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July 19, 2024 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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The Culture War #73 Trump Assassination BREAKING Woke TV w/The Quartering

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tim pool
What up, everybody?
Welcome to the Culture War podcast.
Oh man, it's been such a wild week.
I'm really excited to have a show where we just talk about TV shows and why they suck and how they could be better.
Last night, we saw The Boys season four finale.
And you know what's interesting is that it's looking like the Trump assassination attempt has caused an immediate shift.
What we know right now is definitively The Boys on Amazon Prime, a superhero show for guys that don't know, And they're basically mocking Trump and MAGA.
They had to put a disclaimer up.
But I'm wondering if they've actually made edits to the show because of the assassination attempt.
Now, there is a fear in liberal culture.
I mean, you look at Kyle Gass, Tenacious D. They're losing.
All their show's canceled.
Rumors are their insurance company's canceled.
You can't joke about this anymore.
So I'm wondering how this impact, or how this attempt on Trump's life is going to dramatically impact all of these different shows, and I think it absolutely will.
It's going to change the writing, it's going to change their structure, because you see what happens when Kyle Gass makes a joke!
They shut you down.
And so how are these other woke shows going to be able to operate?
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, we've got just the general idea around these anti-woke shows.
Of course, there was the new norm.
Mr. Burcham was the Daily Wire's attempt.
And we're going to talk about why they suck.
I mean, no disrespect, but why everybody dislikes this conservative attempt at making anti-woke comedy.
Today, to join us and talk about this is the expert on all things culture.
We have Jeremy from The Quartering.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hey, welcome.
Glad to be here.
So early in the morning after a long night last night.
This is exactly where I want to be, not back in bed.
tim pool
Luke's hanging out.
unidentified
You know, sleep deprivation is a form of torture, Tim.
This is Luke Rudowsky here, professional poop poster.
I professionally poop the post on youtube.com forward slash we are change.
tim pool
And Sean Fraser's hanging out.
unidentified
Hey guys, Sean Frasek with Tenet Media, also started the Myth & Form Twitter account.
Glad to be here guys, it's gonna be a fun one.
tim pool
So, let's talk about The Boys first, because spoiler alerts if you didn't watch the season.
Luke's so mad because he hasn't watched any of the episodes.
unidentified
The latest ones, I watched all the new seasons.
tim pool
You've seen 1, 2, and 3?
Yeah.
Okay, this show started off as a really great idea of let's make superheroes seem realistic, And then the guy who's basically Superman is a narcissist and he got an ego and Aquaman basically rapes a chick, you know.
And now it's just basically the superheroes are Trump supporters and Trump, like Trump is Superman, but he wants milk.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You just brought that scene back up into my mind.
He doesn't just want milk, Tim.
Where does he want his milk from?
tim pool
From mommy milkers.
unidentified
From the source.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's not going to the grocery store and buying milk.
unidentified
But it's so over the top!
Well, there's a lore in the right-wing circles for boob milk, by the way.
Just a heads up.
Yeah, it's, you know, the concept is actually really good because the... Have you tried it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
My wife got really mad at me.
tim pool
People who bodybuilders swear by it.
unidentified
Yes, I know.
So there's a trope to this that is sort of realistic.
I meant the concept.
tim pool
What are you saying?
unidentified
I'm just saying!
Luke knows a little too much about this subject.
I meant as far as the more realistic superheroes.
There actually is a lot of creativity in the superheroes.
This is how they would behave in the real world, right?
They would behave badly, power corrupts, all that stuff.
Yeah, it's unfortunate to see him kind of delve into the political... Well, the first season's fascinating because it gives you kind of a corporate Disney perspective how they would handle the situation and just how absolutely cold they are to actual real things and just how profit motivated they are, which is how a lot of American industries are absolutely run.
Now, that's a fair, I think, criticism to make, but then when you kind of overtly Try to blame one political side for all of that while you know the other side is just as culpable here.
That's when it becomes kind of disingenuous and that's when it kind of brings the hallmarkers.
That one scene specifically that comes to my mind that ended my journey and I hope the viewing audience will also get spoiler alert warning so I could put on my earmuffs.
But the one scene that I was left off of on The Boys was when the Donald Trump character, Homelander, literally shot a guy on Fifth Avenue and everyone applauded.
Which is something that Donald Trump specifically said beforehand, saying, you know, I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and my fans will still kind of support me and cheer for me.
They literally played it out.
And I was like, wow, there's so many layers to this propaganda.
tim pool
The guy threw a water bottle at his son.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And he blasted him with laser eyes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Had it coming.
tim pool
Well, and so, uh, well, let's do this.
Let's talk about the latest season.
I do want to point out, like, we just totally glossed over this, I mean, the largest IT crash in history has just happened.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I thought we were gonna, yeah, we had to talk about that.
unidentified
I was gonna bring it up.
tim pool
Yeah, just to mention, like, airlines are completely shut down, credit cards don't work, I had to buy my coffee with cash, which was very strange, and, you know, it is what it is.
unidentified
It's mostly corporate computers hit all over the world.
A lot of people are saying that this is related to CrowdStrike, and this is having severe impacts on travel and a lot of businesses.
And someone just made the point that a lot of people will have to not just, you know, reboot their entire computers, but carry out a kind of complicated process in doing so.
So this is going to have tremendous economic effects on all the businesses, which are going to be vast and severe.
tim pool
And now that we've gotten through our responsibility and talking about things that matter, let's go back to talking about things that matter a lot less.
unidentified
Boobie milk.
I was going to say though, you might want to keep cash in your wallet.
That's all I'm saying.
Maybe the crypto thing isn't going to work out.
tim pool
I hate this, Tim.
I hate it.
The boys season four finale makes one big change after Trump assassination attempt.
I don't believe it.
I think they made an I think they made more changes than this.
What Forbes is saying is that after someone tried to kill Donald Trump, they put a viewer discretion is advised.
This episode contains scenes of fictional political violence.
Any similarity similarities to recent events are completely coincidental and unintentional.
Prime Video, Amazon, MGM Studios, Sony Pictures, television and the producers of the boys oppose in the strongest terms real world violence of any kind.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I hate this, Tim.
unidentified
I hate it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's too far.
It's like they're admitting, right?
It's like they're saying, oh man, yeah, we really do have power.
It's a weird kind of admission.
But now this is like, give me a break.
You guys weren't all in Hollywood.
Disappointed he missed.
tim pool
I'm just saying, you know, we know who you are. - For 10 years, and oh boy, I could, I don't wanna swear, I'm gonna try to avoid swearing.
I could give an F.
These people online being like, but you've criticized, so you get the Krasnsteins, they're like, they're super mad at me because I keep pointing out how the feds rated them for the- - They did have some issues. - Well, they were like, I don't know, they're running a website that had scam ads or something, and they got really mad, and he's like, "Look how many times Tim Pool has said Civil War." He's a hypocrite because he's saying we call for violence and then he says this and I was like...
All of those posts they pulled up over five years of me saying things like Civil War.
First of all, a couple of them are jokes.
Like one was Civil War II pedophiles versus Nazis, which is literally a joke.
I don't think both sides are literally just storming at each other.
But they're all reactions to the left engaging in violence.
So the left says something like, we're going to arrest our political opponents, put them in prison, we're putting people in solitary confinement.
And I was like, y'all are pushing for Civil War.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But you weren't glorifying it either.
It's like, when you reference it, you're talking about, hey, this is a potential outcome because things are boiling over.
When you see it glorified, and there's a certain amount of clout that comes along with that.
We've seen certain people online who have built their name off of unhinged rhetoric like this, so there's a social currency to it.
That's very different than you just being like, I don't know, man.
Civil war's coming.
tim pool
Specifically, one of the posts is like, they have just moved on to the phase to arresting the lawyers of their political rivals.
Now they've moved on to the arresting the frontrunner for the presidency.
Now we're on to the point where someone just tried to kill the man.
And my point is this.
Every step of the way, for ten years, everyone on whatever side this is, whatever you want to call it, has been saying no violence, violence bad, don't advocate for violence on social media, don't censor people, don't advocate for violence.
They've been doing these things the whole time with the Covington kids, posting the wood chipper, saying they want to punch the kid in the face, all of this stuff, and for a show like The Boys, To now be like, hey, you know, we don't care.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Too late.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They've pushed this stuff.
So Kyle Gass, tenacious D, thinks he can go on stage and make this joke.
And Jack Black says, I was blindsided.
Yet he laughs maniacally when Kyle Gass says it.
It was only when their insurance, this is the rumor, the rumor is their insurance company said, we will not insure any of your shows because you just basically called for this.
You literally said, do it again and win.
We're not going to cover this.
We can't afford it.
Well, now their shows are done.
unidentified
Well, the irony with the boys, too, is I think they're actually setting up a civil war.
I mean, if you... Spoiler alert, Luke.
It kind of seems like that's where they're trending.
And if you look at the, you know, one of the movies that made the biggest noises last year was the Civil War movie.
tim pool
And it wasn't even a Civil War movie.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
But the point I'm making, it's not like, you know, Hollywood isn't also kind of That's the funny thing is they're like, Tim Pool said Civil War, and I'm like, y'all made a movie.
Exactly.
Literally called Civil War, Americans vs. Americans.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, that movie was a road trip film.
That was one of the best movies I've ever seen.
And I recommend everybody watch it.
The story sucks.
You'll be bored.
But boy, did they capture the depravity of corporate journalists so well.
Did you see it, Jeremy?
The journalists are, when people die, they laugh and they smile.
At the end, when the main character- Spoiler alert.
The main character gets shot.
The- So, okay.
End of the movie.
Young girl who wants to be a journalist jumps into the line of fire to get the photo.
Main character runs up and shoves her out of the way, takes a bullet in the back.
As she falls to the ground, instead of rendering aid, her best friend steps over her body to go into the room to get the shot, and the young girl just takes a picture of her dead body.
That absolutely captured the depravity of these vultures, who quite literally call themselves vultures.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, that was a very powerful scene.
And if you're in the world where they're talking about this stuff or you're reading it every day, it's hard to not get desensitized.
But then even that, when you see it, you're like, yeah, that's probably what would happen.
They'd be like, think of the clicks.
unidentified
And that was one of the hottest filmmakers or producers, was it 824?
Yeah.
tim pool
But the movie wasn't even about Civil War.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No.
tim pool
It was like a civil war was happening and it's about journalists who glorify death and murder.
unidentified
Yeah, but fair, but most people aren't going to see the movie and they know it's a civil war movie, Americans versus Americans.
But just everyone talking about it is a big deal as well when it comes to like predictive programming and when it comes to, of course, the scenes that are going to be reliving in people's own minds with what they think about when it comes to those kind of larger notions of conversations started by it.
I think it's also not a coincidence that for, you know, many years before this kind of larger geopolitical conundrum with Russia that we're facing, that a lot of the villains in Hollywood movies were Russian.
That we had this whole Russian collusion story.
Yeah, they were Middle Eastern, now they're Russian, and I'm like, oh, okay, hold on, we're probably going to go to war with Russia, as of course the CIA impacts Hollywood directly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They'll be Chinese soon.
unidentified
I don't know.
They're the ones making it.
They're the ones paying for it.
They're the ones buying the politicians and they're the society that the globalists want everyone to kind of live in.
tim pool
Let me show you guys this clip.
Let's play this clip.
You guys ready?
25 seconds.
unidentified
This is Commander Gilmore, U.S.
Strategic Command, and General Borshevsky, Russian Intelligence.
tim pool
This is Austin Powers.
What is this, 1999?
unidentified
Russian Intelligence?
Are you mad?
A lot's happened since you were frozen.
The Cold War's over.
Well, finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh?
Austin, we won.
Oh, groovy, smashing, yay capitalism!
tim pool
But that's what Luke's basically pointing out.
In 99, the Cold War is over, but all of the movies always had the bad guys were Russians.
And the funny thing is, before that, Disney movies had the bad guys were British.
unidentified
Well, and the bad guys won't be Chinese because China's paying a lot of money to actually, you know, China literally gets rid of flags from Taiwan from major American movies.
They're not going to be the bad guys anytime soon.
Right, right.
They pay too much money right now to Hollywood.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Exactly.
It depends who's making it.
unidentified
I mean, you look at... I think South Park's depiction of China and Disney, I think, are perfect representations of what we were just saying.
Sorry, Jeremy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
I honestly think you might see that change because the budgets are... The people I talk to in Hollywood are talking about, really, the day of the $400 million movie is coming to an end.
unidentified
No.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The market literally can't support it unless it's a cultural phenomenon, and you can't produce that.
You can't do the Joker for an $80 million budget and make a billion.
You can't predict that.
And what used to be predictable, Marvel, Has four or five hundred million dollar budgets, and the economy can't support it anymore.
People have been so turned off by mainstream press and movies, people are just like, I'll stream it later.
I'm not paying $80 to go to the movie theater and get politics crammed down my throat.
tim pool
Let's talk about The Boys a little bit, so spoiler alert for the season finale.
My theory is that they edited the season finale at the last minute because of the assassination attempt.
For those that have been watching The Boys, it's devolved into this Absurdist.
Hey, remember when the news said January 6th?
He's a superhero.
That's all they're doing.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They literally directly referenced, um, um, what was it?
Some, some political, uh, some guy in three episodes ago.
I can't forget his name, but it was like, not, it was just directly on those.
They mentioned him by name.
I'm trying to think.
tim pool
They mentioned Alex Jones in the background of one episode.
unidentified
Alex Jones right before the human centipede scene.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I think it was somebody from J6.
I'd have to go back or maybe check.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right.
And then, uh, uh, in the season finale, They literally have a January 6th scene.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's not like, there's no one starting with the Capitol or anything, but they're like, today's January 6th.
It's like, oh geez.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's the stuff though, right?
That's what rips you out of the immersion.
And they don't understand that.
Like people would always, in my comments, just be like, yeah, you like the X-Men, right?
That was political too.
I'm like, yeah.
Can you remember any long on the nose political statements that they made during X-Men?
No, they were making a broader point about, you know, certain things at times, but now they've gotten lazy.
If you look at the boys, I think it should be a rare compliment for me is that you have a show where critics and fans for three seasons agreed that it was good.
tim pool
I mean, at least... Let's talk about the X-Men.
The political element of it was added decades later.
The civil rights movement was decades before the writers decided to create this humans versus mutants element of civil rights.
And so even when you look at the more modern context of X-Men, When you have Magneto and the Brotherhood and all the stuff in the late 90s, 2000s movie, civil rights was 50 years before that, 40 years before that.
What they're doing right now is they're like, on the news last night, Donald Trump did this thing and they have a character do it and I'm like, bro, we get it, okay?
unidentified
I will say the new Wolverine Deadpool, probably not going to be political, more of a money grab.
It should be.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's what I want.
unidentified
That's what I want.
That's fine.
I'll take the money.
Just give it to me.
tim pool
It's a money grab.
unidentified
It still has to be good though.
tim pool
In the trailer they have Deadpool, Ryan Reynolds say, someone's like, it's Wolverine.
It's like, that's right, Disney brought him back and they're gonna make him do this until he's 90.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's still Hugh Jackman.
Yeah, it's crazy.
He was in the first X-Men.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Iconic yellow suit, too.
I can't wait.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that we'll see if they can recover, but I think we're turning things around.
So, this is the point I wanted to make about the boys' season finale.
I think we may be looking at a point where the assassination attempt was an inflection point.
The example being Kyle Gass saying don't miss Trump next time as a joke.
Jack Black laughing his ass off.
The crowd laughing and then all of a sudden they're gone.
They are out of mainstream culture.
They have lost their shows.
He's saying the band is basically on hiatus.
No new future endeavors.
And the question is how that happens, even though Kyle Gass profoundly apologized.
The rumor is, of course, their insurance companies are like, we literally don't care.
We ain't gonna go anywhere near this.
The fear is that when you encourage that, a crazy person shows up to a venue and does something, when they celebrate an assassination, the fear is someone's gonna retaliate against them.
And so with no insurance, no venue, no show, you're gone.
So now we look at the boys.
There's spoiler alerts to a certain degree.
The ending scene, it's the weirdest shit.
And it could just be that the show is trash and has been falling apart, but the last 15 minutes seems more like a montage recap than an actual show breaking down a story.
So if you ever watch a recap, it's like it's just jumping from bit to bit.
That's basically what happens.
So again, spoiler.
Uh, they're meeting up to talk about Homelander being a problem.
There's no conflict with Homelander.
They don't fight with Homelander.
All of a sudden, just blink!
Billy Butcher explodes Victoria Newland, and I'm like, wait.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Where's the plot?
Like, what is this?
And then he leaves.
He walks in, kills her, and leaves.
And I'm like, was that a reshoot?
unidentified
Well, and the funny thing is the scene before that, so for those that don't know, you have the two factions, Seth Rogen made MAGA the Nazi Justice League, and then they want to kill, you know, the good guy Antifa, right?
So yeah, the Antifa and MAGA, right?
And it's funny, like the scene before that, the Antifa group comes together and like, violence isn't the answer.
We're going to choose forgiveness, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
They made this big scene about like, you know, turning the other cheek and stuff.
Totally real, right?
Right, right.
While the MAGA guys are going around killing people in their building.
So it's like really the stark difference between...
tim pool
Was it like two or three episodes ago where the Antifa and MAGA are fighting?
It's Starlighters and Homelanders.
And then the dead bodies are found on the Antifa side.
And they're like, actually it was the MAGA guys who did it and staged it.
unidentified
That's right, yeah.
They had the speedster go in and zoom the bodies in.
tim pool
I wonder if... I don't think they did reshoots because this was probably filmed a year ago.
Probably not a year ago, though.
Maybe like five months ago or something.
So there's no way they got all the actors together.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They couldn't have refilmed it since Saturday.
tim pool
But it does look like they can edit it.
So, when Newland dies, you don't actually see her, it's CGI.
She's floating in the air in CGI, and then you see tentacles from below rip her in half.
And I'm like, uh, but she's invincible.
unidentified
Correct, and that was the thing, she was invincible.
tim pool
She's invincible, and she has a plot which never resolves.
She just is dead instantly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If that same thing happened to Deadpool, for example, remember when he gets ripped apart, he just regrows.
The fact that she's just dead does not track with invincibility at all.
tim pool
Well, okay, so perhaps the simple solution is the show just sucks, which I think we can agree on.
jeremy thequartering hambly
To be fair, this season has been very bad, in comparison to 2 and 3.
unidentified
Yeah, it's been very, very, very overtly political, but also, too, they have to make MAGA the bad guys, and this was the perfect way to do it, you know, and now their goal is to go and round up Antifa and arrest them and put them in the gulags, right?
tim pool
Yeah, and so, but here's what I'm really interested in.
So, nobody saw the assassination attempt coming in this degree.
I mean, obviously, Tucker Carlson, everyone's been warning, but did we really know or think this is what things would look like?
I think they're in trouble with this show because how are they now going to have a show, have another season next year?
Trump's going to win.
The media is going to be like, yes, Trump's the good, like they're not going to say he's a good guy, but the culture is shifting.
Kyle, like Tenacious D getting their entire careers blown up because they said this thing.
How is the boy is going to try and maintain that line when they've become the bad guys in the public view?
unidentified
I was going to say, I just don't think they care.
You know, I think Seth Rogen wrote it exactly how he wants it, and you know, I think they're leading up to the Summer of Love 2, just like kind of how we are if Trump wins, I think.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't think you'll have the Summer of Love 2 if Trump wins.
unidentified
I think it's going to be a Summer of Love 2.0.
tim pool
I do, because Trump did not invoke the Insurrection Act.
He's not the dictator they claim he is.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying I think he'll be fine.
tim pool
They're gonna riot and send in the troops.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh that way, that way.
tim pool
The show ends, the final scene is with the police and superheroes arresting the Antifa people.
unidentified
The good Antifa people.
The good guys.
tim pool
It is funny though how they make the superheroes the bad guys.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How do you think, from a 30,000 foot view, there was very clearly a memo That went out.
I don't know what that looks like.
You know, like, hey, this is suddenly not okay.
unidentified
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
To me, it's so weird because Hollywood's been fine, essentially fantasizing about this for years.
And then you say Kyle Gass was the litmus test.
I mean, look at the Kathy Griffin thing.
I mean, sure, she got a visit from Secret Service, but nobody canceled her.
tim pool
No one actually tried.
No one took a shot at the president, you know what I mean?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, but I mean like Snoop Dogg had a video, right, where they, I think they... Yeah, he points a gun at Trump's head, pulls the trigger, and then a flag comes out saying, bang.
So you have that, right?
So then the thing happens, and then it's like, Hollywood's just like, I just wonder, Hollywood just didn't suddenly grow.
Insurance broke.
Right, I mean, it has to be money.
tim pool
It's insurance companies.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They didn't just suddenly get a conscience.
tim pool
Insurance companies...
They have to insure all events, right?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Funding polls maybe too?
unidentified
As I say, advertisers as well, yeah.
tim pool
We did a show last night, right?
And so we have a venue, we have insurance.
You can't get insurance, you can't get a venue.
So, they make these shows, they do these things, they make these jokes, and some- like Kathy Griffin did get fired for that.
CNN cut her contract.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You're right, she did lose her job there.
Right, and so- She only did like the- New Year's Eve thing, I think.
tim pool
But she lost her mind.
She was like, no, I was making a joke.
But clearly there has been a line and they haven't cared too much.
I think what happens now is it's all fine and dandy until someone actually pulls the trigger and the insurance companies are saying, OK guys, We don't want to lose money here, so none of this anymore.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree with that too, and you know, the dollars are definitely important, but if you look at the last season of the boys here on Amazon, it's down to a three and a half star rating.
It's so trash.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But that's because people are like review-brigading them.
It's always been political, but people are going and they're saying it's on the nose now.
tim pool
That's true.
The show is just getting worse because it's on the nose.
Look, the first couple of seasons they had something good, and then Seth Rogen was like, I can take a dump on this.
And now they're basically, you know what they should do?
I got an idea.
Seth, if you can hear this, I hope someone sends you this clip.
Have Homelander walk up to the camera.
for the first episode of the next season and just have the camera pointed at him and he should go i'm donald trump and antifa are actually the good guys but i'm evil so i'm going to hurt good people and then have him just give us give a soliloquy of all of your political views and that'll be the whole episode and then we never have to watch it again get it over with yeah yeah uh he probably he honestly doesn't care making a dvd bonus actually they don't make dvds anymore about it If you look at his latest projects, I mean, they just re-released Sausage Party.
unidentified
The first scene is an orgy scene, of course.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's a standalone TV show.
Wait, what?
tim pool
They made a Sausage Party?
unidentified
It's like an actual television show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Only movie I ever walked out of, ever.
tim pool
I walked out of The Last Jedi.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's fair, that deserves it too.
I walked out, I was like, this is degenerate, it's stupid, and it's not even funny, who is this for?
And then they gave them, who knows how much money, because Amazon owes them.
tim pool
I take that back, I didn't walk out of The Last Jedi.
I wanted to, but I felt like I should actually see it so that I could rag on it more.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
Sausage Party, I really did.
Halfway through, I was like, oh, it's just fruit and animals having sex and all that stuff.
This is not a movie.
unidentified
But if you look at the one he did with Mindy Kaling for HBO.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's awful too.
unidentified
I mean, that was just as bad.
Which one was that one?
Uh, what was that Seth?
It was a Seth Rogen Christmas special that got, like, completely... Yeah, Sarah Silverman.
It was, like, super woke.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He said everyone who didn't like it was a Nazi.
unidentified
If you look it up, Tim, I'm sure it has, like, a one-star rating.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Dude, Santa Inc.
unidentified
Yeah, Santa Inc., that's right.
tim pool
What's up with that Scooby-Doo?
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's Mindy Kaling too, yeah.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
And they were like, they made Shaggy a black dude.
Of course.
unidentified
Well, Mindy Kaling, yeah, they did that with, what was that latest show that was based on Scooby Doo, what was it called, where Mindy was the main character.
Velma.
They got rid of the ginger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They got rid of the ginger.
tim pool
Look at this, look at this.
This is an old meme, but Elon Musk posted this.
So, uh, yo, this is actually kind of wild if you look at it.
All of the comic book ginger characters have been replaced by, like, mostly black.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're missing the Little Mermaid.
Oh, no, there it is.
Okay, yeah.
The Little Mermaid's more psychotic, yeah.
tim pool
I gotta, I gotta be honest, like, yo, this is kind of creepy, actually.
Like, they've legitimately taken all of these ginger characters and race swapped them to not be g- Do they really hate redheads or something?
unidentified
I don't know.
They're the real minority that's really getting discriminated against.
That's true.
They're really mutants, right?
Yeah, gingers are mutants.
tim pool
April O'Neil?
unidentified
They say they don't have souls.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They made April O'Neil a fat black girl now.
They didn't just make her black, they made her fat too.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
But why Gingers?
I actually don't really care too much when a character like Gordon, they made Gordon Black.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I thought he did good.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't care.
Look, we're playing make-believe.
I don't care.
But why Gingers?
Why do they really hate redheads?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It can't be a coincidence.
unidentified
The funnier thing, though, it's like you have black heroes, you have black characters that could be propped up.
And instead it's like you're you're shoehorning this.
And, you know, if people point it out, it's like, oh, then they're the racist.
It's like, no, like there's also something like the purity of some stories.
tim pool
Like, I think if it's If there's like a historical figure, and you're gonna make a show, like Anne Boleyn, who's black, maybe not, you have a black actress play a historical figure, if it's gonna be like Gordon, like, I look at this, and what's shocking about this is I don't actually care at an individual level, like, you know, Wally, what's his fa- Wally West, they had a black character play him even though he's a ginger, And I'm like, oh, I don't really care.
Like, we're playing make-believe.
I don't care what the superhero is as long as we get along and they fit the character's persona.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yennefer, I think, did it to you.
tim pool
But then when you see all of these things lined up and you're like, how come they're mostly doing it to redheads?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Did you see the video of the little black girl?
It went mega viral when they released.
Her mom's filming her watching the, um...
Trailer for Little Mermaid and a little black girl's like, that's not Ariel.
That's not Ariel.
What is that?
And her mom's just cracking up.
Cause she's like, her mom must also know like, man, these white people are crazy.
unidentified
Kid sees right through it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
The kid, like a little five-year-old kid's like.
tim pool
Here's the weirdest thing about it is they dyed the, what's the actress's name?
Haley.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Bailey.
tim pool
Bailey.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Haley Bailey.
tim pool
Haley Bailey.
They dyed her hair red.
They bleached it.
And see, I said, that's racist.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It is.
tim pool
I said, It's like blackface without the historical context.
When the movie came out I said, yeah I actually don't care for the most part when fictional characters are depicted by literally anybody who wants to play the role because we're playing make-believe.
You know maybe you want to match the genders properly and fit the character's persona and stuff like that especially like if they made it a gay black mermaid guy who's with another guy it'd be like we're getting a little crazier.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Debbie Netflix.
tim pool
They dyed her hair red.
And I was like, I was like, hey, uh, that's racist.
If you want a black actress to play Ariel, let her be a black actress.
And all of these woke people were like, but Ariel has red hair.
And I'm like, the book also says she has fair skin.
Don't play the game.
If you want to have her play the character, have her play the character.
Don't dye her hair red.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, they do Snow White too.
Like, Snow White's a little more offensive because like, The tale literally says her skin's as white as snow, and now she's like a Latino chick.
I'm like, come on!
tim pool
Well, like, that one's great.
I mean, what's going on with that movie?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Dude, they're up to, I think, 400 mil on the budget.
It's going to be a disaster.
tim pool
That was where they tried filming The Seven Companions because Dwarf was offensive, and then they had to undo it and go back because everybody hated it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and they had to go, it's like Sonic, but Like 200 million more.
They had to CGI the dwarves.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And they tried to pretend like, like, oh no, that was just, um, they were just stand-ins.
I'm like, yeah, stand-ins who are in full makeup and full, like, no, no, you tried to do it.
You tried to do the seven magical characters.
unidentified
Are there pictures of them?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yes.
And they're in character.
It's very obvious.
That's what they did.
unidentified
Well, and the crazy thing is like with the tech that we have.
tim pool
Here we go, take a look at this.
unidentified
Yeah.
Very diverse group of people.
I mean, it looks like a photo out of the 70s.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You have three black guys, you have a trans person in the back, and a little dwarf.
unidentified
And the funny thing is, the little people actually are actors.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Dude, and then they came out and they were like, what's his name, mom?
He's pretty based.
Not just jackass, but he was like, dude, we live for this role and you took it away from us.
tim pool
Oh, Wee Man.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not just Wee Man, but Dinklage?
No, Dinklage was the one who said all about it.
tim pool
Yeah, he was like, take away our jobs!
unidentified
At first, I think.
Didn't he kind of back off that position, I think?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't know, but Dinklage pulled up the stepladder behind him.
unidentified
He did, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Once he got his role, he's like, but yeah, he plays Snaggle or something or whatever.
tim pool
I don't know.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, yes, yes, yes.
You're talking about the dude who played Professor Flitwick or whatever you're talking about?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy.
He's like, he's super based about it.
He was like, dude, what the heck?
This is like a dream role for people who are like me.
Warwick Davis?
unidentified
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, historically they've had roles, you know, like Willy Wonka, what's the other one?
Yeah, but they're like a meme in that too.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're heroic in this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Willy Wonka, they're like the butt of the joke.
unidentified
But the point is, they're still getting a paycheck.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but I'd rather play, you know.
unidentified
Understood, understood.
tim pool
So when, there was another big controversy when Magic the Gathering put out their Lord of the Rings set.
Didn't they make like Gandalf and Aragorn are black?
jeremy thequartering hambly
They made Aragorn black for sure.
I can't remember Gandalf.
This is the problem.
You just like, this is a slippery slope, but here's the broad picture.
By the way, their CEO stepped down two months ago.
When you have wokeism, this is why, folks, you need to gatekeep the things that you love.
tim pool
Sorry, Gandalf is not black in Lord of the Rings.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Aragorn is, though, for sure.
Aragorn, yeah.
But these people come in and they're more concerned.
The exact same thing happened to the boys, right?
Look, you live in a mythical world.
You could have infinite black people.
Infinite!
Why did you make Aragorn black?
Like, he's not black in the movie, and he's not black in the book.
So it's like, you don't have to do that.
And then black folks are like, I don't want this.
There's a non-zero percentage of black folks who are like, dude, we know.
Like, this is dumb and cringe.
This is who thinks of these ideas, overweight white women.
That's who thinks Of like, who thinks this is a good idea.
unidentified
Right, and also that score, right?
Like, the corporate score in Hollywood, or if you have a person of color on the screen a certain amount of time, like, you get a certain... Well, that's how you get a Grammy now.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You have to earn an Oscar.
But like, when you live in a fantasy world, you could create an entire race of black people and make them the most powerful cards in the game.
unidentified
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If that's what you wanted to do.
tim pool
It's a fairy!
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
Yeah, or owls you could do if you wanted.
tim pool
So in Magic the Gathering, they had one of the earliest sets.
It's Vision and Mirage.
What was the other one?
It's Vision and Mirage.
Was there one more?
Because they usually do threes.
But this is... God, that is bad.
Right, and it's 1994-95, and Teferi is one of the most powerful sorcerers and time manipulators.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, Teferi.
Yes, yes, yes.
tim pool
Teferi.
And he's a black wizard, and no one had a problem with that.
We loved those sets back in the day.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's a planeswalker.
tim pool
He's a planeswalker?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, so let's talk a little bit about magic.
Early set, for those that don't know anything about it, the general idea is it's a strategy card game, it's the first trading card game, it's chess and it's poker combined, and a lot of people think it's like D&D, it's not, you're not dressing up like a wizard or anything like that, you're playing chess and poker combined, and so there's intellectual property backing the story, much like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hearthstone ripped it off if you're newer, a lot of people know what Hearthstone is, it's obviously a simpler version.
tim pool
So there's characters, there's Urza, there's Mishra, and there's a character type, a special wizard called a Planeswalker who can move between dimensions, and so within like a year or two of the release of this game, they come out with a set, an expansion called Mirage and Visions, and one of the most powerful characters is a black wizard named Teferi, and it was never that he was a black wizard.
He was literally just a planeswalker named Teferi who can control time and other things.
It was a very Afro-centric themed magic style.
And it made sense because the people who were behind the magic were thinking about what types of magic are there in culture that we could utilize as themes for our cards.
And so they had like Nordic ideas.
They had dwarves, elves, goblins.
And then they tried to do like, well, let's do like Afro-centric style stuff.
Nobody complained about it.
It wasn't woke.
There was no problem.
It was really cool.
People liked the theme.
Now they're making Aragorn black instead of making new cards that fit the themes that matter to different cultures.
This is the weirdest thing because I refer to this as like the hand-me-down wokeness.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Where they take existing things that people like and then just say we're done with it.
Let's make the character black and pass it off.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Black people don't like this.
There's no way.
Because they're not stupid.
Like, this is racist, in my opinion.
This is like, oh, just give them this.
unidentified
It's pandering and it's disrespectful to black women as well.
And you see this everywhere.
It's not just movies.
It's TV shows.
It's commercials.
It's billboards.
It's everywhere.
And it's becoming very sinister in my opinion.
Well, the funny thing is it's like I think people think it's being done for the black community or being done for the audience.
It's not.
It's being done for the insiders in Hollywood so they can get an award.
And how do you get an award?
You have to play the game and part of the game is having, you know, meeting the DEI, you know, curriculum.
tim pool
It's a literal checklist.
Did you pull this picture up, Kellen?
Yeah, you did of the Lord of the Rings.
unidentified
They make these movies for each other.
tim pool
And then we have this one too, Aragorn, King of Gondor.
And I'm just like... Okay, look, if a story is written and a character is set... Like Blade.
When I'm talking about an actor, Idris Elba played Heimdall.
And Heimdall is like a Norse god and a lot of people complain because they're like, Heimdall is a Nordic white man and I'm like, I don't really care all that much about that.
Idris Elba?
Idris Elba.
But Nordic people care.
They, for sure.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I can respect that.
I don't really care that much because Idris Elba, I think, is a great actor.
I think he did really well in that role.
I don't care if he plays James Bond or whatever, but I can understand why people who want to see a Nordic god, a piece of their culture, represented fairly are upset about it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Which now segues right into Assassin's Creed.
Yeah.
We can cover everything in ten minutes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a disaster, too.
unidentified
I haven't watched that one.
I'll say counter to that, Tim.
There is something to be said about maintaining the story.
There's so many kids growing up right now that think Thor and Loki and Odin are Marvel superheroes, and they've lost that history completely.
I totally understand if it's your culture and your tribe, and they're bastardizing your story.
It would be like taking Jesus and putting him in the Marvel Universe and saying, you know, Jesus is, you know, it's... Yeah, and this is a fair point, too.
tim pool
Someone, J.H.
Superchatty, could you imagine if they made a white blade?
Exactly.
unidentified
And that's true, too, like... Like Brian Reynolds' blade, also.
tim pool
When they make a black Aragorn... I'm assuming everybody knows, okay, we're getting a little esoteric, perhaps.
If you don't know Aragorn, he's like one of the main characters of Lord of the Rings.
He is Strider, you know, if you've seen the movie.
Who plays him?
jeremy thequartering hambly
What's his... Viggo Mortensen.
tim pool
Viggo Mortensen, right.
And so it's a white guy.
If you did the inverse with other races, people would get really mad, which is really interesting now with Assassin's Creed, the new game that's coming out, because they made a black samurai in feudal Japan, and Japan's threatening to boycott it.
Because Assassin's Creed, for those that don't know, is a video game where it's a period set video game in various different eras where there's like a Greek mythology, there's Sumerian, There's piracy, there's British, and the characters fit the theme of the historical era in the region they're in.
But when they made Japan, the character they give you is a black samurai, instead of a Japanese warrior, or whatever.
And so now, in Japan, they're sparrows.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Spat right in their face.
Spat right in their face.
Oh, but there's, uh, what's it, Nobunaga, or whatever, or no, um, no, no, who's the guy, the black samurai, they're using to justify it.
unidentified
Yes, yes, yes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He was like a pet.
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that's how he was viewed according to the lore.
He was like passed around among other... He was not a samurai.
unidentified
Not the hero.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and like... Why can't I think of his name?
Chat, maybe bail me out.
The Nobunaga I think is a guy that like I don't want to he didn't own him but I think he was like the he was like connected to him.
unidentified
It was a different time.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah but yeah but like Japan actually has the balls to say like uh not we're not doing that like their government is involved but they're investigating them for like spitting on their history It's like the Japanese government, you said?
Yeah.
I'm like, I told you this would happen.
Japan doesn't play.
Like, you can't just make a samurai black.
It does not work.
tim pool
Well, I mean, Japan has a culture of people committing them, committing suicides if they dishonor their families.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
So if you, if they feel dishonored, they're gonna take it very seriously.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, they take it very seriously.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, by the way, you know who wrote the, who's a story creator on this?
An overweight white woman.
Who has a gender studies degree, by the way.
Not a historical degree.
tim pool
We'll dive back to Magic the Gathering, because there's been this thing happening for... Jeremy, you can probably tell me how long it's been going on, where they started making the art frumpy, disgusting people.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, that started like Trump era.
A long one where it started everywhere else.
tim pool
If you go back to early Magic the Gathering... No more pretty women either.
Right, that's what I mean.
The very early cards depicted... Earthbind, baby.
Is that the woman in the bikini or whatever?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and then like the ground is holding her down.
It takes away flying.
tim pool
But there's angels, Sarah Angels, and they're depicted as beautiful women in art, and then they started at some point making the women characters look fat, out of shape, frumpy, and gross.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The men are still hot, though.
The men still have six pants.
Coincidentally, there's, yeah, you're right.
And that's been the uglification.
And then when they said, look, yes, there are different body types.
Not everyone's beautiful, but they knew this in the 1930s when early marketing was kind of started to research data.
Men like beautiful women, but they also like beautiful men.
Women like beautiful women.
Women don't like ugly, ugly women characters.
unidentified
Jerry.
jeremy thequartering hambly
See?
The Golden Era!
tim pool
She's basically naked.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Can you pull this one up?
jeremy thequartering hambly
They would never print that card now.
tim pool
It's not even sexual, it's like... It's a fairy who's being tied down by plants.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and it's specific, yeah, the card takes away flying.
tim pool
That makes sense, right?
unidentified
It's like entangled.
tim pool
Here's a question I have for you, Jeremy.
Is Magic the Gathering a female-dominated game now?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, it never has been.
unidentified
It probably never will be.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's propaganda.
I've played it my whole life.
tim pool
But could this be that the marketing department at Hasbro are saying, why don't women play Magic the Gathering?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but you know what they said?
It was that men kept them out.
But here's the thing, as somebody who played for a long time too, that's what kind of radicalized me against this stuff is when they started attacking men.
If you look into articles about gatekeeping and Magic the Gathering, they always say, oh, fat neckbeards don't want women.
BS!
Here's what happens when a woman's, like if you've ever been in a game store, here's what happens if a chick walks in.
Every guy in that place trips over themselves to help them and like they'll give them blop-sided trades.
They're like, oh, you need like a, I'm dead, I mean, I've been in- - Pretty privilege, it's pretty privilege. - I've been in game stores since I was 14, 13 years old, and every single time a girl came in, guys are like, oh, I have a foil version of that one.
Do you want it for free?
Or I'll say, you know, like, Oh, you want to play?
We'll play with us.
I have never seen a woman like disrespected in a magic shop.
And then they would write articles and say, Oh, these women would, these like social justice warriors were coming to the game.
And they would say, Oh, I walked into a game shop and nobody talked to me.
I've been to a hundred and that has never happened.
tim pool
The first game shop I went to, I was probably 12, 11 or 12 years old, and any point a woman walks into a shop where people are playing Magic the Gathering, you may as well expect the men to break out into Gregorian chant and start lighting candles to worship them as a goddess.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's how it goes.
unidentified
That's overly nice.
tim pool
There could be off-putting.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Some guys are awkward.
unidentified
I'm so confused here.
I played basketball.
tim pool
Well, that's because you're lame.
You know, the cool kids are over here talking about magic.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You couldn't afford magic.
You were poor.
tim pool
I was.
unidentified
I was.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I couldn't afford magic.
Nobody could and nobody can still.
That's exactly it.
And yes, guys could be awkward.
I saw it.
You know, they might say something that they didn't mean to be weird or, you know, they do the stupid thing like, oh, you're pretty good for a girl, something unintentional.
But these guys got villainized.
And then these same people that would write these articles, here's something that the left has always known.
Everybody who is in the gaming space or Magic the Gathering space or any of these spaces that are getting quote unquote woke-ified, the left figured out a long time ago that they would get these little positions, community managers.
They would sign up as like the Reddit mods.
They would sign up as all this stuff and they realized that that had an immense amount of power.
So then they could start saying these narratives like, Oh, men are keeping women out.
And then they would ban anybody who would push back against that narrative.
They would ban anybody who would call them stupid for saying that stuff.
And then that narrative becomes the truth.
The same thing with every video game.
Community manager.
They're all the same.
tim pool
You got banned.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I got banned, yeah.
tim pool
But how do you get banned from a game?
What is that like?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, I'm technically banned from tournament play.
tim pool
For what reason?
Did you like throw a pie at somebody?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, I never had an infraction publicly.
I was always very good.
Essentially, I went to war with Wizards of the Coast.
I outed them for having like a dozen pedophile registered pedophiles and sex offenders in their midst.
I forced my viewers and I forced them to Institute background checks because we cause so much trouble now along the way I was young and I was sloppy and I was too mean So there was you know a couple times.
I was like picking fights with Mark Rosewater You know when he would say because they were talking junk about men, so I deserved it You know like I was picking.
I never had a bad interaction with anybody I I was always very kind to people, but online I was young and I was a little aggressive.
I made fun of this cosplayer.
I was like too mean about it.
Um, you know, because I saw these cosplayers coming in to the space and extracting money.
And then that cosplayer now, by the way, has an OnlyFans.
Surprise, surprise!
I was right, but I was too mean to her.
I apologized to her, but it was too late.
I had built up too many basically strikes.
tim pool
I want to point something out that maybe Jeremy, you could tell me if I'm wrong.
I watch a lot of sports.
I watch poker a lot.
We just watch the World Series.
Magic the Gathering seems to have a disproportionate amount of cheaters.
It does.
jeremy thequartering hambly
All the best players are cheaters.
tim pool
It's kind of nuts.
I was just watching the Modern Horizons 3.
I'm trying not to be super esoteric, but a new set was released.
They have a tournament, and there's like five cheating... How many cheating scandals are there already?
One guy, they say, intentionally missed a trigger on purpose.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I saw the guy getting caught not cutting.
He saw a card he wanted and he put it on the bottom of the deck.
This is the problem when you play with physical cards.
And a lot of these guys have these like ticks or like shuffling the decks.
Oh, don't touch my cards, dude.
Yeah, I don't like them touching my cards in tournaments.
They could solve all of this if people would watch the game digitally.
But nobody wants to.
tim pool
But it's not just that.
There's something about Magic the Gathering has something strange about it.
The players are disproportionately out of shape.
And this is nuts.
You watch chess.
You do not see this many overweight, unkempt people.
It's overly woke.
And those are separate from each other.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're either apolitical or far left.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But then you have all these cheaters.
And I'm watching this and I'm like, here's a guy with his pronouns listed, accused of cheating.
Is there a correlation between the way they behave publicly?
And I'll clarify too, I'm not saying that all men together are cheaters.
Our players are cheaters.
What I'm saying is, the person who publicly tries to be a male feminist is cheating in real life.
They're lying, they're manipulating, and trying to weasel their way through these systems.
And then when it comes to the actual gameplay, they cheat.
Dude, there are too many cheaters in this game.
That's why I absolutely hate competitive magic because of the ease at which people cheat.
It's crazy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't want to call it any names, because I don't want to give them credit.
But there have been champions who have gotten caught Cheating a dozen times on camera.
If you watch tournaments, like only Tim and I apparently do, the chat sees it.
They rely on the chat and the chat's like, did he just miss a trigger?
Or he said, yeah, he didn't shuffle.
He, he fake cut.
And then like it's, and they have a judge standing right over them and they still pull it off.
And it's like, part of it's because you're also responsible for enforcing... It's not like poker where there's, like, very few rules.
I mean, there's what beats what, but there's very few rules at the table.
Don't splash the pot.
tim pool
A guy just got accused of cheating at the World Series.
There was a three-way all-in, and when the guy who won got up and started cheering, you see a guy on camera pulling chips back to his stack, and the dealer didn't catch it.
I don't know if he actually cheated, that's the accusation.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That is cheating, though.
If he did do it, you'd be out.
unidentified
I'll defend the woke in this that, you know, anything that's competitive seems like it produces cheaters.
tim pool
I don't know, dude.
unidentified
Well, if you look at bicycling, if you look at, like, any sports.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That guy cheated at a hot dog eating contest.
tim pool
Yeah, if you look at... How did that happen?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't know.
He, like, got credit.
He, like, touched the other guy's plate.
He came out and apologized for it.
tim pool
Touched the other guy's plate?
unidentified
But it's, like, when you're so close... Nathan's won the big one.
Yeah, when it's so competitive where everyone's so close and like a, you know, half a second counts and matters, like, people will, you know, try and bend the rules.
So, you know, obviously it's important to try and, you know, make it as cheat-free as possible.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Magic is...
I think you're right.
People cheat in competitive sports.
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
Hashtag Bill Belichick.
But Magic the Gathering has an enormous amount of cheaters, even at the casual level.
Even at the casual level.
When you're playing on Friday Night Magic, they cheat.
tim pool
Dude, it is absolutely nuts.
So, for example...
jeremy thequartering hambly
I catch it all the time, and when you're a big guy, you get to call it out.
I'm like, hey man, no.
But when you're like these little mousy guys, that's why they get away with it.
tim pool
Dude, the reason why I quit, for the most part competitive when I was a kid, was because my opponent, I was playing in the Junior Scholastic Series, and my opponent cheated, and they allowed it.
So what happened was, I'm trying to avoid being overly esoteric here, but I'll try my best.
This is a youth Magic the Gathering tournament, I'm like 13, and I bring in my deck, we're playing, and I beat the guy.
What do they do?
It's 2 out of 3, right?
I beat the guy the first round.
Or the first game.
And then you sideboard.
You have 15 cards not in your deck that you can switch into your deck to better accommodate what you're up against.
It's a function of tournaments.
It's totally normal.
And we play another round.
I get crushed.
I get obliterated.
And I was like, wow.
I was like, was he playing these cards for us?
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's one heck of a sideboard.
Yeah.
tim pool
So then we go, okay, one for one.
We play the third one.
And then obliterates me.
And I was like, that's it.
I lose.
And then he goes, if I didn't change my deck, you would have won.
Oh, he changed the whole deck.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a hard rule, yeah.
tim pool
you can't change your deck.
And he's like, yeah, what do you mean?
And I was like, you switched your deck out because I was beating you?
And he's like, yeah, that's against the rules.
Judge.
The judge went, well, I mean, we've got a new set coming out and he's experimenting, so we think it's okay.
And I was like, what?
And they're like, you're out, kid.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a hard rule.
Yeah, no, you can't.
That's wild.
tim pool
I was like, I'm never playing again.
And so maybe I'm biased or whatever.
But now, what people do, like the most common cheating, and this, I think this form of cheating happened probably like a thousand times and no one said anything.
In the game of Magic, you each have your own deck of cards.
Trading card game.
And there are cards that allow you to search your deck, and then when you, after you're done, you have to shuffle it to randomize it.
Your opponent is allowed to cut to prevent cheating.
What happens is, for some reason, and you'll have to explain, I don't get it, they allow the opponent to shuffle instead of just cut.
And so what the opponents would do, is they would shuffle and intentionally palm a card, or they'd slight of hand a card onto the top of the deck to harm the opponent's gameplay.
And it happens like a thousand times, and just nobody does anything about it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The big part there is, when you get to that level of competition, there's basically only three or four decks, three or four strategies.
And they will look at what's on the board of the opponent.
And then people will say, how do they know?
Well, they'll know what you need to go off.
Or they know what card you need.
And they know you can only have up to four on your deck.
tim pool
Yep.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So they'll find one while they're shuffling.
tim pool
and then put it on the bottom. - Or they'll put a-- - Or they'll put a bad card on top. - Exactly, so you draw one card per turn, and there have been numerous scenarios where you're watching live, and the guy's gonna be like, it's a tight spot, it's a really close game, and if he gets any one of these cards, he can turn it around, and then he draws a dead card.
Because the opponent, from the bottom, shuffled the dead card onto the top, and you can't touch it then, and nobody-- And they go, oh no, it was an accident.
Prove that I did it on purpose.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and it happens all the time, and that can be enough to swin the entire game.
Like, you're drawing dead, you don't get the card, now you go off game, win.
It should be like poker, where you have a shuffling machine.
tim pool
One cut, one cut.
Okay, if I shuffle, you can take the deck and do a one-handed cut, that's it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Would that be enough, too?
tim pool
So let's bring it back to the politics.
The reason I brought up the cheating scandals is not to get into the nitty-gritty of magic.
It was to point out that when I watched the latest tournament, the Pro Tour, and they've got the pronouns under their names, and I'm like, here is one of the most overtly dominated events in, I don't know if you call it sporting or whatever, by wokeness.
unidentified
Competitive?
tim pool
Competitive.
And they've got cheating scandals non-stop.
There's two big cheating scandals right now in that tour.
And I'm like, I don't think it's coincidence that the people who are willing to play these weird political games and lie, cheat, manipulate are also cheating at a game.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh yeah, I think that's actually, I never really thought about it that way, but yeah, I 100% believe that.
People aren't honest in real life, aren't honest in playing card games.
If you cheated a card game with your friends, you're probably the biggest piece of trash in every other aspect of life.
unidentified
Is the percentage higher?
Maybe, but growing up with board games and stuff, it was always like, Part of the tradition is to, like, figure out how to steal, taking a little bit more money from the Monopoly bank or whatever.
tim pool
I don't know who you're talking about.
I don't know who you're talking about.
unidentified
No, not for me, but people I played with.
tim pool
Yeah, you played with some bad people.
unidentified
You always had to, like, spot it.
Game Genie for Super Nintendo, like, when that came out, it was all about cheating.
The whole thing was, like, putting in cheat codes so you can beat the game easier and stuff.
It was a lot of, like, handicapping it for people that were really bad at the game.
I'm not saying, you know, there could be a higher percentage in the woke circle.
tim pool
So, everybody in the world knows I also skateboard.
And in skateboarding you have a fun, competitive game called skate.
It functions like a horse in basketball.
I will do a trick, then you must do the trick.
If you do not do the trick, you get the letter S. If you spell the word skate, you lose.
I am particularly good at games of skate.
When I play with people, I don't play the most brutal game imaginable to win right away.
We play for fun.
And so, very often, I lose.
And I say, hey, good game.
If I'm playing with a younger, if there's like a younger skater who's not as good, so I was at the Hagerstown Skate Park in Maryland, and there was some kids skating, and I was like, hey, wanna play a game of skate?
I intentionally Do lighter and easier tricks so that we can both have a fun game together, and I try to do things he can do, and I try to make sure I don't just obliterate him with the craziest thing imaginable.
And that's not a function of cheating, it's a function of sportsmanship and trying to play a game for fun.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Being a good steward for the game, too, or for the hobby.
tim pool
In what reality would it make sense for me to go to, like, a 16-year-old who's skating, and I know that in three minutes I can destroy him and be like, you wanna play skate?
And then just do five tricks and be like, I win.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's ridiculous.
So why would you cheat in games with your friends?
unidentified
I mean, I totally agree.
It's weird.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I think Sean was the cheater.
unidentified
Listen, I don't condone cheating in any way, but you know, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, A, B, A, B, select, start.
tim pool
B, A, B, A. B, A, B, A, up, down, B, A, left, right, B, A, start.
unidentified
So I mean, ever since games have been around, cheating is like a big part of it.
And then like identifying who's cheating, you know.
tim pool
That was the Konami code you mentioned, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh yeah, Turtles 1.
tim pool
Yeah, so for those that have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 for Nintendo, it's B-A-B-A-up-down-B-A-left-right-B-A-start.
And imagine if I learned calculus or something instead of that code when I was seven.
Now I know that forever, I'll never forget it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
But I'm just saying like, you know, as long as games have been around, cheaters have existed, and identifying and exposing the cheaters has been part of the game also.
jeremy thequartering hambly
We'll look at what's his name, Billy.
He sues everyone who calls him a cheater.
tim pool
Oh, is that the Donkey Kong guy?
Yeah, Pac-Man.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's suing everybody because he has the world record.
I don't know if he's a cheater.
tim pool
No, I think it was that he wasn't.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I think he won his lawsuit.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that they lied about him being a cheater or something like that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I don't know.
The chat's probably exploding because we're getting it wrong.
But yeah, I mean, it's a big deal because it's been highly contested because that's one of those things where you're playing on like an arcade cabinet.
tim pool
So let's let's let's talk about like how conservatives are equally as bad at all of this stuff because we had the new norm and Mr. Bircham and the new norm, holy crap.
I'm gonna pull that one up.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They called themselves the South Park of the whatever.
And I was like, dude.
unidentified
It was so on the nose.
Did we find out who's responsible for this?
tim pool
Can I just point out?
Let me find the new norms.
So, for those that don't know, this is an anti-woke show.
They call themselves the South Park of X. Let me see if I can pull up their website.
I wonder if they got rid of this.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I think they bailed on it.
They still did it?
tim pool
No, take a look at this.
So, here's the new Norm Show.
Make America Funny Again.
It's the first animated sitcom on X. It's supposed to be, like, anti-woke.
It is super cringe.
Look at this.
Bill Maher.
unidentified
That's brilliant.
tim pool
Brilliant.
unidentified
He did not call this show brilliant.
tim pool
Read what it says.
Can you read it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Brilliant.
I can't.
Oh, here.
tim pool
80s... What does that say?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Bill Maher, HBO real-time host, speaking of show creators, previous work featured on HBO.
Oops!
tim pool
Not their show.
They actually put on their website, brilliant, quote Bill Maher, and then in tiny letters wrote, speaking of a different show, of other work.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They didn't even edit out the follows you part on Dave Rubin.
unidentified
I know, isn't that funny?
It's like Rubin's the only one with an X profile.
tim pool
Dave Rubin plays one of the characters in this show.
unidentified
Bill Maher is not the best taste in shows.
He propped up Vice forever.
tim pool
What's funny is I don't know what the new norm should have done.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's fine, it's just Boomer, it's just not funny.
tim pool
No, no, no, what I mean is like, it got backlash from everyone.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, I know.
tim pool
They put this on a platform that is dominated by millennial culture warriors, and then it gets roasted by the left and the right.
I think my favorite response was gprime85, who showed the King Baratheon from Game of Thrones saying, give me something for the pain and let me die.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, that was so good, it got a million likes, too.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But their response is to like own it, and they're like here.
Here's what they posted time panic, and it's the new norm character like What do you do with the show that everybody hates and you're already you're already in you're?
unidentified
committed like well, it's like the new one that that Seth McFarlane did with good times was that set all the black community yeah Hey, dude!
Absolutely ratioed.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, we're all just gun-toting, gangster, baby, and drug addicts?
unidentified
The Stewie babies, like, yeah, a pimp and a drug dealer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Give me something for the pain and let me die.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's only 1.5.
I think he quoted it too, but yeah, that's the one, dude.
That's the one.
unidentified
So what are the conservatives doing wrong?
I think they're playing into the hand of the left.
I think they're playing into the identity politics.
And I heard this kind of at the RNC yesterday a lot.
I heard a lot of identity politics on stage with certain speakers.
They're becoming what they're fighting.
Correct.
And it's like you're trying to take up the mantle.
Instead of just making a good product, you're trying to take up the mantle of the left and make arguments.
tim pool
I don't think they're becoming what they're fighting.
I think the left has become what the right was.
The right has always been mocked for these, like, overtly message-heavy shows.
You know, like Bible Man and stuff like that.
Yeah.
And then the left started doing the same thing because they've adopted their own religion as well.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
So they're not creative.
They're not challenging ideas.
There's no deep philosophy.
Nothing makes you question your life or your reality or your morals at all.
It's just The same thing.
So when they make the new norm to counter the left, they're literally making the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
They're also using their arguments at the same time.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If you look at like a good example of like...
What people might call anti-woke comedy, it's just comedy.
If you look at Kill Tony, he's crushing it right now, right?
The latest episode, they had Trump, Shane Gill says Trump, and Adam Rae as Biden.
The most hilarious episode I've ever seen.
Not once, but twice in that episode did they call someone the bundle of sticks words.
They're bringing it back.
unidentified
They say the N-word, they say the F-word, they say all the words.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That word used to get thrown around a lot when I was young and it had nothing to do with being gay.
But that's like, oh, this is anti-woke.
People are like, oh, it's anti-woke.
I'm like, no, they just don't care.
They don't care.
That's anti-woke.
tim pool
I don't understand this, right?
Look, I love the Daily Wire.
I think they're trying and they're pushing back culturally, but they're not getting there.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The Hyperion's was okay.
That was like a superhero show.
tim pool
But they bought that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I know.
You're right.
unidentified
Did they make this?
Are they responsible for this?
No, no, no.
tim pool
We don't even know who made this show.
unidentified
Probably someone... They bought Bergam.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Probably a billionaire somewhere.
tim pool
What I would say is... Bergam was Adam Carolla, wasn't it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and he had the show done and he was trying to get someone to buy it.
unidentified
And they're asking people to support this show?
Yeah, Bertram was Adam Corlead.
That's a big banner.
Support this show now.
tim pool
Did you watch it, Luke?
unidentified
I watched the small clip of it.
tim pool
Right, the three minute thing.
unidentified
But is there an actual like... We gotta play it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How do you watch it?
tim pool
Let me play a little bit because it's like, it's so bad.
unidentified
It's so on the nose.
It's so on the nose.
Progress, it's the new norm.
jeremy thequartering hambly
This sounds like an A.I.
theme song, too.
tim pool
So I got a question.
There's a beer on the side table, and he is surprised to find it's a rainbow beer?
Like, who bought the beer and who brought it to you?
unidentified
Exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Where did this come from?
unidentified
I'm the old Norm.
I want normal beer.
tim pool
Warning.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Warning.
tim pool
Fire reached.
unidentified
Ugh, it's your fault I got house arrest.
You're the one who threatened the school board.
I gently suggested they stop brainwashing my daughter that girls aren't girls and men aren't men.
tim pool
It's literally just saying, this thing happened in Loudoun County, Virginia and we've written it into a cartoon.
jeremy thequartering hambly
There's one aspect of this, I don't know how much of it you're going to play, but one thing I thought was actually good writing is that the daughter When the non-binary guy comes in, she's like, oh, like worships him for being non-binary.
unidentified
I'm like, kind of funny.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's actually like what happens.
And it's like less on the nose.
It's more like, but the rest of it's trash.
unidentified
Yeah.
But this is what I mean.
Like they're playing into what the left wants you to believe.
They're using their arguments instead of just portraying like, you know, the values and what it should be.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Boomer cons will still like this.
unidentified
Right.
Well, you know, and Tim asks, you know, what are the conservatives missing?
I think what they're missing.
Well, I think, yeah.
Well, I think what they're missing, you know, even with the Daily Wire, it's like, there are so many people out there that have been cancelled by the left for various things that, you know, resurrecting some of these people, bringing them into the projects.
I mean, look at the Gina Carano thing, like when she got cancelled, bringing her over, I think that was a brilliant move.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but they never really resurrected anybody.
But they can at one point.
tim pool
What you were saying is like anti-woke comedy is just comedy.
And so George Alexopoulos, gprime85 on Instagram, made this sketch after the assassination attempt.
It's Donald Trump swatting the bullet away from his ear with his like grim look on his face.
Like, this is how you counter woke comedy.
You make comedy.
You be funny.
unidentified
Yeah, you put out what comedy really is.
That's what I'm saying with the show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
This is the once and best.
unidentified
Instead of giving more airtime to the woke narrative, just lead by what we want to see.
What does that one say?
Because I can't see it that well.
tim pool
I know.
I wonder if I can't make it any bigger.
Let me introduce you to our new meme manager.
And it's like this guy wearing like a crop top.
And then it's Kareem Jean-Pierre.
He's here to help get Riz with America's Youth using dank memes.
Here, sir, please wear this costume and read this script.
And then it's Biden wearing a toilet saying, Skibidi.
And Kareem Jean-Pierre saying, that's perfect, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, they're just missing the based eyes, the laser eyes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Skibidi Biden.
unidentified
Yeah, what was that?
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's Colbert.
unidentified
I mean, no, it's Kimmel.
No, it was Colbert.
It was Colbert, yeah.
Sorry, yeah.
Kimmel's just as bad, though.
jeremy thequartering hambly
This is my world, man.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Skipping you by the... Kimmel's got his own problems.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you think?
Dude, Kimmel... He's luckier.
unidentified
We don't want to get kicked off, but yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you mean?
Kimmel's best friend was...
Mr. Jeffrey's personal chef.
unidentified
That's a fact.
tim pool
For years.
And then when he bailed out his restaurant.
unidentified
For years.
tim pool
The speculation was that Kimmel may be appearing in these documents.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a fine speculation.
unidentified
He absolutely would.
tim pool
And then they were like, you crazy.
He got so mad.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That only made it worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, not only, it's not like, you know, just friends, like they've been friends for decades.
jeremy thequartering hambly
By the way, just because you were there, that doesn't mean you were participating.
Of course.
unidentified
There's no way that BFFs are not going to be sharing stories, especially since he's there for three years, he's feeding the women, he's underfeeding the women because he was told to unfeed them.
When you're feeding the babies and the children with unaccompanied parents that are crying at the table after having a horrendous thing happen to them on the private island where horrendous things happen to them?
Not allegedly.
The island was, again we can't say it here because we're on YouTube, but that island was known as the island where children go to, as young as babies.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you think this has, I have not watched late night since, but that's the other thing that obviously has to change, right?
Kimmel is on break, I really wanted to see how Kimmel is going to react because he has the worst TDS, but like, Colbert like dialed it back and now he's done that.
Colbert actually did the step down please, Mr. Biden.
unidentified
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
They're marching along with whatever CIA script sent to them.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but I'm just wondering if they're going to go back to Orange Man bad.
What's the waiting period?
Because there's usually like, you know, because You know, how long they're going to dial back the Redick, or if they're not going to, because that's their whole shtick.
Like, Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert are literally just for people with TDS or old people who fell asleep while the TV was on.
unidentified
Yeah, and Bill Maher as well.
It's like Jimmy Kimmel and Bill Maher.
Orange man will always be back.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, Bill will be fine.
unidentified
Bill's the worst.
But their TDS is off the charts.
But if you look at the Man Show, these people have so many skeletons in their closet.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's why they told the narrative.
unidentified
Exactly.
Or not skeletons if you don't care.
They probably have so much extortion on them.
They probably have so much compromise on them.
tim pool
Bill Maher was here, he was supposed to be here in Milwaukee.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He bailed, he cancelled.
tim pool
Well his plane broke.
I guess they said his private jet had a mechanical failure and he couldn't fly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He did, wait, no he did do a stand-up though.
tim pool
It was postponed.
unidentified
I had tickets, they cancelled.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh it was before, it was back where he lived.
tim pool
So I don't know if he's planning on doing it again or what happened.
But I was just, it's like a block away from the RNC, from the Baird Center or whatever, two or three blocks.
And I see all these people outside upset and I was just, I'm thinking to myself, Bill Maher is one of the most ignorant political commentators that we have today.
And I don't know if this was true of him 20, 30 years ago.
Like, he was always just a low-tier, surface-level viewer of the news who then commented on things he was told to comment on.
unidentified
But I'm just thinking to myself, like... I resemble that remark.
tim pool
How do you...
I couldn't imagine anyone who actually reads the news finding anything Bill Maher says funny.
Because the way I described it to, uh, the way I described it is like... So, so, so, uh, Magic the Gathering.
Let's try and use the most simple thing, baseball.
Something that people might just generally understand, and I'll give you my analogy.
It would be like someone going up on stage and being like, I saw a man try to swing at a ball, and then he ran for a base.
Why would you do that?
And you're like, well, that's baseball, Bill.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's part of the game.
tim pool
That's what you do.
And that's what he does politically.
He goes up and he's like, when Dennis Prager mentioned the tampons in the boys' room, Bill's like, Oh heavens, you're losing your mind!
They laughed at him.
That was three years ago.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but he later went and commented on that.
By the way, in the stand-up right after, in his stand-up, in his show after the attempt on Trump's life, he did, and again, like, I hate him I guess less than you, but like, he's smug.
I don't like the thing, I won't smoke weed because Steve-o, that's pathetic, pompous.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But like, um, that'd be like, you know, like, imagine that.
tim pool
Like, if you're like, hey Jeremy, could you like not So, real quick, Steve-O wanted to come on his show and said, I've been sober for a while, I can't be around drugs, and he was like, I'm gonna smoke pot anyway, and he's like, well, I'm not coming on your show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but in his stand-up after, it must have been Saturday or Sunday, he correctly, I think, pointed out that the left lost the moral high ground that day, and that is what cascaded down, because they're the violent ones now.
Even though, I know, we all know, but the normies didn't know.
unidentified
I kind of think they're putting something in the weed that makes you a cultural Marxist.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Nah, a lot of conservatives smoke.
unidentified
Look at Bill Maher.
Look at the other guy, Seth Rogen, that was a part of the thing.
I think there might be something when it comes to over abusing that particular substance that just kind of makes you a soy boy a little bit.
Yeah, from a professional standpoint, Marr is a comedian.
I've worked with a lot of comedians that shared stage with them, and they all say the same thing.
He's an asshole, right?
Like, he won't share a mic, so if someone else is on a mic, they have to, like, put a new mic in and stuff.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but he's also a germaphobe.
tim pool
If you're going to do comedy and in politics, you need to know what you're saying.
And so Bill Maher represents the people who go watch him don't know what they're laughing at.
unidentified
I was going to say, the only thing that I like about Bill Maher is the fact that he will bring on lefties that we can't get.
tim pool
He will bring on lefties that, you know, the Hollywood lefties... He read a quote joke on Opener from Jack Posobiec as if it were real because the man doesn't know how to use Google.
I'm sorry, dude.
Jack Posobiec was up on stage, and he says, you know, hey everybody, thanks for coming to the event.
We didn't end democracy on January 6th, but we will strive to endure.
Everyone laughs, and then Bill Maher goes, oh!
Oh, he wants to overthrow democracy!
And I'm like, Bill, it's called a joke.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Do you remember when he apologized?
Do you remember when he brought on Ice Cube to apologize for being the N-word?
Yeah.
He thought he could use the N-word.
He brought on Ice Cube, I think.
tim pool
Well, he did.
He used to.
unidentified
I was going to say, with Sarah Silverman back in the day, even like 10 years ago, 15 years ago or whatever, they were openly using the N-word.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but he's like, I married a black wife so I have the pass.
No.
And they brought him on to like take his, I don't know what you would call it, like a struggle session?
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen in my life.
tim pool
So what I think's happened a while ago is that politics became pop culture.
And I think this has a lot to do with the culture war.
It's the left's fault.
They started injecting this stuff into movies and video games.
Gamergate was the first big battle of the culture war.
When people were like, I just want to have my goblin fight a lizard person.
And they were like, is the lizard person a white lizard person?
And you're like, I don't know.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Who does that lizard person sleep with when they're not on screen?
tim pool
Exactly.
And so then all of a sudden, younger people have no choice but to engage politically if they want to be involved in pop culture.
Oh, and politics, sorry.
And then where we are now, you have people who have no business in politics screaming at the top of their lungs on X. I got an example.
So I've been having a back and forth with Jess Margera of the band CKY.
For those who are not familiar, this is Bam Margera's brother.
And they are particularly prominent in the 2000s with Evil of Bam and Jackass and all these things.
And he, you know, not like he's the most prominent guy in the world, but he really exemplifies something really well.
He made this insane post where he said, and this is, you know, they're not the biggest band in the world, anything like this, this is Bam's brother.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They were popular for a while, though.
tim pool
Oh, I mean, Viva La Bam was like one of the biggest shows ever, 24-7, Jackass was huge.
unidentified
On MTV, yep.
tim pool
He says, we call them MAGAs in the States, except they are armed to the teeth, they shoot kids in class, grandmas at Walmart, former presidents, etc.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Is he talking about trans people?
tim pool
I responded with, I said, bro, that's insane and not true, do you not see how extreme you are?
He then went on to add something to the effect of, almost every major mass shooting is committed with an AR-15.
Do liberals have those?
jeremy thequartering hambly
What?
That's... Plainly false.
tim pool
I immediately just did a quick search, grabbed the stats, and said, it's handguns.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, by far.
tim pool
What we're seeing with this, and the reason why I bring it up, is that this is somebody who's in pop culture, who has no business in politics, who has decided to start espousing things on social media to get attention, because pop culture is politics.
He has no idea what he's talking about.
He has no business in the space.
I'm not gonna go yell at him because his drum rhythm is off, because I don't know drums.
I'm not gonna be able to tell him anything about double bass pedals or whatever.
But all of these people with zero experience in politics, advocacy, activism, anything, have decided to become politicians and activists.
Why is it, we make this joke on X that, oh suddenly everyone's a legal expert, oh suddenly a civil rights expert, a vaccine expert, how come we're not talking about, why isn't the zeitgeist on X people talking about, I don't know, the boys?
The latest, oh I'm sorry, the boys is literally just a reflection from Seth Rogen's perspective on the culture war.
Everything has become politics.
unidentified
Well, and that's, again, why I like Maher in the sense that he can bring on voices that we will never hear their positions.
You know, he'll have guests on that would never, never interact with us.
tim pool
But hold on, like, what's the benefit of Bill Maher bringing on someone who has no idea what's going on to lie to people or to espouse falsehoods?
unidentified
To expose that they're lying to people.
tim pool
What I'm saying is Bill Maher Has a show where he keeps people uninformed.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to do it.
I'm saying there's no value for us.
There's no reason for us to give him credit for doing it.
unidentified
But we're not listening to it.
You see what I mean?
He has a different audience.
tim pool
Which is my point.
unidentified
Yeah, he has a different audience.
His audience is trapped.
tim pool
And then we can expose it.
To who?
Bill Maher gets a million people per week on his show.
His ratings are just shy of a million.
And he tells them fake news every single day.
He's allowed to do it.
I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to do it.
I'm saying there's no value in that.
I'm not gonna praise that he brings on morons to lie to people.
unidentified
I'm just saying when he brings on Seth MacFarlane and Seth MacFarlane goes on there and shares the worst COVID information in the world, at least we know it motivates Family Guy.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
I kind of feel like Seth MacFarlane tells us in Family Guy.
unidentified
Right, but hearing it right out of his mouth is really important.
tim pool
I want to give Seth MacFarlane some credit.
Brian Griffin in Family Guy, he has said, I'm pretty sure he said, it's him, it's supposed to be representative, and he's an insufferable liberal that everybody hates.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's right.
unidentified
But the point I'm making is like, yeah, we can say, oh, family guy's woke or whatever.
But when you hear it from the creator, oh, they're pro, you know, the vaccine and all that stuff.
Now we know.
jeremy thequartering hambly
By the way, American Dad is still great.
I still give my American Dad.
unidentified
American Dad was good.
tim pool
Well, they shifted a lot.
Like the early seasons of American Dad were very on the nose and critical of neocons and mocking them.
But now it just makes no sense.
And it's fun.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's just wacky.
tim pool
Yeah, it's just wacky.
I like American Dad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I like Family Guy too.
unidentified
There's some benefit.
All I'm saying is there's benefit to like hearing it from the horse's mouth versus us like, you know, watching the boys and making all of these, you know.
tim pool
I like Seth MacFarlane.
I think that if he was adequately informed, if he didn't get trapped watching people like Bill Maher, he'd actually be completely in alignment with us.
unidentified
No, he has huge TDS.
tim pool
I know, he was adequately informed.
He had that episode where Brian gets cancelled on Twitter.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That was great!
tim pool
Absolutely.
The show The Orville had an episode where he 100% criticized giving sex changes to babies.
There was a whole plot of Orville where they were like, our child is the wrong gender and needs surgery and he's like, you can't give a baby a sex change!
unidentified
And didn't he call out Harvey Weinstein before everyone in the industry was protecting him?
And Kevin Spacey.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Only half credit for that.
Because that means he knew.
unidentified
Well he said that.
He made comments openly, publicly about this.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well that's how they finally got Bill too.
Like Bill Cosby.
Everyone knew and finally Hannibal Buress.
He's like, you guys didn't know?
unidentified
I was gonna say, though, Hinchcliffe's bid on that is really good with Weinstein.
He's like, you know, yeah, he's a monster and all this, but there's a reason why movies have sucked for the last five years, you know?
It's pretty funny, you know?
Like, he's like, maybe uncancel him, you know?
tim pool
Let's get into as much trouble as we can.
Most of these women, not all of them, but most of them knew exactly what they were doing when they went to a hotel room.
unidentified
Joe Rogan has made this argument, if Harvey Weinstein was a woman and the man knew he had to sleep with her to become Batman and get a Porsche, No one would feel bad.
jeremy thequartering hambly
By the way, that happens.
unidentified
No one would feel bad.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Women in Hollywood.
unidentified
Terry Crews, you know, the guy, what's the guy from The Whale?
No, Terry Crews is a guy.
No, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, but that that contract happens even with guys, straight guys have to sleep with gay guys in order to become a star.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Women too.
unidentified
Even more.
Overwhelmingly, it's the gay guys in Hollywood.
It's a Hollywood culture.
tim pool
I just want to get all the leftists as mad as possible.
There are some women, many of them, Who came out and went, oh Harvey abused me!
When they were like, I'm gonna go to Harvey's place to try and get a movie role.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Do you know why?
Here's why.
Take it up another level.
We only heard from the people that failed.
None of those people were big stars.
unidentified
You know Brad Pitt got down.
Of course!
Oh yeah, that scene that he did.
Harvey?
No, I think there was a big fight between him and actually Harvey, actually.
I think there was some actual comments.
But when you look at the top celebrities, when you look at some of the biggest people in the industry, they get down.
Brad Pitt did come out again. 100%!
They have to sacrifice a lot of their dignity to be where they are.
Adults, you know, adult man, adult woman, that's fine.
That's their decision.
It's gross when it starts getting into the kids and that's a whole different, you know, thing.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Look what it did to Corey's.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Corey's, I, you know, I think even the kid from Home Alone, what's his name?
jeremy thequartering hambly
McCauley.
He's had a nice redemption arc.
unidentified
Yeah, but for a while he looked like, you know, drugged out.
tim pool
Was he abused?
unidentified
I think Michael Jackson.
You know, people can, that whole thing about Michael Jackson.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He was around Michael Jackson.
unidentified
I think.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's never said.
tim pool
Yeah, but hold on, hold on.
The thing about Michael Jackson is that the conspiracy theory is that he was a eunuch the whole time.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, it's largely debunked.
Like, Razorfist, shout out, has done great videos.
tim pool
Was Michael Jackson a eunuch?
The conspiracy theory is that they chopped his balls off because they wanted him to keep his singing voice.
unidentified
Yeah, well that's exactly what it was.
They chemically castrated it.
tim pool
I think that was his dad.
He really did not have any capability of sexual function.
unidentified
Well, but you can do other things, right?
Yeah, that's gross.
But the point I'm making is like that, you know, Hollywood culture.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He did have the, what do you call the wine?
The sleepy time?
Like Mountain Dew and wine he used to give the kids?
unidentified
Well, it's funny, if you go listen to Norm McDonald's podcast, Norm Live, a couple years ago, he had the guy from... You can't defame the dead.
Yeah, he had that guy from... What's that show with all the nerds?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'll look it up for you.
unidentified
What's that show with all the nerds, Jeremy?
Easy!
The one with the girl...
The girl with the... With boobs?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Are you talking about Big Bang Theory?
unidentified
Thank you.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, no, no.
unidentified
Listen, that dude... That is a minstrel show for nerds.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It makes fun of nerds.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
The point is... I don't like that show.
The point is the guy on the show went on Norm Macdonald Live and talked about his time at Michael Jackson's house as a kid with Macaulay Culkin and he told this like crazy story about... Which guy from the Big Bang Theory?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, he's the... The guy that was on Roseanne?
unidentified
No, no, no, not Rosa.
No, no, no.
The other one.
The Jewish guy?
Yes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Okay.
Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified
He went on Norm Macdonald Live.
He tells a really interesting story about this.
So yeah, check that out.
It's pretty crazy.
You look at all the child stars and they are absolutely messed up in the head because they were in an absolutely horrible, messed up industry.
Who's the guy that just came out?
Speaking to the microphone, but a lot of the children get ritualistically abused and Horrible.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What was the kid?
The kid that just came out from Disney and his story was absolutely- All of them.
unidentified
Every last one of them.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Like super recently, he was a Disney kid.
He kept going to this guy's house and getting, you know, the worst stuff.
And he kept going there.
His mom and dad kept dropping him off.
Drake.
From Drake and Josh.
Drake Bell?
Yeah.
The story is- He was abused?
Brutally.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Repeatedly.
unidentified
That whole Nickelodeon doc.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And what happened with the only reason it stopped is that he had a girlfriend, all of it was going on.
He had a girlfriend and he was at his girlfriend's mom's house and his abuser called there looking for him to, so he could abuse him.
And the girlfriend's mom was like, what is this?
Why is there a 40 year old man calling you?
And that, that blew the whole thing up.
Like it was his parents let it happen.
His dad, I'm sorry, his dad was not, they got separated.
His dad never knew and then he found out like live on the show.
unidentified
There's so many sick, evil, satanic worshipping people in Hollywood.
It is absolutely crazy the stuff that they do.
Is this why movies suck now though?
tim pool
Because we got rid of Satan?
jeremy thequartering hambly
We need to have Satan back.
unidentified
Well, it's a weird dynamic, right?
It's like, first of all, you have to have horrible parents that put you in the industry, force you in the industry, then you get abused by the people that are in the industry, then as a child... And leave you alone and isolate you, like all the stories of what happened to Justin Bieber... Oh, you know stuff happened to him, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Puff Daddy, him and Puff Daddy.
unidentified
Not Puff Daddy, but there's...
- There's also the other guy, Usher.
Yeah, Usher and Justin Bieber.
As little kids were literally sent to Pete Diddy's house.
- To get groomed essentially. - And Usher came out and he was like, I would not send my kids there.
The things I saw, the things that I was- - On Howard Stern he said that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
- Hey, by the way, since I always like to give people recommendations, I'm not involved with this, but Last Stop in Yuma County, just watch it.
Excellent movie.
There are, my point is there are good movies out there.
And then there's a show called From, which is on MGM.
unidentified
That's a great, great show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's awesome!
unidentified
It's a great show.
Yeah, it's like, um... No politics, it's just, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's like, what, like, okay, yeah.
unidentified
It's like the new Lost.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Is this the one where they're in the town and they're stuck there?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I hate that show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Really?
Oh, I love it!
unidentified
It's the new Lost.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Why do you hate it?
tim pool
Because it's the new Lost.
unidentified
Well, I voted for the bad ending.
tim pool
I never saw Lost.
Let me tell you what From is.
It's like the guy's walking down the street and then he looks on the ground and he sees like a coin with a symbol on it and he's like, what is this?
And then you don't find out ever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And you're like, okay.
unidentified
And that's what, yeah, Lost is that.
Wait, you find out?
tim pool
No, you don't.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They just keep changing things and there's no explanation to anything that's going on.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And every episode- Are you talking about The Ruins?
unidentified
What?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Are you talking about the runes?
unidentified
No, he's just saying, like, they'll introduce a premise.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, the premise.
unidentified
They'll just introduce a premise and then, like, abandon it, just like they lost it.
tim pool
Here's what I like in a TV show.
I like a TV show where they're, like, the show is about a group of people who are stranded on another, on an alien planet, and an alien species is at war with them, and then we're gonna write based off what the conflict is gonna look like and how it evolves.
From and Lost are, like, Let's just start with there's a small town and then we'll figure it out.
And then every episode they just say, oh, I know.
How about like a dinosaur shows up?
But then like, you know, that's it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And I guess I'm not jaded because I didn't see Lost.
I like it.
unidentified
I'm with you a hundred percent, Tim.
I know where you're going.
Like when they got into the time travel with Lost, it was like jumping the shark.
tim pool
What is from about?
What's from about?
unidentified
It's about a group of people trapped, you know, driving somewhere, get trapped inside of a town.
They don't know why.
They can't leave.
At night, you know, monsters come out and attack them.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
What season are you on?
There's only two.
unidentified
We're well past the monsters now.
tim pool
Now there's the nightmare dreams.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh yeah, those are real.
unidentified
I'm just saying, I'm just trying to get like the, yeah.
I watch far too literally.
tim pool
The initial premise.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No you don't.
tim pool
If the story was from, you drive into this town, you can't leave.
At night, monsters looking like your loved ones kill you.
I was like, that's a great premise.
Now it's like, there's an ancient ruin and she travels through the woods and there's weird symbols and the monsters are no longer.
unidentified
There's an invisible castle.
tim pool
It's just like, dude, You know how I imagine they wrote from there's like a seven-year-old kid and they just have him in a room with and they press record and he's like and then when they go in the tree they transport but then there's there's bugs and the bugs will kill you don't listen to Tim guys we can't we can't say though we don't agree though Tim like no no politics You know what I mean?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Every position of authority is a non-white individual and the white people are generally bad on that show, but other than that, that's normal.
unidentified
The bad guys are dressed like they're from the 50s or whatever, like 50s milkmen or whatever.
tim pool
I liked the show, but then after like, especially with season two, I was like, guys, you need to tell us what the show is about.
And there's cool things in it, like they execute a guy by leaving him outside.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's their fault watching the next episode, Tim.
tim pool
That's why it's awful, because I like stories.
I like stories.
unidentified
Yeah, to Tim's point, The Lost did get into this and they did write themselves in the corners where, you know, it was really hard to get out of.
And like I said, the time travel really went over the edge.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm looking for support from chat.
I'm not getting it.
I like the show.
Maybe it's bad.
unidentified
I'm with Jeremy.
I'm with Jeremy.
But I also understand where you're saying, Tim, like they are kind of writing themselves into an issue.
tim pool
No, they're just writing whatever they want.
So what happens is, okay, now she finds a lighthouse and she goes into it, ooh, I know, let's like, ooh, there's a music box.
And then he hears the sound, but then the sound's gone!
And then the next episode they're like, ooh, I know, let's put like a, ooh, there's bugs and they're gonna get ya.
And then some writer's sitting in the room and he goes, should we address the music box?
And they throw him out the window.
unidentified
So I want to ask you guys this question because I watch far less TV than you guys, but if I had to start a new season, what season would you guys recommend that I watch of the best show out there that promotes the best values?
tim pool
Best values?
jeremy thequartering hambly
What's the best current show?
tim pool
Oh dude, have you guys watched Evil?
unidentified
No, I haven't.
It got woke.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
It's so woke and cringe.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I loved it because it was like, oh, it's kind of like X-Files, Exorcism.
I like that.
And then it was like, I'm a strong, independent woman.
I have five kids.
tim pool
It's always been woke.
The first season, the bad guy is like, I'm going to red pill you, and you can go buy a gun.
And it's like, okay, dude.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And then they did have a BLM moment thing, where he got racially profiled.
But I was hoping for the best for that show.
I was like, man, I love... I was like, oh, if it's X-Files with demons, I was like... Then they just stopped doing exorcisms.
tim pool
And now it's about... She had a baby.
And the baby is the devil.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Luke, I guess I would... Another baby.
So what's the best current show now that someone should start?
I guess what I would say is Maybe Sunny.
It's Rashida Jones.
It's like based in Japan, kind of in the future with like... And it's called Maybe Sunny?
No, it's called Sunny.
tim pool
Yeah, that's why you got to watch foreign shows.
unidentified
Yeah, she's totally culturally appropriated in Japanese culture, which is great.
And, you know, they have these home robots that could be dangerous.
We don't know yet.
It just started, so I'm not going to go all out there.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What's that Last Man on Earth?
Is that okay?
I was meant to watch it, where there's only a few people left.
tim pool
That's an old show, right?
Like 10 years ago?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I guess I don't, I'm always watching shows after they're done.
I generally don't watch them like brand new because I don't, I like to just get through it, you know?
unidentified
Severance.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Severance is great.
unidentified
Great show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Tim, you want to ruin that for me now?
unidentified
So it's, it's actually, it's made by Ben Stiller.
It's really good.
It's like, it's, there's this corporation that has this technology where they can put a chip in your head.
tim pool
Oh, right.
To separate your consciousness.
unidentified
Yeah.
So when you're at work, you're one personality when you, when you leave.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Season two in January.
Season one was great.
unidentified
Yeah, it's been like three years though.
They've made everyone wait so long.
tim pool
There's only been one season?
I heard about that a while ago.
It's an Apple TV show.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's very good and you don't need to worry about cliffhanger.
unidentified
No politics.
And it's a really cool idea.
It also brings in the slavery of work.
You know, they've imprisoned these people in their job and they can never leave.
tim pool
You know what show I liked but it got cancelled?
Was it The Order?
Did you ever see that one?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No.
tim pool
It was one of the first attempts at making a show where communists were the bad guys.
I'm kidding by the way, but it's like werewolves versus vampires or something and witches, I don't really remember.
unidentified
One show that I watched.
tim pool
Real quick, the main villain was a college professor communist.
And so I was like, I actually want to see what this goes.
They canceled it.
Netflix canceled it after two seasons.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I wonder why.
Netflix does that all the time.
Like Hannibal too.
Hannibal is one that hurts so bad.
Criminal Minds or whatever.
That one hurts too.
unidentified
You was another one that could have been good, but they went way over the woke ship.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He literally talks about toxic masculinity in the show.
unidentified
Do you have any recommendations, Jeremy?
And for me personally?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Watch The Last Stop in Yuma County.
It's a movie.
I thought it was really good.
Ultra small budget.
Practical effects.
It's like, uh, It's like the premise itself.
You wait two hours for the payoff, but it's worth it, I'll say.
unidentified
I remember watching Jericho.
That was a pretty interesting, old kind of series.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If you like old stuff, I mean, Justify is one of my all-time favorite series.
unidentified
But I was absolutely enthralled with Utopia on Amazon.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, that was good.
unidentified
And I really, really enjoyed that.
tim pool
Oh, what's that show?
I can't remember the name.
It's on Amazon Prime, and it's the dude who What was he in?
He was in Teen Titans.
unidentified
You know what I'm talking about?
tim pool
Chat's gonna know exactly what I'm talking about.
He plays like the former military guy and he comes and shows up to the town.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Why can't I- Oh, uh, Reacher?
tim pool
Yes!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Reacher, Reacher.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Reacher's good.
tim pool
That was good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, for sure.
unidentified
Speaking of which, Titans is good too, by the way.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's like Super Wolf in real life.
tim pool
But they swapped out Starfire.
unidentified
Yeah, I know, that was the only thing that was weird.
tim pool
She's supposed to be an orange-skinned alien woman.
unidentified
Yeah, with red hair, right, again.
Another red hair goes on.
tim pool
The reason why I take issue with this one specifically When I'm like, you know, look, if someone's going to play a fictional character and it's an actor who's playing make-believe, I really don't care all that much.
But Starfire is an orange-skinned alien and they decided to make it a black woman.
And I'm like, I think that's racist.
unidentified
Yeah, it's almost like kind of like they set up kind of like a Wakanda story with her too, with her sisters and the family fighting.
tim pool
They're basically like all of these aliens, all these, uh, what planet is she from?
unidentified
I forget.
But her family comes down.
It's like a civil war within the family for the throne.
tim pool
But they're all black.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I see it now.
I'm like, yeah, everyone's black in the world.
Then I go outside and I'm like, where are all the black people?
tim pool
No, no, it's not that.
In Teen Titans, they were like, we could make orange-skinned aliens like the comic book says, but how about we make all the aliens black people?
And I'm like, don't you think that's kind of racist?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, unintentionally.
unidentified
It's infantilizing.
You know, that's what it is.
And it's like, you know, again, there's so many characters out there.
Blade was an amazing movie.
Blade was incredible.
You know, Ryan Reynolds in that.
Obviously, Wesley Snipes, just amazing.
I know, I get it.
But the first one is you can still you could.
Yeah.
But the point is there's there are characters there.
You're talking about shoehorn.
You can make black superheroes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
You don't have to spawn.
Why don't we have a sweet killer spawn movie?
unidentified
Mm hmm.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You know, like, we have, I think, the 190s.
But, like, give me a Spawn movie.
Like, I'd watch a hell of a lot of that.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Are you going to go see the new Deadpool, Jeremy?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't pay movies.
I don't pay movie theaters.
tim pool
Oh, I love going to movies and hanging out.
unidentified
You're the problem.
tim pool
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Deadpool and Wolverine.
I stopped.
It's a sad story.
I love the MCU since it started.
They did it really, really well.
DC screwed everything up, and I like DC more than Marvel, which sucks.
But what Marvel did was like, hey, we're going to make an Iron Man movie.
And then we want to promote the next movie.
So at the end credits, we're going to do a promo for the next movie.
And then they realized, hey, you know, this kind of connects all of them into one universe.
And so, you can clearly tell they weren't planning on doing the Infinity Stones saga right away, but then adapted it, as evidenced by in Thor, when the Infinity Gauntlet is just seen in the background in the room with the stones in it.
They didn't realize what they were gonna do with it.
But then, at some point, right before, I believe it was Infinity War, Or actually, was it after?
When did Captain Marvel come out?
Was that after or before?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Before Infinity War, right before it.
unidentified
That's your fave.
tim pool
Right, right, because she was in Infinity War.
And that's when they destroyed everything.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Everything fell apart, yeah.
tim pool
They were like, we're going woke, baby!
And then they burnt everything to the ground.
And now the MCU is just total garbage and not worth watching at all.
And the movies have just, they're starting to fail.
They're not making money anymore.
And they're wondering why that is.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, if you had, like, by the way, if you're out there, Hollywood, there's a market.
Satan.
Dear Satan, there's a market for people out there who have, during lockdowns, like me, built a really nice home theater.
I will pay $30 to stream Deadpool.
They did that during the lockdowns?
unidentified
I don't like it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, well, see my theater once.
unidentified
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
Well, your theater is probably amazing, Jared.
I'm just talking about, as far as the economy goes, I don't like the fact that they put this out there where families can stream now.
It's good for the families, let me take it back.
It's good for the families, not good for the theaters.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Theaters are dead.
I'm telling you, in five years, they're gone.
unidentified
So if you care anything about that, you know, the theater economy, does it play into, you know, the rest of the economy?
You know, it's like an ecosystem, right?
You take one thing out, you take another thing out.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I want to watch it at home the day it comes out in my underwear so I can pause it while I take a leak.
I have a popcorn machine that I bought for like a hundred dollars.
It tastes just like the movie theater.
tim pool
Better than the movie theater.
You put real butter on it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, my wife makes it.
She's got it all dialed in.
I sit there and watch my boxer.
I gotta pause it, leave, someone call, whatever.
That's how I watch every movie and I'll pay 30 bucks to do it.
unidentified
I knew when they did that there was no going back.
Once you did that it was done.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I like going to the movies.
unidentified
See?
Tim likes it.
tim pool
Well, it's because I don't have a 40... Tim likes to get out of his house.
I don't have a 50-foot TV screen with surround sound, Dolby, whatever, you know?
unidentified
And the IMAX is still really cool.
tim pool
That being said, Dune was so bad, I'm glad I didn't go to the theaters to see it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Which one?
tim pool
Dune.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, Dune.
I never... I don't want to piss people off, but I did not like... I'm not a Dune guy.
unidentified
Me neither.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I watched it and I was like, this is boring.
And I was like, I didn't even watch a second one.
unidentified
Same for me and Game of Thrones though.
Sorry.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm not saying it's bad.
unidentified
I loved it.
I loved Game of Thrones and I saw Doom 2 and 4DX in a movie theater and it was awesome.
It was incredible.
Luke is the target.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, he's pandering.
unidentified
No, I'm serious.
I loved Game of Thrones.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He told me last night he thought Game of Thrones was trash.
unidentified
No.
Lies.
Lies.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Blasphemy, fake news, disinformation.
tim pool
Luke said that he loved the last two seasons and didn't care for the earlier part.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
The earlier part were great, too, but the last two seasons were fine, and they were great, and they were different.
They were different.
Everyone expected a Hollywood ending, and this is my most unpopular take, and I don't care, and I will die on this sword.
They made it different, and they made you surprised at the end.
tim pool
I appreciate that.
A dragon flew from the south of the country to the north in, like, an hour.
Spare me.
That writing was trash.
unidentified
Well, this is my argument with Star Wars prequels too.
It's the same thing.
It's so much dialogue.
Like Star Wars was about the special effects.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How they looking now though?
How they looking now, Sean?
unidentified
I don't know.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How those prequels looking now?
unidentified
No, I think they're...
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're looking pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah, Jar Jar Binks.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're looking pretty good.
The whole world owes Jar Jar Binks an apology.
tim pool
Fair, fair, fair.
Have you ever seen the video where the guy says they named the movies all wrong?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he goes through renaming all of them.
But using the actual names they made for the movies, he just put them in the correct order?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, Star Wars is one of the saddest IP blunders ever.
They make this incredible intellectual property that everybody loves, and then they continually just take a dump on it.
The books, the extended universe, were good writers who were expanding the universe in really interesting ways.
George Lucas makes this movie, and it's pretty flat.
And I don't mean that as an insult.
I mean, you get a very surface level understanding of all these things, you don't really know what's going on, and then writers come in and say, we're going to fill in these gaps and create lore by what's going on.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Nobody else does that, by the way.
unidentified
It was about the action, by the way.
tim pool
And then you get the prequels, which were a bit goofy, but after this... I mean, Clone Wars was good, and then with the Disney takeover, Force Awakens, The Last Jedi... I will tell you this, the worst movie ever made, in my opinion, is The Last Jedi.
I can watch an Amazon Prime $10,000 budget horror film that's filmed only in one hotel.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Velocipaster.
tim pool
But it's bad and it's funny and it entertains you.
The Last Jedi is just like the cringest broken nonsensical garbage.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How did they make Rogue One?
unidentified
Most importantly, they got rid of the most important character, Jar Jar Binks, okay?
Where's Jar Jar Binks?
We need him back.
I want him back.
I loved him.
I used to say he was racist, right?
Didn't they say Jar Jar was racist?
We need him back immediately!
It's like, who's the racist?
Like, no one said this guy was black or anything.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They said he was like, Jamaican or something.
He was blue, wasn't he?
tim pool
They ruined Star Trek 2, to be fair.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, they did.
tim pool
They ruined all of it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Dude, George Lucas is going to buy back the IP for pennies on the dollar.
It's a perfect world.
I'm not saying it's the best movie ever, but Rogue One is good, in my opinion.
How did Disney make Rogue One where it's like, hey, here's a normal, good Star Wars story, The Force Awakens was just a remake of the original, anyway.
tim pool
Shot for shot.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Shot for shot remake.
It's just a remake, so they didn't have to recreate anything.
Then they have TFA, which is a disaster.
Then they have a Star Wars story.
tim pool
The Force Awakens was the remake.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The Force Awakens was the remake, yeah, but everything they've made.
All the Disney Plus shows, although, um, you know, maybe you could say Ahsoka was okay, but like, I didn't watch any of it.
You saw The Mandalorian though.
That was okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
Mandalorian was good.
And then they fired Gina Crono for no reason.
Dude, I can't do this anymore.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I stopped watching after that.
She was supposed to get her own show.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Like, yeah.
unidentified
And she's great.
Like, and, um, you know, good for the Daily Wire, but yeah, they're not making it for the audience anymore.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's going to get a hundred million from Disney.
She's going to win that lawsuit.
unidentified
They're not making it for the audience, they're making it for the awards, and the only way to get the awards is to Virtue Signal.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Jack Blackson.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're going to have to fire Jack Black because he was on the Mandalorian and he said something.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good point.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's going to use that.
tim pool
He laughed and cheered for it.
unidentified
I don't know, do you think Jack Blackson is going to get canceled?
I mean, honestly.
tim pool
What do you mean?
jeremy thequartering hambly
He did.
tim pool
He's canceled in the short term.
No, no, he said all future endeavors are on hold.
unidentified
But with Tenacious D. I'm talking about as the guy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, he didn't say with Tenacious D. He said all future creative is on hold.
tim pool
Kyle Gass got dropped from his management team.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's done forever.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
That's crazy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
We don't know if Jack Black is going to be in it.
He could be quiet canceled, too.
unidentified
It could be.
tim pool
It could be.
unidentified
But at the same time, he's saying the quiet part out loud.
You can't tell me people in Hollywood didn't like what they said.
Most people in the industry don't care.
tim pool
They don't care about Trump, they don't care about anything.
They're saying what they think they need to say to make money.
unidentified
Well, they definitely care, they just can't say anything.
I know a lot of actors that have been on set.
There's this wild story I was told once, an actor was on set, and this was just in the start of the woke takeover.
You know, he was on set, he made some off-colored remarks, something like super innocent, I forget what it was, but one of the grips was crying and he had to then go and find the grip and apologize to her in front of the entire team.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I feel like I covered this story.
I'm not going to out the person, but I covered it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I don't want to name names.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm pretty sure it came out public.
I think I covered it, but don't say it.
unidentified
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, I covered it.
It was like a struggle session for him to apologize in front of the entire staff and crew for saying a mean, sexist thing, which wasn't even bad.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was milquetoast.
unidentified
It was very milquetoast, but that culture has been trending that way.
All I'm saying with Jack Black is he kind of looks like a hero to some of these people, honestly, behind the scenes.
tim pool
Doesn't matter.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Borderlands 2, by the way.
He's in that movie.
tim pool
Jack Black is not going to be able to be in movies because the insurance companies are going to say no.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Just wait to see.
He's in Borderlands 2, which comes out... Borderlands 1, you mean.
Or Borderlands the movie.
tim pool
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's... Watch what happens to the box office when you lose half the country.
tim pool
Oh yeah, for sure.
You're going to see... People are going to bring that up.
There's going to be these drama bait channels on YouTube, like The Quartering, who react on Jack Black.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He'll make hundreds of videos and the thumbnails will be like...
Viscous fluid on their faces all the time.
unidentified
All I'm saying is if we came out pro-Trump, it would have been way worse.
tim pool
But in all seriousness, for instance, when Jeremy makes videos talking about Jack Black's career track, what's happened, and what's going on with the movie, people are going to boycott the movie.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
I always said, look what happened when Aquaman came out.
I said, look at every post they tried to make to promote that movie was flooded with people talking, saying junk about Amber Heard.
Every post.
They could not advertise that movie, and that's what's going to happen to Borderlands.
tim pool
Dude, look at Brie Larson.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
The media tried claiming that it was sexist, it was, you know, it was anti-feminist.
And then you'd watch these interviews she would do.
There was a famous one where it was her and, like, Chris Evans and, uh, I think it might have been Anthony Mackie.
No, it was Don Cheadle.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, Don Cheadle.
tim pool
And then she's just snide, snooty.
She's like, I'm actually the strongest.
I'm the strongest.
unidentified
And you could tell by their, like, non-verbals.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They tried to come out afterwards and say they were just giving her the business.
I'm like, no you weren't.
tim pool
She was supposed to replace Robert Downey Jr.
in the MCU as the main character arc, and they dropped her.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The whole character's gone.
tim pool
Yep.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh yeah, and then when they did- They lost $400 million on Captain Marvel 2.
tim pool
Yeah, and they cut it short.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How long?
90 minutes.
tim pool
Yeah, wow.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And they didn't advertise it.
unidentified
Wow.
The only movie I liked her in was that one that was based on the video game with, uh... Oh God, it was like... Scott Pilgrim.
Scott Pilgrim, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so good having Jeremy here.
tim pool
That was before she went insane.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, you're in my world.
unidentified
Scott Pilgrim was great.
tim pool
Scott Pilgrim was good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She did The Room, that was good too.
tim pool
Yeah, and then she went insane.
And then she started screaming all this feminist garbage.
She got an ego.
She started being condescending.
And the writing along with it, it's not just her fault.
Captain Marvel versus Captain America is one of the greatest cultural shifts to exemplify what's happening.
Captain America is a movie about a scrawny guy with physical defects who can't join the army so he tries lying his way in, jumps on a grenade to save the life of his fellow soldiers in training, and it was a story about a dude who loved his country and wanted to fight Nazis.
Captain Marvel is a woman who always had the power by sheer accident that was suppressed by a man and she robs a guy and steals his clothes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And then they go to a planet in the second one where it's only singing and it's a matriarchal planet where all the women are in charge.
It's unbelievable.
tim pool
That was the Marvels?
I only saw parts of it because it was really bad.
unidentified
That was also Wonder Woman's story too though, right?
tim pool
No, Wonder Woman was good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Wonder Woman was the Amazonian, but that's a matriarchal society.
tim pool
I think that's fine.
I think Gal Gadot was not a snooty, condescending, mean person.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She essayed a man though in the sequel.
tim pool
She what?
jeremy thequartering hambly
She slept with a man and he never got his consent.
In the movie.
And no one cared.
tim pool
The second one wasn't that good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
1984 sucked.
tim pool
Because it was Trump!
Because they were literally just trying to insult Trump.
It's stupid.
The first one was Wonder Woman grew up in the society of moral absolutism where she thought that everything was black and white.
And then she meets Chris Pine's character and he's like, war isn't so simple.
She thinks there's one God who makes war happen.
And then she learns in the end, she was naive.
And I'm like, I actually thought it was a, it was a fun movie.
It was fun to watch.
Wonder Woman's a great character.
And Gal Gadot did a great job.
Then when the trailer for 1984 came out, I was really excited.
The song was great.
The trailer was good.
And then the movie is literally just, It's Donald Trump.
They literally said, like, we wanted to make Trump the bad guy, and I'm like, ugh.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But then that, it's not even like, sometimes it's not even just that.
It's like, when you hear that, you know it's the answer for why everything else sucked.
You're like, if that's their North Star, they can't write good anything.
unidentified
But you said, Tim, like, Bree went crazy, right?
I think it's more calculated than that.
I don't think they're going crazy.
She's still one beautiful woman.
I think they're professionals in their industry.
They see where the industry's going and they try to get ahead of it.
I honestly think, you know, that's what it's about.
It's about the awards.
It's about the next role.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And, you know, again... Did you ever hear Schwarzenegger talking politics?
unidentified
Yes, many times.
tim pool
When he was in a school with the GOAT and he was like, screw your freedom!
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, yeah, that.
But I mean, when he was the biggest star in Hollywood?
No.
Sylvester Stallone?
No.
unidentified
So that's where someone's starting to get into it now.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Tulsa King, he mentions it.
unidentified
Red Pill, Red Pill Stallone.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Tulsa King was pretty good.
unidentified
He was a little late, but gotta give him some credit.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Burgum or whatever, on the nose.
But like Tim said, politics wasn't part of culture then, so these guys never had to say this crap, so you just loved them.
You wouldn't know if Stalin was some loony leftist because someone wasn't putting a mic in front of his face and asking about Trump.
unidentified
Or Schwarzenegger had some very questionable past ties to Germans in World War II.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He did, his dad.
tim pool
Let's take a look at Die Hard, right?
Everybody loves Die Hard.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Christmas movie or not.
tim pool
Exactly.
It's his cultural debate, and it's Bruce Willis is a cop, and he's at a Christmas party climbing through the vents fighting terrorists.
Could you imagine if, like, um... Also Eastern European.
What's, what's, what's the, who's the, uh, Alan Rickman?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Could you imagine if his character was like, I'm a terrorist because white patriarchy is evil.
Or actually, no, no, he's the bad guy.
So he'd be like, white men should be in charge of this country, so I've taken over a building.
You'd be like, ugh.
unidentified
Well, that's the thing, like, they didn't have... He just wanted money!
tim pool
That's all he wanted, he wanted money!
jeremy thequartering hambly
And we all get that!
unidentified
And they didn't have the DEI awards, you know, you got an award for a good story.
tim pool
By the way, the female character was strong, his wife was like a... Bruce Willis, if they made it today, Bruce Willis would be played by a black woman, and they would get a short, fat, white guy to play the terrorist with a squeaky voice, and he'd be complaining about how racial diversity has ruined his business because he used to sell, like, you know, I don't know, American flags or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Too bad.
I mean, man, too bad.
Shout out Bruce Willis, man.
What a great career.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Mental decline is tough.
unidentified
Yeah, I didn't know why they were posting those videos.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I hated it.
unidentified
That was weird.
jeremy thequartering hambly
People said that was for the fans.
I was like, man, that's like elder abuse.
unidentified
Yeah, it's totally elder abuse.
Also, you know what's going to happen on social media, like if you've ever been on social media, you know what I mean?
I didn't like that.
Just let them go out gracefully.
Yeah, that was bizarre.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
He's got some great movies, too, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
Most of his are.
I was actually talking about this the other day.
Here we go.
As I was saying, I was talking about this the other day with Taylor Hanson and Josh from Tenet, but I'm forgetting his name.
Denzel.
That's L.A.
political.
Amazing actor.
He had the best roles.
Just fantastic.
He took on the sci-fi roles.
Nick Cage.
Nick Cage.
jeremy thequartering hambly
By the way, long legs.
I'm telling you, I'll give you a seal of approval.
It's awesome.
If you like thriller, thriller, it's like a crime thriller, serial killer movie.
It's out right now and you can see it in the theater.
Nick Cage plays a serial killer, and they didn't show the main actress's face until she had a scene with him.
unidentified
Even the one where he was making fun of himself is fantastic.
Oh, that was so good!
jeremy thequartering hambly
The unbearable weight of whatever.
unidentified
He won't make fun of himself, and that's what I love about Nick Cage.
tim pool
And Pedro Pascal is kind of like Woke and Cringe, but that movie was really good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Go see Pig, too.
That's another really good Nick Cage movie.
tim pool
I'm going to spoil that movie about Nick Cage, though, because I just love this one scene in the movie so much.
So the story is for those that haven't seen it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's been out for years.
tim pool
Yeah, it's been out for years.
Is that he gets recruited to try and like, I don't know, get evidence against a cartel drug lord.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Who's a super fan, yeah.
tim pool
Played by Pedro Pascal because he's a fan.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
And so Nick Cage, who's playing himself, is like lurking around the island and he comes to this like door and he's gonna go in to sneak inside to try and find evidence and then all of a sudden he hears Pedro Pascal's character being like, don't do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like, I have to.
He's like, if you go into that room it will change everything between us.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
And he's like, I have to.
And when he opens it up, it's just a super fanboy room of all of Nick Cage's props from his movies.
unidentified
Eddie loves it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He has his guns from, um, uh, what movie was, um, he has his guns from whatever movie.
Yeah, yeah.
It was a little long, but it was great.
unidentified
Also, Keanu Reeves, another guy that really stayed the course.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Stop making Matrix movies.
unidentified
Stop making John Wick movies, dude.
That last John Wick was pretty fun to watch.
The last John Wick was great.
tim pool
There was no story!
unidentified
I don't care.
I want to see the tactical stuff.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was two hours of rolling down stairs.
A blind guy is the bad guy?
Give me a break.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
You're wrong, Jeremy.
We should praise the mindless action movie.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I know, I know.
I reviewed it.
I said it's a good popcorn film.
tim pool
Exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
And I paid to see it in the theater and I liked it.
tim pool
Do you guys remember that movie that Bruce Willis was in called, I can't remember what it was called.
It was where his wife gets murdered and then he buys a gun and then, um... Die Hard?
No, no, no, no, this is recent.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, um, they remake, um, Death Wish?
tim pool
Death Wish!
Was that what it was?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, they had a little bit of a, it's easy to get guns thing in that.
tim pool
The left slammed the movie and gave it bad ratings calling it a gun nut masturbation film.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was like, it's a guy whose wife was murdered and then he, like, buys a gun to protect his house.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's a revenge movie.
tim pool
But they come back for him, he doesn't go for them!
And it was just a popcorn flick, the audience loved it because it was just entertainment to watch a guy, there's no deep message in it, and the woke media, the liberal anti-gun media was angry that a guy used a gun to protect his family.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Can I give up my all time favorite recent popcorn film?
I know a lot of this isn't going to be a deep cut because a lot of people saw it, but if you haven't seen it and you like John Wick, the moves you're talking about, watch Nobody.
unidentified
Oh, it's so what I'm going to say.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Upgrade or Nobody.
unidentified
There's so Roadhouse.
tim pool
What's Nobody?
I think is that Bob Odenkirk?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
unidentified
It's so good.
That was good.
That was good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That scene where he's like in that thing and he's, the guy sees the, I think, whatever the two of spades or whatever.
He's like in there.
tim pool
I gotta watch it again.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's like, he walks in looking for information.
He's got a big wad of cash and he's like, only two people walk around waving around cheese like that.
And like, he's at a tattoo parlor and then there's some old timer Vietnam vet like catches sight of his tattoo and he like goes behind a locked door.
He's like, thank you for your service.
I was like, that is a That's the coolest scene.
unidentified
Roadhouse with Jake Gyllenhaal and Conor McGregor, right?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I did not see it.
unidentified
Conor McGregor was great in it.
tim pool
You gotta watch Nightcrawler.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I love Nightcrawler.
tim pool
It's like a 10 year old movie now, I think.
unidentified
He's like an EMT, right?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, a photo guy.
tim pool
Journalists are sociopaths.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, I see a theme with movies you like.
tim pool
So not every local reporter is staging crime scenes and killing people to get the shot or whatever, but I like Nightcrawler because Jake Gyllenhaal plays this perfect sociopath who basically organizes death and destruction to get the story.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Which is a gross exaggeration of what journalists do.
unidentified
They come close.
tim pool
But watch Civil War, and Luke knows this too.
In the movie Civil War, there's a scene where an armored personnel carrier is just opening fire.
I don't know if it's an APC, but whatever you want to call it.
It's like a .50 cal full auto decimating a building.
People are dying, and then the older guy looks to the younger girl, and he smiles and nods, and she smiles and nods back like they love that stuff.
Dude, When they say, if it bleeds, it leads, I have been on the ground with so many of these reporters who, they just, they may as well be, I'm gonna be family friendly, they may as well be working it to watching Death and Destruction.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, yeah.
By the way, Oz, before we go too far down the rabbit hole too, also Creep 1 and 2, I'll recommend as good non-woke films worth watching.
unidentified
Lord of War was another one.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Lord of War was good, Nick Cage.
unidentified
Oh yeah!
That was an incredible one, that really highlighted the industry.
tim pool
The opening scene, right, with the bullet trap?
Yeah, love it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, that's one of the best openers.
They don't do that anymore.
unidentified
Thank You for Smoking was a good one too.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a good one too.
unidentified
I like that one as well.
Any other movie recommendations from you guys?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Anything by Wes Anderson.
Literally anything.
unidentified
No, are you?
Wes Anderson?
Wait, wait, wait.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Length of Aquatic.
Amazing.
Royal Tenenbaums.
unidentified
Royal Tenenbaums was good only because of the cast.
Why do you like those movies?
They're amazing.
I don't get the appeal.
Masterpiece.
Give me something, Jeremy.
Tell me.
What is it?
What is it about them?
I like movies that are about...
It's not like I'm the only one.
Seemingly plotless.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's not like I'm the only one.
unidentified
I think you might be the only one here.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Dude, I guarantee people in chat are supporting Wes Anderson.
unidentified
Okay, I guarantee you they're not because it's some wild stuff.
It's very uppity.
It's very like... No, it's not.
...elitist.
What?
If you don't think this is a good film, you're an elitist.
Press 1 if you're with the quarter and press 2 if you're with the point.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, you're talking about maybe the fans.
The movies aren't like that.
unidentified
Those movies are terrible.
And yeah, the Royal Tenet bombs was literally the only one that was good.
It's so weird when people say...
jeremy thequartering hambly
Dude, you watched Life Aquatic and you thought that wasn't good?
unidentified
Bill Murray, first of all, I have a whole thing on Bill Murray.
I can't stand him.
I don't know why he was funny.
I don't know why Saturday Night Live liked him at all.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, Wes Anderson, movies are great.
Steve Zissou, I told you.
unidentified
What about Bob?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Chats with me.
unidentified
Suck it.
Okay, well, I disagree with them, too.
No, Bill Murray, I think, was always propped up.
I never thought he was funny.
I don't think he did anything that was good outside of maybe Ghostbusters 1.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You're just saying insane things now.
You're rage baiting.
unidentified
No, I'm not at all.
I'm not rage baiting at all.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You didn't think Bill Murray was funny in Stripes or Groundhog Day?
unidentified
No, I don't get the appeal.
These are iconic films.
I thought Groundhog Day was a good plot.
But do I think Bill Murray was good in it?
No.
And they still prop him out now.
They still bring him out and he's like... Now he's getting a little handsy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Something happened on that last movie.
unidentified
Something happened.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I didn't like that.
Yeah, I didn't like to hear that.
unidentified
Sorry, Chad.
Bill Murray sucked and so does... Chad's also crushing you on that.
tim pool
What did you think about the new Ghostbusters?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Sucked.
tim pool
You didn't like it?
I liked it.
unidentified
It was... I haven't seen the new, new one.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, the Frozen Empire.
unidentified
Yeah, I haven't seen that one.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was like... Look.
It was... I like Paul Rudd.
tim pool
Making Egon's granddaughter gay was kind of weird.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I didn't like that and it was too much of the movie.
tim pool
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But like, here's the biggest problem with me.
I gave it like a 6 or 7.
I would have given it an 8 if they spent all that time on that cool big bat and they defeat him immediately.
I wanted to see more of him.
tim pool
That's what kind of irked me is like, you spend thousands of years trapped in an ancient bronze trap and the first thing you do is run head first into an enemy with weapons to defeat you.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
He could have just left and then raised an army and then froze the world.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't get it.
Yeah, that part, I was like, look, I actually, you know, like, look, it wasn't woke.
I think they were respectful to their history.
By the way, shout out Ernie Hudson, like, on, like, Black Don't Crack, dude.
Yeah, like, he's standing next to Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd, who are like skin and bones.
tim pool
Ernie Hudson looks like- No, no, Dan Aykroyd's not skin and bones.
unidentified
He's really big.
jeremy thequartering hambly
His skin's falling off.
I'm like, Ernie Hudson, if you told me he was 40, I'd believe you.
tim pool
Yeah, he's like 70-something.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, and he had the cool arc where he was like a tech company.
I like that.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it's great.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I like Dan Aykroyd running his oddities thing because that's probably what he would do in the world.
I thought they were more respectful, but I was so Blueballed by seeing this cool big bad.
I was like man.
We're look how much time they spent on the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man They spent less time on this guy who is supposed to be I mean Stay Puft was a joke this guy is supposed to be an ender civilizations like Ghostbusters 2 wasn't as good as one I still like it.
tim pool
I agree.
But Viggo was cool.
unidentified
He was cool.
tim pool
Viggo gave me nightmares.
The bad guys in those movies were having a consistent and persistent effect throughout the film that built up to the point.
And they tried doing that, I think, with Three, with the sphere doing things, releasing the Possessor.
They didn't.
They didn't actually have the big bad doing the thing.
It's only after he gets out, he immediately just fights them and loses?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I paid to see it in the theater, just so Chad knows I'm being honest.
I went to the theater, I paid it, I bought the $40 popcorn bucket, and it's on my set.
So, don't, like, I don't want to pretend like I didn't like it, because I'm a go- like, for people who are Star Wars people, or Star Trek people, I'm a Ghostbusters person.
So, like, it was never going to be bad, but I was so bummed.
I was like, dude, that guy's so cool, and then he's gone.
tim pool
I'll bring this all full circle as we're getting close to wrapping up.
I do feel like we are starting to win the culture war.
Disney is in panic.
Marvel movies are being made fun of because they don't make money anymore.
They're saying, oh, the MCU is dead.
And it's like, it doesn't have to be.
It's just that you guys suck.
You've changed the formula for what the movie was and turned it into Captain Marvel.
It was Captain America before, but now it's Captain Marvel.
Nobody wants to watch that.
So I think what we're seeing now is, especially with... You don't want to see Captain Africa?
No, I would watch that.
Like, look.
Mackie sucks, man.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't like him.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Oh, you're talking about the new movie that's coming out.
I'm saying quite literally if they made a Captain Africa movie, a Marvel hero, as long as it's a hero's journey.
Oh yeah, that's fine.
I'm fine with it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I like Black Panther.
tim pool
I thought Black Panther was actually hilarious.
Let's take one minute to point out Black Panther 2, which I'm sure everyone here has seen.
Has everyone seen it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I didn't see the second one.
unidentified
Oh, dude!
tim pool
You didn't see the second one?
Let me tell you what that one's about.
So Wakanda's got a force field around it so nobody can get in.
They've got secure borders.
And one day the Queen and the daughter are sitting by the river when they get attacked by Mexicans.
I'm not exaggerating.
We're being disrespectful.
And she's like, how did they get through the barrier?
They went in the river.
They went under the water and came out.
unidentified
Whoa!
jeremy thequartering hambly
Wait, like Texas?
tim pool
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
And the bad guy, who is Namor, he's, you know, he's Central American, like, mestizo.
Yeah.
And they figure, they're fighting him, and they're like, how is he so strong?
It's because he's amphibious.
The water on his skin is oxidizing along with the air he's breathing, allowing him extra strength, so they figure out to defeat him.
They blast him in the back with a jet, which dries his back off, and it singes, and then he's weak, and they win the fight.
I am not kidding.
She jumps over him.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I feel like you're making all this up right now.
tim pool
Bro, she jumps over him, and there's a crashed ship behind him, and she presses a button, and it blasts his back with jet, and then it shows his back, steam coming off of it, singeing, and he goes, I'm watching it.
And I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
The bad guy was a Mexican dude whose back had to be dried off to be defeated.
- Oh, I didn't even get that word yet. - They thought that was a good message.
And he breaks into Wakanda by going through the river.
- I'm watching it. - And to open the barrier, how do the Wakandans open the barrier?
They bang on bongo drums.
I'm like, these people are nuts racist.
Holy crap!
unidentified
But the woke are racist.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm gonna watch it today, I can't wait.
tim pool
So my point was before, I do think we're starting to see things get better, but we'll start to wrap things up.
Before we go, Jeremy, do you want to shout anything out?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hey, I do a live show on YouTube and Rumble every day at 1 o'clock Eastern.
I talk about a lot of this stuff, actually.
So, if you get a chance, follow me on Rumble or on Quartercast and tune in.
I'd love to see you at 1 o'clock Eastern.
unidentified
I don't talk about any of this stuff at all, ever.
You did today, Luke.
I did today, but I talk about the more kind of deeper, more sinister, darker aspects of this that are really kind of black pills.
If you want more black pills, get them on Rumble.com forward slash WeAreChange and YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange.
Guys, check out Tenet Media.
Go to atwatchtenetnow on Twitter.
We have really good projects, really good people.
Where?
Atwatchtenetnow.
tim pool
On what?
unidentified
Tenet Media.
tim pool
Yeah, where was that?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I never heard of that.
unidentified
What website?
How did you guys have big bucks?
Tenetmedia.
tim pool
What?
Follow them on what website?
unidentified
On X. Did I say Twitter?
Did I say Twitter?
Sorry.
Sorry, Elon.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Sometimes things come together.
tim pool
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We do the show every Friday morning and it's fantastic that you guys can come and join us.
We're gonna be live again tonight at 8 p.m.
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