Violent Mob BEATS DOWN Innocent Civilians, Social Fabric Of America Is TORN APART ft. Wade Stotts
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There's a reason that people kind of might get annoyed and say, oh, these Trump people are or the right wing right now is really focused on immigration and think that it's some kind of monomania.
But yeah, a lot of these downstream consequences are things that people just take for granted as, okay, well, I guess things have to get worse in this way.
It is amazing actually how many different things taking care of our immigration problem would solve.
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I don't know if you guys saw this story.
Cincinnati, there's this guy running around.
I was like a GTA server.
He was just like decking random people.
It was unbelievable stuff.
Elon's on it.
Zero stories.
It's true.
There's nothing out there.
Except for the post-millennial.
They had a great story.
Brutal mob attack in Cincinnati.
So I wanted to bring in Wade to talk about this.
You guys have probably seen the story so I can set it up real quick.
They're investigating a violent assault in the city's downtown area early Saturday morning where a man and a woman were attacked by a group, leaving the woman unconscious.
The incident captured in disturbing video.
It's gone viral.
I'll just show you a quick vid.
So they're just going around just wailing on people for no reason.
This is happening over and over and over again.
And Americans are really starting to get a little fed up with this because it's like nothing ever really happens.
There's no reaction.
So yeah, I want to bring in Wade.
He's probably got some, he's probably got the correct take.
Yeah, anytime you see these videos, you try to, my news brain tries to immediately try to figure out the context, right?
So we've seen, as a guy who's followed the news for years, we have seen violent altercations, we've seen arguments at sports games and tried to figure out, okay, what could have happened before this that would have made this make some sense or more sense?
And the reason that this one has held on as hard as it has, yes, because of the lack of coverage, but also because it's really hard to imagine anything that obviously nothing can make it make sense in a, you know, it's not a, it's not a good thing.
Nothing could ever make this turn out to be good.
But even to justify this kind of behavior or this kind of attack on these people, I think that one of the things that is so striking about this is that it's not just that people are watching this going, what happened in this particular scenario?
What they're wondering is they're watching this going, trying to make a calculation, trying to think, okay, so if I go to the Cincinnati Jazz Festival and let's say what happened was it sounded like there was some loud music playing and let's say somebody said, hey, turn down that music.
We're at a music festival.
I'm trying to hear and hear.
If that kind of altercate, you say the wrong thing, something gets off on the wrong foot, people are trying to make the calculation.
That's why they want to know, okay, am I going to get beaten or am I going to get filmed while beaten?
It makes sense that people are going to wonder those things, especially because, again, it was treated in such a way that like everybody standing around just thought it was some kind of show that they were there to watch.
And so it's not just people want to know the details or people want to figure out, it's not just a voyeuristic, I want to know what happened, but it's also people wanting to know, what can I do?
How can I treat my family well?
If I want to take my wife to a jazz festival, is that going to be a bridge too far?
Even if I say the wrong thing or if I drink too much and there's an altercation like that, is it going to maybe end my life in that sort of scenario?
As you were talking in the opening, there's enough of a social trust problem in America without dumping all these illegal immigrants going on and immigrants generally coming in.
But the social trust thing is a real deal.
And what people are trying to, again, calculate is how much can I count on norm, like, okay, so this stuff can happen at the margins, right?
So somebody can fly off the handle, knock somebody out, punch somebody.
As long as there's a relatively healthy culture around that ugliness, then people will jump in to help.
People will jump in to stop it, slow it down.
But if there's no, if you can't count on that, if you can't count on bystanders thinking, hey, this is now my responsibility to jump in, then yeah, it's an ugly thing.
So I think that's why people are focused so much on this and why people are, again, trying to find the logic.
Or if not find the logic, then find, what are my responsibilities after seeing this?
It kind of encapsulates this feeling that a lot of Americans have, which is the streets are completely populated with a lot of people that have nothing to lose.
And that's a very, very scary thing.
And like you were hitting on, the social trust is, it's in the basement right now.
It's a total disaster.
And there's also, it's unfortunate this is the case, but there is this racial element to it as well, where it's a group of black people assaulting white couples and families.
That's always going to obviously animate the issue as well.
What is the, I mean, I was covering earlier in the story, we have the immigration is totally out of control.
Trump's finally, you know, stifling it.
Stephen Miller, a patriot.
He's stifling the flow.
And then you have this trade deal that Trump's trying to reel in.
He's trying to, you know, people have been cooking the books for a long time.
So Trump's actually addressing these issues on trade.
But we're making progress.
But stuff like this, I don't really know how you fix at a federal level.
It's a social trust issue, Like you said, I mean, what have you identified?
Is there a way out of this, or are we just going to descend into Brazil or South Africa?
Well, the good thing is that the local police have at least commented on this and said that it's a bad thing that it happened.
There's nobody in the administration or like local administration or anything like that, or even the statewide people have, none of them have said, actually, this was a brave thing that happened or a good thing.
Everybody seems to be taking the right side, at least on the official capacity.
So that's good.
And I think that that means that there's, I don't know, it would be really bad if we were in a situation where everybody just automatically took the side of who they thought was, you know, like racially the problem or whatever, especially in the government capacity.
So yeah, I don't know if there is a political solution on this stuff.
Again, it's a social trust thing.
And there's, I mean, Russell Kirk said that men, like Rome descended as Romans descended.
So like there's there's this personal capacity to all of this is the social trust that drives the political direction and drives a lot of the, you know, whether something can hold together as a people.
And you can't ignore the racial element.
I think that would be, you know, I think that part of it is also that you have to wonder, okay, so again, I'm making a calculation.
Can I go to this festival?
All right, am I going to encounter people there who think it's okay to beat me for some for a reason that doesn't have to do with a so let's say I have an altercation and somebody thinks it's okay to go above and beyond just like, okay, let's say I deserve to get my lights knocked out, right?
I've done, I've done a terrible thing.
Somebody punches me and I deserved it.
If somebody goes above and beyond what I deserve, then yeah, again, I have to think, okay, what's going on in their head?
Why do they think that's okay?
Like I said, I don't want to do anything.
I don't want to say anything that necessarily would preclude me from serving on a jury, especially when this kind of thing just blows up and shows up in my face.
But again, it's hard not to see all these angles and try to, again, get to the bottom of it so that I can adjust my own behavior.
It was the deputy mayor came out and they were like, oh, it was an altercation between two adults.
That was the official line.
And you're sitting there like, I'm watching, like I said earlier, it's literally a GTA server come to life where some guy's just going around probably as, I don't even know if he had a five-star warning or wanted level.
I think he was just going at it.
I don't even know.
Maybe a cheats enabled because I didn't see any police.
Grim, grim stuff.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, it is true that the police are addressing it, this sort of thing, but I don't want to live in a country where there has to be police everywhere at all times for me to like safely navigate downtown Cincinnati.
I mean, it's Cincinnati.
We're not talking about Baltimore or something.
So that's kind of the thing.
And if you're a young person, you're seeing this.
You're seeing your downtowns off limits.
And then I was hitting on it earlier.
I wonder if you had any thoughts on this as the social trust, the immigration, especially the illegal immigration is just dumping gasoline on the fire.
I was talking earlier about the housing market crunch, and we're thinking if we can deport however many illegal immigrants that are here, the estimate's like 14 million.
It's probably higher.
If we can free up that housing stock, I mean, do you think that people need to maybe feel a bit more like they have more skin in the game?
Do you think that would maybe improve things from a social trust perspective?
I mean, there's a reason that people might get annoyed and say, oh, these Trump people or the right wing right now is really focused on immigration and think that it's some kind of monomania.
But yeah, a lot of these downstream consequences are things that people just take for granted as, okay, well, I guess things have to get worse in this way.
It is amazing actually how many different things taking care of our immigration problem would solve.
So yes, I think like social trust would go a long way there.
And also like slowing down immigration, slowing down legal immigration, taking care of the illegals, I think that there's a certain level of, I don't know who my neighbor is.
I don't know what is going on in their heads.
I don't know how to calculate whether, again, if I get in a bad situation, whether somebody's going to help me out or if they're going to pile on.
I mean, I glanced past this earlier, but again, if you watch this guy filming this altercation between two adults, the guy who's filming is yelling, oh, oh, oh.
And he does that for like three minutes straight.
And only at one point, I think to maybe make sure that his audience doesn't see him as a bad person, he says, help her up.
But it's after this woman's laying on the ground unconscious.
It's a horrible thing.
And so I go, okay, well, every like I've, we watch the movie Nightcrawler, right?
And so we watch Nightcrawler and we get disgusted at this kind of sleazy guy who tries to sell his clips to the news.
But if that's everybody, or if that's at least like a large percentage of people who are going to be like treating their phones as their personal nightcrawler machine and putting their, putting stuff on their, on their, like hoping they blow up because they get to witness somebody being beaten half to death, then yeah, again, that's, that's something that I, I, like, that's not a housing problem.
And I think that that, you know, so there are elements of this social trust that can be repaired by federal actions.
But yeah, there's a really ugly, again, but that's, that's just jumping in on top of a really ugly social trust problem that already exists.
So I don't, again, I don't think that that's necessarily a political thing or a political solution.
I mean, that's, that's kind of the thing we're seeing with the world starification of fight documentation where it's just like they're trying to develop a personal brand around someone, you know, getting beaten half to death.
Yeah.
It's a horrible thing.
And it's sad.
That was the saddest part of the video was that no one seemed to want to intervene.
I don't know if it was fear or if it was just a lack of empathy.
It's a social trust thing.
I used to live in Queens, Queens, New York.
It's like half foreign born, and this is praised routinely by all the civic leaders.
They're like, this is this wonderful thing.
You can have an arepa and then have like Chinese food on the same day.
they only talk about the food, really, when it comes to diversity, they don't really talk about the downstream effects because the downstream effect is like you hit on if you don't know your neighbor.
Not only do you not know your neighbor, you don't know like how they evaluate the world.
What I mean, you don't know much about their culture.
And the city, the borough, at least, is filled to the brim.
And it's like, it's created this situation where no one speaks to each other because this reputation of New Yorkers are really rude.
I actually find that native New Yorkers are quite pleasant, but there is this general feeling of just disdain for strangers because you just don't know anything about them.
You don't know if they're going to stab you or what.
And you don't know if anybody's going to intervene.
And I suspect, I think, a large reason is because you don't even know if the person speaks English, let alone if they're on the same page, you know, ethically.
So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of the thing for me is like, like you said, it's like, why is the GOP hammering so hard on immigration?
And I'm like, because these cities, you saw Los Angeles, I mean, the deportations haven't really even gotten to these insane numbers that we're expecting.
And people are already coming and glued there and rioting and flying foreign flags.
And I don't see how we're going to get out of that.
I mean, Trump just has to keep the foot on the gas.
Well, and I think part of the tragedy of it is that we had it and we lost it.
So any place where there has been social trust that's eroded, then we're mourning it all the more.
So we only notice it because we had it before.
I mean, the whole sort of what's the sort of boxes where people will like set out their fruit or set out whatever potatoes that they're growing.
Honesty boxes.
So like the fact that honesty boxes have existed and have had to be taken down and some people are still like are trying to put some up to try to again test out, hey, if this works out, then we can make more money and I don't have to hire somebody who just runs this stand all the time.
Then everybody can kind of function in a better way.
The fact that that can still exist in part of our country is really great.
But the fact that broadly that stuff starts to go away, that's the tragedy that Americans are seeing.
There are some people who wouldn't notice it because they've never lived in a place that was like that, that had any kind of social trust.
And again, like New Yorkers, I think, probably have a few more barriers than sort of me growing up in Northeast Arkansas.
But I think that's, again, there are definite gradations of that.
I mean, Carl Benjamin talked about when he visited from the UK and visited West Virginia.
And he realized as he was talking to people, as he was interacting, that he had way more of a guard up than he should have and was actually being rude to people.
He found himself accidentally being rude.
And he said, I'm a good English boy.
You know, I grew up with manners.
I know what I'm supposed to do.
But he realizes that as social trust has eroded around him within his lifetime, that he was treating people in a way that he would never treat them normally.
And he felt bad about that.
And he wished that he could go back and be more open.
He sees himself as an open guy who has slowly had to kind of put walls up around himself as social trust has eroded around him.
I think that that's a sad thing to see.
And I think that Carl sees that.
But also, we don't want that here.
Again, he visited rural West Virginia.
That's a different sort of place.
But I'd like to be able to preserve that for people to not have to have their guard up.
Again, going to a jazz festival, just going downtown, taking their wife out for a dinner.
It's something that I think we can, you know, again, as people are committing crimes, we can punish crime.
And I think that if there's an attitude like that at the top, again, fixing things federally, that was the question you asked.
If there's an attitude like that at the top, I think it gives permission for local officials to act in that same way and know that they're not going to get a mob after them.
Yeah, you are seeing like Orange County, California, like they are able to start cracking down on shoplifting more.
I think, yeah, like the primary reason for that is because they feel like the boots off their neck from the federal, from the federal government.
So that's going to pay dividends because, yeah, you go to these cities and you go to like Walgreens and you get to like get on your knees and beg for a stick of deodorant because they have it like locked down.
Like it's, I mean, it's the most ridiculous thing ever.
And then the people will come up, these shoplifters, they come with their garbage bag and they ring the bell and the guy will come unlock and give them the deodorant and then they just walk out with it.
So it's like it's only punishing people that are actually just trying to shop the shop.
And then the craziest thing is the shoplifters still stink.
So it's like they're not even using the deodorant.
Yeah, I think another big piece of this before I talk about the changes going forward is the fact that two years at least of a lot of people's lives got taken away.
And so the closer to the formation of your personality that 2020 and 2021 and 2022 was, that has a huge impact on you.
So if you were planning, if your graduation, let's say your like high school graduation got shut down because of this and all of your scholarship opportunities got ruined because of disease, that automatically puts a huge lack of social trust in you and goes, okay, well, everything I prepared for.
Everything that somebody told me was going to be my ticket out of here is not going to be there.
And not that Zoomers needed any help with that, because again, I think that broadly millennials trusted the promises of the boomers, that the boomers thought that they were like, okay, now we have attained, like, this is the end of history.
This is the way the world is going to work forever.
Millennials kind of believe those promises and Gen Z hasn't believed those promises at the same level.
But starting out from cynicism, yeah, it's a really ugly thing.
And I don't see, yeah, I think that there will be studies 100 years from now on the COVID kids and all the people who, and that's, you know, Gen Z onto Gen Alpha and where people were when that broke up their ability to speak or be able to see somebody, see somebody's mouth move when they're speaking, when people's faces are covered constantly.
Social interaction, again.
But there was a broad culture growing up as a millennial.
There's a broad culture of going out, seeing people, doing things.
And like concert venues have been shutting down.
Like Ticketmaster, again, people talk about Ticketmaster prices going up.
Also, there's a huge piece of that that is that nobody really wants to go to concerts anymore except for the uber wealthy or the people who can afford like paying these exorbitant prices.
There's a really strange and like, okay, well, if my dopamine hits are from a crowd, I at least know what it feels like to go and be a part of a crowd and have a good time, be at a 4th of July parade and let it go.
And somebody doesn't know that that's its own kind of rush and its own kind of excitement, then introducing that is saying you have to get past a lot of discomfort to be able to do something that, again, Americans have seen as normal for a long time.
So I don't think, I think that part of that is going to be people just taking responsibility for their own self.
But broadly, as far as a pattern goes, I don't see that going really anywhere great.
It's going to be really ugly when people are having to have relationships with people when their first relationship or their second relationship was with an AI or if they've had some kind of back and forth discussions with AI.
And again, there are people who are trying to do it right, but they're fighting a huge uphill battle.
And I feel for that.
But I think, you know, again, we both think that Trump is going to do good things that will have a positive impact on that.
But it can't, it's the kind of thing that can't just be from the top to make it a comfortable environment for that to happen.
Taking responsibility and going, hey, again, this sounds like a bootstrap sort of thing, but going like, hey, I also have to meet the standard now.
So it's not like, you know, nobody's going to have to, nobody's going to come chase me.
Like Trump isn't going to walk over and hand me the deed to a house.
There's something that I've got to do as well.
So I'm all for everything that can be done at a federal level and at a government level.
The cultural problems, yeah, Gen Z's been treated extremely poorly, but I hope that as they're again aging in to adulthood and trying to make those first few big steps, that yes, they have a comfortable environment for that, but also that they see, all right, no matter what, this is going to be a huge challenge and see that as something that's worth meeting.
I mean, I am finally starting to see some signs of life from Zoomers.
Like, I mean, my freshman year of college was when COVID hit.
So the time of my life when I guess matriculation should have occurred was virtually.
It was with masks on if I was lucky, but typically it was virtually.
So it was like everyone from that might that from my age and younger has been this generation because you're seeing the divide.
So there was, I think it was Gallup at the polling.
There was actually like two Gen Z's as the 24 and up.
So my age and older and then my age and younger, those two generations.
And you see it politically where the Zoomers that are like born basically before 2000, they're actually kind of in line with millennials politically speaking with a myriad of other traits.
And then the Zoomers that were born after 2000 are to the right of Genghis Khan or to the left of Karl Marx.
So you're seeing that, and it's like you said, I think it's that cynicism that came into play during COVID where it's like, okay, I don't know where I am politically.
I just know whatever this is needs to be destroyed.
And unfortunately, a lot of people are running to the left as well to address that issue.
But yeah, it does freak me out.
But it is, I'm starting to see some signs of life.
Like in my friends' circles, at least, I mean, I come from a religious community.
So there's a lot of Southern Baptists, but they're getting married.
They're having kids.
It's starting to happen.
There are some signs of life, but it's anecdotes.
If you look at the general numbers, things aren't looking too hot.
There's a lot of struggle.
It's this interesting thing when the baby boomers die off, right?
Because you're seeing stories of how there's a power plant, there's a power plant somewhere, and it's being propped up almost entirely by like three baby boomers.
So the baby boomers get a lot of flack for a lot of things, and a lot of it's pretty fair.
But one thing that does need to be said is what's going to happen when they die to a lot of these institutions that are like solely propped up by baby boomers.
It's a really, really horrifying thought.
I mean, I don't know if you've thought about this much.
Yeah, the boomer succession problem is a big deal.
And I think that that's, I mean, I saw a chart the other day that was like the percentage of congressmen or Congress human beings who are above the age of 70 has just skyrocketed.
And like we've, we're seeing something that, again, people aren't getting these things passed down to them.
It's also striking.
I mean, you look at even on our side, you see, well, you've got Trump, who is a boomer, and then who's his successor?
You've got J.D. Vance, or at least that's how people see him as a successor.
And so like there are a whole generation, like the Gen X at some level got skipped in terms of being able to pass things down.
And so when the boomer generation is having to pass things down, broadly speaking, it's skipping a generation and is only happening when it has to, which I think is not good for Gen X and not good for the millennials who end up just getting handed this stuff, maybe before they're ready.
Who knows?
I mean, I hope that, you know, like I love J.D. Vance.
I'll sign on for whatever he has coming up.
But the fact that that leadership has had to skip a generation is not a good thing.
But my hope is, again, that all these people will get on board and recognize, hey, it is interesting, yeah, that the cynical generations, that's the generation that gets skipped for power.
So Gen X being the cynical generation doesn't get a president, at least as far as we can tell.
So yeah, it's a problem generally, but there are places where it's happening.
And again, I'm also in a religious community and the passing of the torch is happening at a different rate and in a different way because people recognize, again, like the people coming after have to be equipped.
So yeah, I don't see a broad solution to that other than, okay, people who have these institutions being able to pass down before they have to, before they're forced to, is something that can be done.
But it's difficult.
Like succession is inherently difficult.
If you've done something that you're proud of, if you've done something that you think is really great, being able to hand that off to anybody is a daunting task.
And so broadly, the boomer generation didn't do that.
But my hope is that we can get better at that because we're going to be in a way better place broadly.
I mean, Gen X really got shafted because like, well, that's kind of their fault, though, because every song they wrote like in the 80s and 90s was about like fighting and partying and stuff.
So like fight for your right to party.
I don't know.
Maybe you should have fought for your right for like election, like the, you know, elections.
Like you are seeing anecdotally in some of these circles that things are moving as you would expect them to over the grand course of history.
And Tim actually talks about this a lot is this will actually play into the hands of the birth rate dropping.
We'll actually play into the hands of conservatives because they're the ones that are having children and raising these children up.
And they will also be conservatives and Christians, presumably.
So I think there actually is a situation where we'll have some growing pains for like 20, 30 years, but right now they're infants, they're in diapers.
But the people right now that are under 10 years old, it's probably actually a pretty conservative generation.
Even with the waves of immigration, there's just, you're seeing these conservative families and they're popping out kids like, you know, like Pez dispensers.
Well, and yeah, that's the Dana White point where you talked about like if you kids are going to be at if you're at any level a monster, if you're like competent at anything, you're going to way outshine the sort of iPad kids and you're going to be leading the world.
Yeah, if you have any capability, if you can speak in front of people and if you can think through things clearly, you're an alien to most of your generation.
Yeah, if you like don't have an interest in buying a Labooboo, or I guess in your case, a Funko Pop, then you probably have a decent chance of being in the next admin.
So it's a good.
I kind of want to leave you with the Trump agenda, people are starting to blackpill a little bit.
Yeah, on the Epstein stuff, I think the rollout was not as good as it could have been, again, from my perspective, from the outside.
But I think that recognizing that the Russia gate thing is a bigger dragon, I think is a good thing for them to see.
So I think, like I said, the Epstein rollout, I think, could have been improved.
I have my complaints about that.
But I'm glad that if it's a deep state thing, if the question is, is Trump addressing the deep state problems?
Something that the news, that every single news organization was forced to talk about for two years at least is something that we should also see as a big deal.
And it's personal to Trump.
It's obviously closer to his heart.
So I recognize that there are things, again, that I would do differently, but that's me.
I'm just a guy in a bunker in Idaho.
But I think that, yeah, I'm extremely pleased.
I love the direction.
I think that a lot of the fact that the left is as upset as they are is great.
And I think that Trump should just see that as a permission slip to do more, because if they're going to give him 110% every single, like if they do one deportation, then hey, you know, why not do 100,000?
So I also recognize, hey, there's a huge jump going from zero deportations, which is what we're seeing, to going to thousands of deportations, which like, I think that's a positive thing.
I think self-deportations can be a big deal.
A lot of my answers are going to be about immigration because that's, again, I see that as a huge, having huge downstream consequences.
But I'm pleased with that.
I think that as they stay, we talked about Stephen Miller, as they stay on that train, as they stay on that thing, I think they're going to be okay.
There are plenty of, since January, since January 20th, there has been constant prediction of the end of MAGA and the end of Trump and, oh, it's finally time to end.
This is all going to explode.
And one of those things was the tariffs.
And people said, oh, the tariffs are going to blow up MAGA.
Elon jumping ship is going to blow up MAGA.
I haven't seen that happen, and I don't think that it's going to.
So I'm much more of a plan truster this time around than I was back in 2016 and on.
But I was a plan truster at that point, but I still have my doubts.
But President Trump, loyalty to President Donald Trump is number one.