then, uh, this year, even though she's at college and she's studying to be a doctor and is working and is traveling back and forth and volunteering and all this other stuff, she decided she was going to take this up again.
	So if you could help us, we would so deeply appreciate it.
	Um, Isabel, just briefly before I let you go, cause I know you got to get to your chemistry lab and do your thing in school.
	You know, this matters a lot to you, doesn't it?
	It does.
	It does matter a lot to me.
	Yeah.
	We lived through this and, you know, she would be sitting at home and I would come back
	after the chemo and my wife would drive me back.
	And, you know, you never want to see her.
	I got to let you go, sweetheart.
	I'm sorry.
	This is gonna break bad.
	All right, I'll call you in a little bit.
	Okay.
	Love you, babe.
	Thank you so much for letting me bring awareness to this issue, and happy Valentine's Day.
	Ah, you got it.
	That's my daughter.
	Always like a bundle of joy.
	It's hard, you know?
	When you, um...
	You know, when you get to, it's not like, it's just weird, cancer is just this like crazy thing, you know?
	You can't really see anything.
	It's not like, say, You know, advanced stage HIV or like things like shingles and stuff where you can look and you're like, wow, that sucks.
	You just look like you and nothing looks wrong.
	And you know, you hear from someone that you've got this, this fatal disease.
	And then, you know, your daughter, my daughter, who I just heard from, and you, the cancer patients out there, God bless you all.
	You got to come home after chemo and look at your kids and they see you in this just feeble, you know, kind of broken state.
	they load you up with these poisons and it kills the cancer, but it kills a lot of you too.
	And, you know, I'm just really proud of her for doing this every year.
	You know, she doesn't have to, and a lot of 19-year-olds, she was 18 and obviously 17 the year before, you know, good kids, but they got other things on their mind.
	It's no fault of their own.
	They're kids.
	We were all kids.
	But she wanted to do it.
	And she raised a ton of money.
	And let me tell you something, they do some really good work over there.
	The website, again, if you'd like to donate to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society is Bongino.com slash LLS.
	LLS.
	Bongino.com slash LLS.
	And I'll tell you, My story, when I was first diagnosed, you don't really know how bad it is.
	Is it stage one?
	Is it stage four?
	Is it systemic?
	Is it localized?
	Is it, you know, B-cell?
	Is it Hodgkin's?
	Is it non-Hodgkin's?
	And all of those have different survival rates.
	And one of the things that really hit me is when I was first diagnosed, It's just a whirlwind of stuff.
	You're getting appointments to have ports put in your chest, and you're getting chemo appointments, and you gotta do a lung function thing to make sure you can get chemo, and you gotta do an echocardiogram, and it's just doctor after doctor after doctor, and it's kind of this whirlwind.
	Any cancer patient can attest to what I'm telling you.
	And it doesn't even hit you that you have cancer, or it didn't hit me.
	Excuse me for the sniffling, folks.
	I'm sorry, you'll have to forgive me.
	I know it's not the greatest sound effect, but I'm having a tough time getting through this for obvious reasons.
	And then it was about five days after, maybe, I don't know, two weeks after the diagnosis.
	Again, it's all a whirlwind.
	I had had the tumor removed from my neck and I'm coming home and everything had slowed down.
	And I was on a plane with my wife headed back from New York because a doctor by the name of Bhuv Singh, who's an unbelievable surgeon, he is a head and neck specialist in cancer.
	I went up to Sloan Kettering because I wanted the best guy doing it.
	And he cut this tumor out of my neck and he got all of it.
	So I finally had some time on the way back on the plane after two weeks of this, again, whirlwind of stuff.
	And I'm on my phone and there's a guy next to me and he's sitting in the next aisle over.
	I'm in the aisle seat.
	So he's in the seat in front of me.
	So if he turns his neck, like I'm right there.
	And as he's getting on the plane, cause I sat before him, he gives me a look and I can tell that look.
	It's the, I watch Fox look, but I don't want to bother you look.
	I get it all the time.
	It's just nice.
	I appreciate it.
	They give me like a nod.
	So I get the nod and give him the nod back.
	And as we're flying, it's, I don't know, two and a half hour flight from New York.
	We're flying out of LaGuardia back to Palm Beach airport, where I live down here.
	About an hour into the flight, I start reading about, because we had gotten the diagnosis that it was Hodgkin's lymphoma, but it was stage one and I was feeling really good.
	So I started reading about it and something really hit me.
	It said the five year survivability rate is 80%.
	And they were like, wow, this is great.
	I mean, the tone of the website was 80%.
	Like eight out of 10 people make it five years.
	And I didn't see it that way.
	I read it the other way that 20 out of a hundred people die in five years.
	And I just lost it on the plane.
	I mean, lost it by waterworks, man.
	Like total waterworks.
	I couldn't hold it in.
	I just couldn't believe that I was at the time 46 years old and I might not see my daughter get married My, uh...
	May not see my youngest daughter.
	Might not even see her go to high school.
	[BLANK_AUDIO]
	And that guy, he saw me and he looked back and... These are, like, the hardest segments.
	And he just gave me kind of like a look, like... Like, I got you, buddy!
	I don't know, like I... Who knows if he's listening now.
	I appreciated that.
	But this Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, they do really good work.
	It's bongino.com slash LLS if you'd like to donate.
	And I'll just leave it here if I can get through this segment.
	This has been kind of tough for me.
	I went to MD Anderson later on for radiation and treatment out there, and it's an amazing cancer hospital, one of the best in the world, out in Houston, Texas, and they treated me like gold.
	It's an incredible place.
	The experience, considering everything I was going through, was amazing.
	But when I would go for radiation every day out there, you'd see these kids, they'd be wheeled in on a gurney.
	There's some of them 10, 11, 12 years old with advanced stages of leukemia.
	No hair on their bodies.
	Weak, frail, can barely move.
	And I always thought to myself, what are you complaining about?
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