Cluster B Capture-Collapse Theory is a term I'm coining to describe the societal falling apart that we're currently seeing; where most institutions have been captured by Cluster B Personality Disorders, who then go on to destroy them from within.
This, of course, I, your loquacious and handsome host, Leo M. J. Arini, with my good friend Big L. How are you doing tonight?
Good as can be.
Now, I got, I just read something which blew my frickin' mind.
Um.
So, you know all those reports about the influenza disappearing this year?
Yep.
Not horseshit.
Not they are measuring influenza as COVID to juke the numbers.
Like, it's legitimately gone.
Yep.
For one thing, influenza tends to hit babies and even like young people as well.
Yeah.
Those deaths have disappeared because of COVID.
Okay.
And apparently there's ecological niche fighting.
Like, I'm going to have to restart the tablet, guys.
Yeah, like basically the different flus that affect us at different times of the year, they kind of fight with each other.
Okay.
Right?
Like, when one flu, when one influenza is present, another one can't get a foothold.
Yeah.
And so it looks like COVID pushed the flu off of the map.
Rather than the flu just being counted as COVID.
Exactly.
Like, it's not, like, this isn't, like, we are pretty damn, we're pretty darn certain that the flu went away.
Okay, that's interesting.
I mean, I'm a little skeptical because I think that it makes more sense that they're just lying about the flu numbers.
Me too, when I first saw the title, I'm like, horseshit.
But no, I was reading into it.
Yeah, it's like we don't have the same profile of victims that the influenza gives.
The guy went on to speculate that the influenza actually goes back to the 1918 And that's it displaced it may have Like, we don't have evidence of any of this, right?
Just that we also don't have evidence of the regular flu seasons before that.
Not strong evidence anyway.
And so there's this kind of this idea that influenza popped up.
It was really bad when it first hit.
And then we've just been having the Spanish flu every flu season ever since.
And it just got pushed off by COVID, which it turns out is far less deadly than the influenza.
Oh man, take it through.
Yeah, like huge update.
I mean, I guess maybe COVID is worse, right?
Although it does seem to only kill old people.
Which, I mean, if you're going to have a disease killing people, might as well be killing the old people.
Well, I don't even know if that's true.
I mean, it is true statistically, but I think it has more to do with vitamin D. Old people are chronically low in vitamin D because they don't go out in the sun.
Really?
Obese people are chronically low in vitamin D because it gets stored in your fat rather than getting into your circulation.
Okay, 19 viewers already.
Yeah.
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So that said, oh, we're going to be talking about.
I'm coining the term Cluster B capture collapse theory.
Yeah.
That's kind of what we're going to be talking about.
But first, Big L has an exciting, exciting story from earlier today.
Yeah.
Let me just go into it.
So they just recently returned to requiring masks here in Alberta.
Overnight.
It was an overnight decision.
Yeah, like midnight they declared it.
Yeah.
I talked to one guy and he said, yeah, I got the call in the morning by my boss.
You got to wear a mask now.
And he's like, yeah, I wouldn't have been wearing a mask if I didn't get that call first thing in the morning.
Like, that's how quick it happened.
Yeah.
No discussion, nothing.
Just pop, middle of the night.
And I want to know if it is legal, right?
Like, I don't know.
Is Alberta?
Do you know is it still under a state of emergency?
Because if they lived at the state of emergency, I don't think they can do this fucking random mask mandate.
Well, and the thing is that both of us have said, no, fuck that.
I refuse to go back into lockdown.
I played nice for the first year because people were scared.
18 months.
Yeah, 18 months.
I played nice.
I didn't want to make a hassle for the people at the grocery store.
I'm not doing it again.
I'm not wearing a damn mask.
I mean, like, if it's an employment sort of a thing, right?
Like, if you got to work, you got to work.
But I'm not wearing a mask to the store.
Arrest me.
Fine me.
Do whatever you're going to do.
I'm not going back to it.
I go to the store.
I smile at everybody.
I look them in the eyes.
I don't wear a mask.
The hell with that.
And you've been doing the same, and I almost got into a scrap earlier today.
Yeah, I should probably go from the beginning.
Day one of the mandate, my wife and daughter and I are on our way to the store, grocery store, and my wife says, oh no, we forgot our masks.
And I said, we don't need masks.
We're not wearing masks.
So.
Alpha.
So anyway, we walk into the store.
And, you know, it's a little bit scary, I guess you'd say, or at least nerve-wracking just to see what happens.
I don't know what's going to happen, right?
Both me and my wife like to follow the rules, especially my wife.
And anyway, I walk in and some fucking guy, some boomer guy, like, excuse me, you have to wear a mask to enter the building.
And I just said, no.
Like, yes, you do.
Sorry, which building was this?
This was Safeway.
Yeah, so you gotta, you gotta, you gotta wear a mask to enter the building.
And I just said, no.
Grocery store.
You guys don't have a Safeway.
Yeah, sorry, grocery store, yeah.
So he's like, and this is fucking day one, right?
Of an overnight, like immediately, like, the weenus is just right there.
Just bright forcing the rules.
Ready to do it.
Been waiting his whole life to bully somebody.
So he says, actually, sir, it was mandated last night that you have to wear.
I said, no.
And then he says, it's the law.
You have to.
I said, no.
And then he just called me an idiot.
Well, actually, after, well, the third time I said no, because he was following me, right?
He's following me around the fucking store.
This fucking grocery guy.
It wasn't even security.
He was like a guy stalking the shelves.
Some fucking boomer guy.
And I turned around and I said, Jason Kenney does not wear the mask.
He does not social diss dudes.
That's our premiere, by the way.
Yeah, I said, none of our leaders follow the rules that they set.
Why do you expect me to follow the rules that they set?
And then he just called me an idiot.
So I called him a fascist.
And then he went and went away and licked his wounds.
Which is super effective, by the way.
Calling people fascists, apparently, when they're being fascist.
Yeah.
He was very shocked by that, which was interesting.
But anyway, today, I get in the elevator, my apartment building.
And there's a guy there not wearing a mask, chatting with him, shooting shit.
He's going to University of Calgary.
Just having a nice conversation.
Some fat fuck wearing a mask comes in.
Busy, busy elevator ride.
And he listens to us for a second, and then he interrupts.
He's like, you boys should be wearing a mask, just so you know.
Yeah, and you should lose weight, pal.
Yeah.
So I said, no.
I said, no, we shouldn't.
And then the younger guy that he got off the elevator.
And this fucking guy, so I'm going down to Parkade.
I didn't know where he was going if he was going to the ground level or parkade, but he follows me down to the parkade.
And he says, actually, it's the law, yada, yada, yada.
And I said, this is in your own damn building.
My own damn building, yeah.
I said, I'm not wearing a mask.
He said, you got to wear the mask, and if you don't like it, you can leave.
And I said, I said, fuck you, you can leave.
He said, I can live.
I live here.
I told him, I live here.
And then, oh, man.
Of course you do.
You're going to the damn parkade.
Yeah.
Yes.
There's no parking there for visitors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then he said, I'm going to report you.
I'm going to follow you home and report you.
And I turned around and said, I'm going to fucking report you for harassment.
So anyway, he, at that point, because he's following me, right?
He was following me.
So I turned around.
I said, I'm going to fucking report you for harassment.
And then he backed off a bit.
He's like, well, people, old people are dying.
I don't even agree with that.
Don't do shit.
Yeah, he says, I don't agree with these laws.
This is an amazing thing to me, though.
I don't agree with these laws, but it's because people like you that don't follow the law, that means basically, means we're never going to get our rights back.
And I said, oh, he's like, oh, yeah, that's me.
I'm going around taking your rights from you.
That's me.
I did that.
Oh, my God.
So anyway.
Like, what a little black hole of logic.
Oh, exactly.
It doesn't work, but because you're not doing it, old people are dying, and so we won't get our rights back.
Just comply harder or jab me down.
Yeah, so he's like, well, at least I'm doing my part.
I'm like, yeah, you're a fucking saint.
You're a fucking saint, buddy.
So anyway, he called me an idiot, which seems to be the thing that they do.
And I called him a fascist.
And he's like, I'm not a fascist.
I'm not a fascist.
I said, yes, you are.
You are a fucking fascist.
You would have been the first one shoving the Jews into boxcars.
Yeah.
So he was actually leaving at that point when I said, no, you are.
You're a fucking fascist.
That's what you are.
So he turned back around.
He's like, I don't even believe in these laws.
Then why are you in the middle of the map?
I'm not a fascist.
So yeah, so I said, oh, I said, oh, so I guess you're just a collaborator.
You're great.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Collaboration will not get us out of this.
Yeah.
Oh, did I tell you, I heard back from a job I was applying to?
They asked me to fill out a vaccination status form.
Yeah.
So then I'm not comfortable with that.
Yeah.
Good.
Like I was polite, but like no, I'm not doing that.
That's none of your business what my vaccination status is.
And don't say that you're not or you are.
Just say that I have privacy concerns about this.
I think it's overreach.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
No, I'm not going to collaborate.
Yeah.
I'm not.
Fuck it, guys.
I need a job right now.
Like, comment, subscribe.
No, like, I seriously need a job right now.
Yeah.
But I am not.
I am not going to do that.
That is absolute horseshit.
It is not your boss's business if you got the flu vaccine or not.
It is completely irrelevant for the, like, you know, there's, I'm all about being reasonable, right?
Yeah.
If you were working in healthcare or something like that, like, conceivably, conceivably, you know, if you worked at an old age home and they asked you to get the flu vaccine, that would be reasonable.
Well, I would say more reasonable.
Yeah, it's still kind of a gray area.
But you know what?
I'm not going to pick a fight over that.
It's, but no, this is absolutely horseshit.
I'd be working with technology.
And they're like, oh, well, some of our clients.
Well, fuck your clients.
It's none of their goddamn business.
Yeah.
What your employees are doing on the weekends.
Yeah, I had another con.
Not so, not a conflict, but an interesting conversation there, old man.
I had my baby, wife and baby.
People love to talk to you, and you got your cute baby.
You know, we're talking about baby stuff.
It's been a great conversation.
And then he started talking about how awful COVID is and how much the unvaccinated are costing Albertan taxpayers every day.
And then he was like, and you're, I know you must be vaccinated.
You got that beautiful baby you got to protect.
No.
Yeah, I'm like, no, sorry, yeah.
And it was funny because like he was talking, he's like, oh, well, don't you know this one case, this one case where a mother died and there's no father and now the baby has to go to an orphanage.
You don't want that to happen to your child.
Yeah, that's what happens if we get vaxxed.
Yeah.
And it was funny.
It was funny because my wife was like, just kind of like sheepishly looking away, like, you know, didn't want to talk, right?
Don't want to.
We didn't arrive as confrontational.
Well, yeah, and I also, it's like, he was a nice, he was a nice old man, right?
Right.
You don't want to.
You don't want to be like, well, actually, you're an idiot.
But, well, anyway, he's like, hey, in the conversation saying, you know, I'm sorry that I'm sorry that I'm embarrassing you, but I think it's necessary that I need to embarrass you on this on this matter.
You should have embarrassed him back.
Wow.
You know, if somebody's going to fucking tell me that I need to leave my own home.
How to raise your own damn children?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that just goes to show how fucking how meek I am.
You know, if that person's being a nice old man and he's just clearly delusional and he's fucking on death's door anyway, we'll be around next year.
He's going to get vaccinated.
But, you know, yeah, let it be.
But it was just funny.
My wife was laughing.
It's like, I wasn't embarrassed.
It might have been embarrassed for him.
You know?
Yeah, I walked into the mall the other day and needed to get some work done on a chain.
And, yeah, just made eye contact with everybody.
Nobody said anything.
Yeah, for the most part, people don't give a shit.
You're not wearing a mask.
And then those people that do, yeah, you know, take it.
I think don't go into nuclear right away.
Like I calling people a fascist, but if it gets heated, like, it was felt like we were going to, I'd throw down that second one, like, because he wasn't leaving.
And he was threatening to come to my home.
Yeah, that's harassment, man.
Yeah.
Somebody chasing you.
A hostile stranger is chasing you through the parking lot.
That's harassment.
Yeah.
And once again, it's like, dude, if you're worried about the damn mask, get the fuck away from me.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know.
This is the end of the lesson.
He's like, don't back, never back down.
Don't go to the nuclear option.
Don't go call people fascists right off the bat.
But fuck, if they won't leave you alone, it's very effective.
Right, right.
You're a fucking fascist.
Get out of here.
Get out of my face.
You know, I've got my little speech planned.
Yeah.
Sir, 20 years ago, I swore an oath to keep the true north strong and free.
And I consider it my duty to disobey tyrannical laws.
These masks do nothing to help anybody.
They are just alienating the citizenry.
Now, if you feel that you need to phone a police officer so that he can give me a $500 fine and give it to a premier, give it to a prime minister that isn't wearing a mask himself except for photo ops, if that's what you feel you need to do, you go right ahead.
Otherwise, please get out of my way.
I have business to conduct here.
Just trying to live your fucking life, right?
Yeah.
I was traveling down to the parking lot to get something for my car.
This fucker is like, oh.
Yeah, and the audacity to say, if you don't like it, you can leave.
Yeah, how about your group, buddy?
How many years have you served in the military cupcake?
Yeah.
Things are heating up fast, says Soilenio.
They are.
But I think now it's time for civil disobedience.
Yes.
It's been 18 months.
We played nice the first time.
Yeah.
Because I'm sorry, if you're still scared of COVID, it's been 18 months and nobody's dead.
Few old people are people die every damned year.
There's been no pandemic.
There is no excuse for any of this.
They are 100% vaxed in Gibraltar.
And guess what?
As soon as everyone is vaxed, massive spike in cases.
The vaccines do absolutely nothing.
Or I shouldn't say absolutely.
There's in some cases, some of the stats it looks like the vaccine actually makes you more susceptible to COVID.
Some of them say otherwise.
But it's a useless vaccine for a fairly harmless disease that might have pushed away influenza, saving lives.
Yep.
So no, it's time for civil disobedience.
Just become uncomfortable, folks.
And there are legal organizations out there that will get a fine, send your fine to rebel media.
As much as I don't trust Ezra Levant and Rebel Media, no, they're all we got.
They're all we got.
So go to them.
Thank you, Watcher of the Man.
You just donated one lemon.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The vax is killing young men in their teens and 20s.
Vox Dave was just reporting on that.
Yeah, good.
If you are below the age of 30, do not get this thing.
Okay?
And really below the age of 50.
Yeah, that's fucking pissing me off that they're testing it on infants.
They're testing it on.
They're testing it out.
Well, we love sacrificing Tamalik, don't we?
Yeah.
Six months.
They're trying to make it so six months and older can get the vax.
This is the newest push.
And it will go through.
It will go through.
And this is why I'm standing up wherever I can.
It's like, they'll take my baby.
They'll take her.
Oh, they would.
They will.
There's no doubt in my mind.
Every bit we give to them, the ratchet gets tighter.
Like, if they took the baby today, there'd be an outcry.
Mm-hmm.
But take her in a year and a half?
If we keep going at this rate, this is the slow slip into tyranny.
The shocking thing is it's not very slow.
No.
That's the only thing that's shocking.
Well, and so many people are willing to go along.
I actually had a boomer trying to tell me that the vaccine passport was a nice service the government was offering us because they care about it.
Oh, it's the boomers.
They fucking love it, eh?
this just pisses me off so much they are so afraid of death oh like my you know i have these two hippie um hippie boomer uncles that are total hippie dropouts And they're so on board with everything.
Everything.
And then you talk to them about how it's tyranny.
Oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
It's like, you're the fucking guy that told me to not trust the man.
You're the one that taught.
That was the only thing that abuse that they tried to teach me.
And like.
They're just basically stoned, broke, lifeless, deadbeats.
Like me without the hat.
Yeah.
Yeah, well.
Yeah, anyway.
Much worse.
much worse.
It's like, it's fucking...
Yeah, the archetypal...
You waste dirty hippie.
Yeah, you wasted your life.
He's like, you fucking wasted your life.
Like, this could be the only thing that makes your life worth a damn.
pile of piss yeah just just don't be a fucking stand up to what you used to say in your fucking 20s to 60s You know?
Your whole fucking life.
Make it mean something.
No, I'm scared.
Fucking boomer hippie.
You know, I used to work briefly, very briefly, I worked at motorcycle leather shops.
And the lady I was working for was an old hippie biker chick.
And she really recommended the movie Easy Rider.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Really?
Which I checked out.
I didn't think it was a very good movie.
Oh, it's one of the worst movies ever made.
Oh, thank you.
It's garbage.
I'm like, what was the point of that movie?
Oh, it's like, fuck your country, fuck your heritage.
Like, there's no plot to the damn movie.
Yeah.
And then just randomly, like, the movie ends when they're just driving down yet another highway and a couple of good old boys murder them for no fucking reason.
And it's just them driving around.
Being shitheads.
Yeah, they're not even that bad.
They're not as bad as the guys in Kerou Rack's on the road, who are, like, those two are just absolute shitheads.
They belong in prison.
Karourak should have gone to prison for that book.
But they're just being biker dudes.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, let's just drive down this road.
And nothing happens in the whole movie, and then they get murdered by Hicks because that's what Hicks are always doing is murdering random people.
Yeah, for no reason.
Yeah, it happens all the time in the South.
No, I lived in the South.
And so I, like, I. Everybody in the South thought I was a fag because of my Canadian accent.
And yet, I didn't find this out for like two months.
and i was at many house parties i was they shared beer with me but just like a is he a fag Toxic fag.
Nice.
So, no, they are.
And I'm talking like the poor area of the South, too.
Okay?
Like, real good old boys.
Totally welcoming.
They do not murder random people in the South.
That's just Jewish Hollywood saying that.
Yep.
Anyway, so here's the point of the story.
She recommends this movie about being a degenerate shithead.
I'm kind of a degenerate.
I like fear and loathing in Las Vegas.
I got some sympathy for that whole thing.
Yeah, I like that.
She was a corporate whore.
Yeah.
She was a corporate whore that loved her corporate rules.
And yet she thinks she's an ex-biker chick.
She is an ex-biker chick.
What the hell is wrong with these boomers?
Like they first they acted like irresponsible fucking hippies that betrayed their own nation.
They betrayed their own nation as kids.
And now they're standing up for the worst sort of tyranny that they were screaming about back then.
When, you know, I welcome the tyranny of that era.
Yeah.
It's nothing compared to what I'm saying.
I think I was kind of telling the this interaction today.
The guy I was talking to was probably like late 20s or maybe even younger.
Not wearing a mask.
And then this guy, actually the guy who was harassing me, he might not have been a boomer.
He might have been late Gen X, but he was older than me anyway.
But yeah.
You know, having this is what I've been doing, right?
I've been like, I've been talking to my neighbors.
And also, to add to the talking to the neighbors, it's like that's the first time I had a negative time talking to neighbors.
Usually people are fucking terrified.
Well, the guy.
He's fat.
He's a loser.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My neighbors are terrified.
I haven't talked to a lot, but the ones that I've gotten into long conversations with, you know, they're like, this is fucking fascism and it's terrifying.
And what do we do?
And, well, what we do is we don't comply.
And if you see, you know what?
If I see a cop hassling somebody for not wearing a mask, I'm going to non-threateningly approach them and shame the cop.
You know what?
I saw when the whole COVID thing started and tax revenue went down.
I saw a cop around the street corner from me with a radar gun.
So, you know, I came inside his grocery shop and I came inside, put my groceries away, went outside, and like I didn't get in his, I didn't cross the street, but I just shouted across the street, shame on you, officer.
People are losing their jobs.
People have no money, and you're stealing from them right now.
Shame on you.
You're a thief.
That's good.
I think I approve of that too.
And actually, I think he might have had his radar gun off.
Which I think I hope he understands.
But if he didn't, if he was just standing there because his boss told him to, but oops, nobody's fed today, boss.
Then I'm not including you on that list, officer.
Good for you.
Although he didn't respond to me, so who knows?
Yeah.
Clon McNoyes says, Lemmy of Mortarhead would have taken a jab if he was alive.
Yeah.
He might have.
Yeah, okay, but so what?
Yeah.
And let's see, Amadi recommends doing the ghost writing for like blog.
I've tried that.
It's so hard to find good money doing it, right?
Like the place I've tried, you've got a thousand Indians who can't speak English doing it for five cents an hour.
Davis is you're a great writer, though.
I always want to tell you that.
Thank you.
Because I think you undervalue your writing ability.
I don't get as much traction as I'd like.
Well, that's the thing, is like, it's hard.
It doesn't matter if you're a good writer, it's still hard to get traction.
I am working on a post, guys, about the topic of the stream, which we haven't even got to yet.
Which it's a very, it's going to be very detailed, but you like it so far.
Oh, yeah, it's great.
I was worried it was pedantic.
Oh, yeah.
Every time you write something, I guess it's good.
I still thought you should write more books.
I've got some ideas.
Got some ideas.
Should we jump onto the topic of the stream?
Yeah.
Sounds like it's good.
Now, This is something I have been talking about.
You guys know I've been talking about related, but I haven't heard it put this poignantly.
You linked me to a conversation stream.
Yeah.
Do you recall who it was by?
Benjamin Boyce.
B-O-I-C?
Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
He's the guy, for background, he started his career during the Evergreen bullshit.
Do you remember the Evergreen bullshit?
Oh, yeah.
You want to hear something funny?
Yeah.
I was on a message board, and as soon as I read about these, this was like one week before the huge blow-up happened.
I actually wrote a post saying this is nothing but the Adamite heresy from the third century, and these guys are going to wind up cannibalizing somebody.
And I got told off for being judgmental and all of that.
Boom!
Days later, Evergreen College, the students went absolutely nuts and started having show trials.
Like, think Bane in the Batman game.
Yes.
Yeah, that is the Evergreen debacle.
Pass me the vape juice.
Yeah.
Yeah, just to give background, Evergreen is a university.
Full of dirty hippies.
Full of dirty hippies that went full SJW and it was insane.
And Benjamin Boyce was basically a moderate at the time, and it just blew his mind.
So he started blogging about it and documenting it bit by bit, every bit of it.
And then after that, he's just talking about other social issues.
They're coming after left-wing Jewish professors as being Nazis.
Yeah.
Was that where Weinstein, was it the Weinstein guy?
Oh, Brett Weinstein?
Was he at Evergreen?
I don't know.
I think he was, but I'm not sure about that.
So he had a psychologist on.
Yeah.
Who was discussing Cluster B capture theory.
Which is.
This is something he made up.
But as a great, I thought it was very cool.
Well, I've discussed similar things.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, I've talked a lot about Cluster B's and about.
But I haven't pointed it out this pithily.
Explain it a bit, Cluster B's.
So the Cluster B's are the.
They are the narcissist, the psychopath, the histrionic, and the borderline.
And these people are so fundamentally evil.
I don't know if they have souls or not.
Okay?
You can't tell.
They are nothing but lies and manipulation.
They're like a clockwork mechanism that's sentient and devoted to evil.
They're the most dangerous personality disorders because the other personality disorders are generally thought as curable.
And cluster B is.
Well, you got cluster A.
Yeah.
Well, see, most of the personality disorders are a subset of mental disorders.
Yeah.
Mental disorders are everything from depression to schizophrenia.
It's like if you're depressed, you want to cure the depression.
Now, the personality disorders, this is a subset, A, B, and C.
A are the eccentric disorders, the schizotypals, like David Firf, one of my favorite artists, I think he's very schizotypal.
And they don't really want to be fixed either.
But they're just weird.
They're like, there's weirdos that like weird stuff and they like disrupting the normie equilibrium.
The wait, what's a 4-chin term?
Was that type C?
No, no, the autists, the internet autists, the weaponized autism is actually, I believe it's a cluster.
It's not autism, it's a cluster A.
It's an obsession over logical type things, right?
Who's everybody's favorite physicist?
The electric guy.
Tesla.
Okay.
Yeah, Tesla is absolutely a cluster A.
Yeah.
Right?
You can't run a civilization on cluster A's, but you need a few cluster A's to keep everybody else sane.
Cluster C is the obsessive nervous disorders.
This is OCD, like panic disorders.
And they're considered disorders because they are non-optimal ways of living your life.
right?
Like if you, Tesla had a really, really hard life.
Right?
If you are a cluster A, you're going to have a difficult freaking life.
Like, I've got a lot of cluster A tendencies myself, right?
Go check out Starving Vampires of Age of Man.
I like Age of Man best.
And it's cluster A. you know you gotta be a little bit cluster A to write something like that it's so yeah cluster C's are just so obsessive and nervous that that's a major impediment Now, cluster C's actually do want to be fixed, and there are some treatments that seem to help them.
Cluster Bs don't want to be fixed.
Yeah, I describe it as it's not my fault, it's your fault.
Forever, constantly.
What I loved about that podcast you sent me was he pointed out that narcissism is better understood as self-regard, like self-prioritization.
And we all self-prioritize.
Like you need a certain amount of narcissism to even exist, otherwise you lay down and die.
But what happens with the cluster Bs is that their self-prioritization, it's like 100%.
Like, I feel like having sex, I guess I'll rape somebody right now.
How dare you tell me not to rape you?
It's my right to do whatever I want.
Like, it's so over the top that it actually becomes extremely destructive for themselves.
Like, a drunk frat boy might be all liquored up and horny, and he might force himself on someone.
That's not a cluster B, okay?
A cluster B thinks they have the right.
They, like, foundationally, and they would be horribly offended if you suggested that they don't have the right to rape somebody.
Yeah, these people, they're absolute monsters.
And they constantly lie and manipulate and screw others over for their own sake.
Again, psychopath is one of the names of a cluster B. Yep.
Or sociopath, but basically they're the same thing.
Somebody that has no guilt whatsoever.
Actually, none of them have any guilt.
And really, they're just manifestations of the same thing.
Just one's a little bit more extroverted, one's a little bit more people-focused.
Those are the only real differences between these people.
Yeah, so the psychiatrist was talking about cluster B capture in institutions, which was his.
This was this guy's right there.
Which is very insightful.
So we talk about regulatory capture, right?
Where the people writing the laws work for the companies that the laws govern.
Or if not, work for them are heavily influenced by.
Yeah, they're the same people.
Maybe not work for, but are paid by.
Yeah, as soon as they're going to the regulatory agency, they get a high-paying job.
Yeah.
You know, and like regulatory capture could be like, oh, I've got this great invention that can solve problem A. Therefore, we should regulate so that all companies need to buy my invention.
That's regulatory capture.
Yeah, technically you're solving the problem, but perhaps there's multiple ways of solving that problem, and then you're getting rich, and yeah.
That's regulatory capture.
I think that was a decent 30-second.
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So cluster B capture, basically cluster B is coming into the higher ups in a company and taking it over.
Yeah.
It's yeah, it's when any institution, so a company, a political party, the ACLU, you name it, where cluster bees start to take it over and then they gain enough traction by bringing in other cluster B's that you have nothing but cluster B's and their victims.
And the victims of cluster Bs tend to behave like cluster B's.
Right, like one of the things, if you read that sometimes borderline can be treated.
Yeah.
I don't believe that's actually borderline.
I believe that's a victim of a cluster B.
And a little bit slightly off topic, but interesting.
I watched a lot of videos of this psychiatrist talking about learned narcissism in corporate America.
The way you write emails in corporate America is narcissism.
Oh, yeah.
You never take responsibility.
You always deflect.
You make yourself look good.
The game.
She was telling a really interesting story about a client of hers who came from a small town, humble roots, went to the corporate world, got really good at it, came back to her bow dunk town, started abusing the waiters, and her friends were just like, what's wrong with me?
What the fuck?
And she had this epiphany at the time.
Like, wait a minute.
What have I become?
Yeah, what have I become?
Really interesting.
like learn like there's narcissists that are born actually that no one's born a narcissist but basically what she said is like these people cluster bees seem to be born that way Like, some of them, it comes from abuse.
Well, according to others, just there's no evidence of abuse in their past.
Well, according to what I've read about cluster bees, for narcissists anyway, they're either given too much or too little attention as child children.
Oh, it's no gross abuse.
Yeah.
It's anyway.
But anyway, yeah, it was really interesting that corporate America does foster narcissistic tendencies and that people, as you make your way up there, you learn it.
You learn to be a narcissist.
And this one client actually going back to her hometown had the epiphany that, holy fuck, I have changed.
There's another report I was reading to really illustrate how endemic.
That's the other thing with the personality disorders.
Yeah.
It seems really endemic.
Like depression is something you have for a while.
PTSD is something you have for a while.
Right?
And as long as you aren't, you know, feeding the beast, it actually does go away.
Yeah.
But the best case example of them working with a psychopath to try and teach him to not be a psychopath, they actually just made him a more effective psychopath.
Yeah.
And for about five, ten years, everything was good.
He took over a funeral home business.
He had a wife.
He had a kid.
And then everything fell apart.
And I forget if he was embezzling away.
He's doing some stupid psychopath thing.
And it's like, oh no, we didn't actually cure him.
We just trained him to hide better.
Yeah.
That seems to be the thing with cluster B.
They don't.
Oh, yeah.
It's extremely difficult.
And like, as far as I understand it, like, there's a spectrum, right?
So if someone is, like, say, a five or below in narcissism, they can, through great work, become not narcissist, but like the six and up.
It's just like, no, there's no cure.
Well, this is in my old videos where I was describing this.
Yeah.
This is why I point towards the core mechanism, right?
If you understand the core mechanism, the thing is, like, the true ones, it's a person.
It's something that's pretending to be a person in a skin suit.
Now, narcissism is not egotism.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, I'm fairly high in egotism, but I'm not a narcissist.
See, a narcissist is somebody, like, the mechanism with narcissists is that instead of a soul, they seem to have a black hole full of shame.
Like, the most lethal, infinite amount of shame you could possibly imagine.
And so they actually construct this shell of a personality to hold themselves up above that shame.
And for this shell personality to exist, they need devotees, people that believe in it.
And so narcissists.
See, an egotist is going to get really good at something so people pay attention to them.
And they say, look at me, I'm the best.
The narcissist will make up lies because if people believe the lies, it holds off the shame.
And if you pierce through a narcissist's shell, they react with murderous rage.
They're fucking frightening these people.
Oh, yeah.
Like, if you point out that the narcissist doesn't own the car, he leased the car, he might try and kill you.
Yeah.
Yeah, they basically have a bubble.
But if you threaten to burst it, they might just kill you.
Because they are.
They're not their bubble, but they want to be that bubble so much that that's all that matters in life.
As soon as the bubble pops, it's infinite shame and hatred for all existence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With borderlines, it's this.
If nobody's giving them attention for a moment, for a moment, if nobody's giving them attention and they don't have a strategy to get attention, they'll start exploding, right?
So if you're next to a borderline that needs attention, they will attack you.
Just because you or they'll like maybe not physically, but you telling them that you saying nasty things to them is attention.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love it.
These people don't stop, right?
At best, they get better at hiding their long-term motives.
But their long-term motives are completely toxic to.
Yeah.
But get back to the type B capture.
What was really interesting, like, so psychiatrists say if you know a type B.
I mean, guys, you've all met a type B, a cluster B. You have all met one.
It's just that they are so ridiculously evil that it doesn't make sense.
Yeah.
Like a petty thief just wants to steal 20 bucks from you.
Yeah.
A cluster B wants your house to burn down for no reason.
Yeah.
So yeah, the standard psychological advice for cluster B is walk away or run away.
Yeah.
Get away from that person.
There's no curing them.
There's no nothing.
They don't want to be cured.
They don't want to get better.
And that's the thing.
It's like, even when you're trying to talk to them and trying to help them to be more, like, if you, which is a mistake I've made a few times in my life, they'll go along with it just so they can hurt you more in the future.
So anyway, the really interesting.
Well, the interesting thing is when they start flocking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're saying that usually cluster bees are pretty loner-ish.
Probably.
Sometimes.
I'm not confident in that statement because.
Especially for narcissists, because narcissists, and I think narcissism is definitely the same.
I meant they're a lone wolf amongst cluster bees.
Right?
Like a cluster bee will, like, a narcissist will form.
They need a cult that thinks they're a guru.
Right?
Whether some of them will be the upstanding citizen with two cars and a wife, and they'll just tell you how to live your life all the time.
They need the guruship.
So, two really interesting things by this psychiatrist talking about how cluster bees, in his, you know, his learned guesstimation, because he doesn't have any stats on this, but he thinks that cluster bees have gone from probably 3% of the population, say, in the 1950s, to 12% of the population.
I figured it was.
It's like 5 to 10.
Yeah, 5 to 1.
Was it 5 to 10?
Something like that.
We'll say 10%.
And then he was saying, you know, when that's a big jump, and it's scary.
And he was saying that a lot of institutions are getting cluster be captured and basically they start flocking once in a while.
Yeah.
Where you have a whole bunch of narcissists working in tandem, which is weird because they are people of a lie.
They lie to each other.
They stab one another in the back.
But they seem to be flocking right now.
Yeah.
Okay, here's a way to put it.
The difference between a cluster B and an enemy is that the Americans worried about a fifth column of Japanese subverting America during World War II.
Now the thing is that they've got an objective, right?
They support Japan.
They've got a good objective that we can all understand.
The mafia just wants to smuggle booze and make money for prostitutes.
There's a motive we can all understand.
Cluster bees don't have motives like that.
And yet they seem to start flocking with one another.
And eventually, and this is what he's pointing out in the stream, is if you take the whole social justice movement, it's probably 20% cluster B's at the top and 80% victim, like people that were victims of cluster B's, people that were abused growing up, who get sucked into the cluster B cult.
And this is why I said that you like this.
I posted on Facebook that neither science nor religion demands that you believe something.
No.
The science, it's all about, you know, learning for yourself.
And same thing with religion.
Religion wants to help you.
Like, true religion wants to help you be a more effective human being and deal with your trauma, etc.
Oh, yeah.
Any true believer is not going to do it because I say so.
Yeah.
They might proselytize, but it's always from a place of this is good for you.
Like once in a while, science will say, no, stop playing with radioactive stuff.
Right?
Like, there'll be.
There'll be like a few proscriptions coming from religion and science for really, no, we're not discussing this.
Don't play in traffic.
But generally, they want to discuss everything.
It's only cluster.
Cults are cluster B's.
Cluster B's form cults.
Fascism starts in the home.
communism and fascism these are cluster b cults yeah and there's also uh um i i like the metaphor of childishness right Cluster B's are the spoiled child.
You know, they think that they deserve everything.
They think that people are there to serve them.
You know, the terrible twos, which you're going to find out about soon.
Yeah, the terrible twos?
Oh, yeah.
It's when the child has, like right now your baby is still learning to chew.
Oh, I can see it, though.
I should tell you this cute story today.
Here, flip this in for me.
Yeah.
Tell a cute story.
Cute story.
I've been feeding the baby, putting her in her high chair and letting her chill out there with toys and trying to teach her patience by leaving her there longer and longer, right?
To not need mommy and daddy's attention.
So anyway, she was getting to the end of her patience and she was like making fussy noises and getting all red in the face.
And I kind of like felt this was the end of her patience.
So she's been patient.
She's been respecting you.
What happened?
I had to do one little chore that would take a second.
So I got up and I walked by her.
How rude!
Yeah, she immediately looked at my wife, her mother, and had that like...
What sort of bullshit is this?
Yes, yeah.
I can't win a teacher.
Socially acceptable swear words for a five-year-old.
So anyway, then I came back and I laughed about it because my wife talked about it and then picked her up and was like, do you think daddy's your slave?
Daddy's got to do whatever you say?
But yeah, it's true.
In a way, everybody is born a narcissist.
You're right.
Well, and terrible twos are like, they finally have enough capacity that they can eat food and they can walk and they can shit on time.
And then it's like, you're not the boss of me, right?
Like now they're asserting their independence.
But yeah, the cluster bees are kind of stuck at that phase.
Yep.
There's a Thomas Sewell quote that I loved.
It was like, every new generation is a barbarian horde that threatens to tear down society and to be civilized.
It's so true.
I got a little barbarian on my hands, but she'll be okay.
And I especially love it because the bar bar bar bar, it sounds like babbling.
Well, you know that, right?
Barbarian, where that word comes from?
Uncivilized non-Greeks.
Yeah, the Greeks thought that all the non-Greek languages sound like people going to the language.
Bar, bar, bar, real language.
They just made it up.
Yeah.
Bar, bar, bar, bar, bar.
Oh, man.
I just put my troll online.
Right?
I'd accuse like Polish people.
They don't even speak a real language.
They just made it up.
People get so angry about that, too.
It's like, no, no, I'm in Canada.
I speak a real language, English.
The England, they stole that.
Isn't it funny that that's obviously a troll, but you get so many people being buttered.
Like, how can you believe this?
Oh, the average bear ain't all that bright.
But yeah, anyway, cluster B capture is basically, this guy was saying, like, what is the strategy against it, right?
The strategy against it.
That I think that was a really thing that was really interesting.
It's like, if you have an institution that falls prey to cluster bee capture, treat it like a cluster bee.
There's no curing it.
No.
Let it burn.
That was the really devastating thing to hear from me.
Well, it actually kind of affirms.
I mean, like, I've got this.
Let it burn and then build new.
Yeah, because I got this anarchist streak in me, right?
Where it's just like, like, fuck social organization.
Don't tell me what to do.
And at the same time, I'm pretty lawful at the same time.
And I served in the military.
But it's like increasingly, the whole society is just becoming so goddamned toxic at all levels that, yeah, my instinct is like, no, fuck this society.
Build our own institutions.
Yeah, well, with the fall of Kabul, that was really...
Yeah, the big two psychological blows for me was the Biden honk honk win.
Honk.
Hong Kong.
Yeah, he totally totally legitimately went to the bottom.
Legit, legit.
Yeah, that was the, that was devastating.
and not the biden if biden won and it was clear he won that would be hard But it's like, oh.
I saw from Mariposa County, they have this bar chart.
And it's like, number of lost ballots, number of ballots from people illegible to vote.
Yeah.
Biden's win margin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, Elections Canada is recommending you use a pencil for this election.
Okay.
Yeah, so bring a pen with you when you vote, Canadians.
Okay.
Yeah, I wouldn't go there.
I wouldn't say that Election Canada is necessarily co-opted.
But I don't know, right?
Because like, think of like the Maricopa Camp.
Was it whatever quantity was it?
Mariposa.
With the Sharpie Gate thing, which apparently is real.
Yeah.
They've made the ballots so you're not supposed to use Sharpies, and then they started handing it Sharpies so they could spoil the ballots.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I actually thought that was probably false, but apparently it's more than likely true that they.
Testament of Vape Beck?
Yep.
Oh, so one of the things I wanted to talk about, which they started discussing this on the stream, but they kind of, it was a really good stream.
I strongly recommend it, but they spent most of it discussing what a cluster B is.
Yeah, it's a long stream.
It's good, though.
It was one of the best ones I've seen in a long time.
I've seen a lot of good ones lately, too.
One of the things he was talking about.
Do you know why I wanted sardines?
Oh, go ahead.
There's so many intellectuals that were left of center that are waking up.
I find that there's a lot of excellent commentary coming out because they're intelligent people that trusted the system.
Thus they're left of center.
And they're like becoming disillusioned.
And the knowledge that's coming is beautiful.
It's like an avalanche of knowledge coming out.
James Lindsay is another one.
Yeah, I love seeing this.
And what I would love to say to the psychiatrist that was on that stream is that now the radical left is the main hub of this cholesterol B capture.
Don't think it's not happening on the right as well.
And like I've said in the past, there's so many people on the right that are only on the right because they're the wrong demographic to be on the left.
Like they're exhibiting the exact same bullshit attitudes.
Like Richard Spencer is a perfect example of this.
He was having sex in his hotel room at Charlottesville while his followers were being arrested en masse.
And good lord, I've been through.
Trust me, man, like half the people on the right will stab you in the back as soon as they look at you.
So it's just as prevalent on this side of the sector.
It's just not as well organized.
It's not as well funded, I should say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, one of the things that they touched on, but they didn't really describe is why there are so many cluster B's.
And this is something I've talked about: how social media is inducing neuroses in people.
Okay, I would be more.
I the lack of religion, like a Christian religion, but anyway.
Actually, I want to get to that too.
But, like, guys, when you're on Facebook, and okay, I had this experience the other day.
I tried to post, somebody posted something that was perfectly normal for somebody in Vancouver to post, but I found it quite belligerent.
So I posted a reply saying, you know, like, no, I'm not anti-science, etc.
And I was trying to be quite reasonable.
At which point, I got somebody going, hoot, hoot, hoot, hoot.
Do you work in the scientific industry?
Hoot, hoot, hoot, hoot.
Yeah.
And I immediately responded with a whole bunch of snark.
Yeah.
Because the nature of social media predisposes you to behaving like a malignant narcissist.
It trains you in behaving like a malignant narcissist.
The same way, if you grow up with a cluster B parent, an abusive parent, then you are going to be trained in behaving in that sort of an environment.
And this is what social media is doing to everybody.
And it's backed up with artificial intelligence algorithms, which just push engagement.
They don't care if it's positive or negative engagement, just that it is engagement.
And yeah, so this is part of the reason we're seeing this uptick in narcissism.
Let's see.
So while I wait for Leon, for Big L to get back, May says, So Byne's giving the order to companies to require vaccines for the employees.
But he's not doing it.
Yeah, federal employees are exempt from vaccine mandates.
Ain't that funny?
Wait, federal employees are exempt?
Yep, in the U.S. government.
Really?
Companies have to do it.
Really?
Yep.
Also, the.
I mean, in Canada, it's the opposite, right?
Isn't it?
Well, they're.
I don't know.
I think they're encouraging it with businesses, and they're making federal employees mandate it.
Because that's how I understand it anyway.
Wow.
Because I know that as much as I probably wouldn't get a job in government, I've always thought about it.
I'm like, well, that's probably off the table now because I don't want to get vaccinated.
There's also the post office is exempt because they've got a union.
So yeah, that's one of the aspects is social media inducing narcissism.
Narcissism, not egotism, guys, not egotism.
Narcissism is when you have this shell identity that you've put up, and anytime somebody critiques it, you have this extremely angry response.
Like if it's different in public.
First of all, nobody's gonna like Big L might make fun of my stupid hat, right?
But a stranger, for the most part, a stranger isn't gonna walk up and insult my hat unless if they're getting physically violent, right?
Whereas on social media, you know, plenty of strangers will show up and just insult you for no reason, and you get really angry and you get a it's like the whole structure of it causes narcissistic behavior.
Yeah, another thing I was noting, you and I were saying the other day they're probably borderline too, right?
Constantly playing the victim, goes and provokes a fight with somebody else and then plays that she's the victim of being attacked.
Can't just be a decent human being, constantly needs attention and affect, even if it's negative affect.
And I don't think she's really a borderline in real life, but she certainly acts like one on the internet.
We were talking about how much we miss the shitty world of the 1990s.
Yeah.
Like, things weren't good, but they weren't this bad.
Yeah.
I was thinking more about this.
And I was thinking about, I think this is where, like, things start to happen with the celebrity culture.
Yeah.
Right?
My big problem with the 90s was that the celebrity worship, the MTV crowd.
it was brutal coming from yeah Everybody in high school, have you seen that chick on the magazine?
She's so hot.
Britney Spears was with it for me.
Like, I don't know.
Britney Spears was awful music.
Everybody in my high school was like, oh, Britney Spears.
Before Britney Spears, it was like rap versus punk.
You know?
And like, I never liked rap.
I was always in the punk camp.
I was always a punk rocker, but it's like...
I was listening to jazz.
But then Britney Spears came out and bet everybody's ass.
And it was like, what?
Fuck this shit.
And you had a really interesting observation.
Yeah.
That Christianity, probably most religions, but Christianity in particular, we're in the West.
Oh, I think a major fucking break on Cluster B behavior.
Yeah, because it promotes humility, right?
It doesn't make Christianity immune to Cluster B culture.
No.
But it does.
It's immune, but it's very difficult to be.
I mean, the best you can do is Pope Francis, anti-Pope Francis.
Benedict's the real Pope.
Anti-Pope Francis, posing for selfies while he licks the feet of Muslims.
Right?
That's his narcissism.
Look at me.
Look at how holy I am.
Yeah.
It's going to be Huffing Greta's Clydesdale farts next.
Oh, wait, he already is.
Clydesdale.
Oh, you just know.
You know that girl eats so much soya bean that she just farts like a Clyde stale.
Yeah, but yeah.
So like I think right now the Vatican, it's a complete cluster B capture right now.
Yeah, I mean you could run away virtual signalism signaling with Christianity.
Like I always think of the Anchorites.
Do you know them?
No, let's hear the story.
Well the Anchorites were a very brief and ridiculously fanatical sect, but self-harming.
They would I would liken it to like Jainism in that they would basically kill themselves.
Anchorites would deny themselves pleasure so much that they uh, the epitome of it would be um, walling yourself off, putting yourself between a, a brick wall ends up dying.
Wrote letters about that to the.
Yeah, who was it?
There's a, two great.
There's the Gauls and the Greeks.
Yeah, and the Greeks were all excited because Christianity allowed them to have sex with little boys.
Yeah, and so Paul wrote the letter that everybody quotes at weddings that love is gentle.
Love is that that thing?
Yeah, that's him explaining to a Greek colony that no, stop buggering little boys.
And then the Galatians letter to the Galatians, yeah, Gaulish tribe, he's explaining, no, stop cutting your dicks off.
That's not holy either.
Yeah, fucking Gauls man.
This is the thing about Christianity that I love and like people say, why are you Christian?
Like, I have no good answer other than like, look at, look at everything else, look at the other options, look at everything else.
And I it's funny, like in my mind there's like Christianity is S?
Tier, Buddhism is A tier yep, everything else is F?
Tier.
Hinduism's okay yeah, maybe Hindu is gonna be could be B tier.
Yeah, we should do it.
We should do.
I was thinking of doing that, like I heard a video for religions.
Like actually, I put Shintoism pretty high right yeah well, maybe I would still put that like be B tier.
Oh yeah, I'm gonna put it a tier, but like Shintoism it's alright.
Yeah, it's like the thing with the, the Asians tend to get all like suicidal.
Yeah right, if you look at uh no okay, I would honestly I'd put um, what's his name?
Uh, there's the Anglicized name and then there's the Chinese name.
I can't remember it.
Well, I don't know, for Shintoism or whatever.
No no China China, that Kung Fuzi yeah, Kung Fuze Confucius Confucius yeah okay yeah um, I put that C tier.
Yeah, it's like here's how you obey under a tyrannical government.
Oh yeah, Confuciism and legalism and like, was it Laoism?
Or I forget Taoism's too meta for most people.
Like Taoism is fantastic, but it's so meta that nobody understands it.
Yeah, it's like trying to teach girdles and completeness theorem in third grade.
Yeah Islam well oh, Islam is I, I.
I see people that are like liberals, that are Anti-Catholics, former Catholic Anti-Catholics, talking about lessons from the Islamic.
What is it?
The Islamic Bible?
I'm reading now the sh, The uh Quran, the Quran, and it's just like what this?
You think this is profound, pardon.
Anyway, I don't want to go into any more than that.
Yeah, oh my god, that's a whole topic of hate speech.
Yeah, we can't.
We can't say too much about that, but I'm just shocked by former Catholics.
Being like this means being like, I know more about Catholicism than you and you went to Catholic school for 10 years.
No, there's no catechization.
It's incredible like, is this the fact that they the things that they said were profound in Islam, like what?
No pardon yeah, I was having a learn your own religion first.
Maybe I was having a conversation with the last little kid that ran off for no fucking reason because millennials just ghost.
They went to Catholic school yeah, and were taught that saints were perfect people.
What?
Who the hell taught you that?
Oh, yeah.
Go read the saints.
They say the exact opposite.
They all say, like, I'm the worst sinner that ever lived.
It's, that's not what a saint is.
Where is this coming from?
There is zero catechization in our society.
There's just absolute zero catechization whatsoever.
And we wonder why everything's gone to shit.
I remember an interview with a modern guy.
We wouldn't call it a saint, but...
And I'm forgetting the entire interview, other than the interviewer said, people say that you're the most humble man.
No, I'm the most humble man.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, sure, Davis.
Dude.
I'm like a rug on Valium.
If I was any more relaxed, I'd be dead.
Yeah, right.
Anyway.
You don't get more humble than this.
I'm humbly acknowledging how cool fedoras are, right?
Yeah.
Right?
Like, I could not build a better hat than a fedora, so I will wear a fedora to exemplify how fantastically fashionable it is because I am humble.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, in contrast, this other person that was described as humble by many people was brought up.
He's like, are you a humble man?
And he said, well, that's for others to say.
What a fucking narcissist.
Oh, is he also the least wise of all Greeks?
No, that was a good answer, I thought.
I mean, if your dick was this big, you'd be humble, too.
Damn.
Will I ever meet someone more humble than you, Davis?
Probably not.
Probably not.
That's strange.
That's strange, I might have, because I think I might have met someone before.
but I guess I was wrong.
Okay, another, actually another thing that really struck me about that livestream one, he mentioned, like, he used to be part of Atheist Cult.
Yeah.
And how cluster B captured they are.
Oh, I didn't catch that part.
I might have walked.
It was really brief.
Like, I want to hear more podcasts.
Like, I would love to talk with this guy.
I feel like that stream only scratched the surface with all of this.
And I, you know, I kind of got out of watching Benjamin Boyce's videos because he's interviewing all the people that I thought was boring.
But I came across that one and it was brilliant.
It was great.
See, there's the interesting thing, see, like, because I was an atheist back then as well, but I wasn't one of the, like, the whole, like, I started calling it atheist cult while I was an atheist because, like, the dogmatism.
Yeah.
That's one of the signs of a cluster B is dogmatism.
That you must believe this thing.
We've always believed this thing, even though two weeks ago we didn't believe this thing.
Which that's modern politics.
That is how cults behave.
That is how abusive parents behave.
Right?
Like, I am the best parent in the world, even though I was beating you last week.
Yep.
And one of the interesting things is, you're just an atheist because you think you should be God.
Trauma bonding.
Trauma bonding.
Explain trauma bonding.
Look at ice.
Trauma bonding is the ability.
Well, say if you have An abusive parent, they beat the shit out of you, and then they come over and hug you and kiss you and say, I'm sorry I did that.
I had to do that to teach you a lesson.
So they caused the trauma, and then they bonded over the cup of the trauma.
So you have the idea that, oh, I am the one that was wrong.
They're the one that was right.
They love me.
They did it because they love me.
Is that a good description?
Yes, that's perfect.
It actually works off of a real thing, by the way.
I mean, I was.
I once, there's a little girl I was taking care of, and she ran into the room with scissors in her hand and almost put her fucking eye out.
And I was so upset that I grabbed her and spanked her and said, go to your room.
Because I was fucking terrified.
I was so, you know, like, and then I caught my breath, you know, gave it a minute.
Then I went in the room and I hugged her and said, you know, I'm so, you scared me.
You scared me because running with sacrifice is very dangerous.
And you're a good girl.
You didn't know it wasn't your fault.
That right there is trauma bonding, man.
I was like, I was almost on the, like, I was panicked when I'm like, no, don't run.
Yeah.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
And so that's trauma bonding is.
And you know, I don't think it's necessarily always bad because that's what I mean.
It's not.
It doesn't.
Trauma bonding is a normal human thing.
Yeah.
Like if your kid runs into traffic or if they disappear or something like that, it's like you're going to have a freak out and it's going to be very emotionally a lot of emotional turmoil.
Yeah.
Right?
But that's not abuse.
That's not abuse.
It's that it's you just, kid, you just accidentally fucked with something that is super dangerous.
Yeah.
Right?
And yeah, I mean, it can be used to form a cult.
Right.
Well, and that's the thing.
The cluster B creates the manufacture the trauma so they can bond over the trauma.
Yes.
Yeah, and I could see like borderlines especially creating the comma, the drama in a covert way.
One of the things the borderline I dated.
Yeah, I'll give you an example of borderline behavior.
One morning, you know, I finished my coffee.
I went upstairs to get the mail.
There's a basement apartment.
Went to get the mail.
You know, came back in.
And she started screaming and crying that I was oppressing her and denying her agency by not inviting her with me to get the mail.
Yeah.
Which is completely fucking insane, but, you know, like you would, like normally if your spouse is having some sort of freak out, you assume there's a legit, they're coming from some sort of legitimate place.
Yeah.
No, this woman was just abusive and evil.
And so, yeah, the abusive parent.
See, the good parent, if you run into traffic, might have a freak out and spank you.
They might overreact.
Right?
No, that's not what an abusive person does.
They manufacture something.
It's like, oh, you forgot to ask politely to pass the salt.
And so we're going to have a complete meltdown right now.
And we're going to justify it because etiquette is important.
No, it's completely manufactured.
It is a complete BS.
There'll be some moral excuse for it, but it's bullshit.
Yeah.
See bullshit.
I'm going to teach your daughter to use the term moose drip when she's four.
Yeah.
Let's see.
So Bill Maher has been dropping some little red pills.
Yeah.
It's good to hear.
Yeah, surprisingly, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Congress is exempt.
And our judges from the vaccine mandates.
And yeah, hey guys, there is the there's the link to The Ranger.
Go check it out.
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We put a lot of work into that.
So at least give it a like.
Give it a like, comment, and subscribe.
Nomadi says, a pair of female Methodist pastors dressed up as the women of the Handmaiden Stable to protest Texas not killing humans without a heartbeat.
Yep.
Oh no, they can't murder their baby.
No, just like it did that.
Just like that Heinberger's tale.
I don't know.
I just can't keep it.
I can't take it seriously at all.
Stop murdering babies.
Yeah.
Orphanages.
Okay, so confession time.
I've told you this.
My greatest fear in life is to have a severely retarded child.
Yeah, I feel you, man.
My greatest fear in life.
And I was told that my child was going to be severely retarded.
But turns out she's a genius.
Well, she seems very intelligent, yeah.
And I think she's going to be too smart for Kira.
Oh, it's awful.
Man, I walked by a mother with her severely retarded child today and is loving it.
And I was just like, God bless you.
Thank God I don't have to deal with that.
Like, it's still my greatest fear.
I'd have a huge difficulty.
Man, I know.
I know.
I'd be petrified as well.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
That was kind of a test of faith, in a way.
You passed it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's also, like, for you and me, intellect is so much of what we do.
Yeah.
I have sympathy for, I have no sympathy for fucking idiots that are like, oh, I made a mistake.
I want to have a birthday.
Like, no.
But that is one thing.
I had sympathy for people that have been born.
Like, oh, the doctor says you're going to have a severely retarded child and like that realization of like having a tough time.
Although it goes to show what these doctors know.
Yeah.
They were convinced that you were going to have a retard baby.
Well, that one doctor was anyway.
We got a second opinion.
They were like, that doctor's an idiot.
But yeah.
You know.
Oh, boy.
Just thank God.
I thank God every day that I didn't have to live with that reality, but I had to face it.
Yeah.
I had to face it.
Oh, I didn't get the...
But it's amazing to me, too, to see that one.
I looked at her for a long time.
She loves that child.
That's beautiful.
But at the same time, it's scary for me.
Because I don't want to do it.
So anyway, yeah.
But anyway, abortion, yeah, I think it's pretty much wrong in all cases.
Even if you're faced with that difficulty.
I mean, like, there's...
If it's choice between the mother and the child, the mother is morally...
In simplistic morality, the mother is the correct choice.
Yeah.
Yeah, a viable life for.
Yeah.
It's triage.
Yeah.
Right?
Although mothers that decide to give birth even though they're going to die are absolutely heroic.
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's the right choice, but it's I would say that it would be a legally understandable choice.
And I do think, again, the rules of triage.
Again, I'm not a theologian.
I'm a soldier for crying out loud.
With the rules of triage, it's completely morally coherent.
It seems to me that interesting, because I know all my sisters-in-law are big-time leftists.
They're all talking about voting conservative because they hate liberals so much.
And I see the NDP is no better, which is actually more shocking.
Oh, the leader of the NDP, I've been watching some of the tweets this guy puts out.
But just to finish the thought, this abortion thing has got them so up in arms.
because they're like where do we go we don't want what if we vote in the conservatives and they do something similar Even though they're not saying that they're going to.
Because they're not willing to take responsibility for themselves.
Don't have sex with anybody that you wouldn't be willing to raise a child with.
Like, don't, like, that's not even a high goddamn demand for crying out loud.
I mean, I'm not properly chased, but I don't.
I don't engage in coyotes with anybody that I would be ashamed of the result.
Yeah.
Well, it's interesting.
And don't put yourself in situations where rape is a real prospect.
Okay, like, like, the number of women that got raped by random men storming into their homes at gunpoint and raping them in Calgary in the past 20 years is like zero.
I would say that it's politics is really interesting because it's so fear-based, but at the same time, I'll admit that I'm afraid of the political changes.
And like, all of my political disagreements, especially nowadays, based around what to be afraid of.
Right?
They're afraid of abortion becoming illegal.
Right?
Which I think is un I think that's unfounded.
Yeah, it's not about to be.
I'm afraid of fucking fascist tyranny, but I've talked about people who think that's completely unfounded.
Right?
It's like everything is fear-based.
And it's like, pick your fear.
This actually leads into the reason I'm calling a cluster B capture collapse theory is because evil can't invent anything.
Yeah.
It can only destroy.
And with the Cluster B captures that we're seeing, that's what we have.
We have the politics of fear and anger.
One of the things that really stuck out to me about Maxine Bernier is that he was talking about solutions.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay, yes, definitely.
That's why opportunities.
Not just, not here's how we fix this problem, but here's how we make a lot of money together.
Here's how we be super freaking successful together and everybody's super happy.
Quebec isn't the problem.
Quebec is an opportunity for Alberta.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
I'm so confident in my vote for PPC, even though I don't think it'll make a difference.
This is the thing that pissed me up with the strategic voting.
It's like, you know what else?
Strategic voting is like voting, actually voting as if it's your ardent wish, which is what voting means.
You ardently wish for this.
You might not win this time, but you signal to other people that you fucking want this.
And then they're like, oh, well, maybe this is viable.
Right?
Like, the people that do the strategic voting, that's only one strategy where it's like, I want the other guy out of power.
And it's very It's only justified if the one you're voting for isn't evil.
Like, maybe you think they should give a 30% tax break and they're only doing 15.
Yeah.
That ain't perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
No, the conservatives in Canada.
Oh, they're brutal.
They're awful.
They're pushing gun control.
They're pushing vaccine passports.
They're pushing carbon taxes for crying out loud.
Oh, yeah.
It's like the fox and the lion, right?
Which one do you pick?
I don't vote neither.
Yeah, I cannot, in good conscience, vote for the conservatives.
Yeah, me neither.
And you know, like, you know, when it was.
And if the liberals win again, just think about that.
Do you think about how all the fucking corruption, Trudeau saying that he admires China because they're a dictatorship?
You know, Trudeau laughing about how he's paid off the media.
Like, all of, plus all of the other corruption scandals, like the Wii scandal and all this shit.
Or the fact that the Trudeau Foundation has the girl level, girl lover pedophile symbol as their logo.
Okay, yeah.
Which I did confirm that personally.
Go look up the Trudeau Foundation report.
I think it's on page three or four that you'll see the girl lover symbol.
Yeah, yeah.
I think the time for strategic voting in the term, in the sense of like short term, gotta get that guy out of power is over.
See, I strategically voted for Harper because, like, one example is I strategically voted for Kenny.
That was a bad.
That was bad.
I mean, my vote wouldn't have made a difference, but still, I feel a bit embarrassed about that.
Like, I think weed should be legal.
I think all drugs should be legal, personally.
I want the cops to have absolutely zero excuse to come into my house unless if I've committed a crime against somebody.
So I'm radical on drug legalization.
And so I had an issue voting for Harper because he was tough on marijuana up.
But I could also look at it and say, Harper only has so much political capital.
Right?
There's only so many things he can accomplish.
And the things he's going to do that he says he's going to do, these are all things I want done that are good.
And the things he's not doing that I want him to do, well, probably everybody else will do the same thing.
So I will give Harper a vote.
I cannot give O'Toole a vote.
He is going to do evil things.
He just says, I'll be, I'll only kill three million Jews.
Yeah.
That's pretty much it.
Yeah.
Oh, he's awful.
He's like, yeah, do you want fascism?
Do you want fascism, liberalism?
Do you want extreme fascism, NDP, or fascism-like conservatives?
Or do you want a Liberty Party?
And by the way, let me say about Sing.
So anytime you read his tweets, any of his posts, they come across like the Wimpy Kid.
Do you know Diaries of a Wimpy Kid?
I never read it, but I know of it.
Yeah, the kid's a psychopath.
He's a narcissist.
His justification is that he's wimpy, so it's okay when he stabs his friends in the back.
It's okay when he cheats at the rules, when he steals.
Oh, really?
Right?
He is such a nasty piece of work.
That's another reason we have so many narcissists.
Books like Diary of a Wimpy Kid, books like Harry Potter, who I've done it before, I'll do it again.
The first Harry Potter movie is there's some sort of goddamn contest in the magic school.
Yeah.
And Harry Potter fucks off with his friends to go slay a dragon or something.
Yeah.
Which is fun, the dragon needed slaying, but guess what?
The cost of not doing the contest is you don't win the contest.
But fucking Dumbledore says, oh, because they discover the true value of friendship, Harry Potter gets the prize.
No, Slytherin won the prize.
Maybe not fair and square, but of course they Slytherin, they're evil.
No, Harry Potter is a fucking narcissist.
He's a nasty little brat that gets away with fucking everything.
And this storytelling is part of what's led to the epidemic of narcissism that we have these days.
And anyway, yeah, Singh.
Sing is a narcissist.
He's like, I couldn't even imagine when I was getting bullied in high school for being ethnic that I'd one day be running for prime.
Shut the fuck up.
We all got bullied, you asshole.
Everybody got bullied.
If you're wearing a stupid pink turban, you got bullied for the stupid pink turban.
I got bullied for literally wearing a vest in a fedorax.
That's what I wore in high school.
I got bullied for being tall and skinny.
We all got fucking bullied, asshole.
Yeah.
It does not just.
I'm tall and skinny and I got to dirt to be.
And you know what?
You know what?
We all bullied somebody in high school.
Yeah.
Maybe we weren't as bad of a bully as the other guy, but we all bullied somebody in high school.
Yeah.
You know what?
Come think of it, me calling people fascists.
Maybe it is a wake-up moment because I remember I was a bit of a bully in like in primary school and I didn't stop until I was bullying a mentally handicapped child and they said, you're a bully.
And I was like, I'm not a bully?
Oh shit, I am a bully.
Yes, exactly, yeah.
Oh, I had that revelation.
I mean, I was like, I don't know, seven, eight years old, but it was like, what are you talking about?
Man, I still can't.
Yes, yeah, you're right.
Man, I still remember the day.
Yeah.
The bullies.
Yeah.
The bullies bullied me into bullying one of their friends with them.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, shit.
Talk about cluster B recruitment type thing, right?
That's cluster B recruitment.
Yep.
Yeah.
Oh, they talked me into bullying somebody else because I didn't want to be bullied by them.
Yeah.
That was such an interesting fun moment for me with that, like, I don't know what it is, grade two, whatever your age grade two is.
This child that was, you know, slow, like not super slow, but pretty damn slow.
A little bit retarded.
Yeah.
Mildly retarded.
Yeah, mildly retarded.
You're a bully.
No, I'm just having fun.
We're all having fun, right?
Wait, wait a minute.
Yo, that was it.
That was the thought process.
Like, fuck, wait, no.
Yeah.
so i didn't bully that person again and i mean you know in a nutshell that's that's what that's what It's a shame.
You know what I mean?
The beautiful thing about that, too, is that an adult didn't have to come and say it.
She just said it.
You're a bully.
A peer.
You're a bully.
Wait, you're right.
Yep, I'm being a bully right now.
I thought we were all having fun, too.
I literally said.
It runs away from me.
I remember it perfectly.
Like, I thought we were having a good time.
And she was like, oh, haha, fun at my expense.
And then she's like, you're a bully.
You know what?
That's the other thing about the cluster beef.
Right?
Like, the one, when I described the psychopath, I described it as somebody that's just constantly playing chess.
And even after they won the chess game, they keep playing chess, even though, sit the fuck down, you won.
You got away with the crime.
Yeah.
No, they keep playing until they get caught.
Yeah.
Well, that's the other.
Like, the way it runs away with you.
Right?
Like, when you're being a bully, it's like you're all worked up.
You're all.
Like, anything you can get away with, you're doing.
Right.
It's one time.
OK, one time in we were in small town, Alberta, growing up.
Yeah.
and the power had been out.
We used to have brownouts back in the day, guys.
Like, you millennials have no idea how good you got it.
So we had a brownout, and the principal walked into class, and I was one of the good kids, right?
I was like the good kid.
And so when the principal walked into class, I said, Mr. Thompson, you look like you got dressed in the dark.
Which got a huge laugh, especially because I was one of the good kids, right?
And we'd all gotten dressed in the dark that morning, so it was funny.
And see, once you start, that's what happens.
You make one crack.
you make another crack and another crack and soon enough you're doing whatever you can get away with that's kind of what the that's what these cluster b's do if they can get away with something they do it they don't there's no limiter in their head saying am i being a bully Am I going over the line at this point?
No, they just, they keep going and going and going and going.
never stop.
Rick Evans says, I wouldn't know what to do with the retard baby.
I mean, like, love it.
That's what you do.
Amanda says, I heard that in Sparta that mothers that died giving birth were given allowances to have tombstones that were only given to warriors.
And I've heard that as well.
I'm pretty sure that's historically accurate.
Amanda says, I heard protesters threw stones at Trudeau.
Well, I do know that they've been calling him a goof.
Yeah.
Oh, they've been harassing him.
Which I fully approve of.
I completely.
This is the thing.
It's like, yeah, I don't want to say I condone it, but he's a fucking tyrant.
Yes.
He's a tyrant.
He's a tyrant.
Oh, God.
Well, there will be consequences if you don't get vaccinated.
Oh, vague consequences.
How about the consequences of the lamp?
Trudeau.
You would fucking imagine that.
Your own personal lamp post.
How about that's the consequence?
There will be consequences.
You know, I had to situate.
I got hired at a job.
Yeah.
That would be about nine months ago.
I was pretty damned excited about that job, wasn't I?
And, you know, they, day three, they order me to do something unethical.
Yep.
And it's like I didn't have anything prepared.
I didn't.
You know, I didn't immediately give a rousing speech and storm off, but I did walk off that job.
I haven't talked to him.
It's all right now.
Sorry, I was lost in thought, and I was going to interrupt you.
Well, I'll just finish quickly then.
Like, what really struck me about that, though, is that the boss man came and gave me a little COVID lecture.
Right?
Because we could take our masks off at our desk, but apparently we were supposed to wear them if we stood up.
And he came over and gave me this little snitty little lecture.
Like, yeah, this is the rules.
Follow the rules.
These are the rules.
You gotta follow them, or else we're gonna have more tyranny.
Follow the rules of the tyrants, or else you'll get more tyranny.
Going along with bullies is how we get more bullies.
Yep.
Gotta stand up to them, folks.
You were gonna say.
Yeah, oh no, I was just lost in thought there thinking about my grandfather.
I didn't know him very well, but I'm gonna.
I haven't talked to my father about these conversations that I've been having.
You know, because it's all gonna happen in a week.
I can't wait to ask him what would grandpa say?
What would grandpa say about this?
Because fucking, he fucking fought in the World War II.
I wish he was alive today.
I really do wish he was alive to see this shit.
Because I'm confident he would be fucking livid.
He'd be fucking livid.
I think my great-grandfather would as well.
Yeah.
We're Italian.
Your great-grandfather or your grandfather?
Great.
We're Italians.
We breed faster than you.
Yeah.
No, if I think about my grandfather, I think he'd go along with it.
You know.
Yeah, it's like these conversations I'm having.
I'm not proud of it.
I'm fucking.
I hate it.
I don't want to do them.
When I walked into the mall.
Oh, my God.
Hey, folks, I'm going to be honest with you.
When I walked into the mall, like, I had my speech prepared.
I had all of that.
My knees felt a bit shaky.
Yeah.
You know, I was really, really self-conscious of how I was walking.
Like, I was like a robot that just learned to walk, you know?
I wasn't trying to spark a confrontation with anybody, but I was prepared if a confrontation came along.
Yeah.
And I wasn't going to run away from it, but I didn't want to have the damn thing.
Yeah.
And isn't it?
It doesn't fuck you.
I read a quote.
I read a quote the other day.
I forget who it was by, but it was something about, like, moral courage is actually scarier than physical courage.
Yeah.
Like, when you get all ginned up and angry, physical courage is pretty easy.
Yeah.
But moral courage, it's like, I'm just trying to get my silver chain repaired.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
With that altercation today, I remember the moment where I wasn't backing down and he wasn't backing down and like he was getting angry and I'm like, well, we're going to have to fight about this.
I'll fight about this if you really want to.
Like, I don't want to fight about this, like, physically.
I don't want to fight about it verbally either, but here we go.
Yeah.
It's stressful.
Oh, it's awful.
And actually, you know, I want to.
Here's something to add to this.
Guys, like, thinking back on that job I walked off of.
Yeah.
Again, I didn't give the rousing speech.
I didn't.
Like, it would have been a really bad TikTok moment.
It feels bad, man.
But I made a fucking point.
I made a fucking point when I walked off that job.
And today, these guys want me to fill out a vaccine.
No, I'm not doing that.
Like, I really need a job, but I'm not doing that for a job.
That's the point you're making, right?
Like, it's the narcissist that wants to have the big, rousing, rebellious thing occur.
That's not what we do.
You walking off a job seriously fucks a company.
You.
Like.
This guy and I'd gone to.
You know what?
He said, initially contacted me, said they'd hired somebody else.
And then he contacted me today.
Yeah.
Why would he do that?
oh maybe because the other guy didn't want to fill out the fucking passport oh that's that is uh probable I would say probable.
There's a 24-hour.
Yeah, I would, I would, uh, I mean, speculation, but I would say probable.
Yeah.
You know, I mean.
Yeah, job's not there.
Oh, Job's here.
Are you vaccinated?
Oh, okay.
Job's not there.
What happened?
Excuse me?
Yeah.
Like, it's not narcissistic.
Like, you don't get a narcissistic supply from doing this.
No.
Do you think that fat guy is going to approach anybody else about not wearing a mask?
I hope not, but.
Well, I hope not, especially because his fucking argument.
Like, I would be more respectful if he was like, oh, well, we're in the middle of a pandemic and everybody's dying and all this bullshit.
Like, if he actually believed that, but he's like, well, I don't believe...
That was interesting to me.
I don't believe in these laws.
However, I will follow them so I can get my rights back.
Here's something else to think about.
I thought that was just a fucking dumb meme that no one actually believes.
It was a bitch move, wasn't it?
And I'll tell you, that guy has not thought about what his position is.
No, yeah.
You and me have thought long and hard, like, okay, I'm going to go to the grocery store and I'm not going to wear a mask.
And somebody might confront me.
Yeah.
And I got to be prepared for this and I can't overreact.
Can't overreact, yeah.
This guy hasn't done that.
Yeah.
And so all these words started falling out of his mouth.
Yeah.
He hadn't thought about any of that.
I'm sure he never thought I'd say no, right?
Because that is the first step.
The first step is no.
No.
And that's it.
Don't say no because you say no.
Because that puts that ball in their court, right?
Now they need to explain themselves.
And he's also scared of confrontation.
So he's trying to appease you by saying he isn't really believing it either.
But then why did you approach?
Oh, yeah.
Like the cognitive business in that man was very, very obvious.
And he didn't.
I want to get in the charitable charity.
You know what?
Do it to be charitable is be prepared to run into him again and have him apologize.
Well, I wouldn't even say that.
I would just wouldn't have him apologize.
No, no, I mean, like, assume that next time you see him, he's going to say, I'm sorry, I'm out of line.
And you'd be ready to be...
Yeah.
No, dude, it's cool.
We're all getting hammered with this shit.
Well, I don't even think of that far ahead.
It's like, if I saw him again, I just say hello.
That's it.
Hello.
Yeah.
Be like water.
Remember that very good Bruce quote?
I thought he was talking about Miyamoto Mu Musashi.
I don't know that.
Can he toss me the charger?
Yeah.
I don't want to stop vaping.
No one does.
Is it me or does the Taliban have more sensible politicians than we do?
Oh, God, the Taliban is...
I mean, that's half the reason everybody is...
Oh, the Taliban.
That's the other thing, right?
Oh, dear God.
What a fucking waste those 20 years were.
Yeah.
It's fucking demoralizing.
But at the same time, like, that's why we're talking, at least for me, why we're talking about the capture.
Cluster being natural collapse theory.
where it's like what the fuck we fighting for right maybe it oh man i hate saying it though right like i was I was saying back in 2005, we should have gone in, isolate, gone in, give us Osama, or we're going to burn down your city.
Yeah.
Gone in, got Osama, crucified him, got the fuck out.
Yeah.
And honestly, burning down every single city until they hand over Osama would have killed less Afghanis than what we actually did.
Don't tell me that I'm immoral and brutal for saying that when you fucking nice people they're cluster bees.
What blows my mind is like I've listened to the left talking about the you know the American war machine and all this shit for years and I've always defended it, being like, well, we have freedom, we have our freedom of speech, we have our freedom of assembly, we've our freedom of religion, freedom of association, we have all these freedoms.
And now like, that was like the most, one of the most devastating fucking mental memes was the Taliban saying we, they hate us for our freedom, which I think.
No, they don't have the freedoms that I, you know, ideally got no freedoms here now.
But it's like catch a damned airplane without having somebody shove their finger up your butt.
Yeah, of course, I'm not Pro-Taliban at all, but it's just like we can't have the.
The moral high ground is gone, it's fucking gone.
Yeah yes, that's a good way of putting it on, I'm not Pro-Taliban, but we have zero moral ground.
What and what?
Compared to us, they're the good guys.
Yeah well, I don't know if I go that far, but compared to, compared to them, we're the bad guys.
Let's put it that way.
I don't know I the only way I can put it is like is what we said there, we had the moral high ground.
At least we had the fucking moral high ground, and now it's.
It's with Under Biden.
There's no there's no, the American does not have the moral high ground anymore.
That is the fucking.
That is what.
That is the devastating thing about it.
And like well, and we're, we're rapidly approaching.
Here's the thing we so yeah, we lost the moral high ground with Taliban.
Yeah, that man that got into an argument with you, yeah, he assumed his moral high ground.
Yeah, and then he couldn't even explain it.
No, and we're rapidly approaching the point where institutions have lost.
Institutions exist entirely on their moral high ground.
They do.
An institution without a moral high ground is not an institution anymore.
Yeah, like a company.
That it's.
Their reputation is making a reliable product.
Yeah, and they don't make a reliable product anymore.
Yeah, that's not, that's just.
Yeah, that's a zombie.
Yeah, and so, yeah.
So anybody well, to put it bluntly, anybody in law enforcement needs to seriously question whether or not they're the good guys and what they stand for.
You know the myth of uh, the myth of George Washington and his visions?
No, he said that there would be.
It's completely like non-substantiated, it's like a myth, but apparently he had a.
Myths are usually truer than truth.
In the uh, in the depth of where it looked like he was going to lose the war, he he had a vision that America would have three struggles, first being the war of Rebel, Revolutionary War and a Civil war, and then a spiritual war which would be the most devastating, Devastating of all.
And anyway, I forget the details of it, but I think about that.
Oh, that's exactly.
I mean, Fight Club said the exact same thing.
Yeah.
And it was not, I don't believe for one second it was quoting that.
No, no, no.
No.
You know, Young talks about that, that there's the prophetic voice in dreams.
You can actually, it doesn't, you don't need to suppose the supernatural, although he does.
But yeah, right brain knows when something's coming.
I read an Ann Lander's article back in 1995 about the collapse of the Roman Republic, comparing it to the impiety of today's world.
So we've known this is coming for a long time.
Yeah.
It was the body for the myth, anyways.
The War of Independence was the body of America, the structure of America.
And then the spirit being the Civil War.
And then the soul.
The final war.
But according to the myth, anyway, it was the most brutal, but America prevailed in the end.
Well, and we will.
Hopefully that happens.
This is the other part that I haven't.
This is why I'm giving it my own coining.
Cluster B capture collapse theory.
And the collapse is what I'm adding to it.
And as an example, so one of the stories of Cluster B recruitment, like high-level.
See, low-level cluster B recruitment is when the bully convinces you to bully other people in high school.
Yeah.
Or you date somebody that's abusive or whatever.
That's low-level Cluster B, standard Cluster B shit.
Whereas what we've been seeing more and more over the past couple decades is cluster bees scouting, not for victims, but for other cluster bees.
And that's, you had one of those stories.
I related in the article.
Basically, a guy comes on to you and you think it's a homosexual at first, but then like, wait, he's not a homosexual.
And he takes you out for dinner.
And what was the superpower he was going to show you?
How to do mind control.
You want to see me?
Mind control the waitress?
Yeah, yeah, it was a very bizarre experience.
And it's been a year or something, like more than 10 years.
Oh, yeah.
You only remembered this because I sent you a different article that included a cluster B trying to recruit somebody.
And I was like, that sounds familiar.
That reminds me of this time that this guy was like, you're an interesting person.
You seem very observant.
What a weird thing to say about somebody.
You seem observant.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And for me, too, like, I'm a very curious person.
Like, oh, you're, you're different.
You're different.
Tell me about yourself.
That's always, that's my personality.
Actually, I might have said the same thing if I approached you back in the day.
Yeah.
I was like, you seem to know what's going on.
Let's go.
Here, let's hang out, man.
You seem interested.
I am a completely curious person.
You know, how we met.
Don't forget how we met, Davis.
You were like, you had your YouTube videos, and you're like, let's meet in meet space.
And I was like, what am I going to lose?
Oh, shit, I thought I met you through here in Cleary.
No, no.
No, you had that open call for your people that watch your videos to come and meet up.
I was like, all right, let's try it.
Right, right.
Hey, I guess it wasn't a complete waste of time then.
No.
No.
So, yeah, anyway, he's like, oh, come on out.
I'll buy you dinner.
And he's invited me to this really expensive restaurant.
And I was like, kind of on edge.
Why are you doing this?
This is too much, man.
This is too much, yeah.
And he was there with this beautiful woman, and like, it was, like, ambiguous to relationship.
And she was very deferral to him, like, always deferred to him.
And, like, I could never talk to her.
He would just, she would just be like, just talk to that guy.
I know you had like a college prof that took you out for like a drink or dance.
Yeah, right?
And like, maybe it's all like, everything's like you understand the relationship with your college professor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I thought like this guy's probably gay, but he's like, why is this.
But he's got this beautiful woman that's deferring to him.
Yeah.
Like he doesn't seem gay, but he's overly interested in me.
Yeah, like with the college professor that's interested in you, there's no.
Yeah, you're a student.
Like, I'm here.
That's what I do.
I teach you.
And he's interested in you because he's looking for a colleague in philosophy or history or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
I mean, you're just a young person to chat with, right?
Like, there's nothing we, whereas there's like, there's something going on with this, and the best metaphor would be homosexual interest.
But it didn't seem that way.
No, like, you don't.
You don't take a random guy out to a fancy restaurant because you want to fuck him.
Yeah.
You figure out in the first 30 seconds if it's a yes or a no.
Yeah.
If it's a no, you go back to grinder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I couldn't think of it that way.
But yeah, he took me out and paid for my meal.
And like.
And during the meal, he was like, what do you think of mind control?
I mean, like, mind control exists.
So, like, that was like in a big debate the whole time.
Like, he kept coming back to mind control.
And he was like, well, I can, if, if I can get the waiter or the waitress to go upstairs unnecessarily, is that mind control?
Like, no, that's persuasion.
That's not mind control.
So I never got him to demonstrate his mind control abilities, but.
That's all they are.
That's all they are.
Like, the cluster bees think they have these amazing superpowers.
These amazing powers of manipulation.
Yelling at somebody until they do what you want is not a superpower.
It's being a jerk.
You know, it's.
When we look at the media terrorizing people for two years now about this scary virus, that's not a superpower.
You just scared people because people are afraid of dying.
Yeah.
Right?
But they act like that's some sort of really advanced manipulation technique.
That's it.
It's a good lord.
I know every manipulation technique in the book.
Yeah.
Right?
And I don't.
Back when I was selling cars, I didn't use most of them.
Yeah.
And yet I kept more gross in the vehicles than anybody else.
You want to know why?
Because I was fucking honest with people.
And I listened to them and I found out what they wanted and I found, I'm like, it sounds like you want this.
I'm like, holy shit, that's totally what I want.
Yeah.
I was telling Davis how interesting it is, like, the feeling of being unsettled by someone wanting something from you, but you can't figure out what it is.
And that the closest cult.
That was the feeling I had.
And I still don't really know what the fuck that guy wanted.
He wanted another Cluster B.
Yeah.
And actually, I ran into.
So I like to listen to horror stories when I go to sleep.
Right?
And, you know, some of them are like 4chan.
Because you're normal.
I listen to horror stories before I go to sleep because I'm normal.
Whatever, man.
I find them comforting.
Oh, man.
I'm kind of a weird guy, aren't I?
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
That's why I like you.
I actually find horror usually comforting.
I kind of get not what you're saying, right?
Me too, in later life.
I actually grew up in a house where my father was like, if you listen to horror movies, you're disturbed.
You're like an evil person because you're like, there's something wrong with you.
And like, but no, I like horror stories because it's fucking fiction, and I understand that evil exists in the world, and that is far more scary.
Well, and you notice in most horror stories, like the person that the evil happens to, they did something to deserve it.
Oh, yeah.
World War Z, that book?
Love that book.
You read it?
Oh, God, yeah.
The book's amazing.
Guys, don't watch the movies crap.
Read the book, it's fantastic.
And the commentary on the book by the author, Max Brooks, brilliant.
Like, he's talking about how zombies are an interesting horror theme because the classical horror theme is the adventurer goes to the heart, the monster's home, and they get fucked.
The zombie is they come to your home.
And I think that is why zombie movies have become so popular because, like, fuck, you can't escape the horror of the zombie, right?
You can escape the horror of a vampire.
Oh, yeah.
of a zombie, or sorry not a zombie, but Frankenstein.
Well, Frankenstein, it's the human is the monster.
Yeah, his human is monster.
The absentee father.
Yeah, but for most, like, the dragon, I think it's the very archetypical.
You go to find the dragon.
The dragon's not fucking with you.
They might fuck with you if you're a rich guy and they got gold, but the common man, anyway.
Yeah, the undead are, it's us.
And you want to see a great undead movie?
Let me in.
It's a vampire movie, and it's a cluster B movie.
It is.
Yeah, it's about a vampire.
Let me in.
Because a vampire can't come into your home unless you invite it.
Yes.
And I love that.
Cluster Bs cannot come into your life unless if you invite them.
Yep.
Maybe I'm dealing with another Cluster B that I'm invited in right now.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, I like to listen to horror stories.
I'm falling asleep.
Yeah.
Give me.
I have less nightmares that way.
I was listening to a really interesting thread by a guy that I.
It was unfortunate.
He's about five years older than me discussing the Dungeons and Dragons and Wicca scenes of the 90s.
And I had some brush-ups with these back when, back in the early aughts, right?
when it was kind of it was kind of winding down at that point but it really stood out to me because i've been thinking about cluster bees and the way they think they have superpowers because they can look at me i can trick somebody into giving me five dollars It's not a superpower, just a clever little bunch of bullshit that you do when it catches up with you eventually.
But they were talking about the old Wicca scene.
And like these Wiccans, I used to know a covenant of Wiccans back in Hamilton.
And they were, God, they were so bitch-made.
They were so bitch-made.
Like, they were just this collective of misfits that thought they were better than everybody else.
Right?
And they'd have their stupid rituals and their little psychic bullshit.
And it was the same, it was the exact same genre of shitty little manipulation techniques.
And so it started clicking.
So like the big thing right now with Cluster Bs is social media inducing cluster B behavior.
But back in the 90s, 90s and odds, before social media, there was this Gnostic undercurrent of like of Wicca, of Vampire the Masquerade, all these people that weren't actually cluster B, but they were behaving very cluster B.
They were pursuing the cluster B ideal.
And there's a lot of that going on.
Because the commenter on the 4chan post said, we all make fun of parents in the 80s saying that DD would lead to demon worship.
Yeah.
And there's nothing.
I play DD.
Okay, it's a fantastic game.
You play a paladin and fight demons.
But there is this distinct undercurrent of these people that they want power over others.
When I think of that, I think it's almost as a precursor of identity politics.
Because the worry was that you identify so much with your hero, you become the hero.
And there was one or two cases of people like their hero died, so they killed themselves.
There actually wasn't.
The media reported that.
Yeah, I can see that being fake news.
But at the same time.
There's a kid that played one DD session, had a lot of personal troubles, and then he committed suicide three months later.
Yeah.
They blamed it on DD.
Okay, yeah.
Although that makes complete sense, but at the same time, the precursor of identity politics, right?
This is identify with this thing, I live and die for this thing.
Being cultish.
And I'm sure that there was something that that DD guy was probably very cultish in his DD.
Oh, yeah.
This Wiccan group was completely cultish.
I got completely.
By the way, there is something to it.
Which is why I love so much about your special containment unit.
Oh, yeah, I wrote an SCP article.
Yeah, you gotta publish that on your website at least.
I think I should.
I love it.
I think it's great.
I don't want to deal with all the submission guidelines on their damn website.
I tried to do it.
I spent like three hours even getting a login for their damn website, and then I got told off for not submitting the damn thing properly.
It's a good SCP asshole.
It's great.
And I've been telling Davis he's got to make this into a novel.
Yeah, I think, alright, guys.
I'll publish the SCP story on Monday on my website.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm surprised you haven't done it already.
I don't know why you haven't.
Rejection hits me hard, man.
It's good.
I think it's one of my favorite things you've ever written.
No.
You like my weird stuff, eh?
I do, yeah.
I think you do more weird stuff.
Yeah, I think.
I'm a weird guy.
I'm sick of trying to, you know.
You know, you, uh.
What's his face there?
Salad fingers.
You love him.
Oh, God, I love David Firth.
Yeah, like, when I describe David Firth as likely a schizotypal, I am not bullying him.
I know.
Because you're similar.
Oh, God, yeah.
You are, yeah.
Oh, yeah, totally.
Oh, yeah.
I'm just very, very logical.
I'm highly schizotypal.
I think you should lean into your artistic side.
Yeah.
Which is why I encourage you with your music stuff.
Even though you didn't like the latest one, I...
I didn't dislike it, but.
But I actually liked your more schizotypal, weird, weird thing better.
Experimental?
Yeah, you know, he gave me this fucking awesome cowboy beat, and I just had to go with it.
Even that one's kind of schizotypal.
It's like, starts off as like a cowboy ballot, turns into like fighting demons and theology and shit.
Want me to critique it?
Sure.
I like the other one better because it is more experimental and spoken word and artsy.
I find that the cowboy one has a lot of potential, but you need more.
It's more musical.
It leans into musicality, so you would need to really lean into it.
We need more musicality in it.
You would need, like, I always, I was actually listening to a similar song.
It was like, if you had like a chorus singing the chorus type thing, which is like, you don't have the budget for that.
You know what I mean?
Like, I so, but so maybe we remade.
You know what?
It was actually so hard to do.
Yeah.
Right?
I know you put effort into it.
Oh, oh, yeah.
And I think we look like you learned a lot.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
It's not.
You know, I'm sure.
I'm sure it's, you know, I like it.
I encourage you doing it.
But I'm just kind of thinking about how I made a little track for you, a visual track through using Blender.
And how I hid the fact that it was computer generated by using distortion.
So I went further into the abstract to make it look more real.
I don't know if I'm going to explain that.
I think I get what you're saying.
Yeah, so I went more experimental to make it like beyond to make it feel more ambience.
We've got a lot more ideas.
But anyway.
Our guitarist, by the way, the guitarist guys are totally based.
Oh, yeah.
He just picked up a new metal guitar.
I don't know.
We got some ideas.
We got some ideas.
Anyway, I'm also leaning into my art vague ways.
Yeah, I'm.
You know, God, I've spent like, what, 10 fucking years just trying to talk sense to people.
Yeah.
And I'm getting pretty damn tired of that.
I just want to talk crazy to people now.
I know, hey?
Me too.
My whole fucking life, I'm like, I want to be logical.
And then the people that I knew that were logical are becoming less logical.
Oh, good.
You were telling me.
So, Big L has a friend that's actually teaching philosophy.
The guy has a degree in the philosophy.
Oh, I know multiple philosophy professors.
Multiple.
And you showed me, you were having a conversation with him.
Yeah.
Like, he had to show me.
This was an abusive conversation.
The guy's using nothing but logical fallacies without it.
And that's, it's not like he's showing me private comments.
No, this is an abusive fucking conversation.
It would be abusive from a normal person.
This guy's a philosopher, a degree in logic.
I know multiple philosophy professors because I wanted to be a philosophy professor.
I could have been.
But I was like, I don't want to play this fucking game.
And all of, oh man, I talked to these philosophy professors.
They're complete sellouts.
And it's just Jesus.
You know what logic is.
You choose not.
You choose not to.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
Like.
It's brutal.
I had somebody ridiculing me for not living up to my ambitions.
But it's.
Because when I was 20 years old, I had no idea how badly the game was rigged.
And not just, not just rigged.
Like, you gotta butter the right ass to get hired.
Rigged as in, you have to sell out the thing that you did.
You have to sell out logic to be a professor of logic.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I remember, like, I was saying earlier to you anyway, not on stream.
I took logic with this one person I'm thinking of, and he did better than I did.
And he's using every fucking logical fallacy in the book.
And I'm just like, you're not fooling me.
I don't know if you're fooling yourself because that's what it feels like.
Which is the saddest part.
It's like, how the fuck did you get captured?
I need a lot to get captured.
Because you know.
You know what I'm saying?
You know you're lying right now.
You know.
Maybe he doesn't know he's lying.
He ought to know he's lying.
Well, not lying, but he ought to know that he's lying to himself.
You know what I mean?
For example, to make it concrete, I was saying, do you think that freedom of speech is under assault?
He said no.
And I said, well, what about Rand Paul posting Senate footage on YouTube and YouTube taking it down?
And his response was, I hate Rand Paul and everything he stands for.
So, that's not the point.
In the conversation of free speech being under assault, that was his response.
Again, in an actual...
It's hard to bring it to...
It's heartbreaking, man.
This is like the one guy that's like my brother.
Growing up, like, this is the guy.
This is my brother.
Yep.
You know, I was saying to you that with the way things are going, the amount of lying and manipulation and like just the sheer level of all of it, like the cluster B behavior.
You and I are just legitimately not capable of doing that.
I cannot be that evil.
I'm not mentally or biologically capable of it.
But what we would be capable of, and this goes for all you guys in the audience as well.
Look the other way.
While the cult leader is raping the 14-year-old girl, look the other way.
You know, ignore the massive hypocrisy that this business is getting up to.
Look the other way.
Oh, this business wanted me to file a vaccine, whatever, but they still hired me even though I'm not vaccinated.
Okay, look the other way.
Right?
And that's like looking the other way is all that needs to happen for the child molesters to rape kids.
Like, they know they can't drag us to the same level.
Like, we are just not constitutionally capable of doing that.
Yeah.
I love your extreme analogies.
Yeah.
See, this is the thing that I always love about you that I see in myself, is the extreme analogy, but I try to keep it under control.
I don't.
Talking about, yeah, talking about mental types, like the type A, it's a typo.
It's like, it turns so many people off, right?
And it turned me off, too.
You're going way off the rails now.
That's what I'm thinking, right?
But, I, like, well, but I'd rather have someone like going off the rails in a logical way than someone that's, you know, type B, like, denial.
Denial.
Anyway, I don't have any questions.
My favorite David Firth is the health.
Yeah, I think I'm afraid of the health.
And you fucking love the schizotypal shit way more than I do.
You sent me so much shit that I'm like, what is.
This is kind of interesting, I guess.
What the hell is this?
You fucking love it.
I'm like, that's interesting, I guess.
He does a series of health reminders, which, like, what they're really about is that, well, and what we're with, like, he did them five years ago.
Yeah.
And I was kind of writing a novel that involved a mental health institution.
I'm glad I didn't write it, but I was kind of doing something similar with that, where it becomes, I think, was it Fox Day that put it like this?
It used to be that your physician would discuss the options with you, and you would make an informed decision.
That was the core of medicine.
But we've gone from that to medicine by fiat, where some obscure esoteric organization has decided what the correct treatment for everything is.
So ivermectin, even though it won the Nobel Prize in 2015, it's now horse-paced, and only idiots use it that don't believe in medicine.
And so, David further did the series where there's just this dictatorial, tyrannical doctor saying, take this pill.
Will this make things better?
No, it will make things worse.
I need to watch that again.
I think he's out of his time.
And I was seeing the exact same thing.
I don't like doctors.
I don't like the medical establishment.
I do not like what it's become.
Well, this is why I think you're such a great writer, is because when we do these talks, they're all off the wall, and we're drinking and we're balancing lights.
I'm all about sources.
Yeah.
And I think it's way better when you write, even though it's hard because people don't read anymore.
Yeah, well, actually, when you're writing, the same with me, right?
When I write, it's way more logical and coherent than when I talk.
It's very much with YouTube.
This is why I like your writing so much more than your.
Oh, because the schizotypal gets boiled off and you have like a little bit of sense.
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Completely, 100%.
And that's why I admire your writing so much more because I think you're more schizotypal than I am.
But when you actually write shit down, it's like, oh, I forced it into something logical.
You force the logic into yourself.
I think that's why I'm a slow writer.
a very slow writer guys like it's me too Me too.
It's part of the reason I haven't really pursued writing, making money.
Because I know some guys can just punch stuff out really fast, but like a thousand words takes me a few hours.
Oh, God.
A few hours?
That sounds fast to me.
Yeah.
How come the unvaxxed Taliban aren't dropping like flies?
Yeah, exactly.
They've banned the vax in Tal.
I would almost be tempted to move to Afghanistan.
Almost.
Yeah, but not quite.
Not quite.
Manny says, some young men and boys that circled the elites have died of committed suicide.
Oh, there have been a lot of suicides lately.
Yeah.
I'm going to change my gab account to keep track.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry, go back to the schizotypal thing.
It reminds me of.
I had a friend in university.
And I. Alright, I'm saying, like, I don't understand a fucking word you say most of the time.
I want to read a paper you read.
You wrote, and I wrote a paper, and I gave it to him.
He's like, I don't understand how you can write such a coherent paper when I don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.
That's how I feel sometimes talking to you, Davis.
Do me a favor.
Look personality disorders.
Wow.
No, I'm going to describe the three type A's to you.
Yeah.
You got to remind me what they're called, though.
There's schizoid, schizotypal.
Okay.
If you type personality disorder, it should auto-complete.
Wikipedia.
Type A personality traits.
No, no, that's something else.
Oh?
What do you want?
Personality disorder.
But do you want type B or type A?
No, no, I want the personality disorders.
Okay.
And it has a subsection.
Personality Disorders, Wikipedia.
Okay, personality disorder.
And scroll down, it'll have type A. What are the three types again?
They might have changed it since then.
Nah, I was just checking it like yesterday.
Let me, let me, all right, all right.
Yep, this is the right one.
Here we go.
Cluster A. Paranoid!
Schizoid!
Schizotypal!
Yep.
Right.
So.
Right.
Paranoid.
We all know what paranoid is.
Dale Gribble.
Yeah.
Except, he's right about a lot of shit, isn't he?
Yeah.
It's like this fundamentally different, like, the way that he weights evidence that comes into his eyes is drastically different from how everybody else weighs it.
And, yeah, he's kind of like out to lunch most of the time, but he sees real conspiracies that are happening that nobody else wants to admit constantly.
Yeah.
Then you got schizoid, which actually, no, I think schizoid is what David Firth is.
Yeah.
Where schizoid is you just got this really bizarre interpretation of events.
So David Firth looks at this medical establishment that is becoming increasingly centralized and tyrannical and imagines it being this tyrannical doctor forcing everybody to take pills.
Which, like, obviously that's not exactly what's happening, but it's kind of what's happening.
Now the schizotypal, this is the weaponized autism of 4chan, where the schizotypal is, and this is also Tesla, where they're not interested in interpersonal relationships.
They are obsessed with some sort of data point to the point that it's maladaptive.
And this is how they managed to figure out where exactly the anti-Trump flag was posted.
These are actually all the same thing.
If you think about it, it's all the same thing.
The paranoid, the schizoid, the schizotypal.
It's the opposite of a normie.
It's somebody that's completely uninterested in what the crowd is believing and what the crowd is up to.
And they've got their own thing they're interested in.
You hear that?
Yep.
Yeah.
That's why I feel like.
So that theory that the four cluster B's are the same thing makes a lot of sense.
When you think about the cluster A's, they're all basically the same thing.
Yeah.
Right?
Like the where's the line between David Firth and paranoia?
I don't know.
He does it in an artsy way that's not necessarily saying that this is happening.
It's more a commentary.
It's commentary rather than factual theory.
Like in my opinion, which might be biased because I'm definitely cluster A.
It's the cluster A is like the mad geniuses, the prophets, the crazy people that you need to keep everybody else in check.
Extremely humble people, humble people.
Oh yeah, we are very humble.
It was so revelatory when that guy, I forget who even said it.
He's like, I don't understand what the fuck you're saying when he talked to me, but when I read your paper, it made so much sense.
Because it's like, to me, I had like a fucking brilliant bullshit detector, which is like, if you think of like language, like you can, there's a difference between the passive understanding and the active understanding.
Like, the ability to describe.
It takes me a fucking long time to describe things logically and make logical arguments.
But I can immediately hear bullshit and just say, bullshit!
But that's not persuasive.
Not for the normies.
No.
Works for me.
No, it works for me too.
Bullshit.
Yeah.
And people that I know that trust me, they're like, okay, there's something bullshit about that.
But if I actually have to go and like explain it, I need to think about it for a while.
I need to write, and it takes me hours to explain why it's bullshit.
I should add that to my dating profile.
Yeah.
Really loves cuddling.
Mildly insane.
Might work.
Might work.
Mildly insane in a good way.
Mildly insane, but not dangerous.
That's the other thing I love about Gribble, too.
Or Gribble or Gribble, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that he's actually not dangerous.
No.
He is a paranoiac, right?
The guy is paranoid, but he's not dangerous.
And he's a loyal friend.
Yeah.
Yeah, like cluster A's and cluster C's are not dangerous.
No, not at all.
No more than anybody else, anyway.
I mean, like, everybody's a little bit dangerous.
I would say even maybe less so.
But anyway.
Yeah, because you know they're a little bit off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I've always told you, since I've known you, what I always said, everybody's insane in their own unique way.
Whereas the cluster.
No, cluster B's, don't fuck with people.
Oh, the other part of the collapse, the collapse part of it, is that because the cluster B's, they don't actually have magic tricks, right?
It's nothing but sin for the Wiccans.
Like, yeah, there is some stuff that happens.
There's some stuff that regular objective science can't explain, but it's not useful.
It's no more useful than lying to somebody to sell a car is useful.
No, I sold cars and my customers loved me and they'd come and visit me anytime they came for an oil change and I actually cut more gross than the damn cars.
Right?
That's what you want.
No, you lie about a car, they fucking hate you after that.
And that's all the cluster bees can do.
They've got all these shitty little tricks that work in a high-trust society, but eventually, and this is where we're at right now, the cluster B capture has been so effective that all these institutions are going to collapse.
Yeah, I hope so.
One.
I can't imagine if they will.
Will not, I should say.
They will not collapse.
Look at Afghanistan.
We created, like, the whole Afghani army that we created was to a certain degree a cluster B creation.
Yeah.
Right?
Like it.
They didn't want us there.
Nobody would join an army of an like sellouts join that sort of army.
Yeah.
And guess what?
As soon as we left, boom, the whole army fell over backwards.
Yeah, and then other side of the pond, extreme other side, people in insane Harvard professors are talking about how the Harvard brand is collapsing.
You know?
Higher education is collapsing.
Google's collapsing.
Everybody wanted to work for Google 10 years ago.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
I've known people like normal people are waking up to the fact that Google curates your searches.
I know at least one person that used to work for Google and is very happy to not work there anymore.
At least one.
Yeah.
And I don't know if they will collapse, those big, like, Google or Facebook.
They've got a lot of momentum, but they're not.
But it's like if Afghanistan could collabs, why can't Google or Facebook?
Why not?
Now, we're talking about the church, and I'm, yeah, I think the Vatican's been taken over by Cluster B's.
Which is also why I don't give a shit what the Vatican says about anything.
They can go fly a fucking kite.
They're cluster Bs.
Yeah.
But I'm not worried about the church.
Because the same reason I'm not worried about the medical establishment.
Medical establishment's been taken over by cluster B's.
I mean, look, Fauci is a classic.
You know, from where I'm sitting, he looks like a classic Cluster B where any manipulation he can do.
Oh, we have this thing called HIV and AIDS.
What if we apply this toxic drug from 20 years ago?
Yeah.
And then prevent anybody from noticing that it's killing millions of gay people.
That's cluster B behavior.
Like manipulate, manipulate, manipulate.
He's killing the CDC.
Like, I've got zero respect for the CDC.
He's not killing doctors.
He's not killing...
Now, he's making life very difficult for doctors and nurses right now.
Yeah.
But guess what?
In 20 years, we're still going to have doctors and nurses.
We are still going to have priests.
We are still going to have all of this.
People have columns.
People do these things.
Speaking of cluster A and Cluster B, though, isn't it interesting you went talking about Afghanistan to the Catholic Church?
Wait, why?
I'm not catching this.
Go on.
No, isn't it just funny?
Well, this is the thing I'm kind of like looking at in my own conversations.
I love conversations, especially if they're unique and weird.
That's what you hang out with.
Yeah.
But aren't we all over the place?
I think we've maintained a fairly coherent conversation.
I think we have, but at the same time, the last couple times I've talked on these streams, I've been trying to keep things on topic as an experiment, and I think they're better.
I think they're better.
I don't know.
Maybe the audience can agree or disagree.
Well, you guys, is Big Elgin better at streaming?
Well, it's not me getting better.
I think the streams are getting better because I'm doing this kind of experiment of keeping things on topic more and more because we go all over the place often, which I like.
I don't mind it.
One of my favorite things.
But I've wondered about the audience, right?
I'm about to go off topic.
One of the things I love about MSN Messenger is that I used to be having three different conversations with the same person at the same time.
Yes!
That's amazing you bring that up.
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do we do that anymore?
I remember doing that too, like, because you're having, like, people are going and having coffee or whatever, like, and they're getting back and like addressing every point.
Oh, no, I'd have them in real time where there's literally three conversations happening.
And I'm going to say what I think about theology now about the political situation.
Man, I really miss that vertical seafood taco.
Yeah, yes.
I don't have those conversations anymore.
That is really interesting.
You and I sort of do.
Yeah, a little bit.
I think we have two at a time.
I think, yeah, me and you, a little bit.
But I used to have those with lots of friends.
Yeah, I didn't...
Okay, so maybe part of it, we're getting older, and we're a little bit more...
Like our new ideas aren't as fast as our old new ideas.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I think that's a part of it.
Like our.
Yeah.
I wonder if younger people are still doing that.
Having conversations where it's like three different conversations with the same person at the same time.
Yeah, but it's aside from I'm not really talking to as many people anymore.
No, me neither, sadly.
I try to, but fuck.
It's hard.
Oh, I hate it.
It breaks my heart.
You know, they have to.
I mean, okay, so we are getting older.
We're a little bit, is it mature wisdom?
Is it laziness?
Let's walk down and fuck all of them, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think the whole thing, like...
Our ideas are a lot more complex.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a lot more caveats to them.
Yeah.
Complex and crystallized.
Intelligence is probably diminishing a bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Dude, I just did a new degree a few years ago.
It hurt my brain.
Yeah.
And yet, no, I don't think it's like, okay, there's that aspect of it.
But that, I think, is used...
See, like, normally it's...
Yeah, normally.
Late 20s is when people stop having new ideas.
And it's not that.
Well, most people.
The Benjamin Franklin quote that I love.
You know it?
Yes, tell us the quote.
The quote.
Most people die.
Oh, I'm forgetting the numbers.
I think it's most people die at 25 and are buried at 75.
Yeah.
oh it's brutal it's fucking isn't that a fucking brutally honest and beautiful thing to say anyway And you're walking proof, it has nothing to do with being settled.
Right?
You have this fantastic IKEA catalog apartment.
Yeah.
You got a wife.
You got a baby.
Maybe a little bit later than most, but you got a baby.
Oh, yeah.
Like you are super responsible and settled.
And yet you're still having new ideas.
Oh, yeah.
Still learning new skills.
I would...
One of the things...
He's been ditching himself 3D animation.
Yeah, one of my favorite quotes was from the 80s, the breakfast club.
When you grow up, your heart dies.
Yeah, and that's...
It's so true for so many people.
And that's something I always rejected growing up.
Yeah, you've got to reject.
I'm like, no, I'm not going to let my heart die.
I'm not going to.
I think I'm aging pretty gracefully.
Like, I can't wait to turn 40 in a couple of weeks.
I've been wanting to be 40 my whole life.
And there's this one.
Talking about that, that quote, probably why I love it so much.
It's the when I was learning philosophy, oh no.
I've forgotten the philosopher that talked about it, but I think it was Saint Augustine, who I remember reading him and being like, this is amazing.
He's basically making Descartes' argument about the mind.
And I think, therefore, I am.
Like, he's saying, like, my mind extends as far as my experiences and my interests.
And, you know, to think the end of my experiences, to think both sides of those experiences, right?
Like, that paradox.
Anyway, Augustine is basically saying the same thing, but he was saying in terms of love.
I love, therefore, I am.
Because I have interest is another, like, filia, right?
Philia is love.
Like, I am as far as my knowledge.
I am as far as my interests extend, which in his time was like, I am as far as my love extends.
And so I should never stop loving.
I should never stop having interests.
Anyway, I don't know if I'm rambling.
No, you're not.
You maybe are rambling.
Dins, kids, like the whole type.
The love.
See, we came to, for some reason, we started worshiping intellect for some damn reason.
And when the ancients were talking about love, they meant the same thing as intellect.
Or at least something very close.
Similar, yeah.
Like coquito ergosum.
Yeah.
And God is the logos.
To say that the existence of self is the cognition of self.
And for the, and we're going back to like Babylon.
All right.
So that's, what, 4,000 BC?
3,000?
4,000?
No, no, no.
Sounds right.
I think it's 4,000.
To say that, you know, like, there was the word and God said the word and God was the word.
Like, word intonation is the, like, why are the words I love you so damn powerful?
Yeah.
Right?
Like, to vocalize an affirmation of your feelings in the moment and having them received in the moment.
It's like love and cognition.
We've done this, God, the past few hundred years.
We've kind of like tried to separate emotions and intelligence.
Yep.
And wisdom fell out in the middle.
I like that.
I like that.
I think it needs a lot more elaborating, but I like that.
Yeah, I think I've been quite the ball home.
C.S. Lewis said something similar in men without chests, right?
He was polite enough to say guts instead of genitals, but by the way, I should mention that my wife is very perturbed by my interactions lately.
However, liking them to keep things perfect.
It's funny, isn't it so funny when you've got a wife or a femme and they're really upset by what you did, but they also approve of it.
Yeah.
And I think that's the way to be.
Like, I fucking hate these interactions.
Yeah, fucking bad.
I'm not proud of it.
I'm like, why the fuck do I have to have these interactions?
No, I want to.
It makes me angry that I have to do this.
One of the nice bits of Fallout from the mask wearing is, at least until now, how happy and friendly everybody was this summer.
Like, folks, I seriously had three or four people come up and compliment my outfit on multiple days.
I was there, yeah.
And completely unprovoked, just like, hey, here's some positive energy, fellow citizen.
Yes.
Just because we weren't wearing these fucking masks that make everybody look like a super villain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, when I was talking to that young guy in the elevator, it felt like that.
was like remember when we were free let's let's just i don't know who the fuck you are but like the left the elevator Look at the human.
I like humans.
Yes, yes.
It felt like that was like the carrying on, even though we had this fucking mandate that came in overnight.
It was like, oh, hey, fellow human, you're not wearing a mask.
Let's have fun together.
Well, then.
For a brief moment.
The article I'm working on, I start with a quote from Quintus Curtius.
Yeah.
Which, you don't remember it verbatim, do you?
No.
It was something like, it was something like, he is so good at rhetoric.
This is what happens when you study the Greeks, okay?
Don't let anybody tell you Latin is a dead language.
It's nothing but life.
It was something like...
I like that.
Sorry.
I like that thing you said.
That's good.
I like it.
Oh, God.
Buy some of Quintus Curtius' books, okay?
Like, he doesn't translate at random.
Translates stuff that needs to be translated and you need to be reading.
It was something like, like, fuck all these people that say it's all dead and give up and whatever.
No, have integrity, have morality.
Our day is coming.
The day of moral integrity is fucking coming.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
They.
Cluster B Capture Collapse.
It's all about.
Yeah, they've taken over fucking everything.
They've taken over journalists.
They've taken over the church.
They've taken over.
You name it.
They've taken over video games quite clearly.
Our day is coming where being genuine and being having integrity, being ethical, that day is fucking coming.
And that the huge temptation right now, we've got all these psychopaths running everything, and you're like, I'll just compromise a little bit to keep my job and go along.
Do not be that person.
Our day is coming very fucking soon.
Well, you know, I think that there was a good argument to say that until, like, to me, anyways, like, this is it.
We've reached the Rubicon.
Like, no, don't, don't concede anymore.
We conceded enough.
Like, where is the line?
That's what I want to ask.
Like, I've been talking to leftist friends that I've known in my childhood that I really loved.
And I've been trying to figure out where the line is with them, and I can't figure it out.
And I just want to ask them point blank, where is the line?
Where is your.
But me having to point that out, like, it's like, I already know that it's not in a good place.
As opposed to your radical relatives.
Yeah.
Right?
The sisters-in-laws?
Yeah.
They're like, no, this is the line.
Yeah, yes.
Yeah, that should be like complete left-wing NDP supporters.
They're like, the line has passed.
Yeah.
Which is very heartening.
Yeah, I was reading.
What's his name?
I can't remember.
Reading a bunch of.
Fox Day introduced me to this guy.
Weird thinker.
Been reading a bunch of his stuff.
Yeah, he was talking about how the liberal and Republican or liberal and conservative have been swapped.
And I don't think they have.
I think he's wrong about that.
No.
I am still.
Like, you and I lean law and order.
Yeah.
We're very law and orderly types.
Yep.
Now we have appreciation for the artists and the weirdos and whatnot.
It's funny.
Even me being like schizotypal, I'm still very law and order.
Yeah.
Schizotypal.
Which I don't think there's.
I don't think it's mutually exclusive, right?
I don't think they are.
No.
I would say the type B's are more so exclusive of law and order because everything is like when I think of type B's, I think of Thracynicus.
What is justice?
Helping your friends and hurting your enemies.
That's what I think it would type B. Except their only friend is themselves.
I wouldn't say that's necessarily true for all type Bs.
I would say for narcissists and psychopaths, maybe.
Oh, no, all of them.
No, but I'd say all of them.
Well, I would say that for like narcissists, their friends aren't really friends.
They're extensions of themselves.
I'd say for all of them.
In a way, it is themselves.
You know what I mean?
Everybody they associate with is providing utility.
Yeah.
Well, no, I would say that.
No, I would say for a narcissist, like yourself isn't necessarily the monad of yourself.
It's also your power group is part of yourself for the narcissists.
Some, at least, at least not that, like, that the malignant narcissist, like the Donald.
I mean, the guy we're talking about says that Donald Trump is a narcissist.
And I agree with that.
And I would, yeah, maybe, I kind of agree, but like, I could see like a narcissist being like, if you want to say, like, the nation is a part of yourself and be like, I want to represent the nation, then, like, there's a bit of narcissism to that.
It's not necessarily, it's not malignant, it's actually benevolent narcissism, right?
Oh, shoot, I just learned how to pronounce this guy's name: Dinginger.
Yeah.
Dinginger.
It's not Denninger, it's Dinginger.
Yeah.
He posted that we could have stopped all illegal immigration by just banning financial transfers to the coyotes.
Yeah.
Which Trump talked about doing.
And then he failed to do.
Well, yeah.
You know.
Don't make excuses for the prick.
Well, I.
I mean, think about us being, if you were a leader, you've got a thousand choices to make a day.
I would say one of the number one things is our nations are being flooded by.
Like, listen, we could.
If the immigration were entirely PhD holders from Taiwan.
Yeah.
Right?
So, like, forget, forget any.
This is not about race.
Yeah.
This is not about racism.
This is not about crime rates.
This is if we had nothing but PhDs from Taiwan flowing into our countries at the rate they're coming in.
Yeah.
It would still be disrupt.
It would still be disruptive and destructive to the culture because new people coming into a neighborhood and just popping up all over the damn place.
Yeah.
It just disrupts social trust.
Yeah.
It so you get more crime, you get more alcohol, you get like all the negative social factors go up when social trust goes down.
It disrupts the employment of the native population.
Yeah.
Like it's a net negative and the population of the second and third world is increasing faster, a hundred times faster than the immigration rate.
So we are being flooded with immigrants and yet we're not doing a dent in the population of the third or second world.
So there's no, there is no humanitarian argument for this.
Yeah.
It's like you're not relieving pressure.
You're not giving a bit.
Like, no, no, you are.
It's a drop in the bucket.
It's a drop in the fucking bucket in a humanitarian sense.
And it's causing so much social destruction in the Western nations who we are the ones that will be solving the world's problems.
And we're trying, like, we want to.
For fuck's sake, we want to.
I think I mentioned to you last time that there's this initiative, which is the Build a Village with the Container Project.
Yeah.
It's a C container with like a tractor and some solar panels and water filters and whatnot.
The idea is to get all this versatile interchangeable technology in a sea container that you could build a village anywhere on the planet aside from Australia.
I don't mean New Holland.
Australia is the counterweight continent, so the North Pole doesn't fall off.
The place with the dingoes and the that's New Holland.
I refuse to call it Australia.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, like it's gonna be the first world solving.
Like the great contribution of the first world is not allowing a few dozen people to move here.
Yeah.
It is inventing rugged technologies that can uplift everybody to our level of civilization.
And inviting a few dozen people over here destroys that capacity and dooms the whole human race.
It's the worst thing you could do.
So if I were God Emperor of North America, number one thing, secure the borders.
We are not helping the people of Mexico by allowing Mexico.
We are not helping Mexicans.
We are not helping Mexico.
We are not helping.
We are, and in the long run, we are definitely harming them by allowing this rampant immigration.
And he could have easily put a halt to that by simply making it illegal to send money to coyotes, which would be very easy to do and very hard for the left to protest because coyotes are fucking predators.
He didn't do that.
He built three miles of wall.
He did a lot.
He did a lot.
He was less awful than Biden.
Oh, he did a fucking lot.
He did a lot.
Do you remember when it was a dirty word to say I'm a nationalist?
Oh, nowadays he'll get you put in prison.
Well, no.
I think we did more than he did, honestly.
Like, he farted around, failed to do anything he promised to do.
Oh, what?
No, he delivered on basically all of his promises.
All of them.
He didn't build the wall.
He didn't put Hillary in prison.
He built a wall.
It would take eight years to build, and he built four years worth of building.
Did he use the Army Corps of Engineers to build it?
Because they were under his direct command.
He could have.
He failed quite plausibly.
You know what we were saying about the corporate language turning people into narcissists?
Yeah.
He, in a corporate sort of a way, you can't say he didn't do it.
No, no, I, well, I think he delivered basically on everything, other than putting Hillary in person, that was a big failure.
He definitely didn't do that.
I think he negotiated well with China, but that's all I'm going to give him.
Well, fuck.
And he didn't start new wars.
Those are the two I will give him.
He basically cornered China.
He cornered them.
And the Biden administration, he cornered it so well.
The Biden administration, the only thing they could do to help China was to lose the Afghan war.
Oh, by the way.
Yeah.
That's a huge part of this, is that China is taking over Afghanistan with all their rare earthworms.
No, if you look at it, like, he fucking fucked China so bad that the only thing the incoming Democratic administration could do, lose the war.
And they lost it so spectacularly that, like, that is brilliant.
That's fucking brilliant how they lost it.
I'm glad that we disagree on this.
Like, I'm really glad we have one thing we disagree on.
It definitely shows we're not in an echo chamber.
No.
I think it's masterful.
It's master.
Biden did come up with that.
The deep state came up with that.
Like, that's fucking masterful.
How they have made China great again while having extreme plausible deniability that they did it.
It's brilliant.
It's fucking brilliant.
And it's infuriating.
Yeah, but like, hats off.
Hats off to the deep state.
Okay, I'm not going to.
Hats off to those that get their ducks together.
Okay, well, we're at 2 hours and 45 minutes.
I think I'm going to, let's fire off the live stream.