MAGA REBELS Over Trump Fox Interview, Ann Coulter Goes OFF ft. Ann Coulter
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This week it's on something kind of tangenti related to what we're talking about.
And that is I read all of Virginia Jiffra's book, Nobody's Girl.
And it is so much more.
She was one of the most vocal and articulate spokesmen of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
And it's shocking.
It's really, really shocking, which I just finished it when I see the headline.
Jelaine Maxwell says new prison cell.
Fantastic.
So, you know, this is another great thing Trump is doing for his MAGA base, which I absolutely cannot understand.
These emails that were released today, I mean, the Democrats are so desperate to tie Trump to Epstein.
I don't think those are particularly implicating.
But the fact that Trump refuses to rule out pardoning Jelaine Maxwell, when you read, you don't have to read the book, read my column.
It's going up later today to see how intimately involved she was, not only in procuring the girls, but in the really disgusting molestation.
And it was Trump's decision to move Jelaine Maxwell to this minimum security prison where she's having such a wonderful time.
I don't understand that.
I mean, the assumption among every, I've been following this case since it first broke in Palm Beach, long before the national media had it.
I did get Bill O'Reilly to talk about it, and that was it.
This was back in 2006.
But the assumption among people who have been following this is that it's not Trump, that young girls don't really seem to be his type, even back when he was a Democrat, but that it's his donors.
But I don't know, this is to have to snub your nose on something this important to the MAGA base.
I mean, I think as a lot of people have been saying, including Tim Poole, this is so going to destroy Republicans in the midterms.
Now, let's get to what we're really talking about.
It's a lot of this, you're just seeing people, the vitriol from the base.
And it's just, there does seem to feel, it feels like there's a bit of a distance from the admin officials and the base, which didn't seem to always be there, especially in like campaigns.
It seems like the Trump administration's super or the Trump campaign is super reactive to the base.
And then as soon as we get into, you know, into office, a bit of a gulf erupts.
Now, I got to say, before, and like I'm a huge fan that I've never done this before on an interview.
I'm a huge fan.
My family was like so excited that you're coming on.
So I'm glad we got you because this story, I couldn't think of anyone better than Ann Coulter to break down.
I wanted to ask before we get into the meat and cheese here, with the coming from media background, a lot of people were saying the Laura Ingram interview was like a bit of a hit.
They were saying, oh, well, you know, she set him up with some of the questions or maybe it was adversarial.
I mean, did you get that sense at all?
I mean, I'm sure you have a relationship with Laura, but I don't know.
No, my sense is more that expectations for Fox News hosts are so low.
Are so unbelievably low.
I mean, one of the things I was going to say about this is we've been having to reel Trump back on this from 2015.
He was constantly going out, and this is when there were like three people working for him.
It was, well, me secretly sending things into Corey Lewandowski and Stephen Miller.
And you can get him to turn the stuff around pretty quickly.
Like you say, the campaign was much more, well, he needed our votes back then.
But he was constantly, you know, wandering off the reservation talking about, oh, and we need, you know, we need workers out in Silicon Valley and, you know, hospitality.
They need workers.
They need workers.
And then you'd have to reel them back right before, and this is right back to Fox News.
Right before my book came out, Adios or no, in Trump We Trust.
It was in 2016.
It was the year before Adios America about immigration.
They got me banned from all media because it was about immigration, everything, everyone's saying now.
Right before In Trump We Trust came out, literally that day, Trump was being interviewed by Hannity at the border.
And I forget exactly which part of this he came out for, but I think he said he would consider amnesty and he'd do a trade on amnesty.
This is when he's still running for office in 2016.
So we've, and during some of the Republican debates, he started talking about how, oh, we need workers.
And then he'd have to, and his campaign would put out a press release clarifying, i.e. taking back everything he said.
So he's always been very soft on this.
You would think by now it had been, it's this, this one little thing has been beaten into him enough.
Americans need the jobs.
Americans are good workers.
Americans are being sold out.
And I'll get back to why Americans are better workers.
But for now, I wanted to say I spoke at Institute for ISI.
No, Intercollegiate Studies Institute.
I always want to start with Institute, which is right near you guys.
Anyway, it was this weekend.
It was all these student journalists.
And the gal from Stanford was particularly interested in why Trump wasn't cutting back on Chinese students.
And she told me the Stanford campus is at least 30% Chinese nationals.
And all these American students at Stanford University, one of our premier universities, majoring in computer science.
They can't get jobs.
They're being undersold by the H-1B workers.
And their theory, and I don't know enough about this to know whether it's true, but I don't know.
A Stanford undergrad is smarter than I am.
They think it's because Trump is worried about the rare earth minerals we need from China.
Now, if true, I think he ought to get that message out through the grapevine.
Well, I mean, I remember this was the whole brouhaha around last Christmas where, you know, a few figures on the right were coming out and saying like, oh, Americans are lazy and it's like intrinsic in our culture, which is just ridiculous because I'm like, we can look up on the moon and see a flag up there.
It's our flag.
So that being said, let's just say we grant like Bessant came out this morning.
He was saying, look, you know, we have a few, few different industries that obviously haven't been on shore in a very long time.
So we need to bring in some experts to train the local workers on how to get this done, which I reject wholeheartedly.
But let's even grant that.
Let's just, for the sake of argument, let's grant that.
My question is, how do we guarantee the workers are compliant with H-1B standards?
Because go back to December, everyone was posting all these listings from like public databases showing that we were bringing in like hundreds of thousands of workers from India to work like janitor gigs.
Like it was absolutely ridiculous, the amount of scamming going on.
So I'm like, look, first of all, I hate the taste of Turmeric.
So I don't even know if I want them here anyway, even if it were like, you know, like monster workers.
There's photos of them crawling out of windows to like pass the answers to someone.
We live in a high, or we used to, I hope we can get it back.
America is a very traditionally a high trust society.
And when you're letting, oh, look at the scores this person got on these tests.
Yeah, well, the odds are they're probably cheating.
Right.
It's funny that Vesant said that because, or Besant, sorry for mispronouncing his name, I like him.
Because there it is, another example of Trump goes out and says something stupid about bringing in foreign workers and everybody around him has to rush out.
And well, what he meant was, but you're, you're, you're right.
Will they go back?
And you also reminded me, one, among the many ways H-1B workers harm Americans, it is, of course, taking American jobs.
All these American kids are told, major in a STEM field, major in computer science, major in mathematics.
Oh, you'll be set for life.
That's so great.
And then, oh, sorry, your job went to an Indian, a low-priced Indian.
But also the Indians and the Chinese and the H-1B workers come in and then they bring their elderly parents so they can instantly go on Social Security.
They can bring the whole village in whom you'll be paying for, America.
I think we've like invented new castes of Indians just in America alone, like in Silicon Valley.
I mean, like, for example, and I totally agree with your prior point where like Besson, yeah, like they have to come out and kind of smooth over everything.
And then we can talk about Gnome's comments later, obviously.
But like to your point with the H-1B, it's like, okay, yes, they're taking jobs, but they're also, and this is a very valid concern to have, is they're changing our communities.
I mean, there's all across the United States, I grew up outside of Memphis, Tennessee, a very American place.
It's primarily black and white.
It's been that way for its entire existence.
The suburb I grew up in, I was looking at the elementary school I was zoned to, and FedEx is headquartered right outside, right outside of this school.
So FedEx has brought in all these H-1B workers.
They're battery farming, like Indians, basically.
And the demographics of this elementary school have radically swung from primarily being a black and white school to like 80% Asian.
And if you break that down, it's mostly South Asians.
And so it's like, yeah, the jobs taking the jobs is, I think, the primary concern, obviously, because that impacts people directly.
But even the changing, like the demographic changing of some of these communities that are like around these major headquarters, that's a very valid concern as well.
Well, that's pretty much the theme of my book, Adios America.
People will talk about these other things, Americans losing jobs, the welfare.
They never really talked about the child, right?
But no, I mean, every we're allowed to.
Not only is our culture objectively better than every other culture and country around the world.
It works.
It glistens.
We are the freest country in the world.
No other country comes close.
Everyone we bring in makes us less free, makes our culture different, makes us less of a high trust society.
You can take in little, you know, little bits of immigrants.
It's like, you know, putting a spice on a meal.
You have a nice filet mignon, put a little salt on it.
But if all you're getting is a huge chunk of salt, that's not the same recipe.
And it absolutely changes our culture when we're talking about some little pissant culture in the middle of the ocean where they're still running around in loincloths and haven't invented the wheel.
Oh, be careful.
Don't interrupt the indigenous culture.
We must protect it.
Okay, we've got the best culture in the world and we're not allowed to protect our culture.
No, I'm totally with you.
It is the culture that's being changed.
But it's to satisfy the big donors who want the cheap labor.
I mean, think of this.
This has been a problem in our country since the beginning.
The Supreme Court has held that over and over again.
Constitutionally, legally, it is preposterous to apply that to illegal aliens.
It is apparently going to go before the Supreme Court.
I hope they follow the law and not, oh, it's been around for a while.
We don't want to upset expectations.
But it is at least true that Congress and the president could absolutely pass a law and say this is not what the 14th Amendment means.
And the president, as long as he is president, could use an executive order to do that.
One other thing on the anchor babies.
Don't be fooled by studies claiming more Americans are on welfare.
More Americans are accepting SNAP benefits.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Overwhelmingly immigrant-headed households, illegal immigrant-headed households, most of all, are massive consumers of welfare, but they said, but it's for the baby, the anchor baby.
Yeah, it's information from CIS, Center for Immigration Studies.
They do great work.
And the data they use is from the government.
So they always get, it's like all they're doing is just filtering it so you can read it.
And the data they put out, 56% of foreign-born led households are on some form of welfare, whatever that is, versus I think it was about 43% of Native Americans.
So it's like the whole argument that like immigration is our strength for like, you know, insert reason here.
You just look at that one data point, it just completely falls apart right in front of your very eyes.
I mean, it's absolutely insane.
And I want to take that and pivot into Kirsty Noam's comments this morning.
It was absolutely insane.
I'm sure you got a good look at it.
The audience for, I mean, we discussed it early in the show.
For those who didn't see it, the base is obviously like crashing out over this.
This is the problem with this class of conservatives that's still around.
They're still very present.
And obviously here, they're flexing their muscles is they just divide the world between Americans and future Americans.
And there's nothing actually distinctive about being an American.
And this was one of the last things Charlie Kirk sort of posed to the American people and specifically to the conservative movement.
One of the last questions he asked, I mean, you can go look on his Twitter.
One of the last questions he asked is, what is an American?
Like, if we're going to, if we're going to, you know, build out this deportation, you know, infrastructure and we're going to tighten our borders up and we're going to like sort of re reconstitute how we bring immigrants into the country.
The question that needs to be answered is, what is an American?
Is it paperwork?
Like, that seems to be what Kirsty Noam's suggesting.
And she's like, don't worry, we did some paperwork.
They're good now.
And yeah, the base obviously is clued in here, but I mean, I want to ask you that question.
That's what De Tocqueville wrote because he said back in, you know, London, they're all fainting of the vapors and having, you know, giving tea to one another.
Whereas American women, they were willing to, you know, saddle up and cover the frontier with their man.
And that's why he said American women had such strong backbone and were so much preferable to European women.
I would say within the base, but then even within this broader, sort of vaguely right-wing movement.
Obviously, there's like the podcast bros, these sorts of people that have kind of piled in once they saw which way the wind was blowing coming into this last election.
Some people, I feel like, look, with Trump, I think the utility of Trump has always been that he consistently moves the football down the field.
Like you talked about in 2016, all these people wanted mass amnesty, da-da-da-da-da-da.
Now mass deportations are at least on the table.
And that's primarily because of Donald Trump.
But you have a lot of people that are trying to, it seems like, just call it like MAGA dead, dead in the water, saying, oh, MAGA's dead.
Some people are saying, oh, this is just Biden with a stronger border, these sorts of things.
I don't know.
I still feel like Trump is still a viable.
I think if people, I don't think you've heard you use the term chimp out.
I think if the base chimps out enough, you can sort of steer Trump in the right direction.
Because at least it seems like the admin is in some way responsive to the base.
He betrayed us on the wall on the deportations and DACA and he tried to betray us on amnesty.
Really pretty spectacularly, term one.
And I started, as you just said, sort of gently giving him constructive criticism, like showing up in the Oval Office and screaming at him for 15 minutes.
And then I just gave up after he signed his third spending bill with no wall funding.
He's been fantastic so far.
But I mean, the most important point is MAGA doesn't die.
MAGA is the winning formula.
Any Republican who takes that formula will do well.
I mean, I suppose unless they have some horribly embarrassing scandal, like being stupid like Christine No.
But MAGA doesn't die.
And that is what part of what really needs to be preserved.
I think JD Vance is absolutely true blue MAGA.
There are a few others.
Marco Rubio is another one who's completely flipped.
Real.
He's like a joke figure in my book, Adios America.
Man, has he come around?
So MAGA is alive and well.
And yeah, I think the base does need to put pressure on Trump.
I mean, for one thing, I'll give you an example of when I think MAGA pressure worked.
I think a lot of the base, I was among them, did not want us to strike Iran.
That was back this summer.
And, you know, because we were just worried, okay, we strike them, then we have troops, and then they attack the troops.
And then, oh my gosh, but now they're firing on Americans and there we are involved in another ground war.
But I think you can't run the experiment twice, but I think it was because of the MAGA pushback, including from Charlie Kirk.
The one thing I'm sort of before I like fully, because you know, a lot of people are coming on glued on, specifically on Twitter.
And a lot of it's a valid crash.
I'll concede that.
I'm still waiting for Stephen Miller to weigh in because from my perspective, he seems to be the guy that has the sort of clearest understanding of the immigration issue and where it's gotten us.
I mean, maybe you could explain Stephen Miller's role because it seems like his role has really expanded in this second term.
Just by throwing out illegals, just by not admitting a bunch of poor, dysfunctional people from the most disparate cultures imaginable to ours don't speak English.
I mean, the money just being wasted on the translators in court, on the arrest, the crime, the jails, the English as a second language classes, and we're not even getting to the welfare benefits and the food stamps and the housing aid.
And oh my gosh, they're all getting Obamacare.
Okay, just that gives us so much money.
And on housing, I mean, throw a problem at me and I'll tell you why immigration makes it better.
You get rid of all these immigrants who either committed fraud on their legal immigration applicants, like, oh, for example, Ilan Omar, and all of the illegals and wow, a lot of housing opens up.