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Jan. 5, 2018 - The Dan Bongino Show
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Ep. 627 The Painful Truth About the Clintons

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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
Well, a good subarctic morning to you there, buddy.
You're still freezing.
What's the temperature up there, Maryland?
It's about 26 right now, but it got down below 10 overnight for a long time.
Yeah, it was almost freezing here in Florida, which I've never ever heard.
It was 34 yesterday, in the morning.
I mean, in the afternoon, it heats up to like 60.
But yeah, it was pretty cold, but nothing compared.
I totally sympathize with you up in the North.
I am not complaining at all.
I was a New Yorker, a Marylander.
I totally get it.
It is freezing and you have my deepest sympathies.
I am celebrating 34 degrees.
A guy, a regular listener of the show, you know who you are, emailed me yesterday a temperature map of his area.
I don't know where it was, like Saskatchewan or something?
It was like minus 30.
I'm like, brother, you got me.
It was 34 and it was 60 degrees warmer up here.
So you have my deepest sympathies as a regular listener.
You know I love you.
On a very serious note, it's going to be a tough show for me today.
But I think an interesting show for you, especially some of you who are tuning in for a very specific reason.
So last night I got into a little Twitter thing with another Clintonista, which I do often because I think the Clintons are corrupt.
I think they've been the most destructive force in American politics in the last 50 years.
I know information about the Clintons that people have told me that are basically unimpeachable sources that is devastating.
Some of it, as I've said to you on the show before, I've had a hold back and it's not that I'm playing coy or that I care about, oh gosh, we're going to hold it for like a podcast Tuesday when the listenership is at, no, no, that's not what I'm about.
What I know and I can verify, and Joe can vouch for me on this because he knows it, what I know and I can verify, I've given you.
What I know and I can verify and have been sworn to secrecy on by others who will get them in trouble, I've had a hold back on.
Because I'm not going to burn someone else who's going to lose their job because they trusted me with something.
Right.
So I was given permission to say something on something you've all been curious about for a long time.
And let me give you the quick genesis of how this started.
So I get into a little Twitter fight, which to be fair, I started against Philippe Raines, who is a Clinton bootlicker, another acolyte sycophant, you know, sucks up to the Clintons at every opportunity.
The guy's basically, I remember this guy.
We didn't cross paths a lot.
Because he came on kind of later from what I remember, but I worked with him more during the Senate run.
But I know who he is, and I know people who know him.
He's kind of the, as I tweeted back to him, the whiny, typical, like, bowtie-wearing, foie gras-eating, liberal type.
You know, very whiny, you know?
Like, snowflakey, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
You've seen the type.
So I get into it on Twitter, and again, I did start this, so I don't want to be disingenuous with you, but he fires back a bomb from Wikipedia on me, where some anonymous agent, he's not anonymous, I know who he is, who we never liked each other, has always gone after me.
about me writing that initial book, which is fine.
Now, I'm not anonymous.
He gets the remainder, although I know who he is, and I know why he said what he said.
But what the agent said was basically that, you know, what was in my initial book was a misportrayed level of access for the Secret Service.
So I put out a challenge to Philippe on Twitter, quoting Wikipedia, which is kind of funny, by the way.
And I said, well, show me, you know, I'll give you $1,000, and I mean it.
I'll give you $1,000 if you could point to one example in my first book of an exaggeration.
Now, you talk to Secret Service agents who actually know me, you'll get a completely different, overwhelmingly positive perspective.
But of course, this one guy who got in trouble for doing something, and I made sure people knew about it because what he did was entirely unethical, he's the anonymous source.
I'm sure of it.
He's always been.
You see where I'm going with this?
So that's the setup.
So I then said to Reigns on Twitter, and I'm going to say to you now, I've been holding something.
And because these Clintonistas continue to make this personal with me, and they do their typical thing, which is to not address the allegations show, but to deconstruct the character of the person making the allegation.
They did this with all the Bill Clinton affairs.
They've done this to everyone that's come after them.
They attacked the person, not the charge.
In an effort to discredit the person and later say, oh, well those charges, they came from that person.
He can't be legit.
You see the strategy?
Yeah.
So it's time to fight back.
And let me tell you a little something.
So here's what I know, and what I think the public knows about, but doesn't know the details.
So I was contacted by a source, and I'm not going to give you any more details on who that source is.
A he or she, an it, a they, a zee, or whatever.
Alien, it doesn't matter.
But the source is first hand.
First hand, meaning they were there.
For liberals, I have a tough time understanding that.
And the source, let's just say they, they told me that they were actually on one of these flights with Clinton, Bill that is, and this Epstein character.
This Epstein character who he flew around with quite a bit, who was charged with a bunch of crimes for taking a bunch of basically teenage girls on a plane to engage in all types of behaviors, let's just say.
It's a family-friendly show, so you can figure out the rest.
Joe, now, to be clear, you and I haven't discussed this in the past, right?
No, we haven't.
You haven't discussed it before the show either?
I just told him to bear with me on this, so he's giving me a lot of leeway.
It's new to me.
So Clinton was on those planes.
That's all out there.
People know that.
There's nothing breaking about that.
But what if I told you there was a first-hand account?
of Bill Clinton on that plane disappearing with some people on that plane.
You put two and two together, folks.
You can figure it out.
Disappearing with some people on that plane and not coming back for long enough that the person who gave me the first-hand account of what happened was so disturbed by it that he had to bring it up to people in a senior position who then made him kind of pay for it.
Him, her, they.
Don't look into any of that.
No, I mean it.
I'm like, I'm intentionally trying to cover for someone.
So if this person was so disturbed by what they saw and brought it up and was made sure to, it was kind of silenced in a way, you know, what do you think happened there?
Now, I know these stories have been out there, and there's been a lot of speculation, but what I'm telling you is that the first hand account of this person, she, he, they, was so disturbing that the person felt the need to call me and tell me about it.
Now, to give you the details on how that happened, I was gone, I was not in the Secret Service at the time, I had left, and I'm telling you that the account from this person, is absolutely unimpeachable and also is the character.
This is not a partisan actor, not someone with even strong political leanings at all, but it is a woman, a man, who was horrified about what went on with the Clintons during their time that this person was around them.
Now, I can't say anymore because that's a first-hand account and I don't give second-hand information as if it's a first-hand account.
But I'm telling you the manner in which it was told to me was so troubling that I think, given light of what's going on right now with Weinstein and all these other troubling scandals, that that deserves some pretty serious attention.
Now, Philippe, because you've decided to, you know, open up and attack me, Answer that one.
What was going on in the back of those planes?
Why was he back there with those people?
What was he doing back there?
Having airplane peanuts?
Were they watching a movie?
Were they doing yoga?
What were they doing back there?
Answer that, Philipe.
Does someone want to tweet, Philipe Raines?
By the way, I figured this out.
I got his name right.
It's 1L.
Philippe.
It's not Philippe.
It's Philippe Reigns.
1L.
Can I add a second L?
I just threw that in there for loser, but that's all right.
So tweet Philippe and ask him, what happened there?
You guys all seem to have big mouths when you come after people.
Granted, I absolutely started this.
And the reason I started it so you understand the background is because now that the Clinton email investigation is opening up again, The Clinton consiglieres, you know, the the Clinton army of drones, will come out and not discredit the email charges.
They'll try to discredit the Department of Justice, Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions, anyone else involved in the case, and people like me who have firsthand accounts of the email situation as well, Joe.
They will never refute the charges because they can't.
Right.
Right, Joe?
There's no disputing classified information was shared on the Clinton server.
No, there's no disputing that at all.
So their tactics are, because this is what the dirty dog slob Clintons do, is they attack the messenger.
And when they attack the messenger, in an effort to discredit the messenger, they distract attention away from the charges that will basically focus, like a magnifying glass, the attention on them.
Now with regard to the email scandal, I also have a first-hand account of that.
Someone who was there when the actual server was looked at.
And let me just give you the account on regard of hacking into the server.
Quote, it was not good.
What do you think not good meant?
When you ask about hacking and someone says, uh, it was not good.
You think they meant it wasn't hacked?
Folks, I'm just asking.
I know the person was scared, who was there, didn't want to, was afraid of retaliation by the Clintons.
I'm not.
I don't care.
What are you going to do to me?
I'm ready for it.
I was born for this.
I am.
I'm absolutely ready for it.
I am absolutely ready for this.
A hundred percent.
I'm ready for this fight.
Now, the guy I know, who was there, also has other people who know, and other people who know things are also afraid to speak it out.
Now, I'm gonna throw in one final, so I ask first Philippe to address the, what was Bill doing in the back of those planes?
With those people, Joe.
What was he doing back there?
Hmm.
Question number two.
What is the server, when asked about if it was hacked, the server, when asked about it, and the quote was, it's not good.
What does that mean?
No, I'm serious.
What does that mean?
Are they talking about like the battery power on the server was going down?
What exactly does that mean, Philippe?
Let me ask you a third question.
What about that DC cop?
What about that DC cop that Hillary physically confronted, I think you know what I'm talking about, years ago.
That was all kept quiet.
What about that one?
When she stormed up on him.
You remember that?
That's another pretty strong first-hand account that's not quote exaggerated.
What about that?
You guys love the cops now, right?
It's the Republicans who can't stand the cops.
Look, they're attacking the DOJ.
That's your new BS line of thinking, right?
What about that incident?
She ever apologized to that guy?
She may have.
I don't remember it.
What about that?
Oh, you're going to tell me it didn't happen?
You sure about that?
I'm just going to leave this here with Philippe.
People are retiring soon.
People who are involved with the Clintons.
You do the math.
You figure in order to get involved with the Clintons at the staff, security, military level, you probably needed to have five years on the job before you got involved in a campaign, right Joe?
So you figure that means if Hillary Clinton's campaign for United States Senate in New York started in 1999, that means in roughly 1995, we'll round off there, round up a bit, right?
1995, a lot of these people, men and women, started on the job, right Joe?
So, that would mean that if you had a 20 or 25 year retirement, that we are right around the corner, Joe, from a whole lot of people getting ready to walk out the door.
Not bound anymore, some of them, or scared anymore of job retribution when they tell the truth about you guys.
Now, the sources I cited, because they're three different women, men, in those three different stories, We're all there when it happened.
They relayed it to me because they can't say anything right now.
They relayed those stories to me because they needed those stories out there.
A lot of those men, women, are getting ready to get out soon.
How do you think it's going to feel, Philippe?
When we give them an avenue to tell their actual stories from their own first-hand account and not repeated by me because I can tell you specifically with the first story that it is particularly devastating.
You have fun with that?
How do you like them apples, Philippe?
Sound fun?
You sure you want to keep going with this one?
Dope.
Sorry, buddy, but you opened up a can of whoop it there on yourself.
Sorry about that.
I know it's a family friendly show.
All right.
I'm bringing this up for another reason as well.
I'm going to get to that in a second.
It's important with regard to the Clintons because there's been a major, major, major breaking news story about the Clintons that you may have missed last night.
It'll be in the show notes today at Bongino.com.
Please subscribe to my email list.
I'll email you the story direct to your inbox, but it's important and I'll get to you in a second why it's important.
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One L, Joe.
One L, not two.
It's important.
Philippe Reyes.
We may have to add him as a character.
What do you think?
Philippe.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
Caveman Joe Philippe.
Let's do that.
Let's add him as a character.
Philippe, there you go.
You're being memorialized in our show forever now.
So, I'll put the show to today's story about an email, a case being reopened by the FBI, excuse me, about the Clinton email investigation.
You're like, oh, okay, oh, it's a big news.
No, no, be very careful.
The news here is not that it was opened.
I think everybody expected that, Joe.
Everybody knows the email scandal was, I put it in the article by John Solomon at The Hill.
Now that we're starting to figure out everything that happened with the email scandal with Hillary, it looks even worse.
It's where the case was opened.
Now, when you're in the Secret Service of the FBI, and you have a case of national importance, or it's very politically sensitive.
I remember this in the Secret Service.
Matter of fact, we had one.
In the Secret Service, we would call them, you know, like specials or something like that, you know, and the headquarters would monitor it.
Or some of them, very specifically, threat cases, presidential threat cases, Joe, are all monitored out of headquarters.
In other words, if I have a case, say, on a low-level counterfeiter in the New York office, headquarters really doesn't give a crap about that case.
I mean, they do.
They want you to arrest someone, but the director every morning of the Secret Service is not like, hey, did Dan Bongino get that guy who passed the $100 P-note?
You know, P-note was a computer printer note.
You get what I'm saying?
They don't really care.
They got other fish to fry, right?
But, if it was a case of international super notes, which was the note that was sponsored by a big government, the North Koreans, that made a counterfeit bill so genuine even banks couldn't detect it, and you had a source on that?
Trust me, Joe, the director wants a briefing every morning on that one.
Now, a little known fact about the Secret Service, all intelligence cases, threat cases, threats to the president, are monitored at a headquarters.
All of them.
Why do I tell you that?
Because, just to give a pat on the back to the Secret Service, that's how, if any of you are wondering, like, do they take these threat cases seriously?
Yes, every single one, literally, is run out of headquarters.
Every one.
Do you know that, Joe?
No, I didn't know that.
You threaten the President, your case is going to be monitored by headquarters every day.
That's how seriously they take this stuff.
Now, the FBI has a very similar type arrangement.
Bank robberies, financial crimes, credit card fraud, you know, kidnappings, cases that they make across state lines, those kind of things.
The headquarters doesn't get involved in every case.
If headquarters gets involved in a case, it means that you're going to have, Joe, suits.
You know, suits, bureaucrats.
You're going to have suits and bureaucrats that are, of course, going to get involved in the case and are going to be making the decisions.
What is important about this case, this new case that's been opened up against the Clintons, it was not opened up out of headquarters.
It is being run out of the FBI office out of Arkansas.
Ladies and gentlemen, take it from me, your good friend Dan who's been involved in this system, this is a critical distinction and an absolute game changer.
Not that the case is going to be free from Washington D.C.
Headquarters Bureau Management.
I want to be clear on that, Joe.
There's certainly going to be, this is an important case.
But that the case is being run out of Arkansas is a clear, distinct difference from what we've seen in the past on the email investigation where it was clearly being run out of headquarters from Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok, and all those other people that we know were politically compromised.
This is different.
Now, the case being run out of Arkansas, I said the email investigation, but let me be clear on that.
I was a little bit imprecise and shame on me for that.
The case being run out of Arkansas, and you can read the piece, I'll put a Fox News piece in the show notes today, Joe, is a pay-to-play case with the Clinton Foundation.
In other words, was money distributed to the Clinton Foundation from donors in exchange for some type of political preference?
Now, whether this winds up roping in the email investigation, now why would that be?
Because a lot of this is going to have to be shown by communications traffic.
You know what I'm saying, Joe?
Like, I email you, hey Joe, get that guy to give me a $5,000 check and I'll do something for him at the State Department.
Well, that's an email, Joe, so where would it be?
On a server.
So the reason I even bring that up is because nothing with the Clintons that covers the Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, or anything else, nothing can be investigated without the email server.
Why is that, Joe?
Because that's all they had.
Mrs. Clinton didn't even have an official email.
You get where I'm going with this?
Yeah.
There was nothing else.
There is no case on the Clintons that does not involve the email server.
Nothing.
Uranium One, the Foundation, none of it.
She only had an unofficial, unauthorized, illegal server.
Private server.
There's nothing else.
So the fact that this is running through the Arkansas office, that may or may not, Joe, have been tainted by the prior email investigation.
Says to me that some rank-and-file agents who I always trust, because they're good folks, that rank-and-file agents may be looking at this for the first time.
And if they're looking at the information for the first time, it's going to be hard to ignore either pay-to-play or what happened with the transmission of classified information over the email.
Impossible.
I applaud the Department of Justice for stepping up on this.
And folks, I think this is a game-changing moment.
Matter of fact, I'm convinced this is a game-changing moment for the Clintons.
They have been the Teflon Dons of politics forever.
Remember John Gotti in New York Joe?
They called him the Teflon Don.
There was nothing the FBI could get this guy on.
Until they did.
And he died in jail.
Right.
I remember a guy.
He got off on everything.
The Clintons are the Teflon dons of politics.
They have escaped serious prosecution for perjury, for whitewater, for travelgate, for scandals upon scandals upon scandals.
The Clinton pardons, Epstein, the destruction potentially of government property, which I have not even gotten into in detail on the show because I have a source on that too, but I can't confirm that.
That's coming another day.
The physical confrontation with the cop, the Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, the email scandal, they've gotten off on everything.
I am absolutely convinced this is a turning point right now, specifically because of where the case is being worked out of.
If the FBI management can remain partisan politics free of this investigation and let the agents do what they're going to do, I know they're going to uncover criminality.
You got it, Philippe?
I do.
Oh, yeah.
You sounded a little bit like Scooby-Doo.
That'd be the Ruh-Roh.
Ruh-Roh is right.
All right.
I got a lot more information to get to you.
Folks, do not dare tune out.
This is, I say it a lot, this is the most important show I've done in months.
And I've got another story next I want to throw out to you.
And I want to be candid about where I'm going to go with this before we even start.
I may have been wrong about something, about this Trump-Russia thing.
I had my eyes open last night a little bit.
Someone said something on a cable news interview, and I thought, Joe, I'm telling you, a light bulb went off.
I was like, have I been looking at this wrong the whole time?
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Okay.
This is serious now.
And to be fair, I'm getting into speculative territory, but I wouldn't have to get into speculative territory, Joe, if someone would just release the damn dossier while FISA warrant.
Okay.
Mark Levin has only been calling for this for a year now.
If someone would just release the FISA warrant they used to spy on the Trump campaign, all of these questions would be answered and we'd have no problem at all.
So for days, just to set this up, and folks, this may, if you mess, Joe, if I lose you, it is critical and your audience on Budsman Rolled, you stop me here.
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Because what I'm about to tell you, I think is, if I'm right, is probably the most disturbing story I've ever heard in politics, including the ones I just told you about the Clintons.
Okay.
And this is not conspiracy theory stuff.
I'm basing this on an analysis I heard based on fact, okay?
So let me just set this up.
The question I've been asking all along and telling you on the show, because you've heard it, Joe, is was the fake dossier that the Clintons and the DNC paid for from Fusion GPS, which the information came from the Russians, was that information used to spy on the Trump team?
Makes sense, right, Joe?
Yeah.
Have you not heard that from me a thousand times that I've said this is the most critical political question of our time?
And it still is.
All right.
But I heard something last night on cable news that has me thinking I've got this all wrong.
I have been assuming the entire time, Joe, that this Russian intel that showed up in the dossier that made its way into the Obama administration for them to look at into the media and may have been used to get a warrant to spy on the Trump team.
Remember, it's all fake, Joe.
It would be no different than if I was running against Joe Armacost for Congress, paying an opposition research guy to make something up on Joe, like, Joe Armacost uses Grecian 21 on his hair, putting it in a warrant to spy on Joe to see if he uses hair coloring.
Okay.
Big deal, right?
Right.
But I have assumed the whole time that the genesis of the entire operation to take down and spy on the Trump team was the dossier.
I think I was wrong.
Roger Stone, and listen, he can be sensationalist, I get it.
I understand that.
But he said something last night that I had discounted and forgotten about that made me think I've screwed this whole thing up.
That the critical question, let me set this up for you Joe, may not be was the dossier from the Russians used to spy on Trump.
The critical question may be, was this a setup the entire time?
And was the dossier just step two in a way to kind of backtrack on step one?
Now I know you, I promise I'll explain this, okay?
I am not confused at this point.
Someone may be.
Now, here's what I mean.
Stone's on Tucker last night and said something that I had completely forgotten about that made me think, this is really weird, especially having been a federal agent.
How was it, folks, that all of these randos out there, right?
These seemingly random people kept approaching the Trump campaign through low-level surrogates and secondary players to provide them information.
Now, let me give you an analogy here, what I'm saying here.
Let's just say, Joe, you and I have a podcast, right?
I mean, it's obvious.
You and I are friends.
Yeah.
Have you ever... I mean, it's a serious question.
I'm not joking around.
Have you ever gotten an email from someone from the Secret Service claiming to be an insider saying, I have potentially criminal information against Dan Bongino?
No, not once.
No, okay.
It's a serious crime.
I'm not messing... I'm just trying to set this up so people understand.
Joe, would you think, now we've known each other, gosh, five years now?
We've been doing this show for three years almost, right?
Yeah.
Would you think, and again, I'm not being silly, this is a very serious topic, I'm asking you as a friend here.
Would you think it unusual if over the course of the next month, three or four different people approach you on email, different emails, and said, hey, are you that producer?
I've got information on Dan Bongino, I remember him from the Secret Service, and it's bad, he's going to jail.
Would you think that was strange?
That'd be crazy strange.
It would be crazy only because we have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of listeners at this point all over the world, literally.
We have a lot of listeners, by the way, in Australia, so thank you to Australia, which is strange, but thank you.
Thank you, mate, if that's funny.
I mean, it's not.
I get it.
Horrible joke, but thank you very much.
We appreciate that.
But you would think that was odd, right?
People have only known us for three years now.
All of a sudden, this starts happening?
Yeah.
Why was it, Joe, that Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, the friend of Don Trump Jr.
who got the email, who said, hey, listen, you got to get this to Don Trump Jr.
We have information.
Why were all of these people all of a sudden approaching Trump surrogates?
Hmm.
Now, Joe, Let me ask you a question here.
You are not a criminal investigator, right?
And just to be clear with our audience, I did not brief you on any of this, right?
None of it, no.
And I didn't because I want Joe's honest reaction, because I know if he doesn't get it, you won't get it either.
Okey-doke.
If that happened, and all of a sudden, out of the blue, because let's say I announced tomorrow I was going to run for president.
I'm not running, but just you get the point.
And all of a sudden you got this information, Joe.
Is it just possible that someone's setting you up?
Yeah, yeah.
It's possible, yeah.
Let me double down on it.
You may say, setting me up for what?
You're saying they have information on Dan Bongino.
Let's say, Joe, that they say, I have information on Dan Bongino, Joe, and it's three separate people, and it came from the Russians.
Now, you're a little, you're savvy a bit because you've been following this case and we, to be fair, we have the benefit of Monday morning quarterbacking because we already know the story, right?
Yeah.
Now, you would be suspicious, correct?
I would probably say something to you.
Yeah, you probably would and you would probably say, hey man.
Probably I would.
But, now, seriously now, this is a serious question.
Being candid with you, if this had happened before this Trump-Russia fairytale broke, Say two years ago, when I was running for Congress or whatever.
Okay.
Serious question.
Would you have said, hey Dan, you know, we should, we should check this out.
We should go meet with this guy.
I mean, serious.
Would you meet with him or not?
Would you say we should?
I think I'd tell you about him.
That's what I would do.
I'd say, this is what happened to me.
What do you want to do?
Yeah, exactly.
And Joe, to be candid, I would be damn curious.
I'd be like, what the hell are they talking about?
Now, Put that story aside, but keep it in the back of your head as a template for what I'm about to tell you now.
Okay.
Why was it that before the application for the dossier was filed, all of these Trump people were approached in some way, shape, or form, or randomly appeared in FBI documents?
My point in telling you this, Joe, is was this a setup the entire time?
In other words, did the Obama team Let me just be careful here.
Did Obama appoint these?
Because I don't know, to be fair, what Obama knew and didn't.
I don't.
And I have thoughts on it, but I don't want to speculate and be ridiculous here.
That's where conspiracy crap comes in.
I don't know what he knew and didn't.
I do know this.
There were management people at the upper level of the FBI that unquestionably had a partisan bias against Donald Trump.
If they started an investigation Into Donald Trump, Joe.
And his team.
But had no solid, verifiable information they could use in court.
That's an important distinction.
To start that investigation.
But they started it anyway.
Maybe the dossier, Joe, later on, was just used as a way to spy, unmask, and basically wiretap through audio means and surveil the Trump team to go and verify what they already knew.
Now, you may be a little confused.
Let me give you an example I gave on a Facebook Live I did yesterday.
Because folks, this is... If the FBI, at the management level, Ran basically a sting operation against a presidential candidate on pure speculation.
No probable cause, no reasonable suspicion, no means for a warrant.
And then reverse targeted the investigation.
In other words, Joe opened up an unauthorized, potentially illicit investigation into the Trump team.
Sure.
Then went back and formalized it later, only to put on the record what they already knew.
The whole thing was corrupted the entire time.
Here's a quick example.
Sorry folks, I'm still, like I said, I'm still very cold from hell.
It's like, it's the worst thing ever.
But I did get a good workout in yesterday.
Here's an example for you.
Let's say, Joe, you have a neighbor up there in Pasadena you really don't like, and you're a federal agent.
Not only that, Joe, you're a federal agent with broad authority and a lot of power.
You got it.
You work for the FBI.
You have an agent, excuse me, a neighbor you just really don't like.
He lives a couple houses down.
You just don't like him.
You have absolutely no reason at this point to believe he's done anything wrong.
That would open up an FBI investigation under any standard rules of engagement, right?
Committed a crime, committed a bank robbery.
Those are the reasons they open up investigations, right?
Major crimes, whatever it may be.
You have no reason to believe that at all.
But you hear word at an HOA meeting one day that said neighbor may be dealing painkillers out of his house.
Now, you're not even really responsible for painkillers.
That's a DEA thing.
But you still have investigative authority.
You have no, it's a rumor, it's conjecture.
And candidly, it's the kind of thing you'd call the local police on, ordinarily.
But because Joe doesn't like his neighbor two doors down, let's say Joe one day sees a door open in the back of the house and their yards are connected.
He looks around.
Anybody looking?
He says, I'm just going to creep in the house there.
Creeps in the neighbor's house and he finds a boatload of painkillers.
Look what I've got.
Now, Joe just committed a crime, right?
Joe just burglarized the house.
The fact that it's his neighbor's house is entirely irrelevant.
Joe walks out of the house, he knows he's committed a crime, but Joe knows he has to get the neighbor.
Now what does he do?
He opens up an investigation on some hearsay, but I think we should really look into this.
He then gets a wiretap on the neighbor, surveils him 24 hours a day, and finds out maybe the neighbor was in fact dealing in painkillers, and locks him up and sends him to jail.
Who did more damage to the country?
This is a very serious question for you, in light of what I believe happened now with this Trump investigation.
Is it the FBI agent who used authoritarian, tyrannical tactics To stop, well granted, what was it?
Crime?
Or was it the guy dealing in painkillers who's probably ruining a lot of lives, but probably won't lead to the downfall of the country and faith in the Justice Department?
I would make the case to you that when looking at two wrongs like that, unquestionably the greater wrong is the FBI agent, who's now, when people find out about this, entirely destroyed faith in the FBI.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Yeah.
I knew you'd agree, and I think 99.99% of our audience says, yeah, that's kind of right on that one.
Because the one way to handle the drug dealer would have been, Joe, to call the local cops.
Hey, I think there's something suspicious going on over there.
That's it.
Pretty simple.
But now, how do you handle an FBI agent who has usurped his authority, potentially committed a crime, opened up an illicit, unauthorized operation, and then when it becomes public, he's destroyed faith basically in the entire American justice system?
Folks, that's what I'm suggesting to you may have happened in this case.
Okay.
And I'm asking you to do this based on this set of variables here.
The story about how this case started, which we still don't know, the story about how this case has started has changed three times.
I spoke about this the other day.
Yeah.
I'm not going to redo the whole thing, but if you listened to the show a couple days ago, You'll see the New York Times reported last summer that the case started with an investigation into Carter Page who took a trip to Russia.
Two days earlier, CNN reported that the case started with the dossier.
April 18th for CNN, April 20th for Carter Page.
So which is it?
Was it the dossier that had the FBI so concerned?
The fake Russian intel dossier?
Or was it Carter Page going to Russia?
Joe, both stories can't be right.
Now Carter Page was in the dossier, so CNN may have had the story right and the New York Times may have had parts of it right and just attributed it to Carter Page rather than the dossier, to be fair.
But the news story last weekend was that no, George Papadopoulos did it because he was then talking to a guy, a diplomat, who passed information on to the FBI.
How is it that all these people were approached?
Do you really believe the most consequential investigation in modern American history into a president at the time candidate and then president-elect was started because two randos on the campaign who had zero Decision-making authority at all.
Papadopoulos and Page, you think they started the biggest, most consequential investigation in modern American history?
Really?
Because one guy took a trip to Russia and because another guy got drunk in a bar?
Now, on the dossier, because I didn't tie that up, as it relates to the story I gave you about the guy dealing painkillers, Was the dossier used later on to get a warrant to spy?
I've said to you that's the most critical question, and it still is.
But let me add a question on to that, Joe.
Was the dossier used to get a warrant to spy, a FISA court warrant, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court warrant, on Trump people, Mike Flynn and others?
Not to start a case, Joe.
But to simply buttress and fortify a case they already had that they should have never started in the first place.
Okay, it's clear where you're going.
Yeah.
You got that?
Yeah.
They were panicked.
This is a distinct probability based on the collection of facts and me as a former investigator, I cannot believe something wasn't going on where people panicked after a while and said, what if we lose?
What if Hillary Clinton wins?
I mean, excuse me, if Donald Trump wins!
And we're not able to cover this!
We're gonna need something to make sure the break-in into the house to get the painkillers, Joe.
We're gonna have to cover that.
Because what if we're on video somewhere?
We're gonna have to find a way to legitimize us looking into the Trump team.
I got an idea.
There's this dossier floating out there with these salacious allegations.
If we verify this, which they never did by the way, but we put the FBI's name behind it, and we go in front of a FISA court judge, we can get a warrant to listen in on the Trump team?
And then we can get the information, them talking about it on tape, Joe.
The trip to Russia, we shouldn't have been monitoring anyway.
You follow what I'm saying with Carter Page?
Yeah.
But we can get Carter Page talking about it, and then we can make out like it was a legitimate investigation the whole time.
Nice job.
Very clever.
Now, Folks, that's how I'm going to wrap that up for you.
The dossier is a critical question.
Was it used to get a warrant?
But the more critical, the most critical question, I should say, the most critical question here is was it used to get a warrant to cover for an investigation that was already ongoing that people started to panic about?
Folks, I'm going to offer to you that nothing in this case makes sense unless what I told you is true.
Nothing.
Nobody has explained with any coherence, logic, or reason to this day why an investigation was started against the Donald Trump team.
Nothing.
All they can seem to show is that these people were approached by Russians who said we're supposed to have information.
That's all they can tell you.
Why are all these people approaching them?
Let me leave you this one last thought on this.
If those people were approaching you, Joe, about what we said before, about information about me.
They got dirt on you from the Russians.
Yeah.
Wouldn't you be curious as to who was putting them up to this?
Yeah.
Why are all those people approaching the Trump team?
Who put them up to it?
Right.
Why is Fusion GPS protecting its bank records?
Was Fusion GPS paid by the FBI?
Huh.
Think about that one, folks.
The answer is I don't know yet.
But I'm just going to ask you to digest that one.
Was Fusion GPS the intermediary between the Clinton campaign, the DNC, and the Russian intel?
Fusion GPS, the company run by Glenn Simpson, that produced the dossier, why are they hiding their bank records?
Did the FBI pay them?
If the FBI paid them, who were all these people approaching the Trump team?
Who told them to approach the Trump team?
And you may be saying to yourself, you left a loose end here, Dan, what did Roger Stone say last night?
What he said last night that sparked this light bulb in my head, which I'd forgotten about, is the Russian lawyer that met with Don Trump Jr.
Who had approached the other guy to approach Don Trump Jr.?
Joe, you know, she shouldn't have been in the country.
You know who gave her a waiver to get into the country to meet with Don Jr.?
Hmm.
The Obama administration.
Chew on what I just told you for just one second.
Chew on that.
So Joe gets an email about me from someone who shouldn't even be in the country, and is in the country because the Obama administration let them in?
By the way, they're hiding their bank records, how that was all financed.
Folks, this thing stinks to the heavens.
Stinks.
I'm telling you, this was a setup the entire time.
All right.
I have a final thought on this that came up today.
There was a piece in Politico.
You know what?
Let me actually, to be fair here, let me pull up the headline because the headline should trouble you because the Democrats are now moving on to a different line of attack.
Let me see.
Oh, here it is.
You may be saying, what's the 25th amendment?
Why does this matter right now?
any carney okay it says white house's growing excuse me Washington's growing
obsession the 25th amendment you may be saying what's the 25th amendment why
does this matter right now what does this matter to what I just discussed
folks the Democrats were hoping to have Trump impeached by now
The problem is impeachment is entirely a function of political capital.
I've discussed this before on the show repeatedly, Joe.
The term political capital, you've probably heard a thousand times.
You're probably tired.
Sure.
Impeachment is a function of political capital.
It is as simple as that.
You may say, oh, it's high crimes and misdemeanors.
It is.
But trust me, folks, if they want to find a high crime or a misdemeanor, they'll find one.
OK?
As evidenced by just about every president in history who's been impeached.
They want to find it, they'll find it.
It is a function of political capital.
Bill Clinton was impeached, but he was not forced out of office in a Senate trial.
Why?
Because the Senators who voted on it knew Bill Clinton was relatively popular.
Impeachment is a political process under the guise of an actual criminal proceeding upon Capitol Hill.
They thought they'd have him impeached by now.
Why are they panicking now?
And why is Politico putting in a piece Washington's growing obsession with the 25th Amendment?
Folks, the Democrats never thought the tax cuts would pass.
Ever.
They were terrified of the tax cuts passing, but they never thought they would pass.
That's why they lied about it.
Now that the tax cuts have in fact passed, the Democrats are panicking.
Why?
Because Trump's approval rating is going up.
It was up as high as 46%.
Now listen to what I just told you.
Rewind the tape.
Impeachment is a function of political capital.
The high crimes and misdemeanors are secondary.
I know that sounds strange, but I'm telling you it's true.
They will find a high crime or misdemeanor for anyone in office if they want to.
Trump's political capital has now gone up after the tax cuts and the Democrats are stunned and astonished.
They were hoping this Trump-Russian fiasco would be enough through indictments to get him out of office through impeachment on an obstruction charge.
That is dying by the day now as his approval rating goes up.
Now they're switching the narrative to what I told you the other day.
If you listen to Monday's show, they're going to switch to the racism narrative that Trump is a racist.
And to get him out of office, they're going to switch to the 25th Amendment now.
I'm not putting the politico piece in the show notes because it's politico, and I have almost zero respect for them.
They're just a crap outlet.
But you can google the 25th amendment.
What does the 25th amendment show?
There's a provision in there that if the vice president and the majority of the cabinet deems the president mentally or physically unfit to remain in office, that they can remove him, in fact, from office.
There was a panel up on the hill the other day and Jamie Raskin, the Maryland congressman who is a little strange himself, a Democrat, super liberal, is now talking about we have to gauge the president's fitness for office.
Joe, this is simply a result of this Russian thing collapsing.
The Democrats are finding more information right now about this and are finding out that this may have been a setup.
They are starting to panic.
They're moving on to the racism narrative.
Trump's political capital is going up because of the tax cuts.
They're realizing the futility of an impeachment argument.
So Politico and the DC media is now throwing out there, and they're starting to trial balloon, Joe, the idea that the president is mentally unstable in an effort to politically pressure the vice president and the cabinet to get this guy out of office.
They are in a full-blown panic right now.
Everything is falling apart around them.
Folks, I know that was a lot in this show.
I didn't even get to the story on the Fed I wanted to cover, which was interesting, but hopefully I'll get to it next week about the stock market and things.
But please, this was an important show today.
Listen twice if you can, but I don't get extra credit for it.
We get one download per IP.
Folks, please listen twice to this one, especially that second half about what I told you, and I'll leave you with this question again.
Why are they hiding their bank records, Fusion GPS, and who paid or assisted all of these people to approach the Trump campaign with, quote, information?
Who told them to do it?
When you answer that question, This entire thing, the horse blinders come off, the sun comes out, and unfortunately, sunlight in this case is the best disinfectant.
Unfortunately, there's a whole lot of germs to be disinfected on this one.
This thing stinks.
I'll see you all on Monday.
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