From BLM To Trump Supporters, The Cartier Family w/ The Cartier Family
Tim Pool joins The Cartier Family to discuss why they're voting for Trump & the trend of Black Americans becoming conservatives.
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Brock Appiah
Tahj Whitfield
Solomon Brent
Brandon Rhone
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Welcome to the Culture War Podcast.
We got an awesome show.
We're hanging out with some really cool people.
Right now, there's a big news story around whether or not Kamala Harris can maintain her support in the black community.
Donald Trump apparently is doing better than ever with young black men, and this could sink Kamala Harris.
We don't know for sure what's going to happen.
A lot of people – they said in 2016, 2020 that Trump's improving dramatically with the black vote.
But we've got some people here, probably experts I guess, considering – one of your first videos – I don't know about one of your first videos, but let me put it this way.
You know that— They get you in the comments like, hey, watch this, and then you're like, whoa.
unidentified
Yeah, literally.
The crazy part, he reacted to us, too.
He did.
I watched us react to him.
He was surprised.
He seemed pretty unfazed, though.
He started smiling.
They were like, you're affecting the next generation.
He said, ah, it's great.
Another thing, too, that I would say, when we first started reacting, we would react to Tom McDonald a lot.
And he would kind of have messages that would resonate with us.
He would say things that typically a younger black person wouldn't really agree with.
And we would hear it and be like, well...
That's actually the truth.
So for me, that's kind of why my mind started kind of changing in that direction.
Because it was like, we were positive, but he just said this and that.
But low-key, that is true, what he just said.
And that's when I started thinking, like, you know.
And I remember me and Taj one day, when Trump, in 2020, when Trump lost the election, we were sitting in the house and we were just like, We just, like, just started kind of even thinking about politics at all.
I didn't even think about voting or anything.
And I wasn't, like, hard either way.
But, like, I was kind of like everybody else.
I was just like, yeah, I guess, you know, since I'm black, I'm a Democrat.
And then that's when I just had a feeling.
I was like, Taj, I just feel like it wasn't good that...
I definitely want to ask about the Democrat thing, but I do want to go back to Thomas Sowell real quick because you were saying that he was saying something like that black culture is not supposed to be this way.
What do you mean by that?
What was he saying?
unidentified
I don't know what exactly he said, but he was bringing the redneck culture into it.
Where it came from.
Yeah, he said like the ghetto black culture, the subculture is what he referred to it as.
He said it comes from like European rednecks who were poor and blacks were among them after slavery.
So like...
Kind of being ghetto.
They kind of adopted it because they were poor and blacks were poor.
And that was just kind of how they adopted it.
And he was basically saying that's not what real black culture is, but it's uplifted as black culture.
It's really like a subculture within black culture.
And he was just basically saying how it's adopted as something that's normal when it's really negative.
It was really deep.
And I remember we were just sitting there like...
It's so real.
He's really breaking it down.
To hear it from someone like him, who's a way older God than us, it's okay.
So we're not really tripping when we say that this is bad and this ain't really how we're supposed to be.
But yeah, that really just opened our mind up to it.
We watched a couple of his videos and the way he just breaks stuff down was really easy to digest.
There's a conspiracy theory that racists intentionally promoted negative culture to black communities through rap music.
And I'm not saying rap music itself is bad.
I'm saying they put messages in there like, get drunk, bang women, buy drugs and all that stuff, so that young men growing up would chase after something that was detrimental.
unidentified
100%.
Oh, that's facts.
Yeah.
That's 100% facts.
Especially in the black community.
I don't know if this is a fact, but I've heard several times like some of the same people who own some of these record labels own some prisons.
So it's like you're trying to get them from here to there.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's a fact or a fact.
Check me on that, but that's what I've heard.
And then, hearing Lyndon B. Johnson say we'll have black people wrapped around the Democrat Party for 200 years.
Yeah.
I think it's funny.
A long time.
It's actually crazy.
Speaking of that, it's actually crazy, like, the backlash you receive for, like, just being black and not saying, like, saying you don't want to be a Democrat.
The biggest podcasts are not talking about politics.
Only now because the politicians are trying to buy into them.
But the biggest podcasts are maybe somewhat...
They might mention something political.
But you look at the...
If I were to pull it up, you're going to find three guys talking about dinosaurs or something nonsense.
General interest comedy shows, not overtly political.
And then the moment you guys...
Watch someone like Thomas Sowell and you're like, hey man, maybe they've been lying to us and you get passionate about it, they say you're doing it for money.
unidentified
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy because we don't just blindly agree with everything.
If we don't agree with something, we'll just not agree.
I find it interesting.
I think people just do that because they think the world should see things from their point of view.
So when you kind of disrupt that and don't do that or fall in line with what they think you should do, they start just throwing the labels and insults at you.
Again, it's mostly online.
In person, it's always love, especially from people of color.
Black people.
Yeah, black people, Hispanic people.
I was just in Dallas the other weekend.
A dude came up to me.
A black dude came up to me and was like, dude, I love your videos.
So every time we go out now, we get recognized by people our age.
No, actually, we were in L.A., actually, at this movie premiere, and these old dudes came up, this old Hispanic dude, Los Angeles, like, I love your videos.
I watch every single one.
Like, I want you to know you're making a difference because you found someone like me all the way in California.
I was like, hey, thanks.
That's awesome.
I remember we went to the Reagan event.
One of the producers was like, y'all the biggest people that's in here right now.
Isn't it crazy, though, that, like, You'll meet these people, and they're going to say, thank you for making your videos.
I listen to them.
I hear what you're saying.
And the people online who are mad at you and calling you slurs and names and all that stuff, it feels more like, you know, I'm just going to be mean and call it a cult.
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unidentified
Stay informed, stay engaged, and I'll catch you there. - And they were like ecstatic about something.
I could like see it even before I even heard what they were saying.
I could see it on their faces.
And they were like, "Bro, we had the best idea of all time." I was like, what, what?
It's like, we making a YouTube channel!
I was like, alright, bet!
So we started doing YouTube videos, we tried basketball videos, prank videos, football videos, and then we started doing reactions and then it just hit.
But as far as track, like, we just had like a super, like, we was just grinding in college, like, we would wake up, like, good treatment and all that, go to practice, and then me and Brandon were getting our master's degrees, they were still in the undergrad, so we would go to class all day, and we would start at like 10pm, 11pm.
Yeah, every day.
And like we would go to sleep like two, three in the morning and then wake up and just do it again.
And then so we just kept doing that.
And I still run track right now.
I run professionally for the Ghana national team.
So I just go to practice.
Yeah.
And then come home and then record all day.
So I just feel like it's just a matter of using the talents that God has blessed me with.
You know, I feel like I'm good at YouTube and I'm good at track.
So I'm just I'm gonna keep doing them.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Yeah, no.
Like you said, I came in late.
I was actually at school in Kansas when they had started.
I graduated from there.
I remember I had, I don't know, I did a lot when I was at Kansas.
So my senior year, I had the extra year from COVID. Like, they gave us a year back.
And I remember everybody, I got accepted to grad school there.
And I remember everybody was like, oh, yeah, you're coming back.
I was like, no, I'm not.
And I remember I text Brock.
Me and him are boys from high school.
We're from the same city in Oklahoma.
So I texted him.
I was like, yeah, I think I want to transfer for my next year.
He immediately called me.
He's like, you serious?
I was like, yeah.
He said, I'm going to talk to my coach right now.
And that's against NCAA rules.
So he was like, he's like saying stuff to Brock and Brock was relaying it to me.
So he was like, yeah, he said apply and call back.
So I applied literally a week later.
I applied literally when we got off the phone that same day right there.
Paid $20, applied to University of Louisiana.
Next week, I got accepted.
Called him again.
He's like, alright, do this.
And we're gone.
Then, summer goes on.
I get accepted.
Da-da-da-da-da.
End up going to Louisiana.
And I just moved in.
And they were doing YouTube.
So, I mean, I had heard about it.
Obviously, Brock was telling me about it.
I think we were at, like, what?
10,000?
I don't know.
Yeah, we weren't very big.
15,000, 10,000.
Around that range when I started doing it.
And, yeah, I just kind of fell into it with the guys.
And, I knew he would be good on the channel too, like just on his personality.
I knew it would work.
Yeah, no.
It was definitely a lot of fun, but my situation was different when I came in because I was a grad student and I was a grad assistant as well, also on the track team.
So I'm doing stuff all I'm waking up, going to GA. Then I go to lunch, practice, treatment, class.
Then I get a class.
It's 9 o'clock.
We have four videos a day till midnight every day.
And I was like, man, I'm really dedicated to this.
I really want to see this break off.
And it got to the point, even my teachers would show the videos in class, like, yeah, look what Brandon's doing.
But the reason I bring this up is because I wonder if, you know, you guys don't sound like you come from a background where you're involved in, you know, I guess what, ghetto culture or like, you know...
unidentified
Yeah, we're around it for sure.
We're around it, yeah.
Family members and stuff.
Especially as black people, you're going to be exposed to it at some point.
Like...
I mean, I grew up in the hood, east side OKC, and, like, my house had bullet holes in the back window and stuff.
But, I mean, I only lived there until I was nine.
Then we moved to, like, suburbs.
It was super nice.
But, I mean, my parents, like, when I went out and played, they was like, you can't go across the street.
You can't do this and that.
So, I mean, that was just normal to me.
I didn't really realize it was different until we left, and I saw the difference.
So, I mean, it's really, like...
Like, it's really just on you.
Yeah.
I can say just me going to college made me, like, step away from that environment because my friends, like, some of them right now is doing some bad stuff right now I don't approve of.
So I'd say going to college kind of pushed me away from it and see a different environment and see, like, a different outlook of life.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, man, before, like, we even started the YouTube, I was hanging around some guys that, I mean, I really shouldn't have been hanging around with.
I mean, just doing stuff they shouldn't have been doing.
And I was telling them, man, you know, I'm going to start a YouTube channel, bro.
And they're laughing at me, like, bro, really?
You're going to start a YouTube channel?
And I'm like, bro, I think it could really work.
And going back to school, being with Taj, I mean, man, me and him, because we, he, like, had the camera to start the YouTube.
I forgot.
What was your degree?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I have video production.
Yeah, so he's the whole reason this even started because I didn't know about a camera at all.
I didn't know what I was going to do at all.
I mean, it just kind of popped on my head.
I was like, bro, maybe we could start a YouTube channel.
What do you guys think is the motivation for your friends and the people in the black community to want to be involved in things that are not good?
I don't know what those things are, but you mentioned they're doing things that are not good.
unidentified
It's the culture, man.
Just like the culture, you know.
People want fast money.
People want fast money.
They want to be hard.
They want to be cool.
They want street cred.
It's a lot.
We can talk two hours on the way.
That's a lot of factors.
The main reason is just like you are who you surround yourself with.
So that's what everybody else is doing.
So that's what they do.
No, facts.
When I moved to a suburban area, my high school, we're on the edge of the suburb called Edmond and OKC, so we get a lot of kids from OKC. A lot of them, they would try to put the hood, and they would hang around each other, and they would try to do dumb stuff.
I knew a lot of guys that were super talented athletes that threw it all away because they wanted to be in the streets.
It wanted to be tough.
Yeah.
I mean, because I went to different schools, man, so I've seen a lot of different environments.
I went to probably the...
Whitest school ever called the Woodlands in New Orleans, Texas.
And just seeing that environment coming from, you know, black schools, I was like, this is totally different, man.
I was having difficult, like, times in school.
And I was like, man, this stuff is actually pretty hard, you know?
And then, I mean, I remember just crying to my mom, like, man, this stuff's too hard.
She's putting me in hard classes.
She was like, this is going to be good for you.
And I'm just, I didn't realize it was going to be good for me until I went to, after that, I went to back to the hood, a hood school.
And then they were like, yeah, man, you come to class, man, you get an A. And I was like, what the heck?
Yeah.
It's pretty crazy.
You know, kids walking up to me like, hey, bro, you want to fight, bro?
I'm like, what the heck, bro?
I'm like, no.
And then I went to a school after that that was kind of like, you know, white and black people.
And it was pretty cool for me.
I was like, yeah, I can vibe here, you know?
And even there, you know, I get into it with some kids that, you know, well, being friends with some kids that, you know, are part of the subculture, basically.
And they're like, yeah, bro, like, pull your pants down, bro.
Why are you wearing your pants like that?
Pull them down a little bit, you know?
And I'm like...
Damn, man.
Like, why do I have to do that, you know?
So then I fell into that, you know, trying to be cool and stuff like that.
And then my dad's always like, bro, you know, because he comes from that.
He's like, that never gets you anywhere.
So then I realized, I'm like, hey, you know, then I'm going to college.
I think our blessing was we all come from good families.
A lot of people in the black culture don't have like a good family unit or they don't have good examples in their family of what to strive to be like.
So I think that may be a big like factor of to why They do a lot of negative stuff because they don't have no good examples.
And the example that's put forth in the black culture that's cool is the street stuff or being hood and being ghetto and all that stuff.
So it's either you have a good example in your family or you just go to what's out there.
On social media.
Yeah, so that's the two roads you got.
And that's why I think it's pretty crazy that people got upset with Byron Donald about what he said about...
What was it exactly he said?
He was saying about how the marriage rate was higher during...
What was it called again?
Jim Crow.
So during that time, I felt like it was more like activists and people really...
You can look up to something like that.
And now it's just like it's nothing to really look up to, you know?
So that's why I think it's different.
Rappers glorifying that other side.
And back in those days, in the 50s, you had the strong family units.
And they was really struggling and fighting for their positions.
They're fighting real racism.
Yeah, there was real...
Real racism, real struggle, what we had to fight for, the position we're in now.
And you had moms and dads setting that example for their children, that good foundation, and now the single mother rate in black people, the black community in general, is the highest.
So that alone is the foundation that's missing.
So when you have a rocky foundation and then no good examples of what to strive to be like, You just, it's, you gonna either get pulled in one direction or you might get lucky and go in another.
And more often than not, they get pulled in the negative direction.
I feel like a lot of people don't have no goals or, like, try to strive for something.
That's also, like, a problem.
Just don't know what's possible.
You know, it's crazy.
They actually demonized Byron for that, man.
That was crazy, yeah.
I really think they took his comments out of context.
Like, they tried to, they didn't focus, you know, on narratives.
And they call him the black face of white supremacy.
It's crazy because...
It's racist because a black man would say something that is favored by people in this country who happen to be a Republican.
Byron Donalds, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, they call them white supremacists or race traitors or whatever.
And I'm like, isn't it kind of racist to imply that a guy who...
It is.
They're acting like the only reason people are supporting them...
What is it?
Let me put it this way.
I watched Fox News the other day.
What's his name?
Lawrence Jones?
I'm not sure if I'm getting his name wrong.
He's great, though.
But he went to a bunch of barber shops in the Bronx, and he was asking black men who they're voting for, why they're voting.
And one guy said Kamala Harris.
And he said these young black men have the slave mentality where they want to vote for Massa, and that's the people who are voting for Trump.
And I'm just like...
Isn't it kind of...
I mean, isn't it some kind of racism that if you're going to assume if somebody has an idea they like, it can only be because they're trapped in racism?
Like, their race is the reason why they feel this way when it's just...
The way I see it is, if you're stupid, you're stupid.
If you're smart, you're smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just think like, okay, so all these years, you know, when black people were really going through things like, you know, getting out of slavery and this and that, and we fought for freedom to make your own decisions.
So now that we're finally, you know, we're here, not finally, we've been free, but now that we're here, 2024, 2025, and it's like, y'all are still like...
In this mindset that it's like we all have to think the same way even though we're free.
I saw a quote from my pastor.
It was like, if you tell someone that a door is locked, they'll never try to open it even though it's open.
They're just telling people, yeah, you're oppressed, you're racist, this and that.
And people sitting there eating it up.
And then it's like, wait.
And I remember I sat there and I thought, well, how many racist things have happened to me?
And it was like, compared to what they was doing, like, nothing.
Like, my life has been completely fine.
I remember my coach at Louisiana, because, you know, Louisiana is, you know, a southern state, the heart of the south.
We was south Louisiana.
He was talking about how, like, when he was in college, we had a white coach who went to a HBCU. And so...
He understood, like, black people a lot.
He was like, the teachers there would get on the students so bad when they would, like, come to class and be, you know, ungrateful for the situation they had.
And they're like, we fought for y'all to get here to do this.
And I was thinking, like, yeah, probably back then in the 40s, 50s, like, people were fighting just to go to school.
And now it's like, everyone can go to school.
You can do all these things.
We have all these opportunities.
But we're still sitting here crying about racism and all these things.
And I think it's just from the perspective that we have.
You know what's crazy about Coach though?
I remember one day he told us, it was like, I think a black graduation or something that was going on.
And he was all like, now imagine if white people had that, man.
Yes, because the redline train, the real estate agents basically conspired to be like, make sure the black people can only live in this area so they're not near the white people because it'll negatively impact property values.
That was in the 80s when they finally put an end to it.
So I can imagine if you're like 60...
You're saying you don't understand how bad it was in the race.
unidentified
I get it.
That makes sense.
I do like that you highlighted that.
Because when you look at black history and the things black people have to go through to get to the position we are today, it's like, why would you not go to college?
Because black people fought for your right to go to college.
Why would you not try to buy a home?
Because people couldn't buy homes.
It's like, why would you not fight to be successful?
The stuff and opportunity we have now in America...
People fought and died for that.
My great-great-grandma, she was like 90-something.
She was born in 1919.
I remember she was telling me about how she went to school.
It was segregated.
She had to fight to go to college.
My whole family, on my dad's side, my whole family all went to this HBCU in Oklahoma because it's the only place they could go to school.
My dad was one of the first ones to not go there.
He went to OU. My mom, she was adopted and All her stuff.
She put herself through college and law school.
So they really told me black history and told me, why would you throw all the stuff that the people before you fought for away and not be successful?
And that's what people in the streets are doing.
You're saying...
Oh, they went through that stuff, so America's doomed, so why try?
And I'm going to just go throw myself away and make nothing of myself.
That's almost a slap in the face to those who came before you and died for you.
And that's why I say a lot of people don't have an example of what to strive for or know what could be if you go fight and try to go make something of yourself.
So I think that's one of the biggest disconnects we have.
You know, it's crazy that the same people that will throw their life away will tell me I'm wrong for being an agga.
No, that's facts.
What do you want?
I don't care if I please the people.
I do not care if I please the people at all.
No, and that's a great example because the ones who don't try or are too afraid to try or blame racism on the reason they won't try are the ones that are the most brainwashed and easily controlled by the media narratives and everything that's thrown out there.
So, like, they're the ones that tell us, like...
Oh, you guys are dumb.
You guys are sellouts.
You're this, you're that.
I'm like, look, bro, if y'all really watch the videos and listen to what we say and how we got to this point, you realize this is not a lie.
This is not something we're just putting on for show.
This is real stuff we're doing, like real talk.
We're really putting in the work and trying to learn this stuff and do the legwork.
And I think just us being young, And being, like, ourselves.
Like, we haven't changed.
Like, we're still ourselves.
Same way we are on camera, off camera.
I think that resonates with people who really do watch the videos and take in what we do.
Because they can see, like, we're being for real.
Because a lot of people have told me, like, you really opened my mind up to this.
I went night crawling in Chicago with a journalist friend of mine, and there was something like, I don't know, seven or eight murders that had happened on the south side.
And a handful of them, it was black men killing black men and some innocent people dying.
A young black guy would go on Snapchat and then insult a guy and his girlfriend and say something like, I'm going to get your girl and I'm going to do this, that, or otherwise.
So the guy would be like, okay, pull out a gun, go to the guy's house, and kill him.
And I thought about that, seeing you guys, you're working really, really hard to try and succeed and build something that lasts and to be happy, to be healthy.
And then there's a component there where I feel like a question needs to be asked.
Are you better off being hard on the South Side where you're going to insult some guy's girlfriend and then die over it?
Or are you going to start a business, eat right, train?
And it's fascinating to me that they criticize you guys over saying, hey, maybe it's better to own a business and be hard workers and succeed and have a family.
It's like a lot of what we see from the left, I don't want to just blanket every single one of them, is it's destructive.
unidentified
Oh, 100%.
I think what you said is 100% correct, and a lot of people, especially even, it's weird to say this, but a lot of rappers have been saying that recently.
Like, I heard a rapper the other day, Rilo Rodriguez, he was like, so you think I'm supposed to stack this money up and do all these things just to mess it up so you can say I'm real?
Like we were saying, you're either going to try to please black people and be black and do what they want you to do, or you're going to be white and be a square.
So if you care what people think, if you live your life based on what people think about you, no matter what, someone's going to be upset.
Meet a Machine is going to get real pissed off about it.
unidentified
No, facts.
You want to know what's crazy?
It's something we've been noticing a lot, especially since we have been paying attention a lot more lately.
When you watch the news and TV, there's never very many masculine black men they have pushing rhetoric, especially on the Democrat side.
It's always a gay dude.
Or a dude that's kind of a sissy.
What's his name?
Van Jones.
There was another dude that was crying on TV. It's always either a pussy or a gay dude.
There's never someone that's a masculine man.
But on the other side, you have men like Scott Jennings.
You have a whole bunch of other male masculine figures.
Jesse Waters.
Speaking for the Republican side, but for the black men's point of view, it's either a woman who's married to a white guy More often than not.
Or a gay dude.
Or a pussy.
I'm like, this is very interesting.
And when you look at their spouses, they're usually in an interracial marriage.
But also, I'd like to point out that they always have that...
And then they'll demonize people like Byron Donalds and Tim Scott and Wesley Hunt, all these Republican senators that are black men who have white wives or not black wives for having that when there's a lot of people on their side, like even their presidential candidate who has a white husband.
The double standard that they have is absolutely insane.
To me, the left seems like they're against men.
I don't want to see no type of masculinity at all.
They demonize masculinity, especially as young men.
They tell young men, it's okay to paint your nails and stuff.
It's getting crazy out here.
I don't know what's been going on, man.
It's getting crazy out here.
That's why it's pretty easy to be Republican.
That's what I'm saying.
They trying to tell me a man is a woman, a woman is a man.
That's a problem.
At the end of the day, we got to stand up and be men.
There's certain things that men don't do.
I remember I had an argument with this girl once.
Because I remember she was like, oh, I think Noah Lyles is cool.
I said, yeah, I think I respect Noah Lyles and everything he's done.
But to me...
As a man, I think he's kind of a pussy because he paints his nails.
And she got livid.
She was hot.
She was like, no, no, no.
Men can express themselves in nontraditional ways, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, look, as a man, there's just certain things that men don't do.
And that's one of them.
And she was so upset.
Obviously she was a liberal.
But she was just so mad that I said that.
To me, it makes sense.
When I say this to other men, it makes sense.
Like, I'm not saying it's gay, but it's not manly.
I mean, you guys had a BLM poster in your first video.
So, I mean, I wouldn't call you guys.
I don't know.
You weren't activists.
unidentified
Nah, nah.
We was just regular.
We went to some poster that was cool.
We just cared about black lives, literally.
That was it.
You know what's crazy?
The video we shot.
When we were at a Black Lives Matter protest or whatever, at the end of the video, we gave some white guy, homeless guy, some shoes on the end of the video.
And some money.
So it's like we didn't know, you know?
We didn't know what it was really standing for and stuff like that, you know?
And then I realized, whatever, like, they only scream that when a cop kills a black person.
But like you said, in Chicago, during them seven-day murders in one day, I didn't hear it once.
No.
Black lives don't matter then.
But they matter when, you know?
Yeah.
That's why...
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, have a killing, then the same person that killed them gonna make a song on the internet.
Yeah.
And everybody gonna love it.
No black lives matter then.
The defund the police thing is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard.
Do you want to hurt to help black people?
Because it's like, I've seen so many black on black crime, so it's just like, do we defund black people?
You know?
It's almost the same thing, you know?
It's like, I see more black on black crime than I see an officer on black crime.
A white officer on a black crime.
I just don't see that.
So it's just like, and then I tell somebody, well, the hood's already defunded.
I'm like...
Actually, it's not.
I was talking to somebody about the stats and they were telling me the stats are wrong.
They're like, stats are lies.
I was like, well, we can see it on the internet.
We can see everything.
I'm going to say we can manipulate the data many different ways and the stats still say the same thing.
It was actually my mom.
I was arguing.
My mom's a lawyer.
She thinks she knows everything sometimes.
She's intelligent.
Love you, mom.
Sometimes we were arguing.
I remember she was like, oh, no, that's not true.
I said, all right, let's take it a step deeper.
What's the data of this?
I think I was talking about like the black single family homes has got up to like almost 70%.
And she was like, no, that's just because they're having babies out of wedlock.
I said, all right, let's take it to where a step further to black kids with no dad at all.
It was like 58%.
So it went from 70 to 58.
And I remember she was like, well, I still don't agree with that.
I was like, well, this is from fatherhood.org.
Yeah.
I was like, how deep does it get, mom?
I was like, what point do you recognize that this is a problem?
And she was like, we just have to agree to disagree.
I was like, alright, whatever.
I don't know.
I feel like that's a problem.
Because growing up, I seen a lot of...
I'm in a single mother home, so I seen a lot of my friends growing up in a single mother home.
So that's why I be like...
I cannot say that's wrong when I argue with people.
But you want to know something?
I'll take it a step further.
This is a theory I've come up with, me personally.
So, I think the reason why the Democrat Party has such a grip on black people is the fact that, obviously, I think Democrat rhetoric...
It plays on women's fears.
You know, it plays on fear, right?
Women are emotionally thinking, so when they're pushing rhetoric from every mainstream media outlet where people watch news and think they're getting informed, the average person thinks they're getting informed, and it's playing on their fear, and they play on this fear of white supremacy and white people this and that, white people are against you, da, da, da, da.
And women eat that up.
Predominantly black women who are the highest supporters of the Democrat Party, they're going to repeat that to their children.
And if there's no father in the home, because there's so much single motherhood, like it's just going to come down through the children from the mob.
It's going to be a cycle.
Yeah.
And then even if you look a step further than that, you have all these black women who are in the Democrat Party that hold positions of government, who also repeat the same things like Jasmine Crockett, Abby Phillip on CNN.
Yeah, Letitia James.
We could name a whole bunch.
We could keep going.
So I just think it comes from the women, from black women, right?
And they pushed on their children, they spread the rhetoric, and they all accept it so much.
That's why they're the strongest supporters of the Democrat Party.
And men, black men who like black women, oh, we have to listen to the women because they love black women.
I think that's another reason why, like, black men who are Republican have white wives, because if all the black women are Democrat and you're a Republican...
And then they have all these things, these labels and things they throw on black Republicans.
You're a sellout, you're a coon, you're this, you're that.
They demonize you.
Why would a woman want to be with you if that's what you're seen as among these people, you know?
Like, to a white woman or a woman who's outside of that and doesn't think that way, she would never view you like that.
She doesn't care.
Oh, she doesn't care.
She would never view you like that.
She doesn't care.
So...
I mean, that's why that is.
That, to me, that's like a theory I've come up with.
It's just, going back to what I was saying earlier in the show about Larry Elder.
If a black person has an idea that conservatives or white people agree with, they say that they're grifting, they're pandering, they're playing into white supremacy.
And it's like, I don't know, like, if there's some overweight 55-year-old white dude who makes $40,000 a year and he's a huge fan of Thomas Sowell— I don't think that demeans Thomas Sowell.
I don't think that means Thomas Sowell is like Candace Owens.
They call her a white supremacist and far right.
I'm like, she's like a multimillionaire with 10 million plus fans.
I'm pretty sure on the hierarchy of like how the world works, Oprah even, it doesn't even need to be Candace Owens.
Yeah, we had him on the show recently, and he said that his first video that went real big was he was on his lunch break, so he was eating fried chicken, and then he said, how many black people want to go back to Africa?
He's like, because I don't!
He's like, I like it here.
And then they claimed that because he was eating fried chicken, he was doing a racist thing where he was attacking black people or whatever.
unidentified
That's crazy.
Yeah.
You ain't gonna get no good fried chicken in Africa, though.
I was in Cameroon for the African Championships like a month ago, and that was my first time leaving America.
And so I've always known, like, people like, because my dad is an immigrant.
He moved here from Ghana.
His parents moved here from Ghana.
So I grew up, like...
I didn't really grow up being taught that white people were against me, that I have no chance, because I wasn't really right.
My parents are from Africa, from Ghana.
So when I went to Cameroon, that was the most life-changing experience I've ever had, because right before we went to Cameroon, we were at the turning point event in Detroit.
So I met Trump, I met all these people, and it's like, wow, I'm experiencing the American dream.
And then I go to Cameroon, and I'm seeing...
Real poverty.
No electricity.
These people are really struggling.
I remember I ran up on a family.
They say I have AirPods in and they're jumping up and down, freaking out because they've never seen AirPods.
I'm like, wow.
That trip changed my life.
I had so much survivor's guilt.
The whole way home, I just felt a horrible feeling.
Sick to my stomach.
I have so much in America.
I'm about to go back to America and have everything.
Your parents are from Africa and they emigrate here.
unidentified
Yeah, so my dad moved here when he was only five years old.
So it was my grandpa.
Like, he one by one.
I think, so my dad has four sisters, and he moved them all one at a time.
And so my grandpa was working at Pizza Hut in the horse stables in Oklahoma.
And he was working two jobs, and he was getting his Ph.D. to be a professor.
at the college that Brandon's people also went to. - Yeah. - Wow. - So when he became a professor there, he started moving them one at a time.
So my dad, from ages, I think when he was born until five or six years old, didn't see his parents.
'Cause they were in America trying to make ends meet.
And they just one at a time brought 'em here, brought 'em here.
And everybody, all my dad's sisters and all their family, they're doctors, they're successful, all of them.
It's just because it shows me how much perspective and what you're taught can affect you, right?
And you see a lot of Nigerians, you see a lot of, like, Iranian, you see a lot of people from other, Vietnamese, they come here and they're successful.
Because they're like, I'm not about to just sit here and let y'all, like, where I came from, it's real struggle and real poverty.
So here where I have a chance in America, I'm not gonna care what y'all say, I'm gonna go get that money.
This is the crazy thing, too, because you've got this...
And it's like, it's woke people from all different backgrounds, saying that America's racist, America's horrible, and I'm like, yo, your family fought to come here, and your grandpa worked really, really hard to be here.
unidentified
That's a spit in the face to them.
Like, you did all this to get me here, and now I'm a complainer.
Our community doesn't see these jobs as a way to make money.
That's what it is, too, especially with the younger people.
I feel like younger black people, with social media and stuff, everybody want to do YouTube or rap or whatever, athlete.
It's like, you can't do these things.
It's like, especially the women, like on both sides, not just black or white, like women in general, young women are going to be like, well, I want somebody with some motion, you know?
So he's a plumber.
He don't want no man with a nine or five.
He make 200K and he make 60, you know?
It's just, I think that's a generational kind of issue, not just a race issue.
I definitely think it's, people want the image too.
So I, There's a story I like to tell from back where I come from, on the south side, and there was a – so this is like a generally mixed-race area for the most part, but we had a dividing line, 47th Street.
If you cross north of 47th, all black south of it, predominantly white, some Hispanic, very few Asian.
But that dividing line was real, and there was animosity based on these two different communities.
But I remember there were a couple of kids in my neighborhood that were selling pot, and then there was this black dude, and he was like, why are you selling pot?
And they were like, I gotta make money.
And he was like, I'm not gonna go work at McDonald's.
He's like, I make way more selling pot.
And this guy, I always remember this because it was such a great story.
He was like, that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
You wanna make money?
I'll tell you to make money.
And here's what I do.
He's like, I look up the venues in Chicago where bands are playing.
And then I see this list.
They got four bands on Friday night, four bands on Saturday night, four bands Thursday or whatever.
These bands that are opening are like 18-year-olds.
So I reach out to them on social media or whatever.
This is back before social media, I think.
I'll hit them up and I say, hey, do you guys have merch?
And they go, no.
And he's like, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to sell t-shirts for your band and I'm going to give you 20%.
And then the bands are like, yes!
Because we don't have merch.
And then he was like, I work two days a week.
I make two grand a week.
Because I go to the store.
I print up a couple hundred shirts.
I go.
They bring all their friends and family to come see their show.
Everybody wants to buy the shirts.
They get money they wouldn't have got before.
I get paid.
You've got to sell pot to do that.
He's like, it's just lazy.
Someone told you to make money and now you're going to go to jail.
What's the point?
He's like, you could sell socks on the highway and make more money than this.
unidentified
Socks.
Yeah, see, that's the thing, though.
People want the easy way out.
Because selling pot is always going to be an option in the black community.
That's one of the first things that come to you.
Not just the black community, though.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Not just the black.
It's going to come to you.
That's going to be the first.
That's one of my first opportunities of money.
Yeah.
But you know, you just know it's repercussions with that.
You know what happens if like – so I imagine some of this is like you're selling on someone else's territory or you owe a debt you didn't pay back and you disrespected them or something.
If you go to like a t-shirt print shop and you say, let me get an order of 100 shirts.
I'm going to beg.
Your bill is going to be $500.
You say, okay, give me the invoice.
I'll pay you by the end of the week.
If you don't pay them, the guy who owns that shop is not going to put a bullet on you.
He's going to come wagging his finger and he's going to hand you a legal demand.
Well, here's the thing about, you know, I mean, pot's becoming largely legal in a lot of places, but the people who, you know, a guy goes to someone and says, here, I'm going to be your supplier, you go sell on the street or whatever.
If that dude doesn't pay him back, he has no court.
There's no recourse.
So this is why you end up with violence.
Because he's like, the only thing you have to do is you fight.
Whereas normal business, that's regular market, not black market, you send them a summons to a small claims court, and it's just like, okay, the $200 has to be paid back.
I could tell you like five, six videos off the top of my head where there's like new ones where they're just showing demons and demonic stuff like it's just normal.
That's weird to me.
A lot of stuff is being normalized actually.
I almost think like being gay is normalized especially in TV and movies like I feel like every new show or Every new show or movie has something gay in it.
Almost.
Always.
In my opinion, I feel like everybody be having to attack on Christianity.
The church has become this—and I don't mean the black church.
There's a church not too far from here, and it says everyone is welcome, and it's got the Progress Pride flag, which goes well beyond LGBTQ. It's got the purple ring in it and everything.
And then you've got—these churches have gone— Woke to the point where it doesn't even look like Christianity anymore.
unidentified
Yeah, see, I think the thing with that is like, okay, as Christians, you know, we're called to love people and this and that.
But at the same time, I feel like you can love someone and show respect to them without agreeing.
I don't agree with this.
No, I don't.
I'm not going to demonize you for it.
I'm going to invite you to church.
Yes, you can go to church, this and that.
But at the same time, you know, like we don't, I don't agree with this and I don't.
And that's what it is.
So that's what I think about that.
I think that's big, sorry.
I was going to say, I feel like, you know, with the trans and the LGBTQ community, I feel like as a Christian, that shows confusion, and I feel like God is not confusion.
So when you keep seeing that, it's just crazy to me.
Again, like Brock said, I don't have to agree with everything people do, but the fact that we don't agree, we don't have to be enemies.
Like, to me, I'm not gay.
I'm straight.
So obviously I don't agree with being gay.
But if you want to be gay, that's your decision.
Whatever people choose to do with their life, as long as it doesn't affect me and we have respect for each other and we in our face, that's cool with me.
Again, I just feel like a lot of people make it seem like if we don't agree, we have to be enemies and we're some sort of bad person.
To me, it's like, look, I don't have to agree with what you say, you don't have to agree with what I say, and we don't have to be enemies.
Like Seamus Coughlin, who does Freedom Tunes back in town, and he comes on Tim Kester all the time, and he's a devout Catholic.
There's a lot of things we don't agree on.
But we're laughing and hanging out every day.
We make jokes, and he's a really good friend of ours.
We don't agree.
But then there's wokeness, and if you question any of the orthodoxy at all, they will attack you.
They will demonize you.
They will say, you're racist.
Get out.
You can't be involved, and all that stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, I think that's a big problem.
I think that, like, we watched a video.
We reacted to it a while back.
It was, like, with these kids, right?
And they were, like, kids of both sides, Trump supporters and Kamala supporters.
Are you talking about on CNN? Yeah, and it was, like, the kids who were, you know, like, Trump supporters, their parents were.
It was, like, they asked them, would your parents let you go to a Kamala supporter's house?
And they were, like, yeah, yeah, you know, like, they would.
And then they asked the Kamala kids, would your parents let you go to a Trump supporter's house?
They were, like, oh, no, never.
Crazy.
And I was, like, but then the people on the left called the people on the right, divisive.
Y'all call us divisive, but then, and it's like, Shane Gillis said this too, he's like, if you can't make an endorsement, we know who you voting for.
I was like, so that's divisive.
I can't even say who I'm voting for.
Or else y'all go, oh my gosh, he's voting for Trump.
He's a da-da-da-da-da.
But y'all say we're divisive.
That doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah.
No, I think that's big.
I think it's also very ironic that the left calls the right divisive, and the left has all these labels.
They come up with all the labels.
They invented it!
The cancel culture, they come up with the labels that shut people up, all these isms, and phobics, and it's all from the left, and it's all used to discredit and divide people.
Isn't it kind of wild to be like, hey, I'm having my graduation.
You can come watch, but we're not going to have a...
Like, we're both graduating right now, but I'm going to go over here with a racial group of people, not my friends.
unidentified
That's absurd.
It's also crazy to me.
It's like...
You're in class with all of these people, and you make friends in class, and y'all grinding, going, struggling together, and when y'all finally made it, you don't want to graduate with them?
Y'all don't want to enjoy that moment together?
Like, when I was in grad school in Louisiana, I was a GA, so I'm the only black GA, so all the other GA's are something else, at least in the business school, for the first year I was there, well, the two years I was there.
So, like, I wouldn't have wanted to graduate without them.
Like, we was in class together, struggling, we doing all this stuff, I'm like, I want to graduate with y'all, y'all my people!
Yeah, it was like the black people are in this dorm, the Asian people are in this dorm, the white people are in this dorm, and I'm like, that's the weirdest thing.
And I know a lot of people are immediately going to be like, that's not what the Civil War was about.
I'm not saying that, but they did have in their Constitution they wanted to enshrine slavery.
That was the principal factor that was causing division in the United States.
And then it's like...
Every step of the way up until the Civil Rights Movement, the Democrats are on the side of some form of segregation.
The Klan members, you know, a lot of people say, like, the Klan was the Democratic Party.
Well, the Klan members were Democrats, you know, say whatever you want.
So the conspiracy theory is, and I think, I don't know if you guys would agree with this.
We probably would.
The Democrats realized...
The negative approach doesn't work.
That if we spend all of our time and energy saying we want these things because, you know, like the Democrats were saying, oh, white people should have their own spaces or something.
At some point they were like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I wonder if a lot of it, like I was saying in the beginning about redlining, that our parents and our grandparents in this country did actually see all the racism.
And like blockbusting is crazy and it still happens.
I wonder if – so in their mindset, their whole life they've been seeing these things.
Now we're younger and the younger generation is just kind of over it to a certain degree.
But it's being kept on life support.
I can't remember whose quote that was.
It might have been Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell.
That racism is being kept on life support by the race hustlers and the grifters and Democrats.
But I think the reason it's able to is because these politicians go to older generations and says, remember all the racism?
It's still here.
We need these policies.
And they agree with it.
And the younger people are like, why can't I graduate with my friend?
I don't understand.
It's like, well, he's black.
He's going to the black graduation.
And you're like, what?
I just want to hang out with my friends, man.
I don't care about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's just crazy, bro, nowadays, bro.
No, it's absolutely crazy out here.
I don't really understand it, like, to me.
Like, I saw there's this thing at Arizona State.
They had, like, a racial, like, floor on the library.
It bums me out because I really did feel like when I was younger, I had friends of all different backgrounds, and I was like, you know, isn't this cool?
Like, there's no racism.
We're friends.
And the funny thing is, one kid called everybody by their racial slur.
And it was a $100 million budget, made $300 million, and that was a smash hit.
Now they do, like, a $100 million Marvel.
It makes a billion, $2 billion.
Yeah.
So, the first Captain America movie, it's like a conservative dream.
It's about a guy who's trying to lie his way into the army to serve his country.
And we didn't get a bunch of videos of conservatives being like, this is the best movie, this is the message we want for our kids.
the second Captain America is where he realizes that the government is corrupt and been infiltrated by evil people who are going to weaponize the power of government and he goes against them another really important message in what it means to be an American it's the revolution of this country the founding doc documents standing up for the people and things like that.
Conservatives didn't come out and be like, what a great message.
And the communists were bad.
Basically, like Winter Soldier was a remnant of the communists.
But then what ends up happening is the woke activists get into Marvel, and you can see it happen right after Infinity War, From Infinity War, after that, they made Captain Marvel.
This flipping of what happened in this decade-long, multi-billion-dollar franchise, and then seemingly within a span of like a year, you can see when the woke leftist activists came in, Thor got fat.
They made the Thor where Jane becomes Thor, and everyone's like, Captain Marvel?
Let me just say this because I love ragging on it.
Captain America.
It's like 2010 or whatever, and they made this movie.
He's a scrawny guy who tries lying his way to join the army because he wants to serve his country desperately.
He jumps on the grenade.
He's a hero.
He's granted powers.
And I'm like, hey, man, that's like a very pro-America message.
Like, serve your country, right?
Captain Marvel's story was she accidentally becomes super powerful with, like, godlike powers.
And then a man, Jude Law, puts an inhibitor on her.
That suppresses her powers, and then he keeps telling her, control your emotions.
The end of the movie for Captain America is he sacrifices himself to defeat Hydra, the Nazis, and he gets frozen and he loses the love of his life.
the end of Captain Marvel is she overcomes the man who is holding her back, embraces her emotions, breaks the inhibitor chip and defeats him.
There's no big grandiose finale.
It's not like she saves the universe.
She literally just beats her commanding officer who's a man telling her to suppress her emotions.
And I'm like, it made a billion dollars because people like Marvel.
But after that, everything started tanking.
So like at the time when this was going on, I was trying to be like, no, no, I like this.
I like Marvel.
And then after a few movies, I was like, I don't want to watch one of these again.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
I loved Marvel until...
I didn't realize...
You broke it down perfectly of when it happened.
Because I didn't...
In my brain, I couldn't realize when it happened.
Because I grew up watching them, you know?
I remember going to the theaters.
And now I'm grown, I'm like...
Damn, they so woke.
When?
But I wasn't political, so I didn't know.
Elon just exposed that, though.
Like, with the X, how Twitter was before, and then how Twitter is now, when he had all the pictures with all the girls, and then the picture with the men.
Yeah.
That's what it is, pretty much.
No, facts.
I'm glad you pointed out how woke Marvel went, because I really loved the first Black Panther.
The first thing is, they could have brought back any one of the strong male characters to take the mantle of the Black Panther.
There were people challenging T'Challa to be the Black Panther, but they wanted the woman to do it.
Just because they did that isn't inherently like the apocalypse.
There's ways to salvage that, but I'll tell you, the problem I have with when woke people take over is that, I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it, Woke people are super racist.
You guys have seen the video of Voter ID, where Tommy Horowitz asks them, and all the college white kids are like, oh, but black people, oh, they can't find the DMV. It's insane, right?
When Captain America meets Sam Wilson, it's this really great scene in the second Captain America where they're jogging, and Captain America keeps running past him.
Yeah, anyway, long story short, because we're getting into movies and stuff, I enjoy the conversation, but I feel like when these young millennials who are super woke and live this world through everything that's got to be race and racialized, it turns to garbage.
And then we all get bummed out on it.
unidentified
I feel like a lot of stuff now focuses on like...
Equality and identity rather than the actual story and substance.
I feel like a lot of movies now fall short of making it an original good movie and it's more focused on identity.
You guys are bigger experts on any of this stuff than these guys in Hollywood.
And you see, like, Oprah interviewing Kamala and stuff like this.
And I get it.
Like, she's a cultural icon.
But there are a lot of people who have zero experience in politics, like the Call Her Daddy podcast.
She has no idea what she's talking about.
I'm not trying to be mean to her.
Like, she's got a great podcast if you're dealing with, like, sex and, you know, gay women who want to hook up with each other.
I'm not trying to be mean.
That's, like, literally she talks about that stuff.
unidentified
I've seen clips.
It's ridiculous.
Is that the one where JoJo was on?
She was on Haktua.
That clip was crazy, man.
No, that was crazy.
I wonder why the left also be trying to push communism on everybody.
That's so weird lately.
Again, I feel like a lot of that stuff is trying to push...
Push it.
Like, normalize it almost.
Like, oh, equality for everyone.
Well, like, I don't believe in that.
No disrespect.
Like, obviously I want people to be successful, but I don't think...
Yeah, you gotta work for it.
You don't work, you don't eat.
That's literally life.
That's literally what everybody learns.
Like, if you don't work, you don't eat.
Now they're trying to make it where, well, you working, but he ain't eating, so you gotta cut off your plate and make sure he can eat too, and I just don't agree with that.
There are a lot of people – we have morbidly obese homeless people.
We've got problems here.
We've solved the hunger problem.
And I don't know if it's fair to say we solved it because nutrition is an issue.
But when you have morbidly obese homeless people, your problem has become a weird problem.
And then they say we should give everybody universal health care, which means your labor and taxes should be taken automatically so you can pay the health care bills of everybody.
But you guys are athletes.
Eat right.
You train hard every day.
Why are you paying the medical bills for somebody who wants to lay on a couch all day and just eat pizza and nachos and not exercise?
Do you start to ask questions about, like, hey, wait a minute, they just gave a billion dollars to Ukraine and Taiwan and Israel and we got a border crisis?
unidentified
It's gradual.
It was definitely gradual.
I think the more and more of the stuff we started ingesting...
At first, I would say...
We were kind of nervous to be like, uh, we're out.
We're conservatives.
We're, like, openly.
Like, I mean, we were finding our identity in it a little bit, you know?
And when you're finding your identity in something, you start to realize, like, there's going to be a lot of pushback and scrutiny on the outside of it.
But the more and more we started to learn and get comfortable and, like, we could watch the source without watching, like, Officer Tatum and we could have our own discussions.
I think once we got to that point...
Yeah.
Like, where we weren't watching Benny Johnson and taking his word for it.
We were watching it on our own and taking our word for it.
I think once we got to that point, we were like, look, man, this is what it is.
Like, I'll put the MAGA hat on.
You know what's crazy that you said that about, you know, the Medicare or whatever Kamala calls it, but She says that so much, and it's just like, now I think that's a woke stance now that you just said that.
I got tired of her saying that so much, but now that you just said that, yeah, people should just work hard.
Now, what's crazy to me is that we funding all these wars and then allow all the people that's impacted by them wars to come through our border and then on top of it, they're trying to tell us to get rid of our guns.
That's crazy to me.
That's the most crazy.
You know, what's the craziest thing to be is...
Illegal immigrants in New York and Chicago.
Free housing.
Free healthcare.
Food card.
What was it?
What was it?
The refundable card or whatever.
Basically the magic card that never runs out of money.
You've got black people being like, you keep telling us there's no money for reparations, and then you gave all this money to people who don't even live here to buy houses, to get apartments, to pay their bills.
Dio, in Chicago, the black community had activists literally saying, we are being replaced.
The issue I take with reparations is that, you know, maybe like back in the day, if they promised 40 acres and a mule, you should have done it.
But now it's like, dude, there's going to be a white dude who's like, great-great-great-grandmother's black, but he's white as they come, and he's going to get reparations?
Like, I don't think that works for anybody.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's just not feasible at all.
No, it just doesn't make sense logically.
I mean, we're so far removed from slavery in America, and it's become so diverse with who lives in America.
So there was this campaign that went viral several years ago, like liberals were posting, where it showed like a black mom walking, sitting down her son or like a black dad coming and talking to their kid.
And they were like, the talk is when the parent finally tells their kid that the police will kill you.
And if you get pulled over, you have to do these things.
And the idea was that among these uppity liberal white people, they've never experienced the talk.
And it's like black people in America have to have the talk because the police may kill or harm their children.
And it was wild because, like, every poor person in this country regardless of race was like, what do you mean?
They say, the talk is a colloquial expression for our conversation black parents in the United States feel compelled to have with their children and teenagers about the dangers they face due to racism, unjust treatment from authority figures.
Okay, so maybe the talk that I had is not the same thing.
Maybe black parents are literally talking a lot more.
But the way it was depicted and explained, I was like, I feel like everybody I knew on the South Side of Chicago had this conversation with their kids.
Like my friends had their parents talk to them about it.
The talk has been described as an example of preparation for bias.
It includes pulling your vehicle over right away, keeping your hands visible on the steering wheel, not making sudden moves, not reaching for items, being as polite as possible, yes, sir, officer, not arguing even if you're right.
The perception of a need for these behaviors is described as racialized legal cynicism.
Bro, I don't care what your race is.
If you don't pull over for a cop, you're going to jail.
If you go to a court and you are in front of a jury in New Jersey and you say, the man broke into my house, threatening to kill me and harm my family, so I shot him, the prosecutor is going to say, why didn't you run away?
And you say, where do I run to?
And then the response was, what you are telling the jury is, you would rather kill a man than stand outside barefoot.
And the jury's going to convict you.
They're going to be like, wow.
unidentified
That sounds unreal.
New Jersey's super liberal.
Are you for real?
Sounds like a crappy place to live.
So somebody just steal your car, steal everything.
Look, in states like that, it is incumbent upon the victim...
To avoid in all circumstances anything that escalates harm, and to assume you're going to be safe.
This is a crazy thing.
In West Virginia, there's reasonable issues, right?
If a guy is walking on, let's say you've got a big property and it's 50 acres, and a guy is walking on it, you can't just shoot.
That's crazy.
If the guy is waving a weapon around, you can defend yourself because a guy is trespassing on my property with a weapon.
I have a reasonable fear of harm.
It's a sad tragedy, especially if it was an accident or whatever happened, but it's not you, the victim's fault, if you have to make a difficult decision.
In places like New Jersey and Maryland, nah, it's the other way around.
You as the victim have to be aware and have to run away and hide.
Dad, you can't live that way.
unidentified
So that's why the liberals were mad at Trump probably for that then.
Well, remember we saw that video in California, the guy, like, we watched the Ozo reaction we did, and, like, a guy had his, like, you show, I think we see him walk into the house with his family.
Like, it was, like, his wife and, like, a young daughter, I think.
Oh, yeah, in L.A. As soon as they get in the house, two dudes come behind him and, like, try to run up on him, and he shoots at him, both of them.
They took his gun.
The state took his gun.
I was like, what?
At least he didn't get charged because they had everything on camera and it was like, clearly.
But, I mean, if there was no camera in California and they took the gun, what could have...
It's not common sense, bro.
It's not at all.
Let's just let my family die.
You're allowed to have a gun at your home in California and this man used the gun in his home to defend himself against armed robbers and they took his concealed carry away.
Not common sense.
That's insane to me.
So imagine that, taking my gun, opening the border, defunding the police all at the same time.
I feel like they gotta hell marry in their best pocket.
It's definitely a possibility.
I think that they can't, again, not in the same way, unless they come up with a new method, because everybody's aware of it, I think.
COVID was the best time to do it, so that was a great time.
I ain't gonna lie.
When we sit here and we kind of figure out what the plans were of the Democratic Party, oftentimes, and when we say this, we're not talking about all Democrats, obviously.
It's like the far radical ones.
They come up with some smart-ass ideas to, like, get what they want.
Like, the COVID, like, tricking black people with the music and all these things.
Like, damn!
See, that was a smart plan.
The only reason we like this is because of YouTube, though.
Because we can sit there, we can get paid to sit there and really dissect this.
My mother, on the other hand, she can't sit there and dissect it.
So when I come to her, it blows her mind when I'm saying it because she's starting to realize.
No one will argue with me on the other side anymore.
But will you know this and that?
They'll say, this and that happened.
Show me.
You can't.
Someone just told you that that happened and you can't show it to me.
You see it happen in real time and you're like, this informs my opinion.
These other people don't watch it, have no idea what's going on.
To them, the only explanation is you're grifting for money.
unidentified
It's crazy because what he said, we have time to sit and research this stuff, watch this stuff.
We spent at least a year and a half now really Doing this every single day, literally every day.
And like you said, the normal average person who has to go to work and do all this other stuff, they don't have time to do what we do.
So they're getting their news and information from TV, from the mainstream media.
They play telephone.
Yeah.
And they're being conditioned and told what to think.
This is my problem with the mainstream media on all platforms.
They'll bring up a news topic and then they'll break it down and give you their opinion and tell you that's what you're supposed to think.
This is what you're supposed to get from this.
And it's like an opinion.
I'm like, well, that's what you think from that.
This could be interpreted different ways based on How you look at it.
The problem is the moderator, to me, though.
Because, I mean, everybody's really supposed to have their own opinion.
But when the moderator gets involved and make it seem like a person's wrong with Abby Phillip on CNN, it's like, well, I mean, Scott, I mean, that's not right.
I mean, that's obviously debunked.
Then another person, a regular citizen, is going to be like, well, then Abby's right.
So it's like at a certain point, you're kind of like, how come these people who are eating and lying around and not working want my money?
It's like every day I wake up.
So for me, we've got the skate park in here.
I take it very seriously, and it's not because I'm going to win a competition or because I'm going to get a scholarship.
It's because I want to improve and be better than myself yesterday.
So this morning, like I do this every day.
My breakfast is a two-egg omelet with goat cheese and avocado and a protein shake.
And so, like, tracking macros and stuff like that.
And then I try to avoid bad foods.
But to be honest, you know, Allison was visiting family.
So this week, it was cheese off of pizzas.
I don't eat the bread.
And wings.
When cheese is around, I eat better.
But...
Every day I'm paying attention and I'm reading and researching and I'm like, how can I be better than I was?
If you have that mentality, you're going to start looking at what's going on in the world and you're going to say, yeah, that doesn't make sense.
This does.
It doesn't matter what your race is.
So it's like when I hear you guys are like athletes at school, like you're in school, you're learning, you're getting your master's, whatever, you're running track.
I'm like, dude, no matter what happens, these people are turning to the right.
Meritocracy and hard work.
unidentified
Definitely.
I agree with that too.
And I think sports has like, that's why I'm so big on sports, especially for young men, because it's like, it teaches you structure.
It teaches you, okay, I have to be here at this time.
If I don't, this will happen.
And it gives you a sense of belonging, especially like for black men, because that's why I think a lot of, you know, black men join games, because it's like, they don't have a sense of belonging.
So I'm with him, these are the guys, I'm with the crew, da-da-da, this is what we do.
But if you can get that same feeling...
From football, like, especially, you know, as a man, you have testosterone.
You know, there's times where you gotta get aggressive, you know?
It's like, you want to get aggressive.
Like, it's a natural feeling in all men.
So you have no outlet towards that, and then you also don't have a male role model telling you, hey, you can't do it in this way.
Like, they telling you, dude, you can do it in this way, like in sports or boxing or whatever.
And so that gets released into the wrong way.
Yeah.
No, that might be, actually.
That was a great analogy.
That's big.
If we think about that girl that said, being on time was white supremacy, somebody An athlete would never think like that.
Hell no!
Because we know we have to be there to be great on time.
I don't know enough about football, but I can tell you we don't see these woke people complaining about the domination of black people in the NBA. Everybody's fine with it.
It's great.
We love sports.
People love basketball.
There's no conservative or liberal who's complaining about the racial component of the sport.
But it's the other way around in some industry, Hollywood or whatever, they throw a fit.
It's got to be people.
unidentified
They do that with quarterbacks a lot.
Yeah, they do, they do.
But that's why I agree with the, like, whenever we were thinking about affirmative action, and we were kind of breaking that down, and I was really trying to like, okay, do I agree or do I disagree?
I disagree.
When they put it in sports, like, the knowledge is like, you know, we don't need, the best players will play.
And like, the schools, like, okay, Harvard is 99% Asian because they like school?
Well, I'll say it again as I wrap up for my final thoughts is like, my mom, you know, I mentioned I think on the members only that we're having you guys on and she immediately texted me like, I watch them all the time.
I'm such a big fan.
And then she sent me your ACDC video and she's like, look, watch this video, watch this video.
