LA Riots GOING Nationwide, Trump Preps INSURRECTION ACT, CIVIL WAR Or Summer Of Love ft. Julio Rosas
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They're saying there's going to be more riots tonight.
They're planning other cities to have big riots.
There's talk of massive protests organized across the country for, I believe, like a week from now.
I'm curious.
We've seen a lot of these videos of people waving Mexican flags, but who are these people?
Are they, I mean, are you able to discern whether or not these people are actually Mexican nationals or are they just Americans to support Mexico?
unidentified
I think, I mean, it's hard to say, but I just kind of knowing the culture a little bit more.
I think a lot of it is just like people Or, you know, maybe a grandfather.
in particular, maybe their immediate family member is illegal.
I mean, it is this weird thing, and I don't want to get too much into the Like I am, right?
I was born here, raised here.
But obviously we took different paths, right?
Because there's no way I'm going to go riot and wave a Mexican flag in the city.
I mean, the United States is my country.
But to them, they have this attachment because of this family member, let's say.
And they think, well, we do all this stuff.
It's racism, white supremacy, all this stuff.
Colonialism, Los Angeles was part of Mexico at one point.
And so for them, it's basically their version of return, right?
Return to tradition, return to how things were, which is funny because they can have that national pride, even though they're not necessarily, like I said, from Mexico directly.
Just speaking for myself, it is kind of an interesting and at times a weird dynamic, but you have to choose.
You have to choose.
And for me, and speaking for myself, yes, obviously I know my name, I know what I look like, but the United States is my country.
I like Mexico.
Like I said, I was just there on vacation.
There's a lot of things I like about it, but my loyalty and the country that I want to do But that's why it's frustrating to see because even talking to the Mexicans in Mexico saying, hey, I'm going to go to Los Angeles to cover this, a lot of them were actually saying, yeah, we understand why Trump wants to deport people.
He has to do what's best for his country.
He's not as unpopular as you might think in Mexico, although obviously I would say the majority is, but it's not an overwhelming majority I would hazard.
Yeah, I think I was actually just expressing similarly.
When you have amnesty, when you allow people to come here illegally, they'll have kids.
Those kids are born in California.
They are told—a lot of them are told these leftist ideologies.
They blame white people for everything.
They're told, you know, this used to be Mexico until it was stolen from us in a war.
We were routed.
They invaded.
And it's actually our land.
You grow up with this.
You grow up with Mexican flags in your house.
You grow up being told of your family's heritage in Mexico.
You go vacation to see your grandparents in Mexico.
And then Donald Trump comes in and says, illegal immigrants can't be here.
And what does that mean?
It could be your parents.
It could be your cousin.
It could be your next-door neighbor.
Trump is correct.
This is America with American borders.
But for the individual interests of these people who are Americans, they're thinking, I don't know or care.
I want what's best for me and my family, and my family are not Americans, so I'm not going to let you do this.
You end up seeing them flying American flags.
Now, the question, I guess, is at what point is this insurrection and invasion?
And how do you deal with it?
I mean the Democratic governors are saying don't do anything.
Let me ask you this actually.
In your experience being on the ground, how would you rate the performance of the LAPD and the California State Highway Patrol or the state police?
unidentified
I mean they're doing the best they can.
The problem is that they're not – you can have as many personal as you want in situations like this.
It's if they're unable to actually confront the rioters in any serious way.
The whole reason why that we're in, what, day three, day four into this is because initially LAPD didn't respond to the rioters that are outside the federal holding facility, which is exactly what happened in Portland.
The reason why Portland in 2020 went on for so long at the federal courthouse is because it was just the federal agents and the personnel that they had to bring in because Portland police was forbidden from even talking with the feds.
And it wasn't until they were finally able to cooperate that the riots at the federal courthouse finally stopped.
So that's why what's happening right now is such a – it's such deja vu where it's literally – sure, it's a different issue, but it's the same thing where Trump is cracking down and the sanctuary city mayors and Democrat governors, they're not going to want to cooperate.
They want to borderline interfere with this.
And that's just only going to rile up the people more, because while they might not like, let's say, Kieran Bass or Newsom, they're at least being provided kind of that cover from their local leaders.
And that does matter to a certain extent, right?
That will have an impact.
And then, of course, you have city council members saying, we need to escalate our tactics.
So I think it's going to get worse before it gets better, I think.
And the problem with Los Angeles and Los Angeles County as a whole, with this large population that's sympathetic to the illegal immigrants, is that you can secure the downtown area.
But then what if something pops up in Santa Monica or Glendale or Burbank or Compton?
I mean, Compton was kind of an area that got – And so I know the reported number is 500 Marines in addition to the Guardsmen.
But I think it's going to take a few more units from the 1st Marine Division to – because, again, LA is just so massive.
Well, you called it – you said you were on vacation before the start of riot season.
So is this – do you see this as turning into Summer of Love 2.0?
unidentified
I mean I – if you were to ask me two weeks ago, I'd say I don't know, maybe.
But with today – today and seeing the reaction from, again, the local leaders who are egging this on and trying to fight the Trump administration to – I think this does have the potential to kind of get back up to that level of chaotic behavior.
But, you know, for example, I saw that there's supposed to be a rally today in Tampa, Florida.
That's not going to go anywhere.
I mean, if something gets out of control, that's going to be shut down within the first hour, right?
But, you know, there's Chicago, there's Portland, and New York City was popping off over the weekend, too.
This is how it was, and that's why I took the risk of going to Mexico, because up until this point, the only time when it was kind of like a chaotic situation was during the ICE operation.
But then once the agents left, people didn't go to the jail or go to the federal courthouse or whatever.
They just went home.
So that's why it's significant that Los Angeles, the rioters kept the momentum going.
And then, of course, the response, which then makes them mad.
And, you know, it just spirals out of control to where now it's just like we're just going to attack cops like LAPD even.
There was one viral video where ICE was performing a raid, I think, somewhere in Massachusetts, and a bunch of protesters and rioters come out and start fighting with cops.
So before Trump got elected, I'd been talking about, you know, the period that we're in, it's called the civil strife period.
Civil rights movement was a civil strife period.
Sometimes these things turn into civil wars.
I don't see an immediate in the short term.
This becomes something like that.
But we are starting to see the bubbling up of this unrest and these protests, this fighting with cops.
And I had asked many Democrats, do you think Donald Trump will use the military to enforce deportations?
Of course, they all said yes.
It was one of their talking points.
Trump's a fascist.
He's going to send in the military and violate the law.
And I said, OK, the question then is.
Do Democrats resist this or let Trump do it?
And so what we're starting to see now lends itself to the, I think, the obvious possibility of escalation to some degree.
But either this turns into, I mean, I guess my question to you is based on what we've seen so far in these other cities, in L.A., do you think the Trump administration is going to really escalate this?
unidentified
Well, again, I wouldn't say it's Trump escalated.
I know that's how a lot of people say.
I mean, that's what Newsom and Bass, they're all saying.
Well, he escalated it.
None of this would be necessary if it wasn't for the rioters from Friday.
I, HSI, I mean, the White House and DHS have released the list of people that they were targeting in that operation.
And it was people that we don't want in our country just because they shouldn't be here, number one, but also number two, these are some, you know, These are not the very fine people.
I mean with the – Fires, torching of the Waymo vehicles, the smashing of the police SUVs.
I also saw a video of a guy punching several cops in the face.
Now, I covered riots and civil unrest on the ground.
In the United States, I'd never actually seen it get to this level.
Certainly, there were some wild moments.
There were de-arrests.
Sometimes they were fights.
I mean, you've got Democrats now at ICE facilities, like Rep McIver.
She's on video, closed fist, punching a federal law enforcement office.
I think it might have been ICE or HSI.
You've been covering this stuff for a long time.
Am I wrong about this, or does it seem like they're more violent than they've been in the past several years?
unidentified
Well, I mean, yeah, especially, certainly since 2021, I would say.
And I would even say that the rhetoric has gotten worse in terms of agging on the rioters, saying that we need to fight back even harder.
Because, I mean, you had a Los Angeles City Councilwoman the other day saying, if they're going to come in and escalate, we've got to escalate.
I mean, that's pretty direct, right?
And I think it's just because they know that the Trump administration is not going to tolerate this stuff.
They are actually going to act, and that's why it's significant that Trump activated the National Guard under his federal authority.
He said, you know what?
Newsom, you're clearly not doing anything, so we're going to take action.
It was a little bit of a slower response, especially with Democratic governors, back in 2020.
As someone who was in the military, especially in the reserves, which is what the Marine Corps reserves, but the National Guard reserves, I mean, that takes time.
You can send out the order to like, okay, we got to deploy, but you got to call the guys in.
You got to get all your stuff ready.
You got to get the orders.
You got to get all these plans and processes in place before you actually cross that line of departure.
And that's why – You can't wait a day or two because it takes a day or two for the reinforcements to actually come in.
Are you saying that you think Trump was prepping the poll in the National Guard a day or two before they actually came down?
unidentified
Well, that's what Holman was saying.
He was saying that we're one step ahead of them.
We're already calling in the National Guard.
And I think they learned a lot from 2020.
I mean, they were in office during that time.
And so I think the plans were definitely in place to say, okay, you know, with these operations and potential unrest, we've got to make sure that whichever state that these are happening in, that we can quickly call it in.
Now, they are kind of limited under the current activation that they're under because it's not an Insurrection Act deployment.
But it's still significant because if you have the National Guardsmen, Protect a federal facility that frees up police officers who can do domestic operations to get a better handle on the unrest.
You know, I'm just thinking about the past decade plus, and you mentioned how we have a riot season, and I'm just like, man, I don't know.
Was there a time when we didn't have a riot season?
Because I feel like we did.
And it's become sport for these people.
It's summer.
It's time to go outside and fight with cops for some reason and just join in whatever the cause may be because the cause seems to be different.
It's just whatever ideologically left-aligned cause.
So I'm just – I'm thinking about the NATO protests.
I'm thinking about BLM.
Now we've got these ICE protests or the Palestine-Israel protests.
And it seems like as long as it's summer.
And we can go outside.
People are starting to do this.
But is this the reality of where we're going?
Every summer we can expect major cities to just have violence and firebombs?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, and even in places like Chicago and New York, right?
I mean, it doesn't even take a controversial thing, right, warranted or not.
All you got to have is a bunch of 200 youths.
Show up at one spot and start just doing spontaneous looting and everything.
We saw that in Chicago earlier in the spring.
It was the first nice Friday of the spring, and a bunch of kids, teenagers, showed up and caused mayhem.
And the kid got shot, actually, at that one.
So, yeah.
That's why I always joke.
That's why I always joke whenever I see these videos when we get to this time.
There's a reason why the college encampments last year didn't start in December.
It started in April.
It started in mid-April.
I just think we're going to be in a season regardless.
It depends on the issue and depending on the issue, it will dictate whether or not it's Because with the Palestinian-Israel thing, as much attention as we give that to, demographically, it's not a lot of people in the country compared to, let's say, illegal immigrants, which is why this riot season has been a little bit more because not only is the administration different,
but there's just more people, like we were talking about at the beginning, that are more directly connected.
That are saying, okay, well, I might not go out and march for Gaza or Israel, but I'm willing to march out for my TIA.
You know, it'd be funny if Trump just comes out and he's like, you know what?
We're going to stop doing all ICE enforcement until maybe November, and then we're going to ramp it up tenfold.
We're going to deploy the military.
I wonder what their plan is for this winter, because smooth sailing.
If ICE does raids and deports—let me add this.
They're largely going after the criminal elements first.
I honestly don't care who they go after.
If you're here illegally, you've got to go.
It's a deportation.
If you're here illegally and there's an order for expedited removal, we give you a ride home.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I think that if Trump makes massive moves come this winter, because he just gets in at the end of January.
Still a little cold.
He's got to get his administration ready.
But this next end of December, I doubt you can get 10 protesters to show up for anything, let alone a riot started, if Trump's doing ice raids in the dead of winter.
Because nobody ever comes out.
If it's raining, they don't come out.
It could be 69 degrees, and then everyone's outside, rain starts, they're gone.
What do you think?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, because in...
I believe it was 2020, in the winter.
Where it was the first time a Minneapolis police officer shot, and it was a good shoot, shot someone during an altercation.
And it was justified, if I'm remembering correctly.
But it was a dead winner.
And yes, I know Minnesotans are used to the cold, but it was really cold.
And because it was still Minneapolis, people did show up, but it was like 15, 20, and they did start a fire, but the only reason they started the fire was so they could keep warm.
It was just like a makeshift fire pit.
And so they weren't making Molotov cocktails or anything.
They just wanted to stay warm and nothing happened.
And same thing in Kenosha when the, uh, the police officer that shot Jacob Blake, when the DA announced that they weren't going to charge him, it was, uh, That's the play.
And so I was debating.
At the time, I was debating.
Should I go to Kenosha in case something happens?
But it was, again, and they did prepare.
They brought the National Guard.
They put the fence around the courthouse again in January in Wisconsin.
And, again, there was a protest, but it was like 20, 35 people, and they just marched around coldly, slowly, and that was it.
And then the next day, it was January 6th, so that's a whole other thing.
So, yeah.
It is very weather-dependent, and that's why I'm saying this is a perfect storm.
Because even here in Los Angeles, right now, it's supposed to be just sunny.
There's no chance of rain.
There's no chance of being super cold.
Right now it's...
Let me see.
It's in the 70s, yeah.
It heats up, obviously, in the afternoon.
But it's supposed to be 75, 80. You know, 7580s.
So even the conditions, like just naturally, the natural conditions are favorable for these things to continue, obviously not just here, but even in Portland, Seattle, where miserable most of the year.
It was the first one because I didn't have any of my gear.
I didn't have any gear at that time.
I was just wearing my T-shirt.
Thankfully, even though the cop was in the wrong, he thankfully shot me where they're supposed to shoot you because if it was a few feet above, I probably wouldn't be living.
If it was a few feet below, you'd be talking to Giulio Rosas right now.