The Culture War - Tim Pool - Assimilation Is No Longer POSSIBLE In Digital Age ft. Nathan Halberstadt

Aug. 19, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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Assimilation Is No Longer POSSIBLE In Digital Age ft. Nathan Halberstadt

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unidentified		You know, digital technology enables modern migrants to like they're basically hovering in an entirely parallel cultural and economic ecosystem, but it's online, right?
		So, if you think about an immigrant today in America, right, they can basically use their own set of banking apps, they're on WhatsApp, they're in their own sort of set of group chats.
		Yeah, they're watching foreign television.
		In many cases, they don't even learn the language for you know, for even it's sometimes like a shockingly long period of time.
		You can meet these people who are 30 years into being an American and they don't speak English, right?
		Um, you probably saw this doing the rounds yesterday.
		Um, there was this, I don't even know if we can um show the video, uh, but you've probably seen this.
		Yeah, so I'll pause right there.
		Uh, it's a really gruesome video.
		Um, is these uh these truckers who you know evidently entered the country illegally, um, they got a CDL in Gavin Newsom's California, and they were in Florida and they just do an illegal U-turn because in India you can do that.
		Um, can't do that in the United States, obviously, because it results in death.
		And um, yes, if you've been on roads recently, you have noticed the dip in driving quality from truckers.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I think everyone can resonate with this, including American truckers.
unidentified		Um, I've also put a tweet out the other day, and it's true, is I'm noticing an increase in billboards in Hindi for truck stops or advertising Indian food, so it's becoming a huge problem.
		Um, and Homeland Security is all over it.
		Three innocent people were killed in Florida because Gavin Newsom's California DMV issued an illegal alien a commercial driver's license.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The state of governance is asinine.
unidentified		Sorry about that.
		How many more innocent people have to die before Gavin Newsom stops playing games with the safety of the American people?
		We pray for the victims and their families.
		Secretary Noam and DHS are working around the clock to protect the public and get these criminal, illegal aliens out of America.
		So, yeah, everything is at least talk about immigration.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You see people on the left and they say, Well, I don't care how people come into the country.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Why should I care?
unidentified		I mean, you'll care when three people that you know and love, you know, or presumably that's how many, yeah, here it says right here, three Americans.
unidentified		You'll know when three people you know and love are killed because of the foolish behavior of these illegals here, and especially because they're being done at the hands of Democrats.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like, Florida's got their basis covered here, right?
unidentified		The Alligator Alcatraz, the Florida government is definitely endorsing ICE's operations.
unidentified		Um, it's these states like California pushing back, it's just leading to Americans dying for no reason, and just absurd, absurd.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Um, we don't have to live like this.
unidentified		Um, this was a this was an interesting study a few years ago from the annual review of political studies talking about diversity and social trust, about how immigration just across the board is leading to a decline in social trust.
		And I mean, you're seeing it right here with just basic institutions breaking down, and then obviously, you have the more broad theme of social trust breaking down, which everyone's aware of.
		And if you don't, if you don't accept that presupposition, then why do you have your doors locked?
		And that was not a ubiquitous thing in the United States not too long ago.
		Um, it's a fascinating study.
		Um, and the abstract here is uh, they have found a we find a statistically significant negative relationship between ethnic diversity and social trust across all studies, which obviously immigration just skyrockets and skyrockets, ethnic diversity, diversity of religion, diversity of thought, everything.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It just basically dilutes your country's culture, et cetera, et cetera.
unidentified		CIS, Center for Immigration Studies, backed this up.
		They broke down this study further.
		We're kind of running, we've got a little time crunch here, so I can't get into it too deep, but this is a fascinating read.
		And the social trust, I mean, we're seeing it all across every metric.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		This was the viral graph from Nathan, who we're going to be joined here by shortly.
unidentified		And it was everywhere.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The estimated percentage of 30-year-olds who are both married and homeowners was over 50% in 1960, and then just plummets, plummets to now where we're at like 8%.
unidentified		I mean, look, I'm not directly correlating this to immigration, but it's so obvious that social trust in the United States and quality of life, broadly speaking, has just created in this country.
		And immigration is a huge part of it.
		I mean, if you don't know who your neighbors are and where they come from and how they think, I mean, how are we supposed to, how are we supposed to mend this, mend this shattered fabric, social fabric?
		You know, Tucker Carlson and Aaron McIntyre had a great discussion yesterday discussing this about how we're going to have to define what an American is, because as the ICE operation ramps up further, that's going to be a very important question to ask.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So on things, on topics of social trust, immigration, everything broadly speaking, we're going to bring Nathan Halberstadt in here.
unidentified		We're getting it set up.
		Hello, Nathan.
		Can you hear me?
		Yeah, I can hear you.
		Dude, what's up?
		Thanks for coming on.
		Can you tell the viewers who you are, what you do?
		Yeah, my name is Nathan Halberstadt.
		I work at New Founding.
		We're a venture firm focused on critical civilizational problems.
		For the most part, we're looking at investing in founders who are sort of doge tier type individuals for young patriots who are trying to build important things for the future of America.
		And I'm super excited to be here.
		Everybody recently has been talking about Tate Cast.
		I was listening to the front half of the show, and you didn't just call yourself a patriot.
		I guess you called yourself a former Husky patriot.
		You don't have to lock that one away for the future.
		Yeah, it's true.
		I mean, look, God made me love some.
		God loved me so much.
		He made a little extra of me.
		That's what my grandmother told me as a child.
		That's right.
		That's right.
		I'm going to deploy that in the future, probably later today with a few people.
		Let's go out the soft launch.
		Yeah, soft launch.
		Well, I wanted to get into it.
		We were discussing the ICE situation and also the last few days we've been discussing the DC crackdown pretty extensively.
		I know you were in El Salvador recently and you had some thoughts on how El Salvador's approach to these sorts of social disorder themes has been.
		Can you maybe break that down now that you're back in the States?
		Yeah, so I just got back from the land of the philosopher king, King Bukele.
		And so I was in San Salvador, which is the capital of El Salvador.
		And, you know, this ace used to be the crime capital of the world.
		And in just a short, you know, short number of years, it's now incredibly safe.
		And I was looking at some of the data just before coming on this, coming on this, coming on the show on Tatecast.
		And, you know, it's actually quite shocking.
		And you feel it when you're out there.
		So I was walking around at night.
		About every other block does have an armed soldier on the corner.
		Now, that actually adds to a sense of sort of security in an interesting way, although it is sort of a sign of the former, the former difficulties of the country.
		But just comparing it to DC, if you're walking around DuPont Circle in DC or around the Hill or these areas, just the sense that there are just a large number of unsavory characters where literally anything could happen is always present.
		El Salvador, though, everybody was friendly.
		It was nice.
		Just walk around, you know, 10 p.m., midnight.
		And El Salvador went from the murder and murder and crime capital of the world to they have a homicide rate of around two per 100,000 people, whereas in Washington, D.C., we're at 27,000 people, right?
		So we have more than 10 times the rate of this place that is basically or was formerly dominated by cartels.
		And so to me, the interesting story here is that, I mean, I used to live in D.C., right?
		And crime was kind of a problem.
		It still is.
		I posted a photo on Twitter of one mile from the White House, $4 toothpaste is locked up.
		And people will try to tell you that crime is down, but it's obviously not in a place like DC.
		And most saliently, recently, our boy, a heroic patriot at Big Balls, he was attacked.
		And he's working with Doge.
		He's helping serve the country.
		And he was attacked brutally.
		There's a photo of him out in front of an ambulance, just sort of bleeding on the street.
		So it's really excellent to see Trump bringing the National Guard in.
		And I think really the lesson of El Salvador is that this stuff works.
		It can be criminals out the crime, right?
		It went from significantly higher to one tenth of our crime rate in just a couple of years.
		I saw a post also just recently from the DC Police Union.
		I think they posted this yesterday.
		It's like at DC Police Union.
		And it shows that in DC, just since the announcement of federal controls, just in the past seven days, robbery down 46%, carjacking is down 83%, violent crime down 22%, et cetera, et cetera.
	So it just shows if you just actually enforce the law, you can solve a lot of these, you can solve a lot of the problems.
	So I think being in El Salvador, El Salvador is still poor.
	It still has its issues.
	It's kind of this interesting mix of native people on the way up and sort of like international Bitcoiners and such.
	I minded them out there in San Salvador.
	But I'm pretty optimistic about we could learn a few things here in America.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		I mean, I think it's the shift that's happening.
		I mean, Bukele probably had a part to play in it as far as demonstrating to the sort of right-wing rising elite that you can wield power in effective ways.
		But it is refreshing to see that Trump is very aware of the mechanisms that he has at his disposal and doesn't seem to be afraid to deploy those mechanisms whenever he needs, as we're seeing in DC.
		But kind of the bigger issue, I mean, obviously cleaning up our cities is a priority, but you're not going to really solve the root of those issues without addressing the immigration, specifically the illegal immigration problem.
		And that's where he's really beefed up ICE.
		I mean, that was a priority of the Big Beautiful Bill was allocating billions and billions of dollars to ICE.
		But I was covering earlier that you probably saw it was the trucker in Florida who killed three Americans because he decided to do an India style U-turn in the middle of the highway.
		I mean, you're the chart master.
		That's what I dubbed you earlier.
		What sort of ways are you seeing immigration impacting social trust in a more sort of specific way?
		Yeah, that's the right question.
		I think we see in the data that over the past few decades, social trust has been declining.
		And to be really specific, what we mean by social trust is if there is a stranger next to you, let's say in your town or city, somebody who's just walking by, you can sort of survey somebody.
		I'm like, are you likely to trust them or not?
		So how reliable do you expect that person to be who's sort of around you in your location?
		And what we've seen over time is that people's response to that has been declining drastically.
		So where it used to be the case that somebody who you sort of going by on the street, you could sort of plausibly ask them for help with something or have some casual conversation in line or whatever else.
		Increasingly, people are shifting away from that.
		And there's a lot of theories in terms of what's actually driving this.
		I think technology is something that is definitely playing a role.
		The fact that people are just on their phones more.
		So we can't discount some of those explanations.
		But the role that migration has played, I think, is under discussed.
		So the fact of the matter is that when you're surrounded by people who don't share your values or your life ways, maybe don't even speak the same language as you, you can't really count on them because you might ask for something or ask them a question and it's really quite unpredictable how they'd respond because they could be from anywhere, sort of believe anything.
		Again, there's no guarantee they will even be able to understand you.
		And in certain major American cities, you get to a point where New York, Chicago, et cetera, Boston, 25 to 50% of the population is foreign-born.
		At those sorts of levels, it becomes just the case that you can't really trust anybody around you.
		No idea where they're from.
		You don't really know what their agenda is.
		And to come back to this trucker incident, right?
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		So this was a trucker who came into America, did not have papers, somehow got a commercial driver's license.
unidentified		And I think that that's something that has to be looked at more closely.
		I saw at least some sort of a note that the truck administration is looking at doing paper checks basically at truck weighing stations.
		I absolutely support that.
		But you can sort of imagine a situation where somebody came in from, let's say, India, they came to America and they learned to drive elsewhere.
		And all of a sudden, they're driving this massive piece of metal at 80 miles per hour.
		And there's just like no telling what they're going to do.
		You might have a daughter or a niece or something who's driving, obeying the laws.
		And it's similar to, you can think about like foreign, you know, like foreign doctors and nurses and things like that.
		You know, if they're coming to America, we want to do a whole series of sort of vetting, checking, sort of re-licensing them.
		You don't want to take a certain, you don't really want to accept a surgery from somebody from some other part of the world.
		And you don't really know what their experience level is.
		You don't really know where they learned, et cetera, et cetera.
		It would be good in America if we sort of made sure that the people who are on the roads are, let's say, trained and should actually be on our roads.
		And that means removing illegal immigrants from our roads for the most part.
		And that's just one piece of this sort of whole social trust thing, right?
		It's like, you know, you can't rely on the person next to you on the road now.
		Right.
		And that's sort of a scary part about where all of this is going.
		Yeah.
		I mean, there's already enough female drivers.
		Do we really need these elite?
		I mean, geez, right?
		No, I'm just kidding.
		We love females, especially female drivers.
		But yeah, I mean, that's the thing is I'm sitting there thinking, I'm like, do we really have a shortage of truckers in this country?
		I mean, I don't recall seeing any headlines or articles.
		To me, this just seems like an underhanded attempt from these logistics companies to undercut Americans.
		And we're seeing this all across the board.
		The H-1B situation obviously is in desperate need of addressing.
		I mean, I know you've hit on the H-1B visa situation really hard.
		You're obviously in tech adjacent tech industry.
		What are you seeing on the H-1B front?
		I mean, are we moving in a good direction on this or what?
		Yeah, I mean, Tate, you raised a really, really excellent point here, which is, you know, isn't, I mean, we have, let's say in the trucker industry, right?
		You know, AI is coming right around the bend here.
		And so I think it's a national priority to make sure that our existing American truck drivers continue to thrive, right?
		And whatever that looks like, there's probably some level of protectionism.
		There's probably some, there's a variety of things we can get into here, but basically autonomous driving is going to seriously cut down the number of, or has the potential to seriously cut down the number of available trucking jobs.
		If at the same time, we're just giving away the remaining truck jobs to whatever they are, whether it's H-1Bs or just any sort of foreign labor.
		That's adding pressure to an already quite difficult situation.
		So if we think about the H-1B situation more broadly, there was a report in Fortune Mag that, and this was about two weeks ago, that 60% of new college grads from the class of 2025, so these are the guys that you and I know who are just graduating right now, guys and girls who are wrapping up their college education, 60% of them are unemployed or underemployed.
		Wow.
		And they just graduated in May.
		It's now mid-August.
		And so when you hear these stories about young people who are unhappy with sort of the set of available opportunities, you have to understand that this is like, there is a burning platform here.
		There's a serious problem.
		Now, it's not all about the H-1Bs.
		It's probably two things.
		Again, it's AI.
		Increasingly, ChatGPT and other AI tools can do entry-level, let's say, analysts and associate-level work, an associate at a law firm.
		They used to do all the reading through things and now ChatGPT can do it.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		Analysts used to make slide decks and make graphs, et cetera, et cetera.
unidentified		You can kind of just, a more senior person can just prompt that.
		So there's a little bit of a situation where the ladder is coming up naturally.
		But I think then that makes people much more sensitive to the fact that when they see the ladder coming up, but the people who are grabbing the ladder are H-1Bs.
		They're not even Americans.
		That's something that I think is extremely politically sensitive and it should be.
		Those opportunities should be going to Americans.
		And the economy is shifting in a whole bunch of different ways.
		And we need to make sure basically that there are opportunities for young people.
		It's not just about handing out jobs left and right that are meaningless.
		It's like helping them to find things that are meaningful, that they can build a life with.
		And whether it's encouraging them to become founders and companies or just joining ICE and helping save the homeland or whatever it is, we need to step in and make sure that there are serious job opportunities where they can get married, have kids, buy a home.
		And if we're failing on that, then we're failing on everything.
		Yeah, I mean, you just see all these metrics like you're bringing up.
		You're seeing these headlines coming out of how radical Zoomers and now we're starting to see Gen Alpha's politics are, how distrustful they are of institutions, how distrustful they are of, let's just say the establishment, broadly speaking.
		It's tough to see a situation in which you don't get a violent, maybe not violent, but a visceral reaction from the younger generations.
		I mean, I would assume that getting out of this and giving Zoomers opportunity is just a matter of national security at this point.
		I mean, if you consider the palpable anger that you're seeing from that generation, or this generation, our generation, I mean, it just feels like a ticking time bomb, really.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know if you're seeing this on your end.
unidentified		Yeah, and I think there's just enough specific examples floating around that Gen Alpha and Gen Z have access to.
		You know, there was an example about a month back and there was this gentleman.
		His name was Sohem Parek.
		And he was, you know, he's from India.
		He essentially was in some sort of a debt situation.
		He said that he was in some sort of a Sort of a bind basically.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		And he came to America and he got, he was rotating up to six jobs at a time, sort of engineered jobs at Y Combinator tier startups.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		So these are excellent.
unidentified		Think about like an Uber in its earlier stages or something like this, right?
		So he was rotating through around six of them at a time, getting fired though.
		And then when as soon as he got fired, you just get another one because he wasn't doing a good job.
		It's quite difficult to do a good job across those.
		But basically, he was harvesting six, probably what, 200K a year salaries at a time.
		So he was clearing over a million a year, but not delivering any value and taking jobs from young Americans.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		Like my friends were actually applying for those jobs.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		They were trying to get engineer jobs in those Y Commercial companies.
unidentified		And actually, a lot of them didn't get those jobs.
		Right.
		And so that's where this gets a little bit more interesting.
		Right.
		And so he was invited on TVPN to do an interview.
		And then during that interview, again, he said, I did this because of some debt or duress.
		But then he sort of rapidly pivots and says, but I don't care about the money.
		I just want to build.
		And that's such an obvious lie.
		Like any Gen Z or Gen Office person just looks at that and goes like, okay, here's a foreign grifter who's abusing our labor market.
		And notably, he's in the visa process to come here to the United States permanently.
		I think I'm a pretty, I'm a moderate guy.
		I'm an American.
		I want there to be jobs and opportunities and things for my siblings and my friends and my kids and grandkids.
		And we can't have that and also have hundreds of thousands of Sohem PARACs sort of swimming around doing this sort of stuff.
		And those stories are just so available to us now, right?
		They were probably not as available.
		Was CNN covering this sort of stuff?
		Would it have even gotten coverage pre-social media?
		Probably not.
		So again, I'm personally against him.
		Somebody like this when he's grifting off our labor market, it'd be an interesting question.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		That was about a month back.
unidentified		Is he still in the visa process?
		Is he in America right now?
		Should he be in America right now?
		Those are, I think, very, very, you know, rational questions to ask.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		And I think if you care at all about the next generation of Americans, you need to hold a harder line on these issues, especially given what we're going to be going through with AI.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, it really just begs the question of like, if I'm an American citizen, what is the point of being an American citizen if I'm having to compete with the entire world for domestic, you know, domestic resources, like housing and jobs and whatnot?
		I mean, you're seeing in the UK this problem on steroids where there's article after article there where they're like, we have to build 4 million houses or we're going to have like a homelessness crisis.
		And then they're also simultaneously allowing millions of migrants in a year who the vast, vast majority of them are not providing an upgrade in any department.
		And oftentimes they end up on social housing.
		Obviously, the situation is a bit different in America because we don't have super extensive social programs here, but we do, the ones that we do have, we are starting to see, maybe not starting, we've been seeing migrants coming in and just immediately utilizing these resources.
		I mean, Minnesota is a great example.
		That's a rabbit hole that I would encourage Tim Cast viewers to go down, specifically relating to their elected officials.
		I mean, without mass deportations, I mean, where are we going to be?
		Is the UK really our future?
		Well, hopefully not.
		Hopefully not.
		I mean, at least in London and some of these other cities, it's getting quite ugly.
		You know, the United Kingdom, one of the problems that they face is basically that the right in the United Kingdom is less serious.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the Tories are fundamentally unserious, I would say.
unidentified		And beyond that as well, any sort of opposition to mass migration is crushed.
		They don't have the same level of free speech.
		So those are two things that really, I think, hold them back.
		So I think we should be very thankful here in America that we have free speech.
		And I would say MAGA is a serious right-wing party.
		I'm sure there are ways that it could always be improved.
		But I think there's a lot to be grateful for here.
		And I think we're making forward progress.
		In terms of just more broadly, where does all of this go for Americans?
		And how should average, let's say, investors, business owners, even young people be thinking about the political, cultural sort of macro situation?
		This guides a lot of our investing, I would say, in startups.
		I think that the sort of challenges that Gen Z and Gen Alpha are facing in combination with everything else going on in the world lead us to think that this will be an era of greater instability, sort of greater political radicalism, of course, right?
		Deglobalization is another theme that we think a lot about, right?
		So in a world where people are more conscious of people like Sorin Parekh, who we just talked about, and more opposed to it, expecting more tariffs to go up, expecting more focus on sort of domestic labor.
		And really what a lot of that should hopefully do is actually begin to solve the social trust problem.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		And like a society cannot survive if the social trust gets low enough.
unidentified		If you can't count on anybody, then you're not a society anymore.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		You're just a bunch of individual people, maybe families, maybe groups of friends.
unidentified		And so we think a lot about sort of repositioning for that sort of new economic and social paradigm.
		And so I think for business owners and such, it's thinking about how you actually get ahead of this, right?
		There are probably interesting regulations and policy shifts, just like the tariffs going in place, but beyond the tariffs, it's not just going to be that.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		There's more coming.
unidentified		And then the other thing that I would mention just for people in general is, as you think about AI slop on the internet and just the effects of AI across the board, AI is going to replace a lot of, it's very likely to replace a lot of types of work that in some ways we rely on either like foreign labor for.
		And it should transfer a lot of value to very capable young Americans if they are high agency enough and they leverage AI effectively.
		But AI slop on the internet, I anticipate continuing to be a problem.
		You can imagine a world where we're messaging back and forth about coming on the show today and I message you and you have some AI agent that actually just replies to me and we sort of get booked to go on the show together.
		But maybe neither of us even saw the message.
		It was just our AI agents sort of replying to each other.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, there are sort of solutions to this and such, but then you open your Twitter feed and it's like the people liking my posts aren't real.
nathan halberstadt ▲ ● ▼		The people the posts are generated, et cetera, et cetera.
unidentified		So what does that world look like in my view?
		In my view, that forces a lot of people back to the in-person and real and physical world.
		And that's where in-person networks, the firm handshake, the people at your church, the people who live right next to you begins to matter matter a lot more because the digital ecosystem becomes less reliable.
		It's like, think about how your inbox is just like so flooded with spam.
		It's like, I imagine a world where that's just like, that's just like everything on the internet.
		It's just, it's just increasingly, increasingly sort of a proliferation of AI slop across everything on your phone.
		It'll be an arms race between that and the filters, of course.
		But that's sort of some of the way that I think about like what's coming for Americans in the years ahead.
		Yeah, I mean, we had Nate Fisher on and he had an interesting idea that it makes a lot of sense and it seems to be borne out so far is that increased utilization of AI in the labor force could actually free up or eliminate a lot of these laptop jobs or a lot of these fake jobs.
		And it could actually sort of force Americans to return to a more classically American way of living and structuring their families and these sorts of things.
		As in, it could free up resources for these companies where they can allocate more to wages.
		And we could potentially return to people being able to support a family on a single income, which is really exciting stuff.
		But this obviously also requires restriction on immigration because if you don't have that, then you're just going to have a much larger labor market.
		And then it'll just be a disaster.
		Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of reasons.
		Yeah, there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic.
		I share Nate Fisher's perspective on this.
		And I think you're right to add the layer that deportations and this is critical to this, actually, this shift sort of going well for us as Americans.
		And I've written about something that I call digital enclaves.
		And the idea, just to sort of describe it briefly, is that digital technology enables modern migrants to, they're basically hovering in an entirely parallel cultural and economic ecosystem, but it's online, right?
		So if you think about an immigrant today in America, right?
		They can basically use their own set of banking apps.
		They're on WhatsApp.
		They're in their own sort of set of group chats.
		They're watching foreign television.
		In many cases, they don't even learn the language for, you know, for even sometimes a shockingly long period of time.
		You can meet these people who are 30 years into being in America and they don't speak English.
		Right.
		And that's interesting to me, right?
		It's, there's, there's, from a theory perspective, right, there's been a notable shift where, you know, if you left like Stockholm in 1800 or 1850 and came to America, like it was, everything was severed, right?
		You came to America, you were an American now.
		You assimilated, you learned, you learned English quickly.
		And you were a part of this project fully in every sense.
		You know, the number of these more recent migrants who are like one toe in, right? Is shocking.
		And I'm not actually convinced that assimilation in the same sense is even possible.
		So I'd say, assimilation for this sort of, you know, whatever Dutch lad on a boat in 1840 versus the person who came in on an H-1B to do some tech job, make some money and then send the money back to India or wherever else, it'd be China, Korea.
		And you say the same thing also for the people just wandering across the border from Central and South America, right?
		It's not clear to me that actual assimilation in the digital era is even possible, right?
		I think we'll see.
		I would actually encourage people to study this.
		Is assimilation even happening broadly?
		Like last time I was in New York City, just based on my read of the situation, I didn't see it happening, actually.
		That's just my honest assessment.
		Like these most people did not seem like Americans there.
		And so, you know, I think we should support, you know, this is basically an extremely relevant question as we return to the, if the digital, if the digital space becomes a little bit more uh, let's say, Ai slop focused and we're we're forced now into more in-person type interactions, and this is the way that we sort of move forward it, because it matters who your neighbors are and it matters that they speak the same language as you.
		Uh, even you know, as today, you know, maybe your neighbor doesn't even speak English.
		Yeah, absolutely.
		I mean, the fact that I even have strong opinions on which style of Latin American cuisine is the best is an indication that assimilation is completely broken down.
		Because why should I even know that?
		Which style, which style is the best?
		Which which style is dude.
		I gotta say, like i've been, i've been big on the Colombian recently.
		I don't know what it is, you know, maybe it's because the World Cup's coming up.
		That gets you fired up.
		Are you pandering?
		Are you pandering to the, to the Columbians?
		Maybe I am, maybe I am, I don't know, it could be, but um well, I mean that's, that's fascinating and that's going to send me down a rabbit hole this afternoon.
		But um, one more thing I wanted to ask you about, um.
		You know there had previously been this discourse.
		I put a tweet out about how the local if you look in your local facebook marketplace in your region, you will see that the used truck market the value of those trucks has crashed um, and I suspect it's because the ice raids have freed up the supply of used trucks.
		What other benefits do you think mass deportations will have for Americans that are like tangible, tangible stuff, like that little treat so so actually you, you put me onto this.
		So I was looking on facebook marketplace and and it was, it was true like there were all of these sort of uh, you'll say, decade-old trucks uh, selling for incredibly cheap prices um so so yeah, so there are a variety of different potential benefits.
		I mean, one of the most obvious ones is just going to be housing.
		Um, healthcare is probably the other one.
	You know, emergency rooms.
	I'm really good, i'm good friends with a, with a doctor out here currently, and and um, and you know, if you talk with an er doctor about what percent of patients who come in through the emergency room are are basically illegal migrants who are using that as their primary mechanism of just getting health care, so it might not actually be a true emergency.
	A lot of times it's sort of like this middle ground where it's like they're ill right, and so you know, you do want to care, I care about people and we do want to care for them and I am glad that they're getting treatment yeah, but like, this is not good for our.
	You know, if your, if your grandmother uh falls, uh and you need her to get care in the emergency room right away, it's not good that there's a line of illegal immigrants there uh, in the emergency room, sort of clogging up what is supposed to be a, like it's supposed to be an institution for Americans uh, in an emergency, and somehow it's become an institution for illegals who are feeling a little ill.
	So so maybe, maybe hospitals are one and then yes, as we, you know, as deportations accelerate um, there should be, you know, regions of America, especially more urban regions, that where housing becomes available and especially where uh, it becomes more secure to or safe to live.
	So, you know, there are large there are large sections of sort of urban and suburban neighborhoods in America where a lot of people, a lot of families don't feel safe necessarily living there.
	They wouldn't always describe it that way.
	Like they'll want to live somewhere a little bit nicer or whatever.
	But, you know, a lot of that has to do with just, you know, migrant crime and things like that.
	And once the migrants are gone, you know, young families can move in, taken by the home with the wife and kids.
	And and I think that these are these are serious.
	These are serious benefits.
	maybe.
	Maybe one last one that i'll mention is also on the education front.
	Um, you know, look up what some of the public schools in in major American cities are dealing with in terms of like, the number of languages.
	Right, it's like there are teachers who are trying to teach 150 different languages in the same school.
	Um, it's just like not, not achievable.
	Then you go up to college right uh, Harvard University's 28 uh, 28 non non-citizen students right, and I like to, I would like to say like those are spots that should have gone to uh, should have gone.
	You know we, I hope that in the future those go to, like our, our kids and grandkids and things like that.
	But you know, that should have gone to more Jdvanced type figures and not, and not sort of foreigners.
	And so there's a number of ways in which our institutions are basically being grifted upon by by bad actors who kind of have one toe in the system and um, you know, I think if we, by removing them, we actually unlock uh, quite a lot for young people in America and uh, it's a, it's a.
	You know, it's going to be a hard thing to deport them, but uh, on the back end of it I, I expect a golden age.
	I love it.
	Well sadly, we're out of time.
	I think this requires like two, three hours to really delve, because we just had to just hit 111.
	There's so many different ways we could have gone.
	But dude, thank you for joining me.
	Uh, where can people find you to get some more?
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, thanks for having me on TATE.
	So i'm on twitter, Nathan Halberstadt.
	Um, i'll spell my last name.
	It's H-a-l-b-e-r-s-t-a-d-t.
	And then uh, i'm at NEW Founding.
	So we're on twitter.
	Uh, just go at NEW Founding.
	Uh, we're.
	Also, we have a website, Newfounding.com.
	Again, we're.
	We're a venture firm focused on critical civilizational problems.
	I'd say, if you're a founder uh, feel free to reach out.
	You can just dm me on twitter or dm the new founding uh, handle uh.
	And if you're interested in investing too, we run a, a venture rolling fund um, and always happy to sort of bring patriots on board, whether uh, whether just to join our network or to become a founder that we back uh, or if you want to put dollars behind the projects uh, excited to talk to those sorts of people as well, dude.
	Well, I love it.
	Thanks for coming on man, we'll catch you next time, of course.
	Thanks Tate, all righty.
	Well, that was the Nathan Halberstad, the chart master.
	I would say that's a well-earned name um, high iq, IQ Patriot, as I like to dub that sphere.
	They're all great guys.
	So, yeah, that will wrap up our noon live show.
	We will be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.
	Hopefully, Tim, Tim was saying he should be back for it.
	So, hopefully, he'll be back.
	We got Kevin Sorbo and Gavin McInnes, I believe, as the guests.
	So, this is going to be a monster show.
	Yeah, thanks for tuning in.
	You can find me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
	Like I said, we'll be back tonight and we will see you there.
	Have a good rest of your day.

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