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| they don't speak English, right? | ||
| You probably saw this doing the rounds yesterday. | ||
| There was this, I don't even know if we can. | ||
| You've probably seen this. | ||
| Yeah, so I'll pause right there. | ||
| It's a really gruesome video is these truckers who evidently entered the country illegally. | ||
| They got a CDL in Gavin Newsom's California and they were in Florida and they just do an illegal U-turn because in India you can do that. | ||
| Can't do that in the United States, obviously, because it results in death. | ||
| And yes, if you've been on roads recently, you have noticed the dip in driving quality from truckers. | ||
| I think everyone can resonate with this, including American truckers. | ||
| I've also, I put a tweet out the other day, and it's true is I'm noticing an increase in billboards in Hindi for truck stops or advertising Indian food. | ||
| So it's becoming a huge problem. | ||
| And homeland security is all over it. | ||
| Three innocent people were killed in Florida because Gavin Newsom's California DMV issued an illegal alien a commercial driver's license. | ||
| The state of governance is asinine. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| How many more innocent people have to die before Gavin Newsom stops playing games with the safety of the American people. | ||
| We pray for the victims and their families. | ||
| Secretary Noam and DHS are working around the clock to protect the public and get these criminal, illegal aliens out of America. | ||
| So, yeah, everything, at least talk about immigration. | ||
| You see people on the left and they say, well, I don't care how people come into the country. | ||
| Why should I care? | ||
| I mean, you'll care when three people that you know and love, or presumably that's how many, here it says right here, three Americans. | ||
| You'll know when three people you know and love are killed because of the foolish behavior of these illegals here. | ||
| And especially because they're being done at the hands of Democrats. | ||
| Like Florida's got their bases covered here, right? | ||
| The alligator Alcatraz, the Florida government is definitely endorsing ISIS operations. | ||
| It's these states like California pushing back is just leading to Americans dying for no reason. | ||
| just absurd absurd we don't have to live like this this was a this was a interesting study a few years ago from the annual review of political studies talking about diversity and social trust, about how immigration just across the board is leading to a decline in social trust. | ||
| And I mean, you're seeing it right here with just basic institutions breaking down. | ||
| And then obviously you have the more broad theme of social trust breaking down, which everyone's aware of. | ||
| And if you don't accept that presupposition, then why do you have your doors locked? | ||
| And that was not a ubiquitous thing in the United States not too long ago. | ||
| It's a fascinating study. | ||
| The abstract here is they... | ||
| diversity of thought, everything. | ||
| It basically dilutes your country's culture, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| CIS, the Center for Immigration Studies, backed this up. | ||
| They broke down this study further. | ||
| We're kind of running, we've got a little time crunch here, so I can't get into it too deep, but this is a fascinating read. | ||
| And the social trust, I mean, we're seeing it all across all across the every every metric. | ||
| This was the viral graph from Nathan, who we're going to be joined here by shortly. | ||
| And it was everywhere. | ||
| The estimated percent percentage of 30-year-olds who are both married and homeowners was over 50% in 1960, and then just plummets, plummets to now where we're at like 8%. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm not directly correlating this to immigration, but it's so obvious that social trust in the United States and quality of life, broadly speaking, has just cratered, cratered in this country. | ||
| And immigration is a huge part of it. | ||
| I mean, if you don't know who your neighbors are and where they come from and how they think. | ||
| I mean, how are we supposed to, how are we supposed to mend this, mend this shattered fabric, social fabric? | ||
| You know, Tucker Carlson and Aaron McIntyre had a great discussion yesterday discussing this about how we're going to have to define what an American is because as the ICE operation ramps up further, that's going to be a very important question to ask. | ||
| So on things on topics of social trust, immigration, everything broadly speaking, we're going to bring Nathan Halberstadt in here. | ||
| We're getting it set up. | ||
| Hello, Nathan, can you hear me? | ||
| Yeah, I can hear you. | ||
| Dude, what's up? | ||
| So thanks for coming on. | ||
| Can you tell the viewers who you are, what you do? | ||
| Yeah, my name's Nathan Halberstadt. | ||
| I work at New Founding. | ||
| We're a venture firm focused on critical civilizational problems. | ||
| For the most part, we're looking at investing in founders who are sort of doged here. | ||
| tier type individuals for young patriots who are trying to build important things for the future of America. | ||
| And I'm super excited to be here. | ||
| Everybody recently has been talking about Take Cast. | ||
| I was listening to the front half of the show and, you know, you didn't just call yourself a patriot. | ||
| I guess you called yourself a former Husky patriot. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You'll have to lock that one away for the future. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| I mean, look, God made me love so much. | ||
| He made a little extra of me. | ||
| That's what my grandmother told me as a child. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm going to deploy that in the future, probably later today with a few people. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's talk about the soft launch. | ||
| Yeah, soft launch. | ||
| Well, I wanted to get into it. | ||
| We were discussing the ICE situation and also the last few days we've been discussing the DC crackdown pretty extensively. | ||
| I know you were in El Salvador recently and you had some thoughts on how El Salvador's approach to these sorts of social disorder themes has been. | ||
| Can you maybe break that down now that you're back in the States? | ||
| Yeah, so I just got back from the land of the philosopher King. | ||
| King Bukele and so I was in San Salvador which is the the capital of El Salvador and you know this place used to be the crime capital of the world and and And in just a short number of years, it's now incredibly safe. | ||
| And I was looking at some of the data just before coming on this, coming on this, coming on the show on tapecast. | ||
| And, you know, it's actually quite shocking. | ||
| And you feel it when you're out there. | ||
| So I was walking around at night. | ||
| About every other block does have an armed soldier on the corner. | ||
| But just comparing it to DC, if you're walking around DuPont Circle in DC or around the hill or these areas, just the sense that there are just a large number of unsavory characters where literally anything could happen is always present. | ||
| El Salvador, everybody was friendly. | ||
| It was nice. | ||
| Just walk around 10 p.m. midnight. | ||
| El Salvador went from the murder and crime capital of the world to they have a homicide rate of around 2 per 100,000 people. | ||
| Whereas in Washington, D.C., we're at 27,000 people, right? | ||
| So we have more than 10 times the rate of this place that is basically or was formerly dominated by cartels. | ||
| And so to me, the interesting story here is that, I mean, I used to live in DC, right? | ||
| And crime was kind of a problem. | ||
| It still is. | ||
| You know, I posted a photo on Twitter of, you know, one mile from the White House, $4 toothpaste is locked up. | ||
| And people will try to tell you that crime is down, but it's obviously not in a place like DC. | ||
| And most saliently recently, our boy, heroic patriot, Big Balls, was attacked. | ||
| And he's working with Doge. | ||
| He's helping serve the country. | ||
| And he was attacked brutally uh you know he's at this a photo of him out in front of an ambulance just sort of bleed you know bleeding on the street so i mean it's really excellent to see trump bringing the national guard in and and i think really the lesson of el salvador is that like this stuff works it can be criminals the crime right it went from significantly higher to one tenth of our crime rate in just a couple of years. | ||
| I saw a post also just recently from the DC Police Union. | ||
| I think they posted this yesterday. | ||
| It's like at DC Police Union. | ||
| And it shows that in DC, just since the announcement of federal controls, just in the past seven days, robbery down 46%, carjacking down 83%, violent crime down 22 uh etc etc so you know it just it just shows if you just if you just actually enforce the law you can you can solve a lot of these um you know you can solve a lot of these problems so so you know i think being in el salvador el salvador is still poor it still has its issues um it's kind of this interesting mix of of | ||
| you know sort of native people on the way up and and sort of like international bitcoiners and such who I mind them out there in San Salvador, but I'm pretty optimistic about we could learn a few things here in America. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think it's the shift that's happening. | ||
| I mean, Bukele probably had a part to play in it as far as, you know, demonstrating to the sort of right-wing rising elite that you can wield power in effective ways. | ||
| But it is refreshing to see that Trump is very aware that. | ||
| of the mechanisms that he has at his disposal and doesn't seem to be afraid to deploy those mechanisms whenever he needs as we're seeing in DC. | ||
| But kind of the bigger issue, I mean, obviously cleaning up our cities is a priority. | ||
| But you're not going to really solve the root of those issues without addressing the immigration, specifically the illegal immigration problem. | ||
| And that's where he's really beefed up ice. | ||
| I mean, that was a priority of the big beautiful bill was, you know, Alec. | ||
| Bill was allocating billions and billions of dollars to ICE. | ||
| But I was covering earlier that you probably saw it was the trucker in Florida who killed three Americans because he decided to do an India-style U-turn in the middle of the highway. | ||
| I mean, you're the chart master. | ||
| That's what I dubbed you earlier. | ||
| What sort of ways are you seeing immigration impacting social trust in a more specific way? | ||
| Yeah, that's the right question. | ||
| I think we see in the data that, you know, over the past few decades, social trust has been declining. | ||
| And to be really specific, what we mean by social trust is if there is a stranger next to you, let's say in your town or city, somebody who's just walking by, you can sort of survey somebody on like, are you likely to trust them or not? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So how reliable do you expect that person to be who's sort of around you in your location? | ||
| And what we've seen over time is that people's response to that has been declining drastically. | ||
| So where it used to be the case that somebody who you know you sort of going by on the street you could sort of plausibly ask them for help with something or you know have some casual conversation in line or whatever else you know increasingly people are shifting away from that. | ||
| And there's a lot of theories in terms of what's actually driving this. | ||
| I think technology is something that is definitely playing a role. | ||
| The fact that people cuts in more or are just on their phones more. | ||
| So we can't discount some of those explanations. | ||
| But the role that migration has played, I think, is under discussed. | ||
| So, you know, the fact of the matter is that when you're surrounded by people who don't share your values or your life ways, maybe don't even speak the same language as you, you know, you can't really count on them because, you know, you might ask for something or ask them a question. | ||
| and it's really quite unpredictable how they'd respond because they could be from from anywhere sort of believe anything again there's no guarantee they will even be able to understand you and you know in certain in certain major american cities you get to a point where you know new york chicago etc boston you know 25 to 50 percent of the population is foreign born. | ||
| You know, at those sorts of levels, it becomes just the case that you can't really trust anybody around you. | ||
| No idea where they're from. | ||
| You don't really know what their agenda is. | ||
| And to come back to this trucker incident, right? | ||
| So this is, you know, this was a trucker who came into America, did not have papers, somehow got a commercial driver's license. | ||
| And I think that that's something that has to be looked at more closely. | ||
| I saw at least some sort of a note that the Trump administration is looking at doing paper checks basically at truck weighing stations. | ||
| I absolutely support that. | ||
| But you can sort of imagine a situation where somebody came in from, let's say India. | ||
| They came to America and they learned to drive elsewhere. | ||
| And all of a sudden they're driving this massive piece of metal at 80 miles per hour. | ||
| And there's just like no telling what they're going to do. | ||
| You know, you might have a daughter or like a niece or something that she's driving, you know, obeying the laws. | ||
| And, and the, you know, it's similar to, you know, you could think about like foreign doctors and nurses and things like that. | ||
| If they're coming to America, we want to do a whole series of vetting, checking, relicensing them. | ||
| You don't really want to accept a surgery from somebody from some other part of the world. | ||
| You don't really know what their experience level is. | ||
| really know where they learned, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| You know, it would be good in America if we sort of made sure that the people who are on the roads, you know, are, let's say, trained and should actually be on our roads. | ||
| And that means removing illegal immigrants from our roads for the most part. | ||
| And that's just one piece of this sort of whole social trust thing, right? | ||
| It's like, you know, you can't rely on the person next to you on the road now, right? | ||
| And that's sort of a scary part about where all of this is going. | ||
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| I mean, there's already enough female drivers. | ||
| Do we really need these elite? | ||
| I mean, geez, right now, I'm just kidding. | ||
| We love females, especially female drivers. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, that's the thing is I'm sitting there thinking, I'm like, do we really have a shortage of truckers? | ||
| I mean, I don't recall seeing any headlines or articles. | ||
| To me, this just seems like an underhanded attempt from these logistics companies to undercut Americans. | ||
| And we're seeing this all across the board. | ||
| The H1B situation, obviously, is in desperate need of addressing. | ||
| I mean, I know you've hit on the H1B visa situation really hard. | ||
| You're obviously in tech adjacent, tech industry. | ||
| What are you seeing on the H1B front? | ||
| I mean, are we moving in a good direction on this or what? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you raised a really excellent point here, which is, you know, isn't, I mean, we have, let's say in the trucker industry, right? | ||
| You know, AI is coming right around the bend here. | ||
| And so I think it's a, it's a national priority to make sure that our existing American truck drivers continue to thrive, right? | ||
| And whatever that looks like, there's probably some level of protectionism there's probably some um there's a variety of things we can we can get into into here but but basically autonomous driving is going to seriously cut down the number of or has the potential to seriously cut down the number of available trucking jobs if at the same time we're just giving up giving away the remaining truck truck jobs to to whatever they are whether it's h1bs or just any sort of sort of foreign labor You know, that's adding pressure to an already quite difficult situation. | ||
| So, you know, if we think about the H1B situation more broadly, there was a report in Fortune mag that, and this was about two weeks ago, that 60% of new college grads from the class of 2025. | ||
| So these are the guys that you and I know who are just graduating right now, guys and girls who are wrapping up their college education. | ||
| 60% of them are unemployed or underemployed. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And they just graduated in May. | ||
| It's now mid-August. | ||
| And so when you hear these stories about young people who are unhappy with sort of this set of available opportunities, you have to understand that this is like there is a burning platform here. | ||
| There's a serious problem. | ||
| Now, it's not all about the H1Bs. | ||
| It's probably two things. | ||
| Again, it's AI. | ||
| Increasingly, the ChatGPT and other AI tools can do entry-level, let's say, analysts and associate-level work and associate a law firm you know they used to do all the reading through things and now chat gpt can do it um analysts used to you know make slide decks make graphs etc etc you can kind of just you can a more senior person can just prompt that so there's a little bit of a situation where the ladder is coming up naturally but i think then that makes people much more sensitive to the fact that when they see the ladder coming up but the people who are grabbing | ||
| the ladder are h1bs they're not even americans that's something that i think is extremely politically sensitive and it should be you know those those opportunities should be going to americans and the economy is shifting in a whole bunch of different ways and uh you know we need to make sure basically that there are opportunities for young people it's not just about like handing out jobs left and right that are meaningless. | ||
| It's like helping them to find things that are meaningful that they can build a life with. | ||
| And whether it's help, you know, encouraging them to become founders in companies or just joining ICE and helping save the homeland or whatever it is, you know, we need to step in and make sure that there are serious job opportunities where, you know, they can get married, have kids, buy a home. | ||
| And if we're failing on that, then we're failing on everything. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you just see all these metrics like you're bringing up. | ||
| You're seeing these headlines coming out of how radical Zoomers and now we're starting to see Gen Alpha's politics are, how distrustful they are of institutions, how distrustful they are of, let's just say, the establishment, broadly speaking. | ||
| It's tough to see a situation in which you don't get a violent, maybe not violent, but a visceral reaction from the younger generations. | ||
| I mean, I would assume that getting out of this and giving Zoomers opportunity is just a matter of national security at this point. | ||
| I mean, if you consider the palpable anger that you're seeing from that generation, or this generation, our generation, I mean, it just feels like a ticking time bomb, really. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if you're seeing this on your end. | ||
| Yeah, and I think there's just enough specific examples floating around that Gen Alpha and Gen Z have access to. | ||
| You know, there was an example about a month back and there was this gentleman. | ||
| His name was Soham Perek. | ||
| And he was, you know, he's from India. | ||
| He essentially. | ||
| was in some sort of a debt problem, a debt situation. | ||
| He said that he was in some sort of a, in some sort of, in some sort of a bind, basically. | ||
| And he was rotating up to six jobs at a time, sort of engineer jobs at Y Combinator tier startups. | ||
| So these are excellent. | ||
| Think about like an Uber in its earlier stages or something like this, right? | ||
| So he was rotating through around six of them at a time, getting fired though. | ||
| And then as soon as he got fired, you just get another one. | ||
| Because he wasn't doing a good job. | ||
| And actually, a lot of them didn't get those jobs, right? | ||
| And so that's where this gets a little bit more interesting, right? | ||
| And so he was invited on TVPN to do an interview. | ||
| And then during that interview, again, he said, like, you know, I did this because of some debt or duress. | ||
| And then, but then he sort of rapidly pivots and says, but I don't care about the money. | ||
| I just want to build, right? | ||
| And that's like, that's such an obvious lie. | ||
| Like any, any Gen Z or Genomic person just looks at that and goes like, okay, here's a foreign grifter who's abusing our labor market. | ||
| And, and, and like notably, he's in the visa process to come here to the United States permanently, right? | ||
| So, so like, you know, I think I'm a pretty, I'm a moderate guy. | ||
| Like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm an American. | ||
| I want there to be, I want there to be jobs and opportunities and things for like, for, you know, like my siblings and my friends and, you know, my kids and grandkids. | ||
| And like, you know, we can't. | ||
| We can't have that and also have, you know, hundreds of thousands of SoHem-Barack sort of swimming around doing this sort of stuff. | ||
| And those stories are just so available to us now, right? | ||
| They were probably not as available. | ||
| Like, was CNN covering this sort of stuff? | ||
| Would it have even gotten coverage, pre-social media? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| So, you know, again, I'm like personally against him, you know, somebody like this, somebody's drifting off of our labor market, you know, it would be an interesting question. | ||
| That was about a month. | ||
| back like what is he still in the visa process um you know is he is he is he in america right now like should he be in america right now uh those are i think very very you know rational questions to ask and i think if you if you care at all about about the next generation of americans um you know you know you need to hold a harder line on these issues especially given what we're going to be going through with ai Yeah, | ||
| I mean, well, it really just begs the question of like, if I'm an American citizen, what is the point of being an American citizen if I'm having to compete with the entire world for domestic, you know, domestic resources like housing and jobs and whatnot. | ||
| I mean, you're seeing in the UK this problem on steroids where there's article after article there where they're like, we have to build four million houses or we're going to have like a homelessness crises. | ||
| And then they're also simultaneously allowing millions of migrants in a year who the vast, vast majority of them are not providing an upgrade in any department. | ||
| And oftentimes they end up on social housing. | ||
| Obviously, the situation is a bit different in America because we don't have, you know. | ||
| super extensive social programs here but we do the ones that we do have we are starting to see maybe not starting we've been seeing um yeah migrants coming in and just immediately utilizing these resources. | ||
| I mean, Minnesota is a great example. | ||
| That's a rabbit hole that I would encourage Tim Cass viewers to go down, specifically relating to their elected officials. | ||
| I mean, without mass deportations, where are we going to be? | ||
| Is the UK really our future? | ||
| Well, hopefully not. | ||
| Hopefully not. | ||
| I mean, at least in London and some of these other cities, it's getting quite ugly. | ||
| The United Kingdom, one of the problems that they face is basically that the right in the United Kingdom is less serious. | ||
| I mean, the Tories are fundamentally unserious, I would say. | ||
| And beyond that as well, any sort of opposition to mass migration is crushed. | ||
| They don't have the same level of free speech. | ||
| So those are two things that really, I think, hold them back. | ||
| So I think we should be very thankful here in America that we have free speech. | ||
| And I would say MAGA is a serious right-wing party. | ||
| I'm sure there are ways that it could always be improved. | ||
| But I think there's a lot to be grateful for here. | ||
| And I think we're making forward progress. | ||
| In terms of just more broadly, where does all of this go for America? | ||
| Americans and and and like how should how should you know average let's say investors business owners, even young people be thinking about like the political, cultural sort of macro situation. | ||
| You know, this guides a lot of our investing, I would say, in startups is I think that the sort of challenges that Gen Z and Gen Alpha are facing in combination with everything else going on in the world lead us to think that this will be an era of greater instability, greater political radicalism, of course, right? | ||
| Deglobalization is another theme that we think a lot about, right? | ||
| So in a world where people are more conscious of people like Soren Parek, who we just talked about, and more opposed to it, expecting more tariffs to go up, expecting more focus on sort of domestic labor. | ||
| And really what a lot of that should hopefully do is actually begin to solve the social trust problem. | ||
| And like a society cannot survive if the social trust gets low enough. | ||
| If you can't count on anybody, then you're like not a society anymore. | ||
| You're just a bunch of individual people, maybe families, maybe groups of friends. | ||
| And so we think a lot about sort of repositioning for that sort of new economic and social paradigm. | ||
| And so I think for business owners and such, it's thinking about how you actually get ahead of this, right? | ||
| There are probably interesting regulations and policy shifts, just like the tariffs going in place. | ||
| place that but beyond the tariffs it's not just going to be that there's more coming uh and and then the other thing that i would mention just for for people in general is um you know as you think about like ai slop on the internet and just like the effects of ai across the board you know ai is going to replace a lot of it's very likely to replace a lot of types of work that in some ways we rely on either like foreign labor for And it should transfer a lot of value to very capable young Americans if they are high agency enough and they leverage AI effectively. | ||
| But AI slop on the internet, I anticipate continuing to be a problem. | ||
| Like you can imagine a world where, you know, we're messaging back and forth about coming on the show today. | ||
| And I message you. | ||
| And you have some AI agent that actually just replies to me. | ||
| And we like, we sort of get booked to go on this, to go on this show together. | ||
| But maybe neither of us even saw the message. | ||
| It was just our AI agents who were replying to each other. | ||
| Now, of course, there are sort of solutions to this and such. | ||
| But then, you know, you open your Twitter feed and it's like, the people liking my posts aren't real. | ||
| The people, the posts are generated, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| So like, what does that world look like in my view? | ||
| In my view, that forces a lot of people back to the in-person and real and physical world. | ||
| And that's where like in-person networks, the firm handshake, the people at your church, the people who live right next to you begins to matter a lot more because the digital ecosystem becomes less reliable. | ||
| It's like, think about how your inbox is just like so flooded with spam. | ||
| It's like, I imagine a world where that's just like, that's just like everything on the internet. | ||
| It's just increasingly, increasingly sort of a proliferation of AI slop across everything on your phone. | ||
| There'll be an arms race between that and the filters, of course. | ||
| But that's sort of some of the way that I think about like what's coming for Americans in the years ahead. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we had Nate Fisher on and he had an interesting idea that it makes a lot of sense and it seems to be borne out so far is that increased utilization of AI in the labor force could actually free up or eliminate a lot of these laptop jobs or a lot of these fake jobs. | ||
| And it could actually sort of force Americans to return to a more classically American way of living and structuring their families and these sorts of things. | ||
| As in, it could free up resources for these companies where they can allocate more to wages. | ||
| We could potentially return to people being able to support a family on a single income, which is really exciting stuff, but this obviously also requires restriction on immigration because if you don't have that then you're just going to have a much larger labor labor market and then it'll just be a I mean disaster but yeah there are a lot of reasons yeah there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic I share I share Nate Fisher's perspective on this I think and I think you're right to add the layer that that deportations and | ||
| and this is this is critical to this actually this this shift sort of going well for us as Americans and I've I've written about something that I call digital enclaves and the idea just to sort of describe it briefly is that you know digital technology enables modern migrants to they're basically hovering in an entirely parallel cultural and economic ecosystem, but it's online, right? | ||
| So if you think about an immigrant today in America, right, they can basically use their own set of banking apps. | ||
| They're on WhatsApp. | ||
| They're in their own sort of set of group chats. | ||
| They're watching foreign television. | ||
| In many cases, they don't even learn the language for, you know, for even sometimes a shockingly long period of time. | ||
| You can meet these people who are 30 years into being in America and they don't speak English, right? | ||
| And that's interesting to me, right? | ||
| It's, there's, there's from a theory perspective, right, there's been a notable shift where, you know, if you left like Stockholm in 1800 or 1850 came to america like it was everything was severed right yeah you came to america you were american now you assimilated you learned you learned english quickly and and and you were you were a part of this project fully and in every sense you know the number of these more recent migrants who are like one toe in right uh is is is shocking and and | ||
| i'm not actually convinced that like assimilation in the same sense is even possible right so i'd say right an assimilation for this you know whatever Dutch lad in it on a boat in 1840 versus the person who who you know came in on an H1B to do some tech job make some money and then send the money back to India or wherever else it'd be China, Korea. | ||
| And you say the same thing also for the people just wandering across the border from Central and South America, right? | ||
| It's not clear to me that actual assimilation in the digital era is even possible, right? | ||
| I think we'll see. | ||
| I would actually encourage people to study this. | ||
| Like, is assimilation even happening broadly? | ||
| Like last time I was in New York City, just based on my read of the situation, like I didn't see it happening, actually. | ||
| That's just my honest assessment. | ||
| Like these most people did not seem like Americans there. | ||
| And so, you know, I think we should support, you know, this is basically an extremely relevant question as we return to the as you know if if the digital if the digital space becomes a little bit more uh let's say ai slot focused and we're we're forced now into more in-person type interactions and this is the way that we sort of move forward it becomes it matters who your neighbors are and it matters that they speak the same language as you uh even you know as today you know maybe your neighbor doesn't even speak english Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, the fact that I even have strong opinions on which style of Latin American cuisine is the best is an indication that assimilation is completely broken down. | ||
| Because why should I even know that? | ||
| Which style is the best? | ||
| Which style is the best? | ||
| Dude, I gotta say, like I've been big on the Colombian recently. | ||
| I don't know what it is you know maybe it's because the world cup's coming up that gets you fired up are you pandering are you pandering to the to the columbians maybe i am maybe i am i don't know it could be it could be but um well i mean that's that's fascinating and that's going to send me down a rabbit hole this afternoon but um one more thing i wanted to ask you about You know, there'd previously been this discourse. | ||
| I put a tweet out about how the local, if you look in your local Facebook marketplace in your region, you will see that the used truck market, the value of those trucks has crashed. | ||
| And I suspect it's because the ICE raids have freed up the supply of used trucks. | ||
| What other benefits do you think mass deportations will have for Americans that are like tangible, little tangible stuff like that little treats? | ||
| So actually, you put me onto this. | ||
| So I was looking on Facebook Marketplace and it was true. | ||
| There were all of these sort of, let's say, decade old trucks selling for incredibly cheap prices. | ||
| So yeah, so there are a variety of different potential benefits. | ||
| I mean, one of the most obvious ones is just going to be housing. | ||
| Healthcare is probably the other one. | ||
| Emergency rooms, I'm really good friends with the doctor out here currently. | ||
| And, you know, if you talk with an ER doctor about what percent of patients who come in through the emergency room are basically illegal migrants who are using that as their primary mechanism of just getting health care. | ||
| So it might not actually be a true emergency. | ||
| A lot of times it's sort of like this middle ground where it's like they're ill, right? | ||
| And so, you know, you do want to care about people and we do want to care for them. | ||
| And I am glad that they're getting treatment. | ||
| But like this is not good for our, you know, if your, if your grandmother falls and you need her to get care in the emergency room right away, it's not good that there's a line of illegal immigrants there. | ||
| uh in the emergency room sort of clogging up what is supposed to be a like it's supposed to be an institution for americans uh in an emergency and somehow it's become an institution for illegals who are feeling a little ill so so so maybe maybe hospitals are one. | ||
| And then yes, as deportations accelerate, there should be regions of America, especially more urban regions that where housing becomes available. | ||
| and especially where it becomes more secure or safe to live. | ||
| So there are large sections of urban and suburban neighborhoods in America where a lot of families don't feel safe necessarily living there. | ||
| They won't always describe it that way. | ||
| They'll want to live somewhere a little bit nicer or whatever. | ||
| But a lot of that has to do with just migrant crime and things like that. | ||
| And once the migrants are gone, young families can move in, taken by the home and with the wife and kids and and uh i think that these are these are serious um these are serious benefits maybe maybe one last one that i'll mention is also on the education front um you know look up what some of the public schools and in major american cities are dealing with in terms of like the number of languages right it's like there are teachers who are trying to teach 150 different languages in the same school um it's just like not not achievable | ||
| then you go up to college right uh harvard university's 28 uh 28 non-citizen students right and i like to i would like to say like those are spots that should have gone to uh should have gone you know i hope that in the future those go to like our our kids and grandkids and things like that. | ||
| But that should have gone to more JD Vance type figures and not sort of foreigners. | ||
| And so there's a number of ways in which our institutions are basically being drifted upon by bad actors who kind of have one toe in the system. | ||
| And I think if we, by removing them, we actually unlock quite a lot for young people in America. | ||
| And it's going to be a hard thing to deport them. | ||
| But on the back end of it, I expect a golden age. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Well, sadly, we're out of time. | ||
| I think this requires like two, three hours to really delve because we just had to just hit 111. | ||
| There's so many different ways we could have gone, but dude, thank you for jo joining me. | ||
| Where can people find you to get some more? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Yeah, thanks for having me on Tate. | ||
| So I'm on Twitter, Nathan Halberstadt. | ||
| I'll spell my last name. | ||
| It's H-A-L-B-E-R-S-T-A-D-T. | ||
| And then I'm at New Founding. | ||
| So we're on Twitter. | ||
| Just go at New Founding. | ||
| We also have a website, newfounding.com. | ||
| Again, we're a venture firm focused on critical civilizational problems. | ||
| I'd say if you're a founder, feel free to reach out. | ||
| You can just DM me on Twitter or DM the New Founding handle. | ||
| And if you're interested in investing too, we run a venture rolling fund and always happy to sort of bring patriots on board, whether just to join our network or to become a founder that we back or if you want to put dollars behind the projects. | ||
| Excited to talk to those sorts of people as well. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Well, I love it. | ||
| Thanks for coming on, man. | ||
| We'll catch you next time. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Thanks, Dave. | ||
| See you. | ||
| All righty. | ||
| Well, that was the Nathan Hauberstad, the chartmaster, I would say. | ||
| That's a well-earned name. | ||
| High IQ Patriot, as I like to dub that sphere. | ||
| They're all great guys. | ||
| So yeah, that will wrap up our noon live show. |