Trump Threatens INSURRECTION Against Democrats Over Anti ICE Riots ft. Mike Benz
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But based on everything they're doing, Trump's lawyers, his accountants, his media support system, and even his valet, the FBI. Before they indicted his valet because he wouldn't cooperate and turn against Trump, they actually coached him to appear sweaty so that he was out for a, it looked like he was out for a jog rather than meeting secretly with the feds.
They went after every aspect of it.
From Fox News, Trump floats using the Insurrection Act to combat Chicago crime says Pritzker should beg for his help.
We've got some crazy stories over the past weekend.
I know that you've been tracking a lot of this deep state stuff.
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But one thing that we're seeing now, we were just talking about is in Chicago, activists and the media are now alleging that federal law enforcement have begun to defy the courts using tear gas and pepper balls despite a court order barring them from doing so.
Whether it's true or not doesn't matter because we are seeing, again, in Portland, they're arresting conservatives.
They're arresting partisans.
It looks to me like when you go back to the arrest of Donald Trump, the arrest of his lawyers, the accusation that he was a traitor, not to mention everything you've covered, this divide is, we are looking through the glass at an opposition force in this country that I would describe as a separate nation.
Actually, to be fair, this is the words of Stephen Marsh, who wrote the book, The Second Civil War, where he said, you have a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic inside the United States.
With everything you've covered, USAID, all of the funding of this, I'm curious what you see as happening and where you think it'll go.
Street protests are a and paramilitary violence or damage to property is a very important subcomponent of political pressure applied by the uniparty blob fixture, both abroad and at home.
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We know that, for example, when aspects of the U.S. State Department or intelligence agencies or Department of War want to destabilize and empower government, the first thing they do is they use this Gene Shark color revolution, people-powered revolution.
Literally, it's a textbook.
It's called From Dictatorship to Democracy.
It's translated in something like 128 different languages and dialects and given out to protesters.
And usually the front lines are the dispossessed in the country.
They get a coalition of the fringes together.
They get the unemployed people, the drug addicts, young people, union members, criminals, literally.
There's a CIA manual from 1983 on using organized crime for street protests.
And I thought it was very interesting since Antifa is obviously the central theme around these groups.
There's an Antifa blog called Crime Think, which when Trump announced that he would be declaring Antifa a terrorist organization, they put out this kind of article, almost white paper type analysis saying that they weren't yet sure how Trump would enforce the executive order,
whether they would go bottom up, cell by cell through all the different Antifa cells, or whether they would go top down against, quote, massive liberal foundations and endowments, which I thought was an interesting tell.
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It's like Antifa self-reporting about their own structure, that while they purport to be kind of decentralized cell networks, it's all top down from money from these massive liberal foundations.
We're getting a weird demonic feedback from you, where it's like, I don't know if you noticed that every few seconds, there's like a, your voice is replicating at a lower octave.
I don't know.
Well, but we'll fight through it.
I told your producer, so I just moved into a new apartment and I don't have Wi-Fi yet.
Seeing these, you know, in Portland, there's this video from Andy No, and we've heard about Nick Sorter getting attacked and then the police arrest him.
You know, I've tried explaining to these conservatives, they need to understand the ideology of this left liberal multicultural democracy, whatever you want to call it.
When they say that they are going to by any means necessary, they mean it.
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And this assumption that you can trust the law enforcement in jurisdictions controlled by these people, it's crazy that people think they're going to go to Portland.
You are going into Antifa country.
And when you get attacked by Antifa, you walk up to Antifa wearing a badge and say, Mr. Antifa in a badge, will you help me?
And they laugh and they arrest you.
I mean, I think it should be penally obvious to anybody.
When they arrested Trump's lawyers for simply trying to defend him, we are in a whole new territory.
But based on everything they're saying, they arrested Trump's lawyers, his accountants, his media support system, and even his valet, the FBI. Before they indicted his valet because he wouldn't cooperate and turn against Trump, they actually coached him to appear sweaty so that he was out for a, it looked like he was out for a jog rather than meeting secretly with the feds.
But to your point, Tim, think about Letitia James, another one of these Soros-associated fair and just prosecutions, this FJP group, which runs through the Tiger Center and the Soros networks.
Her whole family, it just came out yesterday that not only was she involved in mortgage fraud and has been indicted for that, but in the fraud home, and the irony of all irony, she indicted Trump on effectively housing fraud for inflating the value of Mar-a-Lago, which was an insane case, while she was committing mortgage fraud herself, at least according to the court documents.
But it turns out now, allegedly, she had a niece staying in that house as a fugitive from charges in, I believe it was North Carolina for grand larceny, burglary, and child abuse.
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So you have career criminals who are the career prosecutors in these jurisdictions.
I can only predict that based on what we've seen over the past 10 years, what we're seeing today, it's fairly obvious.
Either the right coalition crushes the left, the left coalition crushes the right, or there's an active kinetic conflict.
I'm curious what you think happens.
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I actually think a lot of it is downstream of the money.
And I think that when you look at Antifa's operations, for example, the fact that Antifa was on the ground in Syria and according to Rolling Stone, the closest ally of the Department of War on the ground during the CIA's Operation Timber Sycamore.
You look at Antifa's actions in Germany, assisting the Victoria Newland blob against the AFD party, or Antifa in France, assisting the Biden blob, the Biden-Obama blob against Maureen Le Pen.
You look at Antifa becoming this giant, this giant sort of vaccine enforcement mob that was breaking up anti-vax.
You look at their climate change orthodoxy.
You can go to Yoranon Central, the anonymous group account on Twitter with millions of followers that is kind of this unofficial voice from the ether of Antifa.
And every single one of the political opponents that Antifa has is an opponent of George Soros, of Joe Biden, of Barack Obama.
And it's also an enforcement mechanism for their financial ecosystem.
And I think this is a major, major thing to track as the treasury is leaking to sanction these groups internationally and prevent, as they're being designated essentially an international terrorist group, which I think is the right way to go about it, because this is an international network who explicitly endorses violence.
But that has been harbored within our own international facing agencies.
I did a stream recently on the U.S. Institute of Peace, which has many of these figures in their street mob organizing.
They call it the non-violent action program, but it explicitly endorses violence.
Of course, they have a support system through the National Lawyers Guild to pay for their legal fees, to pay for their, to bail them out.
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We saw the attorney general of the entire state of Minnesota holding up the Mark Bray Antifa handbook while he's in charge of the entire criminal justice system in Minnesota where the George Floyd riots popped off.
How do you think that filters down into the local prosecutors when the attorney general, the entire state is holding up the Antifa handbook?
And Mark Bray, who wrote that handbook and tried to flee the country this week and was stopped as he, right?
But his parting words on Blue Sky were to continue the resistance, quote, legal or not.
And these are the people in charge of the legal system.
I think, I don't know what the status of that was, is currently, but last week he announced that he was fleeing to Spain.
And I think because he's likely under FBI investigation, I don't know if they put a pause on his passport and took him in for questioning, but this was widely reported in the news.
You know, they reported him as, I think, a Rutgers professor or I forget which university, Northeastern.
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But you see this, there's this money network, and it starts at the hedge funds and the private equity funds.
And they sponsor the political class.
They sponsor your Barack Obama's, your Joe Biden's, but they also invest region by region in all the different industries and businesses that Antifa serves to support.
Think about this.
When Antifa goes and breaks up an anti-Pfizer protest, who is that good for?
George Soros has massive investments in companies like AstraZeneca and J ⁇ J and massive investments in the climate space.
I reported this in Brazil, for example, where these pro-Lula mobs break up Bolsonaro meetings.
Well, the first thing Lula did after being backed by the State Department and these George Soros networks was to implement these ethanol mandates so that you by force of the government, you had to buy from companies, portfolio companies that the George Soros Management Fund had already taken giant long investments in.
So Toros made about $185 million through his management fund simply for installing a candidate who forced people to buy the products and services of George Soros companies.
You see the same thing with the Al Gore climate.
Al Gore is a multi-billionaire now because of his hedge fund that basically takes these positions on climate investments.
Bill Gates has the same, his Breakthrough Ventures, which is a major climate fund.
And you have these Antifa, you know, eco-fascist, eco-terror, eco-fascist terrorism types who are doing this work through Antifa.
I think if you shut down the money at the university level, and Trump is trying to do this through this university compact and hedging the grants, $9 billion in grants were owed to the Harvard endowment, effectively, or Harvard University, until Trump just cut off about $7 billion of that, $400 million to Columbia, $2 billion to Yale.
All of this funds the professoriate class who teaches the theory.
These teachers double as organizers.
For example, Mark Bray, who wrote the Antifa handbook that Keith Ellison was holding up, and Mark Bray openly on social media saying engage in these actions, legal or not.
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He is doubling as a professor and an organizer of the students.
But it is curious as to why he was initially turned back.
And I have to, they're investing.
I mean, Glenn Beck said that the FBI came to his house and sat down with him for, I think, several hours to go over what he knows about these organizing groups.
And it's fascinating because there was a, I was talking about this earlier, a podcast from the Bulwark.
And this is what we see from these liberals.
They mocked Glenn Beck for talking with the FBI about Antifa, but offered up no rebuttal or criticism other than to just laugh.
It's the weirdest thing, the world these people live in.
They say, haha, Glenn Beck meant the FBI. They'll start laughing.
Wow, he's so dumb.
The FBI is so dumb.
Ha ha.
They didn't actually tell me why it was wrong or what was going on.
And so what I end up seeing, you know, you make a great point with the, that Antifa becomes the enforcer of all things, the blob, the machine state.
There was a anti-mask protest.
It was protesters who said mask mandates are wrong.
Antifa physically attacked them, started punching these people.
Why is Antifa going out and beating up some random old guy who doesn't want to wear a mask?
I think that there is a middle path through, which is instead of the helium in the balloon getting so intense that the whole thing pops, there is, I think, a way to let air out of the balloon simply by squeezing the money supply.
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And this is sort of the strategy that I'm articulating here.
And I think there's lots of ways to do this.
So one of the things that's really fascinating about this network is how much it simulates clandestine, what did they call it?
And it's very interesting, just to come back to this Spain thing.
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In Spain, this is another major blob node.
The blob has been trying to stop the Vox party in Spain by any means possible, in large part because of the energy policy advocated by the Spanish Vox Party.
Spain is one of the major ports through which LNG is transported, this transition fuel away from oil.
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And they say that natural, gas is effectively this transport through on the way to clean energy.
And so part of bombing the Nord Stream pipeline, part of the strategy for many of these major gas companies was to play on liquefied natural gas, where you have all this Houston gas that can be transported through LNG to ports in Spain, Portugal, and Poland.
Those are the major hubs to take the market that Russia used to have.
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And you'll note these Antifa networks were all, you know, Trump equals Putin.
They're magically, you know, while they have folks saying, oh, you know, Putin is bringing back communism and the like and authoritarianism.
Suddenly, they're not opposed.
They're completely aligned with the CIA on it.
But what I'll know on Spain is the blob has run operations against the right-wing populist Vox party in Spain for a very long time now.
In fact, the same forces in Poland, Anne Applebaum, who was almost the first lady of Poland.
She's married currently to the foreign minister, their head of the State Department, Radek Sikorsky, who, as soon as the Nord Stream pipeline was bombed, creating a massive market in Spain, because now instead of Russian gas, they'd have to ship in LNG through Spain.
Radek Sikorsky in Poland tweeted out, thank you, USA. And it just came out today.
Tim, today, Poland instructed the German government to stop its investigation of the Nord Stream pipeline bombing.
Wow.
This is an incredible thing because the Germans arrested a Ukrainian diving team and they don't want Germany to get to the real answer of who exactly how deep it goes, given, for example, that U.S. intelligence took over for Ukrainian intelligence in 2014, as reported by the New York Times day one post-Maidan coup.
They don't want Germany investigating who was complicit in the Nord Stream pipeline.
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And it's the same folks who are involved in Spain, but Radek Sikorsky's wife, Anne Applebaum, who's on the board of the National Endowment for Democracy, one of the biggest CIA fronts in the entire United States arsenal.
She ran this operation in 2015 called the Integrity Initiative, where they had this, they called it a network of networks, which is the exact phrase that Michael Lodenthal uses in his books, in his book, The Politics of Attack, this Antifa guidebook on Antifa tactics, promoting them.
And it's a clandestine network of networks where they recruited decentralized cluster cells.
This is literally in the orientation manual, where they gave strict OPSEC instructions to be, quote, helpfully uninformative about the leadership structure and the funding of the organization.
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And her group worked behind the scenes.
This all came out publicly in these late documents to eliminate Pedro Banos, who was going to be the defense minister in Spain, and to run this covert operation to destroy his nomination.
But what I'm saying is, this is something for the ODNI.
If ODNI can pull, for example, you know 100% that the CIA and DOD worked with Antifa on the ground in Syria.
I believe you will see, if you were to simply run a keyword search for anti-fascist or antifa or any of the associated keyword terms in Germany, you will find the same thing under the Under Secretary for Political Affairs, Victoria Newland, as she ran the Biden administration's political section of the State Department.
I think if you just pull all the political section at state, all the USA files in terms of groups that went to quote anti-fascist groups, you go to ODNI and you look at, for example, the CIA occupied the entire top floor of the State Department in the 20th century in the Paris office.
I bet you will find the links in France.
You will find the links in Switzerland.
You will find the links.
I think that this network relies on clandestine, tight OPSEC in order to prevent public disclosure of leadership and funding.
And I believe they were a tool of statecraft.
So in addition to the treasury actions on sanctioning, in addition to the FBI and DHS actions at law enforcement, I believe you need effectively an Antifa files for the U.S. federal government the same way we had MLK files and JFK files.
And I believe that could destroy the network by simply making it all public.
You know, you know that you were a target of the deep state a long time ago.
You probably know better than I do, but the first time we had you on Timcast IRL, to me, it was uneventful.
I'm saying just another day, just another guest, I got in the weirdest way a bunch of tweets, even DMs from people who were somewhat associated with either left-wing activism or groups that told me not to have you on the show.
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Some of them were things like, you're actually having that guy on your show?
And I was weirded out by this because I'm like, you've not given me an argument.
And certainly Mike Benz is not the most shocking and controversial person we've ever booked for the show.
But some of these individuals were anti-follow aligned liberal people that I've known since like Occupy sending me DMs.
And they were trying to insinuate that there was some kind of, this is weird.
I've never gotten the reaction to any guest the way the reaction I got to you with these activists messaging me with no real stance, grounds, or political argument as to why I should not have you on the show.
And they were saying something like, LOL, Mike Benz, gross.
As if to like make me worried about you being on show.
And I'm like, I don't care.
Shut up.
But it really seemed like a coordinated attack on me, trying to get me scared of some kind of backlash or cancellation to you appearing on the show, of course, was a totally normal show where you laid out a lot of these positions, the investigation and the work that you've done.
I think seeing all of this, it is part of this network, a coordinate effort.
When Trump was accused and real clear investigations reported the accuser must be Eric Chiaramella.
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If you said his name on YouTube, they would delete the video instantly on Facebook.
You can say on Twitter either.
If on Facebook you wrote Eric Charmella, the post would vanish instantly.
And then to a lesser degree, the strange experience I had was when you were booked for the show for the first time, all of these weird people popping out of the woodwork trying to get me to not have you on the show.
Have you experienced more than that?
You know, it's so funny because they're afraid of losing the money.
There are folks who sense that I'm close with the admin in terms of them following my account and many of the NGOs getting defunded that I've been naming.
But what's the strangest thing was I think the first time I was on your show was probably early 2024-ish.
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And during that.
Yeah, maybe 2023.
But during the transition, I had about a half dozen NGO representatives reach out to me and plea for their lives, effectively plea for their funding lives saying, I know that we've done some things wrong and in the past, but we can bring our organization into alignment as long as we have the grants and capacity to do it.
And so I think a lot of this just comes down to the money, which is that they have relied on weasel words and lie language.
And my job has been to code that for policymakers.
But Tim, they went after you in an unbelievable way.
I don't know if, I mean, if you've seen some of the extent of it, I posted a video a while back about how you were targeted during the 2020 election using AI scan and ban technology.
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Um, the you were targeted by the Atlantic Council, which has seven CIA directors on its board, and annual funding from the Pentagon, the State Department, USAID, and the National Center for Democracy.
The Atlanta Council, Grafica, the University of Washington, and the Stanford Internet Observatory fingered you and actually gave a case study of how you amplified a major narrative about what was it?
And they used this AI, it was available, and Facebook kind of shut it down as it's moved over to this more free speech-oriented model.
But they used to have this open source for outside researchers, these are all operatives, so that you could use this essentially AI tool as an API to get the internal effectively narrative tracking.
You could get the origin of who he retweeted it from and who they retweeted it from, who they quote tweeted it from.
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And you could create this whole narrative network map.
And they finger you as the moment that this narrative around ballot harvesting went from sort of fringier accounts to hit like this giant mainstream that amplified its way to the White House.
And they essentially said, This is the class that we need to cut off.
They were very concerned at the time in 2020 before Trump got formally banned in early 2021 about what they called the martyr effect.
They felt like they didn't have the political capital to nuke Donald Trump's account or Don Jr.'s account.
And so they commissioned actually the National Science Foundation funds to deal to study how to minimize the quote the martyr effect or effectively the Streisand effect from censoring someone.
And they came up with top-down models, bottom-up models, random partial ban things where they would create this network and they'd say, okay, well, we can't ban Trump, but here are the top lieutenants that he retweets from.
And here are the giant sort of tranches of small accounts that nobody knows and doesn't have brand recognition.
So if we censor 65% of the small accounts, but we keep the top accounts, we can kill the amplifications model.
And this is probably the only thing stopping Nick Snorter from being in jail right now.
If you remember, the Portland police made a tweet.
We understand that there's been an arrest warrant against an individual with a large number of social media followers.
That's probably the only reason they dropped the case was because of the blowback from that.
One last thing before we wrap is it's amazing to hear you say this because this is exactly what I predicted was happening following the 2018 mass censorship of conservatives.
What we saw was overnight, recommendations dropped by like 90%.
And what I explained to people was what they're engaging in is a pressure system where they don't want to ban every conservative outright because that would create a massive backlash.
What they want to do is play a math game.
We call this in poker EV plus EV expected value positive or negative.
They want to create a system by which they tilt the scales so that over a long enough period of time, the left ideology expands and the right contracts.
So instead of just outright banning all the conservatives, every month you ban a small conservative and restrict their ability to communicate.
I actually think recently the views on my Timcast News channel skyrocketed.
And it was after I pointed out that I believed my channel.
So it was like a month ago, I said, I believe legacy censorship weights still exist on my channel from the Biden administration.
What happened?
Two weeks later, my views doubled, which indicates someone at Google heard me say it, went and checked, because this happened before in I think it was 2021.
You couldn't Google search Timcast IRL or Timcast.