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| Coming up on C-SPAN's Washington Journal, we'll talk about the Senate's failure to advance a government funding package and the latest on a potential government shutdown with The Hill's Al Weaver. | ||
| Then, former Chief of Staff to First Lady Laura Bush, Anita McBride, discusses the accomplishments of the current First Lady, Melania Trump, since her return to the White House, the release of the new documentary, Melania, and the role of political spouses. | ||
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| Washington Journal starts now. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| It's Friday, January 30th. | ||
| Senate Democrats and the White House have struck a deal to avert a partial government shutdown, at least for now. | ||
| The deal funds five full-year appropriations bills and puts the Department of Homeland Security on a two-week continuing resolution. | ||
| Lawmakers say they need that time to keep negotiating over immigration enforcement. | ||
| Democrats want to end roving ICE Patrol, create a universal code of conduct, and require officers to remove masks, wear body cameras, and display identification. | ||
| We want to hear from you. | ||
| What do you think of the deal to keep the government open? | ||
| And what should Congress and the administration do next on immigration enforcement? | ||
| Here's how to reach us. | ||
| Democrats, 202748-8000. | ||
| Republicans, 202-748-8001. | ||
| And Independents, 202-748-8002. | ||
| You can also send us a text to 202-748-8003, include your first name in your city-state. | ||
| You can also reach us on social media, facebook.com slash C-SPAN, and X at C-SPANWJ. | ||
| Welcome to today's Washington Journal. | ||
| We have some breaking news for you this morning, and that is President Trump has announced his pick for Fed chair. | ||
| He just sent out a Truth Social, so here it is. | ||
| It says, I am pleased to announce that I am nominating Kevin Warsh to be the chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. | ||
| Kevin currently serves as the Shepherd Family Distinguished Visiting Fellow in Economics at the Hoover Institution and lecturer at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. | ||
| We will get more into his background later in the program. | ||
| But before we get to your calls, we are joined by a Capitol Hill reporter to update us on what's happening there. | ||
| That's Al Weaver, staff writer at The Hill. | ||
| Al, welcome to the program. | ||
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Thank you for having me. | |
| So explain to us this deal and what does it entail? | ||
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Sure. | |
| The White House and Sun Democrats came out lately or early evening yesterday, said that they have a deal to split off the DHS portion of the six-build mini-bus. | ||
| So now basically it'll be a five-bill mini-bus that funds things like the Pentagon, labor, health and human services, those type of departments. | ||
| That'll be through the end of the fiscal year, through the end of September, while peeling off this DHS portion. | ||
| The timeline for that now is a deal by Valentine's Day weekend, February 13th. | ||
| And that's going to be an uphill climb for legislators to try to nail down a deal on that. | ||
| But right now, things have kind of hit a snag. | ||
| Late last night, Senator Lindsey Graham made clear he has a hold on this bill over the Arctic Frost provision that is being repealed by House members. | ||
| It was a House-led effort. | ||
| And just remind us, that was the ability of lawmakers to sue the Justice Department if their phone records are taken. | ||
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The phone records were seized in Jack Smith's probe, yes. | |
| And he is one of the only ones that has said, yes, I would take money and I would put it in my bank account and that type of thing. | ||
| And it's been a bit of a lonely journey for Senator Graham. | ||
| But he's holding this up and he can do it for many days if he so chose, just like any other senator. | ||
| And is he willing to shut down the government over this? | ||
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It remains. | |
| He's making a stink about it now. | ||
| Whether he's willing to shut down part of the government, it remains unclear. | ||
| And tell us about who was involved in this negotiation. | ||
| I know that Senator Schumer was involved. | ||
| Did he meet directly with President Trump on this? | ||
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It doesn't appear so. | |
| I mean, I think they had some backtrack negotiations. | ||
| I haven't seen, there's not been reporting that they have met face to face on this. | ||
| But those were the two main principles of this. | ||
| Leader Thune had made clear that the negotiation needed to happen between those two. | ||
| Trump can also bring along House Republicans eventually when this bill reaches the House in the coming days, because that's going to be a mountain to climb of its own. | ||
| So that's why there was those two. | ||
| Yeah, let's talk about the House because they are not in session today. | ||
| They were out all week. | ||
| Does that mean that the government is going to shut down over the weekend because they're not going to come back until Monday to vote? | ||
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Yes, there will be a funding lapse over the weekend and potentially part of Monday, but it could extend into next week potentially. | |
| There are some House members that have issues that they want attached onto this bill if things are reopened again. | ||
| You know, Ana Paulina Luno has the SAVE Act that she wants attached. | ||
| Remind us of the SAVE Act. | ||
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Forces you do a show ID when you go to vote, for example. | |
| There are provisions like that that members want if they are going to reopen this negotiation and potentially make it in their mind more left-leaning. | ||
| The Senate comes in at 11 a.m. today, so they are going to vote on this deal. | ||
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They're hoping so. | |
| They need clearance from all 100 senators to do so. | ||
| They need consent. | ||
| So besides Senator Graham, are there any senators that you're looking, you're going to be watching specifically? | ||
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We're waiting to find out what the exact Democratic holds are right now. | |
| There is at least one. | ||
| Leader Thune told us that last night. | ||
| Schumer was a little more coy. | ||
| He wanted to keep the focus on Graham and some Republican holds. | ||
| But right now, the main goal is trying to clear those and get a time agreement so we can get this thing passed today. | ||
| So we're not sure that the Democrats in the Senate are all united on this. | ||
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Correct. | |
| Are there specific people that you think might be holdouts? | ||
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Not at the moment. | |
| They're trying to keep those close to the vest and trying to hammer those out while they're able to. | ||
| But right now, the most acute one appears to be Senator Graham, who was none too pleased last night. | ||
| He made his voice known on that. | ||
| And going back to the House, as far as you can tell, are there enough votes to get this passed? | ||
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Well, that's been the whole problem the whole time. | |
| That was why Thune, for example, did not want this bill to have to try to even go back to the House. | ||
| He wanted to pass the bills as it was, the six-bill mini-bus, with DHS funding through the end of the year. | ||
| They tried making the argument that, look, this DHS bill does not, 80% of it does not deal with ICE. | ||
| It deals with things like FEMA, Secret Service, TSA. | ||
| TSA is going to get potentially caught up in this once again. | ||
| And that was why they tried to hammer that point home. | ||
| Obviously, Democrats have their own issues at stake with their voting base and the anger out there after the Minneapolis shooting last weekend. | ||
| But that was part of that reason. | ||
| Is there an understanding that President Trump is going to have to get involved to get the Hill Republicans all on board on this? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| That is part of the calculus: he will need to whip some of these members and just call them and tell them how he feels. | ||
| He's been no stranger to giving members calls lately on numerous subjects, and I think that's part of the thinking on this. | ||
| All right, well, we'll see how that all plays out. | ||
| The Senate comes in at 11 a.m. | ||
| And of course, you can watch that on C-SPAN too. | ||
| Al Weaver, staff writer at The Hill. | ||
| You can find his work at thehill.com. | ||
| Thanks so much for joining us. | ||
| Thank you, Mimi. | ||
| And let's take a look at Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on the Senate floor yesterday. | ||
| He was speaking before the deal was announced on the specific ICE reforms his party is seeking. | ||
| These three, ending the roving patrols, enforcing accountability, masks off, cameras on, are common sense reforms. | ||
| They are reforms that Americans already expect from law enforcement. | ||
| Now, the onus now is on Leader Thun and Senate Republicans to work with Democrats to turn these goals into legislation. | ||
| They are in the majority, the Republicans are. | ||
| They're the ones who have responsibility to govern, and Democrats are ready to come to the table. | ||
| If Republicans refuse to work with us to rein in ICE and to end the violence, they're telling the American people they're choosing to protect ICE over choosing to protect people's safety. | ||
| Americans, by and large, support law enforcement. | ||
| I do. | ||
| And most people support border security. | ||
| I do as well. | ||
| But Americans do not support ICE terrorizing our streets, operating outside the law, killing American citizens. | ||
| The madness and violence must end. | ||
| Congress must act to rein in ICE and end the violence. | ||
| Rein in ICE and end the violence. | ||
| The American people deserve nothing, nothing less. | ||
| Senator Chuck Schumer, and here's a Punch Bowl News reporter posting this on X. Andrew Desaderio says, Schumer just left the building. | ||
| This is around 11 p.m. last night. | ||
| Said, quote, Republicans need to get their act together and that Graham is the holdup, but wouldn't say when asked several times if Dems are clear of objections on their side. | ||
| Laura Weiss says, Thune leaving the Capitol as Senate still without time agreement for funding deal, quote, well, I hope we can get these issues resolved. | ||
| Right now, we've got snags on both sides, but tomorrow's another day. | ||
| Hopefully, people will be in a spirit to try and get this done tomorrow, meaning today. | ||
| Laura also says this: Senator Graham says leaving Thune's office that the Senate won't be voting on funding deal tonight. | ||
| Graham on Arctic Frost, quote, I fixed the problem that people had. | ||
| I'm not going to ignore what happened. | ||
| If you were abused, you think you were abused, your phone records were illegally seized, you should have your day in court. | ||
| And he says, Graham also railing against the funding deal, saying, The cops need us right now. | ||
| They're being demonized. | ||
| They're being spat upon. | ||
| They can't sleep at night. | ||
| Those are Punch Bowl News reporters, and we are taking your calls. | ||
| You can give us a call on the phone lines on your screen. | ||
| It's 202748-8000 for Democrats, 202748-8001 for Republicans, and 202748-8002 for Independents. | ||
| We'll go to Tom, Democrat in California. | ||
| Good morning, Tom. | ||
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Good morning, and thank you for taking my call. | |
| I have been observing this, and I've been involved in demonstrations over the years. | ||
| I'm a Vietnam vet. | ||
| I've been involved with the anti-war, Vietnam War demonstration, and through the years, other, you know, other rights that have to be brought to attention by using the demonstrations and rallies. | ||
| I think the fact of the matter is that what got the American people up in arms, and I hate to use the word up in arms. | ||
| I just mean they got upset and they started marching. | ||
| It wasn't a fact of the matter. | ||
| Yes, we need to get the people who are violent, who are here illegally, off the street, put them in jail, send them back. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But what was happening that you were now detaining and taking people who were here legally. | ||
| They had visas, they had green cards, they started taking them. | ||
| And they started picking on and detaining and arresting American citizens. | ||
| The fact of the matter is, I was told that we actually had ICE agents out here in California. | ||
| They tackled this man to the ground because he just had to ask us. | ||
| Where about in California are you, Tom? | ||
| Are you? | ||
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I'm in Northern California. | |
| Northern California. | ||
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Right. | |
| All right. | ||
| Here's Gordon, Kansas City, Kansas, Republican. | ||
| Hi, Gordon. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| How are you today? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Go right ahead with your comment. | ||
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I think it's time for the water cannons and the German Shepherds to come out. | |
| And we'll turn those protesters into little ice cubes. | ||
| And they can go home. | ||
| And if there's any of them left, we'll stick the dogs on them. | ||
| And why is that, Gordon? | ||
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It's time for that crap to stop. | |
| Okay, but I mean, Americans have the right to protest. | ||
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They can protest. | |
| They're just going to get wet. | ||
| All right. | ||
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It's cold outside. | |
| It is definitely cold. | ||
| And this is Mitchell, New Jersey, Democrat. | ||
| Go ahead, Mitchell. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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It's unfortunate that I have to follow a comment from your last caller like that. | |
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Look, I support the Democrats withholding the appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security. | |
| I don't want to see a shutdown. | ||
| It's disruptive to the American people. | ||
| Certainly the funding for FEMA and ESA is critical and would be felt almost immediately by the public. | ||
| But this has got to stop. | ||
| The whole enforcement mechanism that ICE and the Border Patrol are using is completely incoherent. | ||
| If you look at the logistics of how you would actually accomplish picking up people who are dangerous to the United States, you wouldn't send massive army patrols into American City and asking for documentation for people walking. | ||
| It's unconstitutional. | ||
| You don't have to present any proof of identity to police. | ||
| I mean, this is completely violating our constitutional laws. | ||
| All right, go change the Constitution if you want to do that. | ||
| You can't, I know I hear from some voters. | ||
| Well, they voted the president to take care of immigration. | ||
| And yes, there were a lot of concerns about immigration. | ||
| I have concerns about immigration and the way the border was run. | ||
| But it's an extremely complex issue. | ||
| Just closing down the border. | ||
| You know, many times Democrats have asked Republicans, well, what are we going to do about the people who are here already? | ||
| Because there are millions of them. | ||
| Well, you know, we're not even going to talk about it until you close down the border. | ||
| Okay, the border is, for all intents and purposes, closed down. | ||
| But now they, you know, the real answer is that they want everybody who's undocumented picked up and removed. | ||
| And that is just a logistic impossibility without causing mass chaos, mass harm to the American population, and violence and all the craziness that we're seeing now. | ||
| It can't go on. | ||
| It's got to be reigned in. | ||
| I think that yesterday's agreement between Minnesota and Hallman to have access to the prisons makes some sense, but you can't have his presence on the street anymore. | ||
| It's got to stop, and it has to be reigned in. | ||
| I've contacted Senator Kim and Senator Booker, my representatives, and told them not to approve his appropriations until they have some measure of control on it. | ||
| I think what's being proposed is certainly reasonable. | ||
| They need warrants, and that's the way they should go forward. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right, Mitchell. | ||
| This is Robin in Garland, Texas, Republican. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| I just wanted to say that I'm an NRA member, and I have a concealed carry license. | ||
| And there are several rules that you have to abide by to carry concealed. | ||
| One, you're not allowed to carry at a political rally, any kind of convention, anything political, any kind of political event, you're not supposed to carry. | ||
| You're not supposed to carry in bars and clubs where alcohol is sold. | ||
| No federal or government place you can enter, or no courthouse. | ||
| Definitely, no, you're not allowed to enter any place that's marked. | ||
| No carry. | ||
| You're not supposed to go into a post office, a hospital, or a nursing home. | ||
| So, Robin, those are the wrong. | ||
| Those are the laws in Texas, right? | ||
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That's right. | |
| But in Minnesota, I guess Alex Predi was carrying legally. | ||
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I don't see how. | |
| And I think they ought to arrest the governor and the mayor because they're inciting this violence that's going on. | ||
| These people are way out of line. | ||
| They're trying to cover their own self by calling these, I say, against Nazis and everything else. | ||
| They're bringing this on themselves to cover their tracks for the theft that they stole. | ||
| That's the way I feel. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably different in Texas. | ||
| It seems like it should be stricter in an eastern state, wouldn't it? | ||
| All right, Robin. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Let's take a look at Senator, sorry, Secretary Christy Noam. | ||
| She was on Fox News, and she talked about her initial response to the killing of Alex Preddy in Minneapolis. | ||
| It seems as you look at videos that the weapon may have been stripped, though, before that happened. | ||
| And I guess my question is: you know, was that statement premature? | ||
| Well, Sean, I know you realize that that situation was very chaotic and that we were being relayed information from on the ground from CBP agents and officers that were there. | ||
| We were using the best information we had at the time, seeking to be transparent with the American people and get them what we knew to be true on the ground. | ||
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| So we will continue to follow the investigation that the FBI is leading and giving them all the information that they need to bring that to a conclusion and make sure that the American people know the truth of the situation and how we can go forward and continue to protect the American people. | ||
| As untenable as this is, and you know, and all these politicians pouring gasoline on what is already a difficult situation, and that's enforcement of the law, arresting the worst of the worst, and I'll get to that in a minute. | ||
| The president's called for a full investigation. | ||
| Stephen Miller seemed to concede that maybe some protocols weren't followed. | ||
| You know, again, everything's hindsight 2020, and these things go down very quickly. | ||
| Any lessons to be learned? | ||
| Handle things differently going forward? | ||
| Well, Sean, that's part of the reason why we have several layers of an investigation here. | ||
| We believe that we can always do better, and we seek to do that every single day. | ||
| And we want to make sure that we not only improve protocols on the ground in chaotic and volatile situations like this, but that we continue to find the truth around this situation and get the facts to the American people and make sure that we continue to do our work every day with integrity, but that we continue to be able to get criminals and dangerous people off the streets like these officers have been doing for months ever since President Trump came back into office. | ||
| That was Secretary Noam, and we are taking your calls this morning on the likely deal to avoid a government shutdown. | ||
| Funding runs out tonight at midnight. | ||
| And the numbers are on your screen. | ||
| Democrats are on 202748-8000. | ||
| Republicans 202-748-8001. | ||
| And Independents 202-748-8002. | ||
| Let's talk to Evelyn in Baltimore, Maryland. | ||
| Democrat. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, Mimi. | |
| I'm listening to everybody talk about what's going on in Minnesota. | ||
| Now, my problem is why the masks? | ||
| Because police officers, federal officers, they raid, they lock up people and everything, and they don't have masks on. | ||
| And I'm feeling like the reason for the masks is because I believe it's like the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, the people from January 6th. | ||
| It just don't make no sense. | ||
| I mean, and then everybody talking about people shouldn't break the law, but we got a man in the White House with 34 counts. | ||
| Felonies. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Beth is in Sussex, New Jersey, Republican. | ||
| Go ahead, Beth. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| The Democrats are desperate to hang on to all these illegal immigrants. | ||
| They're their future voters. | ||
| People, get smart. | ||
| This midterm, go out there, vote for candidates that support President Trump. | ||
| Because we lose the House, they're going to find a way to open that border all over again. | ||
| And in Minneapolis, they are inciting the violence. | ||
| They're probably delighted that there was violence there. | ||
| It takes all the focus off the fraud going on in Minneapolis. | ||
| You get that? | ||
| All right, vote. | ||
| Got that. | ||
| Bruce in Tennessee, Independent Line. | ||
| Go ahead, Bruce. | ||
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What I want to talk about is Schumer keeps saying laws should be enforced. | |
| Jacksonville says it should be enforced now. | ||
| Bruce, we've got a lot of noise. | ||
| If you don't mind, if you could just hang up and try us again so we can hear what you were going to say. | ||
| Neil in Scranton, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Democrat, you're on the air, Neil. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Yeah, the country is in the shape it's in for you people that voted Trump back in. | ||
| Severely unqualified, incompetent person. | ||
| And then he got all severely unqualified, incompetent people confirmed: Bondi, Hegset, Patel, Noam. | ||
| Severely incompetent people. | ||
| That's why the country is in the shape that it's in. | ||
| These ICE agents, you can't have masked, unidentified officers on the street. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| It's just completely out of control. | ||
| Just the only slight hope is in November, vote as many Republicans out as we can, get back to House and Senate, and impeach Trump immediately. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Let's talk to Donnie, who is calling us from Louisville, Kentucky, on the Republican line. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| The reason I'm calling during this homeland security bill, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats want the security people to unmask. | ||
| Well, there should be no agreement on the land security bill if PICE, with all their identity they wear showing who they are, does not need to unmask. | ||
| They got ICE on the front of them, ICE on the back of them. | ||
| Only way they should be able to unmask is if the law covers protesters to unmask the same. | ||
| Because we have no idea. | ||
| Most of these people are paid protesters, and the IRS ought to go after them and whoever's paying them for. | ||
| Donnie, you know, there's no evidence that protesters are paid to protest. | ||
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Well, you haven't been watching the right channels, Jim, because there's one channel last night that showed one guy said he'd been there for two years. | |
| He had been being paid for two years to protest. | ||
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Two years for once. | |
| He said the name of the organization. | ||
| I don't know what it went, what it was. | ||
| There were two people that said who they were working for. | ||
| They showed them handing signs out of the back of a pickup truck. | ||
| So there's two things here, though, Donnie. | ||
| There is organization. | ||
| So there are organizations that are organizing protests. | ||
| So they would be telling people, here's where we're going to be. | ||
| This is what time we're going to show up. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| There's training for protests. | ||
| All that, yes, that is funded. | ||
| However, no, paying people to go and stand on the street, there is no evidence of that. | ||
| So those are two different things. | ||
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Well, if the Metropolitan Police would have been there, this gunshot would have never happened because they would have been between the man that got shot and ICE. | |
| If they would have been there and did their job, the governor and the mayor and really the police chief should be the ones that are being admonished because this man should have never been allowed to get in the street. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, let's hear from the mayor of Minneapolis. | ||
| This is Jacob Fry. | ||
| He was at the U.S. Conference of Mayors winter meeting here in D.C. Here's what he said: I see your faces on TV. | ||
| I feel the support from across the entire country, and we recognize that one great American city is experiencing an invasion. | ||
| That is an invasion on our democracy, on our republic, and on each and every one of us. | ||
| And the fact that you all are standing up means the world. | ||
| Never in a million years did I think that we would be in this place where troops and federal agents by the thousands have been deployed on a great American city. | ||
| where the Department of Justice is used as a weapon to silence dissent, where the very foundational principles of our democracy and of our republic are questioned. | ||
| You know, I didn't take this job to get into the business of defending democracy. | ||
| I did it because being a mayor has always been my dream job. | ||
| There's great honor in filling potholes. | ||
| It is noble to keep people safe and to build affordable housing. | ||
| That work which we do every single day is foundational to the principles of our republic. | ||
| And all the same, we find ourselves in a different position right now. | ||
| We are on the front lines of a very important battle. | ||
| And it's important that we aren't silenced, that we aren't put down. | ||
| This is not a time to bend our heads in despair or out of fear that we may be next. | ||
| Because if we do not speak up, if we do not step out, it will be your city that is next. | ||
| That was Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. | ||
| And we're talking to Bill next in Mesa, Arizona. | ||
| Democrat, you're on the air, Bill. | ||
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Yeah, I'm a Democrat, and I'm for closed borders. | |
| I don't know why they keep saying that if you're a Democrat, you're for open borders. | ||
| And I don't know why they were making a deal where they wanted the voter records of different states. | ||
| And ICE has $157 billion they want. | ||
| That money would be better spent on something else. | ||
| And also, the president doesn't obey the judges' judgments against him. | ||
| And he makes fun of the judges and says a lot of bad things about our judicial system. | ||
| And he's trying to tear it down. | ||
| So we need to think about that, too. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Bill mentioned the voter rolls. | ||
| This is from three days ago. | ||
| This is CNN that says Bondi's injection of voter roll demands into Minneapolis ICE tensions draws claims of ransom. | ||
| It says this Attorney General Pam Bonnie's demand that Minnesota hand over sensitive voter registration records to the federal government amid tensions over ICE and immigration enforcement underscores the importance of the administration's nationwide data grab that is facing resistance in multiple states and has stumbled in the courts. | ||
| That's on CNN if you'd like to read that article. | ||
| Kyle is up next. | ||
| Buffalo, New York, Republican. | ||
| Hi, Kyle. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Quite cold here. | ||
| I've got a snow day. | ||
| I'm a high school legal teacher. | ||
| It's been quite interesting for the last couple of years of covering these type of issues with the law. | ||
| There was a caller earlier that talked, and I don't know if you're a Republican or Democrat, but he was really actually intelligent about his comments because most people understand exactly what's going on. | ||
| We do support immigration, but how are you going to round up millions of people who have been here for decades? | ||
| I mean, Ronald Reagan gave amnesty in the 80s, and I think that's one of the things that started all of that stuff. | ||
| Buffalo, New York, in its own self has changed probably in the last six years. | ||
| My classroom used to be probably 90% black up until 2018. | ||
| Now it's probably about 40% black, mostly immigrants, students from Bangladesh, different countries. | ||
| Yeah, we've had problems here for at least 15 years. | ||
| So you can't blame this president, last president, the one before. | ||
| I think we just need to slow it down a little bit. | ||
| When you sent 2,000 ICE agents to Minnesota, what do you think was going to happen? | ||
| I mean, you just can't have that many people on the street, law enforcement. | ||
| So, and there was a lady earlier that talked about the Democrats just want immigrants for voters, but most of the immigrants who come in are very conservative. | ||
| They don't believe in abortion. | ||
| They don't believe in gay marriage. | ||
| They don't believe in a lot of the stuff that the Democrats talk about. | ||
| So that argument doesn't really stand because we're having more immigrants who vote Republican in our own area. | ||
| So, I mean, that actually helps the Republicans. | ||
| But, you know, it's funny you don't see a lot of black people out there on the street. | ||
| We've learned our lesson. | ||
| You know, like, first of all, you would never catch me bringing a gun anywhere. | ||
| First of all, I'm just a big black guy. | ||
| So we already know the rules of the game. | ||
| And unfortunately, some people, you know, I understand protesting needs to happen. | ||
| And so far, I don't see any looting, any destruction of property. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| You know, we can't take dogs and water hoses on people. | ||
| That's the 60s, you know. | ||
| So, you know, both sides are actually right, Democrats and Republicans. | ||
| That's why we have the separation of ideas, you know, but we have to really be logical. | ||
| You can't just round up people without due process. | ||
| I mean, how are you going to teach kids in school about these things? | ||
| And then you see it on the TV where the laws are being pushed and broken. | ||
| Have your students in your class? | ||
| I don't know how old they are, but have they been asking about what's been going on with immigration enforcement? | ||
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Oh, yes, absolutely. | |
| What do you tell them? | ||
| It's hard because I've had students who they're a student of mine a couple of years ago, his father was rounded up a month ago. | ||
| He's here on political asylum based on, I believe, something with the Afghanistan war stuff, but he had to post bail and he had to hire a lawyer because his court date wasn't yet for the complete process of becoming a citizen. | ||
| So there was money out of the pocket. | ||
| I was wondering, like, how do you have to post bail if you're already here legally? | ||
| But apparently he had to. | ||
| And immigration lawyer. | ||
| Kyle, it's a lot of people that came in during the Biden administration and are pursuing asylum claims. | ||
| They were paroled into the country. | ||
| So they are documented. | ||
| They came in in a legal fashion. | ||
| Once President Trump took office a year ago, he revoked that status. | ||
| So that's probably what happened with your student's father. | ||
| Let's go to Tim in Cobbleskill, New York, Independent Line. | ||
| Go ahead, Tim. | ||
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Good morning, Mimi. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Good. | ||
| What do you think, Tim? | ||
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Well, I think there's a lot of misinformation out there. | |
| First of all, I don't think this is so much about immigration as it is about the elections and creating a lot of confusion so that they keep people from going to the polls and intimidate people. | ||
| And, you know, the, I don't know, one fellow said about pulling out the hoses and the dogs. | ||
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And if he doesn't remember, it was when they did that in the South that all of a sudden the rest of the country saw that and all the empathy started switching towards the civil rights movement. | |
| So he should be careful about what he wishes for. | ||
| But I don't care if they close down the government and keep it closed because the only thing that's going to stop this whole thing is if there's a countrywide economic boycott. | ||
| And when some of Trump's friends start getting hurt in the pocket, that's when they'll change their mind, I think, and start putting an end to this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And let's hear from the White House Borders Art, Tom Homan. | ||
| He spoke yesterday morning, and here's what he said about ICE drawdowns. | ||
| Well, look, the Board of Patrol, last four years under Joe Biden, we had an open border where 10,000, 12,000 people a day are coming across the border. | ||
| Board of Patrol got overwhelmed, which means we sent thousands of ICE agents down there to help deal with that humanitarian crisis, help secure the border. | ||
| Now we have millions of people released in this nation, many unvetted. | ||
| Now we've got to find them. | ||
| Before the big, beautiful bill, we had a total of just under 5,000 deportation officers to look for millions of people, many in public safety threats. | ||
| So yes, we needed Board of Patrol to come and help on our mission now. | ||
| And the reason for the massive deployment is because of the threats, because of the violence. | ||
| Our officers need to be protected. | ||
| If I'm on operation, an arrest team, I'm going to a house, I've got to be busy with that guy, the dangerous guy, and I can't keep looking over my shoulder at what's happening outside the house. | ||
| So we brought extra resources in to provide that security. | ||
| And as I said, as we drill down on these great agreements we got this great understanding we have means less. | ||
| So we can draw down those resources. | ||
| When the violence decreases, we can draw down those resources. | ||
| But based on the discussions I've had with the governor and the AG, we can start drawing down those resources as far as those looking for public safety threats being released and doing it in jail with much less people. | ||
| So the drawdown is going to happen based on these agreements. | ||
| But the drawdown can happen even more if the hateful rhetoric and the impediment interference will stop. | ||
| So Board of Patrol, I was a Board of Patrol agent. | ||
| These men and women are patriots. | ||
| God bless them. | ||
| They're here to help us. | ||
| And the drawdown will come soon, depending on when this actually I see this in play. | ||
| But the agreements have alone is going to cause a significant drawdown. | ||
| That was Tom Homan. | ||
| You can watch the full press conference on our website, c-span.org. | ||
| Previous caller mentioned boycotts, and this is an article from Axios that says nationwide boycott targeting ICE planned for Friday, which is today. | ||
| It says activists nationwide, including Chicago, are calling for no work, no school, and no shopping on Friday to protest ICE aggressive enforcement. | ||
| Josie in New York, Line for Democrats. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, Mimi. | |
| I find this whole thing, for lack of a better word, terrifying. | ||
| I voted Republican before, I voted Democrat. | ||
| I'm listed Democrat. | ||
| I love police officers. | ||
| They're usually good, decent people, and everybody that serves our country. | ||
| But this is getting crazy because now it's scary. | ||
| It looks like, to me, it looks like those kind of countries where, like, Cali took over Cuba and just, it's scary. | ||
| It's very scary. | ||
| I'm like at the point when I'm a senior citizen. | ||
| I don't even want to go outside because it's like, what the heck? | ||
| Are they going to card me and ask me if I'm an American citizen? | ||
| But I do agree on the closed borders coming in here the legal way, like my immigrant grandmother and grandfather did from Sicily. | ||
| I do agree on that. | ||
| I do agree on closed borders. | ||
| But how are you going to round up everybody that's in here? | ||
| I'm sure there's millions and millions of illegal immigrants in here. | ||
| What are they going to do? | ||
| Go to every state and every town and have chaos. | ||
| I just think it's like it seems more like a monarchy than it does a democracy. | ||
| And I just wish it would just go back not to where there's all these crazy immigrants and criminals coming in, but I just wish we would collapse a little bit of normalcy. | ||
| And he also speaks about prices going down and everything. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| The economy, nothing is going down. | ||
| All he talks about is gas prices. | ||
| Not everybody has a car. | ||
| I mean, I don't. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure most people do. | ||
| Gas prices going down, electric going down, and then closing down the government. | ||
| Always closing down the government, closing down the government. | ||
| Who's it affecting? | ||
| It's not affecting the multi-billionaires. | ||
| It's not affecting them. | ||
| It's affecting mostly the middle class. | ||
| And the poor. | ||
| It's just terrible. | ||
| I just wish we could have some peace. | ||
| That's all I wish for. | ||
| Peace. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And on the Republican line in Titus, Alabama, Bill, you're on the air. | ||
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Hi, how are you doing? | |
| I just want to talk about. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I just wanted to speak about the immigration issue. | ||
| My problem is I worked at a candy company. | ||
| And most looks like we lost Bill. | ||
| You there, Bill? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Okay. | ||
| You were saying you worked at a candy company. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And I watched visas take place. | ||
| I understand how they work. | ||
| I know how they worked. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| That candy company got 75 visas every year. | ||
| And on those 75 visas, they came, they wouldn't U.S. came from Colombia, Honduras, Mexico. | ||
| But when they had to leave, when their visa was up and they had to leave, the employer is not held responsible to make sure they get back. | ||
| And they left, and that's how I learned Louisiana is the number one producer of sweet potatoes. | ||
| Because when their visa was up and they had to go back, they took off. | ||
| And I'm like, where'd they go? | ||
| They picking sweet potatoes. | ||
| I didn't even know Louisiana grew sweet potatoes. | ||
| So you have to, we give out too many visas. | ||
| You can shut the southern border down, but it does nothing for the people. | ||
| They're still coming into this country, and people don't, nobody wants to talk about it. | ||
| They're still coming in. | ||
| All right, Bill. | ||
| It's Dr. Rob, Port Crane, New York, Independent. | ||
| Hi, Rob. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I keep hearing you argue with people that, oh, there's no proof that people are being paid to organize. | ||
| That's wrong, Lee. | ||
| You really should do your investigation. | ||
| I said there's no evidence. | ||
| I said there's no evidence, Rob. | ||
| I did not say it's not true. | ||
| I said there's no evidence of it. | ||
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There's plenty of evidence. | |
| I don't care how many times you keep saying it, Mimi. | ||
| James O'Keefe from Project Veritas has exposed it over and over again. | ||
| Other people have, too. | ||
| And by the way, Indivisible, this group that's organizing all these protests, they're run or financed by George Soros' Open Society Foundation. | ||
| Yes, and I did mention that organizers are paid. | ||
| So there is organization of protests. | ||
| I didn't say that there was no evidence of that. | ||
| There certainly is, and there's training and all kinds of things like that. | ||
| But paying people to stand on the street, there isn't evidence of that. | ||
| This is Anne in Maine, Line for Democrats. | ||
| Go ahead, Anne. | ||
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Hi, thank you, C-SPAN. | |
| And I feel really honored to follow the African-American history teacher who pointed out the situation of black people, you know, and protest. | ||
| And the caller who said that this chaos is really about making things difficult for the election. | ||
| And my fellow senior citizen who called about the terror. | ||
| And I would like to say, I'm an American Jew born in the shadow of the Holocaust. | ||
| And I have been a progressive my whole life. | ||
| And I have really pushed back about two easy identifications of current events with Nazis, with fascists. | ||
| But I have to say, looking at Stephen Miller and knowing about Adolf Eichmann and the logistics of deportation, there are just too many similarities to ignore. | ||
| And as far as Tom Holman goes, I think this is a change in style and not in substance. | ||
| And one thing that I heard, I listened to C-SPAN a lot, so I heard Christy Noam be asked whether they know how many dangerous, you know, criminal, undocumented people there are that they are needing to find and to deport. | ||
| And she couldn't answer that question, which tells me that this isn't really about specific, you know, finding specific dangerous people who really shouldn't be here. | ||
| This is about casting a very wide net and terrorizing not just immigrant communities such as the Somali communities here in Maine, but about terrorizing all Americans, that if you protest, you know, there are Americans who really consider it making America great again to bring out the German shepherds and the water hoses. | ||
| So Anne, I want to ask you, since you mentioned, you know, Eichmann and the tactics of the Nazis, that a lot of people will say mentioning that and drawing comparisons with the Nazis, who we all agree are, I mean, nobody's as bad as them, is inflaming the situation and that that's the cause of all these protests and violence and response that ICE is having. | ||
| What do you think of that? | ||
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Well, I don't think that's true. | |
| I think there's historical context and we can even go back and see how Hitler built on American racist theories. | ||
| So there is a deep context and a lot of history and I don't think, you know, even as a Jew, I'm not going to call the Nazis the worst of the worst because in human history, there have been many bad actors and many atrocities. | ||
| And so, in my lifetime, and who I am, the Nazis are a good comparison in terms of how they emptied German law of justice so that they could serve the agenda of the Nazi regime, which we have seen that with our Supreme Court undoing a lot of civil rights protections. | ||
| And we have seen how important the appointment of judges are. | ||
| And we're seeing amazingly, you know, even Federalist Society judges and Trump appointees standing up to this move to undermine our judiciary. | ||
| And in terms of the logistics of deportations, in the terms of pointing fingers at neighbors and saying, you're not really entitled to the rights. | ||
| I mean, that's what the Nazis did. | ||
| They said, oh, you know, these Jewish citizens, they don't have the same rights as Aryan citizens. | ||
| All right, and Ann did mention Stephen Miller. | ||
| This is Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| He's the minority leader in the House, and he also mentioned him. | ||
| Here he is. | ||
| I did reiterate in my conversation with Speaker Johnson that we intend to proceed with impeachment proceedings if Christy Noam is not fired. | ||
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| Christy Noam is a complete and total embarrassment. | ||
| She's a disgrace. | ||
| And on top of all of that, she's presided over the cold-blooded killings of American citizens like Renee Nicole Good and Alex Predi. | ||
| Unacceptable. | ||
| She should have never been confirmed. | ||
| Shame on every Republican in the Senate who put this wildly unqualified person into a position of significance, the Department of Homeland Security, so she could unleash brutalization on everyday Americans, American citizens, and law-abiding immigrant families. | ||
| It's disgraceful. | ||
| She's got to go. | ||
| We are dead serious. | ||
| She needs to be put on ice permanently. | ||
| She's got to go. | ||
| And by the way, she's not the only one. | ||
| Stephen Miller is the architect of Ration policies. | ||
| He's a stone-cold liar. | ||
| He's a bigot. | ||
| He's a hateful individual. | ||
| He's a malignant, unelected interloper. | ||
| He needs to go as well. | ||
| Why does Donald Trump, if he truly is trying to change direction, have these people around? | ||
| So when we evaluate the administration's intentions, we're not interested in a change in tone. | ||
| We're interested in a change in behavior on the ground in American communities across the country and as it relates to the people who are around Donald Trump. | ||
| Wonder what you think of that. | ||
| We're taking your calls this first segment of the program. | ||
| Numbers are on your screen. | ||
| David is calling us on the Republican line in Texas. | ||
| Hi, David. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I hope you're having a good day. | ||
| I have a few things. | ||
| Everybody keeps talking about Secretary Noam. | ||
| Well, she painted this fence down here black, you know, so they couldn't climb it during the day. | ||
| Well, I live in South Texas. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That fence gets cool at night, and I can climb it. | ||
| Item one, item two, all of these politicians are blaming each other. | ||
| They're all at fault. | ||
| And I don't know how many years back one of our presidents ran and said, I'll fix immigration laws. | ||
| None of them have. | ||
| It's probably been 30 years they've known that our immigration laws are not worth a darn. | ||
| They're not worth the paper working on, but none of them want to change them. | ||
| That's item two. | ||
| Item three, these politicians keep saying they're lowering gas prices. | ||
| Well, gas prices are predicated on the cost of oil. | ||
| The cost of oil is determined by OPEC. | ||
| The United States is not a member of OPEC. | ||
| How do these individuals actually do anything about the price of gas? | ||
| David. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Getting back to immigration, what do you want to see changed in immigration laws? | ||
| What would you recommend? | ||
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I would recommend that the empty seats that are in the judges, immigration judges, be filled. | |
| I have no idea how many are vacant, but it's several and has been for several years. | ||
| I would like to see their laws rewritten, write them comprehensive. | ||
| Right now, if an immigrant comes in the United States, he's here for about two years that he can't even get a job unless he has a work visa because he hasn't been vetted. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| What are they supposed to do during these two years to feed themselves? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| David, isn't it six months that they can apply for a work permit if they come? | ||
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But it could take another 18 months for that to be approved. | |
| Yeah, I don't know how long it happened. | ||
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It happened in six months, but it could happen in two years. | |
| All right. | ||
| Glenn, Detroit, Michigan, Democrat, you're on the air, Glenn. | ||
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Good morning, Mimi. | |
| Yes, as far as ICE, I don't think you need reform. | ||
| I think you need for them to follow the law, enforce the law on them, because, you know, you have to take those masks off. | ||
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You've got to treat people with respect. | |
| And I don't think you'll have all this chaos that you have. | ||
| Yeah, if they're illegal, then you have to do what you have to do. | ||
| But you don't go in there like a bull in the china shop. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you, Mimi, I am a Democrat. | ||
| But I welcome back my true Republican friends because I disagree with them 75% of the time. | ||
| But they believe in fiscal responsibility. | ||
| And they would have never passed this big, beautiful blunder of a bill. | ||
| Only these Trumpites who don't have a, they don't believe in nothing but what this president says. | ||
| And I think true Republicans, they will band together with Democrats and Republicans and liberals and impeach this president. | ||
| Even I used to find on the Tea Party, but at least the Tea Party believed in the Constitution. | ||
| These Trump ice don't believe in nothing but what Donald Trump says. | ||
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All right, well that's what. | |
| Let's talk to Chris on the Republican line in Palm Harbor, Florida. | ||
| Go ahead, Chris. | ||
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Hey, Nimi, you need to stop interjecting yourself and spreading this. | |
| Yeah, hey, good morning. | ||
| So you spoke of the legal aspect of these illegal aliens coming through the border and then once inside seeking asylum. | ||
| So you misspoke. | ||
| And the reason why I'm going to tell you that is because the border by Majorkis, he directed his agents not to enforce An actual secure border, actual sovereignty. | ||
| So now you were right when you said Biden allowed them to come through when he made his policy for asylum. | ||
| But their initial entry was they entered illegally. | ||
| And then they had advocacy groups within the country helping move them around. | ||
| They went to cities like New York, Newark. | ||
| I'm actually in New Jersey. | ||
| And I've seen it. | ||
| So, Derek, let's go back to the border. | ||
| So I can understand what you're saying. | ||
| What did I say that I misspoke? | ||
| So American law states that if you come to the United States, if you get into the United States, you can claim asylum. | ||
| That's still the case. | ||
| So under the Biden administration, the policy was: once you apply for asylum, so you've presented yourself at a port of entry and you say, I'd like to apply for asylum, and here's why. | ||
| And there's kind of this initial, you know, look. | ||
| What the Biden administration did was parole them into the country, which means, okay, while we're going through this process, which could take years, you can stay in the country. | ||
| So that was called humanitarian parole. | ||
| On the right, people are saying that that was way too many people. | ||
| There's too many people that have come in. | ||
| There's too many people that have been paroled into this country. | ||
| When President Trump took office, he revoked that policy, which means those people who had humanitarian parole no longer were considered legal in this country. | ||
| And they were told: look, you're now an illegal and you are subject to deportation. | ||
| What do you say, Derek? | ||
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You're still wrong because they entered as illegal aliens without verification to begin with. | |
| Advocacy groups took them throughout the country and then they applied for what you're talking about now. | ||
| Okay, so they said, hold on. | ||
| So there are people that are flat out illegal in this country, which means they came into the country, they made a run for it. | ||
| They're considered the gotaways. | ||
| There's people that overstayed visas. | ||
| They might have had a student visa or a visitor visa and they overstayed. | ||
| They're illegal and they're subject to deportation. | ||
| The people that have applied for asylum, though, at the border, they're considered documented. | ||
| They are now illegal. | ||
| But at the time, they were not. | ||
| During the Biden administration, they were not considered illegals. | ||
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What I'm telling you is that's not what I'm talking about. | |
| I understand what you're talking about. | ||
| Those who entered at the border, seek the asylum, got a CBP app, and boom, they traveled the country with the help of adversity. | ||
| I'm talking about the folks that snuck in, suck out, sought out the advocacy groups, went to cities like Chicago, Newark, San Antonio, Los Angeles, Denver, Minneapolis. | ||
| Then they did that through that. | ||
| But they skirted the system to begin with. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| I understand. | ||
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And I'm done with that. | |
| I understand. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| My last thought is: the people that are calling in talking about the conduct of ICE and CBP, okay? | ||
| There are federal immigration laws on the books. | ||
| So they're going out there to enforce them. | ||
| So the best example is: if my child acts a fool, It's my first duty as a father or as a leader to put him in check. | ||
| So, what's happening is around the country, particularly in Minneapolis, which had started with Governor Waltz and the mayor, Jacob Fry, and the chief of police, O'Hare, out there, who's a Jersey guy, he should know better. | ||
| Anyway, that chain of command failed. | ||
| They should have supported what ICE and CB. | ||
| First of all, CBP would not be within the jurisdictions, juridic, juridist of Minneapolis to begin with. | ||
| Had the mayor, Mayor Fry, and the governor cooperated with ICE to get the illegal aliens and the criminals, particularly, then you wouldn't need the manpower or CBP to come behind. | ||
| You understand what I'm saying? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| And I want to show you this, Derek, on Axios. | ||
| It says why Trump's Borders Are Wants an ICE deal with Minnesota jails. | ||
| So it says the Trump administration official Tom Holman took the podium yesterday to propose a deal. | ||
| If Minnesota's jails cooperate with ICE, federal agents can start going home. | ||
| With congressional Minnesota's jails, coordination with immigration enforcement may not be easy. | ||
| Okay, so here's how it explains. | ||
| Minnesota's prisons, these are state prisons, have an easier time than county-run jails handing immigration suspects over to ICE for two key reasons. | ||
| Prison release dates are set long in advance, so it's easy to tell ICE when to show up. | ||
| Minnesota jails, these are local, churn through 69,000 bookings a year, and some inmates walk free within hours. | ||
| It says under Minnesota law, jails can't hold a person longer than they otherwise would solely because of an ICE detainer, which doesn't have the force of a judicial warrant or a court order. | ||
| Certain counties have successfully sued for failing to comply. | ||
| It says jails in the state's 87 counties each handle ICE holds differently with policies often shaped by the county's political leanings. | ||
| You could read that at Axios. | ||
| Philip in Springfield, Massachusetts, Democrat, you're on the air. | ||
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Hi, thanks for having me on. | |
| It's been a while since I've talked to you, 30 days or more. | ||
| So I just like to bring up the issue that people should just obey the laws and let ICE do their job and don't, you can protest, but it's out of hand. | ||
| It gets out of hand, and they need to stop that. | ||
| You'd want to protest with your signs or whatever, but if you listen to Tom Holman, and he gave out a good speech yesterday, that if you just follow the law, things wouldn't be getting happening for the murders and stuff. | ||
| And another thing I like to say that I just saw on YouTube that the president is proposing a $2,000 stimulus check for each of everybody for direct deposit. | ||
| And I hope they could do that. | ||
| And the well, I just watch people every day, and I just want to say thank you for the information and everything. | ||
| And God bless the USA and the world. | ||
| And we need more people to help. | ||
| Because if the government shuts down again, it's going to delay the SNAP benefits. | ||
| And that'll be a disaster for the people too. | ||
| All right, Philip. | ||
| And the president has nominated a new chairman of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| That is Kevin Warsh. | ||
| This is CNBC with the news. | ||
| Trump nominates Kevin Warsh for Federal Reserve Chair to succeed Jerome Powell. | ||
| That Jerome Powell's term ends in May. | ||
| And from our C-SPAN archives, we have Kevin Warsh speaking about the Federal Reserve's independence at an event hosted by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation. | ||
| This is from last May. | ||
| I believe in the operational independence and the conduct of monetary policy as a political economy matter. | ||
| I think the economy is better off. | ||
| If the world perceives, markets perceive, members of Congress perceive. | ||
| You got central banks that are calling it the best they see it. | ||
| Being a central banker is not a prize for the perfect. | ||
| These are hard jobs, lots of uncertainty. | ||
| The data is a mess. | ||
| But the world's better off if they think they're doing their level best to call balls and strikes. | ||
| But the operational conduct of monetary policy doesn't mean that the Fed shouldn't be criticized. | ||
| Central bankers should not be pampered princes. | ||
| If Chairman Hill and his colleagues think that we're doing a terrible job at the central bank, they should be able to call it out. | ||
| Same thing with the president. | ||
| As a matter of fact, I'd rather the president call out his consternation with the central bank to the world than do what used to happen in generations past. | ||
| I don't mean to be invoking President Reagan again, but being summoned to the Oval Office for a little quiet to-do about what you're doing and right. | ||
| Central banks were created so that politicians would have someone to blame for this. | ||
| None of this is new. | ||
| I read breathlessly in the newspapers how mean these politicians are to the central bank. | ||
| Well, grow up, be tough. | ||
| And here's the most important thing: what's the secret to central bank independence hitting its objectives, doing its job? | ||
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| And you can go through our archives at c-span.org if you'd like to find out more and see other appearances by Kevin Warsh for the nominee for the Fed chair. | ||
| Let's talk, let's go to Minneapolis, Minnesota Republican line. | ||
| Richard, you're on the air. | ||
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| Yes, good morning. | ||
| You know, I got a few things to say here. | ||