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20210611 Rational Hypocrisy

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	Started right now, actually.
	But uh, we're gonna give people a few minutes since we're early.
	Yeah, how are you folks doing?
	You're not supposed to be here yet.
	Why are you early?
	That's rude.
	Oh, we need to fix the lighting, too.
	He's a really solid guy, right?
	But it's like just believes everything CBC says.
	Oh, clearly.
	Oh, where did I put the lighter?
	Right here.
	No marijuana cigarettes.
	My good lord, that stuff gets me stuck.
	You want this one?
	It's got a lot of THD.
	I'm like, no.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Give me the pussy joint.
	I thought you were going to roll with that again for number two the second time.
	Did you follow up on the comments that they like Stonerini?
	I haven't- you know what people are going to have to tell us today?
	Yeah.
	Stone Arena.
	Was he awesome or annoying?
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	It's funny you want to talk about philosophy now.
	Now that you're not high.
	Yeah, I know.
	That would have been the good time to talk about it.
	Let's reboot this tablet.
	Yeah.
	Are we on now?
	Are people listening?
	Yeah, we're on right now.
	Okay.
	We're kind of just starting a little bit early.
	I remember when I was taking my philosophy degree, the thing that I hated the most was, you got a philosophy degree?
	Do you smoke a lot of weed?
	Like, no, and fuck you.
	I hated that, man.
	I'm into deep philosophy.
	It's LSD and DMT around here.
	Yeah, it's not like, oh, what if we're all just energy?
	Like, no, that's not philosophy.
	I mean, it just kind of technically isn't.
	What do you think energy is?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	What do you think of vibrations?
	Like, oh.
	Have you studied that branch of natural philosophy, asshole?
	Yeah.
	Oh, goodness.
	It drives me up the wall.
	Yeah.
	You're not using those words right.
	You keep using that word.
	I don't think it means what you think it means.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess you could say technically is, but it's not really.
	I mean, or at least it's like.
	Listen, if you've seen it.
	It's not even philosophy 101.
	It's philosophy whatever it is.
	Kindergarten.
	001.
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	So let's get D-Live sorted out.
	I'm here with Big L. Do you want to kill the music?
	Mm-hmm.
	Actually, wait, we could just keep the music where it is.
	Yeah.
	What do you guys think?
	Is music distracting?
	Is it good?
	Wasn't gonna wear this outfit, but I need to do laundry.
	And the machine takes coins.
	Who the hell has coins these days?
	I always have to remember to get them.
	Oh, Public Rock likes Stone Dorini.
	Yeah.
	It'll do that more often.
	Let's see.
	It's all I messages from last time.
	We got four viewers so far.
	So maybe shoot the shit a little bit more.
	Yeah.
	So how about those politics?
	Yep.
	They're going.
	Lots of them out there.
	Yep.
	I hear one team beat the other team.
	Yeah.
	That surely means something important for the people.
	Yeah.
	Z-Man had this comment that Biden is such a bore that there's no politics to talk about.
	Yeah.
	And he's largely right.
	Like, there's nothing happening.
	It's just like Biden licking an ice cream cone.
	You know, saying, glad your father's dead in war.
	Have a nice long weekend.
	Yeah.
	Stay frosty, ponyboy.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	And like, that's that even really something to get outraged over.
	Sorry, I got it wrong.
	Stay Frosty Pony Soldier.
	I mean, it's like, yeah, it's sort of distress.
	Nobody even knows what Memorial Day is.
	Yeah, well, we don't.
	We actually take Remembrance Day pretty seriously in Canada, I think.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Well, I mean, they were trying to get the gay poppy out there, but that was kind of dead in the water.
	Oh, yeah, that got slammed pretty hard.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the rainbow poppy.
	Rainbow Pappy for all the gay soldiers.
	Pretty sure the gay soldiers don't want a rainbow poppy.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen the latest fl the latest LGBTQP flag that they have?
	Oh, it's awful.
	Like, now the rainbow flag is awful because it has six colors instead of seven.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	The seven-colored rainbow is a symbol.
	I thought it's an ancient symbol.
	Lucky number seven.
	Lots of meaning to that.
	Well, six is the number of the star of David and of Satan.
	Right?
	And so they chose six colors for the gay pride flag.
	That's not insignificant.
	But at least it's looks like a lifesaver, you know?
	Yep.
	It's not a great flag, but it's not an awful flag either.
	Yeah, can they add a couple more?
	They added a triangle where they put the Tranner, what is that?
	Like blue, white, pink, white, blue.
	Okay.
	And then brown, black.
	Yeah.
	And it's just, it's the most awful cacophony of colors you ever saw.
	Yeah, cacaphania colors.
	I like it.
	Cacaphania colors.
	Yeah.
	That's the new LGBTQP flag that they're flying.
	P is for ponyboy, pony soldiers?
	No, that's for.
	Wait, you know what the P is for, right?
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah.
	They're one of the original groups that just, like, quietly retired temporarily.
	Eun Key says, hi!
	Oh, Pubble Frog says, did not get to see Stoned Arena.
	I'm just assuming I would.
	Well, not tonight.
	Not tonight.
	am not stoned tonight.
	We got 12 viewers.
	I think we can launch into the stream.
	So, folks, glad to have all of you here.
	I love each and every one of you.
	May I say, this is the best-looking livestream audience I've ever seen.
	I'm here with my friend Big L.
	And kind of the topic of the stream is going to be consistency or common sense.
	Like when it comes to politics, do you want to be Mr. Consistent or do you want to be wise?
	And, you know, integrity is all great and everything, but if it doesn't get you anywhere, what good is it?
	I'll tell you.
	I'll tell you how I got thinking about all of this.
	Libertarianism.
	So when I was a much younger arena, I used to be a big libertarian.
	Right?
	Get off my lawn.
	Still smoking, though.
	And drinking.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Day Arena, yeah.
	That's what got me into libertarianism was smoking and drinking.
	Mm-hmm.
	Don't step on snack.
	No step on snack.
	But then, you know, I kind of grew up a little bit.
	And there's that.
	John C. Wright had the argument that libertarianism is great for Christian bachelors during peacetime.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't really work for anybody else.
	Who said this?
	John C. Wright.
	Okay.
	It's an interesting quote.
	But he didn't put it that pithily, but that was his article.
	And I made up the quote after reading that article.
	He really nailed it.
	True.
	Christian Bachelors in peacetime.
	First of all, you need to high trust society, which you only get with Christianity.
	It's great for bachelors.
	Not so great if you're a family man.
	For instance, Big L, you probably have a slightly different opinion about the porn theater opening across the street than I might have.
	Hypothetically.
	Yeah, hypothetically.
	I mean, like, abstractly, I'd agree with you, but I wouldn't really care that much because I'd have a little kitty running around the backyard.
	Yeah.
	And peacetime.
	Because when you're at war, we can't have a vote on every goddamn thing out there.
	Yep.
	So then it came around to, you know, conservatism.
	Yep.
	You know, a sane, rational, responsible type of government that promotes moral virtue.
	I still am a Catholic monarchist.
	But, you know, good luck, we're not going to see that anytime soon.
	So that's neither here nor there.
	But after the past year, you know what?
	I'm just back to libertarianism again.
	Yeah.
	Fuck you, get off my lawn.
	Yep.
	Leave me alone.
	I want all the booze and the drugs and the guns.
	And, you know, if you don't like it, get off my lawn.
	Yep.
	That's my, those are my political beliefs.
	Get off my lawn.
	Yep.
	Yeah, well, to interject, I'd say that the problem of libertarianism is it's a problem of sovereignty, right?
	And who is the sovereign, you know?
	And with libertarianism, they want the individual to be sovereign, but then they have a problem of who's an individual.
	Like, when you're 18, you magically become a sovereign.
	Well, the way I figure it is, I'm an individual.
	Anybody I like is an individual.
	Everybody else can fuck right off.
	That's my libertarian flag.
	Don't step on Snack.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I read a lot of Rothbard years ago, and I remember him talking so much about how you could be a sovereign citizen as a minor.
	I was like, yeah, can you.
	Well, we know where that leads.
	That leads to the multicolored flag territory, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And as a new father, I like to make jokes about how fatherhood, parenthood, is all about taking care of a severely drunk person while they slowly over 18 years, more like 21 years.
	25.
	25 years.
	Slowly becoming sober.
	Maybe by the time they hit 45.
	Yeah.
	Oh, thank God they're sober.
	I can die finally.
	Yeah, and I love how the drinking age is basically the age that the country deems that you're sober enough you can get drunk.
	You're sober enough.
	That's what we get drunk.
	We get drunk, yeah.
	And then if you get drunk enough, you basically act like a petulant little toddler that shits and jukes himself.
	Kicks your friend out for buying a cyber truck.
	Not even buying for saying, okay, I want to buy a cyber truck.
	Get out!
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	Z-Man is just wonderful when he goes off on the libertarians.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	On the off chance Z-Man is catching us.
	Don't stop going off on libertarians.
	We all love it.
	We know it's just you beating the crap out of that dead waterlogged fucking horse one more time, but it's glorious when you do it.
	We love watching it.
	And he was pointing out the latest libertarian stupidity.
	Yep.
	The latest libertarian stupidity was Texas is being oppressive to small businesses by not allowing them to have a vaccine passport if they so choose.
	I wish I could talk to my just five years ago back, go talk to your five years ago self about what's going to happen.
	This is blowing blowing minds, you know?
	I am no longer trying to be ideologically consistent with anything.
	See, the point Z-Man makes is the libertarians are always ideologically consistent in supporting the left.
	Whenever the left, if the left wants legalized prostitution, well, it's sex work and you own your own body.
	Yeah.
	If they want a vaccine passport, well, small businesses should have the right to choose.
	people want government tyranny they should be able to choose yeah and he was making this this argument that like could you guys at least have balls and say that if you want like this argument that you're making the argument that you should be able to pick and choose who comes into your business Who you do business with.
	Which is illegal in Western nations.
	Yeah.
	You are forced to get along with everybody.
	Yeah, and I mean, and I think I would agree with that.
	you can pick and choose who you want to do business with but but if preventing businesses from doing this to prevent a vaccine passport what I mean like I'm all for it I'm a hypocrite.
	I'm all for it.
	Well, I mean, let's go back up a bit about the hypocrisy thing.
	Like, haven't governments been telling businesses that they have to shut down?
	So now that, you know, basically have to discriminate against everybody, no one can have, you know, I can do business with no one.
	And now that Texas is saying, oh, I want to do business with certain people.
	See, Z-Man was making the point that this is, we're talking about racial discrimination.
	And, again, me being old-school libertarian, I point out your freedom to choose whom you associate with is a pretty foundational freedom as far as I'm concerned.
	Now, that being said, I've also said that the foundational quality of money is it doesn't matter who's holding it.
	The only color that matters with money is green.
	And if you can have your bank account shut down because you don't say the things you're supposed to say, well, that money is beginning to fade.
	It's more of a light green at this point.
	Maybe we need a new currency.
	One that doesn't discriminate because a dollar is a dollar is a dollar.
	It reminds me of a restaurant I went to here in Calgary and it said we serve everyone, LGBTQ+, all that, and it's like...
	What about straight people?
	Well, I mean, of course it's assumed.
	But basically, they're basically saying all money is green.
	They're not saying it in evil capitalistic terms.
	Ooh, they're like, ooh, praise us because we serve everyone.
	As if there's businesses out there that don't serve people because they're gay.
	Yeah, which is illegal.
	Now, first of all, we're going to talk about stupid principles, okay?
	And we're not talking about morals.
	We're talking about, like, I don't know what the hell a moral is.
	Yeah.
	I don't trust morals.
	Lots of people running around with ideas in their head about how you should be living their life and the right thing to do.
	And I don't trust those things, man.
	Yeah.
	I don't like them.
	It's like I...
	Ass- five assholes!
	You'll have five different opinions on what morals are.
	And the number one thing that's caused me problems in life is not evil people, it's stupid people.
	Yeah.
	So.
	So I'm going to talk about smart stupid as opposed to good evil.
	Because I don't know what the hell good and evil are.
	Well, I always think of morals versus ethics as morals or value-based, which can have a subjective component, or at least can be thought of subjectively, and ethics are more in line of consistent treatment.
	Oh, yeah, you got professional ethics.
	See, it makes good, the idea of discriminating against your customers based upon something relatively arbitrary like race is a very stupid idea.
	If somebody has green dollars and they want to buy your product, generally speaking, you should let them in.
	It reminds me of the, to interject again, the your money has no value here.
	Completely, the meaning completely changes on how you say it.
	Your money's no good here.
	Get out!
	Yeah, your money's not good here.
	Take this.
	But as much as, first of all, I think it's stupid to refuse business.
	Number two, I'd say it's rude.
	I don't like you type of people.
	I don't want your business.
	It's rude.
	That's a very rude thing to do.
	You shouldn't be rude to people.
	I don't know if that's evil.
	Some people tell you that's evil.
	Discriminating is evil.
	I don't know if it's evil.
	Remember the business?
	It's rude.
	I will say it's rude.
	Yeah.
	But I think you should have the right to.
	Yeah.
	Remember the bake the cake thing?
	Well, and this is where I'm going with it.
	Yeah, where it began with bake the cake.
	The reason.
	Bake the cake, bigot.
	The reason I think you should have the right to discriminate is because if you don't, it, well, bake the cake bigot isn't even the worst case.
	But yeah, I just want to point out, I don't know if you know this or if it's old news, but there was a difference between they did not discriminate against gay customers.
	They just didn't want to build a specific product that wasn't on the list for that customer.
	It would be like going into a restaurant and telling a restaurant and be like, I want Chinese food.
	What?
	You discriminate against Chinese people?
	Fuck you, bigot.
	Well, let's put it this way.
	If you need to pass a law saying you can't discriminate, now again, I think it's a bad business practice, and if you discriminate, you'll go out of business.
	If you don't hire the top people, you won't have the top people.
	If you only pay women 70 cents on the dollar, then guess what?
	All the really smart, talented women are going to go to the other company that hires them, and they're going to out-compete you.
	So I think that most likely smart, stupid, doing that is stupid.
	Discrimination is stupid, and it's going to ruin your business, and the market will prevail.
	Now, that said, if we're passing a law saying you can't discriminate in your business, that implies either it's a completely pointless law since nobody is discriminating, so why do you even bother legislating it?
	Yeah.
	Or there's a small market segment that is choosing to discriminate.
	That market segment is going to continue discriminating even after you pass the law.
	They just won't admit why.
	Which leads to the next problem.
	The next problem being that if you've made discrimination illegal, but there's still discrimination happening everywhere, what's the next step?
	Quotas.
	So now we have government shoving their nose into your business.
	Why don't you have more Asian people working at your mathematics factory?
	What's going on there, bigot?
	Yeah.
	And then positive and negative discrimination have the same effect of not knowing why you're hired for why you're hired.
	It screws up the whole market.
	It destroys meritocracy, right?
	It destroys meritocracy.
	So I am.
	I'm positive or negative, right?
	I don't.
	Because I mean, I don't think you're a big fan of Thomas Sewell, but.
	No, he's a good guy.
	Okay, good.
	Well, one of the things that I really liked that he said was he's really proud of his Harvard degree because he got it when he got it.
	And if he got it 20 years later, it wouldn't mean as much.
	Not because the education is degraded, which probably has, but because he wouldn't know if he got it on his merit or not, right?
	Which, yeah, these days?
	The only way you got your Harvard degree on merit.
	Actually, no, you don't get a Harvard degree.
	Nobody does.
	But the closest.
	There's merit involved.
	It's just that there's, you know, there's a curve for quotas, right?
	So.
	Well, you get your Harvard degree because you're related to somebody.
	Well, anyone who gets a Harvard degree.
	No, anyone who gets a Harvard degree is not dumb, but the quality of smart to extremely smart, like, you don't know.
	Yeah.
	You know, they're probably plus 100 IQ.
	Oh, and that's it.
	I was going to say like 110, 120.
	I wouldn't say that, no.
	All right.
	I would say you're plus 100.
	You're above 100.
	You're more cynical than me about that.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, the whole point I'm trying to get to is that I'm being a complete hypocrite.
	On the one hand, I completely endorse your freedom of association.
	Your freedom to choose who you should hire, your freedom to choose who you do business with, ad nauseum.
	Because the opposite is hiring quotas, which destroys meritocracy, destroys business.
	It just prevents you from speaking the truth.
	Right?
	You get a world of lies at that point.
	So on the one hand, I'm completely for freedom of association until we get to vaccine passports.
	Fuck you!
	No vaccine passport for you, business.
	And I'm a complete, unprincipled hypocrite right there.
	Because that's the only sane way to live.
	One of the rules for radicals from Saul Alinsky is hold them to their own standards.
	Yep.
	And okay, Kant.
	Kant argued that you should live your life in such a way that if everybody else lived it, you would have a moral and consistent world.
	Yeah.
	And I like, that seems, that strikes me as a very European idea.
	Enlightenment, your opinion, too.
	And it works very well.
	Specifically, you're in a time period, yeah.
	It works very well amongst other enlightened Europeans that are all playing the same game.
	Doesn't work so well when other people are playing Calvin Ball.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I never liked Kant.
	I never liked that bucker.
	Fuck that guy.
	Yeah.
	Didn't dislike him, but I never liked him.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the trap that the right keeps finding itself in is trying to have a bunch of consistent standards.
	Yep.
	And then the enemy's not playing by consistent standards.
	No.
	All it does is it limits your ability to respond.
	Ergo, my absolutely hypocritical position, that I want maximum libertarianism for myself.
	And for other people, I think they need to be crushed under the boot of government.
	For their own good.
	Fuck them.
	Yeah.
	I mean, don't forget, like, half, you know, gentle as doves, yes, but wise as serpents.
	Yep.
	If nobody else is playing by the rules, how the hell are you supposed to play by the rules?
	I don't know.
	And this is the.
	Could be a martyr.
	Oh, yeah, you could be a martyr.
	Yeah.
	No one wants to be a martyr?
	No.
	Is there anything good to be a martyr for right now?
	Everyone's just going to call you an asshole.
	Well, you know, that's what being a martyr is.
	christian murder anyway wait i think i listen if they were throwing me into it the lions that'd be something Yeah.
	Just take the jab.
	Just take the job.
	Take the jab.
	It has spike proteins.
	It's got what plants crave.
	Yeah.
	Hasn't Trudeau done like a rap video about taking the jab yet?
	I don't know if you're joking or not.
	I am joking, but I think he did something equally propagandistic.
	But I never clicked on the link because I don't click on it anymore.
	I'm like, I don't fucking care.
	But it wouldn't surprise me.
	He should.
	He should go blackface and do a nice rap video.
	Oh, yeah.
	Blackface would be a rap.
	I think we're at that level of politics, so why not?
	You think that anyone left would bat an eye?
	They'd be like, okay.
	he's cool you know you have to listen there are there are limits on your actions Right?
	Like, the smart limit on your action is don't create blowback.
	Right?
	Don't do something so punitive and negative that it creates a backlash against you.
	Again, that's a smart evil dynamic.
	Or the smart stupid.
	Don't be stupid.
	Right?
	But aside from that, advocate for what's good for you.
	Yeah.
	That's what everybody else is doing, and they don't care.
	Again, we have the Muslims that are all voting Democrat.
	Yeah.
	And they're voting for tranny kids.
	Which, if it's their kids, they'd flip out, but they don't care if it's white kids turning into trannies.
	Good old trannies.
	No, and so, like, we need to be the same way.
	Stop trying to have consistent standards.
	Like, having that.
	I'm not even sure if there is a legitimate set of rules that is the perfect operating system for humanity.
	Well, I mean, and I don't think you're arguing against consistency.
	You are, but you, uh, you're arguing against deontology, right?
	Go on.
	And deontology is basically the logical view of morality, right?
	Deontology comes from.
	Oh my god, how am I forgetting this?
	There's two.
	Don't assume that you have morality wrapped up in a nice little bag.
	Like you've figured it out.
	yeah because as soon as you think you've got all you're doing when you say this is my morality is you are broadcasting to your enemies what you're going to do and how they can yank on your strings Okay.
	I remembered the very basic thing that I am shocked that I forgot.
	I'll blame the wish.
	Shocked, I tell you.
	Oh, man, this guy.
	Yeah.
	This guy.
	See, back when I was a young man, they were opening up a philosophy factory in Halifax.
	Yeah.
	And so he went to get his philosophy degree, but then they shipped the jobs over to India by the time he graduated.
	Yeah, so in logic, you've got induction and deduction, right?
	And you know the difference.
	Yes.
	I read it like 20 times.
	I always forget it.
	It's been a while, right?
	Induction is like going this way and deduction is going this way.
	Yeah, that's.
	If you're really both ways, my friend.
	The finger pointing, yeah.
	Induction is basically, you know, I have an observation followed by where there's a cause followed by effect every day.
	Therefore, the cause is the cause of the effect.
	Deduction goes the other way where it's like, you know, all A are B, this thing is an A, therefore it's a B. You're doing a logical deduction, right?
	Yeah.
	Does that make any sense at all?
	Man, I.
	It should make more sense.
	Like, I've read it 30 times.
	All animals are mortal.
	Socrates is an animal.
	Therefore, Socrates.
	Yeah, therefore, Socrates is mortal, right?
	Yeah.
	So that is a deductive argument.
	Okay, what's inductive against?
	Inductive is, you know, the sun rises every day.
	Wow.
	It's funny because I can only think of like the problem of induction, right?
	Which is the sun rises.
	It's always risen in the past, so it's going to rise tomorrow.
	Well, yeah, the rooster crows, and then the sun rises.
	Therefore, the rooster causes the sun to rise, right?
	That's the problem of induction.
	Except how do we know?
	99% of our reasoning is inductive.
	It's inductive, yeah, yeah.
	It's nice if we can put it into deductive, because then we're certain.
	Yes.
	Well, that's the problem, is that with deductive reasoning is like, well, you're creating a logical constant, and then you're inferring from that logical constant, right?
	Which is where Kant is getting his morality from, or his ethics.
	He's like, I should behave like this.
	This is a situation like that.
	Therefore, I should behave like this, right?
	Well, it's like, so you've already created your logical construct, and you're fitting reality into that.
	When was Kant living?
	Oh, fuck.
	Because Shakespeare wrote a play about it.
	Oh, he's definitely more recent than Shakespeare.
	Yeah, I thought I like 90%.
	Oh, boy.
	It's German idealism, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You can always tell German idealism a mile away.
	Like early German idealism.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, before Hegel.
	Well, actually, I need to refresh on everything that I've learned in the past.
	I'm at that age.
	Why bother teaching anyone anything?
	No.
	Yeah.
	So, but yeah.
	You know, so you see Hegel.
	So we start with Kant, we get to Hegel, then we get to Marx.
	Yeah.
	That's where this idealism leads.
	There's just some giant leaps there, but yeah, okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, like, Marxism is completely based on.
	Hegel, that's not a giant leap, but to Kant to Hegel is a big leap.
	They're very different.
	Yeah.
	But they've both got that German idealism.
	Right?
	They both have this post-Catholic faith in the right order of the universe becoming manifest.
	Yeah.
	And so Kant is trying to figure out the perfect morality and write it down.
	And Hegel is writing about the natural progression of society towards truth.
	Okay, yeah.
	And then you get Marx.
	It's like, oh, that's what you guys are up to.
	Let's flip that upside down so it serves my agenda.
	Which is what I'm saying with...
	But there's a huge...
	I see a big gulf between Kant and Hegel though because Kant is talking about...
	You see, it's so logical, right?
	And logic is aside from that.
	Logic is a whore.
	she'll give it no logic is that anything of reason Logic.
	Logic is constant and internal outside of time, right?
	And then Hegel is talking about this internal logic of reality that is in time working itself towards perfection.
	So there's a giant, I see a giant leap between Kant and Hegel.
	Yeah.
	Even though I don't like them either, I especially don't like Hegel.
	Kant.
	Kant's like half-cool.
	Yeah.
	Hagel's just shit and then Mark says he's hardcore, but his mom won't let him and And then Marx is just like the shitty Hegel to the intense shit degree.
	Yeah, it's Hegelism, but worse.
	Isn't that BreadTube?
	Just like toxic breakdowns of things.
	God, BreadTube, they're talking about the stupid housing situation right now.
	And it's like, listen, your only problem with the housing situation is the houses are more expensive than you want now that you guys made a million dollars.
	As proletarian, working class people, right?
	And then you apply all your reason and logic to find out why society is fundamentally wrong because you're not getting the cheap houses you want.
	Yeah.
	I would, uh, when I think of Kant, I think of the, uh, the prohibition on lying and how he says that, oh, how does it go?
	Well, actually, in this respect, I like Kant, but he's consistent.
	When he's talking about, you know, the Nazi's at your door and you're harboring a Jew, do you tell the Nazi that you're harboring a Jew?
	Yeah.
	Yes, you should.
	Yes, you should.
	Right?
	And people don't like him for that.
	But I actually like him for being consistent on that.
	And.
	Yeah.
	But ultimately, well, that perfectly illustrates the problem.
	Yeah.
	You're communicating to your enemies what you're going to do.
	And so I was saying there's a Shakespeare play about this, Titus Andronicus.
	And Titus Andronicus, it's this play about this Roman general who is absolutely honorable and follows the laws of the Roman Empire.
	And even though the emperor, he died and his son is a piece of shit, sleeping with the Celtic whore, consulting with Moors, it's like, I will continue to do my duty.
	And they're just sitting around the Imperial Palace laughing at him as they rip his entire family, rip his estate apart.
	Because they know he's always going to do the honorable thing.
	Yeah.
	Until the end, when he doesn't.
	And he does do the honorable thing.
	Which is chop up both her sons, put them in a pie, and feed them to the Celtic bitch.
	I don't know if that sounds honorable, but.
	It is when you're dealing with corrupt politicians.
	But I was going to say, Boethius is one of my favorite philosophers, even though he's such a minor philosopher, very minor philosopher.
	And he's got one line in his one of his books that I've forgotten.
	Man, I'm forgetting everything today.
	Not drinking.
	The consolation of philosophy.
	Yeah.
	He says, falling shows a man stood insecure.
	And it's talking about how you can go wrong.
	I gotta take a leak.
	Alright, I'm gonna go.
	I'm incoherent.
	I gotta take a leak.
	Yep.
	I need to drink more.
	I need to drink more.
	Or less.
	One or the other.
	We just started.
	Let's see.
	Let's check the comments.
	What's up, Davis?
	What are your thoughts on the notion that capitalism and communism are two sides of the same coin?
	You know, actually, I pointed that out quite some time ago.
	Probably not the only one to do so, but they are both, both communism and capitalism focus entirely upon GDP.
	Right?
	Upon material production and success.
	That's all that either of them care about.
	And so they have completely opposite methods of going about it.
	But yeah, they completely miss everything else that's going on with man.
	You know, that a man does not live on bread alone.
	So yeah, capitalism, at least in the immediate short term, certainly makes a lot more bread than communism does.
	But both systems are ultimately destructive to the things that really make us human.
	Oh, did I read Fox Day?
	Yeah, yeah, Vox Day is posting.
	Yeah, the COVID vaccine might give you a heart attack in five years.
	Yeah, I read that.
	Guys, the COVID vaccine is a stupid test.
	Don't fail the stupid test.
	libertarians seem to side of the left more than they side of the right and it's see it's it's here's the thing like Again, reason's a whore.
	It gives everyone a ride.
	You can use reason to arrive at any point you want.
	Like, you can use reason to argue that freedom of association is the most important thing, or that we must not allow that because we'd have COVID vaccines.
	Both very strong arguments.
	And if you lock yourself into one or the other, then the tyrants are going to use it against you.
	If you say, I support freedom of association, then I guess you support COVID passports.
	I am opposed to freedom of association.
	You shouldn't be able to choose who you do business with.
	Well, enjoy your diverse workforce.
	Right?
	You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
	Dead side wind tails, you lose.
	If you lock yourself in to one deontological system of moral reasoning, guess what?
	The devil's smarter than you.
	Do you ever read the space trilogy by C.S. Lewis?
	No.
	So the protagonist, who's just a man, sits there and argues and argues and argues and argues and argues to the devil.
	And guess who's better at arguing?
	It's the devil.
	so after spending weeks trying to argue with the devil about why doing good is good and doing evil is evil yeah the protagonist says enough of this and he bops the devil in the nose and that's that's like the if you lock yourself into reasoning you're stuck on the battlefield of reason And if they're not adhering to the principles that they claim to eschew, then they win.
	And that's what, I mean, that's what Reason Magazine does.
	Just spins its tail.
	Oh my God, Reason is so bad.
	And it was good.
	It was good like five years ago, I thought.
	And it's the worst now.
	I was just chuckling to myself in the bathroom about how trying to explain Boethius saying that falling shows a man stood insecure and then choking on that is like the irony of it.
	That is pretty ironic.
	How do your words taste, my friend?
	I wasn't ready to explain it clearly.
	I thought I was, but I showed that I was standing in an insecure position.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but yeah, thinking about, you know, a lie is never right.
	It's always the ideal, but you fail to make the ideal.
	And it's always a failure, but sometimes it's the best you can do.
	Right?
	If, you know, if you're actually trying to be truthful, you're trying to do the right thing.
	You know?
	So, I mean, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it.
	It's not going to come to Kant, but, you know, you had lied to the officer, knowing it's a sin, but knowing you can't do better.
	You know, knowing the consequences can't be, you know, okay, I'm going to have to sin here.
	Because I don't know what else to do.
	Anyway.
	I don't know if that made any sense.
	I don't know how insecure my standing is.
	No, no, that's um trying to be too idealistic, just you trip on your own ideals.
	Yeah.
	Well, which is why I never liked deontology.
	I'm a virtue ethicist, right?
	When it comes to my philosophy of ethics.
	And virtue ethics.
	That's what it says in my arrest report.
	Virtue ethicist?
	Oh, no.
	Not a deontologist.
	Yeah, well, the deontologist, you know, basically there is a universal realm out there where you can basically create a program for being good to simplify it down to a point where I'm sure deontologists would be yelling at me, but I would describe it that way.
	And then you've got utilitarianism, right?
	Which is basically...
	It's the equal opposite stupidity.
	I would say so.
	Like, deontology is the idea that we can, it's like trying to complete, uh, it's trying to like, it's trying to create a complete system of mathematics which we can prove true at the same time.
	Yeah.
	which is demonstrably impossible.
	Yeah, Virtue Ethics is, I think I can boil that down.
	Oh wait, let me do the other one.
	Let me do the other thing.
	Utilitarianism is we can create the perfect system to maximize goodness.
	Just don't ask what goodness is.
	So that they're equally opposite.
	I know we talked about this before, but I love the very deriv pejorative way of talking about utilitarianism.
	One of my professors said it was the hedonistic calculus, right?
	What is the good but pleasure?
	And what basically you have to prepare.
	Have you seen the world shit that 20-year-olds are into?
	Yeah, exactly, right?
	I was taking my belt to her.
	I mean, she seems to like it, you know?
	I don't get it.
	Like, we're kind of screwing with the hedons at that point.
	I love that idea of the hedonistic calculus because that's what it comes down to.
	It's like the good has to be pleasure.
	And then you have to do calculus to do the pleasure, which is usually unpleasurable.
	You know, you've got these egg-headed scientists doing some heavy calculus to figure out what creates the most hedons for the most amount of people.
	The best thing created by utilitarianism was a really terrible science fiction story about torturing one kid to death every year to make everyone happy.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, feminist science fiction.
	Like, that's the best thing to come out of utilitarianism.
	Yeah, at least they, in my mind, did a good job of critiquing you to tilt areas in the net.
	But yeah, Virtue Ethics is, you know, the, the, yeah.
	An extinct animal has no moral behavior.
	So when choosing paths of behavior, typically that which increases your probability of surviving is going to be more virtuous because you will be there to continue to be virtuous, with principal exceptions.
	Virtue ethics is that nice middle ground between utilitarian, what actually works, and deontology, what is actually good.
	The old middle ground, the golden mean.
	Happy middle ground!
	just like Tim Pool.
	Well, um, uh, yeah, it's me, I don't.
	Another reason why I love virtue ethics.
	I can explain it so easily, right?
	Easily, but extremely complexly, if you think about it, right?
	Is that Aristotle said a virtue is doing the right thing at the right time for the right reasons in the right way.
	Now, to check those four things is extremely difficult.
	Oh, good lord.
	Right.
	But it's also, you know, it's time sensitive.
	You have to do it for the right reasons.
	So you have to be the right kind of person to do it in the right way, so you have to have a skill for doing it.
	And I'm forgetting the fourth thing.
	But we'll just roll with it.
	Oh, doing the right thing.
	So knowing.
	You have to know what the right thing is.
	So there's knowledge, skills, timing, and the other thing I forgot.
	Probably doesn't matter that much.
	Whatever.
	What are you rolling with?
	Three out of four is a CSF.
	A CSFP.
	Yeah, that's one thing I've been reflecting a lot on lately.
	And you're right.
	This is where I'm coming at the whole thing from.
	And then with virtues, the different virtues fit different situations, right?
	There's a time going back.
	What was it?
	Oh, Frank.
	See, I forget everything these days.
	What is the everything has a seasons in the Bible?
	What is that?
	Like, I can remember it now.
	It's still in the punchline.
	I can't remember the joke.
	Everything has a season.
	But, you know, sometimes you should be brave and sometimes you should be level-headed.
	Time and a place for everything.
	Everything has a season.
	Yes.
	Yeah, whatever.
	We forget everything.
	This is the podcast of forgetting.
	This is the old man podcast.
	Yeah, Ecclesiastes, I think.
	Is it Ecclesiastes?
	No, it's not.
	It's songs?
	Psalms?
	Anyway.
	You know, it's in the first half, I think.
	Oh, yeah, it is.
	Definitely.
	It's in the first half, for sure.
	Now I have a child, I'm comfortable with being an old man and just forgetting half the thing.
	Being like, well, the point is, do you have a study to prove that?
	Shit, I don't...
	No, no...
	I've never read a study in my life.
	Zero citations.
	This will be the new podcast.
	Oh, that's good, man.
	Zero citations.
	Your new blog should be named Zero Citations.
	Yeah, okay.
	That's pretty good, yeah.
	Why the hell do you need citations for shit?
	Christ.
	Well, I would say, I mean, dumb is like, oh, because peer-reviewed experts, like, no, because you want to continue the conversation with the past with people that are dead, but were fucking brilliant.
	So you want to honor them and you want to make like a sense.
	If you would like to know more, follow the citation.
	That's the fucking point of the citation.
	If I were to say in discussing Trudeau that the tyrant is always friends with the foreigner.
	Aristotle.
	And then LinkedIn.
	He didn't say it that pithily.
	Yeah.
	But he did say exactly that in the correct context.
	Right?
	That a tyrant, somebody that wants to impose the law without serving their people, they love inviting in foreigners because the foreigners just want access to the treasury.
	Foreigners don't give a shit what happens to the country in 20 years.
	They're just a foreigner.
	And you certainly see that with Trudeau.
	You know, that's where you put a citation.
	It's like, oh, here's where I'm paraphrasing it from.
	Yeah.
	So you can see that I'm not taking it out of context.
	But no, the modern citation is...
	Is there a study?
	Yeah.
	I just say not all foreigners, because I want to be a foreigner in America and help America.
	Oh, I mean, principal exception.
	He's not saying all foreigners are friends to the tyrant.
	He's saying that all tyrants are friends to foreigners.
	There you go.
	A, then B. Excellent.
	Yeah, B, excellent rebuttal.
	There you go.
	But I've grown very disillusioned with idealism.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	And deontology and utilitarianism are just too idealistic.
	They are so idealistic that they're completely useless and they lead to destruction.
	Whereas like, how do you be a good person?
	I don't know how you'd be a good person.
	How do you be a smart person?
	Yeah.
	That seems to be within grasp.
	Yeah.
	Let me go back to my favorite Homeric.
	Homeric quote.
	To be good is easy.
	To become good is difficult.
	How do you be a good person?
	It takes a lot of hard work.
	and no one can really tell you how to do it, or even edit.
	I find that question though.
	Yeah.
	How do I be a good person?
	Yeah.
	Can lead you down a lot of really stupid paths.
	Yeah.
	Whereas if you take, like, alright, when you're giving advice to a young kid, forget about the good thing or the right thing or the alpha male thing or the what?
	Whatever idealized crap you have.
	Yeah.
	Throw that out of your head.
	Yeah.
	What's the smart thing to do?
	Should I get into a massive argument with my parent who's going to pay for college?
	Yeah.
	Or should I shut my fucking mouth and let them pay for college?
	Yeah.
	The smart thing is rather easy to figure out.
	Yeah.
	The good thing.
	Well, you got arguments on both sides.
	Well, going back to the Homeric thing, I think there's something to Kiergaard talking about fear and loathing and how the Christian is always in fear and loathing.
	A good Christian is always in a state of fear and loathing.
	As fun as that sounds.
	I'm getting the fear, man.
	I say that image.
	But his point is like, okay, so there's this god out there, you know, that is perfect.
	And we're, the more you think about it, the more you're just a piece of shit monkey.
	And how hard it is to be good.
	That the best way to be good is to be in this constant state of doubt.
	You know, which is what I take fear and loathing to be, right?
	What is doubt but fear and loathing?
	Wait, you don't mean, okay, so not fear of God and loathing of your fellow man for failing to live up to him?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so that's how I took it.
	No, really?
	No, no, no, you're always fear, afraid of, fuck, I don't know.
	I'm just some idiot.
	I'm just some idiot on the internet.
	Just some asshole.
	Shit, I don't know.
	Got a philosophy degree right in the philosophy factory shutdown.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, man.
	I love that joke.
	I'm not trying to pick on you.
	I have a history degree for fuck's sake.
	They were making history bundles in Hamilton when I was getting it, but then they shipped that over to China.
	No, yeah, you know, fear.
	If you guys need a widget of history, like I'll make you a handcrafted history widget.
	I'm the best.
	Underwater basket history or something.
	Weaving.
	History basket weaving.
	Oh my god, the person that did the Indian basket weaving has a better degree than we do.
	Oh boy.
	Yeah.
	I was just thinking, it just brought up a memory of weaving in the idea of weaving together a truth in one of Plato's later dialogues.
	Simploke.
	I remember the Greek word, one of the few Greek words I remember, as useless as that is, but it was a big thing about weaving.
	And I was thinking about it, you know, how like all of our conclusions, it doesn't matter how fucking smart you are, all of our conclusions are weaving together evidence that are personal or scientific, but we're weaving together conclusions.
	And there's a certain creation into that, right?
	You're correct.
	Because I mean, no one has acknowledged what can ever be completely true.
	But you're still going to weave together something that's provisionally true.
	Anyway.
	Simploke.
	And the question is, do you have a truth that's useful that gets you anywhere?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or just have some dumb opinion like David Hogg.
	He went to Harvard, apparently.
	Oh, he's going to Harvard.
	Good for him.
	He bullied that kid into becoming a mass shooter.
	Now he's going to Harvard.
	He's going to be a great employee at Facebook.
	He's a hero.
	He is a hero for bullying a kid into becoming a mass shooter.
	Yeah.
	What a guy.
	Davis was turning into an aristocrat.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Doing my best.
	Good wishes.
	Yeah, I just need some property now.
	Got the sword, I got the hat, I need some property next.
	Yeah, and money.
	Yeah, money.
	Money will help me.
	I need old money, so I don't know how to give you that.
	Oh.
	Need new parents.
	That's the problem, man.
	I picked the wrong parents.
	Wow.
	Damn, that's on you.
	What's the topic about?
	Kula?
	Kula?
	Kula.
	I have no idea what you and Key means.
	Okay.
	Even the BP test is fraudulent.
	It's different in different countries.
	All of it is BS.
	Is that blood pressure?
	BP?
	Blood pressure?
	What does that mean?
	What?
	I don't know.
	I'm lost.
	No, modern science is a joke.
	I don't know.
	Good lord.
	People respond to incentives, man.
	And the whole.
	I was trying to explain this.
	It's like, I'm not saying that Western medicine isn't holistic, like that the Chinese can heal your chakras.
	I'm not saying something stupid like that.
	What I'm saying is the whole damn medical establishment, it's run by corporations that make billions and billions of dollars off of some treatments, while others are generic and there's no profit to be made.
	And it's mainly about treating the symptoms, not curing the disease.
	And you should really look at all of it.
	Look at it with a grain of salt, man.
	I'm not saying that, you know, go get acupuncture.
	I'm saying, you know, just follow the money.
	Follow the money.
	Is there money in healing people or is there money in giving people pills?
	Oh, here's a good question.
	I'm going to ask this one to you.
	What role do you think intuition plays in things?
	A very big role?
	Okay.
	Good answer.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	No, intuition is a big part of philosophy.
	I remember reading, I'm forgetting the philosopher talked about it, but he's like, okay, so we have hypotheses in sciences.
	Where do we get hypothesis from?
	It's the spark of the divine.
	Yeah.
	Well, we get it from intuition.
	You test your hypothesis, which are intuition.
	But I like this philosopher because he came up with a fancy word, abduction.
	It's not deduction, it's abduction.
	Ab basically means comes from nowhere, which is another way of saying intuition.
	but that doesn't sound cool in scientific or philosophical intuition so do you know Eliezer Yukowsky?
	Yeah.
	So huge, huge utilitarian, which I completely disagree with him on.
	But he had an article that I thought was great called The Arrogance of Einstein.
	So Einstein, after thinking and thinking, nah, fuck this.
	Relativity.
	Fuck all of this.
	Like, this massive scientific establishment that has all of these proofs and everything backing.
	Nah, stupid idea is true.
	Yeah.
	And the, like, if you just went probabilistically, what is the probability that a patent clerk is right about all of that?
	It's like, like, next to zero.
	Yeah.
	And so where did this arrogance come from that he could abduce something like relativity and say this is true?
	Yeah.
	And you're going to prove it in a few years when you test the speed of light.
	That is that's the abduction right there.
	Intuition is it's you get this with when you're working on an engine.
	Yeah.
	When you just like look at it and you're like, bang, you know exactly what the problem is.
	You do not actually have enough evidence to make a Bayesian inference.
	Yeah.
	You can maybe make like a 30% that's the problem, but no, you are 100% that you know what the problem is.
	Yeah.
	That reminds me of back in when I was in university and I've always been an intuitive person.
	And back then the whole feminist canard was females are just intuitive.
	Female intuition, remember that?
	See, women have social intuition.
	Well yeah, yeah.
	There's something about female intuition, but my joke was always like whenever they would I would intuit something that they were thinking but didn't want to say I would just say oh it's male intuition.
	That's how I arrived there.
	What's that?
	Remember that old kids in the hall sketch?
	I ascertained.
	I ascertained.
	I just, sir, I think you're underestimating my ascertaination.
	Yes.
	Joe!
	You guys are having a problem with the language you're using in the shop.
	Well I ascertain that I don't swear as much as Bill or Jimmy does.
	I ascertain that I'm using less swear words than most people.
	I want our audience to bring that into daily lives though.
	If they intuit something and someone asks how they know that, just say male intuition.
	Male intuition.
	Honestly?
	I'm going to use that.
	I don't know.
	Do you have any idea?
	Yeah.
	So my mother is, I mentioned before, she's got a farm.
	And so she's getting involved in a lot of the sort of stuff I've been involved in in a long time.
	But she hasn't.
	But she's now seeing the utility of some of it.
	She's getting involved in some of it.
	And yet she's like a, you know, like a baby learned to walk.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Sometimes she asks me, it's like, how do you know that thing?
	I'm like, male intuition.
	Yeah.
	Male intuition.
	It's like, just get that thing out of here.
	I'm just going to crank the egg.
	Yeah.
	Crank the egg.
	Just crank the egg.
	How do you know that, male intuition?
	Trust me.
	Hold my beer.
	Watch this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	So here's.
	Shit.
	So we were, I took out as many grand squirrels as I could with the crossbow.
	crossbows and here's guys you need to know this all right Because I found out the hard way.
	Luckily, nobody got hurt, but there's now a crossbow bolt in one of the fence posts at my mother's place.
	They bounce.
	If you are shooting at a low angle, they bounce off the ground and keep going.
	A bullet just goes straight into the ground, you're safe.
	Not a crossbow bolt.
	So I took care of as many of the ground squirrels as I could from the balcony.
	Like I only had about a 180 field of view, maybe 200 field of view from there.
	I have still some more ground squirrels.
	And I can't use the crossbow because it's going to go into the neighbor's field and who knows where it's going to go.
	Shoot, something that'll go right through the little sucker.
	Disappears into the wilderness.
	So we're trying out the pellet gun.
	Her nephews, or my nephew's, her grandson's pellet gun, which is made in China.
	And so we were trying to get it working last time and the zero on the thing was complete garbage until we realized that the scope has no up or down.
	So we screwed with it.
	We moved the scope around a little bit.
	And so now we've actually got the thing zeroed, but the crosshairs is at a 30-degree tilt.
	Chinese-made telepuns.
	Damn Chinese.
	And I didn't even get to find out if it works against ground squirrels, for it just tortures them.
	We're going to get a 22 soon, I think.
	There you go.
	I hate those little critters suffering, man.
	They're sweet little critters.
	You put that in your resume, ground squirrel torturer?
	I can make war crimes against brown squirrels.
	The four reasons for goodness can be summed up aptly by the shopping cart theory.
	Ooh.
	Theories.
	Actually, I'm going to give you an exception to the shopping cart theory.
	I think this guy, the meta-critique I'm making in this stream, is if you go to the ghetto grocery store and there's just shopping carts all over the goddamn place, fuck it.
	Don't go to the grocery store anymore.
	Let those animals suffer.
	Yeah, fuck them.
	If you're going to a civilized grocery store, yeah, you put the damn thing back.
	And in fact, if you see one that's just been left behind, you put that back too, because that's your grocery store.
	But if it's not your grocery store, let the animals suffer.
	Right?
	Hey, we gave them grocery carts.
	They couldn't figure out how to use them properly.
	I like to think of the civilized grocery stores as having marble handles on the grocery shop.
	Give it 10 years, man.
	10 years and fancy.
	Yeah.
	Turner and Hooch just got here.
	Baby boomers want their jobs back and kids are giving up on work.
	Nothing to worry about.
	I was thinking about, it's really interesting about the phenomenon in China of lying down, they call it, which is basically just like doing the bare minimum and fuck it.
	And like not having kids too.
	Like, I was thinking, but remember that you remember the meme, white people don't breed in captivity?
	The same thing's going on in China.
	It's almost like most people don't, if there's no hope, there's no freedom.
	Why bother?
	That's the fundamental problem with the technocratic.
	Like, this is why, yeah, we've got some troubles ahead of us.
	Okay?
	It's not like the next few years are going to be freedom and prosperity and horny girls on every street corner.
	Should I tell the audience why I have a child?
	Because you don't know how condoms work?
	No.
	No.
	I would see Protestant.
	I was so surprised that I told my wife this and she thought it was heartwarming because I told it while I was drunk and I was like, oh fuck, I shouldn't have said that.
	What was the reason?
	You probably told me, man, I thought it was just like, well, duh, so I didn't even remember it.
	No, I met the thing that put me over the edge, because I never liked kids, and you know, I'm like, well, I'm always putting off to later, like, later, when I'm more financially secure.
	Later, later.
	And I met this woman.
	It was such a sweet woman.
	Like, a really great woman.
	She was 40, I think.
	And, you know, when you're 40, you're getting there, right?
	Like, it's do or die?
	You know.
	Tell me about it.
	as a woman right as a woman you can still you can still have kids but like hurry the fuck up And I talked to her, and I'm like, why don't you have kids?
	Because she has two fluffy babies, two dogs, and clearly loves her husband, but they're not married, but they're pretty much married.
	And husband didn't want kids.
	And I can just see this look in her eye of, I want babies so fucking much.
	And I love my husband.
	So I'm, you know, caught between a rock and a hard place of, do I dump my, well, not husband, my boyfriend, and find a new guy at the age of 40, or do I just live my life without children?
	And I thought to myself, I never want my wife.
	To have that look in her eyes.
	So, uh, here we are.
	We got a baby, the first one, and we're gonna have one.
	And also, another reason why I didn't want to have children is that I knew you can't just have one.
	That's my philosophy on children.
	No, no, God, that's why you screwed them up.
	Start listening to Marilyn Manson.
	Yeah, you can't just have one.
	You gotta have, at the very minimum, two.
	Preferably three.
	Yeah, three.
	Three to five is probably.
	Yeah, practically it's more like at least three.
	Yeah.
	So, and it's so unromantic.
	I think it's so unromantic, but she was like, oh, I completely agree with it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm like, oh, I mean, it's completely logic.
	It's very logical and reasonable in my mind.
	Like, okay, I don't want to have kids because if I had one kid, I got to have more than one kid.
	And that's a lot of work.
	And yada, yada, yada.
	But at the same time, I'm not going to wait till she's 40.
	And then be like, oh, sorry, babe.
	One of the really one thing I've been reflecting on this.
	Yeah.
	I haven't actually thought to put it into words, though, but like one of the big errors our society is making is presuming that women, the number one thing that women want to do is something other than produce children.
	Oh, yeah.
	Fuck, man.
	They love it.
	They love it.
	I read a great science fiction novel ages back.
	yeah that um basically the science it was covering the like we invented robots Yeah.
	And we were, like, out in the solar system.
	And the robots did better in outer space than humans for obvious reasons.
	Right?
	And the protagonist, it was just a short story.
	The protagonist's, like, you know, space cowboy guy.
	And he's kind of reflecting, like, his wife is happy because they have kids.
	and that gives her meaning in life, but it does not, and he loves his kids, but it doesn't give him meaning.
	A man needs something to struggle for.
	And with these robots being better at everything, it's like, what the fuck do I even exist for?
	Until they find out that, like, trans warp travel doesn't work for robots.
	Yay!
	Humans!
	Yeah.
	but like that really stuck with me and we've got this whole like the whole system the whole narrative the consistent narrative is that a woman needs to have a career and woman needs to do i'm not saying a woman shouldn't have a career yeah I'm not saying a woman shouldn't create artwork or raise dogs or have a garden or do anything.
	But the number one thing that really validates a woman's existence is producing children.
	And if you, and we cover that up.
	we cover that up and say you know like half all of the appetizers don't have the meal and by the time they figure out the meal is what they really really want it's their well the average person's very stupid Reminds me of a funny story of two women that I knew.
	One, she got a math degree, very intelligent woman.
	You know, she got it because she loves math.
	And her grandma said that she was a whore because she got a math degree, and she's clearly just there to pick up whiten.
	Okay, fast forward multiple years, and I met a woman who got an engineering degree, and I talked to her about husbandry and getting children.
	And she's like, Yeah, I'm gonna have kids, and I forget how her degree was subsidized, but whatever.
	And then she's like, Yeah, and I she's like, Yeah, I gotta leg up.
	I'm a female engineer, I get work of her way.
	And like, what's gonna happen when you have kids?
	Oh, I'm gonna quit my job and never go back to work.
	Good thing we invested in that engineering education, eh?
	Yeah, right.
	Well, I mean, it's funny because she was like, I mean, I calling your grandchild a whore because she's going into you know, a male science is wrong and dumb.
	But at the same time, there are women.
	She actually said she went to an engineering degree to find an engineer so that she would have the so she could cream of the crop.
	So, yeah, cream of the crop.
	She gets first pick of the alpha engineer.
	She gets to look at all the engineers, figure out which one's most alpha.
	And she said that like verbatim, like and like unapologetically, like, I am here to have a job for four fucking years.
	And all the power to her for the record.
	Yeah.
	All the power.
	Like, yeah.
	The ladies listening, if you have that opportunity, you take that up.
	Fuck principles.
	Yeah.
	Do what works for you.
	Yeah.
	And I, she's not a whore, but she's still an opportunist, right?
	Like, oh, we all got.
	Don't let principles.
	Like, I'm going to be a good Catholic girl, and I'm not going to do that because it should be men getting those degrees.
	So, no, you're just harming yourself.
	But isn't there something to be said about the rhetoric of it too, right?
	Like, I'll say they're at the same time, it's like in a way, the first woman's grandma, even though she's being very crude and insulting.
	Well, she was kind of being like the social prince, only a whore would do that.
	Yeah.
	Except, guess what?
	It's the 21st century.
	Everybody's a whore nowadays.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, it's funny too that the mathematician, she did go on to be a housewife.
	Of course, she did.
	Oh, man, she was so insulted by her grandma.
	And the same thing, too.
	It's like, okay, I can see how you're freaking insulted by that.
	That is insulting, right?
	And I know that she loves math.
	She loves it.
	Okay, that's very interesting.
	Promoting God's Eye.
	Yeah.
	One of the characters is a very smart woman that wants to make her mark on history before she settles down to be part like a no part of the nobility, producing the children for the next generation of the nobility.
	Yeah.
	And then she, at the start, she starts off the novel after she's been locked in an internment camp for six months, starving.
	And now, and she's a smart woman, she's an accomplished woman.
	She helps us establish contact with an alien species, right?
	But by the end of the book, she's like, fuck, I just want to have babies now.
	Fuck this shit.
	I've had my adventure.
	I found my husband.
	Let's have lots and lots of fucking babies.
	That's what a woman needs to do.
	Yeah.
	And it's especially a smart.
	Okay, that's the tragedy.
	Smart women really need to have babies more.
	Yep.
	Oh, she's so ecstatic.
	She's so happy every day.
	Just to have that baby.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah.
	Like, we, whereas we need to go do man stuff to, you know, justify her existence.
	And I love my baby, and every day I like her more.
	I like your baby too.
	Your baby, his baby, loves me because I'm the only one that reads her HL Menken quotes.
	Yeah.
	She calms right down when I start reading her that.
	Yeah.
	And I'm sure.
	But I know that she loves the baby more.
	But I think that over time we're going to equal out.
	But, oh boy.
	Newborns are so much work.
	I don't think any man can love a newborn baby as much as a mother can.
	No.
	A child?
	Yes.
	A newborn baby?
	No.
	Well, the way that we love the baby is we make sure the plumbing is working.
	We go make ourselves useful.
	And the tragedy is that women are being, that aspect of life is being ignored for women.
	And what I was thinking about, most people are stupid.
	Most women wind up at 30 or 35 and they're unfulfilled because they don't have a child.
	But they can't figure that out.
	They can't figure out why they're unfulfilled.
	So they just get really sour and bitter and nasty.
	And these are the people in charge of all of our HR departments.
	Yeah.
	I think about our cat too.
	The canard that you love your pets less.
	Like, no, I don't.
	Your cat's looking out for the baby.
	Yeah.
	Cat's looking out for the baby.
	I love my cat more.
	Your cat was defending the baby from the vacuum.
	Yes.
	Should I tell that story?
	Yes, tell the story.
	So Toby hates the vacuum.
	He runs away every time.
	Yeah, but because we had a baby, we haven't, oh man, our house is in such a state of disarray as before.
	Before Baby, it would never get that bad.
	Before Baby, it was a fucking IKEA catalog.
	basically yeah but he wore his boat shoes all over Yeah.
	So we vacuumed for the first time in a long time.
	And the cat, instead of running away, we always have the vacuum out.
	You're like, vacuum's coming.
	The cat will just run away.
	The cat knows it's coming.
	Instead of running away, the cat did a valiant stand in front of the baby.
	Like, I will protect the baby from the vacuum.
	What a wonderful cat Toby is.
	And then turn on the vacuum.
	And Toby just, you know, he sucked it up for like a good minute before freaking out and running away.
	He did run away.
	Yeah, he ran away.
	And then whenever the vacuum is over, usually he'll like stay hidden for a while to make sure the coast is clear.
	But instead, he like pranced out and like looked for the baby.
	Did you survive?
	I tried to be a hero, but now I'm the hero.
	Where are you?
	Now I was a second hero.
	I get a bronze star.
	To go back to my, I've been saying to you privately that I've been, I've gotten really burned out on deontology, on idealism, on trying to figure out, like, man, if you try to be a good person and you tell other people that you're trying to be a good person, they will take advantage of you.
	Yeah.
	And I'm just trying to, like, I like the...
	Now, okay, with the Stoic Paradoxes by, who wrote Stoic Paradoxes?
	I don't know.
	It's the senator.
	The emperor?
	No, no, it was a senator.
	It wasn't Marcus Aurelius.
	Okay, you're talking about Cicero?
	Cicero.
	Yes.
	Cicero.
	He wrote Stoic Paradoxes.
	Yep.
	And right at the beginning, he's like, anything that's not virtuous is unvirtuous.
	Fuck you, Cicero.
	I'm doing my best, man.
	Yeah.
	But generally, I guess I like Marcus Aurelius a little bit better.
	Because it's more of a focus on how do I make smart decisions.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Like, being, for instance, like, being a coward is not a smart decision.
	It's smart in the short term, it's stupid in the long term.
	Cowards don't get laid.
	Going back to ideals, though, like, this is the thing.
	I guess there's a fundamental thing about acknowledging the ideal and living up to the ideal are two different things.
	And like, at least acknowledging it is halfway there.
	I think you should acknowledge the ideal.
	Yeah.
	But don't try and be the like if you try to be the ideal.
	Yeah.
	It's like trying to be an alpha male.
	Have you seen these fucking clowns these days that are like alpha male 101?
	Yeah.
	They are just absolute plastic imitation alpha males.
	Like going back to good old Homer.
	They ever watched the old clown.
	We should turn this off.
	This music is awful.
	Alright.
	Yeah.
	It's over.
	Fuck this music.
	So yeah, the old Homer The Odyssey.
	I think they had the Odyssey in an old movie.
	I need to read that.
	Watch the movie.
	Yeah, in the movie, it's an old movie, made in the 70s, I think.
	And they actually did a pretty good deep.
	Oh, maybe I'll just watch the movie.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, he at least started with the movie, for sure.
	For that one, anyway, like, I know that Troy with fucking Brad Pitt was, uh...
	Oh, fuck that.
	That's...
	That's not how bronze works.
	That was a travesty.
	That was awful.
	You know, anything.
	That makes you dumber to watch that movie, but.
	But, yeah, there's a scene where they have this CGI, which probably was really good at the time of Poseidon battering Odysseus.
	And Odysseus is basically saying, why did Poseidon, why are you forsaken to me?
	And he batters me.
	He's like, because, you know, big wave.
	Without the gods, big wave, man is nothing.
	And you can see that it's like a display of power, or you can say it as, like, you know, without these ideals.
	This is how I interpret it anyway.
	Is that without the ideals, man is nothing, right?
	Without at least trying, acknowledging the ideals and trying to live up to them, you're nothing.
	The foundational question.
	Yeah.
	Like the defining question that creates spirituality.
	The two questions.
	Number one, is God fucking with me?
	Yeah.
	Number two, why is God fucking with me?
	Is that not the question?
	Why is God fucking with me?
	That's the story of Lot, basically, right?
	That's the story of Lot.
	Christ, God, why hast thou forsaken me?
	Like, that is the religious question.
	Yeah.
	Like, the universe is fucking with me too much for it to be arbitrary.
	Yeah.
	I hope.
	Yeah.
	No, I've been thinking about too with our baby because Kira and I have both been praying for like the bad, the very bad things not to happen.
	And well, we got a baby that's grumpy and loud.
	Oh, yeah, you were worried about a retard baby.
	Oh, yes.
	Or miscarriage, or you know, like.
	Kira had some nothing major, but some health problems.
	So they were.
	The pregnancy was ballsy.
	It was a ballsy pregnancy.
	Yeah.
	And it went perfectly.
	It went perfectly.
	They've got a great, strong, healthy baby.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I was thinking about that, you know, the whole idea that God, God gives you the most stress you can handle to make you better at handling stress.
	That's a theory, anyway.
	Yeah, that's a theory, yeah.
	Well, yeah, you know, seems to be working out so far.
	We have a very grumpy, loud baby.
	Well, we can handle that.
	And that's, you know, like, I try and pay attention to what lessons I'm learning.
	Or what.
	I try and pay attention to, like, how am I fucking up?
	Why are things going sideways?
	What was the fuck up?
	Right?
	What lesson?
	And it usually takes them about three times to learn the lesson.
	And I guess this is part of the re part of what I've been going on about, is part of my lesson is eat more of an asshole.
	Yeah.
	Or less.
	I think it's not about more or less, it's more about timing.
	Reading the room.
	Oh, whatever.
	I was being nice to her.
	She just didn't appreciate it.
	No, like, stop throwing pearls before swine.
	yeah i stopped doing that it's amazing how uh even with everything that's coming out about the whole faucian thing and it's like we still have lockdowns in this country You know, Matt Max just got arrested by the RCMP in Manitoba?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Every one of those officers should be dishonorably discharged at the bare minimum, possibly arrested for treason as far as I'm concerned.
	I wonder what the American equivalent of Maxine Bernier is.
	Trump?
	Kind of is, but not really, because Maxime Bernier is deputy in power.
	But basically, the Trump of Canada has been arrested for going into a...
	Going to a political rally in his own name.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's Calgary and Long Firm that's defending him.
	Good.
	So, I mean, these things are shaking out.
	Yep.
	They're shaking out.
	But yeah, I mean, like, Texas is completely open.
	Yep.
	They're fine.
	And Florida.
	And Florida.
	Florida's completely open.
	They're fine.
	Yeah.
	And think about the demographics of Florida, too.
	I think that a younger population has moved to Florida quite a bit in the last five years, but it's still majority old people.
	It's still the retirement.
	That's a good point.
	I think that it would be hardest hit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, if anywhere had justification for lockdowns, it would be Snowbird, Florida.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	And yet we're still running around with this pretense that the government response was sane or justified or anything.
	It's quite frustrating.
	Yeah, and it's great too, because I mean, as much as they've been suppressing if vitamin D has been like a huge factor in if you get really sick or not.
	Zinc as well.
	And zinc, yeah.
	That's what hydroxychloroquine does, is it helps your cells absorb zinc.
	Oh, does it?
	Okay.
	And hydroxychloroquine, quiniquin, whatever.
	Like there's like the three drugs that are dirt cheap.
	And all three of them, they help your cells absorb zinc.
	So eat your bananas, folks.
	I didn't know that it helps you absorb zinc.
	I don't know if that was the pathway, but I know there's at least four different drugs that, like, there's ivermectin.
	Ivermectin.
	And I think it's zithromycin, and then there's hydroxychloroquine, and then there's, uh...
	And there's one that's basically identical to hydroxychloroquine, but it starts with a Q. There's one I haven't researched much, but I've been talking to an Indian friend of mine who says that the Indian government had created a drug that has been very effective against the virus.
	And I haven't looked into it, but I forget the name of it.
	Which was interesting to me, because I've never heard of it before.
	Well, there's just something between me about it.
	I was like, oh, so how are the people in India talking about the Lab League hypothesis?
	And he was like, well, we've been talking about that for a year.
	So have we, just not on Twitter.
	Yeah, so have we, but we get banhammered for that shit.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, we still have freaking lockdowns here.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess they loosened them today, did they?
	Well, we've got patios again.
	Once we get 70%.
	Allegedly, do you believe that 70% of people are vaccinated in Alberta?
	I don't.
	It's hard to believe.
	I have a lot of trouble believing that.
	But I know that I know a lot of people who have been vaccinated a lot.
	Yeah, I would say the minority of people I know have been not vaccinated.
	Well, if they start dying of heart attacks in five years, I don't give a shit, honestly.
	I mean.
	Like, I do.
	I've got people I care about that got vaccinated.
	Oh, yeah.
	But, like, shit, man, you failed the stupid test.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was telling you about that friend of the friend of Cura's who she just got it because she was lonely.
	She was like, oh, I want to socialize.
	I better get it.
	Just lie.
	Forge the documents.
	Shit.
	One of the things that people really need to get over is the concept that we're living in a just society.
	Yeah.
	What's the thing, though, is that we are living in a theoretically just society.
	We live in a society.
	We live in a society.
	You know, that's it.
	It's like, it's the thing.
	It's like, oh, we need to change the laws.
	No, we don't.
	We need to enforce the laws.
	There's already too many laws.
	Fewer laws, more enforcement.
	Yeah.
	Let's check the comments here.
	Yeah.
	Fear is the devil.
	Oh, yeah.
	I agree with that.
	Well, it wouldn't be.
	I forget who said it, but there was one person I was listening to talking about how the devil is the accuser.
	Yeah, that is one of the names of the devil.
	yeah the accuser and this this goes into oh shoot what's the term Which is interesting because, I mean, a lot of people that make accusations are victims, but then again, the false accuser, I guess, would be a better word for it.
	There's a term, I can't remember it right now.
	I mean, it's one that plagues me.
	Yeah.
	Where you're constantly second-guessing yourself morally.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	It's.
	Oh, jeez.
	It's like, like.
	It's like rule obsessing.
	Yeah.
	I'll see if anybody knows what I'm talking about.
	Like, you're constantly obsessed.
	Oh, did I sin?
	Did I sin?
	Did I sin?
	And.
	Which, according to Kierkegaard, would be like the way of being a Christian, right?
	Well, that's actually, that's a fallacy in the Catholic Church.
	No, shut up.
	You're fine.
	Go to church.
	Yeah.
	Stop worrying.
	Like, it's.
	Is worrying about every little minuche.
	Yeah.
	Are you becoming a better person by worrying about all of this?
	Yeah.
	Or are you obsessing to the point of paralysis?
	Analysis paralysis.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, which is interesting.
	Like, because I like Kiergaard, and basically he's to be Kierguardian is like to be an analysis paralysis.
	See, and I completely disagree with that.
	That's what I'm.
	And I'm saying I like it.
	I'm not going to say that that is the best way to be.
	But I like that idea.
	I think it's great to have theoretical conversations about that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But listen, this sort of person that's going around raping grandma and mugging her daughter is not his problem.
	Yeah.
	I don't think Kierkegaard would be like, oh, well, geez, think about it for a minute.
	No, that's not at all.
	I'm just saying, at least Kierkegaard, basically in terms of salvation, is like, are you a good person?
	Oh, no.
	You're constantly evaluating that.
	If you're constantly asking if you're a good person, you're not a good person because you're constantly asking it.
	I don't know.
	Stop asking it.
	Go do.
	Well, I don't know.
	But anyway, let's move on for that.
	It's anyway, that comes to the accuser.
	Where it's just that whisper in your ear, oh, you sinned.
	You sinned.
	You sinned.
	Shut the fuck up and go kneel next to Mary by the cross.
	Asshole.
	And this is why I prefer the.
	What's the smart thing to do?
	Yep.
	Because smart and moral are they're close cousins.
	Right?
	Like, would you rather have a moral person that was very stupid and screwed everything up?
	Yeah.
	As a friend?
	Oh, wait, you are friends with me.
	Don't answer that question.
	Versus like a smart, conniving villain.
	Like a really smart, lawful, evil villain.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's going to be a great neighbor to you.
	No, I wouldn't say that.
	But I've always said, though, like, intelligence is a tool, right?
	Like, intelligence is a tool you can be used for wickedness or greatness.
	I mean, smart in the common sense sort of way.
	Like, is it smart to pay your taxes on time?
	Yeah, because you don't want to fuck with the tax people.
	They're assholes.
	Pay your taxes on time.
	Don't jaywalk.
	Show up to work on time.
	Like, that has nothing to do with being good.
	It has to do with being smart.
	And if you're just smart, then you're making the world a better place.
	Like, the number one thing that destroys, that just screws everything up, is not somebody being willfully evil, it's somebody just being stupid.
	Yeah.
	Coom!
	Coom!
	I mean, that guy's got a fair bit of evil in it.
	You gotta watch this show, The Beat.
	It's so good.
	There's one dialogue that makes the series.
	I haven't finished it yet.
	But basically, imagine a brilliant, brilliant man who does not believe in freedom and thinks that it's right to manipulate people.
	And he's like, I'm part of a cabal of brilliant people.
	We talk and we pollute and we all manipulate you.
	Okay, 4chan.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and then he's like saying, and then the interviewer says, so, and you're all benevolent?
	Like, no, not all of us.
	Pray that we win.
	I would rather have smart evil in charge than good stupid.
	Yeah.
	But he deals with it.
	I think the beautiful thing of the series so far, like I said, I haven't finished it, is that he's one of the benevolent smart people.
	And even then, his hoobris is what is dooming society.
	So I like that, right?
	It's like, oh, no, I'm smart, and I'm trying to help you, you fucking idiot.
	And then his own hoobris is ruining the world.
	Anyway.
	HK says, I have an engagement party tomorrow.
	Not mine.
	Any tips?
	Don't drink too much.
	Hit on the 45-year-old women.
	They love the attention.
	That's what I did.
	Knock over a plate of the table of fucking crackers while I was kissing her.
	How long until whites are sent to the camps?
	See?
	They won't be, though.
	I don't think so.
	No, no.
	They're already in the camps.
	It's more like how long until open violence between how long until race war now, unfortunately.
	Yeah, actually, that's the problem with the questions.
	It presumes a like the day it's happening now.
	Well, that's the thing too is like Black Lives Matters, you know, is not a popular thing.
	Like, who knows what's gonna happen.
	There's so much fucking anti-white propaganda, but who knows where it's gonna go?
	The thing is, it's already here.
	I'm gonna read you a poem.
	Yeah.
	If this frickin' thing ever loads.
	Yeah.
	Roses are red, violets are blue.
	It was not a part of their blood.
	It came to them very late.
	Oh, okay.
	With long arrears to make good when the Saxon began to hate.
	They were not easily moved.
	Alright.
	They were icy, willing to wait.
	Till every count should be proved.
	Ere the Saxon began to hate.
	Their voices were even and low.
	Their eyes were level and straight.
	There was neither sign nor show when the Saxon began to hate.
	It was not preached to the crowd.
	It was not taught by the state.
	No man spoke it aloud when the Saxon began to hate.
	It was not suddenly bred.
	It will not swiftly abate through the chilled years ahead when time shall count from the date that the Saxon began to hate.
	Now that is poetry, my friends.
	So yeah, they're not going to send us to camps, man.
	We're already in the camps.
	It's uh, how do you respond?
	How do you live?
	What are you gonna do?
	Being the biggest alpha male in a group of engineers is like being the prettiest waitress at Denny's.
	Yeah, except that engineers get paid super, super well.
	And actually, I've known some pretty alpha engineers.
	Nevada Post Office still requires masks, but I can't think of anywhere else that does.
	Good lord, I missed the Mojave.
	Did you ever actually play Fallout New Vegas?
	Oh, yeah, come on, of course.
	So, that's interesting.
	That's some interesting questions.
	I wanted to ask you, though, before that, though, remember before Obama when race war was like a ridiculous thing that conspiracy theorists would just like rant about?
	Oh, okay.
	You know, I was seriously been thinking about writing a post trying to reclaim the reputation that pricks like Thunderfoot stole from me.
	Yeah.
	Except, like, what am I going to say?
	I'm not a white nationalist now.
	When they are openly publishing, like, Coca-Cola, Be Less White?
	Yeah.
	The Washington Times op-ed, white people are the enemy and need to be destroyed.
	Yeah.
	And you've seen that very heartbreaking thing about what happened in Texas.
	Which one?
	A black guy murdered and raped a young boy, a young white boy.
	Which one?
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, okay, yeah.
	I see what you're going.
	I've read a lot of those.
	No, I actually didn't see the latest one, but I've read some truly horrific stories.
	Like, this is not new.
	I'm finally beginning to notice.
	What pisses me up about people in my Facebook feed?
	They're like, oh, this Muslim family.
	Like, yeah, that's awful.
	That shouldn't happen.
	Except that was a mentally ill person.
	Yeah.
	That was mental illness.
	There was no political agenda there.
	There was no nothing.
	That was mental illness.
	Yeah.
	Like this guy.
	I haven't looked at it at all, so I don't know.
	You tell me.
	All I know is that every time something tragic happens to a non-white person, there's a chorus of people.
	Oh, yeah, we had a vigil.
	Crying it in a vigil, and it's just like this shit happens and no one knows about it.
	Like this guy, dude, that's not like what you just said is nothing.
	I've heard far worse stories.
	Well, this is, I've heard worse stories in South Africa.
	There's anyway, yeah.
	But yeah, it's funny.
	Like, I had a friend, like, that I reconnected with, and, you know, he's pretty normy, but he's a very critical thinker.
	And he's like, what the fuck happened?
	Like, we grew up in an era where black people were just black people.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, racism was a fucking joke.
	Yeah.
	Like, that was just a thing that was a part of the past.
	And then after Obama, like, oh my god, like, we have riots and murders in the streets because why?
	Yeah.
	And I wonder, like, I wonder of, like, say you had a 10-year-old now growing up seeing this shit, like, versus a 10-year-old one growing up in the 80s.
	It's a completely different world.
	Completely different.
	Well, and do you want to take the risk?
	Yeah.
	Do you want to pull over and help that guy change his tire?
	Yeah.
	There's another one down the south, I believe, where a guy pulled over to help a black guy change his tire.
	Yeah.
	And he got put in the hospital.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I told you the story.
	And so, like, you've got a kid at home.
	Are you going to risk your.
	Like, this isn't about your safety.
	It's your kid.
	That your kid needs a father.
	Yeah.
	Are you going to risk that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Break down the social media.
	And like, listen, 99 out of 100, the guy just has a flat tire and needs some help.
	Yeah.
	But one out of 100 is really bad odds when we're talking about your life.
	Yeah.
	I should tell a story of when I was driving home from the hospital.
	Did I tell you the story about driving home from the hospital?
	No.
	And after my wife had given birth, and there was somebody at the side of the road.
	And I just thought that they, you know, you know, you're thinking nowadays, like, okay, they got a cell phone, so I don't need to stop.
	But still, they're in distress.
	So I slowed down and drove past, right?
	And I noticed somebody was waving their hand for help.
	And I'm like, oh, fuck.
	I'm going to throw it in reverse and I'm going to go back and help them.
	And then, as soon as I went by them, they gave me the middle finger for not stopping soon enough.
	I was like, all right.
	Okay.
	Keep on going.
	Keep in mind, I've been up for, you know, 24 hours.
	I'm going home to sleep.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	You know, there's.
	By the way, okay, you want to talk about smart stupid.
	Yeah.
	Is the battery low?
	I think the battery's low.
	Can you?
	We need to grab that cable.
	All right.
	You need to slide over.
	No, no, don't do that.
	No.
	You'll tear it up.
	You need to slide backwards.
	Yep.
	It's like, trying to explain to Toad's about the words.
	Alright, slide backwards.
	There we go.
	There we go. Yeah. There.
	Now we're happy.
	Um...
	Smart stupid. Um...
	Don't engage in petty vindictiveness for no reason.
	Like I had a guy sent me a rude email the other day.
	Yeah.
	That I could have gone double barreled on him and told him where to go and how to get there.
	I didn't.
	I, I was, I wasn't nice, but I was like, excuse me?
	I thought we were doing this.
	I replied, oh, sorry, the secretary didn't tell me that this had happened.
	Yes, we can do this.
	Let's move forward.
	So it was a simple miscommunication.
	If I'd gone double barreled and told him what I really thought about him and his genetic lineage, then, you know, it's like that wouldn't have been a smart thing to do.
	Being an asshole is usually a stupid thing to do.
	As tempting as it is.
	I know, it's very tempting for you, especially.
	Good lord.
	Do you have any idea how nice I am?
	Do you have any idea how many things I don't say that I think?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever heard the French saying, the spirit of the stairwell?
	No.
	It's like when you leave the room, it's like, oh, this is what I should have said.
	Yeah.
	Constant stream of the most evil shit you ever heard.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God, I've gone double barreled a few times in my life.
	Like, I still remember them.
	They were glorious.
	So one time I was at a pizza shop at like 3 a.m., right?
	I was having my pizza.
	And there's this drunk prick.
	Walks and be like, he's just being, like, he's just making the poor kids behind the counter suffer.
	And he's, like, upsetting everybody else in the restaurant.
	So I'm just glaring at him.
	Like, get your shit together, buddy.
	Yeah.
	And he looks at me.
	Don't look at me.
	I'm not your fucking friend.
	Yeah.
	Drops his gaze, finishes his pizza, gets the fuck out.
	Yeah.
	Actually, wait, no, I think he fell asleep on the pizza, but whatever.
	He stopped being a problem.
	Yeah.
	And that was a fun thing to do.
	Yeah, reminds me of a, I had.
	I've always been good with words.
	And a cutting linguist, one might say.
	linguist and I remember I had a I had this tendency though of like being a bit of a doormat And then unloading with both barrels when I reached my boiling point.
	Yeah.
	And I remember.
	When the Saxon began to hate.
	Really, really nice until we're not.
	Yeah, and I remember being like, and I would be like, but at the same time, I was like, what happened?
	then this person doesn't want to talk to me anymore, even though I fucking tore a strip off them.
	But I remember the last time I did it, well, the last time I didn't do it, I wrote this email of, like, I want to say this thing to this person.
	I sent it to a friend of mine, like, do you want, should I send it?
	And then the person, Craig Brand, like, you need to think about if you want to keep this person as a friend or you want to teach them a lesson.
	No.
	And you need to make that decision before.
	And I didn't send that email.
	Or I didn't say that thing to that person.
	But it was just like, it was such a revelation to be like, oh, I see.
	I see what I'm doing here now.
	Oh, okay.
	So I need to make these decisions between speaking the unbridled truth and cutting a tie.
	Even though I'm not cutting the tie.
	Even though when you fucking tear a strip off somebody, you're cutting a tie.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a funny thing about psychology, too.
	Like, it reminds me of.
	I had actually a boss that I was friends with, and he was telling me, like, have you ever been dumped before?
	And I said, of course I've been.
	And then he's like, tell me about all the time you've been dumped.
	And I told him.
	All of them?
	Man, you got all day?
	No, I told him all the times.
	And he's like, I just started being really nice to her because I was sick of her.
	No, no, no, no.
	He said, okay, so you've never been dumped.
	This is what he said to me.
	You've never been dumped.
	And I was like, wow.
	If you put it that way, I've never been dumped.
	Because I've always just been painfully honest to people.
	To the point where it's like, I was like, okay, you're this, this, this, and this, and I don't like that.
	However, you can change.
	Here's the minimum accepted standards to maintain an employee at Big L Incorporated.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My boss told me this.
	He's like, oh my god, so you've never been dumped before.
	I'm like, this nice motherfucker is a player.
	Do you know what my mother said about this guy?
	He just looks like he's such a patient man.
	Mom, you nailed him.
	Yeah, well, that's the thing, too.
	Like, all these women that I did before my wife was like, we can work with this.
	However, you need to get up to stop, sweetheart.
	However, XYZ, this is how you are, and this is not acceptable.
	You're a weird sort of screwed up, my friend.
	Yeah.
	Screwed up like a fox.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	If someone 50 years from now watched 90s media versus 2020, the 90s would be seen as more progressive.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, it would.
	yeah modern media is just like it's pandering in the stupidest what stupidest manner possible Yeah.
	Where do you guys see the dating market a couple of years from now?
	Ooh, that's a good question.
	A lot more FTMs.
	If you like small tits, you'll be doing okay.
	Small tits and hairy licks.
	Ooh, that sounds awful.
	Just keeps getting worse and worse.
	Huge plitoriuses, though.
	Yeah, I was talking to my wife about things getting progressively worse in small ways you don't notice.
	Like there's no bags at the grocery store we go to.
	Yeah, that's illegal because of Trudeau.
	Yeah, you have to bring your own bag.
	And like the dividers just to tell the person, the cashier, that these are my groceries.
	Oh, those are gone.
	They're gone.
	Yeah, and it's just like, and I like these are like tiny inconveniences, but like, there's like a tiny inconvenience every fucking day.
	Every day they add one more inconvenience to life.
	makes it like more inefficient and it's not like shit As if we're touching the stupid touchpad on the debit machine.
	Yeah.
	Getting rid of the dividers didn't do it.
	Like you could just not use the damn thing.
	Yeah.
	Just leave a spatial gap.
	Yeah.
	And it's not like it's saving the, like, they just got thrown in the garbage.
	Yeah, probably.
	Like, they're, like, these things last 300 years, right?
	We don't need new ones.
	That was through me.
	What the hell do these idiots think they're doing?
	And it's a little worse, a little worse every day.
	It just makes me think about it.
	And that made me think of the dividers.
	It made me think about growing up, you know, in the 90s, and how like everything got better.
	Everything, no, everything got better, a little bit better, every day.
	It did, didn't it?
	The video games got better.
	Everything got better.
	You know what?
	A little bit better.
	Clothing.
	Yeah.
	Clothing has been getting better all of our lives.
	And it's kind of like I'm kind of like we're at the peak of the curve.
	Where some things are getting better, some things are getting worse.
	You can get a pair of jeans.
	You can get a pair of really good jeans for $20 these days.
	Okay.
	Right?
	I'll take you right for it.
	Well, it's not guaranteed, but like, honestly, some of my favorite jeans.
	I'll spend $40 on a pair of pants.
	They're like, and I'll spend $20.
	I'm like, shit, these fit perfectly.
	They look great.
	When I took the divider away, it was like a turning point in my life, whereas up until 2020, every year or every day, whatever I say, every incremental change was a little bit better.
	Just a little bit.
	See, and in 2020, or 2019 happened up in the middle of 2019, everything is getting a little worse every day.
	For me, it started in 2005 with the smoking bans.
	Nobody asked for a smoking ban.
	The government just out of nowhere decided that first we're going to ban smoking in coffee shops.
	So then Tim Hortons does those smoking-only areas that were constantly crowded.
	You'd have like two people in the non-smoking area, you'd have 12 people crowded in the smoking area.
	Just want to have my Tim Hortons and have a smoke.
	Yep.
	Then they banned that.
	Then they banned smoking in bars.
	Then they banned smoking in airports.
	And so now, like, part of the reason I hate flying so much, it's not even airport security.
	It's that you expect me to go three fucking hours without a cigarette.
	Like, I go through security, and now I can't have a fucking cigarette.
	I can't step outside and have a cigarette.
	I can't go to the smoking lounge and have a cigarette.
	It's like, no, just stand there holding your dick in your hand, not smoking, and desperately wanting nicotine.
	Why are you doing this to me?
	yeah there's no dude they had separate ventilation on the smoking areas yeah Right?
	Like, it's completely ventilated.
	It's completely...
	Man, I'm sick and dance with sh...
	Shut the fuck up about secondhand smoke.
	You ever walk down a busy street?
	Then shut the fuck up about secondhand smoke.
	There's just been this gradual, progressive, we're just going to make it painful for you to exist.
	Yep.
	And it's, yeah, it's catching up.
	Yep.
	It's a little bit worse every day.
	Every day is slightly more inconvenient, slightly more expensive.
	Yep.
	Slightly more unpleasant.
	Every day they come up with a new thing that you're not allowed to say because it's racist.
	Yep.
	Yeah, and I mean, when I say until 2020, it was like concrete things.
	Whereas, yeah, it's been slightly more restrictive on what you can say for a long time.
	But real world, everyday things.
	It's accelerating.
	I guess the question is, are we going to hit the tipping point?
	Yep.
	Are we going to hit the point where the Saxon begins to hate?
	This Saxon started hating 15 years ago.
	Yep.
	That's kind of the answer to the: are there going to be camps?
	I don't think so.
	No, I don't think so.
	I can see open warfare first.
	Yeah.
	In fact, there is some speculation that war with China might be coming pretty soon.
	Well, and that's the thing, too, is like a lot of people are like, oh, they don't see that China antagonizes differences, right?
	They are doing a divide and conquer.
	Oh, my God.
	I am.
	Well, I mean, even back in the 90s, like, what was the fuck, man?
	You see a black person in the 90s, you're going to be like, oh.
	Is there any animosity there?
	There might be animosity today.
	It wasn't there.
	It wasn't back then.
	And why is that?
	You can say, you know, there's a lot of reasons you can say why, but I know the Chinese, China owns a fucking media.
	Do you remember the John Derbyshire article about the talk?
	Yeah.
	It was an article from, I think, 10 years ago.
	Yeah.
	Where he wrote about the talk that you have with your teenage kids.
	Yeah.
	Where, like, listen, yeah, like, racism is a pretty toxic behavior to adopt.
	It's kind of a nasty thing.
	It's prejudicial.
	It's a loser ideology.
	The sort of people that are racist, they tend to be losers.
	They're making up for their own inadequacies.
	That being said, yeah, I wouldn't make friends with black kids.
	Yeah.
	Not because they're bad kids.
	Like, 99% of them are good kids.
	It's the 1% that you need to look out for.
	The 1% that you pull over to help them with their tire and you get put them in the hospital.
	And is that risk worth taking when there's a 0% chance that a white kid's going to do that?
	And now it really infuriates me.
	It infuriates me that they're playing the races against each other.
	Like the latest thing in Canada.
	So if you guys didn't hear, there was a mass grave of 215 kids discovered outside of a residential school.
	So if you don't, the residential schools were late 19th century.
	Canada was basically a 19th century country until 1950.
	We didn't actually join the 20th century until 1950, guys.
	It was a 19th century attempt to modernize the natives.
	See, from the 19th century point of view, you could lock the natives in reserves with walls around them and treat them like zoo animals and allow them to remain in the Stone Age.
	I actually had a guy argue with me that they weren't in the Stone Age.
	Can I please see the copper and zinc mines with which they made their Bronze Age technology?
	No, they were Stone Age.
	They're a Stone Age culture with no written language.
	And so how locking them in zoos is clearly inhumane.
	So the alternative force them to learn modern knowledge.
	Forced them to learn mathematics, English, Latin, and by the way, completely erase their own culture, you know?
	Yeah, that was kind of a fuck-up.
	But there's a saying in safety legislation that safety legislation is written in blood.
	You don't know that a machine is unsafe until it fucks up and kills somebody.
	And then you write legislation that we're never going to do this again.
	And so yes, the residential schools were a fuck-up in retrospect.
	Hindsight being 2020, they were a fuck-up.
	But they weren't a fuck-up done out of evil.
	They weren't a fuck-up that we should have known better.
	They were a fuck-up as we've never done this before.
	We're going to try and induct.
	We're going to try and make them equal citizens to all the white people.
	And we kind of fucked up.
	But it was done with good intentions.
	Now, those 215 bodies, that was over a 100-year period when childhood mortality rates were 25%.
	So, no, it wasn't a fucking mass grave.
	Yeah.
	It was a graveyard.
	And, I don't know, they probably had wooden plaques or something that have rotted or disappeared over the years.
	Lots of white people buried in unmarked graves.
	You guys have played Fallout, right?
	I am.
	But my point is they're using this to create friction between Native Americans and white people.
	It infuriates me that they're instigating this interracial hatred for the sake of political points.
	I, um, I went to these, uh, these conferences a couple years back with the Ivy League, educated people, libertarian, on the libertarian ssss.
	But what about the roads?
	On the libertarian ssss.
	Who's going to pay for the roads?
	No, okay.
	I want to talk about this.
	You know, I went to these libertarian conferences.
	And these people were coming from Yale and Harvard.
	And tale of two stories, you know.
	Two people.
	I didn't, you know, there wasn't a lot of black people.
	But, you know, I added to my Facebook.
	And one of the guys was very much, like, pro, like, you know, black nationalist type.
	And he's gone to full BLM.
	And there was this girl, very beautiful black woman, and she, I remember, she said that she had the opportunity to work with Cornell West and be his understudy.
	Do you know who he is?
	He's like one of the premier black intellectuals.
	Oh, okay.
	I think he's an idiot.
	She thinks he's an idiot.
	But he's a prestigious idiot.
	But he's a prestigious idiot.
	And she had the opportunity.
	I mean, it would have made her fucking career.
	It would have made her career.
	And she's like, she turned it down.
	And I'm like, what are you doing?
	See, I think, I'm like, what are you doing?
	Like, you should be his understudy.
	And then he's like, well, I've heard stories about how he likes to have beautiful black women as his understudy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	For various reasons.
	Yeah.
	I think, like, when we're talking about pragmatism as opposed to idealism.
	Yeah.
	I think that's pragmatically smart to stay away from the star fuckers.
	Yeah.
	But it was interesting.
	Don't work for Harvey Weinstein.
	The most interesting thing about the last five years, I think I met her maybe five years ago, and this guy too.
	And the BLM guy pollutes my fucking live stream with BLM stuff.
	Shit.
	And the girl that could have been Cornell West's understudy, she's gone dark.
	Doesn't post anything.
	And I don't know.
	That to me says something.
	that says something yeah when when the saxon begins to paint I think she's one of the Saxons.
	Well, okay.
	I mean, like, now I've got this really bad habit of opening my mouth too fucking often.
	Yeah.
	I've got a bad case of foot and mouth disease.
	But there's a lot of people that ain't talking anymore.
	Yeah.
	A lot of people that ain't talking.
	Yeah, you know the best case they can hope for right now the technocrats Yeah.
	Is back off.
	Go back to crappy Democrat nationalism.
	Pretend we're free.
	Leave us the fuck alone.
	Right?
	And that kind of seems what they're doing.
	They're throwing Fauci and Gates to the wolves.
	Yeah.
	And retreating back into, oh, it was China's fault.
	And you know what?
	If they can pull that off, if we can go back to normal, not the new normal, but the old normal.
	Yeah.
	and they want to keep playing their democrat games then yeah no no i think oh wow Yeah, I think it went.
	That's interesting you went there because we haven't.
	We, you know, since the baby, we don't talk as much as we used to.
	You're busy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it seems that's the way it's going.
	It's like, oh, oh, oh.
	Wait, shit's getting exposed?
	No, it's China's fault.
	There's no undermining of the West.
	It wasn't Hansie.
	It wasn't Kenny.
	It wasn't Trudeau.
	No.
	Fuck China.
	And I mean, we're both saying fuck China, but at the same time.
	But at the same time, you're like, oh.
	Taiwan is a country.
	Oh, no.
	John Senna's going to have to come like mercury.
	Look out, John Cena.
	sorry yeah I'm so happy with that don't worry God don't John Cena I've been Chinese but Yeah.
	I'm so happy that my wife wanted to go see Fast and Furious, the next one.
	But after John Cena was like, no, we're going to skip that.
	Fuck John Cena or Senna or whatever.
	Senna or Cena, whatever it is.
	I think it's Cena.
	Cena, fuck her.
	Fucking wrestling faggot.
	You know he's taking it up the ass.
	I know.
	I know.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I didn't know that, but apparently I know it now.
	You know it now.
	Let's check the comments.
	I think the Zijian thing, anyway.
	Oh, geez.
	We are rounding up at two hours.
	This is a good time to end things.
	Unless you got some good comments there.
	We should answer some comments if we can, maybe.
	Yeah, let's go another 15 minutes.
	How about it?
	Guys, toss up some comments.
	We'll actually read the comments.
	And Maddie there.
	Death by a thousand cuts, she says.
	Maddie is definitely part of the Saxon hatred.
	She's Christian East Indian.
	That sounds good.
	Yeah, we actually got a pretty diverse crew around here.
	Yeah.
	Do you know what really fucks me about the bloody BLM crap?
	Now the actual black nationalism.
	We want to be an independent people.
	We want to be all the power to you.
	But the black BLM doesn't.
	No.
	The BLM, no, like, they're starting off on the premise that they're a failed state.
	They just want a parasite off of everybody else.
	Off of anybody that's doing a good job.
	Anybody that's doing an honest job.
	Yeah. I was playing through Honest Hearts.
	Fallout DLC.
	And it actually really...
	I really love that DLC because it challenges you spiritually as to what the fuck you're doing as the courier.
	Yeah.
	And I was thinking about, like, it's got a distinctly Western bias.
	It's Christianity.
	Like, basically, your courier is either an atheist or a Christian.
	Yep.
	No other choices.
	But if I was playing an RPG set in Waterbenderland, or like, what's that Waterbender cartoon about?
	I don't watch that, I don't, I've never talked about it.
	I haven't seen it.
	In the Airbender?
	Airbender, last Airbender.
	That's it.
	would have absolutely zero problem playing an RPG in a Hindu type culture where it's like you go from being an atheist to being a faithful Hindu because we're you know it's about the source whatever you want to call it It's the same sort of religiosity there.
	And so, you know, Fallout being set in the southwest of America, you know, the Mormons are the obvious.
	Like, I'm a Catholic.
	Mormons are a bunch of fucking heretics.
	But I've known great Mormons.
	I've got zero problem.
	Like, I like the fact that you come away from that DLC with a Bible in your inventory.
	Yeah.
	And when I'm RPing Fallout, it's like, yeah, this is a major mental shift where my character reconsiders, should I be getting revenge on Benny?
	Yeah.
	Is that just?
	Or should I forgive?
	Like, if the burned man can forgive, can I forgive a guy that left me in a shallow grave?
	Yeah.
	And so I let Benny live, and then he gets crucified for it.
	Isn't that the crazy thing?
	If you forgive Benny?
	I didn't even know this.
	I didn't know this for eight years after getting the game.
	If you forgive Benny, he has a worse death.
	Isn't that a masterpiece?
	Isn't that a masterpiece, eh?
	I'm still discovering things.
	You know what?
	I might.
	So, yeah, I'm doing another playthrough of it.
	Because, like, what the fuck else am I going to play?
	But I might actually just do that playthrough of it, where I just fill it with, because there's a lot to add to it.
	Like, there's, I can tell, like, Nevada lore.
	I know a lot of the history of Nevada and there's a lot of, there's a lot of, like they touch, there's all of these little allusions to history.
	For instance, The Devil's Gullet is a reference to The Devil's Hole in Death Valley, which is actually northwest of Vegas, not southwest.
	But there's a species of guppy that lives there.
	Yeah.
	And there's only 200 of them.
	They have this one spot in Death Valley where they live.
	And that's it.
	That's all of them.
	So, yeah, I might do that.
	Like an RP of Fallout New Vegas as myself.
	But also with the lore of the games and the lore of the environment, all of that.
	And Annie says, my first cousin did a genetic test and found out he was 5% British.
	He also had some Italian and Portuguese blood.
	All the cartoons.
	You know what?
	And that's the thing.
	Ultimately, we are very, very mixed.
	It's not.
	I've been thinking a lot about group identity lately.
	And I agree with Jordan Peterson on it.
	What it boils down to is that group identity is identifying with the lowest common denominator.
	This is why I hate white nationalism.
	White nationalism is standing next to the fat idiot wearing a German army helmet that was made in China.
	Fuck that.
	That's not.
	Whatever white people is, it's not Matthew Heinbach.
	Fuck that guy.
	Culture should be something to aspire to.
	Not.
	And yeah, we are all mixed.
	We share common mythologies for God's sake.
	I mean, every culture, like there's, there is this Ur culture way back when that we all share common mythologies with.
	There is so much common ground.
	It doesn't mean that you bleach all the cultures, like multiculturalism is about getting rid of culture so you're a human resource.
	Yep.
	Anyway, all the cartoons nowadays are pure LGBTQP shit.
	That non-berry, non-binary lesbian ruined She-Ra.
	You know, The Expanse.
	Yeah.
	The Expanse actually does a good job.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I.
	Yeah.
	Okay, just me.
	I love the bisexual pirate ship.
	Yes.
	What's her name?
	The Russian chick?
	I don't know.
	It's like her whole crew just has orgies every night after being pirates together.
	I fucking love that.
	The.
	But it's never rubbed in your face.
	It's never made obvious.
	You have, who's the tough guy?
	What's his name?
	I don't know.
	Amos.
	Amos is bisexual.
	Never rubbed in your face.
	Right?
	It's not representation, it's science fiction.
	This is probably what things are going to look like.
	As opposed to She-Ra, where, yeah, they just rub it in your face.
	Non-binary lesbian She-Ra.
	Her favorite character in Star Wars was a shape-shifting female assassin in Attack of the Clones.
	Ended up dating and marrying a subordinate.
	I don't even know what that is.
	And cutting off her breasts.
	Video games are now gay bullshit.
	You know, one of the things I said about was The Last of Us part 2, where they had the transsexual character.
	Do it would have actually been really, really ballsy is to have a transsexual character that can no longer get the hormone supplements.
	Last of Us 2 Having a male-to-female transsexual character that with the zombie apocalypse could no longer get estrogen and was now growing a mustache.
	Yeah.
	It's like, yeah, I still identify as a woman.
	I feel like a woman, but there's no fucking, I can't get fucking estrogen treatment in zombie apocalypse.
	Can't even get razors.
	I don't know if Amos is bisexual, though.
	It's strongly implied.
	Or at least if he was a male prostitute for men.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's implied for sure.
	whether he liked it or not it's very uh it's it's up in the air yeah i mean he he likes he looks and catboys That's pretty clear.
	It's obvious that he understands that, You know, you could, uh, well, he empathizes with uh male prostitutes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that that are that are having sex with men.
	And he does allude to it when he's on earth as well, that he was in the rough trade for a while.
	Yeah.
	It's not clear that he likes men or anything like that.
	But it's implied that he has had sex with men.
	Yes.
	Under duress.
	I think it's implied that he's had sex with men under duress.
	It's not ambiguous if he enjoys it or not.
	But anyway, you know.
	It's interesting that he definitely has been a male prostitute, you know.
	The question being if he enjoyed it or not.
	There's always a certain level of enjoyment.
	That's why it's terrible.
	I don't know.
	I've never been forced to be a male prostitute, so I wouldn't know.
	there's no stripper that didn't somewhat enjoy her job that's a tough nut tough nut to crack See, one of my issues is with the over-labeling that's going on right now.
	yeah the oh my god i i i reach with the thing Oh my god, I'm pansexual.
	I'm not trying to engage in bi-erasure.
	Just have sex with people you think are sexy.
	Oh God.
	Just... Keep it like...
	Like, stop the labeling.
	Stop the fucking.
	The thing that annoys me about all the fucking sex shit is like, I don't give a fucking shit.
	How does this have to do with the power dynamics of Russia, China, and America?
	Yeah, like, and this is kind of what I'm saying about Amos.
	Is that, no, like, he had fun doing it.
	He maybe doesn't want to do it again.
	Like if you sat down with Amos and said, what sort of, what are you looking for in a relationship?
	Right?
	Well, I think with Amos, it's more like Amos is just like, was he a bisexual force to be pansexual?
	I got it wrong.
	He doesn't give a fuck a shit.
	He wants to fucking save the world, right?
	No, no, he wants to save an innocent.
	Yeah.
	He does, yeah.
	Even more than that, yeah.
	He, because he knows he's not innocent, and so he wants to protect innocence.
	And it's not that like he wasn't violently raped the entire time.
	Like, yeah, he doesn't have any trauma from it, per se.
	Oh, I don't know if I said that.
	He has destroyed innocence, but he doesn't have trauma.
	I wouldn't say that either.
	But I would say that the trauma is unnecessary to the task at hand, which is saving as many people as he can.
	It informs him.
	It doesn't.
	It doesn't define him.
	It informs him.
	It doesn't define him, right?
	And that's what I'm saying about the sexuality thing, which I'm so fucking sick of the labels for everybody.
	It's stop thinking about fricking labels.
	Well, yeah.
	Think.
	He's like, am I a pansexual demi-fucking whatever?
	He doesn't care.
	He's like, yeah, I had fun sometimes.
	I didn't have fun either times.
	Yeah, I was paid to do it.
	I did what I had to do.
	Like, you know what?
	If you're being paid to do it, it's never going to be a genuine relationship if you're paid to do it.
	Isn't that the beautiful thing about Amos?
	Amos is my favorite character in that series.
	He's brilliant.
	He's the most complex.
	Yeah, and he's just like, I'm doing what I have to do.
	He's always doing what he has to do.
	You know, he's like, I'm doing what I have to do to survive.
	But at the same time, like, that's what he says.
	But at the same time, it's not what he does.
	What he does is he's doing it.
	It's a 10 intelligence and an 18 wisdom.
	It's fantastic.
	he's like like I don't I'm not smart yeah Yeah.
	But at least I know what I'm doing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the guy says he's always doing what he has to do to survive, but really, he's doing what is best for humanity, right?
	Well, I don't know about humanity.
	Oh, no.
	Because, I mean, he doesn't have a side.
	He doesn't care about the Earthers, the Belters, or the fucking Martians.
	He's just like, this is what has to be done for the best for humanity.
	And I'll do it.
	And it's conflated with his idea.
	He's just doing what he's doing to survive, but not really.
	My favorite scene with him is where there's a survivalist in the woods.
	And there's basically a nuclear attack on Earth.
	And so he's escorting this girl that he's protecting.
	And she is relatively innocent.
	She was a wealthy girl that went on a revenge trip and then got locked in prison for it.
	That's fairly innocent.
	Like a blood vendetta revenge trip.
	It's like, man, you don't even know about murder.
	That's like, that was a, it was wrong, but it was justified.
	I've actually murdered people.
	Yeah.
	And so they find a survivalist.
	They're going to die if they don't get resources.
	And so he approaches the survivalist bunker, pretending to be civilized, with his hands up, knowing that the survivalist is not civilized.
	And that the innocent he's protecting is going to have to use her body modification superpowers to murder the evil man so they can steal his resources.
	And so he's even taking advantage of her.
	He is taking advantage of her because if he doesn't, they're both going to die.
	I don't think he knew that, though, going in.
	He was open to it turning out well, but he was like, it's like, we're in the churn, baby.
	Yeah.
	We know it's not going to turn out well.
	Isn't that the beautiful?
	I love that in that series, the churn.
	I was thinking about this the other day, that if somebody...
	We should explain the churn, though, to the audience.
	Well, the churn is when shit starts happening, man.
	And you're not one of the people moving the blades.
	You're one of the people in the churn.
	Yeah, and you gotta do what you do to...
	You do what you do.
	You might live.
	You might die.
	Everybody does what they does.
	Don't judge.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's basically that the game of survival has changed.
	That is the churn.
	Do you remember that bit when they're at the mansion?
	And the security guards come, it's like, oh, we want to requisition your food.
	And they tell them to fuck off without shooting anybody?
	And then they fuck off and they come back and murder like five people.
	Well, I was thinking about this, that if somebody, if shit gets as bad as my mom worries it's gonna get.
	Yeah.
	Somebody comes begging for food.
	Yeah.
	Do I be nice?
	Do I put rounds into them?
	Because they're gonna be back.
	Yeah.
	You know, Amos isn't trying to make the moral choice.
	He's trying to make the right choice.
	Okay.
	The choice that keeps him living.
	If he's still alive, then he can ponder morality.
	Which is the interesting thing I was trying to illustrate in that he says that he's doing the choice that he needs to do to survive, but he always makes the choice that is better for everyone, right?
	He survived.
	He doesn't survive merely for the sake of it.
	He's not a, he's not a rat.
	Yeah.
	He survives to protect other people.
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's the religious thing about Amos is that he's always trying to survive for himself, but he always incidentally makes the right choice for everyone.
	And he carries the moral weight for it.
	Yeah.
	He's like, he's.
	He doesn't make easy choices.
	No.
	The.
	What's the protagonist name?
	James?
	Yeah.
	James always does the right thing.
	He's actually a pretty flat character if you get right down to it.
	Yeah.
	It's actually really hard to write a paladin.
	James is a perfect example of that.
	Like, just a flat.
	He's always doing the right thing.
	Yeah.
	Coincidentally.
	Or is Amos as the.
	I don't know what the right thing is.
	Yeah.
	I know that if we don't do this, we're going to die.
	He's like lawful neutral, but somehow always does the right thing.
	Arguably.
	But he pays a moral cost for it.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	Most cultures have the story of a lone family that survived the flood in a boat.
	Oh, yeah, the flood myth is universal.
	That's that points to something a hell of a lot earlier than the Middle East.
	Even in Hindu.
	Yeah, it's in Hindu culture as well.
	Which, in Hindu culture, it's the same as Western culture.
	Okay, the Scythians, the.
	Is it Way of the World?
	No, it's not Way of the World.
	There's another guy that does some great history videos.
	Anyway, I can't remember right now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like these are universal myths.
	These are primordial myths.
	I'm pissed because that woman was born after Shiro was off the air.
	Oh my god, the girl writing Shi-Ra?
	Yeah.
	Was born after Shiro went off the air.
	Yeah.
	Ridiculous.
	Jacob in the Bible.
	I remember when his daughter was raped and her brothers tricked her rapist and his men to get circumcised.
	While they were healing, the brothers slaughtered the men.
	Boo Yakasha!
	Jacob was anger because they killed the rapist.
	But they used a religion practice to do it.
	Don't blaspheme God.
	Yeah.
	Alright, we've got 10 more minutes.
	Yeah?
	10 more minutes and we're shutting down.
	Okay.
	Let's go through these questions.
	That's them.
	That's it.
	We're done.
	We're done.
	Just Amadi.
	The lovely Amadi!
	The very spicy, seductive, oriental Ahmadi.
	Oh, no.
	I know.
	She's terrible.
	I've never even seen her.
	I just know she's sexy.
	You know, watching The Expanse...
	Okay, so this is more of a me problem than a you problem.
	But okay, do you know the saying, the turn of phrase that, like, nobody's more hardcore than a new convert?
	No, but sounds right.
	Uh-oh, Maddie's 20 pounds over her ideal weight.
	Yikes.
	Sorry, what was I saying?
	I forget.
	I'm kind of getting over the new convert thing.
	New convert, yeah.
	Being the hardcore.
	Yeah, being too hardcore.
	I want to be hardcore, but my mom won't let me.
	Yeah, the apostate.
	The apostate is always worse, you know, hates the religion.
	And I was an apostate from atheism.
	Yeah.
	And I'm kind of coming around to a healthy middle ground where I don't take religion seriously.
	If God wanted us to take religion seriously, he wouldn't have given us humor.
	Yeah.
	It's damn close to blasphemy, but it's something I'm adjusting to.
	Like, I did my really hardcore Catholic face for a while, and.
	You come back to it.
	Maybe not Catholic, but, you know.
	No, I'm still Catholic.
	It's not like I abandoned the church or anything like that.
	It's that I'm, you know, the same way a 21-year-old doesn't actually have all the answers, even though they think they do.
	Yeah.
	Sort of like that.
	And I'm really focused on like practical, useful questions.
	Yeah, no, it's interesting for me, like, looking, I'm researching homeschooling, right?
	And being like, I don't want my child to be brought up in a, you know, a Catholic or like a really hardcore religious schooling, but at the same time, I don't want to teach my child atheism.
	Not at all.
	No, you want them to be 50% atheist, 50% hardcore righteous.
	Well, yeah.
	You don't want them to be lukewarm.
	No.
	The Bible says this.
	Yeah.
	Either be icy cold or hot.
	Otherwise, if you're lukewarm, I'll spit you out of my mouth.
	Yeah.
	Be interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, one of my favorite Bible verses, by the way.
	God will spit you out of his mouth if you're fucking lukewarm.
	Yeah.
	Like, fucking, don't be Kimpool.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's moderate and there's moderate, right?
	Maddie says, I worry about Milo Ionopoulos.
	I don't even know.
	He was always like a weird, whatever kind of guy.
	Like, oh, super gay, out-right guy.
	Okay, whatever.
	And now he's like, oh, I'm not gay anymore.
	I'm doing the conversion therapy thing.
	Yeah, and I've said I don't really buy that.
	i don't really buy conversion therapy well i don't know if i do or not but i think that um i i i feel like he's Yeah, he is definitely a, you know, I don't want to say the word.
	He's a ping-ponging between things.
	Yeah, he seems to be.
	Which is what I'm saying about myself.
	Okay?
	I'm saying the exact same thing about myself.
	I went from hardcore atheist to hardcore Catholic.
	It's like, what the, who the fuck am I?
	I don't think you are.
	What the fuck am I?
	Were you ever hardcore atheist, though?
	I remember talking to you years ago, and you were, like, interested in the Christian religion.
	Interested in religion in general.
	Oh, you met me when I was beginning to soften up on the whole thing.
	Well, I was hardcore atheist when I was a teenager.
	That was a long time ago for me, I think.
	But yeah, I, oh man.
	As an 18-year-old, I was as hardcore atheist cult as you could get.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I kind of, I don't like that Milo is making this whole thing subject to public review.
	I think.
	Yeah, it seems very contrived, but...
	No, no, I'm not accusing him of being contrived.
	The opposite, actually.
	The opposite.
	I think he's being very sincere, but it needs to be private, and it's none of my fucking business.
	I actually am, like, I've met the guy, right?
	Had a beer with him.
	I really like the guy.
	I care about the guy.
	I think he's a good man.
	Okay, good.
	And I share Amadi's worry about him that what he's struggling with.
	He needs to.
	Whatever the hell he's struggling with, he needs to do that, Like he needs to be the best fucking Milo Ionopoulos he can.
	Yeah, not the best Milo I think he should be, or you think he should be, or Amadi thinks he should be.
	He should be the best Milo he can be.
	Yeah and, quite frankly, The activities of the portion of Milo that are his penis, are that like that's like who the fuck cares?
	Yeah.
	That's I'm not I'm not his insurer.
	I'm not his like I'm not doing a full spectrum analysis.
	I don't need to know about his dick.
	Yeah.
	Like that's you know that's between him and his partner and God.
	Yeah.
	It's none of my fucking business.
	But he's making it public business.
	But I think it's because the LGBT is supposed to be left wing and he was flamboyantly right-wing.
	Yeah.
	And then the flamboyant right-wing crashed into the side of a hill and so now he's bouncing in towards being hardcore straight and I don't think God made Milo Ionopoulos to be not flamboyant.
	I think God needs his flamboyant Milos.
	You think so?
	I mean, I don't know what the hell he should do with his dick.
	I don't know what I should do with my dick for crying out loud.
	So, I'm not...
	As soon as I figure out what I'm going to do with my dick, then I'll start giving advice as to what everybody else should do with their dick.
	How's that sound?
	It's wrapped up in all these identity issues.
	Whereas Amos is not wrapped up in identity issues.
	No, not at all.
	I think that's a healthier way to be.
	Yeah, it's moral failing.
	I'm out.
	Maddie, we don't know what his moral failings are.
	Amos's?
	No, no, Milos.
	Yeah.
	Like, a man might be vilified.
	Clearly he has many.
	I mean, just look at the guy.
	A man might be vilified in the media for cheating on his taxes.
	Yeah.
	Or celebrated by the media for giving to a charity.
	And when he gets to St. Peter and opens up the book of life, those are barely footnotes.
	It's interesting to me.
	Like, I'm saying, like, look at the guy.
	Clearly he has moral failings.
	And what do I mean by that?
	Like, I don't know if I can express that, but if I, when I watch him, I could just see that there's a torn, you know, there's a torn, I don't know where he's torn, but he, you know, he's struck, he's there.
	There's a struggling psyche there, right?
	Well, and if I were to, if I were to criticize him with the greatest of love and charity.
	Yeah.
	Okay, like, like, dude's my bro.
	I would say his greatest moral failings are over-promising, under-delivering on political ideas.
	Not his dick.
	I don't give a shit about his dick.
	Yeah.
	I don't give a shit who he sleeps with.
	I mean, he's never, he's never been me too'd.
	He's never been accused of any gross impropriety.
	Yeah.
	Which is better than most of us.
	Isn't it interesting, though, to me?
	Quite frankly, if he had fucked up.
	Yeah.
	If he had fucked up as much as the average man fucks up, it would be all over the fucking media.
	So he has actually been better sexually than most men have.
	Probably.
	His problem is not his dick.
	And I'm not even God it's just This is just me as a third-party observer looking at Milo, and homosexuality ain't your big flow.
	He's a struggling man.
	He struggles.
	The media life captures you, man.
	You know ultimately I'd say Milo's looking for the good Always in the wrong places, but he's looking for it.
	I'm not that worried about him.
	I'm concerned about him.
	I'm concerned that he's suffering because I like him.
	Yeah.
	And I don't want him to suffer.
	But I'm not super worried about him, morally speaking.
	That makes any sense.
	Yeah.
	Any more questions?
	We should wrap it up.
	Well, let's see.
	We got Orobell.
	The media is demonic.
	Oh, yeah.
	Media is fucking terrible.
	I used to think, oh, you know, we gotta reform it.
	Oh, man.
	I'm beyond that.
	When, when?
	Harm your local journalist!
	Fuck journalists, man.
	It blows my mind how bad it is.
	It's so bad.
	It's just so bad.
	There's nothing worse than the media.
	Yeah.
	Your neighbor is a very nice man, but clearly he only listens to the mainstream media.
	And it's so painful.
	It's so painful when you know people that are like they're good people, but they do not think outside the trusted sources.
	My neighbor is salt of the earth.
	Yeah.
	Blue-collar, fantastic human being.
	Yeah.
	Hates Donald Trump.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't know why he hates him.
	No, no, he just does.
	Yeah, he said that Donald Trump should be killed, and he should be banned off all of all media.
	Like, fuck his rights.
	For what?
	For nothing.
	He can't answer.
	Because of that thing.
	That thing that happened.
	That thing that the media told me to say.
	But I can't even remember.
	Father of lies.
	So.
	You know, one more reason to stand by Milo.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	You know, I'm going to.
	On blind principle, I stand by Milo.
	Whatever Milo's up to.
	Yeah.
	I stand by him.
	He's an honest fucking guy.
	Well, you know.
	He's maybe honest about the wrong things at the wrong times, but he's honest at least.
	Milo has fucking integrity.
	Yeah.
	Journalists do not you know what my My only criticism of Milo is like he's always seemed like it's not always 100% together.
	But yeah, you know, you say that that now that you say it, like, when has he ever been not when has he ever been when has he not when has he never not not been honest?
	Yeah, I can I can get behind that.
	I can't think of a time from from the beginning though, he seemed like a bit of a shyster and like he's never had he could you know what he could have easily been the best shyster.
	Yeah, instead of being a like instead of like no, I'm gonna be honest.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm gonna be honest.
	Yeah, yeah, he always seems like a bit of a shyster to me, but at the same time, I think about it as like when has he he's he when has he been dishonest?
	I can't think of a time, so yeah he's a child of God.
	Anyway, um let's shut her down.
	Got any final thoughts?
	Not at all.
	I think harm your local journalist is a god I hate journalists so much.
	I need to print.
	I'm gonna as soon as I get more ink for that printer, I'm gonna print off a whole bunch of those memes, just put them up around the city.
	Yeah, harm your local journalist.
	I don't know.
	Absolutely.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what to say about that.
	Anyway, guys, I okay, final thoughts?
	Be like Amos.
	Amos ain't smart.
	He's not virtuous.
	Well, he's not.
	He's not trying to be virtuous.
	He's not a saint.
	He's not a saint.
	But he does the right thing.
	Yeah.
	So do the right thing.
	As best you can.
	He does his best, that's for sure.
	Do your best.
	Carpe futurum sene traditum.
	This is the extremely handsome and fashionable Leo O'Rini out.
	We are done.

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