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Nov. 15, 2019 - The Dan Bongino Show

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Interview 1: President Donald J. Trump (Ep 1112)

In this episode, I interview President Donald J. Trump. We cover the impeachment, the economy, election 2020, and more. Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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	Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
	Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show on this special Interview One episode day launch.
	I'm super excited.
	Producer Joe, my good friend.
	How are you today, sir?
	It's been a long journey for us both, you know.
	Yeah, I'm picking myself up off the floor, dude.
	I'm not not used to seeing you in a coat and tie like that, you know.
	I know, me either, but it is the President of the United States, and whereas I like to handle my show a little more casually, when it revolves the President of the United States, you got to put a tie on.
	It's the right thing to do.
	I did it for President Obama, President Bush, and President Trump.
	They deserve that respect, but thank you for noticing.
	My wife thinks it looks okay, so that's really all that matters.
	You know, it just, I don't know.
	It is a little weird, I know.
	It's weird.
	It's a little strange.
	It's a little weird.
	I totally get that, but thank you.
	Weird a little bit, right?
	That's perfect time for the drop, right?
	Folks, I'm really excited.
	We have President Trump coming up in just a minute.
	Just some administrative stuff.
	I'm gonna try to get to impeachment, the economy, the black vote, hopefully maybe even school choice, trade.
	Well, I'm gonna ask as many questions as I can.
	President's time is obviously limited.
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	Okay, Joe.
	Obviously an important moment for our show.
	Ladies and gentlemen, just some house cleaning.
	We're going to be doing this show.
	We're going to try to do it weekly.
	We're going to be launching a new interview series now.
	Obviously our first interview is the President coming right up.
	I will be announcing at the end, stay tuned, some additional guests coming up.
	I think you're going to be equally excited.
	It's hard to surpass the President of the United States.
	But again, we're going to try to get to the economy, impeachment, and even some other issues like Obamacare, school choice.
	We'll see.
	Ladies and gentlemen, My interview with the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
	I'd like to welcome to our first interview show, President Donald J. Trump.
	Mr. President, thank you so much.
	This is a tremendous honor.
	You've agreed to spend some time with us today.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, thank you very much, Dan.
	It's my honor.
	And Mr. President, I'd like to quickly just thank you also for supporting new media out there, digital media, podcasts.
	You've been very savvy on that front, obviously with the use of Twitter, and I really appreciate that.
	And I know a lot of conservative voices feel the same way, and they've asked me to express that thanks to you as well.
	Well, thank you, but you know, I have no choice because the media is so corrupt.
	I have no choice.
	It's really not something I'm doing for anybody.
	I guess I'm doing it for the people to get the word out because the Times and the Washington Post and every network is, as far as I'm concerned, they're corrupt.
	So we get the word out at least.
	I don't disagree, and this impeachment fiasco, farce, disaster going on on Capitol Hill seems to be indicative of that.
	I'd just like to hit this point first.
	We have, of course, some more testimony going on in the show today, because it is a show, and what I find interesting is this was all based on a fake whistleblower complaint about a transcript You and I can both read.
	Obviously, you were there.
	You don't need to read it.
	I've read the transcript.
	There is no illicit deal in there.
	There's no deal at all.
	And what I find fascinating is the deal that they say you made, Mr. President, keeps changing because it doesn't exist.
	First, it was for security aid that you delivered.
	Then it was for a White House meeting that never happened.
	And then it was for a public statement by the Ukrainian president.
	That they never made!
	Is this a little ridiculous, or am I reading this wrong?
	The whole thing is a disgrace to our country.
	In the meantime, they're not doing any work.
	We have one of the greatest trade deals ever made, and everybody wants it, including the Democrats.
	And Nancy Pelosi, it sits at her desk for months, and she hasn't been able to do it, the USMCA, and everybody's going to vote for it.
	Most Democrats.
	Our farmers need it, our manufacturers need it, the auto companies need it, and she doesn't do a thing with it.
	And this witch hunt is just incredible.
	You know, we went through the Mueller deal, and that fizzled out when he testified, and frankly, long before he testified, because there was no collusion.
	You know, we went through the whole Russia hoax, and you know that subject probably better than any human being in the world.
	You or a few other good friends, but that was terrible.
	And then this, I had about three days of rest, and then I had this thing hit me.
	Based on a perfect phone call with a very nice person who I think is going to do a good job.
	He won on corruption and he should be looking for corruption.
	That's how he won the race as they say it in Ukraine.
	Hopefully he'll have backing and he'll be able to do what he has to do because Ukraine has a tremendous reputation for corruption.
	Wanted to know why isn't Germany and why isn't France and UK and all of these European countries?
	Why aren't they giving?
	Why is it always the United States that's giving?
	And they're certainly it's much more important to them because they're essentially a wall between them and Russia.
	That's like a big wall.
	That's the ultimate wall.
	And they should be helping much more and instead it's the United States always the sucker.
	So it's one of those things, but we help them and we will help them, and I like the new president, and I very much liked and respected that last night he issued a very, very powerful statement that should have ended this witch hunt.
	And, you know, the witch hunt, which is, as you know, Dan, gone on long before I won the election.
	It was actually long before.
	And you go back to the insurance policy, you know, just in case I should win.
	Well, we're in the insurance policy phase right now with all of this nonsense.
	But so we have a it's an interesting time, but we're draining the swamp one by one.
	You look at Comey, he's gone.
	You look at McCabe and you look at all of these people, Strzok and his lover, Page.
	And Brennan, and you look at all of these people.
	And I'll tell you what I'm most looking forward to.
	I let our great Attorney General handle it, but what I'm most looking forward to is the IG report and the Bull Durham report.
	That's what I'm most looking forward to, those two things.
	Bull Durham.
	I like that.
	Appropriate nickname.
	John Durham has a great reputation, and I'm sure he's going to do a great job.
	I'm looking forward to that IG report as well.
	That leads into my second question here.
	So we know the collusion hoax was a total fiasco, and it was basically cover for the Democrats' admitted collusion with Russians.
	And that's not a mystery.
	They said they used Russian sources to attack you in your campaign.
	Absolutely.
	That's not a conspiracy theory.
	That's their own words.
	So it's kind of interesting how when the Mueller thing fizzled out just days later, this fake whistleblower complaint appeared.
	Do you think this is all, again, like the collusion hoax was cover for Democrat collusion with Russians, that this is cover for the Democrat collusion and the Biden collusion with these key Ukrainians?
	Just an effort to flip it onto you?
	Because this is just out of the blue, this came up.
	In fact, I remember one of our people walked in.
	Sir, did you ever have one of the lawyers White House lawyers who are doing a very good job.
	They walked in and they said, sir, did you ever have a conversation with the Ukrainian president?
	I said, yes, the new Ukrainian president.
	I actually had two conversations with him.
	I said, we just released the other one today and you saw that was milk toast also.
	I think you probably heard Devin Nunes did a great job, by the way.
	His opening remarks were great.
	But he just read that into the record because, as you know, Schiff didn't read what I said into the record.
	He made up a conversation and read that into the record.
	That was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in politics.
	And if he didn't have immunity, he'd be in jail for what he did.
	So that's the story.
	I mean, you know, when you hear about this whistleblower, you know, everyone in Washington knows who it is, by the way.
	You know, the whistleblower is no great secret.
	The fake news doesn't want to print it because if it was a reverse type whistleblower, they would have a lot different feeling.
	But the whistleblower, everybody knows who the whistleblower is.
	And has to be revealed.
	The whistleblower wrote a report which was mostly on the phone call that everybody now sees was a good call.
	That's why they switched.
	They never thought, Dan, that I was going to release that call.
	And I really had no choice because Adam Schiff made up a call.
	He said, the president said this, and then he made up a call.
	I think he's crazy, okay?
	I think he's a nutjob.
	And he's very corrupt.
	But he made up a call.
	First he either saw the letter or he didn't see it and did it first either way.
	He totally made up the call and in making up the call it sort of sounds familiar because the whistleblower also made up something that bore no relationship to the real call.
	So fortunately, the call was transcribed by experts and transcribed beautifully.
	And that was the call.
	When they saw what I released at the end, everything started going downhill because the call was a perfect call.
	Mark Levin said it.
	Greg Jarrett said it.
	You said it.
	A lot of very talented people said it.
	And if there was something wrong, they'd say that.
	But there was nothing wrong.
	There was nothing wrong with it, nor is there anything wrong with the first call that they just read into the record.
	But when I released the call, all hell broke loose on the Democrat side, including the fact that I've heard that Nancy Pelosi blasted them.
	She said, you can't impeach a man on this call.
	But she had already gone public because she had read and she had heard the whistleblower report, which was a fake report.
	So the whistleblower, Gave a fake or fraudulent, I'm not sure what you'd call it, gave a fraudulent report, a fake report, and based on that report they started this whole nonsense.
	But just to finish, the IG should have never turned that report in because the IG should have taken that report, it was all about the call, should have taken that report and gone and asked, I would have declassified, should have asked for the call.
	When he read the call he would have seen it was totally different than the A political operative whistleblower.
	And this thing shouldn't have even started.
	But the IG didn't do that.
	So let's talk about the IG.
	The IG didn't do that.
	The IG brought it directly to Congress.
	Let's get some publicity for himself.
	And he brought it directly.
	He should have seen the whistleblower report on the call.
	He should have then asked to see the call.
	And when he sees the call, he should have said, well, there's no case here.
	We also sent it to the Department of Justice after we received the whistleblower letter, and they called back and they said this is absolutely fine.
	Nothing inappropriate said.
	We got a perfect report on it.
	And just one other thing that nobody mentions, Dan, is that when I make calls to foreign leaders, I know there are many people on the line.
	I mean, with my knowledge, there are many people.
	There could be as many as 25 people, 20 people, 5 people, 2 people.
	But there are always people.
	Because, you know, you're talking to the leader of a foreign nation, and you even have a Prenti on the call, I think.
	You know, people in the State Department.
	And, you know, all good reasons, and probably some bad reasons, because we have some bad people, too.
	Really bad people.
	But I knew that Mike Pompeo was on the call, Secretary of State.
	I knew that other people were on the call.
	Fortunately, they transcribed the call.
	How would it be if they didn't transcribe this call?
	I would have been in trouble.
	I would have had all these guys lying about a call.
	I would have had a whistleblower that people would have believed.
	So if I got lucky that they had it transcribed, these are professional people.
	But if they didn't transcribe that call, I'd be at the mercy of people that are lying all over the place.
	But I know everybody's on the phone, Dan.
	So I know all these people.
	Who's gonna say something bad when I know there may be 25 people on the phone?
	It's so crazy.
	Yeah, that reminds me.
	Can you just put to bed a far-left conspiracy theory for a moment?
	The whistleblower's own complaint, the fake whistleblower.
	In the complaint, the whistleblower acknowledges that it's standard practice for a word-for-word transcript.
	In other words, what's in the transcript is what you said.
	Can you put to bed the conspiracy theory Adam Schiff and the lying Democrats are promoting?
	That there's some kind of secret transcript out there where you made this deal and it's not in the... This is... I'm embarrassed to have to ask you this.
	No, there's not.
	This is the transcribed version.
	And it's very accurately transcribed.
	I mean, that's exactly what I remember in the call.
	The whistleblower said it was accurately transcribed.
	He remembers it slightly differently.
	He shows up in his uniform for the first time ever.
	You have Vindman.
	You have all these characters.
	You know, these are people I never met.
	I never even met.
	I never even heard of these people.
	And they're either never Trumpers.
	Some were appointed by Obama.
	Or they could be never Trumpers.
	You know, look, we took out Bush, we took out Clinton, we took out Obama.
	So I end up with many, many years of a lot of bad people.
	Thousands and thousands of people.
	And that's what I inherit.
	And they don't have the good of the country at hand, unfortunately.
	But I watched this guy, and I heard this guy, and it's not appropriate, because... And he did, you know, he did call in.
	You ought to check this out.
	As I understand it, he called in because he had suggestions with the call.
	Not strong.
	And he wrote a letter somewhere.
	He had some suggestions of the call.
	They were pretty minor, as I understand it.
	And they were maybe accepted.
	You'll have to check that out.
	But, you know, now he goes like, oh, he didn't agree with the call.
	But he he actually wrote, I think, a letter to the White House counsel with some suggestions for the call.
	People should get that letter.
	They're very minor.
	Well, he should run for president if he has a disagreement with foreign policy.
	That's how the country works.
	I'm sure he'd do very well.
	He'd do very well.
	He'd do about as well as Swalwell does.
	You know, I watch this guy, Swalwell.
	He goes on all the time.
	He gets more airtime than anybody.
	And he ends up with zero.
	And then they put him right back on the networks.
	Even Fox puts him on, which is really a disgrace.
	But he goes right back on the networks and they start talking to him like he's a great expert.
	He got zero.
	That means he got no votes.
	That's almost impossible.
	Yeah, someone wrote me in once for president, Mr. President, so I got more votes than Swallow.
	I'll vote for you.
	I'll tell you what, you would beat in my book many, many, many of the people currently running.
	I'll take you any day.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'd like to just shift gears quickly.
	I don't want to monopolize your time here, but on the economy, your record's been outstanding.
	We've seen middle income growth, the middle class, in other words, for, you know, liberals are having a tough time with this with their economic conspiracy theories.
	Middle class income growth has surged.
	Far surpassed Obama, the date is clear.
	GDP growth is far surpassed Obama.
	Median middle income is up $5,000 in just three years of your presidency.
	It was only up $1,000 after eight years of Obama and the failed recovery.
	So my question is this, given 2020 is around the corner, is there another tax cut in the offing?
	Are we looking at that?
	And where do you stand on capital gains indexing?
	I know there's been some back and forth on that.
	If we get back the House, we're going to do a very big middle... We've already done one, a very big... We did pass the largest tax cut in the history of the country, bigger than Ronald Reagan's tax cut.
	But if we get back the House, we have to have the House, otherwise you can't get anything through Pelosi.
	For one thing, she doesn't work.
	She doesn't do anything.
	She can't even get the USMCA bill passed, okay?
	And every Democrat wants it.
	The Democrats, the Republicans, it's on her desk for three months.
	And she hasn't done anything on it.
	She can't get that.
	She's too interested in impeachment, although she looks very bad right now.
	I was going to say before, she was very angry when she read my phone call.
	She was given false information when she started this whole impeachment thing, and she's not happy about it right now because she's getting hammered.
	The economy is doing phenomenally well.
	We're going to, and that's despite the fact that we have a Federal Reserve, don't forget, that has interest rates that are too high.
	And Obama had zero interest rates, so we're much higher.
	He was at $9.75 for eight years.
	We're at $5,000, but when you add the tax benefit, it's $2,500.
	And then you add the regulation benefit, because I've gotten rid of more regulations than any president in history by far.
	Even if they were there for eight years or, in one case, more, No, we've gotten more than any other president.
	When you add that, that's another $2,000.
	So we're actually around $10,000, as opposed to $975,000.
	And our $10,000 is for two and a half years, a little more than two and a half years.
	That's a big difference.
	And for President Bush, it was $400 for eight years.
	Is there any chance of resurrecting the indexing capital gains, the inflation tax?
	Well, a lot of people like indexing, and it's a short-term boost, but it makes life very, very complicated for people.
	You have to go out and get appraisers every time you do something, every time you breathe.
	You know, a lot of people do like it.
	A lot of Republicans like it.
	It is a complex process for people.
	It's very difficult.
	It's something we're looking at.
	It's a tremendous initial boost.
	I mean, I could do something that would be pretty amazing with, but I want to do the right thing.
	We are looking at it as a possibility.
	It has its tremendous assets and it's got some liabilities there.
	Understood.
	Mr. President, you eliminated the disastrous individual mandate for Obamacare, which was excellent.
	Any talk after 2020, if there is hopefully a successful re-elect, of eliminating the other provisions of Obamacare?
	Community rating, guaranteed issue, and maybe replacing them with more market-friendly solutions, health savings accounts, income support for low-income folks.
	There's still, unfortunately, some remnants of Obamacare left that are disturbing the Well, what we've done by getting rid of the individual mandate, that's where you pay not to have insurance.
	I mean, you pay a lot of money for the privilege of not having to overpay for insurance.
	It was the worst provision in Obamacare.
	It was totally unconstitutional, but it escaped that.
	You know, it escaped it.
	And one of those things.
	But we got rid of the most important aspect of Obamacare.
	And frankly, if John McCain had raised his hand, Obamacare would be gone.
	What we have done in that very famous vote after campaigning for eight years to get rid of Obamacare.
	Remember, repeal and replace was his campaign.
	And then when he finally had a chance to repeal and replace at two o'clock in the morning, he says, thumbs down, but that's okay.
	It may work out just as well because We got rid of the individual mandate, which is such a big deal.
	It's really the essence of Obamacare.
	And then we've done something, I had a choice.
	Run it really well, and do that, knowing that some of the benefit inures to Obama, and that's the right thing to do, or run it really badly and have people go crazy about how bad Obamacare is.
	And Secretary Azar and Seema and all those people over there have done an unbelievable job of running it.
	And we've made it okay.
	We've made it acceptable.
	It's horrible, by the way, but we've made it very acceptable.
	Sometimes you'll hear people say, it's not bad.
	That's because of getting rid of the individual mandate.
	Somebody said, call it Trumpcare, fix it up a little bit more and do it.
	But what we're going to do is, because we've really done a good job of management of it, it's a disaster.
	But what we're going to do is, if we get the House back, we are going to have a much better version of Obamacare that's cheaper and, you know, just a much better version, but also much less expensive.
	Mr. President, and obviously I wish the best of health on everybody in our court system, you've successfully flipped the third circuit court with your last appointment.
	You've done a great job appointing conservative judges.
	If there were another Supreme Court opening, and again, I don't mean this any kind of macabre type of way, to come up and present itself, will you stick to your original list?
	You've had success with Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, who've really proved their worth so far.
	Does that original list still apply?
	Well, number one, I hope everyone's in great shape on the court.
	We want them all to live very long and powerful lives.
	You understand that?
	Because if I answer the question without putting that in, the fake news will just absolutely rip me.
	You understand?
	I want everybody to be happy and healthy on the court.
	But yes, I will stick to the list.
	One final question, Mr. President.
	You have made a concerted push, admirably so, for the black vote, a place the GOP has traditionally drastically and sadly underperformed for decades.
	I believe you're making a lot of headway.
	We've seen down in Florida, for instance, Governor DeSantis, who I know you supported, me as well, disclosure, he made a big push for school choice and did remarkably well amongst black female voters who obviously had an interest in this issue.
	What else?
	Do you have anything else planned for any further initiatives to recruit the black vote and do some outreach into a community we've traditionally done pretty poorly with?
	Well, I think I've done more for the African-American vote maybe than any other president in history.
	Criminal justice reform.
	That was me.
	Nobody else.
	They couldn't get it.
	Obama couldn't get it.
	Bush couldn't get it.
	Nobody could get it.
	And I got criminal justice reform.
	And I have conservatives and liberals in that deal.
	That was very bipartisan.
	And I got it done.
	Nobody could get it done.
	Nobody else would have been able to get it done, Dan, honestly.
	I mean, that was not easy.
	But we got criminal justice reform.
	Even Van Jones celebrated you for that one.
	That was a shocker.
	No, we had a lot of people celebrating that would not normally.
	And then two weeks later, they would say, we must replace our president, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
	But nevertheless, I had, you know, tremendous support on both sides.
	And we had some dissension also, but tremendous support.
	And that was really, it mostly affects the African-American community.
	I mean, they're the biggest beneficiaries and they're very happy about it.
	The other thing we've done with Tim Scott and some others is Opportunity Zones.
	It's the hottest thing there is in real estate practically.
	It's incredible how well you're going to see that.
	Millions of dollars is being put into locations that would not be invested in at all.
	Locations that were abandoned.
	And you'll see what's going on in Detroit and all over the country.
	We have thousands of opportunity zones.
	It's a big thing.
	And a lot of money.
	Now part of that is because the economy is so good.
	We have the best economy probably that we've ever had in history.
	So if it's all about the economy, stupid, you know, they call them, that's a, you know, I guess that was a Clinton quote.
	It's all about the economy, stupid.
	I guess I have to win because we have the best economy that we've ever had in the history of our country.
	And the other thing, as you know, is unemployment numbers for For black, Hispanic, Asian, but the unemployment numbers for the African-Americans are the, it's the best ever in history by far.
	We have the lowest unemployment in history.
	We have the best employment numbers in history for African-Americans.
	So I don't know, when I'm on the debate stage and I rattle those three things off, I would say that, you know, I just don't know how you get beaten.
	I think we're doing really well with African-American.
	We have tremendous support.
	Even Kanye West likes us and Jim Brown and so many people.
	Evander Holyfield and Herschel Walker.
	I mean, we have so many people.
	And so many people that you don't know.
	So many people that, you know, the criminal justice reform, Dan, was a very big thing.
	I think it really, people really, it opened up their eyes.
	Like Alice Johnson, she was in jail for 22 years for, you know, she did something bad.
	Uh, but it was not that kind of, I think she had another 20 years to serve and she's a phenomenal woman.
	And there are many people like that in prison right now, but she was in there for 22 years and for making a telephone call.
	And drugs were involved, but you know, it was really disproportionate.
	So we have many people like that, but it helps the African American, as you know, it helps the African American community far more so than any other community and Hispanic community too.
	And getting criminal justice reform passed was a very big thing.
	So I think people appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	Mr. President, thank you so much for your time.
	It's really been an honor to have you here on the Dan Bongino Show.
	I deeply appreciate it.
	Well, you know what, Dan, I just want to say it's an honor to have you as a friend and somebody that sees what... It's not even a question of a supporter.
	You tell right from wrong, and you did it from the first day I met you, and you're an incredible voice, and I don't know if you're a lawyer or not.
	Are you a lawyer, by the way?
	No, I'm an MBA student.
	Because whether you are a lawyer or not, you're better than any lawyer, okay?
	You're more effective than lawyers, so I just want to congratulate you.
	Thank you, sir.
	God bless you.
	Thank you very much.
	You're doing a fantastic job.
	Thank you very much, Dan.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, sir.
	Take care.
	Goodbye.
	Wow.
	So, Joe, what'd you think of that?
	Pretty broad stroke interview, covered a lot of different turf there.
	Nice job, and thanks to the President for being with us, you guys.
	You guys work well together.
	So, yeah.
	Amen.
	Good job there, Dan.
	Thank you.
	Thank you to the President for the kind words.
	Of course.
	Thank you, Joe.
	That was well done.
	I know you got to hear it there before everyone else.
	So we covered a lot of turf, ladies and gentlemen.
	As I said, just some really newsworthy comments on impeachment, on the economy.
	You heard about the upcoming push for tax cuts, asked about Obamacare.
	Definitely worth your time.
	A lot of news in there.
	On the other side of this also, I want to get to our upcoming interviews for our new interview show weekly that are going to be just as good.
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