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Dinesh D'Souza - Vindicating Trump | In the Litter Box w/ Jewels & Catturd – Ep. 662 – 10/7/2024
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Today is Monday, October 7th, 2024, episode number 662.
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You are in the litter box with Jules and Cat Turd.
Hey there, Cat. How are ya?
Hey, hey, hey. How goes it?
Good. Tell us. My voice is kind of gone.
From turd stock. The old voice is a little rough.
I know, but did you just have a wonderful time or what?
I wish everybody could experience...
We appreciate the live streams, by the way, but I wish everybody could experience there.
It's so electric there.
It's hard to describe.
It's just... And they just had, I mean, Gretchen Wilson just came up there and blew the room off the place, and then we just had Shannon Larson, and just, it was good.
And then here comes Angie Perrow with that voice, and then just, you know, Jeffrey Still, who just, I don't even know what planet that dude's on.
Oh my gosh.
And he played our song, which got a good response, and it was nice.
Oh my gosh, I'd say you have a great response.
I'll tell you one thing, you know, people love that song.
I'm referring to it as the anthem we need right now during these times.
It's just beautifully done, Kat.
I mean, it really is.
You just did an amazing job. Yeah, it did pretty good.
You know, we got the 12th on the country music charts, and it's still in the charts somewhere.
And then went to number one, the video went right to number one for a long time.
Wow. So it's amazing.
It's amazing how fast everybody sings along and knows the words, you know, like two days later.
Well, I kind of warned everybody, right, when I said, okay, so this is going to replace for everyone, eating the dogs, eating the cats.
That's sad, too. I like that song.
I know, but it's so true.
It's like, okay, we have a replacement coming for you all because that's what we have.
We have a really great guest that's going to join us at the top of the second hour.
We have Dinesh D'Souza, who is going to join us.
Cannot wait to talk to him about all the different things that are going on.
But Vindicating Trump, I watched the movie last night because I wanted to see it, and it is terrible.
Incredible. It is so well done.
You all need to make sure that you get over there and you get your tickets because it's going to be in theaters for just another week and it's exciting stuff.
And he also has a book that's coming out tomorrow.
You can order now at Amazon, Barnes& Noble or from vindicatingtrump.com.
It's just so well done.
It's what we have experienced and what we have gone through the last couple of years.
And you just get to see it through a different perspective.
And it was, I mean, his movies are great.
I mean, his movies are just great.
Yeah, everything he does is good. You can always count on it.
He's like a really reliable person.
Everything he puts out is great.
I mean it. I mean, just so impressive.
So he's going to join us at the top of the hour and just cannot wait to hear what all he has to say about the making of the movie and everything else.
It's just really well done.
Just like Dinesh.
I mean, if he's going to do it, he's going to do it well.
Very intelligent guy.
Absolutely. So you all can stick around for that.
There's just one thing after another happening.
And then, of course, we've got this hurricane.
I mean, what is happening here?
Really? Yeah, it's 175.
Oh, my gosh. Right now.
And they say, hey, yeah, it's only going to hit like 120, 125.
Hell, if it's coming at you and it's 175, I mean, you don't know if it's going to come down.
They're so wrong about everything they predict.
That's a lot, though.
I mean, this is a huge storm and I know that we have got a whole bunch of litter mates that are out there that are evacuating, that are preparing, that are doing everything that they can to make sure that they can get out of the path because this thing is headed right for them.
Yeah, it's going to be bad, man.
I've just, you know, if it hits at 120, I'm not saying, if it does get down to 120, they're going to be lucky.
I mean, it's bad to say it's lucky, but...
Believe me, I was in Michael, 160 mile an hour, sustained winds.
Not Gus, sustained winds for four hours.
It was going like eight miles an hour.
I've been in it, man, I'm telling you.
There's a big difference when the wind gets that high when it's like 100.
It seems like it's five times more, but yeah, if it's going to hit us a five, I advise everybody just to go, be safe, get your pets out, get your kids out.
Oh my gosh. I mean, we've got pup turds over there, and so, you know.
Yeah, and they had to kind of leave early.
I mean, they watched the whole show, but they had to leave earlier than they wanted to up here.
Oh, wow. Yeah, they were watching the show.
We got Fatty and Padrina, or Folly and Alfie down there.
Oh my gosh.
They're riding, I mean, it's right towards them.
Prayers to all of you that are in the storm and, you know, in the surrounding areas that you get out of dodge.
I mean, really, you can't.
There are certain things that you can stand up to, bullies included.
But this whole thing, natural disasters like this, no.
Let's find another route.
There's no reason to stay put.
There's an emergency evacuation in order, but you know, it's really interesting.
The second massive hurricane days away, FEMA is broke.
Biden is nowhere.
Harris is appearing on The View and Howard Stern.
It's complete and total insanity.
She was also recording when all of those victims in North Carolina and otherwise all the southern states needed her help.
She's over there recording a podcast with Call Me Daddy.
Yeah. That's what we have right now.
It's actually exactly where she belongs.
I mean, really? That's how bad she actually is.
That's where she belongs. It's true.
You've got all of these different crises that are happening.
And this one, of course, Mark Levin put it out, you know, that Hurricane Milton could be the worst storm to hit Florida West Coast in 100 years as it strengthens to a horrific Category 5.
And she's over there podcasting.
Not addressing all of the people that are underwater that have lost everything, including loved ones, families, businesses, homes, everything that they own.
I mean, really?
You want somebody like that at the helm?
You want that person answering the call?
This is why you don't spend all the money on illegals, because stuff like this happens.
Oh, and you know, they are sitting there trying so hard to deny that.
But let me tell you, that's being debunked second to none.
And I'm so glad people are actually talking about it.
Like they always do. They don't do anything.
And then the people that like, you know, check them on COVID and the people who tell the truth about COVID or their election, then they try to get, you know, we're coming after you.
Oh, sure. Telling the truth. Aren't they ridiculous?
That damn governor's like, they all should be prosecuted for misinformation.
No, you should be prosecuted because 2,000 people are dead because you're a dumbass and didn't do nothing.
That's exactly right.
And you're still not doing nothing.
Not doing a thing.
In fact, here is Corrine Jean-Pierre in 2024 versus what she said.
The newly promoted. Oh gosh, isn't that the silliest thing?
The newly promoted. To Biden.
Who we're never going to see again.
Who's going to end up in a basement somewhere forever.
Yeah. Promoted to senior advisor to resident.
Advisor. Her advising. Trump.
I mean to imagine to Biden.
Her advising. Just think about that.
Think about how far this country has fallen.
Just an absolute idiot.
One hundred percent.
Oh my gosh. So, yes.
And here's some of the things that Corrine Jean-Pierre has said.
You've got what she said in 2022 versus what she's saying in 2024.
Listen. Just categorically false.
It is not true. It is a false statement.
No, Biden did not take female relief.
Money to use on migrants.
Funding is also available through FEMA's Emergency Food and Shelter Program to eligible local governments and not-for-profit organizations upon request to support humanitarian relief for migrants.
Yeah, so just lying, constantly lying.
Yes, they did.
They absolutely did all of those things.
So the devastation is just unbelievable.
I mean, FEMA has abandoned devastated North Carolina town residents.
Nobody's been bringing in supplies except civilians.
This is after agency refuses to drive around road closed sign.
I mean, you can just see it.
This has just been awful.
I'm hearing horrible things like people are burying their loved ones in their front yards.
You've got bodies that are all over the place.
She's podcasting.
She doesn't feel like she needs to address the country or anything else, even though On Call Me Daddy, she was basically saying in her interview that she had pretty much taken over as acting president for Joe Biden.
I mean, come on.
What is wrong with these people?
God, it's bad.
And you've got, you know... And so dumb.
And she just gets dumber and dumber and dumber every day.
It's just dumber. She can't talk, man.
And you don't even know what the hell she's talking about when she does talk.
Mm-mm. No, it's just disgusting, though.
This is why you are starting to see so many people that are supporting President Trump.
You're starting to feel it now.
I mean, there is a groundswell like nobody's business.
She can't defend her policy.
She can't defend her action, or rather, inaction.
You get into a conversation with anybody, and they just kind of stand down.
They don't want to talk about it.
They don't want to hear about it.
And it's like, why?
Why? You're just not very proud of what you've got over there.
It's a complete and total disaster.
This is what a stolen election looks like.
They have been a mess ever since.
And that's what's so cool about Dinesh's movie is because he basically takes you back to show you how the whole thing started and how they ruled under this, you know, idea of fear.
Let's go ahead and get everybody just scared to death of President Trump and then he won't be effective at all.
And who's affected by that?
Us. We haven't had any real leadership.
I mean, who's running the country right now?
Nobody knows. It's so bad.
It really is. What happens when you cheat and win an election and put people in there that can't do it?
That's it. I mean, it's starting to show.
All of it is starting to show.
But I will tell you one thing.
That rally and Butler?
Oh, my.
It sucks. I was kind of driving during it.
I didn't get to see it. It was absolutely incredible.
And they are so upset.
The lamestream media, they have completely lost their minds over the whole thing.
They can't even handle it.
The people. God, there had to be 70,000 people there.
I mean, they just went forever.
Well, every rally he's doing right now is bringing a wave of patriots from all over the place.
That's like an Elvis rally or something.
A concert. But, you know, Sage at SageListener put up this video.
If you want to kind of see just a few little highlights of what happened during the rally in Butler with Elon Musk It was awesome Take over Elias you you Fight, fight, fight!
Vote, vote, vote! That's
exactly what we're going to have.
A president again.
And I cannot wait. The world needs it.
It's not just our country.
It's the world at this point.
The world. And look who you get with them now.
You get Elon, you get Robert Jr., you get...
You get Tussie Gabbard, you get Tucker Carlson, you get all these great minds.
People that actually want to help the country, that actually believe in free speech and the Constitution.
They're actually not just giving everything to illegals, everything to Ukraine.
They actually try to every day get up and help the American people.
Which we don't have right now. Our government's rogue.
It's the FBI, CIA, IRS, now FEMA. They're all the enemies of us.
They do nothing but just try to get us, man.
It's the craziest thing. They don't do nothing to help us.
Nothing at all. They're up there like, oh, we're here seven days later.
Now everybody else is kicked out that actually did all the hard work when it was time to do it.
Y'all are kicked out. Now we're going to go in the office over here and, you know, eat some little dabbies and smoke some cigarettes while everybody's dying there.
It's just ridiculous.
I mean, here we've got, if you want to know how bad it is, okay, here's how bad it is.
You've got MSNBC, which is what we like to call MSDNC, that's what President Trump named to them.
MSLSD. They're on something, that's for sure.
They're going to need a lot more by the time this whole thing is over.
But they're calling Elon Musk the world's leading spreader of disinformation.
Give me a break. Also not taking his appearance at the Trump rally very well.
You've got to see this.
I mean, you want to talk about full-blown.
They know it hurts them. Oh, they're in pain.
There's one reason it's driving them crazy, because they know.
It hurts them. I was in the motel room, and I was watching something.
It might have been the Weather Channel.
I don't know. And one of her commercials come on, and we don't, you know, Trump's for the billionaires that don't pay their fair share.
Then they showed a picture of Elon. Oh my gosh.
Isn't this fun? You have to enjoy the fact, because there's a lot of things that are going to happen.
The lamestream media, the regime media, which is what we're so used to seeing, right?
Because Obama basically orchestrated that when he started the Smith-Munt Act, right?
That's why you're seeing everybody in these fishbowls that are basically saying the exact same thing.
They've all received the And so there are a whole bunch of talking heads, right?
So he did that on purpose when he was leaving office.
And they've used that to their advantage.
But now all of a sudden, you've got all of these new platforms.
You've got all kinds of people that are tired of the script.
They want to hear people actually talk.
They want to hear about How they feel, what they're doing, what they're seeing, you know, what they want, what they envision for this country.
Put a whole bunch of ideas together and then all of a sudden, guess what?
Brilliant. You have an amazing conversation.
And that's what people have been wanting for a long time.
Well, they don't like this.
They don't like this.
Listen to what this tool had to say.
And I will say that Elon Musk is perhaps the world's leading spreader of disinformation, including outright lies about hurricane relief, about illegal immigrants.
We've seen him do that in the last couple of weeks.
and then on Saturday, he steps on stage with Donald Trump, with one of the less athletic leaps I've ever seen, as he bounded his way on stage with Trump, and then spoke briefly on the former president's behalf.
Tell us about that moment and what sort of, you see, he does not have much of a vertical, Mr. Musk.
And I will say- A less athletic leap.
He doesn't have much of a vertical.
Let's say you jump, dork.
I have never laughed so hard when I saw that clip.
I had to listen to it a couple more times.
It doesn't have a good vertical.
Please! Are you kidding?
This is the left.
This is the left.
So now they're hurling personal attacks.
They're pissed, man. They know if it didn't hurt them, it wouldn't bother them.
That's right. They wouldn't be going after them this hard if it wasn't hurting them.
They're only going after them this hard because it's destroying them.
He owns X. He's got 200 million followers.
Oh my gosh. 200 million.
Well, and he's changing the conversation.
He is using that platform so that we can have a conversation.
And that we don't have a scripted one.
Propaganda news media is on its way out.
It is literally dying on the vine.
And people know it.
And I think it's wonderful.
This is what we've always wanted.
I mean, we can start basically aging ourselves at this point, Kat, and we can say, we remember Twitter.
When it was the way it was.
Yeah. Because they kicked off all conservative voices.
The changes he's made, though, besides just the freedom of speech, which is huge, just from the ad shares, the spaces, to the blue checkmarks.
He got rid of the snob blue checkmark people.
Right. And I mean, here I was sitting there with millions of views, and then some reporter has got 15 followers from, you know, Some obscure station in Borough, Alaska gets a blue chain mark.
I know. And he's just like, it wasn't fair, man, you know?
And he just let everybody buy them.
And then it's just, now they got AI on there.
And then their analytics are awesome.
And it just, there's so many features.
There's no features. He opened up Twitter and it literally didn't change for like 10 years.
They didn't have no vision, man.
They had no way to change it to better.
And sometimes he makes a mistake, and we all get kind of, man, stop doing that.
But he, you know, they're trying new stuff.
And it's, the whole platform's changed beyond words.
It's so true. And the thing about it is, is that he listens to you.
When you put something out that you're not happy about, he's taking that in.
You are actually able to talk to some of the greatest minds in the world, thanks to this platform.
From all over the world.
And not so, you know, great minds as well.
We have our little outs with lips.
I hate it because I was traveling that day.
But, you know, of course, I've watched the videos of it.
And I got it taped when I get back home.
Oh, it's amazing. But, man, that's just him and that Elon.
I knew it when I saw it.
When I was seeing the picture, I was like, boy, this is going to get them.
Oh, it's got them already.
This is going to send them over the top.
They're over the edge.
And not only that, this whole administration that they're not going to be a part of this new one that's coming in with all of the people, a whole bunch of people that were Indies or Independents or Democrats is how they used to vote.
They have now come over to our side.
And you're starting to see a lot of our side that aren't as extreme in their views that are coming towards the center.
It's really interesting to see exactly what's happening.
We are having and we are getting a whole new party as a result of all of this.
And it is going to be a whole new world before you know it because when you have President Trump for four years and then a possibility of J.D. Vance for eight...
We can correct all of the wrongs.
I mean, we really can.
And that's if JD decides that's what he wants to do.
But there are also many other people that are emerging.
So, you know, people really are doing everything that they can to put it out there and to change this party and to change this country for the better.
That debate was kind of J.D. Vance's real inductory to the world, even for me, man.
I was impressed.
He's fantastic. I knew he was going to bring it.
That was his time to shine, and he did an amazing, amazing job.
Tampon Tim was over there with his mouth open.
He didn't know what to say. Well, it still is.
He was over there sweating bullets.
Well, it still is.
He hasn't gotten over it.
I mean, he is just scuttlebugging around.
They did an SNL skit about the terrible debate.
I can't believe you. It was just, he just, you know, absolutely wiped the floor.
If SNL's going to dog out a Democrat, it has to be really bad, something they did.
Well, all of it's really bad.
I mean, here you've got smash-mouth Marxism.
You've got Kamala Harris who was bragging online about sending $157 million to Lebanon as Southeast U.S. suffers through the historic flooding and FEMA admits it blew money on illegals.
I mean, they're sitting there.
They have absolutely no idea what's going on in this country.
They are much more concerned about what's going on in the rest of the world rather than taking care of their own country here at home.
They're so out of touch.
They're so out of touch, and they think these little, like, you know, go somewhere and talk for five minutes and no question, that's like really helping the community, you know, and giving them $700.
That's not doing anything, and they know it.
Yes, exactly.
Who are you going to believe? These lying slugs or all these videos of locals actually there, man, just normal people talking about it.
I believe the regular average citizens, big time.
Well, that's exactly it.
Every single time, the people that have been affected.
And that's why you're starting to see all these endorsements.
That's why they hate X. Oh, yeah.
They can normally go in there and control the whole situation.
I mean, you know, I'm starting to believe that's all they do.
That's why they even have these things.
It's not to help. Go in there and control the narrative.
And before, you know, you say anything like this, they just kick you off Twitter and they already and they still Zuckerberg comes out there and acts like he's gonna be a Republican.
And he's still kicking everybody off for everything in the sun, no matter what you say on Instagram.
You got that right.
It's just a liar. Every time.
I mean, it's just, it's gotten to be so obvious.
And you're going to see them.
I mean, you already see Zuckerberg trying to like, I mean, he's being coached by a conservative on how conservatives will be able to, you know, like him again.
It's not going to work. Quit censoring us.
Start that way, right?
I mean, quit with the propaganda, Mark.
Quit trying to steal elections, Mark.
You should be investigated.
I mean, seriously. He interfered in our elections and we all know this.
But real quick, I want to go to our sponsor of the day.
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Hopefully you'll all do it because it's great.
You should definitely do it because, I mean, always get their, you know, I don't care what it is, if you can afford it, you know, Twitter.
The thing about Twitter is when you do get premium, you get all these special things, and so you already know that it works.
So this is the same thing. So all them things you get there, you get here when you do the same thing.
Exactly. So you're already used to one, so the other one's good too.
And Rumble's, you know, we live streamed our show on Rumble.
Rumble's up and coming. Oh, they are just doing awesome things.
I mean, they truly are.
And I'm so glad to see.
They started, I mean, that was where they started, was free, you know, free speech platform.
That's why we joined them as early as we did.
Early as the first day, probably.
Exactly. Silent Night was like, you've got to get over to Rumble.
I'm like, huh? He's like, yep, I'm going to pay for it.
You guys have got to get an account over there.
It's free speech. You'll be able to speak instead of sit there.
Yeah, we can say things like the cheating election and Ivermectin works and the jabs are full of shit.
Exactly. Without them saying, you're misinformation.
We were streaming on gaming programs.
That's just really sad.
That's how bad it got.
So he's like, look. We almost had to start sending smoke signals out and building a fire.
It's pathetic. I know.
Carrier pigeons. Ridiculous.
So real quick, just so everybody knows, Dinesh D'Souza is going to join us today, and this is going to be awesome.
I mean, it truly is.
But I want to give you a little idea of what vindicating Trump is all about.
So I'm going to play the trailer so you can go ahead and get your mindset on it.
Here it is. Somebody has to help this country, and if they don't, the country and the world are in big trouble.
Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Power! She's a bit worried.
Of the apprentice guy?
You know the feeling of power.
Could you handle it or would it devour?
They fear that power.
You didn't do an insurrection.
Had you called for one, there would have been one.
And there would be one if you called for one now.
I'm not sure I want that power.
I want the power just to make the country better.
America first! And that scares them.
A lot about Donald Trump scares them.
Let's look at everything. Campaign, his family.
Let's get foreign eyes on him.
We have one target.
You know who he is. Going after their companies, their families.
That is a dictator.
It's a very dangerous time for our country.
The goal is to put him in jail because they're so afraid of his voice.
I am your voice!
You'll bury him so deep in legal, it'll bank rip them.
Broke Donald. In jail right before the election.
Sorry for being that guy, but isn't that election interference?
It's not interference if we do it.
We just want a free and fair election.
Sounds expensive. Ballots ain't cheap.
Wait, wait, wait. Did you actually say the word, buy the ballots?
We were able to purchase 10,000 ballots.
That's terrifying. They cheat in many different ways.
That's all they're good at, ready to save democracy.
We need to stop him permanently.
And that person will be risking his life.
Too bad it's not the 60s, right?
It's the win you survived.
I said, get me up.
Trump has beaten back every attack against him.
It's like the damn Termini.
We're gonna fix our borders, and we're gonna fix our elections.
We're gonna win. This is my legacy.
Vendicating Trump. The best is yet to come.
You bet it is.
So excited to make sure, just so everybody knows, Dinesh is joining us.
And it looks like I've got Dinesh on with us right now.
Hey, Dinesh, how are you, sir?
I'm doing great. Good to join you.
Love. Good to see you again.
Hey, it's a pleasure. Loved your movie.
Absolutely incredible.
Well, it's, you know, it's such a critical election.
Trump is this giant figure, but in some ways, I think he's a puzzling or enigmatic figure.
And I say that because the same guy inspires such loyalty on the one side and such hatred on the other.
One group of people will take a bullet for him and one group of people will cheer, if only silently, if someone tries to put a bullet in him.
And I'm like, I don't know anybody in my lifetime who has provoked this kind of radically opposite reaction.
So I try very hard, both in the movie and an accompanying book, both called Vindicating Trump, to explain Trump.
Who is this guy? What does he really represent?
And why is it that the left has focused not only its hatred, but its desperate desire to get rid of him only on this one man?
It's unreal. I mean, what he has gone through.
It's unbelievable, the hate.
And I know there's people like Rob Reiner and people like that that own X, and they're in their 70s, and they're spending their last years of their life 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, completely obsessed with one guy waking up, and that's the end of your life.
That's all you did. It's crazy to me.
Especially, it's crazier further when you consider that Trump politically is right of center, but only moderately so.
And so the hatred of Trump is not even, I don't believe, about his policies.
You know, if you go back to Lincoln, there was a big division about Lincoln's policies, and a lot of the division was over that.
But with regard to Trump, it's entirely over the man.
And then, as you know, there are even some Republicans, and I've heard a few of these, they'll grumble, well, you know, I don't really like the guy, but, you know, I like what he did when he was president, or he needs to keep his mouth shut.
So you've got these Republicans who are trying to somehow reform or rehabilitate Trump, They want to, like, remake Trump in their own image.
And part of what I want to say in this film and in the book is you don't need to do that.
We don't need to remake Trump.
In fact, let's remake your understanding of Trump, because if you look at the crisis in which the country finds itself now, this guy is perfectly suited to assume leadership and get us out of this mess.
Boy, I'd say. Yeah, who else could do it besides him?
I don't know anybody. No.
No, I mean... Go ahead.
Well, people will focus on Trump's vices.
They go, well, you know, he's a playboy.
And I go, are you saying he's a playboy now?
No. The worst you can say about him is he's a reformed playboy.
Not really the worst thing in the world to be.
Well, he's an egomaniac.
Well, really, if you are attacked every moment of every day, wouldn't you need a big ego to just survive to prevent yourself from crumbling to pieces?
And Trump has the great political virtue of courage.
I mean, we saw it not just with the two assassination attempts where his response was absolutely, like, in a class of his own, unique.
Nobody else would react that way.
But even in the way he's handled these 91 criminal charges, I mean, as you guys know, any Republican facing, like, two criminal charges would have exited the race and fled the field.
And so Trump shows not only a bravery but a kind of a resourcefulness.
He's got the amazing legal rope-a-dope so that none of these cases have really got to him.
And here he's going strong into the final lap toward the election.
No question. I don't even know what to say about him anymore.
I don't know if anybody can go through this.
I mean, every conviction.
I mean, they get him up there, you know, and they say his property is worth $25 million.
It's worth, you know, closer to a billion than it is $25 million.
And I just don't know anybody that could take this.
And he just keeps taking, and he never backs down.
I mean, there's no way I could take what he's taken so far.
I admit it. Well, especially when you consider the alternative.
I mean, let's say, you know, that you and I or all of us were billionaires.
We have like seven to ten years of our life left.
We've got our grandchildren, our family.
We have Mar-a-Lago. And Trump knows that if he were to quit, all of this stuff would evaporate.
All of it would go away.
So think how tempting that is.
And so the only motive I can think of is that this guy is doing it because He believes, deep down, that not only is the country in a terrible mess, but he is the only guy who can fix it.
Not just the best guy, but the only guy.
Completely agree. He's the only one that would win.
You know? I mean, really, he's the only candidate that would win at this point.
At some point, too, they're going after him so hard and it's so ridiculous that it starts turning people back towards him.
He becomes like this, you know, martyr sympathetic character.
I think that happens a lot.
Well, I think what happens is that when you have the two assassination attempts, Trump spontaneously displays his character.
And think about it. With both assassination attempts, nothing Trump did could have been in any way planned or rehearsed.
Nobody wrote a script for him.
I mean, just look at the second attempt for a moment.
Trump is annoyed, genuinely annoyed, that they pull him off the golf course because he's just about to make an amazing shot.
And he's like, he doesn't know if he'll be in the same form if he comes back, like, later, you know?
And then he goes on social media and he puts out, he tweets, zero for two.
I mean, who would do that? That's almost like haunting the would-be assassin community.
Hey, guys, go back to the firing range, you losers.
Zero for two, man.
I know. Think of it.
No one else would even think like that.
So Trump is just very unique.
And I think by contrast with Trump and J.D. Vance, who are very authentic and both represent the American dream in different ways, you have Kamala Harris and Waltz, and these two are like major fakes.
Bomber idiots. Yeah, and they're obviously putting it on.
I mean, you look at Waltz and his reactions are so over the top that it's almost like this guy's a cartoon character in some, you know, in some movie.
And look who you get now.
Look who you get now with them.
You get Elon Musk. You get Robert Kennedy Jr.
You get Tubby Gasser.
You get all these people that are actually trying to help the country.
I mean, these people really want to help the average people like us in the country.
And look what's happening with Elon now.
He's full-throated Trump.
They're going to give him the same treatment.
Yeah. Now, the reason for the film, Vindicating Trump, by the way, it's still in theaters.
It'll later be available in other formats, streaming, DVD, etc.
And the book comes out tomorrow.
It's just about to come out.
But what the movie does is it...
It makes the case for Trump by showing Trump up close.
You know, there's a kind of a private dimension of Trump that is often not seen in public.
I think I was able to bring a large part of that out in this conversation with Trump.
And so it's one thing for me to go on and tell people Trump is like this or Trump is like that, but for them to see it themselves It's very eye-opening.
And so my particular challenge is to make sure that this movie is seen by tens of millions of people, including a lot of, you know, middle-of-the-roaders, undecideds, independents.
Those are the guys whose minds are not made up.
I have a question. Because I've seen the Dr.
Phil interview, and President Trump often defaults to projecting his well-known business persona.
I mean, during his interview with Dr.
Phil, there was an attempt to reveal a more personal human side of him.
Were you able to break through that barrier and capture a more caring, sensitive side of Trump that the public rarely sees?
How did you manage to achieve that deeper, more personal portrayal?
I think with Trump, the key is not to frame things in terms of his feelings.
He has a manly resistance to discussing his feelings.
And Dr. Phil was doing the sort of psychology thing.
Well, how did you feel after the assassination attempt?
Trump will always run away from a question like that.
He focuses on, this is what I did.
So he'll describe what he did.
He doesn't like to do the sort of introspection Which is the mark of a psychologist or an intellectual more generally.
So the way I would try to get at that would be a different way.
I would ask Trump something like this.
I said, hey, you know, they say you called for an insurrection.
Now, as far as I can see, you didn't actually do that.
You didn't tell people go in the Capitol, take over the place, stop the count, none of that.
But, guess what?
Had you called for an insurrection on January 6th, there would have been one, a real one.
And there would be one if you called for one now.
And I can't think of anybody else in America who has that kind of power.
I mean, if Kamala Harris called for an insurrection, nobody would show up.
And that's also true of any other Republican.
How do you cope with having this kind of power and what do you intend to do with it?
Notice that this is not ostensibly a personal question.
It's a kind of a public question, but you get to see the tumblers of Trump's mind working.
He's like trying to make sense of it.
He's trying to You know, and he agrees.
He agrees that he has this kind of power.
And he goes on to comment about why he wants it and what he's going to do with it.
And it's very interesting because I can safely bet I've never heard anyone else ask him that question before.
It is really true.
I mean, I was watching some of the back and forth and the way you approached it and approached him, some of these subjects, and you would say, you know, I know that's not what you were calling for.
If you wanted to, you certainly could have, but he didn't.
He did not want that to be the end result.
And so you got to see that side of him.
I mean, he is, he's very alpha.
He's about his outfit.
You think? Yeah.
Another question I asked him was, I said, you know, in his 20s, Abraham Lincoln gave a famous speech called a Lyceum speech.
And Lincoln predicted that if America was ever destroyed, it would not come from abroad.
It would come from within.
But from where? I said, Lincoln said that there will be widespread lawlessness in society, and then a figure will arise, kind of like a Caesar or a Napoleon, who will manipulate that lawlessness to subvert the republic.
And I said, the left goes, oh yeah, of course, Lincoln was correct.
Here we are. It's Trump.
He's the Caesar that we've been warning you against.
He's the Caesar that Lincoln prophesied.
What do you think about that?
And again, you know, here's Trump, and it's framing a question in a kind of historical perspective, yet it's describing a threat that's very real today.
I mean, I don't know of a previous period in American history when the threat of genuine tyranny is so real.
And of course, one of the themes I wanted to develop in the film is, yes, there is a tyrannical threat, but no, it's not coming from Trump.
It's really coming from the other side.
But I wanted Trump to reflect on this, and you can again see him making sense of it, We talk about, like, what dictatorial things did you do when you were in office?
Did you, your crowd sometimes called, you know, lock her up, lock her up, but you didn't lock her up.
Well, why not? So all of this is in the film, and I think it's eye-opening for any American to see it because it shows Trump, not that I'm trying to give you a different Trump, I'm just trying to round out the picture.
Well, I think that's really good to kind of soften the edges because you've got a left-stream media that is non-stop trying to demonize him.
And so to show a different perspective is something that other people are just starting to see.
I mean, now that you've had two assassination attempts and you see exactly how he handled it, you see how he's treating the hurricane victims, you see how he dealt with trying to gain and get peace in the Middle East, you're starting to see the leader for who he is, his substance, which is what I think most people are trying to figure out that are new to the party.
And I mean new to the party because you have so many people from the left that are now saying, okay, wow, can't be so bad if you've got Elon Musk, if you've got J.D. Vance, if you've got, of course, Tulsi Gabbard, and some of the others that are now saying, hey, I want to be part of this.
This is big.
This is big, and I want to see what this is about.
It was huge when Robert Kennedy Jr.
dropped out of the race and supported him, too.
I didn't even see it coming.
I usually can see things coming.
I didn't even see that. No, that and Elon Musk, I think, are two of the huge decisive factors.
I mean, you saw Elon Musk at the Butler rally.
I mean, he was like a kid jumping up and down.
Amazing. Unbelievable.
The interesting thing about all this is that this is not an election that should be even close, right?
I mean, you've got an outstanding, larger-than-life, courageous figure on the one hand, a complete buffoon on the other.
But just when I'm beginning to give up on the IQ of the American people, I've got to remind myself that for all the people who are in the middle, the undecideds, if you will, they have very little, really no exposure to conservative media.
And all they get is bombarded 24-7 the propaganda, the coordinated propaganda of the left.
You can't, in a way, blame them too much because this is all they hear.
And I think that's what's keeping even the Democrats alive in this race, is the sort of gross intervention of a propagandistic media.
So was that your idea when you were putting together this particular movie?
That you wanted to basically take us back through it all?
To kind of remind everybody what has happened since the very beginning.
Okay, we're not going to take this guy.
The apprentice guy, seriously, right?
I mean, that was it.
It was kind of out of the blue.
And then all of a sudden, one by one, he started going through all of the candidates.
And then he was faced with Hillary Clinton.
And then when he really had some great zingers with her, exposing her...
Lock her up. I almost feel like that gave them the idea.
Well, let's lock him up.
Then we won't have to deal with him again.
But you were so clever in how you recreated that for everybody.
Well, a lot of people wonder, you know, when Trump is in a New York courtroom and 34 times they repeat the word guilty, right?
These are the felony convictions in Alvin Bragg's courtroom.
Like, what is the reaction at CNN or at the New York Times?
Are those guys watching this with repertorial equanimity?
Yes, we have to cover this tomorrow.
No. Or are they like high-fiving each other?
Jake Tapper, you did an amazing job.
No, you deserve the credit.
You know, what's going on inside of the DNC, inside the media, inside the intelligence agencies.
So, you know, we imaginatively recreate these things and it also makes our film more of a docudrama and not just a kind of standard documentary.
The other thing I want to mention is that a movie is an end run around not only the media, but around digital censorship.
Because they can repress you on YouTube or Google or Facebook, but you can't stop people going to the theater.
And so that's why I think it is a new megaphone, a new medium, if you will, for us to communicate.
And a movie is a powerful form of communications because it appeals both to the head and to the heart.
So the movie is still in theaters.
It won't be in theaters very much longer because this is already toward the end of the second week.
I make him for the theater.
So if you can see him in the theater, do that.
And our website, by the way, vindicatingtrump.com.
If you plug in your city, it'll pop up the theaters where it's playing or your town.
And then the book coming out this week, Vindicating Trump, which makes the case in a very different way.
And I'd like to say, too, Danes is one of the people that's an automatic home run every time he does something.
He's one of them rare people that if he does something, I want to see it.
And it's always good.
Never misses. Always spot on.
Well, movies, you know, the thing I've learned over eight movies, and I figured this out, you know, along the way, is you cannot make a movie to do, quote, messaging.
And people are always telling me to do that.
Do a movie on the border, Dinesh.
We need to do some messaging. You have to make a movie entertaining.
Emotional. It has to have narrative.
In fact, a good documentary film will have a lot of the same features as a good feature film.
It'll have character, plot, suspense, climax, a musical kind of score that is the emotional register of the movie.
So I pay a lot of attention to those aspects of the movie.
And if you make an engaging, entertaining movie with a great story, then you can do a lot of messaging inside of that.
And I think that's the key to making a film successful.
It's true. There are so many one-liners.
Like, you know, it's only against the law if we're not the ones doing it.
I didn't say it exactly the way you came out with that particular line, but there were certain statements in that movie that will stay with me.
The one-liners where I'm like, absolutely spot on.
That's how Washington DeSleys, as I like to call them, works.
I mean, as long as they're in charge, they're not breaking any rules.
As long as they're handling the whole thing, who's ever going to call them on it?
And that's really exposed here.
I mean, we know about the China connection with Joe Biden.
We know about Hunter Biden.
We know how they've been selling access.
I mean, it's common knowledge.
But if they do it, nobody touches them because that's the old establishment.
There is no accountability.
And I think part of what we've learned, and this did not happen in the Reagan years, it's happened only under Trump, is we recognize that there is this fetid swamp, this kind of watering hole, and all the best spots at the watering hole are occupied by the Democrats.
They do allow some smaller spots at the swamp for some Republicans.
And so Republicans, too, have sort of a vested interest in protecting that swamp.
And so here comes Trump. I'm going to drain it!
You know, and just by saying that, he threatens the establishment Republican and Democrat.
And so he's exposed a much deeper problem than we thought we had.
And even Trump, I think, was surprised.
I mean, he knew the media was left-wing.
I think he knew that Hollywood was left-wing, academia.
I don't think he knew the FBI was left-wing, or the CIA, or the military, or the guys in the white coats, the CDC, the NIH. So Trump's first term exposed that the rot and the corruption go much deeper than we had previously suspected.
And I'm so glad they've revealed themselves.
I mean, if you were to look at things right now, okay, with a Trump win, which we're all anticipating.
I mean, we're not acting like that now.
We're acting like we're losing by a landslide because we want to make sure that everybody is able to get out there and vote and bring 10, 20 people with you when you go.
We know what we're up against.
But what do you think is going to happen when he does take office?
What do you expect to see first?
Well, I do think that there will be a last-ditch effort to cheat.
Now, they can't cheat in quite the same way that we described in 2000 mules because if they send mules in the middle of the night with backpacks and latex gloves, there'll be patriots waiting for them at the drop boxes.
That's not going to work. In the film, we do expose a new form of cheating.
The section is called the ballot makers, and you just have to see it too.
You'll really find it pretty mind-blowing.
But again, my purpose in revealing it is not to obviously educate the thieves, but to blow their cover beforehand so it's more difficult for them to pull this stuff off.
I agree that if Trump wins, and I think he will win, the left will go berserk.
They will have used all their power against him.
I mean, they were convinced that a shotgun blast of 91 criminal charges would have already put him flat on his back.
So they're now in the desperation mode, and they will go...
Out of control over the next four years.
So it's going to be a rocky four years, but I think it's going to be a necessary rockiness for us to be able to get to a better place after that.
Well, what kind of scares me is when I hear them asking President Trump and asking J.D. Vance as well, will this be a peaceful transfer?
Which lets me know immediately that they are not going to allow this to be a peaceful transfer.
I mean, that's their first tell.
Whatever they start accusing President Trump of doing, they are going to be guilty of themselves.
So do I think that this is going to be a peaceful transfer of power?
Absolutely, 100% not.
They're not going to just send, you know, a Podesta out there to give a concession speech or whoever it is on Kamala's team to do that the night of the election.
In fact, they've said, we will not know the results for several weeks.
We've heard that being floated as well.
But do I think that this is going to be a peaceful transfer?
No, since they're asking President Trump and J.D. Vance those questions, I do not.
What do you anticipate in that type of a situation?
Well, I think they are going to—nothing is beneath them at this point.
In fact, I think that even if you look at the two assassination attempts, there are so many bizarre, unanswered questions regarding both of those.
Now, I'm not dumb enough to suggest that they coordinated an assassination attempt, because, quite frankly, if they did, they're not gonna pick 20-year-old Thomas Crooks to do it.
But it is not out of the question that in the first assassination attempt, there are people high up in the government or the Secret Service or one of the intelligence agencies that basically goes, we know that there are these kooks out there.
We know that there's this one kook who's looking for a roof, and we're just gonna leave that roof kind of...
We're gonna look the other way.
Mm-hmm.
I would never think like this 10 years ago or 20 years ago.
I would consider this to be a very unhinged way of thinking.
But I think what's happened with these institutions, the NIH, the CDC, the CIA, the FBI, and now we have to add FEMA, is that they have earned our distrust.
We are rightly and reasonably distrustful of them because they have proven that they can't be trusted.
Boy, I would say.
So how in the world do we get to see this movie while it is still going on in theaters?
We can go straight to the website, vindicatingtrump.com.
Is that correct? Yes.
VindicatingTrump.com. Plug in your town or city.
It'll pop up the theaters now.
We started out in about 800 theaters, 850 theaters.
We're down to a few hundred theaters.
So it may not be playing in your region, in which case, relax.
Don't worry about it. It's going to be available in streaming.
It's going to be available in DVD. So you can actually pre-order DVDs right now.
Same website, VindicatingTrump.com.
And you can also order the book, which is out tomorrow, so you'll get it immediately on the same site.
Oh, this is fantastic.
See, you can buy your tickets right here.
You can buy the DVD. It's all set up for you.
You can watch the trailer.
And these are some of the statements.
And I loved some of the clips of your interview with President Trump.
Those were fantastic.
And the way you approached this whole thing.
Just amazing stuff.
And then the book is out tomorrow.
The book is out tomorrow.
You know, books and movies are different.
The book is a little bit more of a legal brief.
It's an argument. It has all the references.
And you can put more information in a book than you can in a film.
I generally release a book and a movie kind of side by side.
It's my one-two punch.
The book appealing really more to a more sort of cerebral audience that wants the full picture, wants it all laid out systematically, intellectually.
The movie is a kind of an exciting, fast-paced narrative.
And I think both work in their own Oh boy, this movie absolutely works.
I don't know how you find the time between your podcast and all of your postings and all the different things that you do, a movie and a book and everything else.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Do you have any parting words for the Littermates today?
Well, just one thought about the Democrats.
You know, I think that they have stopped functioning as a normal political party.
They now function as a regime.
And here's what I mean. It's quite clear that with Biden, they told him, you don't need a primary.
We're going to move you to the front.
You're going to be the face of the party, but we're going to be telling you what to do.
You're in the canoe, but you're not driving the canoe.
And frankly, if we tell you to go, you have to be ready to leave.
And I think Kamala Harris has come in on the same deal.
No primary for you.
We're going to move you to the front, but you're going to be our pawn.
And quite frankly, if we tire of you or you become inconvenient, we reserve the right to move you out and you will go with a smile.
So think of how scary this is.
We have a junta running the country right now whose names we can guess at, but we don't really know.
And the Democrats are offering us four more years of the same.
It's beyond the pale of any common sense of how anybody can vote for this lady.
I just don't get it. It doesn't make any sense.
And in fact, I think there's an effort underway on the part of the media to tell people, don't believe your lying eyes.
Don't believe your pocketbook.
Don't believe the crime in your city or town.
Don't believe the hordes of people rushing across the border.
Don't believe the babbling idiot that you've seen, Kamala Harris.
Believe the smoke and mirrors image of this new and improved Kamala that we have for you.
I mean, it is based upon such a low estimation of the intelligence of the American people.
The Democrats are counting on people to be complete suckers.
They really are. I mean, and yet they're sitting over there screaming, democracy.
And I'm going, you haven't had democracy over there in your party in years.
I mean, we remember what happened with Bernie Sanders.
You don't even vote.
You don't even vote for your candidates in the primer anymore.
Everybody dropped out with Biden just simultaneously.
So you didn't get to vote then and you didn't have a vote this time.
Totally. No. I mean, hey, even in police states around the world, we do know who the leader is, right?
Xi is running China. Putin's running Russia.
We know who's running Cuba.
We know who's running Iran. We do not even know who's running the United States or has been for the past four years.
Thank you. We've been captured.
That's how it feels.
It feels like our entire government has been captured and that it's completely rogue.
And I was so glad when President Trump started calling that out.
Who's running the country?
Who's running the country?
Because nobody knows. We know it's not Biden.
Biden can't even stand up for very long.
He shuffles. He doesn't walk.
He doesn't know where he is half the time.
He's constantly looking to the right or the left.
And now that, you know, Dr.
Jill, or whatever you want to call her, babysitter Jill, has ditched him and he's on his own, he's just, you know, kind of wandering around like an empty vessel.
It's wild. It's crazy.
And then look at Biden as a kind of, you know, his image that he projects around the world is that America is basically getting around on a walker.
So he makes the whole country look feeble, demented, lethargic, and so on.
And of course, The actions of the administration, the incompetence of the Secret Service, the incompetence of FEMA. I think there's a malevolence behind all this incompetence.
I think that in almost every case, you can find some form of election interference in pretty much everything the Democrats do.
You just have to look hard enough.
Oh, truly. I mean, you can only imagine what President Trump is going to actually inherit when he gets back into the Oval Office.
We're staring at World War III. We're looking at open borders.
We're going to have to deport all of these illegal criminal aliens that are in our country and everything else.
I mean, they are handing him just a whole sack of, you know, and saying, okay, well, you want to be in charge?
Here, fix it. He's gonna spend a lot of time going through all of that, but if anybody, if there ever was anybody that could fix it, it's definitely him.
He made it look easy the first time.
I think also he needs to bring in people who have a certain maniacal devotion to cleaning up these agencies.
It's not just a matter of replacing the guy at the top.
They've set up a corrupt set of incentives that goes all the way down.
So, for example, the ordinary FBI agent, who may not be all that political, is basically told, hey, listen, you want a promotion?
You want a bonus?
You want a commendation?
Go find and arrest some new January 6th guys.
Don't worry about the child trafficking going on at the border.
This is the high-priority assignment, and that's how you get your— So they've corrupted the bureaucratic carrots and sticks all the way down, and so there needs to be somebody who goes in with a blowtorch and absolutely cleans out these agencies from the bottom up.
Oh, I totally agree.
Well, what can we do to help spread the word on your movie?
What can we do with the littermates that are listening in the audience?
How can we get them to start sharing this and where to share it and everything else?
Yeah, I think the best thing is just to talk about it.
If you've seen the film, post about it and share about it.
The website is kind of the one-stop shop boat to follow the theatrical release of the movie and then later other ways to get it.
There's a short kind of runway here through November 5th.
And I'm going to do my best to help get this message out as widely as I can.
Movies, you know, they're persuasive in a different way.
They're more powerful than a campaign commercial or normal types of political messaging, in part because when somebody's watching a campaign commercial, they're sort of, first of all, they've seen it a hundred times.
Second of all, they're kind of on their guard.
It's like somebody has an agenda.
They're trying to sell me on something.
But a movie just draws you in.
It's entertaining. It's fun.
You can watch it with your family.
And so it has a persuasive impact that's more subtle and yet in many ways more lasting.
Oh, it's just an awesome movie.
I'm serious. It was so great to see it and just kind of sit back and have the story told instead of experienced.
Because we've been experiencing this for the last couple of years and it's really been awful.
I cannot wait until we start functioning as a constitutional republic again instead of a banana republic.
It's just gotten out of control.
Thank you, Dinesh, for hanging out with us today and thank you for doing this movie.
Always a pleasure. Always welcome here, buddy.
Thank you so much. It's been fun.
Thanks for having me. Definitely.
Thank you. All right, guys.
All right. Bye. Bye. Okay, so this is how you do it.
You can head on over to vindicatingtrump.com, and you can watch this movie.
I watched it last night and just enjoyed it immensely.
Incredible. And these clips, and I'll play them on our show just so you can see them, and you can see the exchange between Dinesh and the way he asked President Trump the questions.
I thought that was really interesting because he went about the questions in a way that you got to see a different side of Trump.
A side that the left tries to pretend doesn't exist but really got to the bottom line and got to the point.
It is fantastic.
It's a great watch.
Hopefully you all will get over there and see Vindicating Trump.
Just visit vindicatingtrump.com and you'll have all of the information here.
You can also buy the The DVD and everything else.
All of his movies are good.
They're really good.
But we also need you out there getting the vote out.
And a lot for today, at least, there's a lot of states that, you know, this is the last day to register to vote.
So make sure that you are going ahead and getting the message out as far as that's concerned.
There are quite a few states that are still out there.
You've got Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas.
It is the last day to register to vote.
So make sure that everybody gets out there, grab a friend, help them out, let them know how they can register because this is the most important election of our lifetime.
Kat, is there anything else you would like to add after your experience this weekend?
Yeah, just I'm keeping the guard up so everybody knows the tornado is actually not heading toward me.
I'll probably get some tropical storm stuff, but if it hits where it's gonna hit, it's not gonna affect me that much.
Wow, it's going to affect...
I'll keep it, you know, Wednesday, we'll see how it's going.
I may or may not be here Wednesday, so we'll see.
We'll see, but then also, let's not forget, Rumble's home is on Longboat Key, Sarasota, Florida.
They have a headquarters there.
Absolutely. They are going to get hit.
So our prayers to our friends at Rumble.
I know that they're probably, you know, already taking, you know, everything very seriously and starting to evacuate and starting to do all the things that they need to do.
They're just amazing over there and we wish them well as we do everybody else that's in the path of this next hurricane and in the previous hurricane.
They're still not finished.
All right, everybody. Will you all be safe?
You be kind to one another and we will see you later.
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