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Oct. 31, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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Jamaica Hurricane Predicts POLE SHIFT, The END Is Nigh w/ Ian Crossland & Seamus Coughlin

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tim pool
A category five hurricane just slammed into Jamaica and Haiti.
It's left a trail of devastation.
And this is the third most powerful Atlantic hurricane by pressure.
It's tied for third place, with many people suggesting that this could be indicative of a pole shift.
Many of these people are not the biggest accounts and it's a small community, but it's fun to talk about anyway.
There's also reports of a potential solar micronova, which will wipe out all of humanity.
And I know it has nothing to do with politics or what's actually going on in the ground, but every once in a while, it's fun to, I don't know, doom prophesize.
But there are some interesting, I guess, circumstances around these major hurricanes and the trends that we've been seeing with many accounts growing in popularity suggesting that we may be facing a major pole shift.
That means the northern hemisphere may the planet may move.
You might end up with Florida in a winterized, in a colder climate.
I mean, I have no idea how crazy it's going to get.
We've had these conversations quite a bit.
Unfortunately, our guest, while exploring the hurricane to prove the pole shift was happening, was captured in wind currents and ripped to shreds.
And out of respect for them, we'll only describe their death in minor graphic detail.
I'm kidding.
We don't have a guest.
But that's okay because we are hanging out with these Jamokes over here.
ian crossland
I was just wondering if the whole solar system is experiencing polar shifts right now.
If we could test other planets and if it's just like, because if everything flips at once, we wouldn't know that anything flipped.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
Yeah.
From our perspective, it's true because we'd see the other polls.
We'd be like, well, our north is where they're.
ian crossland
Also, if everything in the universe was falling at the same speed, we wouldn't know it.
seamus coughlin
We wouldn't know.
tim pool
Just introduce yourself.
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
I'm Richie Jackson.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm Ian Crossland wearing Richie Jackson's jacket.
Ian Crossland in the house.
Happy to be here.
I've been thinking a lot about the World Economic Order and graphing.
How about you, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
My name is Seamus Coughlin.
I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes.
Today, we have the most incredible infrastructure for storytelling that has ever existed with film, television, and streaming.
And that infrastructure is completely dominated by our enemies, which is a nightmare because the number one way people learn about the world is through story.
That's why myself and my team have spent over 11 years creating over 600 animated videos, reaching over a million subscribers and gaining over 290 million views with zero dollars spent on marketing.
And now we're taking the next step to fight the culture war by making culture.
I've created the first episode of an animated anthology series that's called Twisted Plots, which delivers a good right-wing message and a Christian message, not through ham-fisted moralizing or preaching, but through story and jokes, good humor, and interesting premises.
We need to win the culture war.
We can't do it without making culture.
So I need you guys to go over to twistedplots.com, support us at the $25 level.
You'll be helping us create the future of entertainment.
It is grassroots.
It is right-wing.
And it needs to be run by people who care about producing this stuff, who are passionate about producing this stuff, and not the same people who are pushing woke nonsense trying to step into the quote-unquote anti-woke sphere.
And we need to do this before it's too late because civilization depends on having good stories.
So go over to twistedplots.com, support us.
You'll get access to our pilot, and you'll be helping us create the future of entertainment.
ian crossland
I always thought that comedy does best through meritocracy, obviously, because the funniest people just are the funniest people.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's hard to lie about someone being funny, and it's hard to lie about a movie or a TV show being funny.
And they try to all the time, right?
They'll put these comedians out there and they'll do a laugh track, but watching at home, you're like, that wasn't funny.
tim pool
I love when they remove the laugh track.
You ever see those?
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
From Big Bang Theory.
And then you're like, there's no jokes.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't get it.
The guy will walk in and go, what are you doing?
And she'll be like, exercising.
ian crossland
I was watching Seinfeld last night.
And I was thinking, it's going to get to the point of idiocracy type style where some people will just turn on TV where all it is is just laughing.
Just people laughing.
tim pool
And they'll just laugh along because it's like, this is Democrat political news.
Like when I put on a bulwark podcast where I can't remember the subject they were talking about, and instead of talking about news, they were all just laughing.
And I was like, what is going on?
It was like, so Donald Trump, he said this, and that's just, they all start laughing.
unidentified
And then I'm like, oh, hey, it really is like brainwashing.
ian crossland
It's wild how you can just laugh at it.
tim pool
I call it retardation.
ian crossland
Gut wrench.
tim pool
Like when you see three people in the room going, and you're like, well, they're not laughing at it.
ian crossland
Like if you're laughing at a joke that's not funny together, but it's like funny is in the, like, who thinks it's funny?
It's, it's in the eye of the beholder, you know?
unidentified
Well, and laughing, I thought that was funny.
seamus coughlin
Laughing is also a social mechanism, too.
You're right.
There's something contagious about it.
And when you watch a comedy with your friends as opposed to watching it by yourself, it's less funny.
There are movies also that you can watch with one group of people and it's really funny.
And then you watch with another group of people, you're like, oh, boy, this is intensely awkward.
This movie's not funny at all.
tim pool
Well, let's get into the real subject matter at hand.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
ian crossland
Yeah, the hurdle.
tim pool
So we've got whack-aloon Ian and devout faithful Seamus both going to be debating why or when the world may end from different perspectives.
ian crossland
If you scroll down.
tim pool
So hold on.
Let me read this.
Let me read this.
So this is actually an interesting post.
Jessica sent us this one.
This is from Open Minded Approach, and it's from a year ago.
Check this out.
It's from Hurricane Milton.
Look at this, this beast.
They write, as Hurricane Milton has developed into a category five hurricane that could cause horrific damage to Florida, the two narratives of military control over the weather and human-driven climate change will intensify.
The reality is that next year, these hurricanes and weather patterns will be even worse.
As the geomagnetic excursion progresses, the end game will be a geophysical event, and then everything will start from the beginning.
That's why they want you to focus on these two narratives, because the truth is that we need to walk the walk.
There is no escaping this reality, but it brings the evolution to the soul.
There are legitimate studies on the topic, and you will see them in my upcoming video.
Now, here's why it's interesting.
We just had Hurricane Melissa in Jamaica, which is the third lowest pressure hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic.
And a year ago with Milton, this guy said it's going to get worse next year.
Now, that may not mean that much.
Sure, he got lucky.
A worse hurricane hit Jamaica.
It's the strongest hurricane ever hit Jamaica.
But there are many people who have been looking at this.
And what's fascinating is when it comes to like Ben Davidson, for instance, the dude is not a crackpot conspiracy theorist.
He's not some dude saying this proves interdimensional aliens are coming.
No, he's literally saying, I've got a, this, you know, this readout is showing solar activity.
I think the solar activity may result in this phenomenon happening.
And then what happens?
The cell phones all go out across Spain and parts of France.
So that's when you're like, okay, this guy doesn't sound crazy.
He sounds like he's, I don't know, look, the solar activity is there.
You can corroborate this with other reports tracking solar activity.
And then it seems to be that the solar activity is having an effect or the ozone may be weakening.
The prediction is it is going to get worse.
The polls are going to shift.
This is the reason why it's, so we don't have our principal guests, unfortunately, but we do have, as I mentioned, whack-aloon Ian and devout faithful Seamus, because people are referring to this, I believe it's called the Adam and Eve theory.
Have you guys heard of this CIA thing?
seamus coughlin
I've heard of it.
I mean, if I'm understanding, I've never heard this phrasing, but I assume it's like the world ends, you have two people again, and then the world sort of restarts and nobody knows what happened before.
tim pool
The theory, the hypothesis, better way to describe it, is that the poles shift every 6,500 years.
The axis will tilt along with it, and that will move Antarctica to the equator, which is now all of a sudden in a very warm position, and it's going to cause a lot of the ice to melt, but still leave high elevation glaciers, which we see in Indonesia.
That wipes out human civilization for the most part and leaves behind only small groups of people who then, what do they do?
Desperately trying to maintain their culture, write down a book of all of their rules, thoughts, and laws, and then share it.
And then 2,000 years later, everyone's like, God wrote it.
ian crossland
6,000 years ago, is that about when Judaism is purported to have begun when God spoke to Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago?
seamus coughlin
Well, Judaism's purported to have begun when God spoke to Abraham and made his covenant with him.
There are some Christians who say that the earth was created 6,000.
60,000, some say 10,000.
ian crossland
And then 12,000.
seamus coughlin
There's no like set limit, and there's no set date that, like, the Catholic Church has said, this is when the world was made.
tim pool
But Christians 6,000 BC.
seamus coughlin
And I also want to be clear: some Christians are also theistic evolutionists who will argue that the earth is, you know, millions and millions and millions of years old.
So there isn't just one perspective here.
ian crossland
Every hypothesis is that 6,500 years ago, there was a polar shift that wiped out again, and then Adam and Eve were like humans crawling out of the dirt again.
Before that, 6,500 years before that, you had the cataclysmic flood that destroyed Atlantis 12,800 years ago.
6,500 almost exactly.
tim pool
Everyone knows Atlantis still exists, Ian.
It's just beyond the ice wall.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
tim pool
That's why they won't let you pass it.
seamus coughlin
Go past the ice wall.
ian crossland
Did you see my video of Jake Paul and me in Atlantis?
Anyway, check out my Instagram.
Yeah, yeah.
Sora's the hottest shit on the planet, right?
unidentified
What if?
tim pool
What if it's true?
seamus coughlin
What?
tim pool
What if there is an ice wall?
It was literally built intentionally to keep us out.
And when not, that's not flat around.
ian crossland
There is.
tim pool
But when you, so, so here's the globe, right?
Here's here's the earth, and the continents as we know it are only this big on the planet's surface, and there's an ice wall around it.
And if you fly outside of the ice wall, there's a bunch of other continents like Tartaria and Atlantis.
And the reason why we're isolated here, somebody's got to mind the cobalt.
seamus coughlin
They did.
Well, there is, and they showed it on the news accidentally.
It was a news blooper.
So you can see the news blooper where they're showing Antarctica.
And then they go, oh, oh, we're above the ice wall.
And everyone's like, oh, you weren't supposed to show that, you silly goose.
tim pool
And humans are really advanced over there.
They're flying around and they're immortal.
ian crossland
Pull up the video from the Twitter you had up of the hurricane itself because I want to show how this probably is connected to solar activity.
Look, see how on the left you have the hurricane.
Then on the right, watch another spinning gyration forms.
That's not wind.
That's magnetism making that appear on the right.
It's like a two spinning objects, like a dual black hole.
tim pool
I don't, I have no idea why you're claiming it was magnetism.
It's probably just low pressure and high pressure.
ian crossland
It might not be magnet.
You're right.
It might not, it might be other forces, but it's not wind.
It's not just wind that's causing this.
tim pool
I just want to appear.
ian crossland
It just appears, you know?
tim pool
We only, as humans, recently discovered the electromagnetic spectrum.
And we try to.
seamus coughlin
And the gender spectrum.
That was a reason.
So for a while, we didn't know any of these things spectrums.
tim pool
But I'm just saying, like, to Ian's point, imagine ducks trying to figure out why the water is flowing in the river.
I kind of, that's how I feel.
There's like, there's gonna, they're gonna be some entities, angels, demons, God, whatever it is.
Something's looking down on us being like, how cute.
seamus coughlin
Well, and this is what's fascinating to me, right?
To me, this is the more interesting exploration is the way humans interact with weather.
When all of humanity seems to have had a specific perspective throughout all of history, it's not to say that that perspective is correct, but it is to say there is something in our humanness that leans in the direction of believing that.
And even if it's a misdirected instinct, we should probably know what it is.
Because people for all of history have linked weather and weather patterns to the behavior of human beings and whether or not we're behaving morally.
So in ancient times, people would sacrifice their children on altars so that the sun would come up the next day and so that they would get good crop yields.
And the left would even mock Christians for saying the reason certain tragedies happen is because God's upset because we're slaughtering infants.
And then they would turn around and go, and that's silly because the obvious reason those tragedies happen is because you're driving an SUV and that's very immoral.
tim pool
everyone like everyone seems to have this belief that climate and weather are affected by human moral behavior which is fascinating and what is it what is it in us that wants to believe that what if the only like true religion is there's some just like up in heaven or in the clouds i don't know how you describe it there's some mesopotamian dude with like leaves covering his junk and he's got a little clicker and every time there's an abortion he clicks it And then he goes, let's see, what are we at?
3,943,000?
Ooh, just shy of 4 million.
Hurricane.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
The left thinks it's the opposite.
He's like, they didn't have enough abortions.
We have to flood the world with climate change.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
He's like, just shy of 4 million.
You didn't make it.
ian crossland
I think I asked God.
I was praying.
I was like, will I be judged for my sins?
And he was like, you will all be judged for factory farming.
And it was real, like, damn, bro.
Like, if you want to talk about we're paying the price for what we're doing to the species on, so eat, you know.
tim pool
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
ian crossland
I don't know if it was fake of my own imagination or what, but that was the answer I got.
I was like, dude, that hit me deep.
I think that there is something to human sacrifice.
I know it's a funny thing to say.
That's why I stuttered.
But there is something to blood sacrifice because blood has iron in it that's magnetic.
And the sun is magnetic.
tim pool
That is called a spurious correlation.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Well, this is what I want to talk about.
You're like, why do people think they're connected to the weather?
I think it's the iron, the magnetic materials.
tim pool
The amount of body blood is not going to change weather.
ian crossland
The Aztecs thought it did.
tim pool
Because they were nuts and they sacrificed the body.
ian crossland
No, but they had a whole culture around it.
Like they really believed it.
tim pool
Yeah, because they're stupid.
And the conquistadors showed up and they were like, good God, what are these people doing?
seamus coughlin
My theory.
tim pool
And the left are like, the indigenous culture was right.
ian crossland
I think it might have worked just at what cost.
Like it did something, but at what cost?
Like a cost that we won't pay.
tim pool
No, I don't think it did anything.
I think they were nuts.
seamus coughlin
What happened was the blood sacrifices worked and it made the weather so good that weather was good enough for the Europeans to build ships to go over there and stop them.
So it backfired.
It actually completely backfired.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Actually, that'd be a funny bit.
seamus coughlin
That would be very funny.
tim pool
It's like there's constant storms and they're like, we have to sacrifice our children to stop the storms.
And then they do.
And they're like, we did stop the sacrifice.
unidentified
And then the ships pull up.
seamus coughlin
Columbus pulls up.
Well, dude, this is one of those things where, I mean, listen, I'm sure there's going to be real controversial.
It is offensive to some, but I believe ultimately that these pagan religions are worshiping demons.
And the surest way to know whether a demon is being worshipped is whether innocent human life is being destroyed.
And that's what they were doing.
They were slaughtering children.
ian crossland
What about like this slaughtering a calf or a pig or something?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
So because Christ fulfilled the old covenant, because Christ fulfilled the law, we don't believe that like animal sacrifice is necessary.
But it isn't, that's also interesting because you see that in a lot of cultures historically.
There's something that humans recognize about sacrifice in the necessity of it.
And I don't exactly know why that is either.
tim pool
We went to a fall festival, Allison and I, and we were looking at like antiques and stuff.
One of the barns or whatever we went in that had stuff had this nice little tray of like little golden animals.
And I was like, oh, I should get the golden calf for Seamus.
And then I was like, actually, I don't know if that would be offensive.
seamus coughlin
That's a funny question.
Yeah, I mean, but it's an interesting question.
So, no, I don't believe that like killing animals can forgive your sins or anything like that.
But I do think it's interesting that so many cultures have engaged in some kind of sacrifice.
And again, I think it's because there's a human instinct to seek truth that's being misappropriated.
We know some sacrifice is necessary.
It can point us towards the sacrifice of Christ on the cross, but killing a chicken or goat or cow is not going to do anything for your soul.
It's not going to save you.
tim pool
But what if your sins?
What if the issue is that we haven't sacrificed enough chickens?
ian crossland
I think they've thought that many times throughout history.
seamus coughlin
That's the problem.
The same is there's never enough chickens, right?
tim pool
No, no, but like the factory farming is we need to get to 10 billion chicken sacrifices.
ian crossland
And finally, God will keep going.
Oh, geez, I don't even, sorry.
I understand the idea of sacrifice because personal sacrifice, I won't eat the sugary thing because tomorrow I'll feel better and stronger.
That sacrifice then can permeate into the macroscopic metaphor of like, now if I ruin other things, but like when you kill a chicken, you're not losing anything.
The chicken's the one get losing it.
tim pool
Well, but if that's your only wealth, I guess if it's your livestock, it's because you're not, you have to kill the chicken and then its heart to gain its courage.
ian crossland
There's always healing.
It wasn't like I burned down my house as my sacrifice.
It was always killing something.
Well, no, always.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, you're, you're right.
There's something interesting about that.
If I had to guess, and this is just me spitballing right now, but I think it's because as human beings, we know we've betrayed, we know we've betrayed our creator in grievous enough ways that something has to die.
I actually think that that's the case.
We know that we have done wrong in such ways that specific actions, sacrificing or doing some small penance, we know that something about that isn't enough.
And again, that's, you know, Christ willingly offered himself up on the cross for our sins.
So there was a death and then there was a resurrection.
But if I had to guess why so many cultures throughout history sacrificed animals, it's because we know we have done so wrong that something needs to die.
It's not just enough to make some kind of financial restitution.
ian crossland
So they're proxying killing something else instead of themselves as the sacrifice.
They're like, look, God's going to kill something and let's just decide for God what it's going to be.
seamus coughlin
I don't even wonder if that is that.
I think it's like just trying to make sense of it.
It's like, man, I know I've done really bad things.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know how to make up for this.
But something has to die.
And maybe, maybe you're right.
That part of it is like, well, I don't want to die.
Maybe part of it is, well, there's like good God can use me for if I don't die.
But yeah, I do think it's something in that category.
I think it's something in that category of I've messed up.
And it's not enough to just say sorry.
tim pool
Humans began sacrificing animals around 10 to 12,000 years ago.
ian crossland
Oh, right.
tim pool
Practice emerged as part of the Neolithic Revolution when people domesticated animals and plants.
Archaeological evidence from sites like Gobekli Tepe show ritual feasting with wild animal bones evolving into deliberate sacrifices of domesticated sheep, goats, and cattle by 8,000 BC.
ian crossland
That's pretty much the dawn of recorded human history after that giant global flood 12,000 years ago that decimated Atlantis and they all fled Gobekle Tepe and that's where they brought like the remaining knowledge is like this temple.
tim pool
I want to just stress how offensive the term BCE and CE are.
seamus coughlin
I agree.
I totally agree.
tim pool
And I'll tell you what, because it's basically putting like plastic wrap over what we actually like the fact that there is a BC and AD and then just saying, we're going to continue that, but we're going to call it BC and CE.
seamus coughlin
And it's like, but yes, the common era.
tim pool
But hold on.
What made this era common?
ian crossland
What changed?
Death, essentially.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
Roman suppression.
tim pool
Well, so CE means Christ's execution.
ian crossland
BCE was.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is what's execution.
This is what's actually hilarious to me about.
I probably shouldn't laugh at that.
But here's what's hilarious to me about BCE in AD.
I'm sorry, they say CE and BCE.
Part of what's so hilarious to me about that is that a lot of these same people will go, you know, Christians just stole festivals from pagan religions and then called them by Christian names.
You can't just do that.
You can't just steal someone else's dates on a calendar and then rename them.
By the way, it's not BC and AD anymore.
It's CE and BCE.
It's like, you just did that with the entire timeline and you're accusing us of doing it with specific holidays.
But the reason, it's also really funny because a lot of the claims that Christians just stole holidays from pagan religions is really silly because they'll go like, well, Christmas is in December and other cultures had holidays in December.
It's like, yes, like other cultures also celebrated holidays in the winter.
That doesn't mean, like, that doesn't mean we stole the idea.
That's not like something you can patent there.
ian crossland
Halloween, since I guess today is Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
Is it a pagan thing?
Jack Pesopic tweeted out it's not a pagan thing.
seamus coughlin
It's not All Hallows Eve.
So All Hallows Eve, basically November 1st is All Souls Day, or I think All Saints Day, sorry.
But we, as Catholics, have taken this time historically, the 31st of October and the 1st of November to pray for the dead.
And what kids used to do the night before on All Hallows Eve is in some places there was a tradition where they would like dress up as saints or they would dress up as souls in purgatory and ask for soul cakes from people.
And then they would consume those.
And that is actually the root of kids dressing up and trick-or-treating.
ian crossland
I mean, think about how to save souls from purgatory.
If heaven is in the sun, which maybe it's like, it's the white light.
seamus coughlin
It sounds like hell though on this.
ian crossland
Well, it's just like beauty.
It's no, the rejection of it is hell.
The deep darkness of nothingness, of emptiness of light, the deep space.
So some souls, when they pass on, reject love because they're so unfamiliar with it.
They push and they get cast off into the darkness of space.
So if you become a beacon of light and shine outward, then they can find you and come back.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
ian crossland
So that's Christ's sacrifice is like some people can be like, look, I'm going to forever look out.
That's just, you can find me, you know?
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
So my question for you, I guess, is if you, if that's your theory, like, do you believe in a resurrection of the dead?
Do you believe that the dead will ever return?
Or do you think that at the point of death, people just sort of float off their body as souls?
Or do you believe?
I'm curious, like, what do you believe about the offer?
ian crossland
I think there's a difference between life and sentience.
And that people sometimes will conflate the terms, but that when the body dies, life stops, but sentience continues in the soul.
And your soul still has the ability to maybe even think.
I'm not 100% sure think is the right word, but calculate.
And it's like you see plasma dancing around.
seamus coughlin
There's something that it's like to be the soul, is what you're saying.
Like there is like a qualitative experience to it, even if you wouldn't call it thinking.
ian crossland
I think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And I would imagine time seems to slow down.
Like the earth just seems to stand, everything seems to stand still.
You can see, I don't know, man.
I'm kind of, it's weird to think in terms of what it would be like at that high frequency percent.
Because what I think happens is like it's just a higher frequency, not just a higher frequency, but there are many frequencies embodying you.
You know, one of, and the super dense frequencies become solid matter and that they cool down so much so that this higher frequency also agitates.
And it's that agitation that's kind of like thinking.
seamus coughlin
So what I'm curious about, like why frequencies?
Because I know sometimes when we talk about this stuff, you'll talk about like vibrations and frequencies.
And I'm just curious what role that plays or why that, like, is that just for lack of a better term?
Or what role do frequencies and vibrations play in this stuff?
ian crossland
Well, the states of matter are heat.
Like, so you have solid, liquid, gas, plasma.
And basically, as you're going down towards a solid, it's slowing down.
Things are slow, or they're cooling down.
It's the same thing as it's either getting colder or slower.
So that means that something is changing in the speed, which then could be related to the frequency that is producing that speed.
Like, why are things in motion?
Because it's a subatomic level.
Things are changing.
So, like, it might look like I'm moving through space, but I'm appearing in space in a different position over and over and over and over.
And at the speed of light, I'm constantly reappearing in a new position because the subatomic material is rapidly changing position due to the frequency, I believe, that the universe is like pumping.
It's like cymatics.
It's a branch of science.
tim pool
It's a fine frequency.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
ian crossland
How fast of an impulse is it?
How fast is something's getting pulsed?
seamus coughlin
When you say being pulsed, you mean like vanishing and then reaching out.
tim pool
Space time?
ian crossland
Space-time's getting bubbled, like real fast or real slow.
tim pool
What does that mean bubbled?
ian crossland
It's like a in and out of what we see as this space.
It's going in and out of this vast.
seamus coughlin
You mean like an appearing and disappearing?
ian crossland
It would look like it's appearing.
tim pool
Yeah, it would look like it's going between dimensions.
ian crossland
Yeah, kind of.
Yeah.
Dimensions are kind of a vague term.
tim pool
Isn't it just the frequency of vibration?
ian crossland
In and out.
Yeah.
It's the vibrate.
It's like the movement in and out, left and right.
Well, I was told it was in and out by the spirit.
I'm like, they're like, come in, come here.
And I was like, where are you?
They were like, in.
Yeah, one spirit when I was vaping the DMT.
I was like, where are you?
She went in.
And I'm like, whoa, okay, they're in.
What does that mean?
And I just think about like the proton and the black hole at the center of the proton.
tim pool
Is it possible perhaps that you were just on drugs?
ian crossland
Yeah, possibly I was hallucinating as I'm a psychopath, too.
But I do think that subatomic space, because no one knows for sure why subatomic spin is happening.
They're like, why are this?
Why are these positions changing at the subatomic level?
I think it's cymatics, that the universe has a frequency that is changing, ever, ever changing, and that when it changes, the position moves to a new position because the frequency decides what position things will be in.
And so it rapidly changes frequency.
tim pool
I got an idea.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, hit me.
tim pool
Ian should launch a shampoo and soap company that's all natural and write all of this down on the sides of the label.
ian crossland
Candace Owens told me to do that too.
tim pool
No, no, no.
All of Ian's ideas should be written on the side of his shampoo bottles.
ian crossland
All right.
Will you guys buy my shampoo?
Because if you like the idea, put a one in the chat.
tim pool
You know what's really funny is there's this meme where it's like someone said, What if the only true religion is the incoherent scribblings on the side of the Dr. Browner's shampoo bottle?
And then, but liberals had that, and the response was, that's Christian scripture.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's hilarious.
They put like a Bible verse there and they called it.
tim pool
Oh, it's just loaded with like Bible verses.
ian crossland
This is my problem with religion.
tim pool
I feel like the liberals were like, what if this is the only religion?
And people are like, uh-huh.
ian crossland
Yeah, the one that got written down.
seamus coughlin
But Tim, what if the words of the prophets were written on the subway walls, the tenement halls?
Well, here's something echoed in the sound of silence.
Have you considered possibility?
ian crossland
Judaism?
tim pool
Yes, but I'd be concerned about people bowing and praying to the neon God that they've made instead.
seamus coughlin
I mean, the sign would flash out its warning, so they knew what they were getting into.
ian crossland
I mean, I don't know what's happening.
I know what's happening.
tim pool
Hey, we're singing.
ian crossland
I think that.
Yeah, you guys are doing a beautiful work, too.
The reason I think Christianity and Judaism got famous is because that's when writing appeared.
seamus coughlin
It's whoever has many religions at the time, though.
ian crossland
Yeah, and they all faded away, except for the ones that got written down.
seamus coughlin
I think the others got written down, right?
Because we're able to study ancient Egyptian ruins and see what some of them are.
tim pool
Yeah, but also, like, we've written down a bunch of dumb ones too.
Like, the fact that there's people who believe there's an ice wall beyond it is Tartaria.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but that's true.
tim pool
They should not have written that down.
It's a fun movie.
seamus coughlin
It is a fun movie.
tim pool
Right now, the people in Tartaria are watching this and laughing.
unidentified
But like, God is.
ian crossland
All the religions have got to be right.
All the religions are pointing towards something that's true.
seamus coughlin
So I think that there's this old idea that in every heresy is a kernel of truth.
Even when an idea is very wrong, there's some truth in it that keeps people in.
tim pool
Right.
Like when we argued this on the sorry to interrupt, but the Orthodox versus Catholic debate, where I can't remember who said it, but they said something about Hindus are not people who are striving towards the truth, but in theory.
seamus coughlin
They're wrong.
Yeah, improperly, basically.
tim pool
So like something about what they're saying is correct, but they're in the wrong direction.
seamus coughlin
Even though they're like worshiping demons, they don't realize that.
And there's some goodness that's being sold because the devil appears as an angel of light to try to fool people.
And so, again, this is not like, this is not me promoting indifferentism and saying all religions are equal.
Far from it.
But it is saying that I do think there's a kernel of truth in these false religions.
I believe Catholicism has the fullness, the fullness of the truth.
Sorry, my voice.
ian crossland
You're right.
I think that spirits will pretend to be God.
Because I asked the spirit, are you God?
And he went, no.
And I could tell he was like, we get asked that a lot.
And people pray and spirits, some tricky ones will respond and be like, are you God?
And they'll be like, yes, I am.
And it's like, some will be righteous, but some, there's playful energy fields out there.
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ian crossland
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seamus coughlin
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tim pool
I remember it as bear skein, which is very strange, you know.
seamus coughlin
So it's a Mandela effect.
tim pool
So the Mandela effect is a bunch of people who don't remember things properly.
And then someone tells them something is true.
And they go, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
And then all of a sudden start saying something is true.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the real thing.
Well, or also like, I mean, listen, I've been doing Freedom Tunes for 11 years, and people very often spell it T-U-N-E-S, even though it's T-O-O-N-S.
So when people talk about the Mandela effect, they're like, dude, if I talked to someone or someone was like, you know, Freedom Tunes is T-O-O-N-S, some number of people would be like, I swear it's T-U-N-E-S.
tim pool
And then it's because of Looney Tunes.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
And there are people who believe that Looney Tunes used to be T-O-O-N-S.
seamus coughlin
It comes full circle in the future.
They're gonna see oh and s makes more sense.
tim pool
They're cartoons And so there are people who, from the Mandela Effect, there's an offshoot conspiracy group called Reality Shifting, where basically what happens is people are like, the Mandela effect is real.
Like, we've jumped timelines somehow.
And then people started saying things like, hey, bro, when I was a kid, it was Berenstein.
And they're like, what?
They just believe it.
And the person goes, it's because I jumped timelines.
No way.
So then people, they start doing, there are these people that will go in their closet and they believe that if you can attain pure sensory deprivation from the outside world, then the whole universe goes into flux.
Well, I hope those people come out of the closet who can jump to a new reality.
So the way it works is a combination of things happen.
They believe that they've jumped timelines before, and that's why Berenstein is now Berenstein.
But how did they do it?
It must have been an accident.
So if the double slit experiment is real and the act of observation can change superpositions into singular points, they believe that if you can attain true sensory deprivation inside the sensory deprivation tank, everything is at a singular point.
It's solidified from a superposition to a single point.
But outside, the universe is in flux.
But that means— So solipsistic, though.
You cannot go into the sensory deprivation and then come out into a world of dinosaurs because the sensory deprivation tank would not exist in a world of dinosaurs without humans.
So you can only jump to a universe that is almost entirely the same as the universe you are.
ian crossland
It's like you can only walk into the next one.
tim pool
And so you can't change your body because your body is, you are there experiencing your body and it is not in a superposition, but everything else is.
So if you go into sensory deprivation and then you hyper concentrate on the universe you want to go to, you'll come out.
Berenstein will be Berenstein.
ian crossland
The difference is when it's in super position, when it re-collapses, it's all of human consciousness is deciding what it's going to be.
So, all those people that are familiar with what they think it is will overpower you unless you're super powerful.
tim pool
You misunderstand the point of sensory deprivation.
Your singular universe has isolated itself, and everything outside is Strödinger's cat.
ian crossland
It'll for sure change you in drastic ways.
The Egyptians, that's what they think the sarcophagi were, were sensory deprivation tanks.
They would get in, cover themselves, put salt water in there, and then they would just vibrate and they would have like light coming vibrate.
Yeah, well, they would hum into those shafts and stuff to create tone that would send you into the fucking stratosphere, the rocket your consciousness, and they would shine light down these chutes you see, and they would like reflect down.
So, you'd get at certain times of day, you'd get like crazy light patterns in the room.
tim pool
So they were tripping.
Do you guys know about quantum immortality?
seamus coughlin
Not yet.
Is this the idea that when you die, you jump to another universe, something like that?
tim pool
It's that your universe, you can't die in.
That's quantum immortality.
The theory is basically that the idea would be that if you were to try and take your own life, no matter what you did in your universe, it would never happen.
It wouldn't work.
The gun would keep jamming and you'd be confused and you might be like, wow, like I can't die.
But you're creating billions of universes where you're just dead.
ian crossland
Oh, interesting.
So you always are alive.
If you kill yourself, to say a horrible thing.
tim pool
No one should try this.
ian crossland
Yeah, no.
But if someone were to die, but from their perspective, they just are living in another position now.
tim pool
They're like, the theory is like, imagine if you had a nuclear weapon and you were like, I'm going to prove my theory.
And you press the button to detonate.
wouldn't go off that aligns with like the universe you started in Everyone outside.
No, no, no, hold on.
In the universe where, so here's the theory.
Everybody in the blast radius of the nuke would be in the same universe as you where the nuke never went off because they can't die.
But everyone outside of, let's say, whatever city you were in would just be in a universe now where that city is vaporized.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
ian crossland
I think that kind of tracks with the way I think of spirits.
Like you're kind of waking up as your spirit when your body dies.
You never really die.
You're just like, oh, you see it from another.
But I like the idea that when you die in that reality, you're still alive in this reality.
tim pool
I call this the Mario Brothers theory.
And look, all the Marios that died, they're gone.
But the Mario who made it the princess, he has no memory of ever dying.
He did everything perfectly.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
That's true.
ian crossland
Okay, I like that.
unidentified
That's good.
tim pool
I think it's wishful thinking from people who believe they're the main character of their story.
seamus coughlin
Well, and also, the thing is, we live in a time of great abundance, so people don't recognize the scarcity of their own life.
We don't spend any time contending with it.
ian crossland
You think that's the same thing.
seamus coughlin
We can now whenever we want, whenever we want, for the most part, things are accessible to us that were never accessible to our ancestors and in a great quantity.
So I actually think that's rerouted our thinking all the way.
tim pool
Kind of, but I think modern Western man, and I mean women and too, I just mean like humans in general, are entirely self-centered and much and value their lives much more than they value anything outside of themselves.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I think they play into each other.
I think that's part of the abundance.
And I also think that when it comes to a lot of these beliefs about like reincarnation or going into another universe, sociologists have studied this.
Reincarnation is more popular when you're living in a very affluent society.
Where it's like, yeah, I could keep doing, I could keep existing in this world over and over and over again.
ian crossland
Oh, because I want to.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
But people who have harsher lives are like, I am not doing this again.
Like, I am not coming back.
tim pool
What happens is when you die, that's the completion of life.
You enter the second quest where you have a little sword next to your name every time you wake up.
ian crossland
Dude, in the spirit realm.
So what do you do you go to the spirit realm?
Well, you're already in the spirit realm, but you start seeing it from the spirit realm and then you're like, I'm bored.
Like, you just get bored?
You're like, what?
Everything's love all the time.
Everything is amazing.
I want some chaos in my life again.
tim pool
What if when you died, you just all of a sudden woke up on a couch and you're next to like some dude smoking a bong?
ian crossland
It'd be sad.
tim pool
You're like, bro, you got 7,000 points on that run of Ian Crossland.
ian crossland
It'd be okay, but I'd be like, I'd be sad about my friends that I, in my dream, that would slowly I'd forget them all.
Like within, you know?
tim pool
It'd be gone in like a minute.
ian crossland
But have you ever, some people say, well, they take ayahuasca, you live a life over a day-long period where you my buddy was like, I had a wife.
I have children that I know in that realm.
seamus coughlin
They mess with his head, dude.
They mess with his head.
Can't do that stuff, man.
ian crossland
Like he had an actual thing.
tim pool
Okay.
Haven't you ever seen these horror movies where like the little kid will be like, mother, I'm your child.
And they're like, oh, God, it's a demon.
That's what it is.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
The dude goes on ayahuasca, goes into the demon realm.
The demons are like, I'm your life.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
What did that mean?
The weird demons.
And that when we were in the spirit realm, they're like, dude, Seamus Coughlin was not a real thing.
That was a demon.
seamus coughlin
There's no such thing.
tim pool
Don't worry.
ian crossland
You are all spirit-like.
There is no whole idea of different people is that's demonic.
We're all one entity.
It's okay.
seamus coughlin
Well, you guys should go to Twisted Plots and support my show, twistedplots.com.
Anyway, as we were saying.
tim pool
Seamus has a whole episode about Ian not being real.
seamus coughlin
Well, we do have an episode about aliens, actually, which sort of plays it.
Our pilot episode, 25 minutes long, it touches on the ET phenomenon.
You can go see that at twistedplots.com if you support the campaign.
But part of what I want to mention here is, I mean, again, we all sort of want an out.
We want, we want it to be the case that we can sort of do whatever we want.
And when we die, we'll just be reborn into a different universe.
It's wishful thinking.
I mean, you got one shot here.
And when you die, you die.
So you got to prepare for your judgment.
ian crossland
Why now?
I asked you this before the show.
seamus coughlin
Oh, yes.
ian crossland
Why are we here at this fluctuation in history, 12,800 years after the flood, getting ready for another magnetic pull shift with the internet all of a sudden?
tim pool
Yeah, what's power?
The internet.
ian crossland
Like one guy can change the world overnight.
seamus coughlin
No, it's a great question because people wrestle with this.
I heard a very funny theory.
This was like philosophers and astrophysicists who were talking about this.
They were going, well, we, I think they were arguing we exist very early in the, we exist very early in what they think is the full life cycle of the universe.
And they're like, how is it probable that we could evolve and exist so early?
And I'm not kidding you.
The conclusion they came to is, oh, there's a mass extinction event in the universe and everything else dies.
So this is the only time we could have existed.
I'm like, that is insane.
That's ridiculous, right?
Just admit that you can't make sense of it, right?
And they didn't want to.
So they have these silly theories.
But I think we had to exist at some point in time, right?
If you are going to exist, you have to exist at some point in time.
You can believe it's totally random, or you can believe that God chose to place you here for a very specific reason, which is what I think.
I don't think any of us exist on accident.
We have this idea of the atomized individual, and you can like grab us from any setting or point in history and drop us anywhere else and we'll still be us.
But a part of who you are, a massive part of who you are, is the time that you live in.
So why do you exist today?
It's like, well, you couldn't possibly have existed at any other point in history because even if a being that had your genetics or something like that existed a thousand years ago, they probably would not be very much like you, right?
ian crossland
No, well, I don't know.
I get tripped up on my name.
They called it Cross.
They're like, you're Crossland.
And I'm like, oh, Jesus is in this reality now.
And I've got to learn about Jesus on the cross.
And my name is Cross.
And I have the power to change the world with internet.
I'm like, dude, there's.
tim pool
Ian's the most important human being on the planet.
ian crossland
It can't be.
It can't be.
We're all pretty good.
But it can't, well, it can be coincidence.
It can be.
tim pool
Nah, Ian's the main character, but it's like 20 years past the epilogue of the main game.
ian crossland
20 years ago was when I fucked up, was when I was on YouTube becoming super well loved and famous and falling.
I got afraid.
I was like, they're going to kill me.
I had to stop.
I'd stop making YouTube videos for like a decade.
I was like, I'm afraid.
I was afraid of fear.
tim pool
Ian was actually, at this point, about to launch a political group called Turning Position, where he was going to lead people.
ian crossland
No political parties.
I was like, we don't even need political parties anymore.
We have internet video.
You can raise all your money.
You don't need a party.
tim pool
I think what actually happened.
seamus coughlin
I started Ian casted IRL.
unidentified
I did.
ian crossland
That was my big problem.
I'd smoked too much pot.
I got in my hole and I became afraid of other people and I was overstimulated.
seamus coughlin
Well, but this is, and this is one, I mean, this is one of the reasons.
Yeah, stay away from drugs.
This is why I warn people because when you're talking about these people who go on ayahuasca and they think that they met their alternate dimension family, all that stuff does is it makes it harder for you to live in reality as reality actually exists.
ian crossland
Yeah, in a sober state.
tim pool
Food does that too.
ian crossland
Food can pull you out of sober reality.
tim pool
I think the internet, video games, movies have turned American, Western largely, but a lot of Americans into functional retards.
Because it used to be when you were a little kid, you were like, one day when I grow up, I'm going to be the best blacksmith ever.
I'm going to make horseshoes.
And you aspired to be a horseshoemaker and you felt great pride and accomplishment in making horseshoes.
Now these people are like, this chick, Kat, Abu Gazela, she got arrested and criminally charged.
She's running for office because she wants people to acknowledge her.
That's the only reason she's doing it.
She has no idea about politics.
She's not motivated by fixing problems.
She is a product of the main character generation.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Where she wants, like, she goes up to this vehicle and she's like, with a group of people that are banging on it and screaming.
And now she's facing a felony charge.
That's a fucker on a fine.
ian crossland
Main character generation is the fucking, that's the problem.
That's you.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
ian crossland
What will happen is God will show you signs and make you think you're the main character.
Gave me the name Crossland on purpose to make me think I'm special when I'm not.
I'm just another guy and you have to keep doing diligent, do the work to help other and lift other people up and not fall into this thing that like, oh, I'm the one.
tim pool
I actually, I come from the dimension where it was Ian Crossman.
ian crossland
And I tried to make that my first email address as Crossman because my buddy's Strasman and someone, Don Crossman, took it from Virginia.
tim pool
Ian Crossman.
But reality changed overnight and now here he is, Crossland.
In fact, in my reality, Ian was an academic, a very smart guy.
ian crossland
Oh, I also was studying math and science up until I started getting into acting.
seamus coughlin
The dimension I came from, it was literally Ian cast IRL.
And Tim would talk about other dimensions.
If I came in with a billion, Tim had Ian and Ian wore a beanie all the time.
So many people think about the same in every other way.
ian crossland
Do you guys think about the possible realities that you could be in right now if you'd made different choices in your past?
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's so interesting.
Yeah, like what would your life be like if any of your choices were a little bit different?
I try not to think about that too much because I think there's a mystery, right?
Because I believe we have free will.
I also believe in divine providence and predestination.
And it can be difficult to understand the interplay between those things.
But I am just grateful for everything in God's plan and where I am right now.
ian crossland
You know, with free will and destination, I feel like the destination is the river, and then the free will is your ability to paddle.
seamus coughlin
That's interesting.
Yeah, that's an interesting thought.
That's an interesting, because even what, like what free will means is also something that's debated.
What if it turns out like what do we, what do you mean by three free will?
Like the ability, like what, and what is the interplay between that and grace?
It's actually a really complicated conversation.
We tend to use freedom as a political term.
Like, oh, when your government allows you the choice between multiple things.
But like freedom on an internal level, freedom at the human level, like what kind of people are, like, which kinds of people are free to make which specific choices and what is that based on?
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
Like, are you?
seamus coughlin
You know, the more virtue you, we know the more virtue you build up, the more free you are because, like, a person with a lot of vice, a person who like has a drinking problem or something, or they're an alcoholic, like, they don't have the freedom to just stop.
Do you know what I mean?
So freedom means something very different on an internal level, and it's kind of complicated.
tim pool
What if the spirits actually are trying to distill cosmic knowledge through Ian, but Ian lacks, humans lack the ability to convey that information?
And I'm not saying this is a joke.
I'm saying if someone really were to be a prophet with some kind of divine knowledge, how would anyone know to believe them as to what they were saying was true?
They would just come off like Ian.
seamus coughlin
I don't necessarily know.
I mean, I think that when you look at the prophets in the Old Testament and you look at prophets, like the idea of a prophet is we see it as well, a prophet, someone who's communicating this esoteric knowledge or telling us what the future is going to be.
But you got to remember that a prophet is somebody who they can, I suppose, do that and, you know, say things that were revealed to them by God.
But it's largely like somebody who's living a really good life and trying to keep their society on track by telling it the things that it forgot, but it should already know.
Like, no, you're not supposed to be worshiping idols or no, you're not supposed to be sacrificing children, whatever it is.
ian crossland
When I started being trying to be more virtuous, I decided I'm going to confess my sins to the internet.
So that was part of my early YouTube journey was telling, making videos talking about my secrets, my past, my humiliating things.
And then it stopped interrupting my, I stopped getting interrupted.
Like I was no longer a slave.
I was free.
I was no longer a slave to my thoughts.
And then in that silence is when I realized stuff.
And maybe it's divine wisdom.
That that's when you start to realize divine wisdom is when you clear the channel and you're not interrupted by your thoughts or whatever you want to call, you know, these interruptions.
And then you can channel divine will because it's like, it must be a two-way radio between you and the spirit realm.
I know that they seem to be able to read everything we're doing in real time, but we can't necessarily read what they're doing.
You have to like open up to catch the frequency.
tim pool
Have you heard the DMT theory where the general idea is that all humans, you could look at it like this.
If you couldn't see the hand and you could only see the fingertips, you would see five individual beings arguing with each other.
And the theory is that beyond the veil, when you take DMT, you can see the threads that connect it all to the greater and we are all just tendrils of the same being.
seamus coughlin
And they'll show you.
And this is why I like to point out, I think in every heresy, there's a kernel of truth.
We do exist as individuals in the sense that God loves each of us and he created us and we're all unique.
One thing that our society has forgotten as we've moved in the direction of atomized individualism is that you exist along this historic continuum, right?
You aren't, your life is not really just yours to do what you want with.
I was thinking about this the other day.
I saw some very rich celebrity said, I'm not going to leave any of my wealth to my children.
And my first thought was, all right, when I think about everything my ancestors went through to come to America, how my great-grandparents got here, they got on a boat, not a plane that was too far in the past for them to have access to the travel that we have access to today.
And they came here for a better life.
And like, if I were to become unfathomably wealthy, it would be spitting on the graves of my ancestors who did everything they could to come here for me to go like, I'm not going to keep it in the family and I'm not going to give it to my descendants, right?
Because I don't just exist for me.
Like I exist as a part of my family.
I exist as a member of the church.
I exist like I exist as an American.
You don't.
And so we try to remove ourselves from the structures that actually very much give our lives meaning.
So in that, I think that's the truth in that, that heresy.
But I don't think that we're all, you know, the same being.
I certainly don't think that's the case.
ian crossland
We're probably more connected through something unseen than the same.
But like the thing about generational wealth, giving all the wealth to one child is like if all of your magnesium was in your middle finger and your other finger wasn't, didn't get any, you'd be like, I'm dying.
I'm going to lose my finger that's not getting the wealth.
seamus coughlin
But you got to think about it that way.
Whatever organic mechanism that exists in your body that's supposed to give magnesium to that finger, it just gives magnesium to that finger instead of the other one.
And as a father, it is your social role to provide for your children and not necessarily everyone else's children.
So, actually, the best way for you to ensure health across society is to do the specific role that you have instead of trying to take on other people's roles.
And it's not to say that you can't or shouldn't help the poor or other people's children when you can.
It's just that you got to keep your primary duty in mind.
tim pool
Let's grab this.
Let's talk about this right here.
The next Carrington-level solar superstorm could wipe out all our satellites, new simulations reveal.
So, I just think it's interesting.
We had this big solar storm in the 1800s that fried everything, but we didn't have the computers that we have today.
seamus coughlin
Dude, can you imagine crazy that that happened too?
Because I forget about that.
tim pool
Right.
So, what if this Adam and Eve theory isn't necessarily even about the poles shifting, but a solar storm blasting and wiping out all tech?
And then, you know, we're just with a bunch of rocks.
ian crossland
Yeah, we need tech that can handle a solar flare for sure.
And lightning strikes.
We need like graphene batteries, supercharger capacitors that can handle literally a lightning strike and charge up because otherwise, man, we are teetering on the edge of everything getting knocked out by like what we know is real.
seamus coughlin
It's funny, though.
What if we didn't do anything to protect ourselves from solar flares?
Because we're still like 50-50 on whether this stuff is good for us.
Like, we're like, we have this technology, but like, honestly, like, if a solar flare comes, it was God's will.
Like, we'll just start.
tim pool
Are you guys familiar with mud flood theory?
seamus coughlin
No.
ian crossland
Yeah, a little bit.
tim pool
That at some point, a giant flood swept across the earth and it buried a great civilization in mud.
And there are people that believe that we're not building buildings.
We're reclaiming them by digging them out.
And the evidence they cite for it is that there are buildings in places, and this is true, it's kind of weird, where you can see a door frame half buried.
So it's like there'll be a building, sidewalk going past it, and then you'll see half of a door sticking out.
And you're like, why did they put a doorframe where that dirt is?
seamus coughlin
Where your parents' house has a basement that used to all be above ground.
It got buried.
tim pool
So actually, some people think that, but it may actually be simple in that there used to be a cellar door and a pathway, and they just filled it in.
Well, also, when they're easy explanation.
seamus coughlin
What do they mean?
We're just like, they think they're sticking things up.
We see people build buildings.
tim pool
Yes, but they're saying old, a lot of old buildings were there before the flood.
And so the idea is the poles shifted.
And when the pole shifts, the water sloshes around the planet.
And when floods happen, the sediment then settles, leaving behind this thick mud.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what they think happened in Atlantis.
The floodwaters came from the Atlantic into Africa.
You see the striations of the sand getting pushed up on.
So not only did when all that glacier ice melted, all that land went up because there's no longer glacial pressure.
When that land went up in North America, Atlantis went down because that's, I think, called static, some sort of static thing on Earth where like if one part goes up, other parts go down.
Not only did that happen, but the ocean came and flooded mud all over top of it.
tim pool
What would you guys do if it turned out that this advanced human civilization still exists and intentionally keeps us in the dark?
ian crossland
Like they went underground.
seamus coughlin
What if this happened?
tim pool
Just hear me out on the ice wall.
seamus coughlin
Hear me out on my theory.
What if Atlantis, what if Atlantis existed and does exist?
And when they wrote about it at their time, it seemed like this insane high-tech utopia.
But to us, it's just like, it's okay.
It's like average.
Like we discover it and it's kind of like, it's like Atlanta in the 70s.
tim pool
No, no.
seamus coughlin
It's not like you wouldn't, it would be amazing to an ancient person, but you're like, it's just kind of like.
tim pool
But it's a great point, but even less than that, where it's like they just had the wheel.
And they were like, it was crazy.
They could move stuff around.
It just went.
ian crossland
My guess is they had electricity because they had Baghdad batteries they found where you could fill up clay pots with vinegar and like an iron rod and wrap it with copper.
I think that's the tech.
And then you link them a bunch of them together and you get power and like light bulbs and shit.
tim pool
They use it for electrolysis, electric electroplating.
ian crossland
Yeah, stuff like that.
I don't know.
I don't think they had radio.
I would love to fantasize that maybe they had radio and that's how they dominated the oceans.
You know, that's how they were such a global.
tim pool
What about what was that stuff that napalm they had?
Was it like Roman Greek fire?
Greek fire.
unidentified
There you go.
ian crossland
Yeah, the Greeks had that by 2000, by like zero BC.
Well, zero.
tim pool
It's like we try and wonder, like, how could they make something that would burn and stick to stuff so powerfully?
And it was just literally feces.
ian crossland
Oh, and the Romans could build concrete underground.
Dude, Atlantis.
I wonder how advanced they were.
seamus coughlin
I really do like to think it was just kind of like an average American town from the 80s or something, which again, historically, that's massive, right?
Compared to what people had.
But you would go there and be like, ah, like, yeah, it's a little bit more.
tim pool
I think it'd be funnier if it was just in the Bronze Age.
They were looking at something that was the Iron Age, and they're like, whoa.
unidentified
I think there's something that lasts longer.
seamus coughlin
I think there'd be something funny about it being kind of close to today, but just not impressive to us.
I don't know.
It's like, okay.
tim pool
You should make that.
ian crossland
It'd be like hanging out in 50s, but they're Neanderthals.
seamus coughlin
Maybe that'll be an eventual episode of Twisted Plots.
tim pool
But I think it would have to be like the 1930s or whatever.
seamus coughlin
They are like the 40s where it's not that advanced, but they have electricity.
tim pool
Or they're just trying to mechanize radio.
seamus coughlin
And they're like, we have an incredible cure.
If you are sick, we'll put leeches on you.
And they're like, whoa.
ian crossland
But with Neanderthals, there's Neanderthals there.
The last Neanderthals went, got taken to Atlantis as slaves, and they were used as servants.
But they were educated, but they were still used as a servant class.
What about my story?
I'm just making that up.
seamus coughlin
It would have to, the whole thing would have to be gags about how either mediocre or bad their technology is.
But then at the end, they have some tech that just mogs us.
Like, yes, oh, of course, our replica.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Where we are able to definitely create.
ian crossland
Randall Carlson's talking about that.
tim pool
It's like it's Atlantis, and then one guy goes, heavier than air flying machines are impossible.
ian crossland
They think that they did have like, well, they postulate that they might have had, instead of explosive technology, they have implosed.
That's how they get their propulsions through implosive force.
So that causes vibration and then that causes a where does the implosion go?
seamus coughlin
Out there.
ian crossland
Well, there's different ways to look at it because if you have like mercury, if you squeeze one part of the mercury, the rest of it will shoot forward.
tim pool
That's implosive.
ian crossland
If you implode an area, the other part of it will fire, like squeeze, go firing off.
Maybe something like that.
Or maybe it just causes things to go back and forth so fast that it causes an electrical charge.
tim pool
It's like we've built this 500-foot circumference sphere, and when we blow it up, it'll go down to one foot.
ian crossland
Just with the implosion?
No, you'd have a sphere and you'd implode part of the sphere and the rest of the sphere would shoot off.
What?
That's hypothetically, if you imploded like part of the sphere, compressed part.
Like if you have a balloon and you squeeze part of the balloon, the other part of the balloon gets bigger.
tim pool
Right, that's not implosive, that's just like...
ian crossland
The force of implosion would be like your hand squeezing.
It would be that kind of pressure.
tim pool
You mean like when a combustion engine and it goes down and up?
unidentified
Hmm.
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Because the going down is just as part of the going up part.
ian crossland
Compressive.
Oh, yeah, there would still be compression.
tim pool
Because you need to create the pressure and then it explodes and shoots it back out.
ian crossland
Right.
And how are they getting that compression to compression to create that force?
Sound, maybe?
Like if you see samo luminescence when in a bubble underwater creates light.
Have you ever seen that?
If a bubble pops underwater, it creates light.
tim pool
There's that shrimp or whatever.
You ever see them?
It can like do the punch, which yeah, the mansion shrimp.
Yeah, there you go.
seamus coughlin
Dude, those things are crazy.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
And have you ever bite down on like a one of those old lifesaver mint lifesavers in a closet?
You can see it spark.
tim pool
What?
ian crossland
If you have a lifesaver in the dark, yeah, bite down.
Don't do it.
Might hurt your teeth, but it causes, you can see sparks.
tim pool
It's really, really dark in your bedroom at night, and then you have the blanket and you can see lightning go, like electricity go across it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, if you like wipe the pillow or blanket with your hand and it sparks.
ian crossland
We got to tap into that.
seamus coughlin
That's a solar flare right there.
tim pool
Yeah.
What do you guys think?
We got to tap into the static electricity of our wool blankets at night.
We power our home as we shuffle through the night.
ian crossland
Space-time is the wool blanket, and the sun is the static plot.
tim pool
I feel like right now there's like he's God's watching this and going, he's like, just get it right.
ian crossland
I've given you 46 years, Crossland.
Get it right.
seamus coughlin
I think that if another solar, it's an interesting question, like another solar flare hitting.
I don't buy into the theory that there was a civilization before.
I mean, I do actually, because I believe in the flood, but I mean before Adam and Eve.
I don't think there was a human civilization before Adam and Eve.
But I think whether or not you believe in that is going to inform your beliefs about what is possible next, probably.
tim pool
But what if there was an Atlantis and it was destroyed in the flood?
seamus coughlin
Or just, yeah, or any, you know, pre-flood civilization.
tim pool
But, but in all seriousness, maybe there was an Atlantis.
It was not particularly advanced.
It was just.
seamus coughlin
They thought it was advanced afterwards.
tim pool
Hot airball.
No, no, no, no, not even that.
Not even that.
That's way too much.
I'm saying it was an urban center.
And so in the urban center, things were just slightly more advanced, like they're in an aqueduct.
And they were like, whoa.
And then the flood wipes it out.
And they tell legends of this great advanced civilization, but it was only advanced back then.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
If you look at the market.
tim pool
Look at what you're saying.
I'm saying like 21st century, 20th century is still way too advanced.
ian crossland
They made a bread horses.
They probably, because they did conquer area according to legend.
So they would have imported a lot of foods and animals, I think.
Maybe they had elephants, who knows?
But if you look at the Rakot structure and that plateau that it's on, there's a lot of ancient rivers and where you would have the outlying farms.
There's other like moats dug.
You should see what they dug.
Nuke it and get to the bottom of it.
tim pool
We should nuke Antarctica.
ian crossland
We have to get under the Rakota.
tim pool
Well, Trump says he wants to reach out this nuclear test.
I say, let's just start nuking Antarctica to see what happens.
ian crossland
Dude, what's under Antarctica?
seamus coughlin
It should possibly go wrong.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I mean, I hear Roseanne said.
seamus coughlin
No, because Trump's going to do that and then sue you.
You have to say you don't mean it to me.
tim pool
No, no.
Trump should nuke the same spot in Antarctica like 50 times.
What if Trump?
Okay, honest question.
What if Trump came out and was like, I think we should nuke Antarctica in the exact same location 50 times just to see what happens?
seamus coughlin
That would like move America like a rocket ship.
tim pool
You're like digging a hole.
seamus coughlin
The whole earth would just.
tim pool
But what would the response be?
ian crossland
Everyone would like to go.
tim pool
The left would be like, yeah, yeah.
People on the right are going to be like, Trump is right.
We've got to nuke it.
ian crossland
That's the thing.
seamus coughlin
And Arthur has been going none nukes for too long.
ian crossland
People will be like, you know, that's that meme where it's just like people, dot, dot, and then it's like nothing.
And then Trump says, we got to nuke the polls.
And everyone's like, we got to nuke the polls.
You're like, you didn't weren't even thinking that yesterday.
Now all of a sudden you think it's a good idea?
tim pool
No.
Trump needs to come out and just for no reason.
Trump just comes out and goes, my fellow Americans, I will not nuke Antarctica.
It's not going to happen.
It will never happen.
And then the left, every corporate press outlet's like, Trump must nuke Antarctica.
ian crossland
Do you want to nuke it to melt the ice?
tim pool
I just want to dig a big hole.
ian crossland
Get under it?
seamus coughlin
Nobody wants to see it happen.
tim pool
No, I just think that if there's one thing man must do, it is to dig a hole.
And we have the technology to dig the biggest hole ever ever dug.
ian crossland
You would imagine they'd have done it already.
And they don't let people fly over Antarctica.
seamus coughlin
They don't have the will.
tim pool
Okay, I'm just, there's nothing there.
Aren't they like nuke it over and over again?
ian crossland
Oh, and that's why that's the point.
You'd be like, you guys said there's nothing there.
Just nuke the thing.
tim pool
And they're like, there is nothing there.
I'm saying nuke it so we can get to the bottom of it.
Literally the bottom of Antarctica.
We should hollow it out and just make it a big, make it a big like the biggest transition ever built on earth and you can ski down it and it's like 50 miles of slope and you're going like you're going terminal thing.
ian crossland
That's how you'll shoot things up into space.
seamus coughlin
It's like a giant bowl and it'll be a big skate park up there.
tim pool
I bet they'd go like 300 miles an hour and then up the other side and get 400 feet of air launched off.
ian crossland
Magnetic launch.
You build a magnetic track that launches you into orbit.
tim pool
Well, I don't know about that.
ian crossland
I bet they got like underground.
tim pool
You guys give me one argument why we shouldn't nuke Antarctica.
seamus coughlin
There's none.
That proves that.
ian crossland
Because you might harm the scientists that are working on super secret other off-world technology.
They're trying to simulate what it's like to be on Mars down there.
seamus coughlin
What do you guys think?
What would you do if a big solar flare hit tomorrow?
tim pool
Same thing I'm doing right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Probably.
seamus coughlin
What?
No, because you wouldn't even use the computer.
ian crossland
Oh, so what happens for the solar flare?
tim pool
No, no, that's not correct.
We're in a Faraday cage.
seamus coughlin
Oh, really?
tim pool
So we are.
That's why your phones don't work.
So the question is, how strong of a solar flare?
If the big one hit, we are literally in a Faraday cage.
But it's not going to block a massive solar flare like that.
So for those that don't understand, we are in a building in a building.
So the Timcast Studio is a gigantic metal building that acts like a Faraday cage.
Inside of that building is another building.
So the studio is actually, it's like a, I don't know, it's like 2,000 square foot, two-story, four-room structure inside of a gigantic steel-framed building.
And so this makes it impossible for you to use your phone while you're in the building.
ian crossland
So if all the power went out, you mean a solar flare hit that like defied all our preventions, what would you guys do?
What would happen?
Could I still use my phone?
Like, would it still have a charge?
tim pool
No, it would fry.
ian crossland
Everything would blow up.
tim pool
Yeah, so basically what's happening is when the solar, so if you take like a copper circuit and you ever see how they test radio waves, like they take you how it's antennas, magic.
You can actually extract energy from radio waves that are hitting the antennas.
It's just microscopic amounts.
A solar flare blasts your devices and your circuitry with a mass amount of energy so it fries it and it can't work properly.
ian crossland
If it's off, does it still fry it?
Just because the way it's built overcharges it.
tim pool
Literally, antennas will absorb this electromagnetic charge.
So that your devices, every component of it, will absorb the energy and fry.
ian crossland
Would my car be able to start?
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
It's an 06.
seamus coughlin
There are certain components for it.
tim pool
Pre-1968 or something.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
There are certain components you can put.
There's like certain spare parts you can put in a Faraday cage for certain cars so that if a solar flare hits, you could, in theory, put it back into your car and still use it.
But yeah, generally.
ian crossland
If it hit, oh, I don't know how to, I would try and confirm it, and then I'd be like, I don't even know how to confirm it's going to be chop wood or something.
tim pool
So we light a fire.
We need to get getting set up for the Timcast IRL backstage pass for our members on the Discord.
So go to Timcast.com, click join us in the Discord, because we're not stopping.
We're actually going to keep going.
What happens now is we're going to begin pre-production for Timcast IRL and our Discord members get to hang out while we do this.
It's almost like another podcast.
It's just not really, there's no coordination.
We're just literally talking about what we're going to do and we're making jokes and people are getting water.
And then we were pre-recording our episode for tonight starting at 2 p.m.
It's a challenge because Fridays are pretty apocalyptically bad news days unless there's a scandal.
And so I would say more than half of the views we get on Friday night's episode are from Saturday morning, Sunday morning, and Monday morning.
So because people are out Friday nights.
So we decided to start doing a pre-record this way because there's no news after a certain amount of time usually.
And this allows us to do the backstage pass for our members in the afternoon and then go out and do their stuff Friday night and then watch Saturday morning.
It works out really well.
But that means we're going to get to it.
So you've got to join at Timcast.com.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
That's going to do it for our short culture war.
We were trying to have our culture war debates be more focused on more relevant subjects.
And we ended up not like no one's around today.
Everybody had some kind of emergency.
These things happen.
So this is why we did the episode today that we did, but it was fun.
Anyway, Ian, do you want to shine anything out before I go?
ian crossland
Eddie Ian Crossland is my name.
And you can find me.
Well, it's just Ian Crossland at X YouTube Instagram.
Follow me on Instagram.
Check out my ex stuff.
I've been pumping things out through Sora.
Tim and I both have.
Sora.com is ChatGPT's video creation artificial intelligence.
So I uploaded my face, my likeness, my voice, and you can add Ian Crossland me on Sora and make movies with me.
I've been experimenting with it, and it is getting crazy powerful.
I think within two years, it's probably the entertainment industry is probably going to be to the point where you license actors for like $1,000 a second and you can put them into your AI movie and you'll pay their estate.
But I'm going to give my likeness away for free to the human race.
It'll be public domain so anyone can make anything with me forever is ideal.
I think just it's super fun.
So you can find that stuff on Instagram and on IX.
I'm pumping it out there.
Seamus Coglin.
seamus coughlin
My name is Sheamus Coughlin.
I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes.
I have produced over 700 animated videos and on the Freedom Tunes YouTube channel, we have over a million subs and over 290 million views with zero dollars spent on marketing.
And the reason is because people are hungry for alternative entertainment.
They're hungry for entertainment made by people who don't hate them in their way of life.
And today, almost all channels of entertainment media are controlled by radical leftists who hate you, who hate your family, who hate your way of life, and have been slowly chipping away at it with propaganda over the course of decades.
That's why myself and my team are expanding into creating a full-length animated show.
It's an anthology series which delivers a right-wing message with each episode through story and through jokes rather than ham-fisted monologues or preaching.
We've got two weeks left to get fully funded.
And if you support the cause, you will get access to our finished 25-minute long pilot episode.
So go to twistedplots.com, give $25, support the cause.
I've got the team, I've got the experience, and I've got the track record.
If you give me your support, I will be unstoppable and we will create the future of entertainment.
It is right-wing and it is grassroots.
Twistedplots.com.
tim pool
There's another technique, Seamus, I think you gotta learn.
It's called the yes train.
Are you guys familiar with the yes train?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
And if somebody says yes a certain number of times, they're more likely to say yes moving forward to questions of behavior.
So the technique would be something like, Seamus, you like funny cartoons, right?
seamus coughlin
Of course.
tim pool
Of course you do.
And you think we got a problem with leftist indoctrination in our school?
Of course.
Absolutely.
And you really want to do something about it.
Don't you?
seamus coughlin
Of course.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's right.
That's why you're going to give me 50 bucks.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
So typically what you want to do is you want to make them say yes seven times.
ian crossland
Yeah, eight times is a way to memorize.
You repeat something eight times to memorize it.
tim pool
So that's one of it's one of the sales techniques where it's like, listen, you recognize we got a problem with leftist indoctrination in our culture.
Yes.
And you've seen these wacky movies and like the Bud Light thing.
Yes.
And you want someone to do something about it.
Yes.
Well, I can do it.
Here's what I've done.
It looks good, doesn't it?
Yes.
That's why we're going to do X, Y, and Z.
And I know that you really care about this cause.
You've already told me.
Yes.
Okay.
So pull out your credit card.
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Listen, regardless of the pitch or the techniques or whatever, we are building the future here with conservative entertainment.
The right does need to make more content.
We need to make better content.
That's what we're doing here.
The funny thing.
We talk about it a lot.
We talk about how the left dominates the media.
We got to do something about it.
And myself and my team are.
tim pool
You could also try coercion where you say something.
seamus coughlin
I'm just being smart.
tim pool
No, no, no.
seamus coughlin
My audience knows.
tim pool
Maybe you try this, Seamus.
Go to twistedplots.com or I will run over a rabbit.
seamus coughlin
I'm not going to run over a rabbit.
I just want you guys to.
I'm not going to do that.
Do it or the rabbit.
You're going to make a cartoon.
tim pool
We got to go.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We're back for the backstage for Timcast.com Discord members in about a second.
For the rest of you, we will see you tonight at 8 p.m.
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