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So this, I got a lot of stuff there.
I've got breaking news on a lawsuit that Jay Sekulow's group is filing against Comey that hopefully will reveal the big question we've been asking forever now on this show.
Yes?
Who is Charlie?
We actually had a show titled Who is Charlie?
We'll get to that later.
Very important stuff.
All right.
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That was quite an intro there, Joe.
Yes, that was fascinating.
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Yeah.
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So, um, our good friend, Bernie Sanders, you know, why, why do you talk about Bernie so much?
Ladies and gentlemen, because you can attribute the left-leaning lurch of the Democrat Party to as much of a fool as this guy is, largely to Bernie Sanders.
Remember, this was the party just, you know, gosh, 20 plus years ago in the Bill Clinton administration.
I'm losing track of time.
In the Clinton administration, they gave a speech, Bill Clinton, the era of big government's over!
The era of Bill Clinton saying the era of big government's over is now over!
That's over!
And you can attribute a lot of that to the success of this Whacko Bernie Sanders getting his message out there.
Bernie Sanders was on this ridiculous climate change like 22 hour telethon yesterday on CNN which luckily I don't think anybody watched because it was so rife with misinformation and gaslighting.
But Bernie Sanders was on yesterday doing what Bernie does well, propagating myths.
Here he is responding to a question from a woman in the audience who believes in, if I had to rank the biggest hoaxes, liberal hoaxes out there, socialism works, Climate change, global warming is real.
I'm not kidding.
You may think this is a dumb question by this lady, but liberals actually believe this.
I would rank this one number one.
That overpopulation is a big problem on planet Earth.
Play this cut.
Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years.
The planet cannot sustain this growth.
I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it's crucial to face.
Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact.
Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?
Well, Martha, the answer is yes.
And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.
And the Mexico City Agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions, or even get involved in birth control, to me is totally absurd.
So I think, especially in poor countries around the world, where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies.
And where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have.
Something I very, very strongly support.
Ooh, Captain Courageous there.
What?
Sorry, my IFB line here.
Hey!
I got people calling me here.
People call!
Again with the phone!
Folks, here's my problem with... So Bernie Sanders now wants to control the population, wants to engage in population control measures.
Folks, this is not a small deal.
I'm kind of like puzzled by this because this is one of those things you... Overpopulation myth.
Do you understand?
Because I want to pull this out to, you know, 30-40,000 feet here for a moment, if you wouldn't mind.
Yeah.
I've talked about this on the show repeatedly, as Joe knows, over the last, what, four or five years of podcasting and doing this and guest hosting on radio shows.
Do you understand the myth of overpopulation on planet Earth is the bedrock of a lot of poorly thought out, dangerous and deadly liberal policies?
Their commitment in the early days to Margaret Sanger-like eugenics, the founder of Planned Parenthood, their commitment to abortion at all costs as a sacrament, their commitment to land restrictions and energy restrictions policies are bedrocked in the idea when you pull it out to a bigger argument that the world is overpopulated.
Don't underestimate them.
I'm not kidding.
When you ever get a liberal that thinks they're educated, like Martha Redioff or whatever, and she's a teacher, which is frightening.
When you get them really talking, because I have.
I've had to debate them through my runs for office and through being an activist for as long as I have.
It will always come down to some kind of eugenics or overpopulation.
In other words, as Bernie says, it's the poor people.
We need to control them.
They should not proliferate.
It always comes down to that.
Always.
Every time.
Now, this is a myth, ladies and gentlemen.
It is one of the most pernicious myths, dangerous myths, and deadly myths in modern human history.
That the world is overpopulated and we're all gonna die.
Now, I wanna spend a whole bunch of time on this, but this is important.
It's why I pulled this specific clip out.
Everything comes down to the left, believing that the world is overpopulated.
I pulled a couple of pieces, and I found this one, even though it's from 2013.
It'll be in the show notes, by the way, and it's worth your time, from pop.org.
This is Population Research Institute.
It's dated October 1st, 2013.
It's debunking the myth of overpopulation, but it is worth your time.
Please, it's not very long.
It's in the show notes.
I'm going to hit a couple of points here that address the myth of overpopulation.
Myth number one about overpopulation.
We're running out of food!
We're all gonna die!
You're all gonna die!
There's no food!
Everybody is gonna starve!
There's no food!
Actually, that's not true.
From the pop.org piece here, check this out.
Here's the real reality, the hard facts on the ground, footnoted with the research, by the way, on what's actually going on with the world food supply.
Food, there isn't enough, quote.
Well, since the time of Malthus, Malthus is another one of these population bomb people, like Paul Ehrlich, who believes the world is overpopulated.
They were called Malthusians.
Since the time of Malthus in the early 1800s, doomsayers have gloomily predicted that mankind would outbreed its food supply, resulting in catastrophic famines, Joe.
We're all gonna die!
Oh gosh, Bernie!
Yet the world currently produces enough food, Joe, to feed 10 billion people.
Well, there are only 7 billion of us.
Now, this is 2013.
That is, with 7 billion human minds at work, we produce enough food for 10 billion human bodies.
Imagine how much food we could produce with 10 billion minds.
Folks, we are not The biggest problem we have in rich, wealthy, capitalist countries that have managed through total factor productivity to use their brain power to find new ways to farm, the biggest problem we have is not starvation, it's obesity!
We are eating ourselves to death!
Now, to be fair, to be honest is more appropriate.
Yes, there are famines that happen.
These famines are largely the result of human failures.
They are the result of governing failures.
They are not the result of the world being overpopulated.
We currently have enough food for 10 billion people.
We can feed 2 billion people more than exist on the planet right now with our current brain power.
So what Bernie's telling you in answering this, we gotta control the population!
WE NEED POPULATION CONTROL!
BIRTH CONTROL EVERYWHERE!
BIRTH CONTROL, HAND THEM OUT LIKE WEEDIES!
It's not true!
He's just making it up!
It's annoying!
He's just like, folks, you just don't know what you're talking about if you're going to insist the world is overpopulated, like Margaret or Martha, whatever her name is, ready up.
Number two, Joe, we're clearly running out of drinkable water.
Everybody's going to die of thirst.
Yeah, that's not true either, from the pop.org piece.
Thank God.
This is not enough fresh water for everyone.
Well, there is.
Since 1900, fresh water withdrawals, in other words, the production of usable water, Has increased much faster than the human population has increased.
Freshwater withdrawals have increased seven-fold since 1900, while the world population has increased only four-fold.
This suggests our ability to access usable water is increasing faster than population growth.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are not running out of water.
The supply of water around the globe does not change.
It changes forms from its liquid state, to ice, to its gaseous state, to steam.
Yes, there are parts of the world that at times have been parched.
It does not mean the world is overpopulated.
Again, I want to spend a ton of time on this.
It's the bedrock of the liberal stupidity you see out there.
I've got a bunch of stuff.
This lawsuit by ACLJ is going to blow the doors off this Comey stuff, by the way.
And no, it doesn't always mean they're going to be in handcuffs.
Don't mistake the two.
But here, finally, one final piece, because I believe this too.
And the reason I'm bringing this up and why it's such a sensitive topic to me, why I'm opening the show with it today after that dopey climate change panel, a seven hour long telethon on CNN yesterday, this matters to me for a reason.
If I may tell you a personal story for a minute, I was sitting in and I was not, I was never a liberal, but I was an independent in college and you know, you're in college and you know, the liberal pole is always there.
It's like a magnet.
Everybody's a liberal in college.
And I started to believe this overpopulation myth to the point where I was lecturing my mom about it.
Mom, the world is overpopulated.
We're all gonna die!
And my mom was like, we are?
And I remember telling her like, look, every problem is overpopulation.
Parking and all this other stuff.
I look back and I'm like, gosh, were you an idiot?
Like, how stupid were you?
True story though.
One day, Metropolitan Avenue in Queens, I'm in a pharmacy waiting, I was sick.
So I start leafing through a book.
And I think it was, I'm not sure, but I think it was Limbaugh's book.
And in there was this statistic I could not believe because I believed overpopulation was real.
It said that every human being on earth, I'm not sure if it was Limbaugh's book, so forgive me, but it was a conservative book.
And it said every human being on earth could fit in the state of Texas with the equivalent living area of the average apartment size in Europe.
Every human being on Earth.
So the whole rest of the planet could evacuate into Texas alone, and you could all have apartments with the equivalent living space of an average-sized apartment in Western Europe.
Doesn't sound overpopulated to me!
And there was another statistic from that population.org piece, which is not on the screen, but you'll see it in the piece if you read it, that every person on Earth right now, man, woman, and child, If we were to evenly space people out, there would be five acres between you and the next person.
You'd be like, hey!
Hey buddy!
Can you hear me?
Five acres to yourself before you would contact another human being.
You'd have to get hand signals and smoke signals.
I see you!
Folks, five acres, it's a pretty big amount of space.
The world is not overpopulated.
Stop telling people that.
It's not true.
And this is why I say, like, we have to debunk this stuff.
I got a very nice Facebook message from a woman this morning I responded to.
I tried to respond to something.
She said, you know, I appreciate your show because I was a liberal and I never, I believed all this stuff was true before.
This is what we do here.
It's just not true, ladies and gentlemen.
The world is not overpopulated.
Stop using it as an excuse, liberals, to engage in forced abortions, massive efforts to control, you know, birth control.
You want to buy birth control?
Buy birth control.
It's available anywhere.
It's out there like Tic Tacs.
But don't tell us that the government should get involved in massive population control measures.
We saw that in China with forced abortion, and it really hasn't worked out too well.
Speaking of obtuse Bernie Sanders, and thanks to Joe for processing these things, this is Bernie yesterday.
This is just, I mean, I'm sorry, because talking about Bernie is really, you lose brain cells by the moment discussing this guy.
Here's Bernie at a small little town hall he did yesterday.
And a baby starts crying in the middle of the event.
And Bernie just doesn't know what to do because he's so obtuse.
Check this out.
This is great.
In front of a TV camera.
I hear you correctly say that you have to cut your pills in half.
We can deep that down a little bit.
[Laughter]
Um...
[Laughter]
The baby starts crying!
The baby starts crying!
Can you keep that down?
Dad, like it's got a volume button.
Ma'am, ma'am, turn the volume on that thing down.
Whatever you're holding there that resembles a mini human.
I don't know what that is.
I heard it burping.
There was some emanations from its mouth, potentially from its other end.
Turn that thing down.
There's a clicker on the back.
Go to the back, open the onesie, turn the volume down on that.
I'm trying to give a speech about socialism and you got this wine machine over there.
Turn that thing down!
Come on!
This is a political rally!
We have these machines, they are loud, they fart all over the place, and they come to my rallies and they scream and yell while I'm talking about taking over the healthcare system.
Come on!
Turn the thing down!
Volume off!
Doesn't that thing have a mute button?
Sheesh!
Sheesh!
Put the mute button in!
Isn't there an app?
There's an app for that thing!
Turn the volume down!
Open the app!
Hit the mute button on that thing!
This guy is so out of touch!
He is so not relatable to anyone!
I don't get this!
I mean, listen, I don't like to do a lot of, because I don't want to waste your time, personal story.
But this matters.
I keep telling the story, this guy in the gym, friend of mine, he left, he had to move, but he's a good guy.
He was a personal trainer over there, we'd chat a lot.
He listened to Bernie on Joe Rogan's show, and he's like, well, the guy makes sense.
I was so disappointed.
I know he listens to the show, so shout out to my buddy.
I'm not knocking you, but he's like, oh, I sound like it makes sense.
I don't, I, honest to God, I'm not messing with you folks.
I don't get it.
This guy is the most unrelatable human being I've ever, and you know when he does that thing in a debate where he points when he wants to talk?
Hey, hey, what's the what?
When you run for office, the first thing they tell you is never use the finger point.
You can use the blade hand like I do, right?
Right, Paul?
I do the blade hand.
You never, people hate it when it reminds them of their third grade teacher.
Yeah.
Sister Ellen.
Yo, the little Daniel, put your pencil case back.
I said put the pencil case back.
Don't point.
Bernie.
Hey, Jake, Jake, I have a question.
I got that.
It is my turn.
It is my turn, Jake.
That baby machine, shut that thing down.
The baby.
Hey, you over there with that thing with the hair and the smelly stuff in the diaper, turn that thing off.
This guy's the most unrelatable dude I have ever seen in my life.
How are you?
19, 20, 21 years old, sitting there with your iPhone, whatever, your computer, your iMac, your AirBuds.
How are you watching this guy with the turn the volume down on the baby and like this guy relates to... I just, I don't get it.
It is one of the few times in this show, I will admit to you, that I'm being sincere, I do not get the appeal of this guy at all.
I really don't.
It's just so perplexing to me.
I have no idea what people find interesting about Bernie Sanders.
All right.
This is some troubling video.
Moving on.
I know I spent a lot of time, but it's important.
And the reason I said in the beginning still matters.
The leftward lurch of this party, you can largely attribute to this guy.
And if we don't start to dismantle the nonsense he's gaslighting people with, it's going to go farther left in the future, ladies and gentlemen.
We're going to be dealing with a really big problem.
Okay, so we were told during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings for the Supreme Court.
Remember, Joe, when Christine Blasey Ford, the professor, came up and put out this story with...
No evidence to back it up at all.
Matter of fact, counter evidence.
She had made all these claims that Brett Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her.
Produced zero evidence at all.
The story fell apart.
She couldn't even get the details of her own story correctly.
People she cited as witnesses came back later and gave different accounts of what happened.
Bottom line is there's no evidence what she accused Brett Kavanaugh of actually happened.
Well, a lot of us at the time, when Christine Blasey Ford came out and said what she said at that hearing to try and get Brett Kavanaugh not confirmed, to try to throw an obstacle in front of his Supreme Court confirmation.
A lot of us fairly questioned this and said, wait, this story doesn't make any sense.
There appears to be a different motivation.
Again, though, folks, speaking to the liberals, absolute inability to keep their mouths quiet on this stuff.
They can never do this.
I want to play a video in a second here.
This is Blasey Ford's lawyer, Deborah Katz.
Actually admitting what one of the real motivating factors for Blasey Ford speaking out against Brett Kavanaugh was.
This reminds me, Joe, liberals do this all the time.
The examples are Legion.
Remember Jonathan Gruber, the Obamacare architect?
He comes out with that video.
You basically are really too stupid to figure it out on your own, so that's what Obamacare was about.
We were all like, liberals can never, it is the fatal conceit, to quote Hayek.
It is the vision of the anointed, and they're the anointed ones, to quote Saul.
They believe they're so smart that it... Do you understand?
Like, they talk and they say these things afterwards and they admit their own malfeasance because they don't think it's malfeasance.
They think they're doing this in the public good.
And folks, to quote many great thinkers in the past, and to paraphrase him, who said similar lines along these lines, there is nothing more dangerous than the tyrant who's motivated by the fact that he believes he's helping you in your personal good.
There's nothing more dangerous than that.
Nothing.
These people believe they're helping you!
Gruber.
Katz.
Here's the video of Blasey Ford's lawyer, Christine Blasey Ford, basically admitting what the real motivation behind the disingenuous attack on Kavanaugh was.
Play the cut.
Aftermath of these hearings, I believe that Christine's testimony brought about more good than the harm misogynist Republicans caused by allowing Kavanaugh on the court.
We were going to have a conservative.
Elections have consequences.
but he will always have an asterisk next to his name.
When he takes a scalpel to Roe v. Wade, we will know who he is,
we know his character, and we know what motivates him.
And that is important.
It is important that we know, and that was part of what motivated Christine.
Folks, they can't keep quiet.
They cannot keep quiet.
Do you understand they think they're doing these things in the public good?
Personal attacks, taking your money, keeping kids out of quality schools.
That's why they go on and advertise.
What's a better way to explain this?
If you think you did something wrong, you know, you snuck into a movie theater and you're kind of embarrassed by it later on, you don't go on your podcast and advertise it, right?
Yeah.
But if you're a protester and you sneak into the movie theater to protest on behalf of Planned Parenthood, you're going to put the video all over the place because you think you're doing something in the public good when you're a liberal when typically you're not.
They advertise their own malfeasance because they don't think they did anything wrong.
Deborah Katz just admitted that her client, who was making potentially career-ending, serious sexual assault allegations against a man with a fine, impeccable reputation beforehand, that the reason they did it was because abortion legislation might be changed.
That has nothing to do with an allegation of sexual assault.
Nothing!
She's admitting it!
Just like Gruber, you're all too stupid to figure out your own healthcare.
They can't shut up!
She thinks she's doing the public a favor by accusing an innocent man of a grotesque sexual assault he didn't commit!
Folks, listen to it again.
She thinks she's doing the public a favor.
This is the fatal conceit, the knowledge problem with liberals.
They think they're so smart, and you're so stupid, that the ends will always justify the means by which they get there.
I have to accuse Brett Kavanaugh falsely of a sexual assault?
Humiliate him and his family and destroy his career?
That's fine!
To me it was never about that, it's just about abortion legislation.
That's why they advertise it!
I have to take away millions of Americans' healthcare, double and triple their deductibles?
A-OK.
No problem.
You guys are idiots.
You can't figure it out on your own.
I'm John Gruber, and I'll advertise later what I did, because I'm gonna clean the stain of your ignorance off our healthcare policy and fix it for you, because I'm so smart.
They cannot help themselves.
This was always about abortion policy.
This lawyer's not even embarrassed by that.
By the way, hat tip to the Daily Caller who put this out there.
I'm sorry, let me just pull this up quick.
I tweeted it, and I want to be sure I give proper attribution.
I don't like when I do that.
But she, I actually saw the, it's Mary Margaret Olahan, and she is, what's her Twitter handle?
At Mary Marg, O-L-O-H-A-N, who put out this video from the Daily Caller.
So nice job finding that.
And thanks to Joe and Paula for putting it out there.
They advertise it because they think they're helping the most dangerous kind of tyrant out there.
Now we know the real reason.
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Before I get to this Comey stuff, I want to discuss just quickly this article I saw on CNBC, which I'll have up in the show notes, because it's very, very dangerous for you, for your wallet.
For your business, and it portends a dangerous economic future for the United States.
Alan Greenspan, former Federal Reserve Chair, gave an interview yesterday, and he said, this is a Fred Imbert article at CNBC, it'll be in the show notes, Alan Greenspan says, quote, it's only a matter of time, end quote, before negative rates spread to the U.S.
What is he talking about?
Why does this matter to you?
And why would I be a little bit worried?
Think about what negative rates are.
Talk about negative interest rates.
Yeah.
So you know what a positive interest rates are.
Unfortunately, when negative interest rates get people sometimes get a little bit confused.
A positive interest rate is simple.
I lend money to Joe and I lend it to him at an interest rate based on his risk.
I know Joe lend money to Joe maybe 5% for a couple months.
Joe gives me back my money plus 5%.
That's as simple as that.
Yeah.
What's a negative interest rate?
A negative interest rate is when it goes in the other direction.
In other words, my money isn't making money as I lend it out.
My money's losing money as I lend it out.
If I gave Joe money at a coupon of negative 5% rate, Joe's gonna pay me back less money, 5% less money than I gave to him at the end of the time period.
Why are governments doing this, number one?
We're seeing this phenomenon around the world.
And a lot of... This is why I never trust economists.
I just... Well, I shouldn't say I never trust economists.
I don't trust economists that take themselves too seriously.
This was one of those things that was deemed impossible.
We'll never go to negative interest rates around the world.
Who would lend money to the government to get less money back later?
The answer is a whole lot of people, apparently.
Germany and others, we've seen negative interest rates.
Why do governments love these things?
Think about it.
It's very simple.
And why is this portend such a negative future for you if this comes here?
Governments love negative interest rates.
Think about the government's ability to lend money to its population and later on have to give them less money back.
Sounds kind of like a tax!
Yes, a tax!
Government issues a billion dollars in bonds, the public buys them up, the government gives back $900 million.
Keeps the difference.
Now, you may say, who would do that?
A lot of people are doing that because the risk they deemed with this global catastrophe we're looking at of debt is that they're going to lose everything.
So they're like, well, lose everything or just lose $100 million?
I'll take the $100 million loss.
But folks, why is this so dangerous for you?
Because some of you are thinking right now, economically savvy folks out there, who I have a smart audience, you're saying, all right, well, that's okay with me.
I mean, if the negative interest rates go negative, and by the way, that'll filter through to the banks, because remember, banks index their interest rates to a lot of government benchmarks.
So if the government goes negative, banks will too.
So a lot of you are saying, all right, no big deal.
I'll go do what they do in Japan.
There's a booming industry for one specific product in Japan because of negative interest rates.
What is it, Joe?
Safes.
I'm not kidding.
People go to the bank.
I'm going to take a lot of my money out.
Thank you.
I'm not getting a negative interest rate.
And they put the money in the safes where the money, by the way, if negative interest rates were to were to and granted the likelihood of this happening in the United States anytime soon is probably slim, but it could happen.
I want to warn you so you understand that money in the safe.
Is by default growing if everybody else's money isn't.
The buying power of your money goes up by doing nothing.
By rotting in your safe with negative interest rates because everybody else's buying power, money in the banks, is going down.
Now, you may say, okay, that doesn't sound too bad.
Well, no, no, no.
Time out.
T.O., time out on the field.
All right.
Folks, here's the problem.
With the growing and exploding digital economy, and rules we've seen in Europe on the transfer of high euro notes, so they want to ban transactions in these high-denomination euro notes, it's only a matter of time before the government figures out the safe scam, which isn't really a scam.
A safe, I mean the physical safe.
People taking their money out.
And says, you know what?
We're only going to conduct business and do business with people who conduct digital transactions.
Ladies and gentlemen, that means your cash is pretty much worthless unless it goes back in the bank and you can whip out your credit card.
And if it goes back in the bank, the government gets to tax it through negative interest rates, which is just, it's a Bernie Sanders wet dream.
This is what they want.
You see negative interest rates coming into the United States, run for the hills.
Get your safe and get your money quick.
This is a big deal.
You understand what I mean by the digital economy, right?
You won't be able to conduct cash transactions.
Who's going to take transactions in cash?
The landscaper?
Who?
The guy who owns the gutter cleaning company?
The guy who maintains the pool?
The local deli on the corner?
I mean, that may be it!
Your mortgage payments, your cell phone payments, all of it will be exclusively digital.
Next thing you know, they'll ban postal money orders, too.
Because they want your money in the bank.
Because governments love to borrow money and then pay back people less.
Be very careful about this stuff.
It's a big deal.
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Enough with negative interest rates.
They're out there now.
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Jay Sekulow was on Hannity last night, and they have a lawsuit going against Comey.
Now, I had covered this story a bit before, but I'm not going to repeat it exactly, given the breaking news, but it is worth you hearing again.
We asked the question a long time ago on the show, and then a couple weeks ago again, who is Charlie?
Yeah.
And I'll get to that text exchange in a minute.
It's a text exchange between Peter Stroke and Lisa Page, two FBI investigators, talking about this person they want to get into the White House, and it appears they're talking about a spying operation.
Before we do that, I want to put up this Paul Sperry piece, Real Clear Investigations, because this is how this relates to this whole story.
This is great.
In the show notes today, it's one of our top stories.
It's from July 22nd, 2019, but man, is it worth your time.
Justice Department watchdog has evidence Comey probed Trump on the sly.
Folks, the Comey thing.
Again, he seems to have skated any legal, sadly, legal penalties on the prior Comey IG report on his ridiculous behavior, but he has not skated a reputational harm or an indictment of his horrible behavior.
I know that doesn't matter to a lot of you, and I understand.
That's fine.
I get it.
We want to see real, tangible penalties for this as well.
Understood.
But Comey, the IG report on Comey was devastating because of one big principal reason.
Comey told the president repeatedly what, Joe?
He was not under investigation.
Yes, true.
He lied.
He lied repeatedly over and over to the president telling him he was not under investigation.
Now it not only appears that not only was the president under investigation, but the president was in fact the subject of a rogue intelligence operation where Jim Comey, who he says, well, we wouldn't talk about Literally spying on them.
It seems they were spying on people and putting spies inside the actual White House for the FBI.
This gets ugly.
Now, Jay Sekulow's lawsuit, he wants the communications between Comey and others about this one specific guy who this, I mean, you want to talk about six different levels of suspicious?
From the Paul Sperry piece, here's the guy they're talking about who they think may have been a spy inside the White House.
To talk about this guy named Anthony Ferrante, who was an FBI official.
Quote, in an unprecedented action, Jim Comey created a new FBI reserve position for Ferrante, enabling him to have an ongoing relationship with the FBI, retaining his clearances, and enabling him to come back to FBI headquarters, said a former National Security Council official who requested anonymity.
Get a load of this, folks.
Between the election in April of 2017, When Ferrante finally left the White House, keep in mind this guy's planted in the White House by the FBI, the Trump National Security Division, where he was planted, the Trump National Security Division supervisor was not allowed to get rid of Ferrante, he added, and Ferrante continued working in direct conflict with the no-contact policy between the White House and the Department of Justice.
Folks, this guy Ferrante is suspicious six different ways from Sunday.
So just to be clear what we're talking about, Sekulow files a lawsuit, we'll get to in a second, he wants the records about this guy Ferrante.
Ferrante, a special, special Joe, air quotes, special position is created for Ferrante inside the Trump White House by Jim Comey.
Conveniently, he has some cyber security experience, Ferrante.
We'll get to that in a second too.
And, you remember, and Ferrante can't be fired.
This is the dude, yeah.
Comey says, no, no, you guys can't fire this guy.
We're sticking this guy in the National Security Council.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Allegations have surfaced, credible ones now, that Ferrante's purpose there was not national security, but it was to spy on the Trump White House.
Think about and digest for a moment, please, what I just told you.
Now, you know, I think you brought this up almost a year ago.
We did.
Yes, we've been talking about this for a very long time.
Now, why is this a big deal?
Well, it's a big deal because there's a spy in the White House working for the FBI.
Obviously, in the Nelson Mons kind of moment.
Obviously.
But the story gets worse, ladies and gentlemen.
Ferrante leaves the FBI.
He leaves the FBI in this position where he's allegedly spying on the White House.
I mean, that makes Hoover look like a Boy Scout.
He leaves after working with the Obama administration, right after the allegations about the DNC being hacked by the Russians start to surface.
He had worked with the Obama administration on this, Presidential Directive No.
41.
The same guy who's allegedly spying, according to some reports, for the FBI and the Trump White House.
He worked on this.
I'll get to that in a second.
On July 26, President Obama signed Presidential Policy Directive 41.
It was about cybersecurity and response to cybersecurity incidents.
It was issued, this presidential directive by Obama, worked on in conjunction with Ferrante, following high-profile attacks such as the OPM breach and the recent breach of the DNC's email system.
Oh, isn't that special?
So allegations start to surface that the DNC has been hacked, possibly by the Russians, in collusion with the Trump administration.
Totally bogus, by the way.
And all of a sudden, this FBI guy works on the distribution and putting into place these policies and prescriptions in Presidential Protective Policy Directive No.
41.
You say, well, how do we know Ferrante worked on that?
Let's go to Ferrante!
Here's Ferrante's description.
A description of what Ferrante did.
Hat tip 279 for the underlining here.
Prior to joining FTI Consulting, which is where he left the FBI to go to do something even more incredible, I'll talk about it in a minute, Mr. Ferrante served as the Director for Cyber Incident Response at the National Security Council at the White House, where he coordinated U.S.
response to unfolding domestic and international cybersecurity issues.
Listen to this one.
Where'd my stuff go?
It disappeared.
Building on his extensive cybersecurity and incident response experience, he led the development and implementation of Presidential Policy Directive 41.
So let's just be clear on this.
The hoax starts to develop through Christopher Steele that Trump's colluding with the Russians around the summer, July or so, potentially earlier of 2016.
The information filters its way through our intelligence community in the D.C.
elites.
At the same time, the DNC is hacked.
They need to seek blame.
Obama issues a presidential directive.
Has this FBI agent Ferrante work on the implementation of this directive, who later leaves after Trump wins, to go and work inside the White House to allegedly spy on people
inside of the White House for Jim Comey who's running a rogue spying operation on Donald Trump who
they still are insisting colluded with the Russians based on a hoax to win the election. Amazingly
this guy Ferrante after he leaves the National Security Council in this special FBI position they
created and after working with the Obama team on this new directive in response to the hoax
about Trump collusion he goes to work for a company named FTI Consulting and
And FTI Consulting, Joe, what's one of their major contracts?
Ferrante's working there now.
Yeah.
Folks, you're never gonna believe this.
You may if you heard our Who Is Charlie show.
FDI Consulting goes to work for BuzzFeed.
Ferrante's working for FTI Consulting.
Yeah.
To verify the dossier even after the dossier's been debunked.
Do you believe this?
No.
So you have a guy who's allegedly spying according to multiple reports now.
The ACLJ will get to the bottom of this.
Spying on the Trump White House, who leaves the FBI, and then potentially takes that information to a private consulting firm hired by a news outlet to verify the document they used to start the spying that we now know is a hoax.
Now, to get back to who is Charlie, why is this a big deal?
Remember this text exchange between Peter Stroke and Lisa Page?
Peter Stroh, talking with Bill.
He's talking about his boss, Bill Priestep.
Do we want Joe to go with Evanina instead of Charlie for a variety of reasons?
This is, I think, from Conservative Treehouse.
Sorry, I screenshotted this a long time ago.
Page responds, hmm, not sure.
Would it be unusual to have show up again?
It's redacted there.
Maybe another agent from the team?
Stroke responds, or he's the CI guy.
Same, might make sense.
He can assess if there are any news questions or a different demeanor.
If Katie's husband is there, he can see if there are people we can develop for potential relationships.
Understand what's going on here.
They are talking about sending Charlie to the White House to spy.
And they're talking about developing assets in the White House to spy, including Katie's husband, who refers to Mike Pence as a former chief of staff.
Katie was the person who had worked for Peter Stroke in the FBI.
Her husband was Mike Pence's old chief of staff.
Do you understand what's going on here?
Who is Charlie?
Who is this Charlie person?
Charlie was and can be, C-I, can be a name, and it's spelled without an E at the end.
It could be a woman, could be a man, or it could be, we used to use it for a term referring to confidential informants, Charlie.
A generic name, you get what I'm saying?
Could be three things.
Could be a generic name for C-I, could be Charlie a man, or Charlie a woman.
Who is Charlie?
Who is this person they are trying to insert into the White House to spy on the President?
Does Ferrante know this?
Is it Ferrante?
Now, here's the ACLJ article.
This is important because Sekulow was on last night talking about this.
Folks, this is a big deal!
Exposing Jim Comey's covert operations and spies in the White House.
Jordan Sekulow, he just wrote this a month ago.
Now, I have this out there.
He was talking about it last night, this lawsuit.
This is up at Bongino.com.
I want you to check it out.
They want the communications between Jim Comey and others about this specific guy, Ferrante.
Why has this guy all of a sudden gotten suspiciously quiet about this?
Folks, this is the essence of the whole case here.
The fact that these people on the outside were running this rogue intelligence operation, spying on a White House.
How this isn't the biggest scandal in human history, I don't know.
I am honestly, I'm not sure why.
Even the leftist hack media.
The leftist media hacks have not glommed onto this story in an effort to at a minimum get clicks and make money and said, okay, it's long enough that Obama's out of office now, we can report on this by not hurting the Democrat Party too bad.
I always think of the David Dinkins effect in New York.
When David Dinkins was a mayor in New York, the liberal media in New York used to defend him all the time.
He was awful.
He was one of the worst mayors we had in the history of the city.
Then after Giuliani comes into office and cleans it up, even the liberal media in New York, the Daily News and others, had to admit how terrible Dinkins was because Giuliani had showed how the city could look if liberal David Dinkins wasn't in charge.
When does that point come where the media says, my gosh, this is serious?
You've got this guy Ferrante.
He works with Obama on a presidential directive in response to a hack that was alleged to be in conjunction with the Russians and the Trump team didn't happen.
That same guy is then inserted into the Trump National Security Council in a special position who then leaves to work for a private company that goes to work for BuzzFeed to verify the hoax dossier they were using to spy on the Trump team.
While an FBI agent and a lawyer are discussing inserting Charlie inside the White House, that it may look suspicious, and while they're talking about developing the spouse of one of their employees who works on Mike Pence's team to develop information or detect changes in demeanor, While we also found out that the January 6th Trump Tower briefing by Jim Comey wasn't a briefing at all, but part of Jim Comey's counterintelligence operation to float information to the president about the PP tape and others to gauge his response?
Something stinks.
And nobody in the media thinks this is a big deal?
Now, one more piece from this ACLJ thing.
Here's what's even crazier.
There's a woman that replaces Ferrante in this position at the National Security Council within the White House.
From the ACLJ piece.
To make matters worse, reports indicate that Ferrante was replaced in the White House by another FBI official, Jordan Ray Kelly.
Listen to this.
Process this slowly.
Jordan Ray Kelly signed security logs for Ferrante to enter the White House
While he was contracted by BuzzFeed It you did you catch that he
Yeah.
So Ferrante leaves to go work on the continued destruction of Donald Trump in the private sector, trying to verify the hoax dossier for FTI Consulting.
The woman who replaces him, Jordan Rae Kelly, in this spy position they're trying to work, signs Ferrante into the White House while he's working with BuzzFeed.
Folks, journalism is dead and buried.
It's not 6 feet under.
It's 24 feet under.
It is over.
Again, if you're not listening to this show and following Jeff Carlson and Chuck Ross and the other, Paul Sperry, used his piece, only fair to quote him, The Daily Caller, you understand you're missing all of this?
You're only missing the biggest story of our time.
Unbelievable.
Okay, let me get to one last piece.
I want to leave you on a bit of a lighter note because I know some of this is depressing, but again, I'm not giving up.
I'm sorry.
The story, if you want to give up, I know you don't.
I get a lot of your positive emails.
You're in this fight.
I'm in this fight for the long term, and if it takes a year, two years, or ten years to get justice, then that's it.
Then I'm in this fight.
I'm not giving this story up.
I'm sorry.
It is only the biggest scandal of our time, and I think our enemies, our political enemies, are hoping and praying for apathy right now, folks.
They're hoping people like me and Joe and you and the listeners out there go, ah, I'm tired of hearing about it enough.
I'm not tired.
I'll never be tired.
Okay, last night from the CNN 75-hour telethon on the global warming hoax, They had Andrew Yang on.
Now this guy worries me a little bit.
I gotta be honest with you.
I'm not into predictions game.
I'm not.
I just, I, I, I'm staying out of it.
But I gave you my analysis of the 2020 election and I call it the, you know, the, the, the bowling lane analysis.
There were only three lanes path to the nomination for 2020, only three.
There's the insider safe pick, kind of like a, to analogize it to Republicans, the Mitt Romney type pick, right?
There's the outsider pick.
You know, the Donald Trump pick.
And then there's the ideological, like, radical ideological pick.
The Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren types, right?
Those are the only three lanes.
Those lanes are occupied by people at the top, who the problem I think the Democrats are having right now in 2020, is those lanes are occupied by people that don't own their own brand.
So in other words, Joe Biden right now is the safe pick for the Democrats.
And by the way, he had a horrible incident on stage last night.
I don't mean to make any light of it.
He had like a blood vessel pop in his eye and his eye filled up with blood.
I'm not putting, it's kind of, it's, it's a little disturbing, so I'm not putting it on the show for the YouTube viewers out there, but you've seen it.
It's been all over the news, but, um, I'm serious.
I'm not, I don't mess around with people's health.
That's never funny, um, ever under any circumstances, but he had a blood vessel pop in his eye last night.
Um, it was, it was serious.
His eye like pulled up with blood, but That's not why he's not the safe pick.
I'm not a medical professional, but from what I've heard, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a medical catastrophe.
He's not the safe pick, Joe, because he can't get out of his own way.
Yeah.
The guy is a gaffe-tastic gaffe machine.
He just gaffes.
I mean, he's the Teddy Ruxpin of gaffes.
You stick a quarter in the guy and a gaffe comes out.
It's so great to be here in New Hampshire.
You're in Vermont, Joe.
It is so great to be here in Vermont.
The guy can't get out of his own way.
He's not the safe pick.
Then you have the ideological lane, Bernie Sanders.
The problem with the ideological lane is if you're going to be an ideologue, you better be genuine.
And neither him nor Elizabeth Warren are.
They're frauds.
Turn that volume down on that baby!
Bernie Sanders is a millionaire.
He rails against millionaires.
He's a fraud.
Elizabeth Warren's worth 12 million.
She's worth more than Bernie.
Yet she's another one of these socialist frauds, too.
So if you're going to own your brand, then own your brand.
You better live like a socialist if you're going to preach it for everyone else.
You better be the safe pick and say safe stuff if you're going to be the safe pick.
None of that's happening.
This is why this guy I'm going to play video of, Andrew Yang, worries me a little bit.
I'm not going to be dramatic, but... The outsider lane is populated by more frauds.
Buttigieg, total political insider.
Another phony.
You know, the outsider lane.
Who else is in that lane?
Beto.
Beto's a congressman who comes from a wealthy family.
He's not an outsider.
It's a total joke.
But this guy is a legitimate outsider, this guy Andrew Yang.
Now, having said that, his ideas are really dopey.
Universal basic income.
Let's pay people not to work.
Gee, you think that could be a problem if people wouldn't work then?
No, no, no, no problem at all.
But Yang came out and said something equally dopey on CNN.
Check out this clip of him talking about how we should all basically curb our meat eating.
No thanks.
Check this out.
Meat consumption, beef in particular, is a major driver of climate change.
Should Americans change their eating habits and eat less beef?
You know, the UN just released a study that said we're going to be okay if the vast majority of the world goes vegetarian immediately.
You guys see that?
So it's good for the environment, it's good for your health if you eat less meat.
Certainly meat is an extraordinarily expensive thing to produce from an environmental sustainability point of view.
So I think it would be healthy on both an individual and societal level for us to move in that direction.
But again, this is a country where there's a lot of individual autonomy and so you can't force people's eating choices on them.
All you can do is try and shape our system so that over time we evolve in a productive way.
The verdict is in.
Oh!
Bring on the ribeyes!
No, Andrew, no.
Now, to be fair to Andrew Yang, he throws in a little kind of caveat, you know, buyer beware at the end.
I'm not saying we should force people to, but we should shape, no, no, don't shape anything.
Bring on the ribeyes, bring on the porterhouses, bring on the chicken, bring on the lamb chops and the pork chops.
Listen, I love animals.
They're great.
I do.
I love the doggies.
Doggies!
I love the dogs.
I love animals.
They're great.
But the Lord gave us minion over animals, and they are food.
And I've got news for you.
There are cases we'd be food for them, too, if we didn't have firearms to protect ourselves.
The world is a really mean place, okay?
Let's not believe this.
I'm a Lord of the Flies, not a Swiss Family Robinson guy, okay?
Thank God we've got societal structures to keep the chaos intact.
But as Havelock Ellis once said in the most famous quote, I think of all time, civilization is a thin crust on a volcano, folks.
We eat Animals.
I was a vegetarian when I was younger.
Many of you don't know that for a very long time.
It was the most unhealthy I'd ever been in my entire life.
I don't buy that for a second that this vegetarian vegan lifestyle is the path forward.
Bring on the ribeyes.
Bring on the protein shakes.
Give me the milk.
Give me the eggs.
Give me the fish.
We are here to eat the animals.
I'm sorry, we eat animals.
It is essential.
You want the pythons?
Eat the- I'm like, look at these 22 inch pythons.
Remember Hulk Hogan?
You gotta eat meat.
Eat the meat.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
You gotta eat the meat.
So listen, Yang has done a decent job on that side as the outsider, but Andrew, I think it's a big mistake.
A lot of people in this country are going to the Outback or their local steakhouse, or if you have a lot of money, to Peter Luger's, and they want that ribeye steaming on the steak, fat and all tomorrow morning, and they don't want to hear lectures about how the government's going to poke and prod and try to, quote, shape people to not eat meat.
Put the tofu burger down and go get yourself a Five Guys.
Grilled onions, pickles, I eat two of those things.
I'm getting hungry.
I gotta eat something after this show, dude.
I know, me too.
I know, I have some chipotle in the fridge.
I usually get two.
Folks, one last thing, I know it shows, but for those of you who know me personally or listen to the show, I eat like a slob.
It's a little self-deprecating here, but it's true.
I'll vouch for that.
You have never seen a human being eat like... Joe, you've seen me eat, right?
You and I, yes.
No one in my body weight, very few people outside of competitive eaters eat as much.
I go to Chipotle and I get...
Two bowls, double rice, double chicken, and eat them both.
Last night, I wasn't that hungry, so I only ate one.
And when I go in there, it's funny, I go in with my wife, and I'm on the line, so it's me and Paula, or usually Paula goes first, because she gets stuff for the kids.
But when I go first, I say, let me get two bowls, double rice, double chicken, and Paula's with me, so they go to the next person.
And Paula's like, no, no, I'm not done.
And the guy's like, you just ordered for her.
I'm like, no, no, dude, that's mine.
She gets a separate bowl.
Those two bowls are for me.
And they always look at me like, huh?
Like, you're gonna eat that?
I'm like, oh yeah, no problem, dude.
I go to five guys.
I used to get three doubles.
Three!
And a large fry and eat the whole thing.
Dude!
Eat your meat!
Don't listen to Andrew Lang.
And Yang.
Sorry, forgive me.
Andrew Lang is one of my buddies.
He teaches.
Andrew Yang.
Do not listen to Andrew Yang.
Eat your meat.
Go get a ribeye today in honor of Andrew Yang.
Support our farmers and our bee producers.
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