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Get ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today on this Thanksgiving?
It's turkey day and I'm ready to go, brother.
Yeah, it's the morning here in Palm City, Florida.
And listen, folks, most of you have heard about my two daughters, but you've never heard from them.
So they wanted to say a quick Happy Thanksgiving to the audience.
So first for me, Happy Thanksgiving.
Thank you for everything you've done for me.
Now, Amelia, this is my five-year-old.
Are you ready?
This is your big podcasting appearance.
Are you ready to say Happy Thanksgiving?
All right, get up on the mic here.
Happy Thanksgiving!
All right, now Isabel, this is my 13-year-old rower, Brazilian jiu-jitsu gymnast, former softball player, field hockey player, and soccer player as well.
Give them a big Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Good job, kids.
You see, this is the best part of having a home studio.
So there you go, my audience.
Love you all.
Thanks for all the emails of positive feedback.
And you ask, what are you thankful for?
I'm thankful for my faith, my family, my freedom, my country, Producer Joe, my job, the opportunities the Lord's put in front of me, and for you all for putting up with me for the last, gosh, Joe, what is it, three years, two and a half years now?
Who knows?
Yeah, about two and a half.
597 episodes, so I appreciate that, Joe.
You're a good man.
Appreciate you hanging in there with us too.
So he's been with us from the beginning.
All right.
I figured, um, Joe and I figured it'd be good day for a rough cuts episode.
They were always a little lighter.
I mean, who needs politics today, but quickly one quick story I did see, which I thought was.
Interesting.
You know there's always one, right Joe?
I knew it.
I knew it.
Can't help it.
I was reading Judge last night and I saw this story about the NFL.
Again, their ratings are just collapsing and given that it's Turkey Day with football, this is a good time to turn off the football and spend time with your family.
So that's a good note.
So I'm thankful that the NFL decided to take a knee because I took a knee on them and now it's that much more time to, you know, hang around with my family and have conversations with them rather than getting lost in a football game Where they're going to disrespect our flag.
But the story's about, put it in the show notes today, by the way, their ratings are just collapsing.
It's just amazing.
And I tweeted last night, this has to be the worst PR stunt in the history of humankind.
I mean, talk about just decimating a brand, but really it's great for us.
More time for your family.
All right, so I'm going to put all these articles and the stuff I talk about, because even when I do rough cut shows, I always back everything up with articles and things.
I don't just make this stuff up out of thin air.
I saw a couple of good pieces and one of them I wanted to discuss is, you know, I get a lot of questions about, you know, the working out stuff and everything like that.
And, you know, sometimes it's about weightlifting.
And one of them I got recently was about what kind of conditioning work, like cardio, you know, I guess some people call cardio.
I do, and I'm a big believer in what they call, you know, METCON, metabolic conditioning.
I'm not knocking running, folks.
Let me just be clear on this.
People who are jogging, we should say.
Be more precise about it.
I'm not knocking it.
It's a decent, solid form of exercise.
It's not my bag of donuts for what I do.
Now, if you're a marathon runner, if you run 5Ks, that's a skill and I admire people who can do it.
I just don't think it's the best form of metabolic conditioning.
It's great if you want to train to jog professionally or that's your thing.
And if you just like it, by all means, knock it out of the park.
But I don't, I don't like it.
I don't like it because I don't think it's applicable towards real life.
If you are not someone who does that for, you know, whatever Joe, for, for, for the, for the, for the glory or the money or whatever it may be.
I don't think it's, it's great.
So I saw an article at T Nation, which is a, it's a little bit of a hardcore website folks, but they do really, really, they write great stuff.
So I saw an article about the best types of metabolic conditioning for what I put in big capital letters, US.
Like normal people who don't run marathons for a living, who are just looking for a good amount of conditioning.
God forbid you get mugged, you have a tough day at the office, you just want to be able to physically respond to a situation that's stressful.
God forbid you see a car accident in front of you and you need to like roll a car out of the way.
What's the best type of metabolic conditioning for normal folks?
So they listed seven Seven types of conditioning that are really, really good stuff.
And for me, who does mixed martial arts, I really like this stuff.
And here's the first one, which I agree with wholeheartedly.
Strongman conditioning.
Now, you may say, well, I'm not a strongman.
What do you mean?
Like that ESPN Strongest Man in the World stuff?
Yeah, basically.
Now, you don't have to lift the weights they do and the rocks they do, but if you have a backyard or you have a big enough house and you're blessed to have that, You know, go get yourself like a, you know, a couple of spare tires.
You know, what do I do with spare tires?
What do you do with them?
You throw them!
You know, and obviously, as I said before, the less rough cuts, and I'll tell you now, go see your doctor first.
I mean it.
Please don't get yourself hurt.
Like I have enough conditions that I wouldn't have known about until I got a checkup.
But seriously, if you have any kind of arthritis or heart problems, check that out first.
But spare tires are great.
I'll put in the article in there some of the things they suggest.
One of the other great things I like with strongman type conditioning is the unpredictability of it.
Back in the day, Joe, I had a friend of mine.
He had a big water pipe, like a PVC tube.
And he sealed it up and he put water in it.
And he left a little bit of air in there, obviously.
And you're like, well, why would he do that?
One, because it's really heavy, filled with water.
And it was so uneven.
It was unsteady.
Yes.
And he would pick it up.
He would keep it in the crook of his elbow.
He would press it over his head.
He would carry it.
He would flip it like a pole.
Now, you just, you know, you gotta be careful.
You don't want to take your own face off.
But He would, and he loved it.
He thought it was the greatest thing ever.
And he would do it for, you know, five and six minute segments and then take a little break.
And man, his heart was racing.
So, you know, tire flipping, pole flipping, but don't get anything into your head, but what, you know, fill it with water if you want.
Uh, what else?
They changed the, I used to work out in the gym on long Island.
I think it was an ocean side.
It was called the iron Island.
And they had these big ship chains, you know, like, you don't want to talk about, right.
There's huge chains.
Yeah!
And you would pick those things up and you would drag those things.
So strongman type stuff is really applicable towards real life activity and the metabolic conditioning effects are almost directly transferable onto real life activities.
God forbid you need them.
A fight, if God forbid you find yourself in that situation.
You're attacked.
Again, you're in a car accident, you need to get out.
These are the kinds of things I really like.
So that was number one and I wholeheartedly agree.
Number two is bodyweight circuits, and the nice part about bodyweight circuits for metabolic conditioning, for what we call GPP, general physical preparedness, the nice part about bodyweight circuits, Joe, is you don't need any equipment.
You can't at least, but you don't even need a lot of space.
Bodyweight circuits, what does that mean?
Bodyweight squats, push-ups, Bear crawls.
I'm not a huge fan of bear crawls because they're kind of rough on your shoulders, and if you have any kind of arthritis or joint problems, they're probably not great for you.
But in the piece I'm going to put in the show notes, you'll see some suggested bodyweight circuits, some burpees, you know, squat jumps, squat thrusting, those kinds of things.
Really, really cool stuff.
And the nice part about it is you don't need any equipment.
You can move from exercise to exercise seamlessly.
You don't have to worry about equipment stations or any setup.
And you can do it for three-minute rounds, you can do a Tabata style, we do 20 seconds on, 10 second break, 20 seconds on, 10 second break.
You can do five-minute rounds, six-minute rounds, three-minute rounds, and there's really good stuff.
So I'm actually a pretty big fan of bodyweight circuits for a warm-up.
But that was number two, really solid types of metabolic conditioning.
Number three, sled combos.
This is hard, you have to go buy a sled and you need a lot of space.
What's a sled?
You'll see these things like the prowler, where it literally looks like a sled with handles on it, and you grab the handles and you just push the sled and you load it down with weight.
You may say, oh, that doesn't sound too hard.
Give it a try.
Anyone who's used a prowler knows exactly what I'm talking about.
It's one of those things, you'll go, I can't breathe!
It's rough, but it is expensive.
Not too expensive, but it requires a good amount of space to push.
You can't push it in your living room, but that's number three.
Number four, sprints.
This one's rough because if you have bad knees like me and you're older, I'm 43, it's probably not an option for you, but for you younger folks out there, sprints are great.
I mean, I'm not a big fan of jogging, but sprints are really good.
They'll get your heart rate through the roof.
Five, medicine ball throws.
This is terrific.
You know what a medicine ball is, Joe?
You've seen those, right?
You get like a, I think we have a 12-pounder here.
My wife has one, but you get like a 20-pounder.
You can get them pretty heavy.
And they're just basically leather balls filled with, you know, enough stuff to make them heavy enough, enough stuffing in there.
And you take them and you throw them and you slam them and you push them overhead.
And you just, again, you do rounds.
And that, another really incredible form of dynamic conditioning.
Um, six complexes, barbell complexes.
These are a little more complicated.
This is definitely not for newbies or any kind of rookies lifting.
So, but if you're an experienced, uh, you know, uh, if you're an experienced lifter, you've been in the gym a little while, you, you know, you're, you're a wrestler.
If you've got some background in physical activity, you might want to give these a try.
Complexes are, I remember in, when I used to go to CrossFit once in a while, we did the bear complex, which was, this is tough.
I hated this.
It was a deadlift.
Into a front squat, into an overhead press, behind the neck, into an overhead press again, and it was like back down, back down to the floor.
I may be missing something in there, but it was really, really tough.
And you do that, you know, you don't do it with maximum weight.
Obviously, you're doing it for metabolic conditioning, but I'm a big fan of complexes.
But you have to be really careful.
That's not the kind of thing I would recommend if you're a beginner.
But again, all this is in the piece.
The seventh one, they had something different.
I forget what it was, but it wasn't, I didn't think it was that great.
So I added my own in this, and that was kettlebells, which I talked about during the last Rough Cuts episode we did.
Super cheap to buy.
A kettlebell is like a cannonball with a handle.
I mean, really, it looks like a cannonball.
You've been using those as long as I've known you.
Oh, man, you still remember my basement?
We used to do the show in the basement.
I had the whole ensemble of kettlebells.
I had everything from a, what, 20-pounder to a, I have a, right now I have an 82-pounder.
I use the 82 pounder and I love it.
And I like to do the, I told you in the last Rough Cuts, my favorite exercise in the world is the kettlebell swing because it's so applicable towards everything you do in real life.
And it's hard to control.
It just does it to your core, your back, your legs, your caboose, your hamstrings, everything, your entire hip complex.
I'll take the 82-pounder, and in the Secret Service when I was there, one of the PT tests, the physical fitness tests they had for the counter-assault team, our SWAT team, those are the guys in like the black ninja suits that are in our motorcade, their whole job is like to take the fight to the bad guy, right?
You know, the Secret Service agent's job, Joe, is to run.
Really?
It's not the fight.
It's to take the president and get the hell out of there.
We don't go, hey, Mr. President, stand by.
We're going to shoot it out with these guys.
That's not our job.
Our job is to get them the hell out of there.
That's it.
That's not the CAT team's job.
The CAT team's job, the SWAT guys, they are really, it's really tough to get in there.
They're all special agents.
You have to take an extra PT test and shooting test to get in.
A lot of guys don't make it.
Their job is to stay and duke it out and to fight with those guys.
Why?
To keep them bogged down while we get the hell out of Dodge, you know?
I've never heard of them before.
Yeah, counter-assault team.
Matter of fact, one of the saddest, most disappointing moments in my Secret Service career, it used to be the counter-assault team, the SWAT guys we had, used to be part of the Presidential Protective Division, the President's Detail, which is a really small number of Secret Service agents, by the way.
So the way the Secret Service would work... Joe, just remind me, this was about the kettlebells.
I don't want to lose my place here because it's an important story there.
Gotcha.
But the CAT team, the way it used to work is after five to seven years as a special agent in the field doing criminal investigations in the Secret Service, you'd be eligible to go to the President's Detail.
Now, not a lot of people get there.
I don't know, maybe one in ten.
I'm not really sure with the number, but it wasn't a lot.
You'd have to take a test to get there.
Once you were on the President's Detail, only the President's Detail guys could try out for the counter-assault team.
Now, I kind of thought that was a better way of doing it because it instilled some Presidential Protection Division discipline on the guys.
Those guys are different.
Once you're on the President's Detail, it's almost like a paramilitary organization.
They eventually pulled that out after the Department of Homeland Security took over the Secret Service, pulled the CAT team out of the President's Detail, made it a separate division in the Secret Service.
So basically, Joe, anybody could try out for it.
Now, again, I thought that was a mistake, but why that was devastating to me, because my boss came in, I remember this guy, Ken, and he's like, Dan, I got bad news for you, because I wanted to do CAT.
And he says, listen, they pulled CAT out of PPD, the Presidential Protective Division, so, you know, you have to pick.
I'm like, what do you mean I have to pick?
I want to do both.
Everybody else got to do both.
You know, you could go to President's Detail Joe and then do Kat.
Like, no, you can't.
That's not the way it works anymore.
And I was like, what?
I was horrified.
My whole career, that's all I wanted to do.
And that was, you know what though?
It was some of the best advice I ever got though.
Because he said to me, which was genius.
I said, well, Ken, what do I do?
And he said, you have to ask yourself not what you want, but what you can live without.
And I said, that's great advice.
He said, can you live without doing the president's detail?
I said, no.
He said, there you go.
That's your answer.
And he said, can you live without doing cat?
I said, unfortunately, yes.
And he said, there you go.
Simple answer.
So that's what I did.
That's how I wound up on the presidential protection division, other than the counter assault team.
So, just an interesting side note.
A little bit about me on Thanksgiving.
Kettlebells.
Kettlebells, yes.
I didn't want to forget that.
So, the test, one of the tests when you're on the CAT team is the kettlebell test.
They take the 53-pound kettle and you have to snatch it over your head, which is like a swing, but you rip it over your head, too.
And you have to do basically a certain amount in 10 minutes.
Well, my shoulders are bad, so I don't snatch it overhead anymore.
I just do the swing.
But man, is it a brutally effective exercise.
I mean, you do the 10-minute swing test.
You don't have to use the 82-pound.
That's what I use.
I like it because it develops really explosive hip power.
And when you grapple like I do and you do a lot of ground fighting, folks, the hips are everything.
It's not something, it's not a little thing.
Explosive hip power, being able to bridge off the ground, being able to blast an opponent up in the air off your own back on the ground.
Hip strength is everything, and there's nothing better than the kettlebell swing because it's really just a hip hinge.
So that was number seven.
I threw that in there, the kettlebells, and if you can afford to buy one, go watch some videos.
I think Dragon Door has a bunch of videos up.
I mean, really, you can go to YouTube and just put kettlebell swing.
There's probably a million videos on how to do it, but check that out.
In my opinion, it is the single most effective exercise out there today, the kettlebell swing.
It'll change your whole life.
Your whole body composition will change just doing that.
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All right, talking about the best types of conditioning, you know, my wife started CrossFit recently and I read an article as well that I'll put in the show notes because someone sent to me some suggestions for women.
I'm just going to make this portion of it quick, not because I haven't, you know, it's just it's easy to explain.
I love CrossFit.
I think it's terrific.
I think it's really terrific for women.
CrossFit is a, they don't call themselves gyms, they call themselves boxes, but they use a lot of the things I just talked about with metabolic conditioning.
Strong man type stuff, muscle ops, complexes, bear crawls.
And I saw an article on TMAG, I'll put out there for my female listeners, which is really, really good.
And the gist of the article, Joe, is why women need to train harder than dudes.
Harder!
Not with lesser intensity, but more intense.
I said to my wife, you've got to read this, it's such a great piece.
And the core of the article is, That women, their hormonal profile obviously is different than men.
They have one-tenth of the testosterone.
Testosterone is going to lead, as you probably figured out, testosterone is one of the primary muscle-building hormones.
So if you have one-tenth of the level of testosterone, you're going to have a tougher time hardening up those muscles.
And don't worry about bulking up.
I hear a lot of, you know, I have to worry about bulking up if I lift and, you know, some women don't want to look like male bodybuilders, you know.
Not an issue.
My wife is doing CrossFit now.
She's jacked.
She looks amazing.
So I really recommend CrossFit.
They're not like a sponsor or anything.
I think it's just a great program for women.
And one of the reasons is, like I said, they do the metabolic conditioning.
But in the piece that I'm going to put in the show notes that you really should check out, even if you're a guy and your wife's thinking about working out, It talks about how the hormonal profile women have that differs from men and their ability to work out with the same amount of intensity given the same amount of body weight can be compromised due to just different muscle structure.
It's a great piece on why you need to really slam it when you're a woman.
You really need to hit it really, really hard.
In a way, it's a little disappointing.
If I was a woman, I'm like, damn, I gotta work out harder than the dudes.
And hey, listen, we only do facts on the show.
And read the piece, you'll be pretty convinced.
So I thought it was fascinating.
I sent it on to my wife because she really hits it hard in CrossFit.
She's like, you think I'm working out too hard?
And I sent her this piece and I said, not according to this piece.
You need to work out even harder.
So just the facts, folks, right?
Just like Joe Friday.
But CrossFit's a great option for women, I think.
All right, another great piece I'll put in the show notes.
I'm gonna talk about some firearm stuff in a second, too.
I had an interesting thought I wanted to get out there.
But I'll put two pieces in there.
One about carbs, carb intake at night, and one about protein intake for weightlifters.
First one, the carb intake at night.
Joe, very bad.
I know we talked about this last time.
I love the John Berardi massive eating.
All you have to do is Google it.
I had it in the show notes for the last... If you look up Rough Cuts 1 on those show notes, the link is in there.
But Berardi's Massive Eating Plan is really amazing.
And the whole idea of it is that, in a nutshell, don't mix your carbs and your fat in any significant amounts.
But don't by any means... And remember, talk to your doctor first if you have some kind of colon cancer issue.
I'm certainly not going to suggest you eat 25 pounds of red meat.
But for those of you who've done that and are comfortable with it, the gist of massive eating is carbs aren't your enemy, fat isn't your enemy.
Carbs and fat at the same time in big amounts are your enemy.
That's why french fries are so bad for you.
What do you have?
You have essentially a relatively simple carbohydrate in the potato fried in oil at the same time.
So the carbohydrate In your system elevates your insulin levels.
Insulin is a storage hormone.
And what are you storing?
The fat, the fried oil that's flowing through your system now because you ate french fries and donuts.
Now, having a storage hormone is not necessarily a bad thing.
Insulin, if you're eating your carbs and you're eating them with protein.
You want to store some carbs, you want to store, you know, for energy, you want to store your protein in the form of muscle tissue.
The amino acids break down and form new muscle tissue.
So, if you read the Massive Eating Plan, I covered it in the first Rough Cuts, and again the link is in there, so I'm not going to cover it again.
But the article I read about carb intake at night is exactly that, Joe.
That at night, you want to be very careful about eating a lot of carbs because you're sleeping, your activity level is obviously lower, and your body is going to naturally, as a condition of the lower activity level, break down and utilize a lot of fat that you had stored up for energy overnight, not carbs.
So if you stock up on carbs at night before you go to bed, and you eat, say, a big bowl of pasta, That the chances of you utilizing that and not storing it are pretty slim because you're not doing anything.
You're sleeping.
So you want to load your carbs where you're insulin sensitive earlier in the day when your activity level is higher so your body can use them.
So it's a really good piece.
I'll put that in there.
And that's just, it's a simple, the gist of it is go easy on the carbs at night.
What you want to do is eat higher fat, high protein meals.
That's just what I do at night.
I'll eat a whole ribeye, fat and everything.
Folks, if you've never seen me eat, it's a disturbing thing to watch.
Yes, it is.
Joe knows, right?
Joe, can I eat or can I eat?
I remember that one time, I think, I don't know if I was with you at WCBM, but that guy who comes in with the coffee, and I think he asked me like, hey, you want anything from McDonald's?
Remember that guy?
What's that guy's name?
I don't even remember his name.
That was Mike, yeah.
Mike the intern.
And I was like, yeah, man, can I get like five egg McMuffins or something?
Dude was like, are you kidding?
I'm like, no, no, no.
I eat like a horse, man.
You've never seen anybody eat like me.
But I follow the Burrardi Massive Eating Plan, and I'm 43, and I still got a pretty damn good set of abs.
So, you know, things are working out all right.
People loved yesterday's show.
Second article is about protein intake.
This is always a big controversy.
Oh, is too much protein going to damage my kidneys?
Folks, If you have normal functioning kidneys and you don't have any kind of compromised condition, the research is no, it will not, but there's no need to overdo it.
The article I'll put in there says, listen, if you're a natural weightlifter, meaning you're not on steroids, you're not on PEDs, performance enhancing drugs or anything like that, a gram of protein per pound of body weight is all you need.
You're 200 pounds, that means 200 grams.
Now that's a good amount of protein, folks.
I mean, remember, a glass of milk is only about 10 grams of protein.
So you're talking about like 20 glasses of milk.
But a full-blown steak, ribeye, you probably get about 35-40 grams in that.
You have to be a bit of a food scientist, and it depends how serious you are about your body.
So you need about, if you're looking to build muscle, you need to fit in during the course of the day about a gram of protein per pound of body weight.
So for, say, an average-sized guy, 160, 170 pounds, you're talking about 170 grams.
Average woman between, I don't know, 100 and 120, you're looking about 120 grams of protein a day if you want to maintain your muscle.
Any more, and in the piece he talks about how more can be damaging.
That doesn't make sense.
More protein, more muscle.
No, no, not necessarily, folks.
They talk about how more protein can lead at times to what they call gluconeogenesis, where your body learns to convert excess protein, Joe, just to forms of carbohydrates that you can use to burn.
You don't want to do that.
You don't want to teach your body to burn protein.
You want to teach it to store it as muscle.
So it's actually a pretty good piece and take a look at that.
While you're here, Dan, are these whey protein supplements okay that you mix in water and shakes and stuff?
Here's the thing, whey protein isolate, there's two kinds.
There's whey protein isolate and whey protein concentrate.
Whey protein isolate is super expensive.
You can get it though.
I mean, a lot of protein supplements have it.
You just have to look at the back and the ingredients.
It'll say whey protein isolate.
Whey protein concentrate is a little less expensive.
A lot of the stuff is filtered.
Here's the difference here.
Whey protein isolate is a really, really fast acting protein.
So if you're getting back from the gym, And you just smoked it in a workout.
You were there an hour and a half.
You want a fast-acting protein because your body is probably breaking down muscle tissue at this point at a relatively rapid rate.
So I use a product called Surge, Biotest Surge.
It's a really good post-workout drink.
It's expensive.
It's not cheap.
But you definitely don't want to take Gatorade after a workout.
You may want to take a Doring if you're in an intense workout and need electrolytes, say you're at a football game or something like that.
But after a workout, you want something that has carbohydrates and a whey protein isolate because it's fast acting.
Now, about 45 minutes after that, I get a little scientific with this.
I know it's driving the audience crazy.
Well, I was going to ask you about the timing.
I know there's a timing issue here.
Whey protein isolate right away.
I mean, if you can slam it down your throat the minute you're done with the workout, a good post-workout drink with whey protein, actually do it.
30 minutes to an hour, 45 minutes, whatever.
After that, I take another protein drink in whole milk and I make sure it has casein in it.
Casein is milk protein and that is a very slow digesting protein.
The reason is, so now you get a quick hit back into the muscles, Joe.
And then the casein, now as your body's breaking down muscle tissue over the day, the casein is slowly filtering into your bloodstream to rebuild and rebuild and rebuild.
So that's how I do it, and folks, I gotta tell you, even at 43, it has worked swimmingly for me.
I mean, I'm not by no means a professional bodybuilder of the Lee Haney, Dorian Yates type, but for a guy who has relatively poor genetics, I'm very comfortable with how everything's worked out, and it's really, I think, due to just meticulous nutrition and timing.
So it's a good question.
Whey protein isolate's great, it's expensive, but it works right after the workout, and then after that, Take something with casein in it, and that'll give you a little more of a slow burn, which will keep you from melting, especially if you're working out really, really hard.
Thanks.
Yeah, I do two-a-days, too, sometimes, because I go into jujitsu at night, so I need it.
I need that constant energy source.
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Alright, a couple more quick things here.
So, I get a lot of questions about firearms and firearms training, and just a couple of things on here.
We did a lot of simunition training in the Secret Service, and I can't speak highly enough for this stuff.
Now, I don't know If you have access to this type of training.
Well, what is it first?
I should probably tell you what simunition training is.
Assuming you all know.
Simunition firearm is a, it's built like a standard firearm.
So let's say, you know, we had Sig 229s in the Secret Service, Sig Sauer P229s.
It's the same gun.
It's just they swap out the barrel and the barrel fires a It's like a plastic bullet, Joe.
It hurts, believe me.
It's not gonna penetrate the skin, and it's filled with like a colored waxy material.
Well, why?
Because, you know, you change the colors, that way you know who hit who in a gunfight, right?
Now, when you play Simunitions, right, you put the face mask on, I mean, you put a, you know, because you'll get shot in the eye, it'll still take your eyeball out.
So you put all the padding on.
But one of the things I really enjoyed about Simunitions is, unlike target shooting, where you're shooting cardboard, cardboard never shoots back.
And you'll find out during Simunition training how much of your standard training is crap.
No, I'm serious, Joe.
Like, one of the things I noticed right away in Simunition's training is the use of cover.
Shooting behind cover.
So let's say, Joe, you know, you see it in the movies, you know, the cop gets behind the car.
And he's behind a wheel and they're in a gunfight.
He shoots and he ducks back and he shoots and he ducks back.
Folks, when you're in simunition training and you get popped in the hands a few times, the minute your hand even comes out from behind the car or from behind that wall, that hurts like a mm-mm.
It hurts bad, like really bad.
I'm talking about your hands.
Forget about a headshot.
I mean, you get it in a helmet, but it doesn't matter.
You'd be dead in the real world.
But it hurts.
My point is, you learn right away like, gosh, when I was doing target practice from behind cover, I had this thing all wrong.
When you're shooting from behind cover or behind a wall, you have to stand... Joe, this makes almost no sense.
You would think, because you've seen it in the movies.
Like, say you're shooting around a corner, right?
Joe, you've seen this in the movies a thousand times.
What does a guy do?
He, like, hugs the wall, right?
He hugs the wall, and then, boom, he turns and he shoots again.
That's the worst thing to do.
And once you start doing simunitions, you get popped a few times, you'll figure it out.
What do they say down here in South?
Right quick, you'll figure it out.
Right quick.
The way to do it...
Is to back away from the wall.
Now you may say that makes no sense.
No, trust me.
Watch some videos on it.
You'll see an effective use of cover and concealment.
The farther away you are from the wall, you can start to see the bad guy, but he can't see you.
Or all he can see from you is a little bit of the gun barrel.
The distance gives you the perfect angle to be able to fire at him, obviously around the wall.
You don't want to shoot the wall, you want to shoot at the other guy.
The distance gives you the ability to fire at him without him being able to hit you.
And I know that doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense, but if you watch some videos on it, distance is your friend from that cover and concealment.
And one of the things in Sims you learn is that.
So my point I was trying to make is, if you have the opportunity to do any kind of live Simunition training at a shooting center, whatever it may be, or, I know this sounds crazy, Even like paintball type training.
I get it, they're paintball guns, they're not real firearms, but folks, training under stress.
You will see quickly how much of what you learned in the real world is really junk.
I'm serious.
I mean, Sims, we did it every day, and it was the best damn training I ever did in my life.
You figure out how to squeeze your caboose behind a fire hydrant.
We did this one thing in the Secret Service's Hogan's Alley type thing, Joe, where you're walking down an alley.
And live, the OPFOR, the opposition force, the bad guys, the Secret Service training staff instructors, They pop out of everywhere with these sim rounds and you just have to go find cover right away and start shooting back.
Dude, there was this one time, all that was left was a fire hydrant.
Folks, I'm 6'1", 220.
I was about 180 back then.
They were like, Dan, the students I was with, they were like, I've never in my life seen a 6'1", 180 pound guy fit behind a fire hydrant like that.
Let me tell you, when your butt is getting plugged by simunition and you got purple welts all over your caboose and your legs, you'll fit behind that damn fire hydrant right away.
Yeah, I'm dead serious, man.
You know the fire hydrant gel on the side that has the little outshoot with a hose connection?
I was using that for my head.
I'm like, I'm not getting hit.
I'm not getting hit.
Dude, it hurts, man.
So if you can, paintball, simunition, this stuff has some applicability towards real life.
You'll learn how to operate in a red zone where your heart's beating really fast, and you'll realize quickly how much what you learned shooting at paper targets really stinks.
I get asked a lot what I carry.
I have a lot of guns.
I carry, because it's Florida, Glock 43, which is a compact 9mm.
I really, really like Glock.
I was going to say cheap, but I don't mean cheap like they're built well.
They're cost effective is probably a better way.
Cheap has some negative connotations.
They're very cost effective.
They're not going to break your bank account.
You can hammer nails with the damn things and they still fire.
You know, I don't recommend you do it, but there's videos of people pouring, like, Coca-Cola down the barrel of their gun.
It still shoots, no problem.
Sand in it, you'll at least get a couple rounds off.
Again, you shouldn't do that, but these are really, really good guns.
I like my Glock 43.
It's a 9mm.
I carry the Hornady Critical Defense Ammo, which is really good.
But, I also... If you were to ask me, in a perfect world, I would.
And I carry in a pocket holster, right?
But I have a pancake as well.
A pancake holster is a holster that goes on your belt.
Like, you know, you've seen, you know, just standard bolster you take from the side.
In a perfect world, I would carry a SIG 229.
We had it in the Secret Service.
It's a .357 SIG round.
You lose a couple rounds.
There's 12 in the magazine, one in the pipe, so you get 13 rounds total, so you'll lose a few.
The Glock has a .357 SIG that has a 16-round magazine, so you'll lose three rounds.
But I really, really like the SIG 229.
My humble opinion, if you can pancake, because you're not going to fit that in your pocket.
It's a full-size gun.
If you can pancake it, meaning keep it on your belt, because I'm in Florida.
People barely wear clothes in Florida.
Seriously.
The state's a big nudist colony because it's 95 degrees every day.
There's nowhere to hide your gun.
But if you live in a state that has four seasons and you can carry with a jacket, The Sig 229, they don't sponsor the show or anything, but in my humble opinion, it's the Cadillac of hand pistols.
I shot with that thing for a year in the Secret Service for years.
The round is amazing.
It is so powerful, that .357 Sig round, and the gun just shoots like a BB gun.
The recoil is so natural.
It's just an incredible gun.
Unfortunately, right now, I don't have one.
You have to turn yours in in the Secret Service.
The NYPD gave me my gun back.
But I wish I did, because I'm going to get one eventually.
It's just such a terrific gun.
My only suggestion with the Glocks, by the way...
I love Glock, but if you go with the Compact 43, which is a great gun, I highly recommend it.
Change out the sights.
They come with these really crappy white sights.
I shouldn't say crappy, but they're just, you know, the Glock keeps their product cost effective and the sights are not great.
Trade them out for some Trijicons or some night sights and you'll be fine.
It'll cost you a hundred extra dollars or so, but yeah, the sights are, it comes with these white sights that I really don't like.
But that's my only complaint.
Otherwise, it's a great gun.
I can't recommend it highly enough.
Alright, one last story here.
So, I was talking to my wife the other day.
We were watching a movie.
No, no, we were watching a TV show.
And a guy in the TV show was trying to choke the other guy.
And I said to my wife, you know, it's amazing how basic things, like learning how to defend yourself
via choke, I'm not suggesting you practice this on your friends, please.
You know, seriously, you could get someone killed or hurt.
But I love mixed martial arts and jujitsu.
And I can tell you, especially for smaller-framed guys out there, smaller-framed guys and women out there,
I say smaller-framed because if you're attacked and you're subjected to attack by a guy
who's average size or bigger, you're not going to have the strength.
I mean, that's just, I'm just giving you the facts.
That's why I said smaller frame guys.
You really need to learn at least one like basic choke or joint lock to, you know, to get yourself out of the situation and live.
And one of the things I saw on the TV is you watch TV and they always do the choke the wrong way.
So I was saying to Paula, I'm like, let me show you how this thing actually works.
And there's a big difference, folks, and they teach you this in jujitsu on like day one and ground fighting, between a windpipe choke, which is very dangerous.
I would never practice that on anyone.
You could seriously kill someone or hurt someone.
Do not do that.
And a carotid choke, which is basically a blood choke.
A windpipe choke is what you see in the movies where they they you know what you've seen this Joe where they get the the the bony part of their their lower arm and they put it up against the guy's neck and they take the other and they grab it and they lean back and Try to suffocate the guy.
Try to suffocate the guy.
That's very, very, very dangerous.
I mean, you can collapse someone's windpipe and you can seriously kill them.
You could do some serious damage.
You know, folks, my neck is super thick from years of getting choked in jiu-jitsu and I was in a class the other night with a new guy, really nice guy, younger guy.
He's about my body weight and we were working on the guillotine choke And there were a couple times he got that windpipe.
This is a totally new guy.
He got that windpipe choke.
And that's not what the guillotine is.
He did it by mistake.
And I was like, I mean, it really hurts.
Luckily, my neck is thick enough, but you do that hard enough, you can collapse someone's windpipe.
I highly, highly recommend if you ever are forced into a self-defense situation where you have someone's neck and you do not do that.
Seriously, you'll kill them.
You could potentially kill them.
The way to effectively choke to stop a fight or stop someone from attacking you if you get it, and if you're in law enforcement, by the way, I just want to be crystal clear on this.
Most of these are banned, so this is not for you.
You have to follow whatever your use of force guidelines are.
Seriously, a lot of this stuff is banned by police departments.
I don't think that's the best advice.
The windpipe choke, yes, but this one not.
A carotid choke is different.
You can look this up you can go to any kind of martial arts school and check it out But you know I know Joe Rogan talks about a lot of the stuff on his podcast, too You have to you know When you feel it and you're in a jujitsu school, you'll see what I'm talking about.
The way that works is the windpipe, rather than being on the forearm, Joe, the windpipe is in the crook of the elbow, which you say, well, how does that make sense?
Well, what it creates is it creates a V between your upper arm and your lower arm, and it actually protects the windpipe.
Because again, you crush that, you're gonna kill someone.
And which, besides the morals and ethics of doing that, it's obviously a pretty crappy thing to do.
You're gonna, even if you crush their windpipe and they live, they're gonna sue the hell out of you.
With the carotid choke and the way jujitsu works is you get that in the crook of the elbow, so you almost protect it.
And the cinching of the V closes off the carotid arteries on both sides of the neck.
And within seconds, you'll see that the guy or the woman who's attacking you, there's nothing you can do.
It doesn't matter if you're on drugs, if you're on LSD, cocaine, crack.
The computer?
Once it stops getting that blood flow, you'll see they start to get lightheaded quickly, and hopefully you don't have to put them to sleep, but they'll go to sleep within, most people say, five to six seconds if you cinch it well enough.
But go seek out an instructor who knows what they're doing.
I highly recommend everybody take up Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
Don't watch it on the internet and try it on your friends.
But I bring this up because you see a lot of this stuff in the movies and you get the impression, just like with firearms, that this stuff works in real life, and it doesn't.
It doesn't work in real life.
I think of Rocky 3 when he's on Hulk Hogan's neck.
Remember the thunder lips, the ultimate male?
That stuff doesn't work.
You have to, there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.
And everybody should know at least a few self-defense techniques.
So remember, go seek out a good qualified instructor, learn a few joint manipulations, and learn what the difference is between a very, very dangerous windpipe choke and a karate choke.
So you, God forbid, defend yourself if you had to in a situation.
You don't have to be a black belt in jujitsu to know a couple of things.
All right, folks, I appreciate it.
I hope you all have a happy Thanksgiving.
I hope today's show was light enough for you.
I tried not to bog you down with too much politics.
But tomorrow, we will be back with, of course, some hard-hitting commentary, as we always do.
So thanks again, folks.
See you all tomorrow.
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