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Matter of fact, I've got such a show for you today, I did something I never do.
I didn't even brief Joe before the show, right Joe?
Yeah.
Because I want Joe's, it's not a joke, I want Joe's honest reaction.
It is all now coming together finally, beautifully.
Don't go anywhere.
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Producer Joe, how are you today?
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Remember that?
Yeah.
No diggity, no doubt.
We are on it today.
A stunning new piece yesterday at the Epoch Times about George Papadopoulos and some folks reached out to me, you know who you are, and a couple other folks from the media reached out yesterday as well.
And it is now finally coming together just how devastating this thing was.
So don't go anywhere.
Let me get right to it.
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Ladies and gentlemen, let's go back to the August of 2016 text about the insurance policy.
The text from Peter Stroke, the lead investigator, to his girlfriend at the time, Lisa Page.
They are both senior FBI officials at the management level, one on the legal side, one on the investigative side.
They are having an extramarital affair with each other.
They are texting each other.
Their text messages are exposed on July 27th.
July 27th is when the Inspector General, essentially the internal affairs agent for the government, investigating what's going on with the Clinton email case, finds these emails and notifies Special Counsel Bob Mueller on July 27th.
Right.
On July 27th, Joe, follow me here, on July 27, 2016, just to be clear, the back-and-forth email exchanges and the text messages, one of them which was about an insurance policy, the insurance policy basically to get rid of Donald Trump.
Remember that text, folks?
Yeah.
These FBI agents are talking about insurance policy.
Nobody knew what the insurance policy was.
It now is all coming together thanks to the epic Times piece.
Pieces in the show notes today for you to read and follow along if you want to pick it up right now.
On July 27th of 2017, a number of critical things happened in this election.
The Inspector General, Joe, who is investigating FBI misdeeds in the Clinton investigation.
The Inspector General notifies Bob Mueller, we've got a problem.
These two people involved in the investigation, both of Hillary Clinton and of Donald Trump, are texting each other, here are the texts, and they are devastating.
They're talking about an insurance policy to get rid of Trump, how Trump is a, I can't even use the words because they're expletives, is a blank, is a D, they smell his reporters, excuse me, his followers, you could smell them in the Walmart.
These are devastating texts.
The Inspector General knows they got a problem and Bob Mueller figures it out too on July 27th.
Follow this timeline, it is absolutely critical.
Now, thanks to a good source I've had that's been, let's say, assisting for a while, Joe, a couple of other things happened on July 27th.
So July 27, 2017 is the day Bob Mueller figures out his lead investigator, In the Trump case is a dog, Peter Stroke.
He also figures out that they were the people deeply involved in the Hillary Clinton case and they are corrupted by these texts.
There's no way they can credibly testify.
Right.
Now, Joe, what else happens on July 27, 2017?
Think, buddy.
You and I have talked about this before.
Now, you're the producer.
It's not your job to keep these dates in your head.
But when I say it, I know you'll remember it.
Someone gets arrested on July 27, 2017 in a hurry-up arrest at Dulles Airport.
That would be Papa D!
Papa D!
George Papa D in a quickie arrest.
We're still not sure if there was an arrest warrant issued at the time.
It seems like it was a PC arrest, a probable cause arrest at Dulles Airport.
Why does that matter?
It matters on that day on July 27th because ladies and gentlemen having been a federal agent I'm telling you probable cause arrests in other words arrests not based on an arrest warrant.
The only way I can explain it to you is police officers make PC arrests all the time.
Right.
When a police officer sees a street fight between Joey Bag of Donuts and Bobby Bag of Donuts and he makes the arrest there's no arrest warrant.
They didn't go to a judge and talk about the fight and get an arrest warrant.
Why?
Because it was based on probable cause, what the officers saw in their presence.
Joe, are you tracking?
Big time, man.
I've said to you repeatedly, if you're a regular listener to the show, that on the federal agent side, not the local policing side, but on the federal side of the ledger, These PC arrests are extremely uncommon.
Judges don't like them.
The U.S.
Marshals Service doesn't like them.
They want the paperwork in advance if possible.
It's not illegal.
It is perfectly ethical, moral, and legal to make a PC arrest.
I'm simply telling you, Joe, and this is an important point, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm telling you from an insider's perspective.
It is simply unusual.
They don't like them.
It administratively complicates arrests.
Judges don't like them.
The predictability of the arrest goes out the window.
They would much rather have an arrest warrant in their hands in advance.
So would the Marshal Service.
Again, not illegal, not unethical.
But I'm telling you from experience, extremely uncommon.
Because in the federal side, you're not a patrol officer.
You don't just happen upon a crime as an FBI agent on the way home.
You copy, Joe?
That's not your job.
The police officers who, when I was with the NYPD, just happen to fall into observing a crime all the time.
You turn a corner on the street, a guy's robbing someone, you get in a foot pursuit, you arrest him.
There's no time to call a judge for a warrant.
That's not the way the federal system works.
You get a tip, you investigate the tip.
You present your investigative results to an assistant United States attorney, they draw up a complaint, an indictment is issued, an arrest warrant is issued, then you go get your guy.
That's how it works in the federal system.
Probable cause, hurry up arrests are extremely rare.
What was the hurry on July 27th to get Papadopoulos?
I'll get to that in a second.
I always say remember the names.
Joe, remember the date.
July 27th.
So we now have two things on July 27th.
We now have Bob Mueller, special counsel, witch-hunting Donald Trump, being notified that his lead investigators are corrupted.
There's a hurry-up arrest at the airport of George Papadopoulos.
Why the hurry?
You need to shut someone up?
A couple of other things happen on July 27th, and I can't thank this source enough.
This was brilliant.
Joe, don't you find it awfully convenient that the Republican members of the House that were investigating all of the malfeasance and misdeeds that went on in the FBI against Donald Trump and for Hillary Clinton in the shelving of her email case?
Do you know what?
I mean, Joe, just let me ask you a question.
You don't know the date in advance.
Based on the conversation we're having now, the House GOP issues an urgent call via letter for a special counsel to investigate the FBI.
What date do you think that happened on?
Let me just throw that out to you.
Would you say July 27th?
I was going to say that, Dan!
You took the words right out of my mouth, baby!
That's a great guess, Joe, and you'd be right!
Joe's right again.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
All of a sudden, on July 27th, Mueller finds out his team is corrupted, Papadopoulos gets hurried up arrest at the Dulles Airport on what we believe to be a PC arrest, very unusual, and the House GOP issues this urgent letter calling for a special counsel into misdeeds by the FBI during their Trump and Clinton investigations.
Oh, it gets better, Daddy-O.
Don't you go anywhere.
I can see the look on your face.
I'm pointing at him right now through our new high-tech video connection.
What else happens on July 27th?
Well, there's an interesting article that appears in Circa, which is a news-type, a newsy-type outfit.
I think a couple of people at The Hill and folks used to work there, but Circa's kind of like The Hill or Axios, Joe.
All right.
An article appears in Circa on July 27, 2017.
Oh, wow!
2017? Oh wow! What's that article about? Something we talked about during this
week's I think it was Monday or Tuesday show Joe.
The article is about a lead lawyer for the FBI who's in a lot of trouble, buddy.
A whole lot of trouble.
Let me read to you the headline of this piece from July 27th, 2017.
Exclusive!
A top FBI lawyer is allegedly under an investigation for leaking classified information to the media.
Who's that lawyer?
James Baker.
The guy we found out this week on Monday is under criminal investigation, but we found out July 27, 2017, didn't we?
2017 didn't we? All on the same day. Now let me read to you a quote from
I'm going to tie this all together.
Don't go anywhere.
This is from the July 27, 2017 Circa piece.
Three sources with knowledge of the investigation told Circa that James Baker is the top suspect in an ongoing leak investigation.
Circa has not been able to confirm the details of what national security information or material was allegedly leaked.
All this gets better, Joe.
A law enforcement official with knowledge of the internal investigation in the bureau told Circa the bureau is scouring for leakers and there's been a lot of investigations.
All these people out there, nothing's going on.
Trump's not doing anything.
Are you sure about that?
This was July 2-7 of 2017.
It gets better!
Skip to the next paragraph.
James Baker is a close confidant of former FBI director James Comey and recent media reports suggest he was reportedly advising the then FBI director on legal matters following private meetings the former director had in February with President Trump in the Oval Office.
Now does it kind of make sense why when I gave that viral speech at the Breakers a few months ago I kept telling you that the three-letter agency people are in a world of trouble because there's a paper trail?
Is it starting to come together?
James Baker, one of the head lawyers in the FBI, according to Circa's own report, not some right-wing outlet, a close confidant of Jim Comey, Deeply implicated in giving Comey legal advice.
Legal advice on his conversations and the memos he drafted on his conversations with Trump was being investigated for criminal leaks.
Criminal leaks!
Conveniently, someone leaks this to Circa on July 27th of 2017.
Now some of you more entrepreneurial types out there who've been following this case
from the beginning may be putting together what's happening here.
If you haven't, no worries.
I get it.
You know, you all have jobs.
You work for a living and you work hard.
You don't have time to study every detail of this.
My job is to do it for you, though.
And I'm honored to fit that role.
Folks, it's clear as day.
July 2017.
2017 is the day that this political civil war within the government, the spark was lit and the dynamite went off.
My guess is what happened on July 27th, 2017, is that the administration and people got on the inside figured something out quickly.
They figured out that the spying operation into Donald Trump was an effort to flip sources to get them to work while Donald Trump was president.
Who was that person they likely tried to flip that right around July of the time this probably all came together?
Well, you know what, let me say this Joe.
It probably came together long before July 27, 2017.
27, 2017. The July 27, 2017 date matters though because clearly at that point the IG,
the Inspector General investigating this whole team, had figured out that the two lead investigators
by that time he had figured out they were corrupted and decided it was time to notify Mueller.
Someone in the administration likely figured out that Mueller was then going to double down.
Mueller was then going to try to cover their tracks.
Someone in the Trump administration likely figured out they were going to have to get ahead of this narrative, Joe.
That the bureau and the special counsel were going to work to try to clean up the mess.
What's the mess, Joe?
And if it doesn't make sense, please stop me.
The mess is clear.
They were trying to flip Papadopoulos, the FBI, as an insurance policy, hoping he got an appointment within the Trump administration to use a spy on Donald Trump and an embed while he was president of the United States and the plan completely blew up.
That's going to be part two of this.
Oh, dude.
You get where I'm going with this?
Yeah, man.
The inspector general sees the text.
He knows what's going on.
Somebody in the administration figures out now Mueller's going to find out.
They're going to tell Mueller on July 27.
Hey, buddy, your two lead guys investigating this thing.
I'm assuming, excuse me, your lead guy and his girlfriend texted the whole plan to flip a spy inside the Trump administration.
You better figure this thing out.
Mueller panics.
What do they do?
The guy they were trying to flip is Papadopoulos.
This epic times piece, you've got to read it.
Wow.
It's illuminating.
The whole scam gets exposed on the 27th.
They know about it in advance.
Please tell me you're tracking.
With you.
They rush to the airport to pick up Papadopoulos to arrest him to shut him up.
They engage in a PC last minute arrest with no warrant.
They bring him in at something like 1.45 a.m.
the following calendar day, which almost never happens unless it's an emergency situation or a violent crime.
The marshals don't want to see you at 1.45 in the morning.
There's not even a sitting magistrate judge to do the initial hearing at that time.
Unless it's an emergency.
Something happened.
What happened is their entire scam to flip a spy to get an informant within the Trump administration.
That person, I believe being Papadopoulos, was completely exposed.
Mueller knew it and they panicked.
The administration, the Trump administration, knows the Mueller team is going to panic.
And to get out ahead of them, somebody leaks to the media, notably Circa at that time, that the FBI's lead lawyer, who was advising Jim Comey this entire time, that the FBI lawyer himself is under investigation for criminal leaks himself.
A criminal leak conspiracy to the media to, again, gaslight the public to prepare them for the fact that they want to impeach Trump on false information.
I didn't explain that well enough.
The whole strategy, because they didn't have a collusion conspiracy, they only had a collusion fairytale, was to get the fairytale out into the media and embed it into the public psyche.
So much so, Joe, that the public pressure built for impeachment before the fact that the story was fake was exposed.
In other words, tell the story that Joe Armacost is an alien so many times through the media and the public that by the time it's exposed that Joe is in fact a human being, it doesn't matter.
They've been gaslit already and Joe's already in jail or in Trump's case impeached.
So the Trump team, someone in there, I'm not sure how much of this Trump even knew by the way, but someone within the Trump administration leaks out to the media via Circa on July 27 to prepare the public for the fact that these guys are frauds, their story's been a lie, that this guy Baker's under criminal investigation for felony leaks to the media.
Do you see what's happening here, Joe?
July 27th is the spark.
Somebody lights the fuse for the stick of dynamite that is going to go off on July 27th.
They know it and it becomes a back and forth tit for tat.
Mueller goes and has Papadopoulos locked up at the airport on a rushed PC arrest to shut him up because he doesn't want Papadopoulos talking about the efforts to flip him to get him to work against the Trump administration.
Why not, Joe?
Obviously because the Democrats and the liberal media don't want the story out there that they tried to recruit a spy to work in the Trump administration for a sitting president based on a false story.
Is this incredible?
The same day the House GOP investigating this, the Republicans who've been read in on this, who know the whole story, Joe, that they tried to flip Papadopoulos, the bureau that is, Calls for a second special counsel to look into this.
This cannot be a coincidence.
No.
The leak, the Papadopoulos arrest, and the House GOP calling for a second special counsel, this is not a coincidence.
This is all on the same day.
This is the day the stuff hits the fan.
Clearly, people who were not read in on the backstory here are failing to put this together and I want to really applaud a couple of the folks out there who've been amazing who have been doing a lot of this stuff as well.
You know, it's a whole bunch of stuff going on that all comes together here, Dan, but on top of that, it's almost surreal because this isn't supposed to happen in the United States, and it's really, really hard to grasp, man.
I mean, really.
This is supposed to be a constitutional republic, Joe.
This is supposed to be a country that respects big R God-given rights.
Yes.
That's not what happened here.
The weaponization and abuses by the FBI and the IC, the intelligence community here, are legion.
It is disgusting what happened here.
Yeah.
Now, what were they covering on July 27th?
So part A of this show, our first 20 minutes, was setting you up for this.
This critical piece in the Epoch Times yesterday.
Part A of the show describes on July 27th how this entire scam and scheme is exposed.
Mueller panics because now he knows his lead investigator's texts have exposed the efforts to spy on the Trump team and Trump while he's in the White House to get some spies.
To get some informants, I should say, to be more precise in my terminology.
Mueller panics, the House GOP freaks out, and the Trump administration, someone within it, leaks out the story to get ahead of this.
That Baker and Comey are frauds too and have been a part of this thing.
What were they hiding?
Folks, it all goes back to the August 2016 text by Page to Stroke how I opened up the show about the insurance policy.
That think about it as an insurance policy in case you die before you're 40 or whatever Stroke says there.
Everybody's been wondering, and a lot of the House GOP members who are read in on this, Nunes, Jordan, and others, have consistently focused on this text as being a source for trouble for the FBI, Joe.
What was the insurance policy?
The FBI agent leading an investigation in Trump, what insurance policy were they talking about?
It seems crystal clear right now, Joe, let's move a transition to Part B of the show, that that insurance policy was an effort to flip George Papadopoulos Against Donald Trump that failed and failed miserably.
Let me walk you through this.
George Papadopoulos is interviewed on January 27th.
He's interviewed on January 27th of 2017 by the FBI.
He's interviewed again in February.
He's interviewed again on in February, February 16th. He's interviewed again and
in the statement of offense they used to charge Papadopoulos.
They say that Papadopoulos reiterated his claims that he wanted to help the FBI.
Reiterated, Joe, meaning it was iterated the first time.
Yeah.
Meaning what, Joe?
On their initial January 27th interview of George Papadopoulos, there was likely some type of formal or informal cooperation arrangement made between George Papadopoulos and the FBI.
Something previously, let's say, not disclosed.
Or not disclosed in any detail.
What the heck is going on here, folks?
Who is Papadopoulos cooperating against?
Why the rush to interview him again on February 16th?
What happened at the February 16th meeting where Papadopoulos in the article describes the FBI storming out of there in anger?
What happened?
Folks, they were playing Papadopoulos and Mifsud against each other.
It's so obvious now.
It's clear as day.
The sun's finally come up.
The FBI needed a source within the Trump campaign.
They interview him January 27, seven days after Trump is inaugurated president.
Now, if you notice in the statement of offense against Papadopoulos, Mueller's own statement of offense charging Papadopoulos with false statements for the FBI, the timeline jumps around dramatically.
It jumps around from August all the way to January.
Now, John Solomon has brought this up at The Hill, and I brought this up on the show months ago.
Yes, we did.
Remember, Joe, how Solomon said a while ago, Solomon knows the whole story.
Solomon has another piece in my show notes today that I'm hoping to get to.
That's another bombshell.
But Solomon has made a key tenet of his presentation on The Hannity Show at night when he does his appearances of this broken timeline with Papadopoulos 2.
How the FBI seems to show interest in Papadopoulos in August of 2016 and shows no interest with him again all the way until January of 2017 after Trump is president.
Ladies and gentlemen, if the FBI story is accurate, that they started investigating Donald Trump because of George Papadopoulos' meeting with Alexander Downer, the Australian ambassador to the United Kingdom, where the topic of allegedly emails comes up, Hillary Clinton's emails on the Russians, if that was the impetus for the investigation, all the way back in the In the summer and spring of 2016, how the heck does the Statement of Offense have this missing block of time from the summer of 2016 all the way till January of 2017?
And the answer is clear as day.
The answer is this had nothing to do with Papadopoulos.
This was an FBI effort to spy on the Trump team that fell apart.
After the effort fell apart, when Trump wins the presidency, folks, they panic.
They try to go back to Christopher Steele, as we saw with yesterday's show.
That Bruce Orr is asked to reconnect with Christopher Steele after he's been fired by the FBI and after Jim Comey gets fired.
Why?
Because Andy McCabe, the number two that takes over the FBI, panics.
He freaks out.
He's intimately involved in this whole thing.
He will do anything to make sure they can nail Donald Trump and cover up his misdeeds, Joe.
So what does he do?
He gets desperate.
He goes back to Christopher Steele and asks Bruce Ohr to connect with the author of the fake dossier to get more fake information they can hopefully leak to the media to put public pressure on the public to support an impeachment thing against Trump to get rid of him.
What do they also do?
The Papadopoulos timeline makes sense now.
Papadopoulos had nothing to do with it.
He was just, in the spring and summer, he's just another spoke on the wheel of this massive spying operation the Obama team's conducting against the Trump team.
But what happens in January, Joe?
Nothing's working out for them.
All of their supposed angles and evidence points and bullet points and data points showing that Trump colluded with the Russians turn out to be false.
The dossier, everything turns out to be fake.
They panic.
They try to reconnect with Steele.
The Steele connection doesn't work because they can't hide it.
The reconnection, they've already fired him, deeming him not suitable for use.
So what do they do?
They got to go back to another person and flip him as an informant.
Who is that person and why does he appear on January 27th?
Because it's George Papadopoulos, they think they've got something on him, and it's seven days after the election.
They freak out, Joe.
Nothing's working.
Donald Trump is the president.
They need to get rid of him.
Comey, this entire cabal at the FBI, needs to make sure they can get somebody on the inside of this Trump team.
Somebody.
But they need somebody who's dirty a little bit.
Who they think is dirty.
Now, why would they need someone who's dirty to work for them, Joe, or they think is dirty or can dirty up?
Well, Joe, let me ask you a simple question because I'm sure some at home in the audience are asking the same thing.
Certainly, Daniel.
Well, why would Papadopoulos work for the FBI?
Joe, if the FBI came up to you today and asked you to be an informant on a crime that never happened, would you agree?
On a crime that never happened?
No.
Probably not, right?
No.
But what if the FBI came to you, Joe, and you were shady on whether this happened or not.
You're not really sure, but they say, Joe, listen, we're going to take away little Joe.
We have evidence you've been engaged in treason with the Russians.
Would you consider it?
I mean, they might have like $10,000 they want to hold over my head or something.
Yeah, that would give them some ammo.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying, brother.
Very strategic use of that $10,000 figure.
I know where you're going with that.
Yes, brother.
Yes!
It's now clear they played Papadopoulos and Mifsud against one another.
Remember, the Papadopoulos-Mifsud connection back in April of the prior year Papadopoulos is alleged to have, he meets with Mifsud, he didn't meet with Mifsud, but the allegations of what happened at this meeting with Joseph Mifsud are the key component of the entire FBI case against Papadopoulos.
Please, man, I hope you're following me.
I actually prayed before the show, I'm not kidding.
God, allow me to speak with clarity, precision, and some wit here.
I know you did, dude.
Inspire me, put the thoughts in my head and the words on my tongue so you'll understand what's going on because this is so devastating.
The year before, Papadopoulos, who keep in mind is just a small spoke in a massive operation to spy on Donald Trump, through unmasking, through targeting Mike Flynn, targeting any foreign calls by the Trump administration, misuse of the NSA database, misuse of the FISA courts, Targeting Carter Page, the two hop rule.
They are all spokes in a major, keep at the 30,000 foot, 60,000 foot, 120,000 foot view in your head.
It is a major operation by a sitting president to use everything at his disposal to spy on Trump.
Papadopoulos is a small spoke in this wheel.
This small spoke does not work out.
They abandon it.
They abandon it in the summer.
They come back to it after Trump is president because they don't have anything else.
Every other angle they pursued, Carter Page, unmasking, Mike Flynn, none of it's working out.
None of it.
They have to get rid of Trump.
So what happens?
Well, you have to understand Papadopoulos' spoke first.
When you look at the statement of offense against Papadopoulos and Papadopoulos' interview yesterday with the Epoch Times, it's crystal clear what went on here.
Let me read to you from the Epoch Times piece yesterday because there's an explosive new allegation.
Pieces in the show notes.
This is mandatory reading.
Quote, Epoch Times.
In a previously undisclosed interaction with the FBI, An FBI agent asked Papadopoulos to wear a wire to record Mifsud according to the transcript.
The offer occurred at a cafe in Chicago on or around January 31st, 2017, just days after Papadopoulos' first interview with two FBI agents on January 27th.
Papadopoulos, without a lawyer, met this lone FBI agent, one of the two interviewed him days earlier, who asked Papadopoulos to travel to London, again, and told him he would get a glimpse into the operation from behind the scenes.
They tried to flip this guy.
Now, again, you entrepreneurial investigators out there who've been listening to the show for a while, you've been saying, well, Dan, I thought you've been indicating for a while that Mifsud was a Western intelligence asset.
So let's explain what happens in the prior year.
Papadopoulos, this foreign policy advisor for the Trump team, at a low level, granted.
He's asked to meet with this Maltese professor, Joseph Mifsud, in April of the prior year.
It is alleged that Mifsud is the one who tells Papadopoulos that the Russians may have emails on Hillary.
Ladies and gentlemen, that point is key.
I believe Papadopoulos was the subject of a targeted FBI investigation.
An FBI investigation to rope Trump team members into a conspiracy to hack into Hillary's emails by the Russians.
How do they do that?
They push the information into the Trump team and they see what they do with it.
They're monitoring them.
They're clearly looking for FISAs.
They're clearly using the NSA database.
They want the Trump team to talk about, Joe, information they got from other people about Hillary's emails and the Russians.
Right.
They need this because they need to rope them into this spying operation and use it as material to leak to the media before the election.
And God forbid, after the election, if Trump gets elected, to use him for impeachment.
Are you tracking me?
Now, if you are tracking at home, you may be saying, well Dan, is Mifsud working with our intelligence or partners in London?
Or is Papadopoulos?
Because why would the FBI then ask Papadopoulos to wear a wire against Mifsud?
Ladies and gentlemen, it's distinctly possible that not all parties are talking to each other here.
Mifsud may have been working with Western intelligence partners.
While the law enforcement side of it, the Bureau, may have initially been unaware of this.
Remember Lisa Page's commentary from yesterday?
Her testimony up on the Hill was exposed, and Page seems adamant that they did not know about the dossier until September of 2016, but it's clear as day now that John Brennan knew about it earlier.
And it's also clear as day from John Solomon's piece now, which you read in The Hill today, that Andy Weissman, Mueller's bulldog, and others, when he was with the Justice Department, clearly knew that this information was coming from Steele, a corrupted source, way before the FBI's alleging they found out about it in September.
I know it gets confusing here.
I must step in as the ombudsman.
You may have to listen to this twice.
It is a load of information to process.
Gosh, it is, Joe, but it's so critical.
Let me explain this to you again.
They're trying to set up Papadopoulos in the spring of 2016 because he's a member of the Trump team.
They push onto him information from Mifsud about Russian emails from Hillary being held by the Russians in an effort To get Papadopoulos to play ball with it, to contact people on the Trump team, hey, this is great, look, the Russians are going to work with us and get us Hillary's emails.
You follow that part?
Yeah.
Please tell me you do, okay?
Good, yeah, we're good.
It's a setup.
I'm suggesting to you that that setup may have been an IC setup by people in the intelligence community working with Five Eyes partners.
In an effort to set up a member of the Trump team.
To do what?
To leak that information to the media if Papadopoulos plays ball.
Look, the Trump team wants to work with the Russians to get Hillary's emails.
In an effort to do two things at the same time, Joe.
In an effort to undercut the Trump team's credibility.
And secondly, to make the Hillary email scandal go away by making it look like it's a foreign operation with Trump.
You tracking?
Big time.
That's step one.
Needed a recap, dude.
Okay good and feel free to start.
This is why you're here.
Well you're here for other reasons too but that's your biggest, that's your most important role.
Folks step one doesn't work because Papadopoulos doesn't play ball.
He doesn't do anything with criminal with the investigation.
Start conspiring with the Trump team to reach out to Russian officials and get the emails.
He doesn't do it.
The Bureau panics.
That spoke on their wheel of the spying operation falls apart.
It doesn't come back again until everything else fails.
The FISA warrant against Carter Page.
They're tapping in the NSA database.
Joe, they don't have anything on this.
The Trump team is not playing ball.
They're not working with them on this.
The IC, I believe in conjunction with Brennan's team, His small group are desperately trying to get the Trump team to talk about this stuff so they can push it to the bureau and nothing happens.
What do they do?
They panic.
They bring in Alexander Downer later.
Alexander Downer later meets with Papadopoulos in this London pub and the allegation then is that Papadopoulos mentioned something about emails.
An allegation later refuted by Papadopoulos and Downer as well who says he just mentioned dirt on Hillary which was already a public story.
But Joe, the Bureau's panicking too.
Why?
Again, this scandal's not working out.
They're trying to set up the Trump team and get them on tape and get them on recordings and get informants within the Trump team to admit that the Trump team is trying to work with the Russians for Hillary's emails.
But the problem, Joe, is they're not doing it.
So they panic.
Downer comes into the mix.
The Downer conversation with Papadopoulos is used as a reason to start an investigation against Papadopoulos.
Was there a FISA against him too?
Papadopoulos?
What happens after the Downer meeting, Joe?
Nothing!
Nothing happens after the Downer meeting.
Because in the Downer meeting with Papadopoulos where they talk about dirt on Hillary, clearly someone in the FBI starts an investigation but realizes after a couple weeks of investigating there's no there there.
There's nothing there.
That's why you don't see Papadopoulos enter the picture again until after the election when, you know, tier one level panic sets in and people in the FBI are like, holy Moses, it's going to be exposed that we tried to get Papadopoulos dirtied up and tried to flip him.
Good deal, brother.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
So after seven days after the election, the bureau shows up at his house again.
And in an effort to get him dirtied up, what do they say?
Hey, we'd like you to wear a wire against Ms.
Sood.
Now, there are two possibilities here.
Here's possibility number one.
The people in the FBI are not read in as to what the intelligence community did by working with Ms.
Sood.
To dirty up Papadopoulos.
Please tell me that makes sense.
Here's scenario number one.
People within the intelligence community, not the law enforcement community on the FBI side, working with Brennan and some partners in London and probably some private companies too, are trying to dirty up the Trump team.
They don't tell the FBI about this.
The guy they're using as a spy for them, Mifsud, the FBI may believe at this point he's legitimately dirty, Mifsud.
But they think Papadopoulos is dirty too, Joe, because Papadopoulos has been dealing with the dirty guy.
Gotcha, gotcha.
It's like if you were trying to cooperate or corroborate a, excuse me, coordinate a bank robbery with a bank robber.
They think you're dirty too for being a piece of it, but they also want the bank robber.
So the Bureau comes in, figures out that they may be able to flip Papadopoulos as a source within the Trump administration if he gets a job there.
By getting him to wear a wire with Ms.
Sud, and then they have something on him.
They have this whole thing.
They have this April meeting with him, where he's dealing with this alleged Russian guy.
Excuse me, Ms.
Sud, this guy connected to Russians in the emails.
In other words, they have a chit against him.
Chit.
C-H.
You see what I'm saying, Joe?
Sure do.
They probably approached Papadopoulos on January 27th.
Hey, we know you were meeting with this guy, Mifsud, not realizing Mifsud is an intelligence asset for Western intelligence.
And he mentioned something about Russian emails.
George, you're in a lot of trouble.
You better work for us.
This is really an effort to flip Papadopoulos on Trump, though.
You get it?
Mm-hmm.
They don't care about Mifsud.
Mm-mm.
How do we know that, Joe?
Because they interview Mifsud just weeks later on February 11th after they interviewed Papadopoulos on January 27th and asked him to wear a wire.
Papadopoulos doesn't want to do it.
On February 11th they interview Mifsud.
He's never seen again the FBI.
Right.
Folks, what happened here?
What happened is pretty clear at this point.
Somebody notifies the FBI after the February 11th meeting with Mifsud that Mifsud was an intelligence asset for friendlies trying to set up the Trump team.
The Bureau panics.
The Bureau panics because now they realize they've been trying to flip Papadopoulos the whole time and Papadopoulos is the victim of a setup by our own IC.
What do they do, Joe?
They go back to Papadopoulos five days after the Mifsud interview, February 16th.
Papadopoulos figures out the scam.
It's clear as day.
Why, Joe?
He deletes his Facebook page and gets rid of his cell phone.
He figures out the Bureau's not looking for Mifsud.
The Bureau's looking for him!
Between this period, Papadopoulos wipes his accounts clean.
I'm not suggesting it's the right thing to do.
I'm just telling you what happened.
The Bureau comes back to him in an extra super panic on February 16th, just five days after the Mifsud interview, probably realizes, holy Mifsud is an IC asset for us!
He's not a Russian!
What do we do now?
We gotta shut this guy up!
They go back to Papadopoulos, desperate now for him to cooperate against the Trump team, realizing their role in this whole thing.
That the Bureau was probably, people were hoodwinked in this massive scheme.
Believe me, I'm not suggesting at all that they are without stain on this, because there's another option too, which I'll get to.
But they panic in the interview because now Papadopoulos with his lawyer in the room, February 16th, is totally not interested in playing ball at all.
Gets rid of his Facebook, gets rid of his phone.
Their FBI realizes now, Joe, they've got a real problem.
But Mueller's team, excuse me, the team working on this case, Mueller's not a key player in this yet.
The team working on this case, Joe, realizes they have a serious, serious problem.
Because Papadopoulos is out there.
Now people know they have recordings likely of Papadopoulos' meeting with Massoud.
They realize Massoud is likely an intelligence asset being groomed to work against the presidential candidate, that they're all nailed for their role in it, but it doesn't become transparently obvious how much trouble they're in, Joe, until... July 27th, 2017.
When the Inspector General, Michael Horowitz, goes up to the Bob Mueller team and says, hey, Bob, have you read these text messages?
Oh, boy, were those probably an eye opener for Bob.
Hey, we better go arrest Papa D.
I have another option for you.
All right.
Let me just get through this.
Let me read this.
Don't go anywhere.
I'm leaning towards that first option I told you.
That the Bureau was entirely unaware that Mifsud was a Western intelligence asset.
They needed to flip Papadopoulos.
They figured this out on February 11th.
That's why Mifsud disappears to never be seen again.
The Bureau panics too.
Look what we did.
We're gonna get busted.
Trump's gonna figure this out.
He can declassify all this.
You better go arrest Papadopoulos.
Mifsud, don't show your face.
Like ever.
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Folks, there's another possibility here to this massive, massive scandal.
We now know that despite the Democrats' protestations otherwise, that Andy Weissman, who's on the Mueller team, according to John Solomon's latest piece, is aware that the FBI's primary source of information in the Russian collusion thing, Steele, is corrupted.
Apparently Bruce Orr briefs, this is according to Solomon Peace, people at the Justice Department, while Andy Weissman was still there, briefs them, briefs McCabe at the FBI and others, and when he tells them about the information in the Steele dossier, Bruce Orr, under oath in Congress, Joe, has said that he was clear as day that this was potentially corrupted information that was the result of a guy who didn't like Trump.
Now, this is new.
As Sean Hannity said last night, and he's right, they knew.
They knew the whole time.
The Democrats and up in Congress folks and the media has been insisting the entire time here that when the dossier information was presented to the FISA court to spy on the Trump team that people in the FBI were unaware of the political motivations of the document.
People in the DOJ were unaware.
That is not true.
Let me read to you from John Solomon's piece.
But Orr's contacts about the Steele dossier weren't limited to the FBI.
Listen to the dates, Joe.
The date of the insurance policy text from Peter Stroke is August of 2016.
Or, briefs, uh, the Justice, he said in August of 2016, nearly two months before the FISA warrant was issued, that he was asked to conduct a briefing for senior justice officials.
Listen to who's in this briefing!
Those he briefed included Andrew Weissman, then head of the DOJ's fraud section, Bruce Schwartz, longtime head of the DOJ's international operations, and Zainab Ahmad, an accomplished terrorism prosecutor who at the time was assigned to work with Lynch as a senior counsel.
She is now on the special counsel with Andrew Weissman as well.
Now do you understand the cleanup operation?
Mueller's bringing in all of these people who were briefed as far back as August of 2016 about a dossier that later turned out to be false from a guy, Steele, Christopher Steele, who Bruce Ohr told him was a corrupted source!
Now do you understand why Mueller was the only guy who could possibly be appointed for the special counsel who could clean up this mess?
Because he was going to hire the people involved in the mess.
Of course they were going to make their role in it go away by keeping the attention on Donald Trump.
Right around the same time, Bruce Ohr is telling them about this phony dossier Stroke probably catches on.
He's the lead investigator in this case.
Remember, he texts his girlfriend in another text exchange show that there's probably no there there when talking about the investigation of Trump.
Lisa Page has said in Congressional Hill testimony, in Capitol Hill testimony, that by the time they had got the Pfizer warrants that it still could have been literally nothing.
What does this tell you Joe?
Now it makes the insurance policy text in August of 2016 around the same time make sense.
Clearly Stroke, who's an experienced but rather dopey investigator at times, but is the lead investigator on this case against Trump, clearly figures out that there's probably, this is a garbage case.
They need an insurance policy.
What is the insurance policy?
The insurance policy at this time is clearly going to be the work they do on George Papadopoulos to flip him to get Papadopoulos to work!
Folks... This is... This thing... It's so devious and disgusting.
I just want you to take some solace in the fact that I'm absolutely convinced that all of these players are going down.
They have left a massive, massive paper trail.
Now, I want to get to two more things.
I teased before the reading, I don't want to leave this out because I want to get to one more thing before the end of the show as well.
There's another option here.
So just to, let's pull this back out and summarize the whole show.
Around August of 2016, there's a lot of action in this case.
Orr is briefing the FBI.
Bruce Orr.
Bruce Orr is talking to Steele.
Investigations are going on.
This is right before the FISA warrant.
They're desperate to get information on the Trump team because they're spying on him.
They start to realize their investigation is falling apart.
This is when the investigation into Papadopoulos kind of the timeline lapses for a while because they're probably moving on to other targets and other spokes in their spying wheel.
Someone texts about an insurance policy at this point.
It's a stroke text page.
The insurance policy is likely the flipping of people within the Trump team, notably Papadopoulos being one of them.
Trying to dirty up Papadopoulos to get him to be a source while Trump is campaigning and get him to be a source afterwards.
It doesn't work out.
Papadopoulos figures out when they come back to him in January, Papadopoulos figures out what they're doing.
They ask him to wire up against Mifsud.
They likely figure out Mifsud is an IC asset in their interview in February 11.
They back off that on the Mifsud side.
Mifsud disappears.
They go back to Papadopoulos February 16th to try to shut him up.
He won't shut up.
So what do they do?
They lock him up on July 27th after the texts are exposed, exposing the whole scheme.
But there's another possibility here I want to put out there.
And the other possibility is this.
That Mifsud may have been, what this guy quotes to me, an unwitting.
Mifsud may not have been the IC asset they were using to set up Papadopoulos, Joe.
In the Statement of Offense, notably, they talk about this Russian MFA connection that Mifsud introduces Papadopoulos to.
In other words, Mifsud introduces Papadopoulos to a Russian.
Okay.
How they frame the Russian in the Statement of Offense is very distinct.
They leave out sex at many points.
You know, the sex of the source.
Indicating that this Russian MFA connection may have been the IC asset him or herself.
In other words, Mifsud Joe Mifsud may have been unwittingly involved in this.
He then may have been approached later on by intelligence community members.
The bureau figures this out in February 11th of 2017 when they interview him and then gives him the boot too and says don't ever speak of this again.
But it's fascinating how they describe this Russian MFA connection.
In other words, folks, either way, option one that Mifsud is the asset working for the intelligence community to set up Papadopoulos, or option two, it's this mysterious Russian MFA connection who's really spying for our IC community.
Either way, Papadopoulos was clearly being set up.
There is an effort here repeatedly with Papadopoulos approaching him.
Joe mentioned the $10,000.
The approach to Papadopoulos with this $10,000 overseas, which the account of that's disputed by the other person involved, Charles Tawil.
But you can read the Epoch Times piece.
But there were multiple approaches to Papadopoulos.
I'm asking you this question now.
Why the rush to arrest this guy on July 27th on what appears to be a PC warrant?
And the answer seems crystal clear right now.
They needed to shut him up and shut him down.
There was no other way to do it.
They tried to flip Papadopoulos.
They were using Papadopoulos, what they thought as a source, and they were trying to dirty him up to use him if he got hired later on by the Trump team, or they were trying to use him against Mifsud until they found out Mifsud was being used by the IC against Papadopoulos.
Folks, I'm really starting to believe That some of the key players in the bureau knew what they were doing.
Believe me, they knew they were investigating Trump for no reason.
But that Brennan kept a lot of them in the dark as well.
That there may have been a deep and detailed IC operation with foreign partners in London and elsewhere to set up Donald Trump.
To leak that information to the media.
They only brought in law enforcement later, Joe, with the August memo from Harry Reid after he gets briefed by Brennan, as they started to panic about the election and figured out President Trump, at that time candidate Trump, may in fact win this thing.
And if he was going to win, they were all going to be exposed.
They needed an insurance policy.
That insurance policy was going to be to flip Papadopoulos against the Trump team, believing he was involved in this Russian scandal, only figuring out later that Mifsud and the whole thing was set up by the IC.
There was no Russian scandal.
There was an intelligence community scandal.
Hence the July 27th political civil war date.
Where Mueller figures out the team he's been using the whole time has been corrupted.
They have to arrest Papadopoulos.
The House GOP figures it out.
Calls for a second special counsel.
And conveniently someone leaks to Circa about a top FBI lawyer working with Comey who may have been involved in a scheme to leak information to the media.
Folks, I know this show is complicated today.
I'm sorry for that.
But this is one of the more critical shows we've done in a long time.
This article by the Epoch Times is devastating.
I have to be candid with you.
I'm not even sure Papadopoulos understands the layers involved in this.
He may, unless we should try to get him back for another interview, Joe.
But it seems clear as day now that Papadopoulos in January of 27, clear as day, according to his own words, is approached and is possibly going to work with the FBI.
But Papadopoulos doesn't realize, Joe, that the FBI is not targeting Mifsud.
The FBI is targeting Papadopoulos.
They need a source inside the Trump team.
Papadopoulos figures it out.
He figures it out and that's why he panics with his Facebook page and his phone.
And the FBI rushes in on February 16th to clean this mess up.
They can't have it go public?
That they're trying to recruit a spy inside what now may be the Trump administration?
They had to clean this mess up.
They thought they had gold.
He met with Mifsud.
They met with this Russian MFA connection.
They were talking about emails.
I'm not sure Mifsud was who the FBI thought he was.
Folks, this is a devastating piece.
Please, please check it out.
All right, I'd love to hear your feedback on the show today.
I understand it was complicated.
Please listen twice.
I tried to repeat myself as little as possible on it.
I know some of you like that, some of you don't.
We went right straight through it in the timeline, but I think if you listen twice, it'll all make sense.
The Bureau thought they had gold in Papadopoulos, never realizing that their own intelligence assets were working against them.
Intelligence assets for friendlies.
It now appears crystal clear based on this new information that Papadopoulos was asked to wear a wire against Mifsud.
Which makes absolutely no sense if Mifsud was working for our guys and the Bureau knew it.
Unless they were trying to get Papadopoulos groomed to be an informant later on and told Mifsud just play ball with this guy.
It makes absolutely no sense.
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