The Culture War #12 - Kari Lake, Running For AZ Senate, Trump VP Picks, And Saving the US
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Yeah, it was supposed to be an hour and a half and then something weird happened like 40 minutes in they jumped to a commercial which was odd for a town hall and then they come back for like 10 minutes then jump to commercial again then come back and it was 69 minutes and they shut it down.
Maybe the way to answer that is I refuse to answer that question.
And then the headline is, Trump refuses to talk about 2020.
I mean, it goes against what they've been saying forever.
But, you know, I think you talked about VP and I think what Trump needs for a VP, first of all, the fact that the media is asking about that means that they're acknowledging he's going to be the nominee.
Well, so right now there's, in terms of the presidential race, well, I'll pause right there and say, there's conversations around you and there's still the work that's going on in Arizona, but also potentially a Senate run, which we'll get into.
But I wanted to start off with this because the big conversation is, you know, Trump or DeSantis.
People are fighting over it.
They're online.
They're saying DeSantis is better because he attracts moderates, but then the Trump supporters are saying DeSantis is not strong enough and Trump needs to finish this out.
I do think there's a big net positive with a Trump-DeSantis ticket in that when I talk to moderates, when I'm hanging out in the city or whatever, there's concern over Trump.
I've heard from independents being like, oh, I'm just so tired of Trump.
Then I said, what about a Trump DeSantis ticket?
And they're like, well, okay.
My issue with DeSantis, though, is I'm not sure he's strong enough for what's lying ahead.
And the reason why I said I think you should be the VP is because with all due respect to Trump, I think you're much like him in terms of strength.
But media savvy, right?
Trump is good at taking down the media and fulfilling that cathartic release for people who have been lied to.
But you, coming from media, actually know how to handle them really, really well.
It's fun when I'm actually, in some ways, I like the hostile interviews.
And they just never, they never understand that if you're going to throw that kind of bias toward me, I'm going to call it out because I understand what they're doing.
I see what they're doing.
And I will just call them right out to their face.
So, you know, I thought Trump was great in the debate.
It was interesting, you actually, I would say preliminarily, won.
You presented this lawsuit, you have a bunch of claims, the judge throws out most of them but lets a few of them go through, and you see this interesting media dynamic of The corporate press said Carrie Lake loses, but that's inaccurate.
The judge actually accepted some of the claims, and in a lawsuit, this is normal.
You'll go with a lawsuit, you'll say, here's 20 arguments, and then you'll say, these two are good, and that's part of the process.
So they try to frame it as though you lost, when actually it's moving forward, and in a couple hours after, from the time of recording this, by the time this airs, you will be in court.
And this is the same legal system in New York that they just tried President Trump under on a 20-year-old charge that really sounds made up.
I mean, it does.
I'm sorry.
I read through it.
And every person should be horrified.
Every single human being in New York.
I mean, you could just have a made-up charge thrown your way, and it can ruin your life.
But it won't because they'll only go after someone like President Trump.
They have to stop him.
They have to stop him because he wants to turn things around and that's what it's about.
I don't feel safe in American cities right now.
Phoenix is dangerous.
It wasn't so long ago we were driving downtown to the Capitol and we got into Phoenix and for about 10 minutes we're driving and I was looking out the window and I was like, I have not seen one person walking on the street except for homeless people.
And this is why I put forth really bold plans when I was running a policy to address chronic street homelessness.
This is a serious problem.
These people are danger to others and they're a danger to themselves.
And I've said it before, God didn't envision any one of us living in a tent on the street with a needle in our arm.
And we can help these people and we can help them get better.
If we care enough.
And we can make them contributing citizens, but we can't do that with a wide-open border and a never-ending stream of drugs coming in.
And that's why it had to go in conjunction with a great homeless policy.
We have to shut down the criminal activity that the narco-terrorists are pulling at the border.
And that's huge right now with Title 42 expiring and where we're going with that.
So I want to get to that.
But let's start here with the homeless problem.
Every city is basically seeing this.
D.C. is seeing it.
What do you think we could do to—I mean, look, I want to help these people, right?
We want them to go from being sleeping in a tent with a needle in their arm to a productive member of society with a smile on their face with a good life.
For starters, like I said, you can't do the homeless policy unless you're dealing with the drugs pouring in.
Because you're going to get someone clean, and then there's just drugs on every street corner.
So you have to go really hard.
We have to start going after crime.
If you go to Phoenix, I think the number might be a little bit off.
200, 300 individuals who commit 90% of the crime.
And it's just a rotation.
They're booked, they're in and out of jail, charges dropped.
We have to start going after the people who are committing most of the crime and actually have consequences for their actions.
We can't keep just saying, well, all right, we'll dismiss those charges.
We've got to start locking people up who commit crime.
Some of the people who have gotten clean the fastest are the ones who end up in jail.
But we also have to make sure that when they get out we're able to help them find work and become contributing members.
So many people get out of prison and they can't find work.
So I believe in bringing down the recidivism rate so that they don't end up on drugs back on the street again.
But encouraging people to get treatment, and if they don't, then going after them for trespassing, going after them for any violent crimes, any public nuisance.
We have to start addressing the behavior with serious consequences.
Well, if you don't think that you can destroy a society and a civilization with drugs, then that's a really good...
You know, history lesson to look at that because you really truly can.
I don't know if it's enacting revenge for opium wars.
I think they are trying to destabilize America because they do want to become the dominant world power and with feeble, weak, impotent Joe Biden in office.
I'm talking about his leadership.
We're not going to have somebody who can beat back the CCP and Trump could do that.
You know, really quick on the drugs thing.
Why do people use drugs?
We've seen the crumbling of the family.
The family unit's been crumbling for decades now and a lot of it started with sending our jobs overseas, ending manufacturing, shutting down factories.
Dad lost his job.
Dad's depressed.
The family unit struggles.
They're financially struggling.
You know, sometimes it resorted to crime or getting involved in behavior that wasn't appropriate or a divorce ensued.
And we've been seeing this for decades and it hurts the family structure.
We just came from Budapest, Hungary, where CPAC was going on and I was blessed to speak over there.
I've never been in a city that was more clean, safe.
The children are running around.
What they did about 10 years ago is they started to say, we're going to strengthen the family unit.
We're going to encourage people to get married.
We're going to encourage people to have children.
And we're going to, instead of giving people tax breaks and welfare for sitting home, we're going to give you tax breaks if you get married.
How about a tax break when you get married?
And I think they have a 16% flat tax.
When you have your first child, we bring that down a percentage.
When you have your second, it goes down two more percent.
And if you're a mother who has four children, what they do there is they say, you will never pay taxes again.
We talk about Hungary, and they did this great tax incentive program where you don't pay any taxes if you have, what is it, four kids or something like that?
And they also give tax breaks to grandparents who decide that they want to Go and help take care of the babies, the grandbabies.
It's really a beautiful thing.
Of course, people would have their heads exploding here if we talked about that, but we need to start encouraging strengthening families because so many of our societal ills come from the fact that the family has been weakened.
It feels like we are in a great cultural war in this country where you have two factions.
Within those factions, you have different factions, but what the left or the media would describe as right-wing is actually relatively
Broad you know someone someone like me who's traditionally liberal can sit down with a conservative and be like yeah family strength in the country you look at You look at the data on politics liberals and conservatives used to be over they would overlap about 80% of political issues That whole group now is called right-wing and the left I view as a chaotic and destructive force that is illogical and dangerous for example Ocasio Cortez is blaming
Daniel Penny, who is the victim of violent crime, she's blaming him for the death of this man who was actually the aggressor.
When you have politicians who seek to implement an inverted policy blaming victims and destroying this country, how can we implement a policy such as tax incentives for mothers who have more kids when you're actively fighting against someone who's trying to destroy the system, destroy the country?
I mean, and this is why I think we need to really work on things like my court case, which I won't get into all the details, because we want to make sure that when we do go and cast a vote, that it's being done fairly.
So I'm going to leave it at that, because I know the format that we are at the show.
That's really important, and that's why I'm continuing to fight for that, because we have to have that in order to secure our country.
But, you know, I think we can work together on this.
I would hope that AOC cares enough about the families in her district, she's representing families, that we could say we want to support them.
You know, so many women are making a decision to do something like have an abortion.
And because they're afraid they don't have the money for the baby, they can't afford their own living expenses, let alone feeding another baby, or feeding a baby, and raising a baby.
And so in Hungary, this is amazing, they didn't change the abortion laws, but they cut the number of abortions in half because they actually started supporting families.
Think about that.
If we didn't touch abortion, we didn't touch any of the laws.
And we brought down abortions by half because we actually said, what is it that's making you want to make that choice?
And how can we help?
We want to make sure that we have healthy families.
And liberals live in families too.
Ocasio-Cortez came from a family.
I would certainly hope that she thinks it's important to have strong families.
I don't think it's a left or a liberal, conservative, right-wing thing.
But again, you have to be willing when you're making a case like that To stand up and take the heat.
Viktor Orban, the Prime Minister, has been called every single name in the book.
They call him a fascist, they call him a Nazi, you name it.
And you know, you hear that and you think, oh my gosh, if I go to Hungary, it's going to be terrible.
It was the most delightful place I've ever been.
I loved it.
And I had a chance to talk with him for close to an hour.
We talked about policy, how he brought people together to implement these policies.
He recognized we have to strengthen the family.
The left is pushing right now Anti-family.
They're pushing to take parents' rights away.
They're pushing to have children doing gender modification.
No, but there's some evil people out in the world, but they're the exception, not the rule.
I know many women who got pregnant, some of my good friends today, and their kids are, you know, 9 or 10 years old, and they tell me they were scared and unsure, and the doctor said, abortion's always an option, and they didn't know what to do.
I have one friend who was told, you are not medically capable of doing this, and it could cause you, you could die.
And ask them now, would you have preferred to have gotten an abortion?
That was my argument, by the way, when I was running and people were just constantly, the media was like, where do you stand on abortion?
I'm a pro-life, okay?
I want to save as many babies as I can.
I've held my own children in my arms and I know it's a beautiful gift from God.
Let's try to help people.
Like I said, let's try to help women who are finding themselves in that position where they go, I can't do this.
How can we help?
Save as many babies as possible.
And it should be up to the state to decide.
I believe that.
But what we should do is try to support women so that when they're faced with a pregnancy, they can make a good choice that they're going to be able to live with the rest of their life.
Well, leftists typically don't like coming on and talking because they end up looking bad.
And I think he did end up looking bad, but I respect that he was brave enough and sure of himself enough to actually come and talk.
But something really interesting happened that resulted in a viral moment for us.
Where he said, I ask him, I ask many of these leftists, should a woman be legally allowed to abort a baby, ending its life, at eight and a half months?
They say, yes.
Now typically what they'll do is they'll give some wishy-washy answer.
I'm traditionally Democrat pro-choice, but they've never given me a reason why they think it's acceptable to end the life of the baby if it could survive on its own.
And Unity says, you're in favor of forced birth.
You know what I said?
I said, define birth.
And he goes, huh?
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The baby's there, it has to come out, why kill it?
Well, I mean, we could go into a lot of these cultural things.
And it shouldn't even be cultural, it's just like common sense stuff.
I mean, we talked about children being talked into sex changes.
And I think we've gotten so polarized politically that the left is like, I will double down, I'm going to double down, I don't want to be wrong on it, no matter how crazy things get, where they go, okay, the child's gender confused.
Should they be allowed to use this bathroom or that bathroom?
Yes, absolutely, whatever they say.
Now it's getting to a point where they're having surgery.
The children are having surgery.
The 14-year-old girl or 15-year-old girl is having her breasts removed, having a hysterectomy.
We pull this up during a debate on the show with another liberal lefty guy, and he's like, how many girls are people getting surgery?
They say, no, minors aren't getting surgery.
Kim Petras in Germany.
I know Germany's not the United States.
16 years old, biological male, sex change surgery.
Jazz Jennings in Florida.
So I don't know if the initial surgery Jazz got was in Florida, but Jazz has received gender alteration surgery, because this is like the third one, I don't know what you'd call it, but gender modification or genital modification surgery in Florida, and this is in the United States.
Jazz Jennings initially got the operation at 17 as a minor, But we bring this up and it's the a couple thousand teenage girls in the United States over the past four years have received double mastectomies.
It is in the several couple thousand, I think it's about two to three thousand.
And the response from the left is, oh, well, that's not that much.
Well, and it is happening and there's big business and there's big money behind it.
And you see the advertising.
I've seen it at hospitals in Arizona advertising for whatever they call it, gender reaffirming surgery.
They're advertising it.
And we saw an ad not that long ago, we posted about it, where they're talking now with toddler age.
Your toddler can have gender, I don't know what their term is.
Confusion.
They can be transgender from a very young age.
They're trying to get parents to start pushing this on their kids at a very young age when they're three and four years old.
What happens is, and I've talked about this many times before, our children's minds are malleable.
There's a reason that our beautiful little five and six and seven year olds get real excited around Christmas time about somebody coming down the chimney.
And it's a really fun, beautiful thing that shows you how malleable our children's minds are.
Then you send them into school and they have somebody who they trust, the teacher or somebody at school, a counselor.
They're having a bad day, they're afraid, they're psychologically struggling, or they're seeing that they're talking about all this gender stuff and they're like, well, look, if you change genders, if you want to be a different gender, you get more attention.
Kids want attention.
How do you get ahead in this world right now?
Meritocracy is dead.
It doesn't matter if you're a great scientist, mathematician, if you're a great athlete, that's not enough anymore.
It's not enough to be good at what you do.
You have to do something like change your gender to get ahead or get noticed in this world.
We have a story where one of the people who work here and a prominent personality said that when she was living in a liberal area, her daughter likes playing sports, plays football.
So without telling her, they went to the daughter and said, you're a lesbian and you're a boy.
And so this young girl who's like, I think she's 10 or so, comes home and says this to her mom.
And then the mother says, do you know what that means?
You know, if somebody lives in California, and they're of moderate politics, They don't want kids getting sex changes.
They think abortion.
I am traditionally liberal on the abortion issue, which is, it used to be safe, legal, rare.
There were rare circumstances where bad things were happening, and we leave it up to the mother and the doctor to come to the right conclusion.
Now, it's either... On the right, I have conservatives who are pro-life telling me, well, let's talk about that, Tim.
Maybe, like Trump said, some people say six weeks, some people say eight weeks.
Why is Donald Trump coming to me and offering me a negotiation and a compromise where we can find a place to live together, and the left is saying abortion at any point, for any reason?
But so if people who hold any kind of views in terms of reasonability or being reasonable, if they move from a blue state to Georgia, Ohio, or Wisconsin, they would turn those states red.
We don't want Democrats, you know, in California complaining about crime, moving to Florida and turning it blue.
But what we're seeing is Florida has just become reliably red, which means come 2024, we don't got to worry about it.
It's going to vote.
It's going to go Trump.
But Georgia, Wisconsin, and Ohio are major, are pivotal swing states.
If you live in New York or California, your vote's not going to do anything in terms of winning this culture war, and you're putting yourself and your family at risk with the increasing crime violence.
So I have... I think most people who follow my show agree with me.
It's not just me saying it, it's Jack Posobiec who said it before me.
Get out of the cities.
But there are a lot of people, they like doing this thing where they say, it's easy for you to say, Tim, you're successful and you're wealthy.
Let me just, I'll tell everybody on this show, it costs... Let me ask you, how much do you think it costs to have internet in this building where we are?
The internet we have is equal to or less than home internet in New York or Philly or any major city.
It costs $3,000 per month, and I believe it was about $30,000 upfront to build the infrastructure.
I could have purchased a building in New York, in the outskirts of New York, or in Austin, or in one of these liberal cities, and it would cost me $100 per month to have the internet.
But I decided a few things.
The cities are getting out of control.
My vote has less of an impact.
I don't want to build an economic system in a place where the beneficiaries are evil people.
So we initially wanted to build all this in New Jersey, In the South Jersey area, which is moderate.
It's moderate to conservative.
We had Jeff Van Drew who switched from Democrat to Republican.
We weren't in his district, but we're in this area.
So this is an opportunity to push back.
The problem though is all the tax money we generate would be going to Very evil people.
And so ultimately I said with the crime, with the riots, we need to go somewhere else.
Now we're still about an hour away from Washington D.C., from Baltimore, so we're still in a relatively metropolitan area, but we're now in a right-leaning purple area where our employees who move here Our votes help push back the influence from the cities into a red state.
People need to understand this about West Virginia.
It's the second most Trump-supporting state in the country, but in the eastern panhandle, liberals from D.C.
are moving here as refugees to get away from their own bad policies and then voting for it here.
So we've got to have some pushback.
So I know that not everybody can do this.
Not everybody can leave where they are.
It's very, very difficult.
But we really do need people to consider, to whatever extent, it may be one of the most difficult things you've ever done in your life, but to go to a place where your vote has a huge impact.
There's a lot of conservatives in Eastern California going up all the state to Larry County, for example, and they're being mercilessly beaten by Democrat policies.
And you know, they've called me every name in the book, extreme, right wing, far right.
You know, so far we have been right about everything.
But I would just challenge people, don't get caught up in that.
Look at the policies.
This is why I'm so impressed with President Trump right now.
And I was so angry that the town hall didn't concentrate on his policies.
And I guess the only little criticism or suggestion I would have made to him is to pivot away from her hostile line of questioning and bias toward his policies to say, you know what?
You really want to keep talking about the past.
I want to talk about Agenda 47, which is going to strengthen our families.
And this is how.
We're going to bring down the housing prices so that young people can afford to buy and build a home.
We're going to increase the funding that goes to our police department so that our streets are safe.
Here's what we're going to do in schools to make sure they're not indoctrinating our kids.
You know, you have to, with these people, pivot them away from their own insanity.
This is why I said right when we started, I was like, before the show started, I said, I'm gonna go heavy.
You should be VP.
And the reason is messaging.
You have so many viral moments where you turned the media's trick back onto them.
So one example I think of in terms of this town hall is, if it were me, And I was sitting there and Caitlin Collins said, let's I want to ask you about 2020.
I would say, look, you know, I'm not the president right now.
I want to be the president in 2024 because the economy needs help, the border.
And then when she goes, no, no, I want to go back to 2020.
I've experienced working for companies that have tried to do this.
When I worked for Fusion, which was ABC News, Univision's joint venture, I said, look, I report the news.
They said, for the first eight months or so, they were like, you know, do your thing, report the news.
And then at some point they brought in a new editor-in-chief whose Twitter profile was down with whiteness.
And they said, we want to side with the audience.
And my attitude to these people was, look, I'm gonna go on the ground, I'm gonna tell you what I see, I'm gonna talk to people, ask them how they feel, I'm gonna show you what the police are doing, that's it.
I am not going to lie, and that's what they wanted.
I asked the president of this company, when he told me to side with the audience, I said, are you telling me that if there is a factual news story, But it would offend our audience, we won't cover it.
He said, I think that's fair, yeah.
And I was like, ultimately, I won't do this, and I think I should leave the company.
And they wouldn't let me, because I signed a contract.
Well, people are saying, look, we don't get nearly as many views as Tucker does, but we do get comparable views in the key demographic and we're on at the same time as him.
So, Tucker gets nuked from Fox News.
Now we see this wave of negative press from me.
The other thing that happened was a juror in the E. Jean Carroll rape trial, Trump, said that he had seen three or four episodes of Timcast.
That was enough for them to try and get him disqualified from the jury.
And for some reason, New York Times, Politico, and a whole bunch of news outlets, Daily Beast, picked the story up.
Yeah, like the best thing for everybody is ending this war, but you have people who are proud or indoctrinated.
But I've been using a lot of poker analogies lately because I've been playing quite a bit and I love this.
You watch professional poker players and you can see what cards they have.
And you can tell, one of these guys is going to lose.
The other guy is going to win.
But that guy who's gonna lose is convinced he's gonna win, so he takes everything he's got and he shoves it in, and the commentator's going, no, oh no, oh he's walking!
That's how I feel with Ukraine.
That the West is in a no-win scenario, but they are determined, no matter what, to just put it all on the line.
So right now you have that story about the drone attempt on Putin's life.
The two drones flew over the Kremlin.
They blew him up.
Was it a false flag?
Is Putin lying?
We don't know.
Putin says, or Russia says it was the U.S.
that did it.
A former CIA official said this is U.S.
all over it.
If Putin decides to escalate in such a way that he says the U.S.
tried to take my life and the U.S.
formally joins the war, if NATO formally joins the war in Ukraine against Russia, YouTube will outright issue a new rule saying Lying about US war efforts in Ukraine is a bannable offense.
And then when you factually report it, they'll take you down.
And this is how this is the march into World War Three.
And it's it's not being done.
Happenstance, oh, oops, there is an effort to do this.
And this is why the people of Hungary are so opposed to the war, and they're trying to offer- They're in a firing line.
They're trying to offer their country, Budapest, their city, capital city, as a place for peace talks.
And the rest of Europe doesn't want it.
They're the ones who are gonna be closest to the action.
Yep.
And there's just, it's very, very concerning.
And this is why, and I was talking a little bit, the culture war is absolutely huge, and I've been all over it for a long time.
But while we are so busy talking about the Cold War, which is massive, we need almost more hours in the day to cover all the craziness, while this is all keeping us very busy, we are being marched into World War III.
And we're watching an invasion at our border, completely destabilizing our country.
We're going to be spiraling into complete chaos.
And we're really worked up over a lot of things in the cultural war, which are important, but it's a lot easier to spend time for these news networks to spend time covering that ad nauseum because they don't want to cover what's happening in Ukraine.
This is a reference to whenever a dominant economic power is about to be displaced by a rising economic power, war breaks out.
It's a tendency, not a law.
Meaning, I think out of 16 historical moments, 12 have resulted in war.
There's a fear that the U.S.
will go to war with China because China is very close.
I think their economy right now is at 17 trillion to the U.S.
is 23.
And with Biden's policies, it went from like China will supplant the U.S.
by 2036 to 2028.
It's rapidly sped up.
So I wonder if one of the reasons we are seeing the border collapse, the economy collapse, the reason why you see the Bidens going for Chinese investments, I'm not saying it's true or I know but you put these pieces together and you're starting to get a hint of powerful establishment interests are investing in China and have been for decades because perhaps they're preparing to tank the U.S.
on purpose in their minds preventing war and then putting all their money in China as a safety net so when China rises they're rich.
Basically their view is if we keep investing in the U.S.
war will break out or is a high chance that it will.
Our best bet is to intentionally destroy America and move all of our finances to China in the process.
So that way America falls, there's no war, and then we're rich in China.
I have to wonder why it is that Hunter Biden flies to China for private equity deals and at the same time Joe Biden's policies are destroying this country.
Yeah, take what we can and try to come out on the other side as part of the haves, not the have-nots.
I think this is why it's so critical the next year and a half, Tim, that we Yes.
Fight for what we have in this country.
We can turn this around our constitution They you know, they would love nothing more than to push this globalist agenda.
We're all just one big globalist blob We lose our culture.
I want to see 190 countries with strong leaders.
Yes I've mentioned this before strong leaders who protect their citizens who protect their culture And you go to England they were asking me we were in England recently and they said what'd you think of the coronation? I said I said, look, the monarchy is not for us.
Thank God.
We threw off the shackles of the monarchy, you know, nearly 250 years ago.
But I'm really enjoying the culture while I'm visiting.
I didn't come to England to see Saudi Arabia.
You go to Saudi Arabia to see Saudi Arabia.
You come to America and you want American culture.
And the globalism, they want to end all that.
They want to take our culture away.
They want to take our history away.
They want to topple our statues.
They want us to forget our history so we don't know where we came from.
If you don't know where you came from, you don't know where you're going.
Every major urban center has almost the exact same companies, the exact same brands, Starbucks, McDonald's, and it's gross.
When I go somewhere, I wanna see their culture.
I wanna see what they've discovered.
I wanna see their values.
I don't want to take from their values or infringe upon them or insert mine into theirs.
I want to say, tell me how you see the world so we can learn.
I think, They talk about multiculturalism.
And I'm like, yes, multiculturalism works when you have 190 strong countries with strong borders and strong leaders who respect their people and their values and their ways of life.
And then through that diverse set of worldviews, we find the best technologies, the best policies, the best ways to live.
If we homogenize all that, the way we're starting to see it, then you can't rapidly adapt to a crisis.
Homogenizing any kind of, like, we talk about genetics.
Homogenizing a gene pool kills off the species because then one disease arises and the whole species is wiped out.
That's why when they talk, this is the thing about the diversity, equity, inclusivity, it is a demonic, I mean it figuratively, bastardization of what really matters.
There are several studies showing that the strength of an economy can be tied to how easy it is to start a business, for obvious reasons.
If it's very difficult for you to start a business, there's no trade happening.
If, you know, the Arab Spring starts because a man in Tunisia was trying to sell fruit from a cart and the police were like, you're not allowed to without a permit.
So he couldn't make a living.
He immolates himself.
I mean, it's an extreme example.
But if people had an easy path towards starting a business, that means they're going to be producing and trading and that economic activity is good for the country.
That's why cutting regulation, cutting some of that red tape is important.
We just had a bill that got voted down in Arizona by Hobbes.
It was about helping people sell food on the street, you know, in little tamale carts and food carts and that kind of thing.
This is helping people survive in a very difficult Joe Biden economy.
And it got voted down.
Wow.
Because that helps small businesses, that helps working class, and we've really turned our back on the working class, and we've got to come back and rescue them.
They need rescuing, or we are going to be literally billionaires and paupers.
So I waited about an hour to finally get to the news, and I'm sure a lot of people are like, is he gonna ask?
The news this morning was that you had a meeting with Senators, and that you may be running for the Senate in Arizona.
There's a couple interesting conversations in that.
One, I'm curious if you are, but also, with Sinema leaving the Democratic Party, what that means for who the Democrats are, and what that means for Arizona, and then what that means for you, potentially being a Senator.
Well, we haven't gotten into a lot of my case, which is currently still in the courts, actually, today and next week.
And so that's my focus, 100%.
I'm focused on that.
And I believe that we have the greatest case ever in this type of case.
I'm being cryptic right now for our censorship lords out there.
And that's where my focus is, 100%.
But I'm also realizing that I've looked at the legal system right now, and it isn't fair.
We're not seeing fair judiciary, and we're seeing bias and unfairness everywhere.
And I don't know what the result will be.
I can't predict how judges are going to behave.
And it appalls me that they feel that that kind of crime could have happened on the great people of Arizona to take away and stop our movement.
I was that dangerous.
You know, they called me the most dangerous politician in America.
I'm that dangerous to the status quo, to what they want at the border.
They knew I meant business.
We're going to go in there and we're going to secure that border.
We're going to call it what it is, an invasion.
I was right.
It is an invasion.
And we're going to reform our sacred vote.
Elections, right?
We're going to reform that and make it secure for Democrats, Independents, and Republicans.
And they couldn't have someone like me in office.
So they had to do that.
Do you think that I should allow them to push, not just me, because it's never been about me, but our movement away like that?
And say, no, you guys will not have a voice.
You will not have a say.
I think our movement's too big and too important.
It's a movement of the people in Arizona.
So I feel that I'm called to stay in politics as disgusting as politics is, as horrific and slimy and infected as the swamp is.
I think it is my duty to the citizens of Arizona to stay in and continue to fight for them.
So I don't know.
I mean, that is something I'm contemplating.
And yes, I did meet with about a half a dozen senators, and we discussed that, what that would look like, and whether it's something I want to do, and I'm considering it.
But I will not let these bastards push our movement down and stop our movement.
No way out.
And if they think that I'm going away, they got another thing coming.
Because me and the Mama Bear Revolution, we're coming at you and you will never get rid of us.
We're going to save our country for our children.
We've got something and I can feel my I can feel the hair rising on me right now.
We've got something worth fighting for, and that's our kids.
And whether you have a baby, you have a 10-year-old, a 20-year-old, or you have a kid who's 40 and you've got grandbabies, we've got something worth fighting for.
And this country is worth fighting for for them.
My life will be, you know, maybe I'll get another 40 years.
I'm in my 50s.
I've had a great life.
I had a wonderful childhood.
I had freedom and a great America.
And I'm just not willing to walk away from this fight and let them take our country into a place that my kids will never have a good future.
So we, you know, we talked about this on the show and it was really, it was really, really great, actually, because I'm on the show and they're talking about extraditing Trump from Florida.
And Ron DeSantis responded with, look, I'm not going to get involved in this.
I don't know what goes into paying porn star hush money or whatever.
He's doing E-Verify, which a lot of conservatives and libertarians are very concerned about.
They think it's bad.
And my approach right now, preliminary, is if E-Verify stops illegal immigration and helps our economy and helps the American people, then I'm saying yes to it for now, but I don't know a whole lot.
What I do know is just because something can be exploited or used against us doesn't mean we don't stop a bad thing.
And so, looking at Ron DeSantis' policies, I think he's doing a great job.
Looking at him in terms of strength, Look, they're mad at me about this.
They were ragging on me on Twitter.
Ron DeSantis may be a good VP as well for Trump in that he's a policy guy, he's straight-laced, he'll sign the books and wear the suit, but he's not the powerful, you know, fist-waving fighter.
Now, some people responded to me saying that I am right about you being the strong personality who would say what needs to be said about you will not extradite Trump, et cetera.
But the response was, if Trump already has that, then don't you need a DeSantis who's going to be more of the policy kind of toned down guy?
It tells a lot about someone's character when you, I'm sure in your life, you've helped people out before, people who, You know, didn't have much and you give them an opportunity and then... They stab you in the back.
It used to be that you couldn't, or that there were some legal arguments that you might not be able to.
And they've just passed a law, I think Ron DeSantis signs it, saying he can now run as governor.
And I think there's always an easy pitch to the people of, if you've appreciated the work I've done for you as governor, then let me extend that work to the great people of this country.
So I one thing that really grinds my gears and I know why CNN asks the questions they do about 2020 is that for me it's it's frustrating and I know from a lot of independents and moderates talking about January 6 in 2020 is frustrating.
And so a year ago, I'm talking about how, I was like, look, I'm leaning towards DeSantis because Trump is just talking about 2020.
He's not telling me what he's for.
And then the Ohio thing happens, the derailment.
Trump's back.
He goes down there, he buys McDonald's for their first responders.
It was personable, it was humanizing, it was the right thing to do.
If CNN did the Trump Town Hall and Caitlin Collins debated with Trump as she did and then afterwards CNN stood by and Anderson Cooper came out and said we will have Trump on this network because he is running to be president and that and the people need to hear him.
And so it's, you know, we had this conversation yesterday.
Someone asked, should CNN be praised for hosting Donald Trump?
The answer is, yes, they should.
But should they be defended for condemning Trump after the fact when they chose to do it?
No, they're grifters and they're lying.
If CNN comes out and says, we are going to host Donald Trump, I say, thank you, CNN.
Let the people hear what he has to say.
If you then turn it into a clown show where you lie about what he's saying, then we should criticize them.
But I put it this way.
Let's be let's be tactful about it.
CNN got 3.3 million viewers from that Trump Town Hall, many of them Trump supporters and moderates.
They're happy to hear Trump.
The left is attacking CNN and refused to watch.
Make the incentive model clear for CNN.
If you platform Donald Trump and let him speak, even if you argue with him, we'll watch, you'll make money, your ratings will go up, and we'll say thank you.
No matter what you do, the left will condemn you and attack you and insult you and not watch.
What if the globalist media doesn't care about ratings at all?
They don't care about making money because they care about, for the next year and a half, pushing a globalist agenda so that they can really bring America down and push this.
That might be what's going on because they don't seem to care about the ratings.
Ratings equal dollars, and dollars is how you keep the lights on.
And it seems like these corporate owners, Corrupt corporate owners don't care about money because they have a bigger agenda, which is pushing the globalist movement.
You know, I think I think that if I on my show said, you know, I do like Trump, but I'm leaning towards DeSantis.
And, you know, the war in Ukraine is good.
The smears would stop.
they would immediately come out and say, "Oh, Tim Pool's a centrist." If I supported the war to any degree and I was opposed to Trump, even the smallest degree, they'd invert it and they'd say, we'll take it.
I think though, going in the next year, we need to expand it beyond, you know, just people like you and I being willing to take those hits.
And I tell this to people when I'm out and about, it's so imperative that we use our First Amendment right now in the next year and a half.
You know, we were in a DC hotel room and ordered like a hamburger to the room and a guy came up and he saw that Trump was on and he kind of scoffed a little bit.
I think he was kind of testing out, like, oh, am I safe to say that I like the guy or not?
And I kind of asked him, like, what's going on?
And he's like, oh, that guy.
And I go, oh, Trump?
President Trump?
We love him.
He's fantastic.
And then he kind of smiled and said, I do too.
But I think he was afraid to say it.
So it was safer for him to kind of make a little bit of a safe for me to say, well, I'm not sure about him.
And then when I said, we love him.
He's great.
We need him back.
I took the risk of doing that, not that it was a risk for me because you guys know where I stand, but and that gave him permission.
So it's not just this man in New York who's on a subway train.
It's a guy who's got property on the border, and people are illegally crossing onto his property, and they're accusing him of murder now, because a foreign national illegally entered the country and was trespassing on his property.
Well, this is one of these counties in Arizona that has a very liberal sheriff.
It's a small county with a very liberal sheriff, and it's an agenda.
They're using the, you know, and this is, you know, one of the things that I was so proud of, and I still am, is our policy that we push, which was America First policy.
I actually made a chapter to talk about how we need to take those America First policies, put it in each and every state, remind people that we are sovereign states, 50 individual sovereign states.
We need 50 strong governors to protect the citizens.
And we don't need to wait Like victims, helpless victims, for the federal government to come in and save us.
Our governors can do that, our states should be doing that right now.
The book is called Unafraid, Just Getting Started.
And we talk a lot about, I talk about this amazing campaign that we had, from me walking away from my career, a little bit about my childhood, walking away from my career, just thinking I'm gonna go work behind the scenes and do something Different.
And then the amazing thing of the Arizona citizens asking me to run and deciding, well, what the heck?
Yeah, that was one of my first ads coming out saying, hey, I'm running for governor because we've got a crisis on our hands.
Our border's wide open.
News media's lying to us.
And then they get mad when we don't believe them.
I said something about Ukraine the other day and I said, we don't know the full truth of what's happening there because the media is lying.
They've been lying.
They lied about COVID.
They lied about stats.
They lie about everything.
We don't know.
And thank God we discovered that because the alternative media, the new media is coming forward and we're able to get different voices, different ideologies to at least food for thought, right?
This is what they don't like about independent media.
Someone asked me, we were talking about the war in Ukraine, and they said, certainly you can't believe what Russia is saying.
And I was like, absolutely, of course, of course you can't believe what Russia is saying.
Of course Putin is lying about everything.
Do you think that means that Joe Biden is telling the truth?
So, you know, I put it like, if Joe Biden was in front of me and Vladimir Putin was in front of me, and they both said something contradictory, I'm gonna be like, well, I don't like the guy, but I'm more inclined to believe Joe Biden than I would be for Vladimir Putin.
I mean, that dude's got his agenda as well.
But if you believe the US, NATO are going to tell you the truth about what's going on an active battlefield, I got a bridge to sell you.
It's not coming out until the end of June, but you can do pre-orders on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and I never sell things, so right now I'm kind of selling something.
I've always wondered about the media, and I feel like if they took an honest approach, they'd fare way better.
If CNN, if Anderson Cooper came out and actually interviewed someone in the military who explained the real reason behind the war in Ukraine, I think support for the war in Ukraine would go up a lot.
But they lie all the time.
And the issue is, you insult people when you lie, and they know you're lying, and they say, I'm not going to do business with you because you're a liar.
But if they came out and said, listen, Russia has a gas monopoly through Gazprom in Ukraine, which makes very high energy costs in Europe, which allows China to outpace us.
We tried building a pipeline from Qatar through Syria and Turkey, and Syria told us no because they wanted to help Russia.
We will not sit by and let the Russians and the Chinese take down the American economy, and that means we're willing to go to war.
I'm not in favor of that mentality, but that is a strong component of why they go to war.
I'd be willing to bet you get a lot of people who would be like, oh, that's all true, you know.
You got to make the sponsors happy when you work for them, right?
You never piss off the sponsor.
And when you have sponsors, that's who they are protecting.
That's who they are bowing down to.
Not the people.
They're not looking for truth.
And they certainly weren't during COVID.
You could not even seek out a different doctor to give you a different piece of it.
If you went in and they said, "Tim, you've got this disease.
We need to do this.
We need operation." You go, "You know, I'm gonna get a second opinion." You might even get a third opinion 'cause that's a pretty serious thing.
We weren't allowed to get a second, third opinion during COVID. - Yeah, we were conspiracy theorists. - Just get that mask on your child's face and put your kid in a mask and sit him on the kitchen table and take him out of school And, you know, we couldn't even get it.
That, to me, was the biggest red flag of what was going on in the media.
And that's why I walked away, because the push for pushing fear and division keep us divided, keep us agitated, keep us angry, living in fear.
A population that's afraid and angry are very easy to control.
I bet the moment he gets, as soon as the results come in on TV, so in fact Trump was wrong, it's going to be negative two months.
The results come in saying Trump is president.
Putin immediately says, get me in touch with Trump's people.
I bet Putin says it because he knows that he that he's going to get a little bit.
Ukraine knows the fighting stops and they're going to say, OK.
So they already tried to have negotiations and Boris Johnson flies in and shuts it down because the West is adamant that we take Ukraine, NATO takes Ukraine, and Russia's upset about this because Crimea is their only warm water port.
I think the TV says Donald Trump is projected to be your winner 2024 presidential election.
Putin calls his people immediately and says we're declaring a truce in Ukraine.
We need to talk the moment You're in office the moment you have the authority.
Let's put an end to this and Trump will say yes They might try and pull so the thing Trump's got to be careful of is they're gonna try and pull a Logan Act thing Like he wasn't oh, yeah, right.
They'll make something up like they did with Michael Flynn, but I think the moment he's inaugurated Putin says Stop!
Trump's gonna work this out.
We're gonna stop fighting.
I think Putin fears Trump.
Respectfully fears him.
I don't think Putin's like shaking like, oh no Trump!
I think he's like, let's be careful when we're dealing with this Donald Trump.
He can be erratic, he can be strong, but he'll also be reasonable.
I think Russia ends up getting a lot.
I think they end up, I don't know if they'll take Donbass, but I think they get Crimea, and I think that puts an end to it, and I think Ukraine has no choice.
I think Trump says to Ukraine, we're not going to fund this anymore, it's over.
You end a war by stopping the money going to it, and stopping the bullets, and stopping the tanks, and you say we're going to the peace negotiating table.
Our kids are, I mean, being psychologically abused.
We have so many issues.
To be pouring money in that when our streets aren't safe and, you know, you can't, when your house is on fire, you're not going to throw in a bucket of water on a house that's like 10 miles away.
Yeah, it's like our house is on fire and, you know, the property owner is like, quick, everybody run to the other side of town.
Quite literally, someone mentioned, I think it was Benny Johnson, when it came to Ohio, the train derailment, the chemical spill, the lives destroyed and their lives still destroyed, Biden flew quite literally as far away as possible, the other side of the planet going to Ukraine.
He decides to go to a foreign conflict and ignore, and guess who goes to Ohio?
Remember when he would go to, you know, help people who had been through a hurricane and he was tossing out, I think it was like paper towels to people.
And the same thing with the Trump case, this E. Jean Carroll.
They want to be able to talk about sexual assault and rape.
They want to be able to talk about porn.
They want to be able to just put those little brain worms in people's heads.
They want to be able to have the crawl bottom of the screen.
And people just see it.
They don't even realize it's coming into their subconscious.
But they want to be able to talk about it.
He'll win on appeal.
I believe he'll win, and I believe the other side will have to pay his legal fees.
But that's going to be months down the line.
The damage is being done.
And this is, in a way, election interference, election tampering, when they're pushing false narratives, false stories as a way to damage one candidate...
And that's why when DeSantis had that comment about when he threw the porn star thing in, I thought that is such a low blow to somebody who helped you out.
I tweeted out a video, someone tweeted a video of Jazz Jennings.
Jazz Jennings was identified by his parents or her parents at Jazz is Trans as trans at 3 years old.
We started receiving what they call gender affirming care at 7, puberty blockers at 11, cross-sex hormones, and then finally surgery as a minor at 17.
I tweeted this video of Jazz being very depressed and upset.
It's an edit, where someone took clips from the show, because they have a show on TLC.
I said, where is Ron DeSantis?
This is happening in Florida?
And the response I got from DeSantis' press team was, I'm sorry, he doesn't have a time machine to go back and prevent this from happening, but he's doing X, Y, and Z.
It was a terrible move on their part, because I'm correct.
Jazz Jennings' family lives in South Florida, and they have for some time.
And Jazz Jennings received multiple surgeries, one of which took place while Ron DeSantis was the governor.
I like Ron DeSantis, but this is weakness.
This is an inability to act.
And there's a horrifying video where Jazz Jennings' mother says that she wakes Jazz up in the middle of the night with what's called a dilator, a medical instrument that has to be physically inserted into the graft wound for the sex change operation.
To stop the wound from closing.
And I am not saying this in a way to be insulting to anybody.
I am trying to use basic, fact-based academic terms.
The mother says, if you don't do this, I will.
The mother then says, if that thing seals up, I will wring her neck.
Actually says those words.
I said, hmm, that sounds like somebody should go knock on the door of this family and ask if everything's okay.
Separate the mother from the child, give an in-depth interview to the child.
If you were in your apartment, and you heard a man and woman screaming, and then you heard glass shatter, and the woman scream, you'd call the police.
The police would show up, knock on the door at the very least and say, can you both come out and talk to us?
And we're going to ask you what happened.
I'm not saying anybody gets arrested.
Maybe the woman says, we were playing twister and I kicked a vase.
I was screaming, we're having fun.
Everything's fine.
And the cops say, sorry about that.
And they leave.
But the cops still come.
They still knock on the door.
I said, doesn't what we see from the Jazz Jennings family warrant a knock on the door?
Instead of getting a response from the DeSantis administration that we're doing the best we can, we have banned these surgeries for minors in the state, these are the policies we're putting in place.
I got insults.
I got called a grifter and a liar.
And I said, I think the real issue is that Ron is great on policy.
I think he's the best governor we have right now.
But this shows tremendous weakness.
I think he's scared to go up against a reality TV celebrity family because he wants to run for president, and he doesn't want that used against him.
But if he's going to allow a mother to say that she will wring the neck of her child unless the child engages in a practice, the child does not want to, which I believe shows physical abuse.
I mean, that's the bare minimum you should be doing with your administration.
Maybe not even run, but obviously his attorney general or his law enforcement department.
When the issue came to Trump's extradition, and they said, look, we're not going to get involved in that, it was so tremendously weak.
If he really wanted to be president, and he hasn't announced or anything like that, but if he did, and he wanted to win.
I do hear that some of the big donors are kind of starting to get a little bit nervous about where things are going with the polling and that kind of thing.
I hear people talking about who the matchup's going to be.
I've seen a lot of poll numbers.
Trump looks really strong.
They're going after him.
It'd be really comfortable to be somebody running on the other.
DeSantis, he hasn't endured eight years of nonstop vicious lies and attacks.
He's had some criticism, but there's no one who's had more criticism than Trump, and he can withstand a lot.
That man, I talk to him.
I've been around him quite often.
You know, one time I was walking with him from his office to his residence in Florida and we were just chatting along the way and I just said, How do you do it?
I mean, do you ever?
Because I feel that we can relate on certain things.
And he did everything he did, which was great for our economy, with the constant attacks from the media, the people in D.C., some members of his own party coming at him.
Imagine if he didn't have all of that just constant adversity, what he could accomplish.
Well, I think America First policies aren't right-wing extremism.
That's what they want to call us.
They're very common sense.
We've got to deal with these problems we're facing with common sense policy.
And what's been happening is not working before.
Trump came in and found policies that worked.
But we have to get the fake news.
We have to reveal, it's taken this long to show people how bad the fake news is.
And so that they're not tuning in and believing everything they see.
I don't know about you, but I'm venturing to guess that there were people who tuned in to Trump's CNN town hall who maybe hadn't been totally aware of the bias.
And when they saw that woman that was doing the commentary, I don't know, who was moderating.
Debating?
Attacking.
Yeah.
That woke people up.
That was a new level of attack that I hadn't seen.
And they're calling him the aggressive one?
The mean one?
I will take someone who communicates with a mean tweet rather than somebody who is I'm unable to communicate like Joe Biden.
Unable to string two or three words and sentences together without notes, without pre-written notes like Biden has.
The barricades came down around 1 p.m., Trump was on stage talking.
They breached the building around 2 p.m., Trump issued a statement within 30 minutes.
So you gotta, like what you're saying, it's true.
He's in the car, he's getting updates from his people, he doesn't know what's going on, and they say, look, there's some people in there, they're rioting, they're fighting with cops, and he goes, okay, I'll put out a tweet, what should I say?
I'll say this.
Half an hour.
Half an hour, he said, no violence, we are the party of law and order, don't do this.
The whole thing, everything he does, no matter what he does, they find a way to make it bad.
Donald Trump could run into a burning building and save a box full of baby puppies, and then they would write something negative like, Trump's reckless endeavor risks life of puppies.
It's like, yes, by saving, poor puppies suffer smoke inhalation due to Trump, you know, actions.
For the first time in 100 years, a generation in some areas more conservative than the previous.
I don't believe that means Gen Z had a wake-up call.
I think it means conservatives have more kids, so there's more conservative Gen Z kids.
Now you take a look at the issue of abortion and child sex change surgery, and I said this to our leftist guest last week, look, I'm not a pro-life conservative.
You're not going to hear that from me.
You wanna sterilize and abort your children?
That just means the future's conservative, so have fun, I guess.
I tweeted this out, something to the effect of, somewhat facetiously, the left aborting their kids is, they're making a sacrifice for a better future, a conservative future.
I'm saying it as a joke to make a point, and I show the stats.
Trump supporters have one more kid, I believe, about one kid on average more than non-Trump voters.
What do you think that's gonna mean in 20 years?
18 years from today, they will be voting if they're born today.
And there's more conservatives?
The more the left starts aborting their kids and fancies abortion up to nine months, no matter what conservatives do, the future becomes conservative.
I think it's admirable that conservatives are desperately trying to save the lives of their political rivals, who they genuinely don't like.
But if the vote goes down to, you know, abortion is going to be legal, The end result is just give it 20 years.
Give it 40 years.
Two generations from now, it's going to be two to one conservative to liberal.
In 2020, there was a war game, Boston Globe reported on this, where they basically played a political version of Dungeons and Dragons, as it were, where they all came together and said, okay, I'll pretend to be Trump, you pretend to be Hillary, and then they rolled die to see what would happen.
And I think it was John Podesta or someone pretending to be Trump, or I'm sorry, someone pretending to be Hillary, said that if Trump wins in 2020, they will advise Washington, Oregon, and California to secede from the Union.
So when we talk about national divorce or civil war or whatever, they say, oh, we're the extremists.
And I'm like, The idea came from you when you said the West Coast should secede from the Union if Trump wins.
And I gotta be honest, based on the things I think these people have done, I would not be surprised if they wanted at least one state to secede so they could have an emergency escape bunker.
I think Donald Trump should the first thing he does when he gets reelected.
I hope he appoints a real Attorney General who immediately begins filing criminal indictments against anyone in government bureaucrat or elected official who there where there is evidence of crime.
We've got insider trading and stocks.
Indict no more of this but we have a delicate system and we should know if they're criminals if there's provable criminal acts Charge them.
Well, I just thank you because we need voices like yours and the people out there that are just open to listening because, you know, if we just had the five or six corporate networks We're never going to get the truth.
And I'm so glad people are waking up and we have so many more options and people who are willing to do the hard work to get the content out to get the truth out.
That's all it's about.
And, you know, we're we the America First movement is about saving our country for all of our citizens.
And I'm talking Democrats and independents and Republicans as well.
That's what my whole campaign was about.
And, you know, I hate that they try to call me an extremist because it's not accurate.
I like accuracy.
I'm about returning the government back to the citizens.
And that's how our founding fathers envisioned it.
So we're going to keep working.
We're going to keep fighting.
I won't stop.
I'm not afraid.
Once you've walked through fear and got to the other side, nothing makes you afraid anymore.