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March 15, 2024 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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The Culture War #55 Judge Sides With Fani Willis, Government Corruption Worsens In US w/ Ben Weingarten & Rob Noerr

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tim pool
Corruption in the DOJ.
Corruption in the federal government.
That's the main topic for what we're gonna be talking about today and going a bit more in depth on the things that we've seen over the past several years.
Notably, with the recent news, the Robert Hur testimony, Joe Biden meeting every criteria of having committed a very serious crime seven years ago will not be charged because he's too stupid today.
Okay, maybe I could be less mean about it because perhaps there's a Biden supporter somewhere listening, but Joe Biden today may be lacking memory, but seven years ago, I don't think you can make that argument.
But of course, they're not going to be criminally charging him.
This morning, we got breaking news that the judge in Georgia is allowing Fannie Willis to stay on the case.
She's going to have to cut ties with her lover, but basically, she gets everything she wants, she gets away with everything that happened, the lies don't matter, and will just carry on.
Many people have said this is the judge attempting to split the baby, which is a perfect analogy because it basically just kills the baby.
So when you're trying to save democracy and then you slice the thing in half, killing it, that's basically what's happened today.
So we will talk about that.
It's big breaking news, but it falls right into the topic which we want to discuss.
I've got two gentlemen here.
Which of you would like to introduce yourself?
unidentified
Yeah, Ben Weingarten, journalist and columnist.
I write at Real Clear Investigations, senior contributor at The Federalist, New York Post, Epoch Times, Newsweek, slew of other places.
I'm also a co-host of the NatCon Squad podcast, and I wrote a book, which we talked about a few years ago, actually, the first time I was here, on Ilhan Omar, called American Ingrate, which was about how she was the future, if not the present, of the Democrat Party, and I think that's proven out.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
And without saying the name of the individual, there was a story that RealClearInvestigations had where they exposed the name of a certain whistleblower, as it were, and YouTube was deleting all of the videos without notice.
So when I actually, and real clear investigations, NewsGuard certified.
You know, that's the premier Microsoft invested news verification services.
They're good.
They're good.
And so I covered that story that you guys reported on, and without telling me, without issuing a strike or anything, the video was just removed from my channel.
This is the level of corruption we're dealing with to protect people who are trying to control politics at a very, very nefarious level.
Good sir, who are you?
unidentified
I am Rob Knorr.
I'm a streamer on Twitch and YouTube.
You can find me at robknorr, N-O-E-R-R on those platforms.
I was a debater in college.
Actually, my job is I do home healthcare.
I do this as a hobby because I lived in rural Pennsylvania my entire life.
I feel like no one speaks up for those people culturally, no one speaks up politically, and I wasn't really good at all the blue collar stuff of the people I love the most.
I happen to be pretty good at talking and debating, so I got into it.
I think I am probably one of the top conservative debaters in the debate sphere.
I enjoy debating people like Destiny all the time, and I think I usually clean up, so.
tim pool
Corruption's my issue, you know? - He's got a viral clip going on right now. - I saw it. - For those that don't know Destiny, the Omni-Liberal, I like the guy, but he, you know, well it's because we've, this is a liberal guy, he calls himself the Omni-Liberal, if you're not familiar with him, and we've had him here several times, we hang out with him.
And the first time he comes, I think he was a little on guard, and then he realized like, oh, okay, like these are legit, like this is not a griff, it's like we're actually having conversations here.
And I agree, we disagree, I admit when I'm wrong, I call him out when he's wrong, we play poker, and, you know, when we're hanging out, he's sincere, and he says, like, here's what I think, and here's why, and it's fascinating, because, uh...
You know, there's a viral clip going around with him right now where he says, no one actually thought that the vaccine would stop transmission.
We all kind of knew.
And you had, you know, it was seven words said by the president.
Dave Smith is like, are you nuts?
Like they all said it.
The CDC, the NIH, everybody was saying this.
And what I find fascinating here is This is a major mistake on his part.
But with Dave Smith, you know what I realized is that Dave Smith and I, as well as most of the guests that come on, we all agree on the facts.
We'll pull up a story, and if the sources seem sound and we can verify it, we'll say, that seems to be true.
We then argue on what it means and what it will become.
Whereas Destiny outright argued the history of something was not correct.
And I'm like, I feel like that's indicative of what we see with the liberals and the left in the establishment right now.
Is...
Whatever the quote-unquote right is, we all will basically agree.
Like, okay, the reporting says this.
Does it seem verifiable?
It seems most likely true.
Okay, we agree on that.
What does that mean?
And then you'll talk to Destiny.
You'll apparently say that no one actually believed the vaccine was really going to stop transmission despite the fact they said it over and over and over again.
But let's shift gears and talk about what's going on with the government corruption.
The targeting of Donald Trump, and we have this story.
We usually don't lead with breaking news, but this is huge news that many of us kind of expected.
Fannie Willis, she is the prosecutor in Fulton County, the district attorney.
She's going to be allowed to stay on the Trump election interference case in Georgia, but only if she cuts ties with her prosecutor lover, Nathan Wade.
Now, let's get some clarification.
Does this mean Nathan Wade can stay on the case as well?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
He's got to be fired.
unidentified
I believe the judge said he- It's either Fawnie Willis or Nathan Lee, so I think we know who's gonna stay and who's gonna go.
Right.
tim pool
So, she's the one who engages in the corruption.
She's the one who has these ridiculous stories about, they went on vacation together, they weren't gifts that, you know, when they were traveling around because she paid him back in cash because she happens to carry about $10,000 in cash with her, typically.
Between, which is like between $3,000 and $10,000.
Highly incredulous, I just, it's ridiculous.
And the judge, I feel like this is a really good example, just to broaden the subject, this is what we tend to see.
You've got the right in this country saying, now let's all be reasonable here, and the left saying, let us terminate the lives of our enemies.
So when it comes to a judge being like, well look, I'm not going to be political here, we're going to let Fannie Willis keep doing whatever she wants.
Which in no way solves the problem of the corruption.
The corruption will now persist, and for what reason do we have to believe that Fannie Willis will act appropriately moving forward if she's already shown she's willing to do this?
There's no accountability here.
My favorite line, Judge Scott, uh, is it McAfee?
Said, an odor of mendacity remained in the case.
And now you have criminal charges against the frontrunner for the 2024 race, The judge will not even- it's- how hard is it to be like, look, just to clear the air and make sure everyone feels this is fair, we're gonna get a different prosecutor and we'll have both of you step aside.
How hard would that be?
He could respectfully say it.
Just to make sure that there's no odor of mendacity and that people feel that this- these trials are sound, we're gonna ask you politely, please step aside and we'll get someone else.
unidentified
No.
Well, you go back, a rich history of this since Trump came in, when you saw Comey and the investigations into the mid-year exam, which was Hillary Clinton, and then you saw the investigation crossfire hurricane, one of the things Comey said when he testified is, we're looking to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, right?
We're looking to avoid that.
Then we find out they illegally spied on Trump, they got fight warrants, so they certainly had that appearance, but it's in every single case.
Like you're saying, wouldn't you, for the sake of healing the country, say, look, we're going to bring someone in that doesn't have any conflict of interest?
The best conflict, by the way, is she's literally accusing Trump of crimes which she's accused of doing.
Racketeering, intimidating witnesses, perjuring herself.
And now she's going to prosecute someone accused of those very crimes.
But the left won't care.
They won't care because to them, their religion is Donald Trump is evil.
So all facts go out the window.
They're willing to put everything else on the back burner.
And so they're willing to accept a corrupt prosecutor because in their heart, they believe Trump is so evil the ends justify the means.
It's also about It's about power at the end of the day, and that's really the hatred of Trump at the end.
And notice that the onslaught against Trump has always emanated from the national security and law enforcement apparatus.
That's the lawfare, the lawfare inquisition, this entire massive RICO case, essentially, across all the different cases against Trump, where they're laundering political warfare through the courts to try and legitimize it.
Same thing here.
The institutions always protect themselves.
If you want to know what the ultimate outcome is going to be, and we already know what the outcomes are going to be and all these things, but if you want to know what the outcome is going to be and you want to understand why the DOJ decides as it does, you talk about Comey.
Go back to Comey and Hillary Clinton.
Well, she clearly committed crimes, but we're going to find an out.
Robert Herr, Joe Biden, Court of Committed Crimes, we're gonna find it out.
It's the same thing every time.
What they do is to protect the institutions, not the Constitution.
And when they talk about democracy, what they mean is their power.
They will always find a way to show, well, look, we did an open and objective fact-finding investigation here, and here's what we found.
And Judge McAfee lets Fawney Willis hang herself, essentially, during those rambling answers that you gave, talking about what her favorite alcohol is, doesn't cut her off.
This is someone who was hired by her, by the way, originally.
This is a company town, and this is the law enforcement apparatus in Fulton County.
The institutions always protect themselves.
They always have to split the baby, because at the end of the day, they're looking out for themselves.
He looks out for her.
Robert Herr looks out for Joe Biden, he's supposed to be the Republican, but it's all about the regime at the end of the day.
The regime always closes ranks and always protects itself.
And that's why they have to go after Trump, and every lawyer in his orbit, and then all the conservative groups ultimately, and then have to have a censorship industrial complex to shut down any dissenters, because it's all about protecting their power, their gravy train.
tim pool
It's not really splitting the baby.
If we were, if he said, if the judge said, Fonny Willis, I'm just going to ask you to step aside so that we can bring in someone so there's no appearance of bias.
That's splitting the baby.
Because the right position would be perjury charges, disbarment, etc.
The right's not even arguing for a counter position to the left's position.
And I've been bringing this up quite a bit.
The right never does.
Twitter is a really great example.
X. They reinstate the misgendering policy.
The conservatives bang the table and say, you shouldn't ban anyone.
But the counter position would be to ban people who use preferred pronouns.
The left says ban them if they don't use preferred pronouns.
The counterpoint is ban them if they do.
Instead, the right argues from the moderate position.
Their moderate position here in Fonnie Willis would be, Fonnie Willis should be removed from the case.
Where are the people to say, lock her up?
unidentified
Well, like I'll give you an example of this, right?
You remember when Roger Stone was like looking at what, like 10 years in prison or something crazy?
tim pool
They raided his house at four in the morning.
CNN's waiting.
unidentified
And so Bill Barr comes out like a hero, like he's wearing a Superman cape and he's like, hey, I'm gonna step up here.
We're going to say only two years.
Meanwhile, at the exact same time, a grand jury had recommended charges against James Comey for lying.
For lying to law enforcement about taking classified information, right?
What was Bill Barr's recommendation for Comey?
Zero.
Even though the grand jury recommended charges, he says, no, I'm going to decline.
And right-wingers celebrated, like, yeah, we did it, man!
Our guy only recommended Two years for the guy on the right.
Those things, I don't understand how anyone could look me in the straight face.
Like, look, I understand these cases are difficult.
You got a full-time job.
You're not looking into these things.
How Republican, Democrat, I don't care.
In 2016, when Trump won the election, and at that point, the highest ranking person in the opposition party, Chuck Schumer, goes on Rachel Maddow's show and says, if Donald Trump criticizes the FBI, an agency that he will be in charge of, they will find six ways on Sunday of getting back at him, which is exactly what they already were.
Right?
How didn't everybody in America say, wait, excuse me?
The most powerful elected leader in the world has to be fearful of the agencies he has power over?
But we all know that's the case.
And so when you say protecting the brand, that's exactly what it is.
They don't even care if Trump would be for or against them.
Heck, if they would have sucked up to Trump, maybe he would have just went along with them anyway.
tim pool
I think Trump, when he comes in, these guys go up to him and say, you let us know what you want to do.
We got your back.
And then as soon as he leaves the room and they're like, okay, now how do we destroy him?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
And even people on our side, so-called.
And that's, at the end of the day, to crystallize the difference that you're talking about, isn't the counterposition the actual opposite of what they're doing?
And by the way, that's how you stop the corruption.
You say, we're going to fight fire with fire.
We're going to fight you exactly as hard as you fight us.
Hold on!
tim pool
Fire with water?
How about there's a fire and we throw water on it?
Instead, they're going, no, no, no, no, let's just control the burn.
unidentified
Look at this.
Bob Menendez, still the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
George Santos, out.
Republicans on the verge of losing a quote-unquote majority in the House.
That says it right there.
Santos, out.
Menendez, in.
But norms!
Principles, right?
That's what the right-wingers tell us.
The norm and principle is power.
Democrats and the Uniparty have to be in power.
tim pool
And this is why Trump gets elected.
This is why there are MAGA candidates.
This is why the corporate press on the left says MAGA's fringe far right.
No!
It's literally just people who are saying, here's what I believe and I'm going to assert authority.
I saw a great comment someone posted I think on my Twitter.
Republicans hold office, Democrats hold power.
unidentified
Of course.
Listen, when they went after Elon, remember?
Who was it?
Ari Melver.
Do you see that clip where he's like, oh my goodness, if Elon Musk buys Twitter, they could ban a candidate from the Democrats.
They could shadow ban people.
What they were, never forget this, what the left was worried about wasn't that Elon was going to come on and do to them what Jack Dorsey and Vijay Aghati did to us.
They were worried he was going to stop them.
They cannot, and that's how far behind the eight ball we are.
We don't go on offense.
We say, we just want an even playing field.
They say, no, we wanted to attack you, destroy you in every way possible, censor you.
And what ends up is we end up in this weird, like, well, if we just split the baby, if we compromise and just let you censor us 90% of the time, we'll call that a victory.
tim pool
You know, I was having an argument this week about abortion, and I'm not a traditional conservative pro-life, I'm more of a libertarian-esque pro-choice, so it falls into a similar moral camp with a different restrictive camp.
Simple version, because I do not want to debate abortion, is I agree life begins at conception, I think abortion is wrong, but I'm concerned about the limitations of government and enforcing controls over someone's body, which makes it a really difficult moral position.
You know, the argument turned into, when I ask basic questions, do you think abortion is murder?
It's, uh, what?
I don't think that's helpful.
I'm not going to answer.
Do you think we should ban abortion?
I'm like, if the right isn't asserting a moral position and arguing for it, then you're not exposing the American people to your position and why your position is right.
And the left does nothing but moralizing while claiming they don't care about morals.
All they do all day is say, I believe this, this is right, this is freedom, you're far right, to the point where they've publicly advocated for sterilizing, whether inadvertently or intentionally, children.
England bans puberty blockers for kids now, which is like, we know this is coming, but in the United States they're like, no, no, no, no, you are a bigot, you are hateful, you are transphobic, and you get They support abortion to the point of birth.
In Colorado, no restrictions.
Kathy Tran, I believe her name was, am I getting the name wrong again?
In Virginia, arguing that their abortion, that was several years ago now, up to the point of birth, it was a judge, I believe, who asks her, the baby is crowning, and she goes, yep, there's no restriction, you can abort.
I'm like, the baby's alive!
unidentified
It's infanticide, that's what it's called.
tim pool
Yeah, and they have no problem saying that.
And Republicans are terrified to tell the American people We don't want this, and here's why.
unidentified
They don't go on the offense, ever.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Right.
The argument, and I don't, again, I'm nobody.
I'm not paid to be a political consultant or anything like this.
Give me five minutes of helping Republicans craft a message.
It's this simple.
The official Democrat position is her body, her choice.
No law should be there to determine it.
That means they believe in nine-month abortions.
In my state of Pennsylvania, Dr. Oz, who I was not a fan of, loses to human vegetable John Fetterman, and one of the arguments that Oz said at some point, he was like, You know, I think with abortion, because he's a doctor and he's trying to be like a little mealy-mouthed about it, he goes, I think it should be between a woman, her doctor, and like local officials.
In other words, state officials that would decide what the abortion law should be in Pennsylvania.
And the mainstream media went nuts.
How dare you say some official has a right?
But then when you press them, when you press the Democrats, you're like, so then you're saying nine month abortion.
If a woman just chooses as it's crowning, yeah, for no reason, I've decided to abort.
That's what you're for, right?
tim pool
And their argument is, that doesn't happen though.
And my response is, OK, it's not happening.
Let's make it illegal.
unidentified
And it is happening.
tim pool
Absolutely.
unidentified
It certainly is.
And, you know, never forget, they lit New York up pink when they passed that law.
And if you look into it, they they always wear these laws very carefully.
What the law said was for the health of the woman, if the doctor.
But then you look how they define health and like the courts in New York.
And it says these are the types of health, emotional health.
Financial health.
Have you ever met a pregnant woman?
Have you met one that doesn't go through some emotional health issues?
Of course not!
So it's de facto, for any reason, if a doctor and the woman give a thumbs up, you can abort at 9 months.
And New York celebrated it.
And it's because the Republicans don't go on offense.
They allow the Democrats to say, oh, but if a woman's sexually assaulted, you think you should carry that baby to term?
And Republicans will, but, but, but, no, go on the offense.
It's more disgusting to the average American.
The truth is the average American probably says we should allow safe, legal, and rare first trimester abortions, but we're disgusted by the late term abortions.
And Republicans allow the Democrats to control the narrative, which they're able to do because they control all these institutions, they censor people, they control academia, they control social media.
But if Republicans were smart, they would constantly be like, nine-month abortions, that's what you're for.
Republicans are some, and we're painting with a broad brush here, and also elected officials versus the public are very different, thank God.
But at the end of the day, I think in a lot of positions, and abortion is obviously one because Republicans are afraid because they think it's their position is a losing position with the broad swaths of America.
They let Democrats define every single issue, and you know where Democrats are going to come down on every single issue, and to your point, they are so, this is their religion, they are so morally righteous, self-righteous, even these amoral and immoral people in a lot of ways, they believe that their positions are the just, righteous positions, and if conservatives, even if they took unpopular positions, fought with the courage of their convictions, and again, Republicans, conservatives are different, elected officials, people are different, take a stand,
But they let the left define it, and it's in part because when you're in Washington, you're surrounded by everyone who's like that.
You have the press, which is 99.99% at your throat with a knife trying to get you at all times.
Don't be afraid.
Understand where the American people are.
And I think to your point, and we don't need to go down the abortion rabbit hole, but we saw this with IVF.
Immediately on the defensive, no one even looked into what the case was actually about.
The case is actually a horrifying case.
tim pool
Break it down for us.
unidentified
The case in Alabama, which spurred this whole, oh my god, Republicans want to take away IVF across the country, was a test tubes where basically a person walked into a cryo nursery and went to touch test tubes, dropped the freezing cold test tubes, destroyed the fetuses, the embryos rather,
And so the question is, do they have a cause of action to say that the clinic was liable here?
And basically that they destroyed life.
And already, they already hate Alabama because Alabama's constitution calls for, it has an amendment, calling for protecting life as early as possible.
And the whole case was over, is it, does the state have to protect life Out of utero as well as in utero.
There was no debate on the in utero part.
It was only on the out of utero part.
That was the whole case.
These clinics, no one's really looked into this.
I want to look into it at some point, but I haven't yet.
Did these clinics come out and say, we're going to stop this practice for political purposes or not?
I'd be very curious to know.
I'd like to follow the money.
That's what a smart enterprising journalist would do on this.
But then this became Republicans against IVF.
They hate babies.
They hate people who want to have kids.
And immediately on the defensive.
You can't be on the defensive.
You can't let the other side define the issue.
tim pool
Here's a question.
Where's the national push from any right-wing politician to repeal the National Firearms Act?
I can point to a million and one instances of Democrats calling for gun restrictions, and I can point to very few Republicans who are calling for the dismissal of these bills or, you know, revoking them or anything like that.
One of the arguments that, I think Michael Malice, I don't know if he said this directly, or if he just said something similar, I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was something to the effect of this, to which I've been saying, We should be advocating for universal gun ownership in this country.
There should be a department of gun services.
Maybe we actually attach it to the DMV because it's easy because the infrastructure is there.
And then when you turn 16, you can go in and you can receive an AR-15 and maybe a Glock 17 with a box of rounds for each.
So, you know, nine millimeter hollow point if you choose and a 5.56 with your rifle if you're 16 years old.
Um, I do believe it's fair to say that if you want to receive from the government, you need to pass a basic exam, like a driver's license thing, but it's not a requirement to own.
So at 16, you should be allowed to, uh, freely go and purchase these weapons at any point, from anywhere, but the government-issued one require, maybe, like, you gotta read a pamphlet, like you do at the DMV.
They say that, like, oh, you need a permit to drive, and I'm like, yeah, but have you ever taken the driving test?
You read a little pamphlet, and you take the test, everyone passes.
Otherwise, you take it again, and you pass.
Yeah, I agree.
We'll do something like that, and only because we, the taxpayer, are paying for giving out these free rifles and sidearms.
And so, the reason I argue that is not because I literally want to give children, 16-year-olds, these weapons.
It's that if you start from that position, and then you go the fringe far left, or trying to take guns away, You know, the Second Amendment says that not only is it our right to keep and bear arms, but it is a necessity in this country for people to do it.
Now, I don't see anywhere in the Constitution that's saying healthcare is a necessity for this country to function.
No, but guns are.
Okay, there should be a Department of Gun Services that give all 16-year-olds guns.
And again, it's got to be a long gun and a handgun, because, you know, you need both.
From that position, which is the counterpoint of the left, we can find the compromise that is, okay, fine, we won't pay for and give everyone free guns, but people are allowed to have whatever guns they want.
unidentified
So when I debated in college, it was the left of the left, but they liked me back in like 2004 or 5 because I was against the Iraq war.
So it's like, I was a big Ron Paul guy, right?
So they're like, oh, you're quirky, Ron Paul stuff, you know, whatever.
But you're against war, so you're not a threat to their power.
Right, right.
So, you know, they used to tell me all the time, these people, they'd be like, you know what you need?
You need to compromise.
What is this fear?
Where does this fear come from?
My position is basically, I want you to leave me alone.
And your position is, I want control over your life.
So what's the compromise?
Give you 50% control.
And then that becomes the new line of demarcation.
And then it's like, okay, now you have 50 and you want 100.
So now we're going to compromise to 75%.
And that's constantly the case.
And it's sad.
This is the predictable outcome of sort of a socialist, communist type mentality that wants totalitarian control over people.
Because most of us just want to be left alone.
tim pool
What is this fear?
Where does this fear come from?
Is it because the press maybe?
I can't remember whose quote it was, but Republicans are more concerned with the opinion of the New York Times and the opinion of their constituents.
unidentified
Well, look, we had a controlled experiment with everything related to Chinese coronavirus, which you weren't allowed to say, where you had... They called it, the Democrats called it the China coronavirus first.
tim pool
When Trump said it, they then called him racist.
unidentified
Then they said, go hug a Chinese person.
Remember that?
I think at the end of the day... So racist.
There's questions of why do politicians take the positions that they take and, you know, do they lack the courage of their convictions?
Are they afraid of a media?
Are they afraid of the academy?
Are they afraid of the consequences for their family members?
Definitely.
But then people themselves, why do people take the positions they take and why do they end up conforming to the totalitarian position at the end of the day?
And I think a lot of it can be explained by social pressure.
When you have All of the academy from K-12, actually pre-K-12 onward, it's all left.
You have a political class, and politicians, generally speaking, want power.
It's very rare to find anyone who rises to a position of power who does not want more power and control over your life.
Most popular presidents, historically, are the ones who usurp the most power, arguably.
tim pool
Yeah.
Abraham Lincoln.
unidentified
The social pressure to conform to that line when you're constantly hearing it in media, in pop culture, in the schools, from your political class, then when the opposing voices are smeared, slandered, toxified, censored to the nth degree, it's so hard to keep your wits.
And while the world is crumbling around you and you're going to kill everyone in your household if you don't do XYZ thing, we demand, and by the way, we're not going to tell you where this thing came from because maybe the US government might have been involved, incidentally, with where this virus came from in the first place, with our collusion with Communist China.
At the end of the day, how do you keep your head, keep your wits when all of these forces are pressing down on you?
How do you have not only common sense, but the ability to think critically when everything is pushing you towards 1619 Project and a Google Gemini AI version of the world?
Yeah, I mean, think about it.
You're an average guy working a nine-to-five.
You went to school, all you heard was this left-wing indoctrination, right?
So you go to your job, you have an HR department that's doing left-wing indoctrination.
You get home, you're like, let's turn on the local news, left-wing indoctrination.
Well, I'll turn on a late-night comedy show, let's see what Jimmy Fallon's up to, or Seth Meyers, or any of them, left-wing indoctrination.
I'll listen to some music, popular music, left-wing indoctrination.
Okay, I'm tired of it, I'll turn on the NFL.
Left-wing indoctrination.
You can't escape it and it's so demoralizing.
And that's what people don't understand about Donald Trump.
What Trump was amazing for was people in my area of the world, rural Pennsylvania or rural people in this country, they feel like no one stuck up for them for 50 years.
Like no one cares about them.
No one culturally, no one academically, no one politically.
We pick on Democrats.
You keep voting for these Democrats, you know, in the inner city, are they helping you?
The same's true of us.
The same's true of me in rural Pennsylvania.
And so along comes this billionaire who actually meets the bare minimum of, hey, I like you people.
I think you people are important to this country.
That's why people would crawl over broken glass for him because they're so used to being demoralized and beat over the head.
Every second of their lives, and every major institution telling them that they're the problem.
You that are living paycheck to paycheck and just want to be left alone and raising your family.
You're the real problem in this country.
Not the corporations, not the government, it's you.
So that's where Trump's popularity comes from.
And the reason people were so furious when things like January 6th happened is because when we finally got that one person that spoke up for us, what did they do?
Engaged in a coup for four years.
Every institution in this country went knives out for him in every way possible.
And we're supposed to be told, well, you should just let it go.
I'm sorry.
That's not the way it works.
tim pool
Do you guys see, uh, we have this video it's going viral.
There was a shooting in the subways in New York the other day.
Uh, the video of it's come out.
I don't know if you guys have seen the actual video.
It's wild.
And people are screaming.
There's something really interesting that happens when humans try and stampede through small crevices.
Humans become subject to fluid dynamics, where basically as they're all pushing, they create a jam, and they're just smashed and they can't move.
Everybody, if they spaced out, everybody would easily get out.
But because they all go at the same time, they get pancaked and smashed in the train, struggling to get out.
This fight breaks out, and I guess one guy stabs the other guy, and he goes, did you just stab me?
Goes to his coat, pulls out a gun, apparently shot him in the head.
In the New York subways, this is the Hurt-Skirmerhorn stop, I don't know how to pronounce it, and the National Guard was deployed, state troopers were deployed.
We have seen, in these cities, there is the, you know, we discuss a lot the federal level corruption stuff, going after Donald Trump, the frontrunner in the 2024 presidential race, with 91 indictments.
They're mostly, and very obviously, fraudulent, fake.
And then what do we see at the ground level?
What we get when you look at the big picture is, in places like New York and in California, they are, and the federal government allows it at the border, allowing criminal aliens to just violate the border laws, reward them with free rides, airplane rides, and cash.
They give them hotels at the Hotel Roosevelt.
unidentified
Newcomers.
tim pool
Newcomers.
They release the criminals from jails.
Crime is skyrocketing to the point where You know, it's actually quite fascinating.
The level of corruption that I think we're seeing in the United States right now is bordering on an occupation of the United States by an external force.
What I mean by that is...
The frontrunner to win in 2024.
They are bringing false and ridiculous criminal charges against him.
They lie about him every single day.
He's certainly not a perfect guy.
There's a lot of reasons to criticize Donald Trump, even his presidency.
But this idea that 30 years ago, he raped some woman at the Bergdorf Goodman or whatever, despite the fact he owned the hotel across the street, no one saw it happen, the dress she claimed she wore wasn't actually released until some time later, the story seems to make no sense, and it follows the plot of a Law & Order SVU episode.
Sure, the court ruled Trump did not, uh, the jury found he did not rape her.
He was liable for sexual abuse, yet still the media says rape.
They push the lie, they push this narrative.
So what we have going on right now is if you are trying to quote-unquote make America great again, whether that means anything or not, if you are saying secure our borders, bring back jobs, bring our troops back from overseas, they will try to destroy you.
And at the ground level, they will release criminals to terrorize your neighborhood.
And what we have now in New York They arrest the likes of Daniel Penny.
A man who saved the lives of his fellow passengers, and this is what the witnesses to the event said, he saved our lives.
Because a man was threatening to kill them all, Penny stopped him.
Now we can see what happens in the subway when you don't have the likes of Daniel Penny.
And anyone knows that if they dare try and stop the crime, the violence, they will go to prison if something goes awry.
What do you get?
A stabbing and a shooting.
On the train.
So, then what they do, they say we gotta call the National Guard.
Military.
They are bringing in military force to try and quote-unquote solve the problem that they themselves have created.
And they're trying to stop Donald Trump from cleaning this mess up.
It would seem very obviously, everything they're doing is intending on destroying the country.
Hurting all of us who are trying to make our lives and everyone else's lives better.
And once they burn it all down, they then will call upon their new military force to enforce the law.
They bring in the National Guard.
How about you stop defunding the police?
How about you start actually criminally charging criminals and locking them up, and you would not need to bring the National Guard in?
Instead, Letitia James is very concerned about Donald Trump engaging in self-appraisal of his own buildings, to which they've determined is fraud.
unidentified
Paying it back with interest.
Right, what a bad guy.
tim pool
But let me clarify.
You know, if I were to use the language of the Democrats in the Trump fraud case, it's Trump fraudulently inflated the value of his properties to get favorable loans.
If I was to speak to you like an actual human being, telling you what literally happened is Trump appraised his properties, Trump evaluated his own properties at what he believed they were worth.
That's an insane thing to consider.
That New York is basically saying, if you own any piece of property, and you argue it's worth more than the state, you've committed a crime.
It's fake.
unidentified
And here's the thing, if you're wondering about this case, I can make it real simple for people.
Regardless of all the minutia of what went on in this case, what did LaCheisha James put out on Twitter?
What was the number they used?
The tax assessed value of Mar-a-Lago.
What was it?
Something like 18 million or something?
Is anyone out there listening right now?
Did you ever get a mortgage?
You know how the bank gives you more money for your mortgage and the value of your house than what your tax assessed value is?
That's literally every person that owns a home in this country.
And basically, what they do constantly with every one of these laws, like we were talking about beforehand, I don't have a problem if you're going to be like, here's the law, Trump broke it, so be it.
That's fine.
The problem I have is the selective enforcement of it.
So every single one of these charges, mishandling classified documents, well we know Biden did it worse than Trump.
Campaign finance violations, well we know Hillary's team had to pay a fine because they lied about financing the Steele dossier.
So they had to pay a fine.
All of these things, we see the other side did.
Even the worst is the FARA violation.
Paul Manafort gets charged for FAR violations because he didn't register as a foreign lobbyist.
Now, never mind Hunter Biden hasn't been charged for that.
But if you read Mueller's report, it says he worked with Group A and Group B. Group A was Mercury LLC, a Republican consulting group.
Group B was, you ready for this?
The Podesta Group.
Literally, Hillary's campaign manager's group.
So what was his punishment?
He literally committed the same crime with the same people.
Manafort goes to jail, Podesta's allowed to retroactively file paperwork.
It's like this in every single one of these cases, this selective enforcement.
And again, what it does is, the lesson that it's showing is, don't you dare think of going against the establishment.
tim pool
It's the occupation.
unidentified
And you can't have counsel either because they have something called the 65 Project, which targets for disbarment and destruction the personal lives of any lawyer who would dare lodge an election challenge or litigate over election laws on the conservative side.
To your point, They have to concoct non-crimes with non-victims to try and take this guy down.
It's actually amazing when you think about how long Trump has been out in the public world, including in the rough-and-tumble world of New York real estate, and they still have to concoct crimes to try and take him down.
But to your fundamental point, the shooting in New York, Actually crystallizes much a much broader story, which is first of all note had people been armed on the subway Maybe this wouldn't happen, but you can't be armed in New York.
They have to disarm you they have to indoctrinate your kids They have to take away the police and leave you defenseless and weak so that you're reliant of course on them and that increases their power obviously But the broader issue is it's basically a narco-tyranny a narco-tyranny is the best way to define it It's there are no laws for the common man in this country Justice, so called, which is really injustice, is meted out against the political opposition to the nth degree.
So Douglas Mackey puts out a tweet about Hillary Clinton, you know, eight years ago, where he says, you know, text your vote to whatever number, si se puede or whatever.
And he goes down, but a Democrat comedian puts out the exact same thing in a meme.
He's not convicted of a criminal conspiracy against rights and we're going to use a KKK law to take them down.
By the way, one of the same statutes is being used against Trump in the January 6th case.
Douglas Mackey is fighting for his life and appealing his case now, but his life is over for a meme that touched on Hillary Clinton.
But Democrats do everything they accuse their opponents of, and infinitely more, and it's clear-and-cut, open-and-shut cases, and will never, ever... And it's not just Democrats, it's the Uniparty at the end of the day.
And that is what it is.
It's justice for our enemies, justice, and for our friends, everything.
tim pool
And you know who bears full responsibility for all of this?
What group of people bears full responsibility for all the corruption?
I don't blame Hillary Clinton.
unidentified
No.
I don't blame... It's the institutions.
tim pool
No, I blame the police.
Yeah, well... Why is it that a police officer was willing to actually... with Owen Schroer...
When he was, what did he do?
He was standing outside, he had a permit for his rally, and he said, death to communists.
Among other things, but he didn't go in the Capitol.
They still argued that because before, during, and after he advocated against the government, he should go to jail for this.
How is there a single police officer who went, what was that, you want me to go bring that guy in?
How is it that not a single officer just, maybe there was a single, but how is it that a single officer said, no problem?
Where are the cops to be like, there's no way in hell I'm gonna be involved in this, find someone else.
unidentified
They should all step down, minimally, which Steve Friend has done, Kyle Serafini, you know, you can name a couple FBI officials.
tim pool
Not even to that degree.
It's like, it could have very well just been, if you're a cop and they said, we're gonna need you to bring in Owen Schroer, you're gonna be like, nah, I won't do that.
You're gonna have to find somebody else.
unidentified
Call in sick today.
tim pool
Maybe at the lightest, be like, I'll be sick that day.
But to just say plainly, I won't do that.
And if they say, if you don't do your job, you'll be fired, I'll be like, I guess you're gonna have to fire me.
If every single cop was like, dude, we know this is not acceptable, they would have zero ability to enforce anything.
And that's exactly what's happening right now.
Because I had this argument, and I can't remember who it was, but they said that maybe the reality is that the cop thought, I can protect Owen if I'm the one who brings him in.
Ridiculous argument.
Because where's the inversion?
Where is the counter-argument from law enforcement?
I will say this again, if you're a cop, And you think, I'm going to arrest this person I know should not be arrested because I'm the right person to protect them?
You are the bad guy.
You are the evil we oppose.
Because I'll tell you this, there is no counter-argument from any of the law enforcement.
Where is the law enforcement officer to say, you know you're right, I'm going to go arrest Hunter Biden.
So, where's the Republican DA?
Counter-argument.
Where is any right-wing state to say, we certainly have grounds for criminal charges against a bunch of these NGOs because they operate in our state?
How many of these political action committees, with ties to individuals that are not registered as foreign agents, perhaps Hunter Biden, could you argue, hey, we found that they solicited donations to, say, West Virginians.
We now have jurisdiction to bring criminal charges.
There is no counter position where these cops and everyone who defends them say something like, I'm actually going to arrest the bad guy.
A good example is Customs and Border Protection.
I like to bring this up down the road.
Let me think about where it is.
I think it's that way.
We've got on 340.
A massive Customs and Border Protection training facility.
And I've repeatedly said if I was the governor of West Virginia, if I was the AG, or if I had any political power, I would instruct or, in every effort, get a warrant for an armed raid on the CBP facility to seize communication devices, hard drives, to find to what degree they knew they were trafficking children for sex rings.
We knew this was going on, and we now have confirmation from the head of the CBP Union talking to Dr. Phil, and Dr. Phil confirming, even on The View, They are bringing children across the border, cartels, with numbers on their arms to deliver them to sex trafficking rings.
And it's Customs and Border Protection that, with smiles on their faces, take the children and deliver them to the prostitution rings.
These CBP officers should be in prison for life.
They should be made an example of.
Where is a single CBP officer?
There was one.
There was one.
CBP officer pulled up in his car and he saw people trying to illegally enter and he told him to turn around.
He got in trouble for it.
That's a good man.
But there is no, there's no counter-argument.
So, if Hillary Clinton comes out and says, Donald Trump's a bad guy, I should go to jail, and you get these cops who are like, guess so, the police are the bad guys.
Michael Maus made a great point, he said, the orders of the political elite and the corrupt in this country are letters to Santa without the police to enforce them.
And while I can certainly blame the corruption of the political elites, I think it's fair to say Where is the integrity of our law enforcement to just say, not interested?
unidentified
Well, you could even go to like attorney generals and things like you were talking.
For example, take a like this issue.
I know the Supreme Court decided this, but the Colorado decision keeping Trump off the case.
So they use what was it?
Section three of the 14th Amendment, which says if you've committed an insurrection or engaged in an insurrection coup and Aided or abetted the enemy, then you're kicked off.
How do they define insurrection?
The court didn't even define insurrection, by the way, the Colorado court.
It said, here's a couple definitions of insurrection, but we're not going to choose one.
We're just saying whatever your definition is, Trump met it.
And when he said be peaceful, he really meant be violent.
That's what he meant, trust us.
Where were the right-wing attorney generals?
Do you remember there was an event, it was May 30th, 2020.
This was an actual insurrection.
We had a bunch of left-wingers that actually had lethal weapons in the form of, May 31st, 2020, maybe it was?
29th.
Okay, 29.
tim pool
But they had lethal weapons- Let's make sure we get it right.
I've been saying May 29.
unidentified
I always said 30, but maybe I'm wrong.
They had lethal weapons in the form of Molotov cocktails, unlike the people January 6th.
They burned down a guard station.
They hurt dozens of police officers attempting to get into the White House to physically get to Donald Trump.
tim pool
Here you go.
The White House was on lockdown on the night of May 29th in response to protests reaching the gates.
They began at 7pm and by 8.30pm the White House lockdown was lifted as demonstrators began to leave.
They were throwing rocks, urine, alcohol at Secret Service agents, injuring over 60.
They firebombed the White House.
It's not an exaggeration.
I watched it live!
They set fire to a guard post, but the White House grounds was firebombed.
A guard post was torched, and they set fire to St.
John's Church across the street.
And I've had Republicans come into the studio on Tim Kast's IRL and I ask them, where's the 529 committee?
And they go, what's that?
unidentified
Exactly.
I believe they not only got off en masse, almost all of them, not only did they get off, but I'm pretty sure that they got payments from the government for their troubles.
And so you think about this, right?
Now, here's the key part.
You could say, OK, but that's not Joe Biden or Democrats engaging in that insurrection.
But when they look and give the evidence of Trump, they say he said things like he liked a tweet that said the cavalry's coming.
That's proof that he engaged in an insurrection.
I could show you articles that a few days after this attack, when Donald Trump had to be moved to a bunker, That Joe Biden gave a comment where he said Trump should go back to his bunker.
That is the president of the United States making fun of the former president who violent left-wing insurrectionists that, unlike January 6th, use lethal weapons, chased him into a bunker.
The Secret Service moved him.
Kamala Harris also, it should be noted, called for, showed for a bail fund.
That's material support to domestic terrorists by the Democrat definition.
tim pool
Biden's staff and Kamala personally solicited donations to get these people out of jail.
unidentified
So where are the right-wing attorney generals that said, okay, Biden's not allowed in our ballot?
And if there aren't those attorneys general and conservatives are not equally committed to fighting fire with fire.
And as you know, I mean, it's not even water, probably at the end of the day, you're going to lose every time you're going to lose nine times out of 10.
Certainly.
tim pool
I will take fighting fire with wheat flour, like just a wet blanket, a wet blanket, just something.
And the funny thing is, to be fair, I take fighting fire with fire, but they're literally not doing anything.
Well, they're, they're laying down next to the fire.
unidentified
Well, Look at this, like, while we're talking about May 29th, May 30th.
Remember, a few days after this, if I got my timeline, Tom Cotton writes an op-ed.
tim pool
To clarify, it was both days.
unidentified
So we're both right.
tim pool
Nailed it.
May 29th was when the president was forced into the bunker and they were firebombing it.
They came back on May 30th.
Police vehicles were damaged with graffiti.
Monuments were vandalized on May 30th.
unidentified
There were a lot of riots that summer while you were locked down and people couldn't go to church.
Right.
The virus magically didn't spread.
If you went to Sturgis, you were an evil person that was spreading the virus.
But you know, when you were rioting, committing insurrection against Trump, that was totally cool.
But you remember Tom Cotton writes this op-ed, right?
And he's like, hey, maybe we should deploy the National Guard as left-wingers are literally burning down cities across this country.
And the staff at the New York Times all threatened to quit.
Until the op-ed from a senator was removed.
Where are the New York Times writers today when we have Mayor Adams in New York that says, violent crime, that's a myth, crime's on the way down.
However, we do have to deploy the National Guard.
What are we deploying?
The gaslighting is worse than I've ever seen the way they do these things now.
tim pool
You know, if we're talking about actual tactics and strategy and warfare, The smartest move that could have been made by Donald Trump on May 29th was to stand down.
And easily justify the stand down by saying, we... So I'll start with this.
January 6th, Donald Trump did call for National Guard.
We now know that from the testimony of Secret Service.
The media lied about it incessantly, but he did.
I think 10,000, he wanted National Guard there.
And then when he said, go be peaceful, you know, respect law enforcement, they deleted those posts and lied about it.
So what ends up happening is a bunch of bumbling dotards enter the Capitol on one side.
On the other side, there's a violent riot.
For the people who walked in confused, they were called violent insurrectionists and charged with misdemeanors, and now their lives are being upended.
May 29th.
You had several hundred to a thousand far-left extremists firebombing the White House, firebombing St.
John's Church.
You had 60 officers hospitalized.
I'm sorry, 60 injured with 11 hospitalized.
Rocks, urine, alcohol, firebombs, etc.
Trump was forced into an emergency bunker for one hour.
The smartest strategic play from the Trump administration would have been pull back our law enforcement and stand down.
Then the far left would have torn down the fences.
St.
John's Church would have been burnt to the ground.
Trump would have said the next day, the attack by the far left extremists in this country is an insurrection.
These people have been supported by the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.
Then Republicans would have called for panels and investigations, just like January 6th.
And when the Democrats said, how did this happen?
Why were these people allowed to do this?
The response would be like, allowed to?
When the far left came and engaged in violent terrorism against this country, we didn't allow them to do it.
And then of course, Democrats would say, you stood down, you stood down.
And they'd say, that's a lie.
That's a lie.
We had police there, but they were prioritizing the safety of the president, blah, blah, blah.
If Trump and Barr allowed the protesters to do whatever they wanted, there would be no January 6th, Trump would be president right now, and we'd be looking at who would be the successor to Trump, and not will Trump win again.
unidentified
I debated people over and over in the summer of love, the George Floyd summer, where I was telling people, I said, you realize what you're doing, you're making violence on the right inevitable.
Because human nature is, there's going to be radical people on all sides, right?
There's far more on the left, don't get me wrong.
But when you implicitly tell the American people, if you're a left-winger, you can go out with impunity, basically, and riot.
And we'll say it's mostly peaceful, and we'll leave it happen over and over again.
Eventually, someone on the other side will do it.
And I told these people, if even the smallest riot happens on the other side, you'll lose your mind.
All of the stuff you condemn Trump for allegedly wanting to do, you'll cheer for, like sending the National Guard.
And the biggest secret, the open secret that we all have to pretend isn't the case.
You want to know why May 29th didn't get into the White House?
Because me, and you, and Steven Son, the Capitol City Police Chief, and the FBI, and the Secret Service, you know what a little secret we all know?
That the left-wingers are incredibly violent.
And when the George Floyd protesters were coming to town, shit was about to get heated.
Everybody knew it.
But for some reason, and this is what the January 6th committee should have been looking at, why was the National Guard not allowed to be deployed there January 6th?
And the truth is, because the Democrats wanted them to get into the Capitol so they could use it as an excuse.
You listen to Stephen Son's testimony where he says he begged people.
He begged Paul Irving, the sergeant at arms that operated under Nancy Pelosi.
He called him multiple times.
I think he says something like seven times he called him.
Paul Irving lied.
And that's the thing about the difference between Democrats and Republicans.
He called me.
He only called me once.
And I, why would they say for optics?
We couldn't have it because they got the result they wanted.
Right.
That's what it was about.
tim pool
And that's the thing about the difference.
That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans.
Donald Trump.
Was rushed into a bunker.
Police stop so far off.
It's toward on the barricades.
Firebombed the White House grounds.
Firebombed a church.
60.
I think it's actually more than 60.
It's over 100 for the total night of riots because it was extended.
It wasn't even one night, January 6th was one day for a few hours.
The May 29th riots were until June, they went on until June 23rd, the riots continued.
And the police stopped it.
If Republicans understood the tactics and strategy, I mean, January 6th never would have happened.
Let me stress this point.
There were many personalities.
Jamie Raskin did this video where he was like, look at all these people cheering for January 6th, blah, blah, blah.
There were many personalities before January 6th who were advocating for violent riots.
They were, whether figuratively or literally, saying, let's roll, let's do this.
After January 6th, many of these people all of a sudden were like, Trump lied to me and I'm for Ron DeSantis now.
And the reason for that?
These people were terrified that their advocacy would result in criminal charges for incitement to riot, which they did to Owen Schroer.
Now granted, he was on the grounds, he never went in, and they went after him for his speech.
I do believe I believe they're not done with- I mean, they're still going after people for January 6th, and I believe there's a strong probability that they're gonna target influencers, media personalities, who are saying things like, go down there and do X or Y. If Trump allowed May 29th to just run amok, if he went to his advisors and said, I want all the police to stand down right now.
I want them to slowly back away.
Leave.
When the far left tore down the White House fences, jumped over and torched... St.
John's Church would have been razed to the ground and be gone forever.
And the White House would be damaged.
Then what would happen is, every one of these leftists, who had been on Twitter advocating for things, would be begging and apologizing.
No, no, I was never for this!
I've never been a leftist!
They would back away as fast as they could, and they would rush towards the middle, and they'd say, leave me out of this.
Like we saw with many Trump supporters who cheered for January 6th and then changed their tunes, and were like, I'm now for Ron DeSantis, a moderate personality, and a lot of these people are nowhere to be found now.
unidentified
We tell people on our side, hey, don't go protest.
There'll be feds.
You remember there was this protest like two years after January 6th?
It was like an immemorial, or not memorial, but for the people that were charged January 6th that committed no crime.
You remember those pictures of all the blatant feds and like khakis?
We know that.
And meanwhile you can see like the pro-Palestinian protesters, whatever your thoughts are on that, they have no shame!
They have no fear that the hammer is going to be brought down on them.
We are so far behind the eight ball that we say we know we can't exercise our first amendment right because if we do we will be infiltrated entirely.
Can't peaceably assemble because they say it's a domestic terrorist insurrection.
And also let's note there were even inauguration day riots in 2017 not talked about.
tim pool
I was there!
I got arrested!
unidentified
But they ultimately all got off at the end.
Maybe you didn't, but many people.
tim pool
I did, and I'll tell you what happened.
On January 20th, 2017, at the inauguration of Donald Trump, several hundred black-clad violent far-leftists were smashing windows, ransacking whatever they could find.
They set several fires in the streets.
They set a limousine on fire that was owned by an immigrant.
And at one point there were also several hundred non-masks so there's probably a thousand plus.
At one point...
We were marching down the street, and police set up a... They were setting up a police line.
I was with Luke Rutkowski, who ran full speed along with many of the riders past the police line.
I turned left and went on a set of stairs to stay out of the line of the police.
The police then wrapped around this stair set, capturing several hundred far-left extremists for which I was also trapped.
I made my way to the right side, called for a supervisor, They called the supervisor over, I said, I'm a journalist, I have a press card.
He said, it doesn't matter, you're all under arrest.
And I said, I'm just letting you know I'm a journalist.
And he's like, okay.
Eventually what happens is, there was a local camera crew and a reporter who were there, and they called their boss, whose station called the police and said, get our reporters out of your, you know, your arrest net, whatever you want to call it, your cordon.
And he walks over and says, who's the journalist?
And it's a very obvious little Asian woman in a blue dress, I think, with credentials and a big camera guy and they wave and he's like, all right, come on.
And I was like, and I raised my hand and he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you too, come here.
And he's like, you got a press card.
And I showed him my plethora of press credentials from the various companies I worked.
I was like, I don't work here anymore, but this, he's like, yeah, you're fine.
You're fine.
Just walk that way.
I was told twice I had been arrested.
He says, you are under arrest.
You are not free to leave.
I said, okay.
I was there for like an hour, two hours.
The several hundred people there also included some other leftist journalists, I love this, who were screaming blood red, spitting in the face of cops, YOU MOTHERFUCKER, I'M A FUCKING JOURNALIST, YOU CAN'T FUCKING DO THIS!
And I'm like, after when they actually got arrested and went to jail, they were like, you know, oh, Tim Pool must be a fag, that's the only reason he got out, and I was like, you were spitting on the cops, screaming in their face, they're not gonna listen to you.
Here's the best part.
I believe it was like 217 arrests.
These people are on camera.
I filmed them doing these things.
They conspired to do these things.
Not only were the charges dropped, the city paid them out millions of dollars.
unidentified
Every time.
tim pool
The jurisdiction of DC paid the protesters.
See, what happened was...
The far left intentionally engages in a conspiracy to commit violence.
And it is a conspiracy, they say.
Everyone come and wear the same thing.
And the reason why?
So the police can't identify you.
It's not just about wearing a mask.
If you're wearing all black, A hoodie, a mask, and you run up by yourself and smash an ATM, they will follow you on surveillance cameras, and then they will say, that was you in the mask.
When 200 people show up with black masks and hoodies, smash things, and then scutter about, you can't track who is who.
So what ends up happening is, when they went to court, and the police were like, how do we charge these people?
They said, conspiracy.
The court said, you can't accuse any one of these individuals with conspiracy because you can't prove any of them actually engaged in the communication to conspire.
Simply because someone is wearing a hoodie doesn't mean you can criminally charge them.
Therefore, they're free to go.
And then, their lawyer advocates said, well, then they shouldn't have been arrested in the first place.
Okay, then we're gonna pay them out millions of dollars.
When the Proud Boys were in New York, Gavin McInnes was speaking, and a bunch of Antifa came, masks and all and whatever, and were harassing and attacking people who were there, and were threatening to fight people.
Eventually, a group of Proud Boys, or supporters who were there, said, let's go!
Far leftists threw a water bottle at them, they charge, mutual combat.
When the police arrive, the Proud Boys, with smiles on their faces, says, thank you so much, officer.
We back the blue.
My name is John Smith.
Here's my age, date of birth, and address.
And Antifa went, run!
And then the police went, oh well, they left.
You are all under arrest.
And the Proud Boys were like, wait, why are we being arrested?
He says, because you're a criminal gang who engaged in violence.
And they said, what about Antifa?
And they went, who?
Those people who ran off?
We don't know who that was.
And those guys got four years in prison.
Back to blue, baby.
unidentified
Well, and it's just an idea.
You didn't see a riot.
You saw an idea burning things down.
Like, wasn't it Chris Wray that said that it was like Antifa?
It's an idea until you get a milkshake to the side of your head.
Right, right.
It's unbelievable.
Think about this.
Like, I was thinking about this the other day.
January 6th.
They made this.
They're these seminal moments that they need to, like a religion, enshrine in people's head to justify their corruption.
January 6th being one of them.
When you look at January 6th, to me, the one very serious thing that happened was these pipe bombs.
And I mean that wholeheartedly.
If it was a Trump supporter- And they have no suspects.
Zero.
If it was a Trump supporter, they deserve to go down.
Don't get me wrong.
tim pool
If it was a Hillary supporter, if it was a Biden, whoever, that person, or a Fed- I hear they looked a lot like the training pipe bombs that the FBI use.
unidentified
They did.
So here's the point, right?
Coincidence.
Without getting into too much of the details, Thomas Massie, talking to Bennie Thompson the other day in front of the committee, right?
Bennie Thompson's the Democrat that was in charge of the January 6th committee.
Massey starts talking all these facts about the pipe bomber.
Well, here's, you know, here we see the person that allegedly found the pipe bomb go up to the Secret Service.
Why is the Secret Service set there for five minutes?
They literally leave pedestrians walk right in front of the pipe bomb.
The vice president.
The vice president, or vice president-elect, but nonetheless.
Yeah.
Benny Thompson is just like, I don't know any of this.
So the one event that matters, the dude that's in charge of the committee, and it just goes to show you what I always say is every one of these examples, we could say there's a double standard.
It gets tiring to talk about their hypocrisy.
What their hypocrisy means is this.
They don't care about the things they claim to, but they know you do.
For example, take an easy issue.
Kids in cages.
I don't want to see kids in cages.
You don't want to see them.
You don't want to see them.
That's heartbreaking.
But we understand we live in a society where sometimes things like that are inevitable and through law enforcement you have to do things like that.
When they had four times more kids in cages, they didn't care.
They exploit your heart strings.
They know that you don't want an insurrection.
You don't want people engaged in violence January 6th.
So they make that a big deal.
But then when you point to May 29th, all of a sudden they're like, what?
And the best part is when I debate these people over and over, you know what they say?
Oh, I never heard of that.
And I'm like, oh, you don't see the problem with that?
tim pool
Republicans haven't heard of it either.
Right!
As I've mentioned, I've had several Republicans here, and I say, where's the May 29th committee?
They go, what was that?
And I said, when far leftists firebombed the White House grounds and forced the president into an emergency bunker for an hour?
And they go, oh, I don't know anything about that.
unidentified
That sounds bad.
tim pool
Yeah, well, that's Republicans for you, but I think we've got good news in polls pertaining to whether or not we're going to see Trump and Republicans win in Congress.
We've got more America-first MAGA-type Republicans that are running.
These are people who are actually looking to exercise power and find accountability.
That being said, I think one of the most important things we can do is, and we've seen this, I believe that Speaker Mike Johnson announced they're defunding federal law enforcement agencies to a certain degree with the continuing resolution.
I don't know the full details on it, but I know Thomas Massey said he got included in the funding bill that if they do move for a continuing resolution, all budgets drop by 1%, and they agreed to it thinking it would never happen, so that's good.
But I think the big issue right now is if we do not hold law enforcement accountable, then We're in serious trouble.
We did the show out of Deptford, New Jersey for about a year or so.
I was down there for a couple years.
And just 10 or 15 minutes drive was Attila's Gym.
When COVID lockdowns happened, they said, you cannot force us to lock down.
It's unconstitutional.
They stayed open.
Local police showed up and said, okay, we're not gonna do anything.
Have a nice day.
And everyone cheered.
So they brought in external police force, who with smiles on their faces, made arrests, detained people.
And somehow, it is fascinating to me, there are many Republicans who quite literally love just licking boot.
Hillary, look, there's a guy standing on the street corner screaming that all redheads should be arrested.
And we're like, what a crazy person.
Do we say, oh no, that person must be stopped.
Oh, this corrupt individual must be locked up in jail.
They must be held accountable.
No, it's a crazy person screaming crazy.
But what if a bunch of cops came out, listened to that crazy person and said, okay, and started making arrests.
Would we go, it's not the cop's fault.
He was told to do it.
Absolutely not.
CBP is trafficking children into prostitution rings.
Children.
Customs and Border Protection on the border are human traffickers engaged in child sex trafficking.
This is a fact.
We've known this for a while now.
Dr. Phil got a statement from the head of the CBP union.
Our tax dollars are paying for this.
How could anyone in their right mind say, back the blue, I support law enforcement?
There should be, right now, I should have, the moment Dr. Phil said this, there should have been 15 or 20 CBP agents arresting other CBP agents on camera saying, these men are going to prison for life for child sex trafficking.
No, that'll never happen.
And so what's going to happen is, you know, we have a super chat right here.
TND says, I agree with Steve Turley's take this morning, prepare for a total Marxist takeover.
There was a video out of- Prepare for it!
There was a video out of Seattle.
A guy was backing away from Antifa, pointing at him, like, stay back.
They were approaching, they were advancing on him.
Police vehicle pulls up, cops jump out, grab the victim, arrest him, and apologize to Antifa.
And still, it is fascinating to me, The left hates police.
They hate police because the police don't serve them.
The moment the police do, they'll cheer for them.
We saw this in Milwaukee when there was a man whose home was being protested by Black Lives Matter.
This group had been organized by a man before whose other organized protests resulted in an arson on a property where they thought two girls had been kidnapped and it was wrong.
He brandished a shotgun.
Probably shouldn't have done it.
He's in his own home, though, and he branches the shotgun through the window.
BLM calls the police.
The police pull the man from his home and arrest him to cheers and celebration from Black Lives Matter.
They love the cops.
While you have the opportunity, and the left is attacking the institution of law enforcement, the right needs to recognize what police are doing to them en masse, particularly the Capitol Police, and say, now's your opportunity to strip all support.
And we saw this a few years ago when conservatives were throwing the thin blue line flags on the ground and stomping on them.
Instead, you have a ton of high-profile, prominent conservatives who keep saying, I don't blame the police.
Okay, well, I guarantee you, that cop's gonna come to your house, you're gonna say, what's the problem?
He's gonna grab you by the neck and crack you in the face with a truncheon in front of your children, and he's gonna shut your mouth, insurrectionist!
And here's what's gonna happen.
We've seen this throughout every major civil conflict.
When the machine comes to law enforcement and to the local military, the National Guard and says, your choice is to be well-fed and protect your family or you can be with them in the gas chamber, they say, I'll do whatever you want.
When push comes to shove, if we're actually marching towards what we think we are, they're going unprecedented.
I think people can't understand the heap of sand sitting before us.
The frontrunner for the 2024 election, the most popular candidate right now, Donald Trump, is being criminally charged by his political adversaries, who are publicly telling you they will not bring charges against Joe Biden, who did commit these crimes, and they admit he committed these crimes, and they say, but he's got a bad memory.
It's not an exaggeration.
He had motive.
He wanted to make money.
Fact.
The ghostwriter, who he told these may be classified, deleted the evidence to hide the crime.
No charges in any of this.
We know this is happening.
When the time comes and we see over and over again that the right is unwilling to hold law enforcement accountable, law enforcement will come down.
There will be a man in his local sheriff's department, local police department, who is presented with a simple conundrum.
The left comes to him and says, we are telling you to go arrest those Trump supporters.
And he's going to think to himself, well, I know that if they arrest a Trump supporter, they'll do nothing.
I know that if I tell the left no, they will firebomb my house and target my family.
unidentified
I'm with the left. - Well, you know, one thing that's worth noting here is, this is by design.
And what I mean by that is, the left historically hated the military, hated law enforcement, hated any sort of law and order in society.
At the end of the day, we see now, because they didn't control it.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
And so why do we have wokeism in the military and a quota system and generals like Milley who care about white rage?
And all of this nonsense, because ultimately they want to make life a living hell for those in the military who might believe the things that you believe, so that they leave, and so that they have control of the military.
They obviously have, you have Soros DAs, and that filters down through the law enforcement apparatuses at state and local levels.
It's the same thing with police.
Who wants to be a policeman when you're going to be attacked viciously, and if you dare to defend yourself, your life is over at the end of the day.
So you already have the institutional pressure of, if I stand out, if I refuse this order, I'm going to lose my job, I'm going to lose my pension, I'm going to be a pariah if I don't do that.
But then you also have the external force of the entire left and the political class and the activists saying, Your life is over if you dare to do your job.
This is all by design.
This was the point.
The left, once the left has control of the police force, they will love the police.
They will bow down to the police.
tim pool
Exactly what we're saying.
I want to make sure, a point I've made before but I'll reiterate for now.
These police officers that enforce the law, the Capitol Police officers arresting J6ers who are peaceful, the men who brought Owen Schroer in, they are evil.
This is the banality of, and it's objective, it's malicious evil as well as the banality.
unidentified
Steve Baker's leg shackled, journalist.
tim pool
And where was any law enforcement to be like, I'm not doing this to a journalist, are you nuts?
You don't need to put this guy in cuffs, he came here voluntarily.
But I'll tell you this, I heard from so many people saying, these police don't want to lose their jobs, they have families to feed.
I say, I get that.
And they say, many people have posted this online, I would gladly break the law to feed my kids.
Many people said, I would lay down my life to feed my kids.
And my response?
You are evil.
You are in the army, figuratively or literally, of the devil.
And I can make it really simple for you.
People seem to have this belief that a deal with the devil, whether figuratively or literally, I mean, some people might take this literally, and by all means, please do.
The deal with the devil was that one day, you're sitting in your room playing guitar, and the devil comes to you and says, how would you like to be the greatest rock star in all of history?
I will craft you a guitar pick that will make you the greatest shredder!
And if you've seen Tenacious D, it's a good movie.
That does not deal with the devil.
The devil does not come to you, typically, and tempt you with great luxuries and great wealth.
He comes to you and tempts you with the lives of your children.
So when you're a police officer, and you think, I don't want to do this, it's wrong, but I have to because I'll do anything to feed my kids, the devil smiles.
And he says, the way we get you to sell your soul was always to threaten your family.
The deal with the devil is he comes to you and says, your child will never know an empty stomach.
Your family will never know hardship.
Do the deal.
Sign the contract.
Give me your soul, and I will keep your children's belly full.
And they do the deal.
And then what happens?
Ten years later, their children are gaunt and starving, and he says, would you prefer to be in the gas chamber with those you killed?
And then when judgment comes, he says, you made the choice to kill these people.
It's not my fault.
These people don't realize, these officers who are bringing in these J6ers, many of whom, the CBP agents, who know they're trafficking children into sex trafficking, they're thinking, I have to do it for my family.
What did you think the devil was going to tempt you with?
A new sports car?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The safety and security of your family.
That's what it's always going to be.
Now, do you have the willpower to resist that?
It's hard.
I'm not sure very many people could.
The idea that you would see your children go hungry instead of selling your soul?
Many people would condemn their souls to an eternity of damnation to keep their children safe.
Welcome to what the deal of the devil is and why it's so hard to resist.
unidentified
And it's amazing what people are willing to accept.
So I will claim some ignorance on this CBP issue, but one of the things it reminds me of that I have talked about for years when I realized how dark things could get and people will accept it.
Did you ever hear the case of Rotterham and all of the sort of Islamic grooming gangs in England?
Now, it's bad enough.
I don't have to get into the gross details, but they estimate that tens of thousands of girls Underage girls all across the UK were sexually groomed, raped, etc.
by these Muslim gangs, right?
Now, that's bad enough, but this is what always was the darkest to me.
Once they did their official investigations, it turns out police knew this for decades.
They knew.
And they, the chiefs of police and whatever said, well, we didn't want to stir racial fears.
But like you're saying, it took individual police.
Imagine being an individual police officers and there's horror stories, stories of angry parents showing up to these homes where their daughters are being assaulted this way and the police keep them out and they put them in cuffs.
And what gets me the most isn't just that the police accepted it, but what was the take of the English people, of the people in the UK?
They're like, yeah, that kind of sucks.
But you know who were really pissed at?
Tommy Robinson.
How dare you speak up!
If you notice it, it's the bigots.
We need to respect their culture and let the gang rape continue.
tim pool
Do you want to spin the monitor, I guess?
This is the story.
Dr. Phil tells View hosts about horrific fates for some migrant children at southern border.
The way we framed for the show, it's hard to see.
I'll shrink it down for you.
unidentified
Talk about the ultimate conspiracy, by the way.
How about a conspiracy to permit a foreign invasion into your country?
That's what this is.
tim pool
Quote, we are using American tax dollars to ship children to known prostitution and sweatshops.
I wonder if they have the clip here.
You want to hit the audio?
Okay, no, that's not what we want to do.
Let's try that again.
unidentified
Okay, let's try that for the third time!
tim pool
Fox News, we love you.
dr phil mcgraw
The union.
I asked him straight up, kids are coming over the border with numbers written on them, phone numbers and addresses.
Do we check those out?
He said, well, we call them.
Is it possible that we're sending them into known prostitution rings or sweatshops?
He said, it's not possible.
It is absolute.
We are using American tax dollars to ship children All children or some children?
And sweatshops.
unidentified
Some children.
dr phil mcgraw
Well, who knows?
unidentified
Okay.
dr phil mcgraw
We don't know.
I said, are you?
unidentified
So what kind of checking do they do?
dr phil mcgraw
So they call the number and say, do you know about this child?
They say, yes.
Will you receive them when they come?
Yes.
I said, is it possible that's a prostitution ring?
He said, we know enough to know that in a number of cases, it has turned out to be absolute sex ring.
tim pool
I just want to say, if it is one child...
That the institution of the CBP has trafficked into a sex ring?
I will do everything in my power, in my capability of advocacy to anyone in government at any point to dissolve and abolish CBP and we'll restructure it with a different kind of law enforcement.
Or better yet, maybe that's a little absurd, we do need law enforcement protecting our border.
So how about we just say the compromise here is Anyone who was involved in the single child who was transported into sex trafficking will get life in prison and a public trial so that everybody knows.
Now, how could it be?
That the head of the union knows for a fact.
It's absolute.
Some of these are sex trafficking rings for CHILDREN.
And there are still agents working the border saying, yes sir, thank you sir.
Because they are evil.
Evil men.
And I want you to understand the mindset, and I want you to really envision what this must be like.
To look in the face of your children and think, I will gladly sell another child into sex slavery to put food on the table for one more month for my children.
The kind of depravity and evil that must exist in the heart of that man is shocking to me.
unidentified
Let me just give a percentage of scorn to the political class on this also, which is to say the policy of invasion, and that is the policy today of a uniparty.
It's been the policy, frankly, for decades now.
What they are saying at the end of the day is they are willing to permit, like you said, child sex slavery, Americans being murdered, drugs flow over, terrorists come over the border, cartels to flourish in this country.
That's the price they're willing to pay.
They don't even necessarily view it as a price.
That's the price they're willing to pay for a permanent political majority.
At the end of the day, they are willing to sacrifice not just their sovereignty, not just the rule of law, The lives of countless unnamed Americans, in addition to the debasing of the law enforcement apparatus that is executing this asinine and anti-American policy and anti-human policy, immoral policy, evil policy.
All for a permanent political majority.
So what wouldn't they do for a permanent political majority?
And for me, I don't think it's a bug.
I think it's a feature, right?
This is the intended consequence.
My belief is that this is a bunch of people that are basically globalist.
They want a globalist system where nation states don't exist.
And the biggest threat to them achieving that is sort of the working and middle class in first world countries, particularly the United States.
And so what they want to do is demoralize.
I saw Tucker Carlson was talking about this the other day, our architecture.
And how it's designed to demoralize.
Every single thing in our life is meant to demoralize the working class, the people that just want to be left alone, the people that are business owners, the people that are trying to raise family.
It's all about eroding your identity.
Make you a victim.
Make you bow at the altar of them and say, yes, victimhood is the highest degree that I can achieve.
Once you do that, you erode the national identity and you can usher in this globalist system.
And the intent behind it, as far as I'm concerned, is a sort of neo-feudalism.
There are the haves and the have-nots, and they will give you bread in circuses as long as you listen to whatever they say.
Well, bugs in circuses.
tim pool
So we're there already.
I was playing poker with the boys over at MGM National Harbor last week, and we were all talking at this poker table.
It was a 2-5 table.
You guys know what that means?
Yep.
So for those that don't, it means there's forced bets.
The big blind is 5, the small is 2.
That every rotation of the board, that means 1 out of every 8.
It's an 8 person table.
Every 8th hand, you have to put $2 in, then you have to put in $5, but then it's free.
And, uh, so this is, this is, it's, it's, it's considered low, but it's $1,000 to buy in at the top, and I believe, I believe it's $500 at the bottom.
It could be, it might be $300.
But we're basically talking about people who aren't playing at the lowest point.
When you go to MGM, and you're playing poker, and you're playing the cheapest game, it's, it's 1-3, and you can buy in, I think, for $100.
Not that it's easy for anyone to do, and I'm surprised a lot of people do it.
But here I am asking these guys, how is it that there are so many people at this casino that can sit here with multiple buy-ins, $1,500 to, if you're playing $5, $10, $5, $10, you've probably got $7,500 on you right there.
I'm like, you can't even take that much money out of an ATM machine.
I don't have an ATM.
I'm a little redundant.
But, uh, the people there have fanny packs with thousands of dollars in chips, so if they lose their money, they can buy it back in.
And I'm like, who are these people?
In fact, the best part was, there was a 100-200 Nomax buy-in game happening in a private room.
On the board, open seat, you're allowed to go play.
And so we were talking about the economy, and it's funny, I'm like, it's really funny that these guys are telling me how bad the economy is, and I was like, I don't think the economy's bad for any of us here.
We're willing to put down $1,000 on a table knowing we might lose it to play a game for fun.
How is it that downstairs, because the pogrom's upstairs, I can't understand this, at MGM National Harbor, this is just south of DC, If you wanna play, they have table games.
Table games, or carnival games as some call them, these are gambling.
Poker upstairs, not gambling.
Skill game, some chance involved, but it's 80% skill, meaning sometimes you get screwed over, but typically if you know what you're doing, you're just gonna win money.
Downstairs, coin toss games, basically.
You want to play blackjack?
50-50.
Even if you're counting cards, you got a 0.5% edge to win.
You want to play roulette?
All random chance.
On all these games, you're sitting around 49% if you're playing perfectly.
You're flipping a coin every time.
One game, it's called Ultimate Hold'em.
Table game, coin toss game.
$200 for one hand.
$200 to play one single hand, which takes about a minute.
And the tables are full.
They're blackjack hands.
If you're lucky, you can find the $25 table, but they're typically $50 or more.
That means $50 for every single hand of blackjack, not including side bets.
You want to play the side bets?
Now you're looking at $100.
They have four card poker, $200 per hand.
I have no idea.
I am a wealthy man and I could not play these games comfortably.
You have to sit down with $5,000 to $10,000 to be able to play that game in a normal way.
You go to any other casino In Vegas, and they have cheaper games.
You can play Hand of Ultimate or Blackjack for five, ten bucks.
And then if, you know, uh, I play in Des Moines.
We play, uh, sometimes.
We don't go there anymore, the Hollywood Casino.
It's $25 for a full hand of, like, three cards.
It's $20, actually.
$10, and then five and five, and then it's 30 total if you play the full game.
I'm asking, who are these people downstairs?
Who can bring $10,000 to the table?
Just sit there for an afternoon.
How is this happening?
Because the have and have-nots has already started.
When you see videos on social media of young people being like, I can't afford rent.
I can't afford a place to live.
Then you go to a casino and you see a guy chucking five grand like it's trash.
It's because the have and have-nots has already, the split has already happened and it's going to get really, really bad.
It's going to get substantially worse.
unidentified
The one thing I'd say is also, DC area, and my one impression, I've gone to DC for 30 years, is how glitzy, now glitzy is both extremes and that's why it's sort of the perfect illustration of the progressive world.
world.
You have Uber wealth in Imperial City, which in my view should not happen.
That's not the ideal.
You would love it if Washington DC were a very humble, modest place, but no, it's glitzy and it has everything in New York and more.
And then Uber poverty, that is illustrated in a DC area casino of the Uber rich and the Uber poor.
What is that wealth generated from?
Do you think that's from making something productive that That's gonna help your life better widgets better services, or is it bilking?
America because what does money come from in Washington DC government and power at the end of the day?
You don't you wouldn't love it if that casino were a very modest casino with the type of games you're talking about not with these stakes and not with these buy-ins the fact that it is like that is the perfect illustration of what happens when you go down this route, which is Total extremes in wealth, in outcomes, in consequences of decisions.
And the globalist worlds that we're talking about, this dystopia, ends up just like all of the other third world countries of an uber rich elite that's totally insulated from the consequences of their decisions and everyone else living in bugs and bicycle land.
tim pool
So, real quick, outside of Atlantic City and Vegas, because those are the big gambling hubs, MGM National Harbor is the highest grossing casino.
So, obviously if you go to Vegas, revenues are through the roof because of all the tourism, but where that money comes from, it's DC.
Washington, D.C.
may be the hub for international illicit dealings.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
Not that MGM done anything wrong.
I'm saying people will certainly go play at that casino with their ill-gotten gains.
unidentified
And the richest zip codes around D.C.
All of the suburbs around D.C.
That shouldn't happen.
If we were a healthy country, these would be modest suburban towns around.
tim pool
This is a really great important point.
How is it that some of the top property values are the D.C.
suburbs?
unidentified
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
That's the reality.
unidentified
And you know what's funny?
It's not even about money.
So I live in rural Pennsylvania.
I live paycheck to paycheck.
Everyone I know lives paycheck to paycheck.
I used to bartend.
And the people that would frequent this bar, nine to five workers, they're making 10, 11 bucks an hour.
Now I will say, property values are way cheaper where I live.
But still, these are people working hard jobs, roofers, people that are working construction on roads, carpentry, things like that.
Society, in order to function, it will never be perfect.
There will be people that have more than others.
But we're willing to accept this deal, the people where I come from.
We're willing to accept it.
We do other things.
We talk crasser.
We watch sports.
You know, this is the stuff people did.
And that wasn't good enough.
Imagine being someone who saves all of your money up.
I live near Pittsburgh so to watch the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Then you turn on the TV and you buy the jerseys and you have to work three weeks just so you could go to one damn game.
Then you watch these millionaires tell you you're the problem.
Your country's the problem.
That's what's so offensive to me.
This is the first revolution in history that is directed from the top to the poorest people.
The problem's not Chase Bank.
The problem's not Nike.
The problem's not Starbucks.
The problem is that poor guy that can't afford health insurance and dental care that lives in Trump country.
He's the problem.
He's who we need to coalesce around.
And that's when I see people that are becoming, now their financial situation's getting untenable, where they can't even afford to pay their rent.
And we still act like these people are the problem.
They're the insurrectionists.
They're the people that need to be censored.
And I find it grotesque that no one wants to speak up for these people.
Which is why I think that, you know, I focus so much on this corruption because that's what it's about.
It's not just about getting Trump.
It's about demonizing this class of people because you need an enemy.
tim pool
Just a quick correction, MGM National Harbor is the highest grossing outside of Nevada, including Atlantic City.
So, MGM National Harbor, which is DC's casino, it's not in DC, it's just south of DC, makes more money than any casino in Atlantic City.
Atlantic City is a mini Vegas.
I mean, Atlantic City's a lot of fun.
If you've never been there, you go on the boardwalk.
They turned one of the casinos into an arcade.
So, you know, you can go on the rides and stuff.
But, uh, you know, I'm not surprised Atlantic City's not that big, but it used to be.
But it is pretty wild to me that outside of Las Vegas, the biggest casino is D.C.
It's not surprising.
I mean, it's just like, it's kinda obvious.
Fascinating degree.
Look at this.
884.46 million in 2022.
unidentified
And the question is, what is the wealth?
Why is there wealth in D.C.?
D.C.
doesn't produce anything.
There's no industry in D.C.
but politics.
It sucks the wealth out of everyone else.
And that's one of the richest towns in the country, basically.
And all the suburbs, the zip codes, the richest 25 zip codes in the country, I bet you a plurality of them are probably D.C.
tim pool
I don't think that's true because I think we talked about this before.
Some of the highest valued property value and highest grossing are around the DC area, but I do think it's still like New York and like Beverly Hills and stuff.
But let's look at this.
Highest income or what do you think?
Highest income zip codes?
unidentified
Just look up the areas that can't take illegal immigrants.
Uh, exactly.
tim pool
Rockland, Delaware.
Let's uh, let's richest and poorest zip codes.
Let's go for the richest and let's see how many, uh, the ten richest.
So, Illinois, Texas, California, California, Oklahoma, Delaware, Montana, uh, New Jersey, Kentucky, Illinois.
Uh, so, the closest we can get to is Delaware.
What about property values?
unidentified
Right.
What about property values?
tim pool
Right, let's try that one.
unidentified
Cause I think the property values is gonna be the...
tim pool
No, I was surprised to find there certainly are some of the wealthiest and most valuable properties, but I still think it's like New York, uh...
Let's find out.
unidentified
We're gonna get fact-checked here and proven wrong in real time.
tim pool
I think we talked about this like three or four weeks ago, because we were like, oh, that's surprising we would assume D.C.
Because many people have made that claim, but no, no, it's California, Massachusetts, New York, California, Florida, California, California, California, Washington, Medina, Washington.
Let's see, where do we get even, I don't think D.C.
even makes the cut.
Yeah, California and New York.
unidentified
Okay, well, that's a good thing, I guess.
Right.
tim pool
That being said, there are still, I forgot what it was because we went over this.
Someone mentioned that we had read somewhere that one of the highest valued, highest concentration of wealth was, it might be that highest concentration of wealth, because that doesn't necessarily change the, if it's a small zip code with two billionaires versus New York with five, they'll exclude it from the list.
But then you're wondering why so many millionaires and billionaires live in D.C.
So certainly it has its wealth, but anyone who's ever driven through any of the suburbs of the D.C.
area and looked at these homes, I gotta be honest, I would rather live there than Beverly Hills.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
All right, so another measure of this, because I just want to make sure I'm not crazy here.
So 2019 Fox Business article, maybe it's shifted, I can't imagine what a shift in the other direction, but richest counties in the U.S.
Nine of the 20 richest counties are suburbs of the nation's capital in Virginia and Maryland.
tim pool
Wait, what is it?
Richest?
unidentified
Richest counties.
tim pool
There you go, maybe not by zip code, by county.
unidentified
Yeah, counties.
I just want to make sure I'm not crazy here.
Either way, there shouldn't be wealth around Washington, D.C., period, full stop, because they don't produce anything that's good for anyone.
All they do is take.
Well, the Founding Fathers, the idea was that you went to serve, right?
Like, these were people that owned businesses and farms, and they were serving their country by going.
tim pool
Number 10, Arlington County, Virginia.
New York, Colorado, Howard County, Maryland.
Fairfax County.
There you go.
So the highest average incomes are around D.C.
That's the metric.
So I think the problem with richest zip code is that billionaires live next to each other and property value is it's going to be beachfront property.
But I think the best metric is median household income.
Some of the highest is the D.C.
Falls Church, Virginia is number two.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
Loudoun County, Virginia, number one for median household income.
And my friends, Loudoun County is literally the DC suburb.
unidentified
So you're totally insulated from the consequences of your policies if that's where you live.
tim pool
You know what's fascinating?
I was in New Zealand like a decade ago, and I was in Auckland.
Awesome, awesome, fun place.
Interviewing Kim Dotcom and Gareth Morgan, these two guys you may have heard of.
Gareth Morgan less so than Kim Dotcom.
Uh, Kim.com was in Auckland.
We decided to drive down and not fly down to Wellington.
So that we could interview Gareth Morgan, who's more of a political figure in New Zealand.
And he was famous because he said people shouldn't be allowed to breed cats anymore, because the cats kill all the birds.
So the media ran a story saying he wants to kill all your cats.
That's not true.
But I thought driving would be more fun to see the country, and we did.
When we got to Wellington and got the hotel and everything, I was like, wow, I could see the whole city.
And I was like, this is amazing.
I'm always fascinated by what is the economic drive for a city?
What does a city produce to sustain itself?
Do you know what Wellington produces?
Government.
That's it.
I think a lot of people understand this reality, but seriously, if you ever go to a city, I think it's always fun to ask, what is the economic driver of the city?
And what you'll find in the United States, very many cities are universities, military bases, and government.
And you look at a place like Detroit, Where it was auto manufacturing.
They did stuff.
And then when that all moved to China and Mexico, the state is destroyed.
They can't support their infrastructure anymore and it falls apart.
But fear not, my friends, for if you live in Loudoun County, Virginia, you ain't got nothing to worry about.
Your cheeseburger stand will always have customers because the government takes the money from the people who lived in Detroit and then uses it to pay the salaries of the people who are defense contractors and lobbyists or otherwise in the D.C.
suburbs so they can control your lives and buy the cheeseburgers of the people who live in the suburbs.
unidentified
We'd be remiss if we didn't say when you say that they're not held to the same policies.
I think it was Victor David Hanson, right?
One of my favorite quotes is, they'll never have the misfortune of living in the utopia they demand for you, right?
Like they have all these great schemes.
I mean, one of the funniest stories to me of the past couple of years was the illegal immigrants being sent to Martha's Vineyard.
Now, if you followed this story, There were 50 illegals, 50, right?
That only made it 48 hours.
Now in my impoverished town, if a school bus broke down with like a high school football team, we could take care of 50 young guys that were eating a lot of food.
No problem for a couple of weeks.
But the people of Martha's Vineyard, they could feed them Lucky Charms and Fruit Loops.
And then you remember that video.
It's one of the funniest things you ever see that woman going, Miama, Miama, like they're these greatest.
We did it.
We talked to the poorest for 48 hours.
tim pool
As of the 2020 census, I pulled up the Wikipedia for highest median income by county.
Loudoun County, number one.
Falls Church, number two.
Those are both D.C.
suburbs.
Three and four are California.
Number five is another D.C.
suburb.
Howard County, another D.C.
suburb.
Arlington, another D.C.
suburb.
So you have in the top ten, you have five of the highest median income counties and its surrounding D.C.
It's fascinating I think when you look at the highest property value, again, like, you're gonna get a giant megastructure owned by a billionaire or something in Hawaii, perhaps.
But the fact that the highest income on average, or median, it's all D.C.
unidentified
The problem is, at the end of the day, and this goes even to kind of the broader subject we're talking about, about the corruption generally across the regime, as I would call it, is How do you change the incentive structure to get it so that you have citizen legislators or something?
It's laughable to even bring it up because how are you going to get people to turn over their power and say, we don't want to concentrate at all here.
The more decisions I make about your life, the more power I get, the longer I'll remain in power, the greater wealth my family will ultimately accrue.
So how do you kill the incentive set?
Which pushes in the direction of more power and control over your life.
How would you attract people to positions of power who don't want power?
Again, this is the interesting Trump thing, because Trump loses everything and gains nothing by going for president, as we've seen.
I mean, if he wasn't running this time, there wouldn't be the lawfare against him.
None of these cases would ever be brought.
So you have to either be so rich or so famous that you can withstand all of these forces that push you in a direction that is bad, ultimately, for the public interest.
And that's where we are.
How do you change the incentive set?
One thing is you take over the institutions yourself and you wield power just like the other side does.
But at the end of the day, the game is rigged.
I mean, if you wanted to use the Las Vegas analogy, the house always wins.
So how do you change that?
Very.
You have to change your culture.
And how do you change your culture when the other side has the schools, the media companies in control of everything else?
tim pool
I do also want to point out, we talked about like the top 10 median incomes.
But if you go down the list of 100 counties, it's basically like as you slowly move outside of DC, the median income is still very, very high, but slightly lower.
So it's like Like Loudoun County, it's $140,000 median income.
If you go one county over, it's $120,000.
It's still one of the top 100 counties in the country.
Because the people who work in D.C.
are like, I'm only getting paid $120,000, can't afford to live in Loudoun, have to move down to Montgomery or something, and then be an hour away from D.C.
instead of 45 minutes.
unidentified
You know, it's funny too.
I think that we could go back for decades and say that this has been a problem that's been exacerbated, but we're actually beyond that now because you can theoretically be someone that's like, hey, I'll get into that game, I'll get to DC, but I'm just not going to toe the exact party line.
So like, you look at people that probably were people of means like Elon Musk or Brett Kavanaugh.
The lesson being taught now is it's not enough to just be in our team like, hey, we're all in on this.
Let's make money.
Now it's you have to toe the line completely or we will bury you.
We'll tell your children that you're a gang rapist and you're not allowed to coach their basketball team.
We'll go after Elon Musk, four different lawsuits with all of these organizations.
Like if you're Elon, if you're another rich person, why wouldn't you do the Mark Cuban thing where you're pretending to be pithy on X, When in reality, you're just proving yourself to be a moron because you get the virtue signaling, you know that, hey, don't worry, Washington's never going to investigate me for all of my practices like they are Elon, because I'm saying the right things.
tim pool
Real quick, I want to point something out.
So we here in our studio, we bounce between Washington County and Jefferson County and Berkeley County.
Jefferson and Berkeley are in West Virginia.
Washington is in Maryland.
Our new studio is in, it's all basically, it's all Berkeley County, I think.
Martinsburg, West Virginia.
A lot of stuff we're building.
The median income in Jefferson County, West Virginia is $35,000.
And in Washington County, the median income is $30,000.
This is not that far away from D.C.
Here's the best part.
Washington County is one of three counties that wants to secede from the state and join West Virginia.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
Something really fascinating about those who are lower income leaning towards Donald Trump and the ultra-wealthy leaning towards Democrats.
unidentified
Well, that's been the shift.
Like, the shift has been, we were told growing up, I'm almost 40, we were told growing up, oh, Democrats, unions, working class people, the Democrat Party is the party of the ultra-rich and the ultra-poor.
The Republican Party has become, and I have plenty to say negative about the establishment Republican Party, don't get me wrong, But the idea is working class people are tired of being demonized, tired of being told that, you know, I mean, just think of the things we've seen in the past few years.
We told working class people that they couldn't go visit their parents in nursing homes.
They couldn't have a funeral.
They couldn't operate their business because they weren't, you know, necessary for the functioning of the economy.
But illegal immigrants didn't even have, that were testing positive for COVID could literally walk across the border with no stopping whatsoever.
And so, People are now getting fed up with the fact that it's like, we see this bureaucracy and these constant, like, big government lefties, and we want something that's counter to that.
Yeah, and I would just say the divide is... First of all, what percentage of people do you think actually think about all the different issues that we would talk about in a show?
Small percentage, because they're focused on their daily life and putting bread on the... putting food on the table, sending their kids to a decent school, etc.
The cultural divide is far more telling.
And yes, it correlates ultimately with the economic outcome.
But if you go towards certain institutions and live a certain way of life and grew up in a certain area, your politics are likely going to end up as X. And if you didn't, they're likely going to end up Y. And so to your point, like, why was the Trump?
Why is the Trump movement so strong?
Yes, a huge part of it is Someone who's actually speaking for me.
Forgotten American, forgotten man.
The question is, will Republicans seize on this for the future?
The Republicans always seize victory from the jaws of defeat, so I wouldn't expect that to be the case.
But the culture, ultimately, is so telling, and you can almost predict what a person is going to think on any of myriad issues based upon are they Volvo driving, Whole Foods, Shopping, etc.
And by the way, I've lived around those people a lot of my life, so I don't begrudge them as individuals.
However, I hate their politics and their ideology, and ultimately it is the culture.
It's much more than- and like, why are the suburbs that used to be red, George W. Bush suburbs, now purple to blue?
It's cultural.
tim pool
Absolutely.
That's why we talk about all the times.
Why...
Our investments here at Timcast, cultural investments.
We don't have any non-profit get-out-the-vote initiatives or anything like that.
I really don't care.
I look at what's going on in D.C.
and I'm like, what are Republicans even gonna do?
Like, I do think Donald Trump winning would be a good thing.
No new wars.
Everything else is stamp collecting.
That's all I care.
If nothing else matters, if they said Donald Trump was, you know, kicked a dog, I'd be like, that sucks, but no new wars.
I mean, you gotta weigh the options.
If it's a bad option, but no new wars, man, I'll take it.
But in terms of investment, We wanna do this coffee shop where people can physically meet up, have a club.
New York has these social clubs.
California has these social clubs.
Ultra wealthy people spend 50 to 100K per year so they can walk into a room, ask for a dry martini or a Manhattan, look around the room and go, I know that guy.
That's the guy who runs Insert Magazine.
Then he walks over and says, hey, I'm the head of X at this auto manufacturer.
Love you guys, what you guys do.
Hey, we wanna work on a project together.
And boom, just like that in five seconds, you now are wondering how it is.
That this new car with this woke advertisement, or this new car has woke advertisement and there's this big campaign.
How are they, how are the institutions, because they all meet in one room and one person comes in and says, well, if you want to do the ad campaign with us, we're this big on DEI right now.
And they go, okay.
Then all of a sudden your favorite brands have now adopted it instantly because they're sitting next to each other.
That's what we got to do.
So Martinsburg, West Virginia.
We're, we're setting up at our Casper Coffee Ops location, second floor, we're gonna have a club where people can hang out, grab a drink, super low-brow relative to at least what they do, 100 bucks a month, unlimited access during open hours, you come in, Friday and Saturdays will be probably till late in the evening and we hope people come and people like us are talking about exactly this and talking about things they can work on.
It's not about politics.
It's about, hey, I got a new show I'm working on.
You do?
Well, we're looking for someone who can record.
You wanna record a few episodes for the new thing we're doing?
Something like that.
Or someone's like, I made a comic book, and then someone else is like, oh, we've got a distribution company.
We could easily make these.
Then all of a sudden, you're getting cultural expansion.
I'm not gonna pretend like a single coffee shop, social club, changes anything to a great degree, but setting up a lot of these things.
We wanna do the anti-Times Square in Martinsburg, where I am telling all these businesses, public square businesses, Get a brick-and-mortar shop in downtown Martinsburg.
Number one rule is no damaging any legacy businesses through competition or anything like that.
Mom-and-pop shops that have been there for a long time must be protected because we want to preserve the legacy of what it is, but we want to compete with the likes of ultra-garbage Times Square.
We want to create our own parallel economy, our own economic hubs, our own cultural centers.
We build this anti-Times Square.
There's a theater there.
Maybe someone eventually buys out that theater.
Probably going to be expensive.
They might resist.
They had a child drag show, a drag show with children, all ages drag show or something.
So it's going to be hard to try and win that.
But if we do, then we have the likes of, we're building effectively our own Hollywood.
We have our own Times Square with our own version of Broadway or whatever, and it's what it should be in this country.
Things we care about, real values, good morals, parallel economy businesses, and then, as we're already seeing, where the money goes, the people follow.
So if we start getting rich and making money, you're gonna get a bunch of young people who are sociopaths, And I'm not saying all young people are sociopaths.
I'm saying the sociopaths who are young and looking for a path towards wealth and riches will grift by emulating good morals.
It's not a good thing that this exists.
But what happens is when the left extremists come out and say, child sex changes, et cetera, sociopathic grifters flock to them and produce the content for them, which shifts the narrative in the country and terrifies people into thinking, I don't want to be on the wrong side of history.
This must be correct.
Once we start making enough money and genuine and disingenuous people realize the path to money is not in Hollywood anymore, it's in our parallel economy, then we control the machine.
And then the narrative shifts and we own the narrative.
unidentified
I am far more excited about the direction a lot of this country is going culturally than I am politically.
I think that the major problem politically is it is a uniparty at the top and the old guard neocons that still have leadership positions in the Republican Party are more concerned about maintaining their control over a losing party than allowing sort of a new guard of people to come in and win and be second class in a winning party.
For me, the single issue that I think is important politically is corruption.
Because if the system is corrupt and me and yours votes don't matter, It doesn't matter how articulate we are on abortion policy or gun policy, because who's really deciding the policy in the elections?
Well, it's all these institutions, the bureaucratic state.
tim pool
This is what bothers me about so much of the right and Republicans not articulating their positions.
I have tremendously more respect for my good friend Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes will tell me to my face, abortion should be federally banned in all circumstances, no matter what.
And I say, I disagree with you.
But I like that he's telling me the truth, he's a good person, and we disagree, and that's how it should be.
But too many Republicans refuse to say their position, and then you don't actually get the cultural argument.
How many people in this country would be swayed by the argument had they only heard it?
So, you know, there's that famous line from Harriet Tubman, I freed many slaves, I would have freed many more if only they knew we were slaves.
Or how about Steve Jobs who says, you know, how are they gonna know they want it if they've never seen it before?
Something to that effect.
So he makes a product betting people would like it, but the market research won't tell you they do because they don't know it exists.
You have to make that argument.
I think one of the most telling things is, let me see if I can pull up the data here.
Gen Z support for same-sex marriage.
Uh, let's see.
No, that's not what I'm interested in.
They're saying that Gen Z identifies as LGBT.
Uh, Christian Forums.
Uh, Gen Z support for gay marriage has dropped dramatically.
Poll, what's their source on this?
I covered this when it happened because it's from a few months ago.
And, uh, where, there we go.
The poll is from American Survey Center or whatever.
There's actually several polls that show this.
And I don't know what survey, uh, American Enterprise Institute, is that what this is?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Generation Z and the transformation of American adolescence, how Gen Z's formative experiences shape its politics, present, and future.
The reason this story became relevant, not that I like using single-source polling, was that there are numerous polls now showing that Gen Z's support for same-sex marriage has dropped to the lowest of any of the contemporary generations.
unidentified
Is that because of an overall drop in opposition to marriage or specifically same-sex?
tim pool
Specifically same-sex and an increase in support for more traditional values and things like that.
Now the argument could be said that many people on the right like to say Gen Z is becoming based and we're winning the culture war.
I actually think it has more to do with demographics.
Conservatives are more likely to have kids.
So this was, I predicted this seven years ago.
If in the year 2000 I did this whole you know half an hour thesis on well not thesis but like essay on in the 2000s they did a study and found conservatives had 2.05 children and liberals had 1.43 and I said the math is really simple then we're looking at three out of four kids growing up They're going to be, or I should say, you basically have just about 3, 3 out of 5 maybe, are conservative.
Slightly more than half will be conservative, maybe even 75%, because liberals don't have kids, they're more likely to abort their kids, and now with sex changes, they're more likely to sterilize their kids, which means 20 years from that point, the voting bloc will be skewed towards conservative worldviews.
We saw that in Pew Research.
Gen Z is still fairly progressive, but the first generation in a hundred years to actually slightly move right on several issues.
And now we're seeing opposition to same-sex marriage.
I don't think, overwhelmingly, it is because Gen Z saw an argument and went, that's correct.
I think it actually is many of these Gen Z people just grew up in more right-leaning families and were predisposed to those views.
That being said, I do think it's fair to say This is evidence that the right should articulate their arguments passionately, compassionately, and articulately because Gen Z may actually just say, you know what?
I think you're right about that.
There's an excellent video from Michael Knowles.
Michael Knowles, you are a genius.
I am so impressed by this guy.
Someone asks him, a trans person, about his view on transgenderism and things like that, and Michael Knowles articulately, passionately, and compassionately lays out his argument, masterfully done, as to why he says, I am sorry, I feel bad for you, I will never lie to you, I will try to make your life better, but you are being lied to and you will hurt yourself.
And I can't even do justice to how he said it.
It's a brilliant segment when he was giving this presentation at a college, I believe.
That's how it's done.
That's how it's done.
And young people hear it and say, you know, I never heard that argument before.
I think he's right.
unidentified
Well, there's so much... I can't believe how Republicans can't just grab the ring on that.
One of the arguments I used to make... Did they want to win?
That's the first question.
Think about this.
When I was volunteering for Trump's campaign, I sat in on a call in Pennsylvania.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This is what we're going to do.
I was in a little county.
I was considered taking a position with them.
It would have been a small amount of dollars, I assure you.
They said, are there any questions?
I said, what are we doing to reach out to groups that traditionally don't vote Republican?
They said, like, who?
I said, college students, single mothers, minorities.
You know what they told me?
I'm not making this up.
They told me on the phone.
They said, we're just interested in going after the low-hanging fruit.
And I was like, well, you've lost Pennsylvania.
One of the things I say to younger people all the time is, you want to know one reason to vote Republican?
I could give you the economic data, how Bernie Sanders, for his socialism, he ain't going to pay for it.
It's going to be you.
We're going to massively print this money.
You're the one that's not going to have Social Security.
But the best argument to me is, hey, do you like having fun?
Do you like telling dirty jokes?
Have you ever said anything inappropriate?
Because the Democrats, 40 years from now, when you go to take a position and they find out you don't agree with them in lockstep, they will bury you.
They will look up a comment you made in a yearbook and they will ruin you.
We will laugh about it and go, eh, maybe not the smartest thing to say.
tim pool
Those sorts of- These are the kids.
unidentified
We have fun.
These lefties I debate all the time, not all of them- They're joyless.
They are joyless.
They are the most miserable people I have ever seen.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, right?
In order to join the Democratic Party, they have to shove a stick up your ass.
unidentified
And they're good puppets with it too, so it works out well.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
A compelling counter-narrative, it might lose the day, but it's going to resonate with some percentage of people.
And that sows the seeds of minimally at least shifting the Overton window.
But if you don't put out anything, or worse, you let the other side define, you're going to lose every time, just definitionally.
tim pool
You know, it's fascinating.
I made this joke on Twitter that, uh, I just, I love the concept behind it.
I said, I'm torn on the issue of abortion.
On the one hand, it's killing a baby.
On the other hand, it's a liberal's baby.
It's a joke.
It is not meant to be serious.
It is meant to poke fun at the facts.
Well, the left got so mad.
It was a joke.
Most people on the right laughed and said, we're not going to get mad, Tim.
about this joke because they don't view babies. - Right, what are you upset about? - They don't view the unborn as babies.
The right is allowed to get mad, I accept that.
I'm like, okay, I get it, the right will get mad because I'm saying I advocate abortion or whatever, but I don't.
It was a joke.
Most people on the right laughed and said, we're not gonna get mad to him, we understand the point of the humor.
There were some conservative, like, grifter types, I guess, who were like, how dare you?
unidentified
Abortion is murder!
tim pool
And I was like, dude, joking about murder, the joke itself is predicated upon the absurdity of the claim.
It is funny because you know it's not acceptable.
That was the point of the joke, to make a statement that was funny in how liberals hurt themselves with these policies.
But the left still got mad with some accounts being like, you think it's killing a baby so you're bad.
And I was like, no, no, no, no.
I don't think it's, I don't think I'm killing a baby.
I think you're killing yourself.
Like you misunderstand the point of the joke.
I don't want you to do this.
I want you to live and be healthy.
unidentified
That's the joke!
I think you're right, ultimately, that the left shoots itself in the foot in a number of ways.
First of all, if you're not going to be fruitful and multiply, you're going to lose numbers.
And your communities are going to end up with violence and anti-social behavior and all the other calamities that we always talk about.
The one caveat is, among the elite liberals, or leftists, as Charles Murray talked about, I'm sure you're probably familiar with the book, in Coming Apart, he talks about that they don't practice what they preach.
So in other words, they say, live your life however you want to live your life, get a ton of abortions, etc.
But in their own lives, the elites of the elites live the most traditional, normie existences possible.
Which only points further to their total corruption, and how this, at the end of the day, is all about feeling good about themselves.
You guys live however you want to live.
We're going to do the virtuous thing out of our own moral narcissism.
However, in our own lives, we're actually going to live just like the conservatives.
tim pool
You know where this comes from?
Not completely, but partially.
I actually have a segment going up today on my TimCast news channel about people who don't have an inner monologue.
Have you heard this before?
People have no inner monologue?
Do you gentlemen have an inner monologue?
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
So when you think, you think in words.
It's almost like you're hearing speech.
So there's actually several different ways.
I did a bit more research on this after I recorded the segment.
There's several different ways in which people think.
Not having an inner monologue is not indicative of you being stupid or incapable, however.
But many people Because I think it's only like 26.
It's estimated maybe... There's a study that found in only 26 instances of a study were people actually experiencing an inner monologue.
Some estimates range as high as 50% of people don't have one.
It could be as high as 75.
The assumption then is people who don't think to themselves are NPCs.
Now, I don't think it's absolutely true because some people are visual, some people are more conceptual.
There's a bunch of different ways you can think, but you have to understand.
I do think...
If you are not thinking in coherent logic, meaning in your mind, understanding the words and placing them together, and it's more of an abstraction, then there's going to be a challenge in some perceptions.
You may be a genius at making music, but you're not good at math.
Things like this.
For many of these ultra-elites, why is it that they live these ultra-traditional lives while advocating for absolute degeneracy?
Because the people who are not smart enough to calculate the logic in their minds, or incapable of doing so, will decimate their numbers, and not be fruitful and multiply, and it's essentially a eugenics argument they have.
Alex Jones described it as, they lay bear traps before you, tell you where they are, and if you're not smart enough to figure it out, that's your fault.
unidentified
Yeah, Alex, my man.
Honestly, I do have compassion for those people, these people that are miserable that I talk to.
It's surreal.
I talked to a person one time, this is a true story.
I said, well, can you at least admit, I talk about a lot of problems and corruption and stuff, but we're very lucky to be born in the United States in this generation.
Human history has been suffering, so we're alive here.
We have a problem with obesity with poor people.
You know, like, that's a pretty good problem, considering most of human history.
And this person looked me straight in the face.
They were communists, by the way.
And they said, this is the worst time in the worst country that's ever happened in human history.
tim pool
Well, as soon as you mentioned communists, we knew their opinion was going to be bad.
unidentified
But what happens is, if you are a joyless person, then the things you advocate for are also joyless.
Like, I heard Jordan Peterson say this once.
Orwell wrote this book called The Road to Wigan Pier, and it was a serial that came out in a UK magazine or whatever weekly, and these socialists paid him to write it.
In the first half of the book, he talks about all of these workers live these horrible lives.
They work in these mines, they're all crippled, it's horrible.
But then the second half of the book, he's like, but these socialists, they don't care about them.
They don't care at all.
They're miserable, and all's they're concerned about is, there are people above them that are happy.
And that infuriates them.
And that's what so many... That's why the ideology of the people I debate on a regular basis, their core ideology is, I hate Trump.
That is it.
That is all they have.
You might ask them, well, what do you think about socialized medicine?
They'll have an opinion, but they'd give it all up to take out Donald Trump.
tim pool
Take a look at that clip we mentioned right at the beginning of the show with Destiny, the omni-liberal.
He's debating Benny Johnson and Dave Smith.
My favorite thing about Dave Smith is when he debates leftists or liberals, they always try to default to the, but Trump.
And Dave goes, I don't like Trump!
On Fox Business, there's that famous clip where they're like, oh, you Trump supporters.
I'm not a Trump supporter.
I'm not voting for Trump.
I don't like Trump.
And then in the Destiny debate, he says, oh, well, Donald Trump did that.
He's like, you guys will defend Donald Trump and then Dave's like, I'm a libertarian dude!
unidentified
It's like calling Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi right-wingers.
It's the whole thing.
Because if you're not with us, you are a right-winger.
You need to be smeared.
But at the end of the day, you know, the joylessness and why do people end up where they are politically?
I think for a lot of people on the left, at the end of the day, their ideology and their politics fulfills deep spiritual meaning for them that's lacking.
This is their religion.
This is their faith.
This is something that every day they turn to.
I'm in this ideological struggle and I'm on the side of the righteousness and good and justice, even though I don't believe in any sort of moral truths or anything like that.
This for them is the struggle.
They have to have this.
It provides them deep meaning.
And if you challenge it, it makes them nuts because you're challenging their anti-faith.
tim pool
It's a cult.
It is a cult.
And here's an example.
I'm going to play this clip.
We talked about it.
I'll play a little bit of it.
Here you go.
dave smith
OK, but you're arguing with something I didn't say.
I'm saying the official narrative was that it didn't come from the lab.
If you get the vaccine, you cannot get it and you cannot transmit it.
These were huge stories that were flatly wrong.
No, you're shaking your head.
That's not wrong.
unidentified
The official position of the NIH or the government was not that if you get vaccinated, You will never transmit it, and you will never get sick.
I know that there is- The President of the United States said it.
The one quote that people, yes, I'm aware- Fauci said that multiple times.
Anybody that honestly followed any of that- Fauci said it, Biden said it.
Or saw all of his statements, nobody actually thought that.
It is unfathomable to me that people that will make so many excuses for every single Trump gaffe will come out and take seven words quoted by the President.
dave smith
What excuse have I made for Trump?
unidentified
Oh my God, they said the vaccine was 100% effective, it would never, that's unbelievable.
Nobody really thought that.
tim pool
This is the problem people have with Destiny.
Because, if he was being honest, he'd make an argument more so, well, they were certainly wrong, and they were hyperbolic, and it was wrong of them to say these things, blah blah blah, and continue the point.
Instead, he defaults to, I will lie instead.
unidentified
That's an unbelievable position.
bill gates
During 2021, we should be able to manufacture a lot of vaccines, and that vaccine's key goal is to stop the transmission, to get the immunity levels up so that you get almost no infection going on whatsoever.
Everyone who takes the vaccine is not just protecting themselves but reducing their transmission to other people and allowing society to get back to normal.
unidentified
We can kind of almost see the end.
We're vaccinating so very fast.
Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick.
I think you need more than one sentence of a thing to see if they genuinely thought that the vaccine would be 100% effective.
tim pool
So it goes on to show many, many more clips from the CDC director, from Bill Gates, from Anthony Fauci, all saying what Dave said.
Dave is telling you the truth and saying, here's what I don't like about you.
unidentified
Here's Rachel Maddow.
You should have me on to debate Desi.
I've debated him many times.
2021, I had this debate, Biden versus Trump, Biden's record, right?
We talk about COVID for like an hour, right?
His big thing, and I've heard this over and over, I'm like, what would Biden have done better?
Because Trump was terrible in COVID.
So what was the Democrat plan?
You say Trump wasn't taking it seriously.
Democrats were saying go hug a Chinese person and you're xenophobic.
By the way, just to clarify, it was considered racist if you believe that Dr. Fauci in the United States helped fund a lab that created the virus.
The anti-racist position was Chinese people were backwards heathens that eat bats at wet markets.
So when I talk to Destiny about this and I'm like, and he's like, well, the vaccine, the vaccine is a big thing.
Now, regardless of what you all think about the vaccine, let's operate in that paradigm that the vaccine is the most important thing.
What did Biden do?
Trump brought along the vaccine.
Biden just increased the amount.
And he says, but it's about the signaling.
Biden and Kamala Harris said they didn't trust the vaccine right up until the moment that they won the election.
Then all of a sudden it was, never mind, we trust it and you should be forced to take it.
tim pool
And they flipped?
unidentified
And when he says, so he's like, show me the facts, show me.
And this is what the left, I show them the quote and it's like, oh, okay, anyways, moving on.
tim pool
Trump gets booed to this day over the vaccine.
They're like, Trump's a cult.
And I'm like, Trump goes to a rally and he goes, you know, we got the vaccine, we got it out.
And they go, boo.
And he's like, well, I know some people don't like it.
And Then with them, they come out and say, don't wear masks.
Then they say, wear masks.
Then they say, you've got all these tweets from Defiant Ls on Axe, a great account on Instagram, where it's someone saying, I will never take that vaccine.
You'll have to, you know, force me to over my dead body.
And the next one is, anyone who doesn't get the vaccine should be locked up.
unidentified
Fire them!
Yeah.
But because at the end of the day, it's all about power for them.
It's not about logic.
It's not about reason.
And you know what's funny?
I was thinking about as we're watching those clips, we're all kind of chuckling and smirking because it's like these apparatchiks.
And you know, and like that's our inclination from the start is these people are in power.
They have something to protect.
Why are they saying what they're saying?
Is it actually about what's in our interest and in their studied, you know, reasoned, objective view of the world?
But for the other side, authorities are God.
This is God.
Science.
Trust the science.
Science is our religion.
You know, it's like that South Park, oh my science.
And we're not anti-science, we're anti-politics.
It's their politicians dressed in garb of science, of doctors.
tim pool
But it's not, it's not pro-science.
I think it's, it's, the reason why I would call it a cult is that there's no core faith.
So, you know, a lot of people always like to say, like, what's the difference between a cult and a religion?
They try to make that point, and I'm like, well, like, religions have tenets, and they have history, and they have belief structures.
There are a lot of similarities between the world's religions.
They're not all identical.
Some are actually kind of bad and violent, and some are pretty good.
But there's a tendency towards certain concepts and ideas related to what makes something a religion versus a cult.
A cult, for instance, seems to be hollow.
There's no nucleus.
There's no faith base.
The reason why I call what the modern left is a cult is because There's no actual ideology.
They say, trust the science.
But when the science comes out and says, children should not get sex changes, what did they do?
This actually happened.
There was a university, I think it might have been Colorado, I'm not sure.
No, no, it might have been in Oregon.
Can't remember.
They put out a study saying rapid-onset gender dysphoria may be a cause as to why so many young people are claiming to experience dysphoria.
Activists and leftists attacked the university and forced a retraction on these articles.
So instead of actually saying, let's challenge the science, they said, delete it!
Do not allow it!
That's not science.
What they're actually saying is, we are a power base, and anything that opposes our power base is wrong.
That's not a religion.
That's a cult.
So, you know, in the past, Dr. Peter Boghossian, for instance, calls it a non-theistic religion.
And I'm like, there's another word for that.
unidentified
Cult.
tim pool
Cult.
To be fair, I mean, I wouldn't call Buddhism a cult.
It's more of like a spiritual practice.
And Buddhism isn't necessarily, it's interesting because it doesn't fall into the same faith bases as many other actual worldly religions.
But there is a higher power in a religion, and typically.
In the leftist ideology, they are God.
unidentified
Yeah, man is God.
Think about the issues.
tim pool
It's almost Satanist.
unidentified
You think about the issues.
For four years, the biggest story in this country was that Donald Trump was an agent of Vladimir Putin.
By the way, they're bringing it back, right?
And so the FBI had to break the law and illegally spy on his team using FISA warrants and this, that, and the other.
tim pool
But we'll deny that they did it.
unidentified
Right.
But we know they did.
The IG admitted it, right?
Horwitz admitted it.
So when you talk to these people and they're like, well, it doesn't matter.
You had to break a few eggs because the allegation that Trump got dirt on his opponents... It's like the UVA rape thing.
Right.
The allegation that Trump got dirt on his opponents from Russia is so severe.
And so how did they set out to prove it?
By Hillary Clinton paying to get dirt from an alleged Russian spy named Igor Deschenko to spy on Trump.
They literally did exactly, they knew, the FBI knew, exactly what they were accusing Trump of is what Hillary's team did.
tim pool
Final thoughts as we're getting closer to wrapping this up.
The argument then becomes, Republicans should remain steadfast and What's the right word for this?
Stoic.
Not go after Joe Biden.
Not file the criminal charges so they can say with honor to the American people, we are the knights of justice.
We will not abuse the system.
We will not destroy this country.
Vote for us.
And if we win this way, we can restore this nation.
The other argument is Republicans need to fight fire with water.
They need to actually start going after Democrats, arresting Joe Biden.
Uh, what do you think makes the most sense in this regard?
Stay the course and remain calm and, look, if we impeach or arrest and charge Joe Biden, they play the sympathy card, or swap him out.
Let Joe Biden lose an election he can't win, is the argument, don't charge him, but then you're not actually fighting the fire, you're hoping the fire burns itself out.
unidentified
It's not going to burn itself out.
Look, if anyone, I understand looking into these cases is very difficult.
When I talked to the people on the left, they said the smoking gun evidence in the Donald Trump classified document case was, he told a journalist on tape that he had classified info.
He didn't say that, but that's what they said he said.
tim pool
It's a total lie.
unidentified
Joe Biden did it three times and then proceeded to read the classified evidence.
And he was not charged for that crime.
And not one of those people have spoke up.
Not one of them have said one tweet, one message.
I haven't heard.
And I talked to dozens of them.
tim pool
It was also speculated.
Uh, when they said that Trump told a reporter he had classified documents, they are lying to you.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
What Trump, what you hear in the tape is he's got some kind of papers and he says, oh, this one I could have declassified, I didn't.
He's not necessarily even referring to a document in his hand that's classified.
The statement they gave out was that he had a bunch of news clippings.
It is a fact.
The boxes he had had news clippings in it.
Now, whether or not he was holding the classified documents or a news clipping, we don't know.
But the left will tell you, the Democrats will tell you, it was the document.
The right will tell you, he held up a news article printout and said, about this story, parenthesis, he said, I could have declassified this, referring to the story about classified information, he did not declassify it.
unidentified
Even if it was classified, is waiving it?
I mean, this is show me the man and I'll concoct the crime.
I mean, this stuff would never even be an issue if it were anyone in good standing with the regime.
To answer the fundamental question, at the end of the day, There's no honor or dignity in losing to liars, cheaters, thieves, and at the end of the day totalitarians who want to take away everything that you hold dear and indoctrinate your kids and grind your country down to dust.
There's no alternative but to fight fire with fire or water because ultimately at the end of the day, Suicide should not be an option.
Suicide is not moral.
You owe it to the people who gave us this country and future generations to fight like hell against people who want to destroy this place, or you're a disgrace to your country and you have no self-respect or dignity or honor.
tim pool
What if the argument is, it's not that we're saying don't fight back.
I'm typically of the view like, I think we need to charge Joe Biden, we can't have this double standard.
But perhaps the argument is, we are waiting in ambush.
unidentified
You're talking about tactically.
tim pool
So right now the idea is, if we do, if we charge Joe Biden, perhaps they then bring in Gavin Newsom and get an opportunity to boost themselves in the polls, because Biden sucks.
Or, they then come out and say, see, they're gonna start charging their political enemies, and of course that narrative doesn't reach everyone in the country, they'll use it to indoctrinate.
I actually think it makes sense to criminally charge Joe Biden.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
But the argument being, once we win the election, then the gates of hell be unleashed.
unidentified
Listen, I'll say this real quick.
It is my heartfelt belief that Donald Trump thought that the Hunter Biden laptop story was a nail in the coffin.
Everything they accused him of.
And I think that Bill Barr was telling him the whole time, don't jump the gun.
Justice will be served.
But you don't want them to say that you put your thumb on the scale.
And I think when When he saw that story break and then they censored the New York Post story, I think that's when he started to realize, I made a huge mistake.
I should have taken the brass ring.
I should have unclassified all the documents of the coup that the FBI engaged, but instead he listened to Bill Barr.
It would be a mistake to say, well, we know Biden committed these crimes and we know that this is a double standard, but we're going to hold back.
It will bite them in the butt if they do it.
tim pool
Gentlemen, that is about our time.
This has been fun.
This was a great conversation.
Do you guys want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, subscribe to my substack, winegarden.substack.com.
I write there and a whole host of other places, and follow me on Twitter at bhwinegarden.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
I'm on Twitter, you can find me there, or X, I guess we're calling it now, at robnorr, N-O-E-R-R.
Also on YouTube, Twitch, I stream almost every weeknight.
Love debating these lefties like Destiny.
I think I wreck them all the time, so tune in, I think you'll enjoy it.
tim pool
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