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Jan. 12, 2026 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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Violence ERUPTS In Minneapolis, Leftists Call For ARMED Resistance ft. Patrick Casey

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Well, thanks for hopping on, dude.
It's good to see you.
It's been a minute.
Can you give the people a quick intro, who you are, what you do?
Sure.
So to keep it really quick, I am a writer.
I've been published in Chronicles Magazine, the American Conservative Federalist, and I'm the host of Restoring Order.
It's a podcast.
You can go to PatrickCasey.com.
It's on Spotify.
It used to be on YouTube.
It was suspended, and yeah, just write.
Do political commentary, all that good stuff.
Let's go.
I love it.
Well, I want to just like, let's let it rip.
You're on Timcast.
You know the drill.
Do you think Civil War is imminent?
Because I know that's like, you know, a cliche at this point.
You know, people are just like, okay, here we go with the Civil War talk.
But I really am seeing two countries here.
I mean, people that are literally going up to Bovino who's like in a Target using the bathroom and like screaming, we don't want you here.
These sort of things.
Simply for the crime of trying to enforce immigration laws that are on the books Where is the off-ramp in that situation?
How does this not escalate further?
That's a good question.
I think there was no conceivable scenario in which Trump fulfills his mandate given to him by the American people to carry out mass deportations, and that the left just goes along with it. So there was always going to be, unfortunately, given the insanity of the left, some chaos involved.
I'm sure a lot of Democrats support the people literally out in the streets obstructing, the Rene Goods, the people obstructing, you know, to varying degrees of severity, these ICE officers and their deportation missions.
But it really isn't just like that radical, I don't know, 10th or something, but it's a very small amount of people that are willing to go out there and do that.
And what needs to happen is you need to arrest these people, which the Trump administration is doing.
You can't just arrest them for being out there.
They have the right to protest, right?
So you have to wait until they take things a little too far.
And as we've seen from the clips, as we've seen from the Trump administration posting the pictures, the faces, the names of people who have been arrested.
You know, specifically in Minneapolis, for going after and, you know, just kind of crossing that line.
You can see some of the footage outside of these detention facilities, Tate, where, you know, these guys are just waiting, you know, DHS officers, it's just deportation engines, federal agents generally, they're waiting for these scumbags to just like do the thing that allows them to haul them into the facility and to arrest them.
The feds basically need to win in that sense.
And it feels weird to say that as a right winger, but the Trump administration needs to win, probably without using the military, without doing the Insurrection Act.
We need to show that you need to respect federal officers and you don't have the right to impede them.
You don't have the right to harass them, to stalk them.
And, you know, eventually you arrest enough of these people.
And I think that, you know, that kind of sends the message.
And but we'll see.
I mean, there's there's really no telling where we're going.
There's, there's really no telling where we're going.
Yeah well, I guess, to add to that, I mean I, I agree, um.
Yeah.
Well, I guess to add to that, I mean, I agree.
Or on Mcintyre, he put some thoughts out.
Warren McIntyre, he put some thoughts out.
He was commentating on on a video where ICE was just making a routine arrest of you know, people that were impeding their, their operation, and of course they were met with a bunch of resistance, these sorts of things and the the thing he said it jumped out to me was like we've kind of joked around about it in the past, but we kind of do need a degree of reconstruction going on the United States, like we do need something sort of approximating that to truly sort of re-establish some common ground.
So it's not just two completely opposing factions, but just two parties, you know, proposing maybe disagreements on economic policy right, do you agree with this consensus?
I mean, because that's strong language, but I look at that and it's i'm not balking at that anymore yeah.
that's – so – Many people have noticed this division that, you know, even if we're able to, the Republicans are able to win elections, there are a lot of people out there who are, even if they're not in the majority, are just not going to, you know, agree to disagree at the end of the day. And I think the reason for that, a big part of that, is that there used to be a broad consensus or a broad center in American politics. You know, if you go back, people love bringing up the fact that, you know, Barack Obama,
it was either his initial campaign or his re-election campaign. I think it was as late as his re-election campaign. Barack Obama said that he believed marriage was a man and a woman. This is Barack Hussein Obama, right? And, you know, flash forward a few years later, then you've got Tucker Carlson on Fox News, saying that he believes that gay marriage is essentially a good thing. You know, it's like scariest, most right wing pundit. You know, Hillary Clinton supported a border roll, you have Biden with supporting the 94 crime bill that Was a good thing. I know,
you know, I see conservatives trying to own Joe Biden during when he was in office. The 94 crime bill was like pretty good. We believe in law and order. So that's just like there used to be a broad consensus. Now there isn't that broad consensus on like basic stuff like children cannot become and should not become transgender that, You know, we need to actually have some level of security, ideally robust security at the southern border.
And of course, law and order that, yeah, we support we need to support law enforcement.
We do not side with criminals, with illegal aliens over, you know, the good men and women in law enforcement, federal, state, local, whatever, who are just trying to enforce the law.
So the fact that we don't have a consensus on that means there's going to be some pretty severe polarization.
I don't think we're going to see, you know, actual civil war or anything of the sort.
But it just means that, you know, when we're trying to accomplish an agenda that was very popular, mass deportations were not exactly a secret that Trump was going to do that when he was elected.
That was a central promise to his campaign.
And so Trump needs to deliver that.
But, yeah, it's it's it really isn't a good sign for a country to not be able to agree on things that previously were.
you know, fairly consensus on both sides of the aisle. So it's really kind of, again, no telling where we're headed. Yeah, that was what really jumped out to me with the Rene Good shooting is, you know, a lot of people were saying, like, you know,
what drives a society where their middle aged women are going out and being foot soldiers for this, you know, this cause or whatever. And I look at that and I'm like, All of this started literally because Nick Shirley walked around and exposed like the most obvious fraud in history. Like it's like a scandal of utmost proportion. The fact where he scalped a Democrat governor. I mean,
that's how bad the fraud was. That's how all of this started. Like literally are willing to put their lives on the line for fraudsters,
for murderers, for rapists, like literally the worst aspects of American society. And they're willing to literally die for those people with kids at home. I mean, I know we're hitting on it, but like, again, I'm just, I'm just trying to figure out how do you get out of that? I mean, that is, That is brainwashing of the utmost proportion.
Yeah, you're right.
So those people are.
Unfortunately they're not.
They're not going anywhere.
Um and uh, you know you can't.
Uh, despite what some people on twitter would would like to have happen, you can't just lock people up for uh being a libtard essentially, and uh, as far as i'm aware, administration is not currently working us all uh, yeah.
Yeah, I wouldn't count on Congress introducing any legislation to uh to to fix that.
Maybe if we get rid of the filibuster, we'll see.
But um, in all, in all seriousness you know this is something Curtis Jargon has dealt with as well just the idea of like okay, even if you like.
we almost, yeah, we almost do have red and blue America, two pretty different countries in a way that, you know, even a few decades ago, the division was not this stark. And the things that people bickered over politically were not, like, basic civilizational, you know, things,
basic prerequisites for civilization, like having, you know, law enforcement. Having a border. So I don't know. Curtis Jarvin, one thing he will point out is look up denazification and what it took in Germany to totally expunge Nazism. And you say totally,
and it's like, yeah, I guess there's still some neo-Nazi biker gangs or something. So they're not really a serious force in German society. But what it took to totally stamp out Nazism in Germany was really extreme. And I don't think American conservatives really have the stomach for doing that to lives. And I think in any society,
you're going to have people that lean a little more liberal, a little more conservative. Again, so it's about trying to reestablish that center. And we just need political power at the end of the day. That's not enough. Trying to subvert and sabotage totally reasonable,
popular, you know, plans, right wing policy, you know, sort of platforms, but it's if you have power, and you're using it in the right way. And ideally, you know, on a long enough timeline,
it's You rack up enough wins, those people don't feel as emboldened, right? Because if the Rene Goods of America are just sitting at home and complaining on Reddit, then that's not really a problem. The problem is when the Rene Goods of America are going out and putting federal law enforcement in self-defense situations,
when they're ramming federal law enforcement with their cars. We're able to triumph, essentially, in Minneapolis. We're able to, DHS is able to pull off its operations successfully, And that people it sends a message that look, you can go out there and you're just going to get arrested.
Yeah, I think you have the right to protest, but anything beyond that which obviously, if you've seen any of the footage the, the freaks in Minneapolis are going well beyond um, but but yeah, there's a longer question tate uh, a broader discussion that needs to be had about you know what.
What is going to happen in this country um, when you know, even as the right wins uh, elements of the left grow increasingly desperate and, you know, turn to violence, terrorism and and these sorts of things.
The last i'll say on this is, you know, people notice that the resistance uh, if you remember that from Trump's first term uh, was not here after Trump won.
Yeah, you know, you had this in 2017.
You had just this wave of like, all of these, these.
You know liberals and like influencers, Democrat officials.
You know all of that, and it was that there was very little of that after Trump won, like a lot of institutions buckled to Trump um, you know tech like this, the business world and um, but the left.
That doesn't mean everyone gave up on the left.
It means that the left realized it was losing and the more radical elements became even more radicalized, and that's why you're seeing a lot of the stuff that you've seen.
That's where you saw, of course, the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk.
This is what you saw in the 60s and the 70s as well, you know, with the Weather Underground and um, the Black Liberation ARMY.
These like straight up left-wing terrorist organizations.
right? They did that because the 60s didn't turn into a straight-up communist revolution. There's a lot of, like, commie stuff in the 60s, but, you know, you had Nixon that won in, what, 68? You know, from that point on, the leftists were like, wait, this wasn't what's supposed to happen. So they turned to terrorism. And you're seeing that again now. Yeah. I've always made that point. I'm like, the reason they're doing this, the reason that they do kill Charlie Kirk is because in a way they do feel backed into a corner. So in a weird way,
it's an indication that we are winning. But it just, you know, furthers the point that like, this is why you have to really stamp out every level that you have legally available to you. Because I mean, that's sort of the thing, like, we're talking about the two different things. I kind of want to almost steal, man, maybe the people on the right that are a little uncomfortable with what's going on, because I actually understand it. I mean, we're on Rumble. This audience especially has been tapped into the political zeitgeist for a long time. They,
you know, experienced the Biden winner. They were tapped into the news cycle every day. I can understand the impulse to be almost hesitant when you see the federal government making these, you know, broad overtures, making these, you know, these, you know, know, decisive decisions, because we're so used to that apparatus being weaponized against right wingers.
It's been this way for 60, 70 years, even when Republicans were in office, it's still in many ways, this entire apparatus was pointed towards, for all intents and purposes, oppressing the right.
I mean, making it more difficult for us to enact our means, these sorts of things.
So I can actually kind of, to a degree, understand why you're seeing a lot of these commentators on the right, sort of stick their head up and kind of counter signal, for lack of a better word, some of these actions the Trump administration is making.
What would your sort of pitch be to those people?
Maybe not pitch, but what would your sort of message be towards those people who are like, I don't know.
What if they turn this back around on us in four years?
Are we sure this is the correct direction to go?
So here's what I think would happen.
Let's say worst case scenario.
You know, Vance gets the nomination. Vance getting the nomination, so that's not the worst case scenario. Vance gets the nomination. Whoever gets the nomination loses on the Republican side and you get President Newsom or something. President Newsom is going to gut ICE, is what he's going to do. The likelihood of him keeping ICE and deploying ICE agents to harass Um, I guess, I guess normal Americans, it's just that, that,
that isn't what ICE does basically. Yeah. And so I, I, I wouldn't worry about that. I mean, I understand, especially if you have more libertarian inclined members of the audience, you know, there are people that are part of the MAGA coalition to be sure, some of them. Um, it's just not, it's not going to happen. Also. The Democrats will, like, do what they can to screw with the right, but they're not going to be sending ICE agents to, like,
Cunt right-wing people down because they posted something critical of, of the Democrats or something online that that's just not really what it would look like um, getting you know they're they really want to want to gut ice?
Because they'll, they'll be afraid that.
You know, if they, if they keep ice the same like huge level of you know, with as many ice agents with, with all of the funding that ICE has received under Trump thanks to the big beautiful bill that it's going to be, you know that in the next Republican administration they're going to use it.
So, like the next time the Devs get power, they're going to try to to cut ice.
Whether or not they abolish it is remains to be seen.
Those calls are obviously uh, sort of resurfacing here.
Um, but I think that I think on some level, the Democrats understand that they have to, like, at least pretend. To be doing border security. So I think they would gut ice, but they would say they're making it more efficient. They're just saying, oh, we're not using this. So I'm actually not worried about that. Now, there's a separate argument that, you know, seeing the feds rolling, you know, like a few hundred deep. I mean, overall, there are thousands of federal agents in Minneapolis, which, as far as I'm concerned,
is a good thing. Right. Given how lawless and anarchic it's become. Um, there's an optics concern, though, right? Because we have to win, you know, elections, we have to win midterms, we have to win. So you know, you can, you can't just go like super hardcore and ignore public opinion. And, you know, there's some evidence that public opinion is kind of, you know, people kind of soured a bit on the deportations. But you know,
that is what Trump was elected to do. So and it's necessary for, for the country. So I'm a little more sympathetic to that one is, you know, is this going to hurt us? Long-term, politically. And that's why I think it's important. Ultimately, you do need to dispatch ICE agents to go. Because these guys are not just going out. When they converge on a city like this, they are prioritizing. It doesn't mean they're only going for the criminals, but they're prioritizing the straight-up harding criminals. This guy, Jonathan Ross,
the hero ICE patriot who shot in self-defense, Rene Good, when he previously was dragged 300 feet Tate. And his arm was, Was because he had tried to break into the window of of the car the guy wasn't getting out.
You know law enforcement stuff.
His arm was caught in like the jagged broken glass.
He needed 33 stitches and you know what this illegal that he was trying to get and I think they did get eventually uh, was a convicted child molester.
So like wow, when they're sending the feds in, these are, these are the people, this is the scum that Renee Good and these other delusional you know Anti-ice libtars are, are trying to keep literally on the streets, keep in our country, and it is totally despicable.
Know, Anti-ice Libtars are are trying to keep literally on the streets, keep in our country, and it is totally despicable.
So I think, at the end of the day, these deportations are something that you need to have done uh, but at the very least, we want to minimize uh, you know, there's going to be some friction right, there's going to be a little chaos.
Uh, we're trying.
We don't want to lean into that too much.
Uh, on social media, you know, official government twitter accounts probably shouldn't highlight um, protesters getting getting owned by uh, you know, pepper spray or something of the sort, even though, even though I like it, but I can, you know, we'll see the clips from other accounts.
Yeah so uh, we just gotta.
I think the optics concern is is good, and also, the last thing i'd say is we also have to work toward um, you know, during operation, Wet Bath.
which prior to this was the biggest, you know, mass deportation campaign in American history, there was a 1 to 10 ratio of someone who was deported, like, physically removed from the country and people who self-deported. Why? Because the other illegals are like, Like, holy cow.
Like, and I think that's part of Trump's tactics.
Yeah.
If you're in a city and you see like thousands of ICE agents and it's literally the only thing people are talking about in American media.
Yeah.
You bet.
If you're an illegal immigrant, you're getting the hell out of there.
I've seen like libs who are not illegal saying like, I'm getting out of Minneapolis.
I'm obviously illegals are, are, are scared as well.
Um, so we, we want there to be mass deportations and, uh, a lot of that is going to happen obviously through, uh, self deportations.
The last thing I'll say is we don't have to physically remove all of them.
Putting on like a big scary show is, you know, it might spook voters a little bit, but yeah, it's, it's helping get these people out on their own.
which is the ideal way of doing it. You don't want to have to physically call every one of these, you know, I don't know how many tens of millions of illegals out of the country. And other things like E-Verify, other things like making it harder for illegals to, you know, get driver's licenses, jobs,
these sorts of things. I know a lot of this happens at the state level, but these sorts of measures need to happen in conjunction with the physical removals that ICE so far has done a pretty good job of doing. You know what's not politically prudent? Is if you take your time and you're a little slower on these things and they start having kids and they stay in the country and they vote. Like,
that's much more politically inexpedient than just, like, ripping the band-aid now. You take, like, five points off in the polls. You can make that back up by the midterms. Because there's something to be said. I mean, other guests have, you know, mentioned this on the show. It's like, look, the American news cycle spins very fast. It's a hamster wheel. So people will get adjusted to the new standards, so to speak. So it's like, as you raise the ante, Given enough time, people get used to that. And then you have the, again, to spook people,
you would have to raise the ante again. Because this is the point I've made. Part of the reason people are so dissatisfied, not everybody, but a proportion of the base is dissatisfied with Trump's performance on immigration so far, is because they got used to the new elevated standard. I mean,
I make this point all the time. We're at net negative migration. How crazy is that? Five years ago, if you advocated for net negative migration on a conservative panel, you would have gotten tossed off and called a white supremacist or something. And then now that's the official policy of the United States government. And it's well overdue. In many ways,
we probably ran out of time 15 years ago, so it's well overdue. We kind of had to stop. It's easy for people, like Zoomers especially, I mean, because I was 14 when Trump came down the escalator. I only know politics in the context of Trump. So maybe it's important to look back and say, even compared to Trump 1, hey, we've moved the football like 20, 30 yards down the field. If we just keep with this momentum. We're going to be okay. We're actually going to win. I mean, again,
This is sort of reorienting this entire apparatus.
It takes more than you know, six months or nine months, or however long we are.
We're in a year now.
Um, we have three years left.
Vance is in decent shape, or you know, the Republican Party in general is poised at least be competitive in 28 like, let's, let's just take, take our time, because again and then you'll have these people.
Um, it's a lot of people on the left too where they're like critical of the optics and the shock and all, but then they're also like complaining about how the mass deportations are too slow.
I'm like, what did you think this was going to look like?
I got clipped by media matters because I said like, uh, you know, when the podcast bros were like wow, these ice videos, they look pretty bad.
Like I don't know, this seems a little too brutal, and I just said like, How, what did you think?
What did you think an ice operation looked like?
Do you think these people are just going to comply?
These are literally hardened criminals.
Of course it's going to get a little like ugly.
That's just how this works.
And then they clip me, as if this was supposedly like i'm some crazy radical.
It's a crazy thing to say.
How could you?
Yeah yeah, so it's just like.
I know you're seeing the same stuff and it's just.
It's just like let's stop.
And yeah, there's a lot of idiocy online.
Uh, it is what it is.
Look it yeah no, look.
During the first Trump term.
We Trump has done more in one year than he did in his first term, and that's what a lot of people have forgotten.
Also uh, no one was talking about most of these issues.
certainly not at the national political level. In 2012, when Romney was challenging Barack Obama in one of their presidential, you know, one of the debates, the moderator asked Mitt Romney, what would you do about, you know, all of these illegals in the country or, you know, some equivalent, you know, something along those lines. And he said he advocated for self-deportation. Now we hear that and we say, well, yeah, but that's, you know,
just you have to do something to make these people self-deport. Garnered, you know, immense, you know, created a lot of controversy. Even Reince Priebus, Who was the chair of the RNC at that time.
He denounced those comments as, and I quote, heinous.
Um, so this is, this is the pre-trump GOP.
And yeah, you zoomers out there, especially you younger ones, I know you get it Tate, but uh, some of them have just all they've known politically is Trump.
So they're like, why is it?
Why isn't Trump opened up a portal to Agartha yet?
It's like, well, you know that's a salient question, one of his campaign promises.
Yeah, you know, maybe we wait till 28 with Vance and he, he will deliver something uh, probably something like that on the on the campaign trail.
But it um yeah, people just uh, get really accustomed things.
Things change for the better and then they become accustomed to that as as the new normal and then they just become, they resume their uh, you know high expectations and you know it's okay to have high expectations.
You just have to be realistic.
There are a lot of things that I would like Trump to do that he's not going to do.
I would like an immigration moratorium or some kind of legislation that would considerably limit legal immigration into this country.
because a lot of the bad stuff that happens through immigration happens regardless of whether the people come in legally or illegally. Look at Minneapolis. When they're busting these fraud rings, Most of the Somalis who get charged are U.s citizens.
These are not people that like should have been had had that offer to become citizens in the first place.
Yeah um, so I, you know there's there's stuff that we can be critical of with Trump, but you just got to remember things have moved very far in the right direction.
There's a lot of good stuff happening, and there are people online that are trying to turn you against Trump because selling outrage porn is the only way that they can stay relevant as influencers.
So you people, you know watching this in the audience, I would encourage them to just kind of be on the lookout for that are these people.
A lot of these people are are trying to lead you astray.
They're trying to turn you against Trump um, because they view they're they're more concerned with their own career as as an influencer.
Um yeah, so it's.
but yeah, no, things are going pretty well overall. There's a lot that needs to happen in the remainder of Trump's second term. But like I said, in his first term on basically every major issue on immigration, right, ended the border crisis almost overnight. And, you know, people don't give him really credit for that. It's, I guess, just once you solve a problem that no one's talking about it anymore. But yeah, he spent four years during his first term, like trying to figure Handle on the southern border and he just, you know, by the end he figured out what to do. Okay, well, like by, you know,
week one of this term, he basically solved the problem. We've got net negative migration, as you pointed out. He secured the single greatest increase in immigration enforcement funding in U.S. history. He's taken an axe to this anti-white sort of civil rights bureaucracy. He's done the most damage to anti-white discrimination and similar policies since these policies were introduced in the 60s. You know, For all.
Everyone wants to talk about Reagan and Nixon, these sort of anti -deep state, you know, like meritocracy figures, I guess, although Nixon was the last of the sort of the Great Society presidents, But they did nothing even remotely approaching what Donald Trump has done to combat this insane race communist.
communist, uh, bureaucracy that's, that's, you know, festered in the, in the American government.
So there's, and there's a lot of other great stuff that's happened just in the first year.
And I'm sure there's plenty, plenty more to come.
that was so funny. The clip the other day with Trump where he was just kind of like off this, you know, he just instinctually understands these things because he was just like kind of throwing the idea around with with the anti-white racism sort of how to combat it. And he's just like. Yeah, yeah. They're just, like, Really getting roughed up out there like he.
He doesn't have these like elaborate political philosophies and like these nerdy, like wonky, you know policy institutes that he's reading.
He just instinctually understands a lot of these issues right away.
Sometimes the policy comes out, you know a little sloppy sometimes, but it's like again, you just look at these things, you look at the record, you look at the wins we've had and you're like this is just clearly someone who instinctually understands these things.
This is clearly someone who um, is able to assemble a team that's directionally correct and I just don't really understand why you would throw a.
You know something in the spokes other than, like you said, that's just kind of self-interest almost, and this is also interesting when Trump won.
I didn't understand this impetus from a lot of people, a lot of really, you know, guys that I respect and like a lot, where they were saying, like, look, the conservative movement is not poised to govern, they're not poised to lead. And I was like, What do you mean? Like, you know, Trump, like, this team he's assembling is fantastic. I didn't realize he was talking about everyone else. I didn't realize that they were talking about, like, as soon as we are in a position to lead, suddenly we would lose faith in ourselves to wield power, and people would get, like, suspicious or skeptical,
and it would just turn into a massive dogpile. And that, in many ways, is what's happened. But, I mean, that's why Trump, it's great that he's president, because that gives us something to rally around. But, yeah, with that, Pat, I want your final thoughts, and more importantly, where people can find you for more. Great. Final thoughts. Well, you really can't respect the officers who are going out and doing this work enough. They really, you know, if you know any of them,
you know, buy them a drink or something, basically, because these people understand, especially in the aftermath of the Jonathan Ross shooting, justified shooting of Rene Gold, that they're risking their reputations. I mean, his family basically had to go into hiding. You know how insane people on the other side are. They're risking, you know, obviously they're putting their lives on the line. They're risking their safety. You know, they're risking, you know, dad not coming home. You know,
it's crazy stuff. And also they're risking the potential for, you know, serious legal problems in the event that whenever there's a subsequent Democrat administration. So these guys and gals, because I guess some of them are women too,
deserve all of our respect. They deserve praise on social media. That's what little we can do. But I know people involved in this sort of work. And yeah, they're on social media. It's good to see that there are people out there that don't hate them. So we just definitely have to let that be known. Yeah,
that's basically all I have here. So yeah, people can go to PatrickCasey.com. They can follow me on X at RestoreOrderUSA. And that's also my Instagram username. I'm newly on Instagram. I made one in 2020 and was banned in 24 hours. Not even for anything I posted. Just like,
hey, there's this Brightland guy on. I'll get this guy off. But now I'm on there. Let's go. I appear to be lasting. He's got some good reels on there. Unk's still got it. Unk has still got it. Well, Pat, thank you so much for hopping on, man. We'll see you soon. Thank you, Tate. Alrighty. Well, that was a great Pat Casey. That was fantastic. It's so true. The incentive structure on the right for the longest time has bended towards contrarianism, has bended towards nitpicking,
these sort of things. It's totally justified. I'm not downplaying that. But Pat laid out pretty well. Things are Directionally correct. Things are moving in the right direction. Mainapolis. I agree. If we can mop this up without having to completely break everything,
that's great, because we still have to win elections. It's unfortunate, but it's true. With that, we're going to get the raid for DeVorey Darkins going. Surge, I don't know if you want to get that fired up. I'll wind down the show here. We're a minute over time. Thank you very much for watching on this beautiful,
beautiful Monday. Great. Great to be back and we'll have some more exciting stuff over the week heading for you. We got a TimCast IRL tonight at 8pm. Be there or be square. Follow me on X and Instagram at RealtateBrown. Come hang out. We're having a great time as always and we're going to send you all over to DeVoreyDarkins and you guys can go hang out with them. With that,
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